Lost ARG begins?

[LordKinbote]

http://www.thehansofoundation.org

Appears it's on like Donkey Kong. Check out the newsletter section.

[YouStayClassy]

I can't seem to sign up for the newsletter, is it working for you?

EDIT>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nevermind, just got it to go.

[LordKinbote]

There's no newsletter to sign up for. You get a strange message from "Persephone" and after asking for a password, it tells you to call the number in the tv advertisement.

Which I guess we'll see tomorrow during Lost.

[YouStayClassy]

There's no newsletter to sign up for. You get a strange message from "Persephone" and after asking for a password, it tells you to call the number in the tv advertisement.

Which I guess we'll see tomorrow during Lost.

Yeah, I just got that. This site doesn't seem to like my computer very much, after I typed a name it just sat there forever before finally loading the Persephone stuff.

[GelfXIII]

My initials are ARG.

This thread gave me the chills.

[YouStayClassy]

If this thing is half as addictive as I Love Bees, I'm in for one long summer.

[Raphael J]

Cool. Can't sign up for the newsletter though. It just sends you to an interactive portion that I couldn't end up figuring out.

[LordKinbote]

PASSWORD: breaking strain

Get ready for coolness. Talk to Joop.

[YouStayClassy]

PASSWORD: breaking strain

Get ready for coolness. Talk to Joop.

Whoa. That was kinda creepy.

[Brian Reed]

I remember when I was a kid and my friends and I would ride our bikes all over the neighborhood every afternoon. There was a cornfield near my house. The kids in the neighborhood would always dig tunnels through the corn, knocking down stalks to create hallways and rooms, creating a strange sort of corn-based club house. The real trick to it was, you had to be careful getting into the field, so as to not disturb the outter wall of corn. If the guys who owned the field saw the outer wall was screwed, they'd call the cops and we'd all have to race off on our bikes for fear of getting arrested for trespassing.

[Briomega]

Interesting, though the sound effects are awful.

[Jim.]

This is intense. I can't wait!

[Briomega]

The document is interesting. I still think they aren't really revealing anything of importance. Just some fun info about Hanso.

[GelfXIII]

Does Hugh Macintyre look alot like Desmond to anyone else?

[Brian Reed]

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[Briomega]

Does Hugh Macintyre look alot like Desmond to anyone else?

Not really.

[MattJohnson]

That was Carlton Cuse doing the voiceover about the Hanso Foundation. If you listen to the podcast, you should recognize the voice.

[Jastermereel]

Forget about the Newsletter.Try using that password at Joop's Corner. (It appears that password may not be necessary there.)

Anyone think we might have a new map here?




Global Welfare Consortium 19 September, 2005
Rue Grande 1623
1221 Geneva 27
Switzerland

To: Dr. Roderick Johnson, M.D., Ph.D., Clinical Director, Centers for Diesease Control

From: GWC Executive Committee
RE: Violation of Ethical Guidelines / The Hanso Life-Exention Project

CC: Mr. Peter Thompson Vice President, General Counsel, The Hanso FOundation; Hugh McIntyre, Vice President and Communications Director, The Hanso Foundation

Dr. Johnson:

We have recieved word of an unfortunate and most alarming
issue in the past days concerning research operations by The Hanso Foundation in the sub-Saharan region of Africa.Sadly, we have exhausted our mandate as a watchdog organization and must petition you for a formal investigation.

It has come to our attention that a new strain of meningococcal disease has been reported in the costal villages of the United Republic of Tanzania. This strain is particularly alarming in that it has successfully breached the simian/homo sapiens barrier.

As the enclosed documentation and correspondence demonstrate, we have repeatedly asked the Executive Board of The Hanso Foundation for assistance in determining the possible correlation between the outbreak of this transgenic disease and the research being conducted on primates in their Experimental Station in Zanzibar. As our requests have been met with utter and complete disregard, we feel we have no other choice than to demand your immeditate intervention.

As The Hanso Foundation is using primates to research gene therapies intended for human use, the correlation should be obvious.

Considering the alarming nature of thie outbreak and the mounting death toll it is imperative that The Hanso Foundation immediately open the doors of their Experimental Station for inspection and, should a link be found between their work and this disease, desist their activities immediately.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. Lives are at stake.


Monsieur Jacque Maillot
Director General, GWC Executive Committee

Quarantine anyone?

[LordKinbote]

Did you click on the signature of that letter? You get another letter.

And, no, the password is not necessary. "I love you Joop" works just fine.

[Jastermereel]

Did you click on the signature of that letter? You get another letter.

And, no, the password is not necessary. "I love you Joop" works just fine.
Wow. Totally missed that. ! I'll type it up in a few minutes......that interface is damned annoying for that purpose.

Letter 2


Global Welfare Consortium 25 September, 2005
Rue Grande 1623
1221 Geneva 27
Switzerland

To: Dr. Roderick Johnson, M.D., Ph.D., Clinical Director, Centers for Diesease Control

From: GWC Executive Committee
RE: The Hanso Life-Exention Project

Dr. Johnson:

Please consider this a formal apology for the heated and alarmist tone of our previous correspondence as well as a formal request for the withdrawl of former Director General Jacque Maillot's request for an intervention into the affairs of The Hanso Foundation.

In the time since Monsieur Maillot's letter, GWC's inspection team has been welcomed with open arms into The Hanso Foundation's Experimental Station in Zanzibar. Our thorough examination of the Station has made it clear that the benign, non-invasive research being conducted there could not have possibly resulted in the outbreak of a transgenic virus.

Because we appriciate the CDC's willingness to intervene when lives are at stake, the last thing we want is to abuse our close relationship with your organization -- or sound alarms before the need is absolutely clear. Once again, please accept our apologies, and our appriciation of your diligent responce to our correspondence.

Mr. Peter Thompson, Acting Director General
Global Health Consortium

NOTE: If you scroll to the top and down again (or something like that) the signature is circled in red. Clicking on it results in a female voice saying "The Hanso Foundation. setting world speed records for subverting authority." as it is typed up on the screen in red text. Clicking that takes you back to Joop's Corner.

[LordKinbote]

Wow. Totally missed that. ! I'll type it up in a few minutes......that interface is damned annoying for that purpose.

Tell me about it.

Also, I've heard recordings from the number that we'll get tomorrow. You get to hear different people's messages and stuff.

Right now, only the British phone number has been released.

[Flonk]

If this thing is half as addictive as I Love Bees, I'm in for one long summer.

What's I Love Bees?

[Briomega]

What's I Love Bees?

Was a ARG for Halo 2. Had a website where this girl was getting messages from a AI involved in the war taking place in the game. Ended where people were supposed to show up at certain public phones at a specific time where they got recordings also dealing with that.

[Jastermereel]

What's I Love Bees?
Edit: Beaten to it.

[YouStayClassy]

What's I Love Bees?

It was a website based promotion for Halo 2, in the same vein as this LOST one. It was based off a girl's blog, and got so bizarre and trippy as the weeks went on. I spent hours upon hours wading through it, and loved every second.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_love_bees

[Flonk]

Cool.

I loved Majestic when it was out a few years ago. I'd play thins, but I watch Lost on DVD, I'm not up to date. :(

[Briomega]

Cool.

I loved Majestic when it was out a few years ago. I'd play thins, but I watch Lost on DVD, I'm not up to date. :(

Shouldn't matter whether you are up to date or not. It's doubtful anything of any real importance will be revealed through this. Just a fun game to play while waiting for new episodes, really.

[LordKinbote]

Cool.

I loved Majestic when it was out a few years ago. I'd play thins, but I watch Lost on DVD, I'm not up to date. :(

Well guess what? Neither are the Brits, but the game started for them *first*.

I don't think you have to be up to date.

[Jastermereel]

Shouldn't matter whether you are up to date or not. It's doubtful anything of any real importance will be revealed through this. Just a fun game to play while waiting for new episodes, really.
Yes and no. While it may not turn up a whole lot, we forget how much has happened in the last season. The even site's name is meaningless to someone before season 2.

[LordKinbote]

Yes and no. While it may not turn up a whole lot, we forget how much has happened in the last season. The even site's name is meaningless to someone before season 2.

What???? But there are people on the board who say *nothing* has happened this season!

Is everything I know a lie?

[Jastermereel]

What???? But there are people on the board who say *nothing* has happened this season!

Is everything I know a lie?
Damn right! Everything since the crash has been filler keeping us from finding out the truth!

[ThisSpaceForRent]

Domain ID: D106939446-LROR
Domain Name:THEHANSOFOUNDATION.ORG
Registrant Email:mexicanlunch@hotmail.com
Admin Email:info@thehansofoundation.org


E-mailed those addresses....didn't bounce, but no response yet.

[Brian Reed]

E-mailed those addresses....didn't bounce, but no response yet.

Did the same. I asked them both why, (show spoiler)

if Locke is such a smart guy, he didn't just climb out through the air vent himself instead of letting Prisoner Boy free.

[Nick_Ardill]

There should be a sticky of this thread as the board tries to solve the game.
God I hope theres a big reveal at the end of it.

[MattJohnson]

Did the same. I asked them both why, (show spoiler)

if Locke is such a smart guy, he didn't just climb out through the air vent himself instead of letting Prisoner Boy free.

Nevermind, I see what you mean.

[Nick_Ardill]

Any ideas on what to type in the "Mental Health Appeals" section?

[Criden]

Ordained, it's kind of doubtful.

And these letters were on the original Hanso site last November....

[The Afroman]

“Yes but what does it all mean Basil?”
http://www.hollywood-costumes.com/austinpowers/austin-headb.jpg

[LordKinbote]

So the American number is 1-877-HANSORG (1-877-426-7674). Completely swamped right now.

[Nick_Borelli]

I can't get into the number either but here is how to make it all work.

Go to http://www.thehansofoundation.org/
Click on Newsletter
Type in your name
Type y
Type breaking strain

It will tell you nothing is ready yet and come back later.
Anyone find anything else?

[Briomega]

I can't get into the number either but here is how to make it all work.

Go to http://www.thehansofoundation.org/
Click on Newsletter
Type in your name
Type y
Type breaking strain

It will tell you nothing is ready yet and come back later.
Anyone find anything else?

Go to the Joop section and send him a message.

[LordKinbote]

I can't get into the number either but here is how to make it all work.

Go to http://www.thehansofoundation.org/
Click on Newsletter
Type in your name
Type y
Type breaking strain

It will tell you nothing is ready yet and come back later.
Anyone find anything else?

As said earlier, after that, go talk to Joop. Say anything. You'll be taken to a weird screen with microbes. Connect the highlighted microbes by clicking on both. You'll be taken to a letter. Click on the signature and you'll be taken to another letter. Click on the highlighted name and a woman (Persephone?) will talk. You'll then end up back on the Hanso site.

On top of that, go to "Active Projects" and check out the WWPDP tab. On the top, go to "World Map". Instead of clicking on one of the dots, click roughly where the Bermuda Triangle is. The map will relocate to that area and as you pass your mouse over it, strange, unreadable text pops up.

[Briomega]

As said earlier, after that, go talk to Joop. Say anything. You'll be taken to a weird screen with microbes. Connect the highlighted microbes by clicking on both. You'll be taken to a letter. Click on the signature and you'll be taken to another letter. Click on the highlighted name and a woman (Persephone?) will talk. You'll then end up back on the Hanso site.

On top of that, go to "Active Projects" and check out the WWPDP tab. On the top, go to "World Map". Instead of clicking on one of the dots, click roughly where the Bermuda Triangle is. The map will relocate to that area and as you pass your mouse over it, strange, unreadable text pops up.

The only things I haven't been able to figure out is on the Mental health one, it says Inquire and asks you to tell about yourself but the connection times out. Can't figure out what to type there.

The other thing is the login at the bottom right. Tried a bunch of names but nothing.

[CARSON]

got through o the phone number. The first time asked me for an extension and then gave me random info.
the next time I called I was given the number 5802 for customer service.

[Jew Mafia]

got through o the phone number. The first time asked me for an extension and then gave me random info.
the next time I called I was given the number 5802 for customer service.
general info doesnt do anything excoet talk in a foreign language, then it mentions geronimo jackson and martin carter, then it hangs up on you.

[Lab-Rat]

go to "Active Projects" and check out the WWPDP tab. On the top, go to "World Map". Instead of clicking on one of the dots, click roughly where the Bermuda Triangle is. The map will relocate to that area and as you pass your mouse over it, strange, unreadable text pops up.

http://users.ev1.net/~sitton/hansoworldmaptext.jpg

Now I did darken the image in photoshop to make the text read better, but other than that...didn't do anything to this picture. As you can see...it's all giberish.


Also...after you type the message to joop in joop's corner, go through get the 2 letter document things...and the ngo back to joop's corner...right click on the live webcam picture and click print. You get this image:

http://users.ev1.net/~sitton/hansojoopscorner.jpg

That picture is creepy.



now note...I didn't actually find this stuff out...I just went and took screenshots of this stuff and figured I'd share.

[Briomega]

Found something interesting. Amazon has a listing for Bad Twin (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401302769/sr=8-1/qid=1146722865/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-9155812-7904860?%5Fencoding=UTF8), the book that's coming out. On the page is this bit:


Author Gary Troup delivered the manuscript for his hotly anticipated thriller, Bad Twin, just days before he boarded doomed Oceanic Flight 815. Watch the recently uncovered video clip of Gary Troup on Book Talk interviewed by Laird Granger talking about the controversy surrounding his mysteriously out-of-print first book, The Valenzetti Equation, and his new novel, Bad Twin.

Click on the video clip and there's a piece that's badly acted but mentions Alvar Hanso.

[Lab-Rat]

Ok...that small clip was kinda interesting....man...they make me want to go get that book and read it. Though, I'm almost posative it will reveal absolutly nothing about the show.

[Mike Haseloff]

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showpost.php?p=1647848&postcount=10

Post regarding number in Australia.

[PoWerSurge]

[QUOTE=Lab-Rat]

http://users.ev1.net/~sitton/hansoworldmaptext.jpg

Now I did darken the image in photoshop to make the text read better, but other than that...didn't do anything to this picture. As you can see...it's all giberish.


Are the letters embedded in a image or flash? Or are they actually in HTML where they can be copied?

[Lab-Rat]

[quote=Lab-Rat]

http://users.ev1.net/~sitton/hansoworldmaptext.jpg

Now I did darken the image in photoshop to make the text read better, but other than that...didn't do anything to this picture. As you can see...it's all giberish.


Are the letters embedded in a image or flash? Or are they actually in HTML where they can be copied?

It's embedded in the flash. couldn't copy the text. So I just zoomed in and did a print screen.used photoshop to lower the brightness to make the text read better.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Hey, that 13/9/19/19/9/14/7/15/18/7/114/19 thing is actually a code, if you haven't figured it out already....

[Jim.]

Hey, that 13/9/19/19/9/14/7/15/18/7/114/19 thing is actually a code, if you haven't figured it out already....
Missing Organ

[LordKinbote]

Missing Organ

Missing Organs, to be exact.

[Briomega]

Missing Organs, to be exact.

Yeah, good find. Can't figure a place to use it though. Tried using it in the "tell us something about yourself" place, but nothing.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Well, be in the ready for the long haul.

[Jim.]

Well, be in the ready for the long haul.
This should take us until Season 3 premiere. I'm ready.

[Smokinblues]

so is this the thread where we collect all the clues/info/theories from here on out?

[Jim.]

so is this the thread where we collect all the clues/info/theories from here on out?
unforums.com is a good place too, but you have to watch out for the loonies that are going to pop out of the woodwork on this one.

[Briomega]

so is this the thread where we collect all the clues/info/theories from here on out?

Probably be the easiest. Unless the name of the thread will throw people. Then maybe someone wants to make an "Official Lost ARG" thread and we can just move everything there?

[Briomega]

I don't recall seeing this before. Click on Executive Bios and then up in top right corner there's a link to the Board of Directors with more pics and links but it's password protected.

[LordKinbote]

I predict things will start moving today or tomorrow. They took three days to get the game to launch in UK, USA and Australia. Now that everyone's on the same page, the game can start.

[Briomega]

Okay I found another video clip, it's 1 of 9. On Barnes and Noble's listing for the book, Bad Twin (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&isbn=1401302769&itm=1). On the left hand side is a link to the clip. I'm guessing there's more on the other book sites.

[Jim.]

I don't recall seeing this before. Click on Executive Bios and then up in top right corner there's a link to the Board of Directors with more pics and links but it's password protected.
missing organs?

[Briomega]

missing organs?

Yeah, tried it. You need a username and password. It's possible that would work for the password but what's the login? Tried different variations but nothing yet.

[LordKinbote]

Yeah, tried it. You need a username and password. It's possible that would work for the password but what's the login? Tried different variations but nothing yet.

Which one had cancer?

[Briomega]

Which one had cancer?

Thompson. And he ends his phone message saying "Namaste" which is strange. Pretty sure I saw that word on the site somewhere too. Has some eastern meaning associated with Yoga.

[Smokinblues]

Thompson. And he ends his phone message saying "Namaste" which is strange. Pretty sure I saw that word on the site somewhere too. Has some eastern meaning associated with Yoga.

he's not the only one. the generic female voice says it too, in more than one spot.

[Smokinblues]

so hanso's option breaks in with something like

hotel...what have they done with him...

thomas is unavailable ofr three weeks.

hugh is unavailable for two weeks, refers "korean off shore project" inquiries to peter. couple of messages play, one referring to renaming remote viewing project, other about srilanka not being right.

legal counsel guy responds to threats with threats of legal action... all i could get

[Briomega]

he's not the only one. the generic female voice says it too, in more than one spot.

Hmm, must be connected to Dharma as well. See, this is why I hate these ARGs. You never know what is meaningful and important to the game and what's just related but not really important. :lol:

[Briomega]

so hanso's option breaks in with something like

hotel...what have they done with him...

thomas is unavailable ofr three weeks.

hugh is unavailable for two weeks, refers "korean off shore project" inquiries to peter. couple of messages play, one referring to renaming remote viewing project, other about srilanka not being right.

legal counsel guy responds to threats with threats of legal action... all i could get

Thompson also mentions one of the companies shown on the show. Widmore I think it was. The construction company name.

[Smokinblues]

Thompson also mentions one of the companies shown on the show. Widmore I think it was. The construction company name.

yeah. widmore and something else

[Smokinblues]

phone messages transcribed

http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Hanso_Phone_Line

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Namase. It's on the Dharma film, too.

[LordKinbote]

The scientist in the orientation video said "Namaste" too, right?

[Lab-Rat]

phone messages transcribed

http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Hanso_Phone_Line


nice find. They got alot of stuff on there that I wasn't aware about.

[Briomega]

Can anyone think of other book stores? Those videoclips all continue one into the other and there must be more. Found a link to the Border's one (http://e.bordersstores.com/a/hBEWXsZAQfEXsAedwLlAX2IBt.AVvW22RU/troupwmv) but I can't think of any other stores that might have more clips. There has to be a connection with this Valenzetti Equation that the "author" wrote about that is connected somehow to Hanso.

[Criden]

Namaste roughly translates to, "From my highest place to your highest place." We say it at the end of every Yoga class.

Widmore also makes pregnancy tests....

[Smokinblues]

Namaste roughly translates to, "From my highest place to your highest place." We say it at the end of every Yoga class.

Widmore also makes pregnancy tests....

widmore.com doesn't say construction company, says something about bio labs now.

[Briomega]

widmore.com doesn't say construction company, says something about bio labs now.

If that's the site I saw earlier I don't think that's affiliated. Think it's a fan site.

[Briomega]

Am I off my rocker or is Paik the name of Sun's father?

[The Afroman]

Am I off my rocker or is Paik the name of Sun's father?

See i have a theroy as well, the phone messages mention something about an off shore project in Koera..

[Briomega]

See i have a theroy as well, the phone messages mention something about an off shore project in Koera..

Yeah, the company is Paik Heavy Industries. It just hit me that that was the name the guy who was following Jin said in the airport.

[LordKinbote]

Monster.com is mentioned on the recordings. Sounds like just product placement...

Go to http://www.monster.com, go to the employer's section, try out their resume finder by typing "hanso", and check out the second of the three resumes returned.

The plot thickens.

I love how this game is using sites that we all take for granted.

[Mike Haseloff]

Monster.com is mentioned on the recordings. Sounds like just product placement...

Go to http://www.monster.com, go to the employer's section, try out their resume finder by typing "hanso", and check out the second of the three resumes returned.

The plot thickens.

I love how this game is using sites that we all take for granted.That's what I was talking about in my post in another thread.

[Briomega]

So, on the bios only Mittelwerk's picture has a quote:

"Science has laid bare the tools of change. It is the responsibility of a trusted few to shepherd humanity to a greater future."

Quite an interesting turn of phrase.

[LordKinbote]

That's what I was talking about in my post in another thread.

Well excuuuuse me for not checking all other Lost threads before posting something that's really only relevant to this one. Nyah.

[Mike Haseloff]

Well excuuuuse me for not checking all other Lost threads before posting something that's really only relevant to this one. Nyah.Well, I did link to it here.


But I was really asking someone if they knew what it was, so that was actually a complimentary post. :p

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Namaste roughly translates to, "From my highest place to your highest place." We say it at the end of every Yoga class.

Widmore also makes pregnancy tests....
And factories and hot air balloons!

[Shane W]

Sorry if missed, but Gary Troup is an anagram of "Purgatory"

[Briomega]

Sorry if missed, but Gary Troup is an anagram of "Purgatory"

Nice, missed that.

[LordKinbote]

You know, with the amount of artistic, writing, web and academic talent on this board, I bet the Bendis Board could make a pretty good ARG.

[Briomega]

Hehe this is interesting. Go here (http://www.soundsgood.com/ProductDetail.aspx?tabindex=0&tabname=productdetail&SB=Y&PI=507507) and click on the Hear a Sample link under the book pic. Gives a rundown on "Troup" but more interesting is who the copyright is given to.

[Briomega]

Okay, this shit's becoming an obsession. :lol: Looked at the "map" that Locke found that was reprinted in EW. There's a mention to "Valenzetti related research activity" (it's just immediately to the left of the I AM HERE writing), which is what Troup's other book was about: "The Valenzetti Equation", which is supposed to be a mathematical equation that predicts the Apocalypse.

I wonder if there's anything else on that map that might be useful in the game. Like Magnus Hanso, for example.

[LordKinbote]

Hehe this is interesting. Go here (http://www.soundsgood.com/ProductDetail.aspx?tabindex=0&tabname=productdetail&SB=Y&PI=507507) and click on the Hear a Sample link under the book pic. Gives a rundown on "Troup" but more interesting is who the copyright is given to.

Ha. Guess that dispels the Stephen King rumors.

[Jim.]

You know, with the amount of artistic, writing, web and academic talent on this board, I bet the Bendis Board could make a pretty good ARG.
You don't know the half of it.

[Lab-Rat]

Hehe this is interesting. Go here (http://www.soundsgood.com/ProductDetail.aspx?tabindex=0&tabname=productdetail&SB=Y&PI=507507) and click on the Hear a Sample link under the book pic. Gives a rundown on "Troup" but more interesting is who the copyright is given to.


I know I'm probably just oblivious to it...but who's James Patterson?

[Movie Maker]

I know I'm probably just oblivious to it...but who's James Patterson?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/103-1674859-0283005?search-alias=aps&keywords=James%20Patterson

[Smokinblues]

Sorry if missed, but Gary Troup is an anagram of "Purgatory"

which is still a possibility. Ana died on the island just after she couldn't bring herself to kill again, redeeming herself in a way. Shannon died just after getting over her issues. But Boone didn't seem that way, and the dude from Ed certainly didn't fit. Not sure Libby is dead yet. Probably forgetting something.

[Briomega]

If you go to the WWP/DP section and then click on Press Release, the word "Miracle" seems clickable, though nothing pops up at this point. Could be a clue or something will activate later.

[Briomega]

There's a new message on the frontpage. It's a .PDF talking about problems with the website and gives a new phone number and an email. I sent something to the email but the phone number's not toll free so I haven't called it.

Edit: There's a URL hidden in the .PDF: http://persephone.thehansofoundation.org/ Takes you to a page with a new code.

[Smokinblues]

106 98 111 32 117 98 115 32 114 115 110 102 32 102 118 32 102 118 101 71 32 49 32 108 110 90 32 116 117 98 46 83 69 71 32 103 110 32 111 118 32 116 98 73

[Smokinblues]

the phone number just says the mailbox is full. it does give you an option to page the number, but i didn't do that.

[LordKinbote]

106 98 111 32 117 98 115 32 114 115 110 102 32 102 118 32 102 118 101 71 32 49 32 108 110 90 32 116 117 98 46 83 69 71 32 103 110 32 111 118 32 116 98 73

It's obviously an ASCII based code, which gives you jbo ubs rsnf fv fveG 1 lnZ tub.SEG gn ov tbI...not that that's particularly helpful.

[Smokinblues]

first chapter of Bad Twin up at itunes and audible...I haven't confirmed this.

[Briomega]

It's obviously an ASCII based code, which gives you jbo ubs rsnf fv fveG 1 lnZ tub.SEG gn ov tbI...not that that's particularly helpful.

it looks like with the period in there maybe it's a webpage. you can sort of see .gov in there, so maybe removing letters?

[LordKinbote]

it looks like with the period in there maybe it's a webpage. you can sort of see .gov in there, so maybe removing letters?


Someone else got it. Rotate the whole thing 13 letters, switch a couple letters, read backward and you get Log in at THF.org May 1 This is safe for now

[Briomega]

Someone else got it. Rotate the whole thing 13 letters, switch a couple letters, read backward and you get Log in at THF.org May 1 This is safe for now

Found that, too. I sent an email to them about a lost password. :D

[Smokinblues]

thf.org has been registered since 1994 in it's current form. I think thf is just an abbreviation for the normal hanso website. the site at thf.org doesn't seem related at all.

[Briomega]

thf.org has been registered since 1994 in it's current form. I think thf is just an abbreviation for the normal hanso website. the site at thf.org doesn't seem related at all.

Yeah, looking through the whole site there's nothing that seems related other than the fact they do Health work in Zambia like Hanso.

[Briomega]

Heh wonder if ABC will get in trouble. That site's apparently been inundated because of this and is not happy at all about it. :lol:

Can't figure out what the message means. Tried a bunch of things including setting my clock for May 1 and nothing new pops up. The May 1 thing must means something though.

[LordKinbote]

Heh wonder if ABC will get in trouble. That site's apparently been inundated because of this and is not happy at all about it. :lol:

Can't figure out what the message means. Tried a bunch of things including setting my clock for May 1 and nothing new pops up. The May 1 thing must means something though.

Especially if, as some speculate, the 1 has to be rotated 13 times too and we have to wait until May 14.

[Shane W]

http://www.garytroup.net/

[Briomega]

Especially if, as some speculate, the 1 has to be rotated 13 times too and we have to wait until May 14.

That'd be nuts. The only thing on the site I could find that might be connected is the Joop thing. It says he's 105 which is of course 5/01. Maybe this was supposed to be pointing at the documents hidden there and we are just way too smart for them having already found it?

[LordKinbote]

That'd be nuts. The only thing on the site I could find that might be connected is the Joop thing. It says he's 105 which is of course 5/01. Maybe this was supposed to be pointing at the documents hidden there and we are just way too smart for them having already found it?

If that's the case, I'm going to stop playing. They GIVE you the number, you call, a voice GIVES you a password, and then you say anything to the monkey, connect the dots, and you get the documents.

If they don't think we're smarter than what is called for to get that far, this game is not for me.

So I don't believe that's the case.

[Briomega]

If that's the case, I'm going to stop playing. They GIVE you the number, you call, a voice GIVES you a password, and then you say anything to the monkey, connect the dots, and you get the documents.

If they don't think we're smarter than what is called for to get that far, this game is not for me.

So I don't believe that's the case.

Yeah, hope not. It's just the only connection I could find and nobody else seems to be able to find anything new. There's still a lot of stuff on the site that's just not activated yet, so who knows.

[LordKinbote]

Yeah, hope not. It's just the only connection I could find and nobody else seems to be able to find anything new. There's still a lot of stuff on the site that's just not activated yet, so who knows.

All ARGS need to find a balance with how frequently they bombard the players with new stuff, and how much at a time.

I have both been turned off of games by too little and by too much info.

[Jastermereel]

Shouldn't we relax a bit about this? Isn't this supposed to last until next season? They can't give it all away now; the season hasn't even finished yet.

Complaining about too little or too simple seems a bit premature when the game has barely begun. It'd be like complaining about the opening of the first season by thinking "oh, great! Do we really need another Survivor?"

Give the game some time.

[Briomega]

Shouldn't we relax a bit about this? Isn't this supposed to last until next season? They can't give it all away now; the season hasn't even finished yet.

Complaining about too little or too simple seems a bit premature when the game has barely begun. It'd be like complaining about the opening of the first season by thinking "oh, great! Do we really need another Survivor?"

Give the game some time.

Well, usually the way these things go, when a clue like this is given out it actually leads to something. That's really the only complaint is that this clue seemingly leads to nothing or possibly something already found.

I don't want everything in one go. But, there's little fun if you try and figure out a clue and work hard to decipher it only to receive no reward for that work.

[LordKinbote]

Shouldn't we relax a bit about this? Isn't this supposed to last until next season? They can't give it all away now; the season hasn't even finished yet.

Complaining about too little or too simple seems a bit premature when the game has barely begun. It'd be like complaining about the opening of the first season by thinking "oh, great! Do we really need another Survivor?"

Give the game some time.

I'm not sure I understand the analogy, but anyway, we're just shooting the shit. I wasn't complaining about the game being too simple, I was just expressing my opinion that I would not play the game if the puppetmasters behind the game really thought the couple thousand people playing needed their hand held through the puzzles.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Guys, it's not THF.org on May 1, it's THFS.org on May 6....at least, that's what I've found.

[LordKinbote]

Guys, it's not THF.org on May 1, it's THFS.org on May 6....at least, that's what I've found.

And if you saw my reply to the guy who came up with that, he was way wrong in the way he translated the ASCII.

I mean, he rotated 1 13 times to get 6...how do you figure?

[Adrian B AWESOME]

And if you saw my reply to the guy who came up with that, he was way wrong in the way he translated the ASCII.

I mean, he rotated 1 13 times to get 6...how do you figure? What I had found is that the 1 is wrong, and the 6 is correct.

Plus, why would you have to log in in the past?

As well, the 6th is the start of the Aussie version. ANNNNNDDD the PDF is marked may 6 2006.

Makes sense to me.

Whenever the date, it's defintly NOT THF.org. I've found THFS.org.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

http://www.rot13.com/

There's your 13 times.

[Briomega]

What I had found is that the 1 is wrong, and the 6 is correct.

Plus, why would you have to log in in the past?

As well, the 6th is the start of the Aussie version. ANNNNNDDD the PDF is marked may 6 2006.

Makes sense to me.

Whenever the date, it's defintly NOT THF.org. I've found THFS.org.

Everyone's come out with thf.org and believes it's just related to the main site. Haven't seen anyone come out with thfs. The date part is most likely to be the 6th though. Probably will be a way to get into the Board of Directors listings then.

[LordKinbote]

http://www.rot13.com/

There's your 13 times.

But the 1 is in the ASCII. And then that's rotated. And this site doesn't do it, but if it did, 1 would be 14.

I translated the ASCII by hand, letter for letter. The web site is three characters before the period, three after. It's THF.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

But the 1 is in the ASCII. And then that's rotated. And this site doesn't do it, but if it did, 1 would be 14.

I translated the ASCII by hand, letter for letter. The web site is three characters before the period, three after. It's THF.
www.thf.org takes you to the Dreyfus Health Foundation.

I hardly think they are a part of Lost.

www.thfs.org takes you to an error page. To me, that's far more reliable than a charity foundation that has existed for the last 4 years.

[Briomega]

www.thf.org takes you to the Dreyfus Health Foundation.

I hardly think they are a part of Lost.

They aren't. It's just shorthand for thehansofoundation.org. The date's the 6th, a lot of sites are now updating with that. Probably be a message from Persephone then to help get further.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Oh, and I read most of Bad Twin today. Widmore is all over it.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Oh, wait, that's not a 6.

I'm a dipshit.

[Briomega]

Oh, wait, that's not a 6.

I'm a dipshit.

Someone's run the thing through a rot18 translator and it gives a 6. Makes sense. Should be something more tomorrow (or even tonight depending on when they update).

[LordKinbote]

Someone's run the thing through a rot18 translator and it gives a 6. Makes sense. Should be something more tomorrow (or even tonight depending on when they update).

Apparently I'm completely mentally retarded. How does a 1 change into a 6 by rot18?

[Briomega]

Apparently I'm completely mentally retarded. How does a 1 change into a 6 by rot18?

Got me. But that's what they say they've gotten from it. Makes more sense than the 1st though.

[LordKinbote]

Got me. But that's what they say they've gotten from it. Makes more sense than the 1st though.

Not if it's wrong!

[Briomega]

Not if it's wrong!

Well you can't log in to something in the past.

[LordKinbote]

Well you can't log in to something in the past.

Technically, that's not true. The Hanso site's clock is run by YOUR computer clock. So set your date to May 1st, and presto.

[Briomega]

Technically, that's not true. The Hanso site's clock is run by YOUR computer clock. So set your date to May 1st, and presto.

Doesn't do anything though. It's just cosmetic. Site acts exactly the same.

[LordKinbote]

Doesn't do anything though. It's just cosmetic. Site acts exactly the same.

True.

Look, I'm not saying that you can log on in the past. I'm not saying that May 1 makes sense.

All I'm saying is that May 6 isn't the answer just because it looks like a good answer. You can't change the numbers to whatever you wan't to make them "fit". A rotation code is very simple...you just take the number of the code and add that to every letter. So if you had A and rot18, you'd go up by 18 letters and get S.

Now numbers usually aren't meant to be changed by a rotational code because it's a modular code. But let's say they are. Then logically you'd take a number and add 18 to it. If you had 1, you'd add 18 and get 19.

I'm sorry. As a math teacher, it gets me worked up. :)

[Briomega]

Besides, maybe I'm not doing it right but if rot13 comes up with a 1 than wouldn't rot18 be 5 places more and thus 6? From what I read on the cypher I thought that's how it would work.

[LordKinbote]

Besides, maybe I'm not doing it right but if rot13 comes up with a 1 than wouldn't rot18 be 5 places more and thus 6? From what I read on the cypher I thought that's how it would work.

Ah, but that's the thing, rot-13 didn't come up with a 1. If you go to http://www.rot13.com and put in a number, it just returns that number. So because 1 was in the original code, the 1 stayed the same when everything else was rotated.

So when someone came up with rot-18, they said "Oh, we need to change the 1 accordingly" and added 5. But the problem is, it was 1 at the beginning, not after rotating.

That has to be what happened. Man, it feels better knowing how the error was made.

[Briomega]

Ah, but that's the thing, rot-13 didn't come up with a 1. If you go to http://www.rot13.com and put in a number, it just returns that number. So because 1 was in the original code, the 1 stayed the same when everything else was rotated.

So when someone came up with rot-18, they said "Oh, we need to change the 1 accordingly" and added 5. But the problem is, it was 1 at the beginning, not after rotating.

That has to be what happened. Man, it feels better knowing how the error was made.

I see what you mean. Dunno, then. From reading up on it, you can only get a number 0-9 using rot18 so I'm not sure what's going on. All I know is I've seen it corrected in several places that they used a rot18 cypher and came out with 6. :shrug:

[LordKinbote]

I see what you mean. Dunno, then. From reading up on it, you can only get a number 0-9 using rot18 so I'm not sure what's going on. All I know is I've seen it corrected in several places that they used a rot18 cypher and came out with 6. :shrug:

They're all reporting from the same source. And all rotational codes use 0-25 and cycle back to 0 when you reach 25.

You know, the rot18 thing is just rubbish anyway. Using rot13 and using rot18 get completely different letters. They can't both give the same letters but one single different number.

[Briomega]

They're all reporting from the same source. And all rotational codes use 0-25 and cycle back to 0 when you reach 25.

Yeah, and I can't find an actual rot18 translator to check it against the original. Ah, well, I'm fairly sure it's not 1 either way. Will there be something tomorrow? Guess we have to wait and see. ;)

[Briomega]

They're all reporting from the same source. And all rotational codes use 0-25 and cycle back to 0 when you reach 25.

You know, the rot18 thing is just rubbish anyway. Using rot13 and using rot18 get completely different letters. They can't both give the same letters but one single different number.

Yeah, that confused me as well. The thing I read though said you can only get a number 0-9 using rot18, so is it possible to use just that one part of the cypher and get a number out of it? I think that part is "49" from what I can see.

[LordKinbote]

Yeah, and I can't find an actual rot18 translator to check it against the original. Ah, well, I'm fairly sure it's not 1 either way. Will there be something tomorrow? Guess we have to wait and see. ;)

So if something does appear tomorrow, should I be happy that we have new content? Or should I be pissed that everyone's going to assume I've been completely wrong all this time? :)

[Mike Haseloff]

Wow, I was just walking down the street, and this guy was laughing hysterically. So anyway, I asked him what was so funny, and he's just all, "Man, you can't believe how wrong this guy LordKinbote was!"

Pretty cryptic! :?

[Briomega]

So if something does appear tomorrow, should I be happy that we have new content? Or should I be pissed that everyone's going to assume I've been completely wrong all this time? :)

At this point, I'll be happy for content. I trust what you are saying. I'm a historian not a mathematician, but even so I can logically see something is wrong with the equations. ;)

[LordKinbote]

Wow, I was just walking down the street, and this guy was laughing hysterically. So anyway, I asked him what was so funny, and he's just all, "Man, you can't believe how wrong this guy LordKinbote was!"

Pretty cryptic! :?

By everyone, I meant everyone in this thread.

Smartass.

[Mike Haseloff]

By everyone, I meant everyone in this thread.

Smartass.Hey! I know you! You're the WRONG guy! :D

[Briomega]

By everyone, I meant everyone in this thread.

Smartass.

heh wouldn't worry about it, there seems to be only a few of us actually driving ourselves insane over this. :lol:

[Smokinblues]

heh wouldn't worry about it, there seems to be only a few of us actually driving ourselves insane over this. :lol:

i can't leave you guys alone for even just a few hours. tsk tsk

[Jastermereel]

So...should anything be made of the fact that in the WWPDP's Press Release the word "miracle" is clickable but doesn't yet do anything and the fact that Peter Thompson's recovery was described as "miraculous"?

[Briomega]

So...should anything be made of the fact that in the WWPDP's Press Release the word "miracle" is clickable but doesn't yet do anything and the fact that Peter Thompson's recovery was described as "miraculous"?

Yeah, mentioned the miracle thing earlier. There's a ton of stuff there that's just not active yet.

[Jim.]

I think we will find out soon that this ARG like many plays on a schedule. MWF or TTh something like that.

[Briomega]

I think we will find out soon that this ARG like many plays on a schedule. MWF or TTh something like that.

Yeah, you're probably right. Doesn't seem like there's anything new for the weekend. I'm convinced the clue yesterday was pointing to the Joop letters and they just didn't realize how smart people were and that they'd find that stuff before the clue was even given.

[Jastermereel]

Yeah, mentioned the miracle thing earlier. There's a ton of stuff there that's just not active yet.
I figured that the inactive part had been mentioned. My real interest was the shared vocabulary use. Is there a connection between the two perhaps?

[Briomega]

I figured that the inactive part had been mentioned. My real interest was the shared vocabulary use. Is there a connection between the two perhaps?

Seems likely. There's also the missing organs thing which is probably connected to him as well. As to whether it is just interesting info or actual useful clues, I don't know. Tried using all of them as passwords with his name to log in and nothing came up.

[LordKinbote]

thelostexperience.com is now reporting the correct number to be 8, not 1 or 6.

How, you may ask? Well, they figure the number is on a simple substitution (0 is 9, 1 is 8, 2 is 7).

Of course, they're basing this substitution on ONE CHARACTER. It's like me sending you the message X and telling you that it was encrypted.

Either way, seems like there's a new message at persephone.thehansofoundation.org that says that the answer is 8, which is fine. If they tell us it's 8, I'll believe it. There's no need to go back and assume that we completely messed up decoding.

[Briomega]

thelostexperience.com is now reporting the correct number to be 8, not 1 or 6.

How, you may ask? Well, they figure the number is on a simple substitution (0 is 9, 1 is 8, 2 is 7).

Of course, they're basing this substitution on ONE CHARACTER. It's like me sending you the message X and telling you that it was encrypted.

Either way, seems like there's a new message at persephone.thehansofoundation.org that says that the answer is 8, which is fine. If they tell us it's 8, I'll believe it. There's no need to go back and assume that we completely messed up decoding.

Yeah, something's wrong when you have to post an emergency puzzle to get everyone the right answer. Kind of lame and even worse the original puzzle was just saying there will be new stuff 3 days later, umm okay, great. That was fun. :mistrust:

[Criden]

Nice, missed that.

Amen!

[Criden]

If that's the case, I'm going to stop playing. They GIVE you the number, you call, a voice GIVES you a password, and then you say anything to the monkey, connect the dots, and you get the documents.

If they don't think we're smarter than what is called for to get that far, this game is not for me.

So I don't believe that's the case.

Actually, you can't just say anything to the monkey.

[LordKinbote]

Actually, you can't just say anything to the monkey.

You sure? I said *several* things and always got through.

[Criden]

You sure? I said *several* things and always got through.

yep, I wasn't able to at first

[Briomega]

You sure? I said *several* things and always got through.

Same. I think as long as you've put in the password it unlocks that portion regardless of what you type.

[Criden]

Same. I think as long as you've put in the password it unlocks that portion regardless of what you type.

Ah--that must've been the problem.

[Briomega]

Ah--that must've been the problem.

Yeah, the unfortunate side-effect to that is people have been able to decompile the whole site and basically see what's unlocked and what isn't. Which takes some of the fun out of it, unless you avoid all the assorted sites working on the game.

[Smokinblues]

http://emri.perception.net/

It has the disney terms of service at the bottom, but the whois doesn't look like a disney domain. don't know if it's real or not for sure

edit - just a fansite trying to look like the real thing

[Briomega]

http://emri.perception.net/

It has the disney terms of service at the bottom, but the whois doesn't look like a disney domain. don't know if it's real or not for sure

edit - just a fansite trying to look like the real thing

Whois stuff can be falsified, too. There was one site that had abc listed in whois but was clearly a fansite.

Nothing new so far. Either the date's fucked up again or the message was mistranslated... again.

[Smokinblues]

Whois stuff can be falsified, too. There was one site that had abc listed in whois but was clearly a fansite.

Nothing new so far. Either the date's fucked up again or the message was mistranslated... again.

yeah. not new, but new to me

http://lost.beloblog.com/?nl

talking about the page that has the scribbles going on...


I noticed after about a half hour-45 min. that a head and partial torso from neck to shoulders is hidden in the photo and that the scribbles are what form it. It is not that guy from the Mental Health page but someone else entirely! The face is hidden partially in shadows and is slimmer that the Mental Health dude as is the neck and shoulders of the shadowy figure. Alvar Hanso, maybe?

[Briomega]

yeah. not new, but new to me

http://lost.beloblog.com/?nl

talking about the page that has the scribbles going on...

Yeah, there's a picture hidden in the files that someone managed to get. It shows a white haired man, that certainly could be Hanso. Though it could also be Liddy (if it's not a woman). Some idio..err people, have been theorizing it's an aged Locke (who may be a clone of Hanso :roll: ) or that it's Zeke.

[Briomega]

This is the pic they found.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h92/Briomega/image48gn.jpg

[Jim.]

This is the pic they found.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h92/Briomega/image48gn.jpg
Wow. That looks a lot like
Locke

[Briomega]

New stuff has been added to the Hanso site. Check the Exectuvie Bios section. Very interesting.

[Smokinblues]

New stuff has been added to the Hanso site. Check the Exectuvie Bios section. Very interesting.

so..

Alvar Hanso hasn't been seen publicly in 4 years, the picture is far away and grainy and of someone else. more to it?

[CraigM]

New stuff has been added to the Hanso site. Check the Exectuvie Bios section. Very interesting.
Click on Alvar Hanso and then click on the date.

Craig

[Briomega]

Okay, when you get to the end where it asks where is Hanso leave it play. You get a morse code message. I think I have it translated as SAFEG but the last letter might be wrong.

[Briomega]

Okay, it could be SAFER I'm not good at Morse though. Can someone else check it?

[Smokinblues]

Okay, when you get to the end where it asks where is Hanso leave it play. You get a morse code message. I think I have it translated as SAFEG but the last letter might be wrong.

ah. no sound at work.

[CraigM]

Dates and Locations of Hanso sightings

London - 06.14.2000
Copenhagen - 11.12.2000
Paris - 02.23.2001
Geneva - 07.12.2001
Roma - 09.18.2001
Copenhagen - 01.01.2001
Madrid - 12.31.2002

Craig

[CraigM]

Okay, it could be SAFER I'm not good at Morse though. Can someone else check it?
I don't know any Morse. Checking around to see if anyone else has figured out the Morse.

Craig

[Briomega]

I don't know any Morse. Checking around to see if anyone else has figured out the Morse.

Craig

It's the last letter I couldn't hear very well. The rest I am certain of.

[Briomega]

Shit, someone mentioned a number for the last one and that could be it. I thought it was two dashes and a dot, but it could represent the number 9. Could be alluding to tomorrow being another clue. Damn my morse code skillz!

[CraigM]

Shit, someone mentioned a number for the last one and that could be it. I thought it was two dashes and a dot, but it could represent the number 9. Could be alluding to tomorrow being another clue. Damn my morse code skillz!
Hm...

I wonder if the dates and locations have any signifigance behind them as well.

Craig

[Smokinblues]

Hm...

I wonder if the dates and locations have any signifigance behind them as well.

Craig

somebody said sending a message to joop takes a password now, but i'm not seeing it.

[Briomega]

somebody said sending a message to joop takes a password now, but i'm not seeing it.

It always did. You had to put in the original password for it to work.

[Briomega]

Man, whoever is running this game must be punching themselves in the nuts over this. Yet another clue and yet another controversy over what it actually means. :lol:

[Smokinblues]

It always did. You had to put in the original password for it to work.

I know. I meant a new user name and password field.

[Smokinblues]

http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/2006/05/clue-28-newspaper-ad.html

the hanso foundation is taking out newspaper ads denouncing "Bad Twin"

[Smokinblues]

http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/2006/05/clue-28-newspaper-ad.html

the hanso foundation is taking out newspaper ads denouncing "Bad Twin"

It doesn't appear to have any clues, just publicity for the book and the website.

[CraigM]

It doesn't appear to have any clues, just publicity for the book and the website.
Yeah, that's all I've noticed thus far. No weird highlighting of letters or anything.

Craig

[Jastermereel]

Dates and Locations of Hanso sightings

London - 06.14.2000
Copenhagen - 11.12.2000
Paris - 02.23.2001
Geneva - 07.12.2001
Roma - 09.18.2001
Copenhagen - 01.01.2001
Madrid - 12.31.2002

Craig
Is my math screwed up or is there some time travel there? It's interesting that that is the only one they show twice. All of the other spots, he hops to and from without updates on when, but in that particular instance they give a new date that doesn't make sense.
Where did he go when he hopped off the map from Copenhagen? And why are three of the boxes (Rome, Copenhagen 2 and Madrid) shown in white rather than with a static-filled background?

[Briomega]

Is my math screwed up or is there some time travel there? It's interesting that that is the only one they show twice. All of the other spots, he hops to and from without updates on when, but in that particular instance they give a new date that doesn't make sense.
Where did he go when he hopped off the map from Copenhagen? And why are three of the boxes (Rome, Copenhagen 2 and Madrid) shown in white rather than with a static-filled background?

The speculation has been that it's connected to the electromagnetic event that's shown on another page on the site and that there might be some type of Philadelphia Experiment thing that happened.

[Smokinblues]

The speculation has been that it's connected to the electromagnetic event that's shown on another page on the site and that there might be some type of Philadelphia Experiment thing that happened.
apparently the hanso foundation got a 'special thanks' in MI 3 ending credits. rumor to be a link in the movie important to the game. i'm not paying to see the flick.

[LordKinbote]

Is my math screwed up or is there some time travel there? It's interesting that that is the only one they show twice. All of the other spots, he hops to and from without updates on when, but in that particular instance they give a new date that doesn't make sense.
Where did he go when he hopped off the map from Copenhagen? And why are three of the boxes (Rome, Copenhagen 2 and Madrid) shown in white rather than with a static-filled background?

I think it's infinitely more likely that they meant 12/31/01 and 1/1/02, not the other way around.

[Jastermereel]

I think it's infinitely more likely that they meant 12/31/01 and 1/1/02, not the other way around.
While it's possible it was a type-o, I think you dramatically overestimate it with "infinitely", especially given everything else in Lost and on the site.

Also, any ideas on why some were a different color?

[Smokinblues]

holy crap.

I saw a comment on insidetheexperience.com, but couldn't duplicate it. this is the first i've seen of this so hiding it.

they said that if you talk to persephone again the clock changes from time to OB:EY and links to www.sublymonal.com. I couldn't get the clock to change so I went to the link directly. Let it load, then click each screen repeatedly until it moves to the next one. it will reveal a code, heir apparent. There's a hidden link to hansofoundation bios page, click on middle work and input the code

[LordKinbote]

holy crap.

I saw a comment on insidetheexperience.com, but couldn't duplicate it. this is the first i've seen of this so hiding it.

they said that if you talk to persephone again the clock changes from time to OB:EY and links to www.sublymonal.com. I couldn't get the clock to change so I went to the link directly. Let it load, then click each screen repeatedly until it moves to the next one. it will reveal a code, heir apparent. There's a hidden link to hansofoundation bios page, click on middle work and input the code

It's not just repeatedly. It's 4 8 15 16 23 42.

[Smokinblues]

It's not just repeatedly. It's 4 8 15 16 23 42.

figured it might be, but i didn't count so i didn't sat

[Briomega]

holy crap.

I saw a comment on insidetheexperience.com, but couldn't duplicate it. this is the first i've seen of this so hiding it.

they said that if you talk to persephone again the clock changes from time to OB:EY and links to www.sublymonal.com. I couldn't get the clock to change so I went to the link directly. Let it load, then click each screen repeatedly until it moves to the next one. it will reveal a code, heir apparent. There's a hidden link to hansofoundation bios page, click on middle work and input the code

Yeah, there's a lot of false leads and people spouting bullshit to get people to go on wild goose chases. It's a pretty safe bet if you can't duplicate it easily or at all, it's likely fake. I saw something similar on another site, but again, nobody could duplicate it.

[Briomega]

Didn't have to do anything to get it actually. It just popped up on it's own.

So, basically, they are just revealing stuff about the various people. Tomorrow should be McIntyre's turn if this follows through.

[Smokinblues]

Didn't have to do anything to get it actually. It just popped up on it's own.


mine popped to obey, but only after i had already gotten the clue.

anybody got any 3d glasses?

[Briomega]

mine popped to obey, but only after i had already gotten the clue.

anybody got any 3d glasses?

Not sure, think the kids might have a pair. Why?

[Evan Wiener]

mine popped to obey, but only after i had already gotten the clue.

anybody got any 3d glasses?

So I went to the Sublymonal site and clicked the screen sequence. It takes me back to the Hanso site, and Mittlewerk's bio has a text field on it. What do I type?

[LordKinbote]

So I went to the Sublymonal site and clicked the screen sequence. It takes me back to the Hanso site, and Mittlewerk's bio has a text field on it. What do I type?

The code that the sublymonal site gave you which was heir apparent

[Lyfeforce]

my guess is that it has something to do with the caps in subLYMONal and the code that pops up, however, I haven't had any luck cracking it further.

[Briomega]

Okay, I think I know what you were looking for Brad. The glasses didn't help much but it looks like it says:

Gary Troup knows too much (red)
He must be silenced (blue)

[Smokinblues]

Okay, I think I know what you were looking for Brad. The glasses didn't help much but it looks like it says:

Gary Troup knows too much (red)
He must be silenced (blue)

yeah, that's what others had said, was wondering if there is more to it than just that.

[Briomega]

yeah, that's what others had said, was wondering if there is more to it than just that.

I think it's pointing to those videos I found awhile back. There's 9 of them and I could only find 3. I gave up trying to find any more because I couldn't figure out any more book sellers.

[Smokinblues]

I think it's pointing to those videos I found awhile back. There's 9 of them and I could only find 3. I gave up trying to find any more because I couldn't figure out any more book sellers.

i think only three have been found so far

[LordKinbote]

Yeah, if a couple thousand people can't find six videos, they aren't there to be found just yet.

[Briomega]

Here's the thing that I'm not sure I understand. The correspondence about Mittelwerk is from Persephone. She's trying to take down Hanso or at least inform us about what's wrong with the company. Why the message about Gary Troup? That would seem to be something coming from Hanso, not Persephone.

[Briomega]

Well, we now know for sure what this ARG is really about. So, today's clue was also given out during a Sprite commercial. Get it? Sprite? subLYMONal? OB:EY your thirst? :roll:

[Smokinblues]

Well, we now know for sure what this ARG is really about. So, today's clue was also given out during a Sprite commercial. Get it? Sprite? subLYMONal? OB:EY your thirst? :roll:

that I don't mind so much. if there had been a sprite logo at the site it would bother me. But punny URL's don't really intrude, and can stand on their own as just a weird spelling.

[Briomega]

that I don't mind so much. if there had been a sprite logo at the site it would bother me. But punny URL's don't really intrude, and can stand on their own as just a weird spelling.

It's not too bad, but it still kind of bugs me. The Monster and verizon ads on the voicemail weren't too bad but adding the slogans into the game is starting to stretch things a bit. Hopefully the next password isn't Chicken Fries or I'm out. :lol:

[Evan Wiener]

There are two red areas instead of the blue and red areas on the Tuition document in the Thomas Mittlewerk bio.

Anyone have anything to check if they're new?

[Evan Wiener]

Well, we now know for sure what this ARG is really about. So, today's clue was also given out during a Sprite commercial. Get it? Sprite? subLYMONal? OB:EY your thirst? :roll:

Really? What Sprite commercial? Is there where "heir apparent" came from?

This game is becoming extremely unrewarding if it's based on subliminal advertising.

[Briomega]

Really? What Sprite commercial? Is there where "heir apparent" came from?

This game is becoming extremely unrewarding if it's based on subliminal advertising.

They just gave out the website that the clue was on (www.sublymonal.com).

[Evan Wiener]

They just gave out the website that the clue was on (www.sublymonal.com) (http://www.sublymonal.com%29).

That was a Sprite ad? I didn't see any Sprite mentioned on that page.

[Briomega]

That was a Sprite ad? I didn't see any Sprite mentioned on that page.

It was given out during a Sprite commercial on TV. Plus the site is sublymonal. Lymon is their catchphrase. And the thing on the Hanso site said OB:EY, which is their slogan.

[thecheat1]

Hi guys,

Maybe you can help me with this. Whe I type the password into Mittlework's text bubble on the website, I can't get anything to happen. Is there something special I have to do? Also, if I click the date on Hanso's bio, nothing happens.

What should I do?

[thecheat1]

Figured it out, I wasn't signed in.

[thecheat1]

Ok, now I'm confused. Nothing happens when I enter the password on Mittlework's box. The loading circle spins then, nothing. Do you have to type it a certain way?

[Nick Hale]

You have to type it in all together, thats about the only thing I've figured out.

[Smokinblues]

You have to type it in all together, thats about the only thing I've figured out.

i was able to type it in with a space between heir and apparent no problem

[Lyfeforce]

Figured it out, I wasn't signed in.

now the dumb question:
how does one sign in?

[Smokinblues]

now the dumb question:
how does one sign in?

type in a name on the newsletter signup bit.

[Evan Wiener]

So has anything moved forward today after last night's episode?

[Smokinblues]

So has anything moved forward today after last night's episode?

haven't seen anything yet, seems like the weekly episodes are going to be a catch up spot. let the hardcore folks go all week then let the mainstream folks catch up on Wedneday?

[Smokinblues]

something i didn't think about until seeing it elsewhere...the word miracle was used a lot last night, and was a part of one of the game press releases wasn't it?

[Briomega]

something i didn't think about until seeing it elsewhere...the word miracle was used a lot last night, and was a part of one of the game press releases wasn't it?

The word miracle is a non-working link on the WWHDP press release. Plus there's obviously Thompson's miraculous recovery.

[Smokinblues]

they just added the newspapar ad to the site.

spoilers

the picture is at

http://thehansofoundation.org/press/extra/uploads/paris/newspaper.gif

if you delete newspaper.gif from your address bar you'll see a directory with a pdf you can look at, that is a legal threat to the publisher of the book.

http://thehansofoundation.org/press/extra/uploads/paris/legalmiller_final.pdf

the pdf is in a paris directory. there is also a london directory one level up, but nothing in it.

[Smokinblues]

haven't been able to find anything else othan what's quoted above.

[Briomega]

haven't been able to find anything else othan what's quoted above.

Yeah, it's weird though because they seem to have updated several areas of the site but nothing activates. Hopefully they give us some fun for the weekend.

[Briomega]

So, if you go to the page where the ad is located and then go up a directory (http://thehansofoundation.org/press/extra/uploads/paris/) you find a hidden PDF letter (http://thehansofoundation.org/press/extra/uploads/paris/legalmiller_final.pdf).

There's also a London directory, but nothing is in there yet.

[Smokinblues]

So, if you go to the page where the ad is located and then go up a directory (http://thehansofoundation.org/press/extra/uploads/paris/) you find a hidden PDF letter (http://thehansofoundation.org/press/extra/uploads/paris/legalmiller_final.pdf).

There's also a London directory, but nothing is in there yet.

right. what i said.

[Briomega]

right. what i said.

:lol: missed that one.

[LordKinbote]

I can tell you that there is no Copenhagen, Berlin, New York, Madrid, Barcelona, or Oslo directory. After that, I got bored.

[Smokinblues]

I can tell you that there is no Copenhagen, Berlin, New York, Madrid, Barcelona, or Oslo directory. After that, I got bored.

i tried some of those. the more i thought about it how they're playing this I don't think they'd fake the directory index page.

[Evan Wiener]

The word miracle is a non-working link on the WWHDP press release. Plus there's obviously Thompson's miraculous recovery.

Thompson's miraculous recovery?

Have their been any additional updates since "Heir Apparent?"

What are we to make of the globe-trotting Alvar Hanso? Didn't the time of those travels not appear to be linear?

[Smokinblues]

Thompson's miraculous recovery?

Have their been any additional updates since "Heir Apparent?"

What are we to make of the globe-trotting Alvar Hanso? Didn't the time of those travels not appear to be linear?
just the hidden directory mentioned a coupla posts up

[Briomega]

Thompson's miraculous recovery?

Have their been any additional updates since "Heir Apparent?"

What are we to make of the globe-trotting Alvar Hanso? Didn't the time of those travels not appear to be linear?

Thompson had inoperable lung and pancreatic cancer. He went to a Hanso facility in Geneva and was miraculously cured. Then he was hired by THF.

The only update's been the stuff about the book posted above, nothing else since.

[Criden]

I am having some trouble grasping the concept of the show and game. In the Lost-verse, the Hanso Foundation is a huge philanthropic, supermodern, and futuristic company, correct? Even in the present day, If I understand correctly. So, Jack, as a doctor, would certainly be familiar with the company, and, really, most everyone else should be, as well. I'd be hard-pressed to believe a savvy guy like John Locke would be unaware of something like the Hanso Foundation. Heck, even Mr. Eko should've heard of the Foundation, as it apparently helps out big time in Africa--or purports to. But, in the show, there is no recognition of the company portrayed. This strikes me as highly unlikely....

[Jim.]

I am having some trouble grasping the concept of the show and game. In the Lost-verse, the Hanso Foundation is a huge philanthropic, supermodern, and futuristic company, correct? Even in the present day, If I understand correctly. So, Jack, as a doctor, would certainly be familiar with the company, and, really, most everyone else should be, as well. I'd be hard-pressed to believe a savvy guy like John Locke would be unaware of something like the Hanso Foundation. Heck, even Mr. Eko should've heard of the Foundation, as it apparently helps out big time in Africa--or purports to. But, in the show, there is no recognition of the company portrayed. This strikes me as highly unlikely....
Yeah, something about this thing has been bugging me, and I think you hit the nail on the head.

[Briomega]

I am having some trouble grasping the concept of the show and game. In the Lost-verse, the Hanso Foundation is a huge philanthropic, supermodern, and futuristic company, correct? Even in the present day, If I understand correctly. So, Jack, as a doctor, would certainly be familiar with the company, and, really, most everyone else should be, as well. I'd be hard-pressed to believe a savvy guy like John Locke would be unaware of something like the Hanso Foundation. Heck, even Mr. Eko should've heard of the Foundation, as it apparently helps out big time in Africa--or purports to. But, in the show, there is no recognition of the company portrayed. This strikes me as highly unlikely....

Yeah, to be honest I don't think the game information is to be trusted at all. I really don't think it's meant to be much more than a fun diversion that plays with things from Lost.

[Criden]

Yeah, to be honest I don't think the game information is to be trusted at all. I really don't think it's meant to be much more than a fun diversion that plays with things from Lost.

Well, Brian, I can see why you'd say that, but I thought they originally announced it as something that would reveal some mysteries from the show. So the whole thing is kind of a wash....

[Briomega]

Well, Brian, I can see why you'd say that, but I thought they originally announced it as something that would reveal some mysteries from the show. So the whole thing is kind of a wash....

I never saw the actual announcement, so I'm not sure. I can't imagine it would reveal anything, though, since not everyone's gonna play it or for that matter even know it's going on. They'd then have a problem conveying whatever was revealed in the game to those people who only watch the show.

[Criden]

I never saw the actual announcement, so I'm not sure. I can't imagine it would reveal anything, though, since not everyone's gonna play it or for that matter even know it's going on. They'd then have a problem conveying whatever was revealed in the game to those people who only watch the show.

Exactly...which brings us back to my original point, I guess. The whole idea of a Lost ARG which fits unsteadily into the universe of the show and won't reveal anything worthwhile (well, hopefully won't) is a pretty flawed one, I'd say. Ugh, also--the game implies that by 2006, the Lostaways haven't taken down the clearly malicious Hanso Foundation. Well, why the fuck not? That strikes me as highly unlikely that the show will end with the villains at large, or, barring that, that the Lostaways will be stuck on the island until 2006, or even 2005....

[Smokinblues]

Well, Brian, I can see why you'd say that, but I thought they originally announced it as something that would reveal some mysteries from the show. So the whole thing is kind of a wash....


Well - the company's headquarted in Copenhagen, right? It's not impossible that it's a big deal in Europe and not so much over here. I might can see Jack knowing about it, but I can also see every one else never hearing of it.

[Criden]

Well - the company's headquarted in Copenhagen, right? It's not impossible that it's a big deal in Europe and not so much over here. I might can see Jack knowing about it, but I can also see every one else never hearing of it.

Really? From the website, it seems like it's pretty well known. Again, at the very least, Jack and Eko should have heard of it, and by your logic, Charlie. Just because it's headquartered in Copenhagen doesn't mean it's not incredibly well known--which is certainly the impression the site gives off. As well, it seems like there are Hanso centers all around the world, once again according to the site.

[Briomega]

Exactly...which brings us back to my original point, I guess. The whole idea of a Lost ARG which fits unsteadily into the universe of the show and won't reveal anything worthwhile (well, hopefully won't) is a pretty flawed one, I'd say. Ugh, also--the game implies that by 2006, the Lostaways haven't taken down the clearly malicious Hanso Foundation. Well, why the fuck not? That strikes me as highly unlikely that the show will end with the villains at large, or, barring that, that the Lostaways will be stuck on the island until 2006, or even 2005....

Ha, didn't even consider that. Ah,well.

On a side note, JJ was on Kimmel last night and said that he and Damon worked on the season finale for a long time and that it's gonna totally blow everyone's minds. :D