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Garth
05-09-2006, 08:13 AM
Ok, I mentioned in another thread how I can't tell that much of a difference using a progressive scan dvd player on my new LCD HD tv. Is it possible that a better dvd player would give me a noticeably better picture. Or am I just not as observant as other people? I have a feeling the player I have is kind of dated, even though I am using component cables. Thoughts? I guess I just expected a HUGE difference because everyone talks about how much better dvds look with progressive scan, and I am just not seeing it.

Natty P
05-09-2006, 08:15 AM
I don't see a difference with progressive scan.

A problem might be is that DVDs tend to look like shit compared to an HD broadcast, so you've become a snob.


Don't worry, I'm one too.

Poor people with shitty analog tvs SUCK!!!

Garth
05-09-2006, 08:16 AM
I don't see a difference with progressive scan.

A problem might be is that DVDs tend to look like shit compared to an HD broadcast, so you've become a snob.


Don't worry, I'm one too.

Poor people with shitty analog tvs SUCK!!!

Perhaps that is it...and just to clarify I am poor, lol, just no money management skills.

Natty P
05-09-2006, 08:19 AM
Perhaps that is it...and just to clarify I am poor, lol, just no money management skills.



I'm poor too.


I should have said " eff you other poor people who are more frugal than me and haven't gotta a decent tv already!!! "

Nick Ignacio
05-09-2006, 08:20 AM
Ok, I mentioned in another thread how I can't tell that much of a difference using a progressive scan dvd player on my new LCD HD tv. Is it possible that a better dvd player would give me a noticeably better picture. Or am I just not as observant as other people? I have a feeling the player I have is kind of dated, even though I am using component cables. Thoughts? I guess I just expected a HUGE difference because everyone talks about how much better dvds look with progressive scan, and I am just not seeing it.

I thought the point of progressive scan was so it allowed it to fit "properly" on an HD tv. I used to have a non-progressive scan DVD on my hd tv, and it didn't use up the whole screen.
But then I got a new player with progressive scan, enabled it, and now it fits the whole screen, wide screen (of course, letter boxed).
And yes, certain DVD players do provide better picture quality over others.

Caska
05-09-2006, 08:24 AM
There is not a whole lot of difference in quailty. Your TV will also convert Interlaced to progressive and if the chip in your tv is better than the chip in your DVD player you wont notice the difference also don't be fooled by upscaling DVD players they don't do much either.

Caska
05-09-2006, 08:27 AM
I thought the point of progressive scan was so it allowed it to fit "properly" on an HD tv. I used to have a non-progressive scan DVD on my hd tv, and it didn't use up the whole screen.
But then I got a new player with progressive scan, enabled it, and now it fits the whole screen, wide screen (of course, letter boxed).
And yes, certain DVD players do provide better picture quality over others.

No a progressive scan DVD will not effect the aspect ratio of the movie, your old DVD player might of been setup with the wrong tv aspect ratio that is why it didn't full the full screen.

DrMachine
05-09-2006, 08:29 AM
No a progressive scan DVD will not effect the aspect ratio of the movie, your old DVD player might of been setup with the wrong tv aspect ratio that is why it didn't full the full screen.

I suspect his TV is just set to "zoom" and fills up the entire screen

Nick Ignacio
05-09-2006, 08:33 AM
No a progressive scan DVD will not effect the aspect ratio of the movie, your old DVD player might of been setup with the wrong tv aspect ratio that is why it didn't full the full screen.

Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, that's what I did to get the full screen.
Uh so... what does progressive scan do?

Nick Ignacio
05-09-2006, 08:34 AM
I suspect his TV is just set to "zoom" and fills up the entire screen

Not set to zoom.
Now that you can tell the noticeable difference in picture quality when it's zoomed.

DrMachine
05-09-2006, 08:37 AM
Not set to zoom.
Now that you can tell the noticeable difference in picture quality when it's zoomed.

what?

I say zoomed, because even with widescreen setup on the DVD player a widescreen HD TV will not fill up the entire screen with the image

Nick Ignacio
05-09-2006, 08:41 AM
what?

I say zoomed, because even with widescreen setup on the DVD player a widescreen HD TV will not fill up the entire screen with the image

right, that's why I said it was letterboxed.
sorry for the misunderstanding.

Caska
05-09-2006, 08:43 AM
Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, that's what I did to get the full screen.
Uh so... what does progressive scan do?

Taken from a Panasonic website

The Benefits of Progressive Vs. Interlaced Scanning
Standard DVD-Video players use interlaced scanning to produce a picture. Interlaced scanning combines two fields to generate a picture of 525 scan lines (480 of which are displayed). Your television projects an interlaced image by first scanning the 240 odd-numbered lines of one field (in 1/60th of a second), followed by the 240 even-numbered lines of the other field (in 1/60th of a second). So, it takes two fields to build one frame of video.

Our progressive scan DVD players have a progressive video processor, which enables all 525 lines (480 of which are displayed) to be scanned at the exact same time; two interlaced fields are combined into one progressive frame. A television with 480P component inputs can completely scan the entire image in 1/60th of a second. The result is a smoother and sharper picture with high resolution and minimal motion artifacts.

Gavin
05-09-2006, 08:56 AM
My parents bought one and I couldn't tell the difference in quality. The only thing I could tell is that it didn't like playing my Batman:TAS DVD's.