O&A on XM and CBS Radio

[Simps]

Right now they're playing old WNEW bits on XM202, then at 9AM there's an announcement coming on the FreeFM stations as well as XM.

[bachman]

I was reading about that whole thing this morning.

It seems kind of weird... and a little sad.

[Jim T.]

WYSP in Philly was just playing songs and comedy bits. And then saying there will be an announcement at 9.

[BENDIS!]

the announcement is as follows: o and a completely sell out thier audience and back peddle all of the bullshit about being satelite pioneers by gleefully chopping thier own material up to a company that sandbagged them in the first place.

six months from now when cbs buckles to religious group pressures and retreats to rock formats o and a ill spin this again and blame howard and everyone else.

o and a always fail in the end.

[Jim T.]

the announcement is as follows: o and a completely sell out thier audience and back peddle all of the bullshit about being satelite pioneers by gleefully chopping thier own material up to a company that sandbagged them in the first place.

six months from now when cbs buckles to religious group pressures and retreats to rock formats o and a ill spin this again and blame howard and everyone else.

o and a always fail in the end.

This sounds about right. Just can't see it working long term - the idiocy at CBS will be intolerable for O&A.

[Jim T.]

Here's the Press Release:



CBS, XM Announce Opie And Anthony Deal


It's now official, as CBS RADIO issues its press release confirming what ALL ACCESS was first to confirm on FRIDAY (4/21), the return of OPIE AND ANTHONY to terrestrial radio on WEDNESDAY (4/26) to replace the departed DAVID LEE ROTH show.

The show will air on CBS stations in six markets 6-9a (ET), simulcast with XM (in an uncensored form), and, as ALL ACCESS was the first to report, in afternoons 3-6p (ET) on WXRK (92.3 K-ROCK)/CLEVELAND. The CBS show will be streamed on the Internet feeds of WFNY-F (92.3 FREE FM)/NEW YORK, WYSP (94.1 FREE FM)/PHILADELPHIA, and KLLI (LIVE 105.3 FREE FM)/DALLAS. GREGG "OPIE" HUGHES and ANTHONY CUMIA will then head for their XM studio for a two-hour uncensored show 9-11a (ET).

In CBS' official press release, OPIE is quoted as saying “with the combination of XM and CBS RADIO, we now have the best gig in the business. The O & A Show is going to be bigger and better than ever.” A quote attributed to ANTHONY CUMIA says “we’ll now be able to reach millions of new fans and old fans with our new morning show on CBS while offering our loyal XM listeners an uncut show and two extra hours that will only be available on XM.” No quotes were attributed to sidekick JIM NORTON.

CBS Chairman/CEO JOEL HOLLANDER's official quote says that “OPIE AND ANTHONY have proven their determination to succeed in this business, and have a relationship with their audience that is second to none in the industry. CBS RADIO is well known for having among its portfolio some of the best brands in radio, and it’s great to have O&A among that stable again. Loyal listeners of O&A have grown accustomed to a show that’s real and entertaining. As we move forward, we do so with confidence that this new enterprise will continue in that same spirit.”

And XM's Pres./CEO HUGH PANERO added that “XM’s agreement with CBS RADIO is a big win for everyone. OPIE AND ANTHONY will now reach millions of new listeners and will continue to entertain the more than 6.5 million XM subscribers who have made their exclusive show on XM one of our most popular. XM is committed to creating the best content in radio and today’s announcement is an example of how we’re able to leverage it in a variety of ways that help build our business.”

Besides WFNY-F, WYSP, KLLI, and WXRK, the CBS show will air on WPBX (BUZZ 103.1)/WEST PALM BEACH, WRKZ (93.7 K-ROCK)/PITTSBURGH, and WBCN/BOSTON.

O&A were at one time syndicated on 22 stations before they were fired by CBS' predecessor INFINITY in AUGUST 2002 after the infamous "Sex for SAM III" incident in which a couple competing in the promotion tried to have sex in ST. PATRICK'S CATHEDRAL; the show relaunched on XM on OCTOBER 4, 2004. ALL ACCESS has learned that syndication rights will remain with O&A and their agent ROBERT EATMAN.

[Blunt]

the announcement is as follows: o and a completely sell out thier audience and back peddle all of the bullshit about being satelite pioneers by gleefully chopping thier own material up to a company that sandbagged them in the first place.

six months from now when cbs buckles to religious group pressures and retreats to rock formats o and a ill spin this again and blame howard and everyone else.

o and a always fail in the end.
is there a rolling eyes smiley here?

who's doing the spinning here?

[Hate_Prime]

Will it be simulcast on xm?

Also, it's definately one huge backpeddle. Guess they didn't dislike working in analog radio that much.

[Jim T.]

Will it be simulcast on xm?

Also, it's definately one huge backpeddle. Guess they didn't dislike working in analog radio that much.

Yes, it will be simulcast on XM.

[Dr. Blasphemy]

Wait- I am confused.
Are they gonna be on the MORNINGS on WMCX in Cleveland, then again in the afternoon on 92.3?
Hmmm....

[Simps]

Hahaha, my favourite quote from the article:


No quotes were attributed to sidekick JIM NORTON.

[Jim T.]

Hahaha, my favourite quote from the article:

I laughed at that, too. Why even write that?

[Jonny Z]

i was in a car without satellite radio in it, so i got to hear a little.

the best part was when dopie or anthony said "we're in today at 9 AM just to test out the equipment, familiarize ourselves with everything, give it all a test run. no one ever does this." :lol:

[LazyComix]

How are O&A and their fans spinning this to be a positive?

I'd love to hear them explain how going back to suck on corporate tit after making zero impact on satellite is a good thing.

[Blunt]

six months from now when cbs buckles to religious group pressures and retreats to rock formats o and a ill spin this again and blame howard and everyone else.

http://www.catholicleague.org/06press_releases/quarter%202/060420_O&A_CBS.htm


April 20, 2006

“OPIE AND ANTHONY” MOVE TO CBS RADIO

Catholic League president Bill Donohue commented today on news reports about a pending move by CBS Radio to hire radio talk-show hosts “Opie and Anthony”:



“After I lashed out against ‘Opie and Anthony’ for providing an on-air account of a sexual stunt in St. Patrick’s Cathedral in 2002, they were fired by Infinity Broadcasting, the CBS Radio outlet. Once they were dumped, I withdrew the complaint that I had filed with the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and asked the FCC to drop its investigation. On August 5, 2004, I issued a news release about the decision of XM Satellite Radio to pick up the duo beginning October 4. At that time I said, ‘We wish Opie and Anthony well and trust they have learned their lesson.’ Now CBS Radio is set to bring them back on its Free-FM outlets.



“To those who say ‘you can’t go home again,’ I say nonsense: In the year-and-a-half that Opie and Anthony have been on XM Satellite, not a single complaint has reached our office about anything they’ve said. Indeed, when the two shock jocks were picked up by XM, their producer called one morning and asked if I would go on the air with them. Though I had some reservations, I said yes, and was immediately put through. They made it clear that they regretted the St. Patrick’s stunt. We mixed it up for a bit and had a great time.



“In short, the Catholic League hopes Opie and Anthony have a great run on CBS Radio.”that's some pressure they're under.
:-?

[BENDIS!]

How are O&A and their fans spinning this to be a positive?

I'd love to hear them explain how going back to suck on corporate tit after making zero impact on satellite is a good thing.


oh its easy, they just repeat whatever spin bullshit lie crap opie says without giving it any thought on thier own....

rodger... :)

[BENDIS!]

http://www.catholicleague.org/06press_releases/quarter%202/060420_O&A_CBS.htm

that's some pressure they're under.
:-?


yes, because one dude with a letterhead is all of the world. he was on thier show. the guy is a loon.

[Blunt]

yes, because one dude with a letterhead is all of the world. he was on thier show. the guy is a loon.
same could be said about one dude with a message board

[LazyComix]

oh its easy, they just repeat whatever spin bullshit lie crap opie says without giving it any thought on thier own....

rodger... :)

Yeah, where's rodger?

O&A could drop kick babies into traffic and you'd think it was the best bit ever...

[Flonk]

oh its easy, they just repeat whatever spin bullshit lie crap Howard says without giving it any thought on thier own....

:innocent:

[Jim T.]

Yeah, where's rodger?

O&A could drop kick babies into traffic and you'd think it was the best bit ever...

Really, anything involving Jimmy Norton and babies has the potential to be great.

[Jonny Z]

i was in a car without satellite radio in it, so i got to hear a little.

the best part was when dopie or anthony said "we're in today at 9 AM just to test out the equipment, familiarize ourselves with everything, give it all a test run. no one ever does this." :lol:

what, no one else got a kick out of that?

[Jim T.]

More from AllAccess.com:

"In a special O&A broadcast announcement that aired at 9a (ET) today on their new morning show stations, O&A joked about sitting in HOWARD STERN's chair and about having to go out to WFNY VP/GM TOM CHIUSANO's country club to ink their deal, OPIE said, "Stupid HOWARD. This is the move ... we do both (satellite & terrestrial)." They also joked that there'd be a parade every day at 9a as they march down the street from CBS to the XM studios."

Bitching about Howard may be the worst way to regain the old Stern listener audience that CBS lost. That routine gets old fast and it's way beneath their abilities.

[Blunt]

:innocent:
exactly

[Blunt]

what, no one else got a kick out of that?
bump it again in another 20 minutes... maybe it will be funny then. :D

[Flonk]

what, no one else got a kick out of that?


It has never been done.

Jury is still out on if it's a good idea, but it is something new.

[Jonny Z]

More from AllAccess.com:

"In a special O&A broadcast announcement that aired at 9a (ET) today on their new morning show stations, O&A joked about sitting in HOWARD STERN's chair and about having to go out to WFNY VP/GM TOM CHIUSANO's country club to ink their deal, OPIE said, "Stupid HOWARD. This is the move ... we do both (satellite & terrestrial)." They also joked that there'd be a parade every day at 9a as they march down the street from CBS to the XM studios."

Bitching about Howard may be the worst way to regain the old Stern listener audience that CBS lost. That routine gets old fast and it's way beneath their abilities.

they sat together, huh? so which one's the bitch and which one's the butch?

[Jonny Z]

It has never been done.

Jury is still out on if it's a good idea, but it is something new.

no, my point was that it has been done. Stern did it a few times. :roll:

[Flonk]

no, my point was that it has been done. Stern did it a few times. :roll:

But not on the satelite as well. From a tech standpoint (which is what you were giggling about) it's all new stuff that they need to figure out.

[Dr. Blasphemy]

oh its easy, they just repeat whatever spin bullshit lie crap opie says without giving it any thought on thier own....

rodger... :)
Roger would reply if your power-hungry Mod didnt ban him!:no:

[Blunt]

no, my point was that it has been done. Stern did it a few times. :roll:
Howard went into a strange studio, one he never broadcast from before, and opened his mics on his show and figured out everything on air?

wow... that guy really did invent everything.

[Simps]

oh its easy, they just repeat whatever spin bullshit lie crap Howard says without giving it any thought on thier own....

:innocent: :rofl:

[Jonny Z]

But not on the satelite as well. From a tech standpoint (which is what you were giggling about) it's all new stuff that they need to figure out.

no no, i was giggling because they were testing out the equipment and broadcasting their test, claiming thats the first time anyones ever tried that on the air. but stern did several test broadcasts exactly like that before he ever launched his satellite program on 1/9/06

[Simps]

no no, i was giggling because they were testing out the equipment and broadcasting their test, claiming thats the first time anyones ever tried that on the air. but stern did several test broadcasts exactly like that before he ever launched his satellite program on 1/9/06
Come on friend, you can't be that oblivious to sarcasm...

[Blunt]

no no, i was giggling because they were testing out the equipment and broadcasting their test, claiming thats the first time anyones ever tried that on the air. but stern did several test broadcasts exactly like that before he ever launched his satellite program on 1/9/06
dude, you're insane and you're making Opie's point for him!

yeah, so Howard made test broadcasts before his official starting date. Whether he broadcast them or not. He didn't *open* his show figuring things out on the air.

Not to mention, it was dead air that Howard was going over... if he didn't broadcast that stuff you would have heard *nothing* as you paid for it... congrats, you got us, fella.

[Flonk]

I'm listening on-line. Have they dumped out yet?

[Hate_Prime]

It has never been done.

Jury is still out on if it's a good idea, but it is something new.

Howard did a test run on Sirius between his last free radio show and his debut 1/9/06. Before that, other people were mucking about doing silly crap on the air. 24 hours of goddamn Wendy the Retard and stuff like that. The launch of his channel was a guy farting on microphone for hours.

[adamgreenberger]

Wait- I am confused.
Are they gonna be on the MORNINGS on WMCX in Cleveland, then again in the afternoon on 92.3?
Hmmm....

I think they are only going to be on 92.3

[DrMachine]

the difference between O&A and Howard...is O&A would not have a show without Howard to talk about

[Simps]

I'm listening on-line. Have they dumped out yet?
I think the worst thing I've heard them say so far is "pissed". But I'm on XM, so I wouldn't know if they dump out, I think.

[Flonk]

Howard did a test run on Sirius between his last free radio show and his debut 1/9/06. Before that, other people were mucking about doing silly crap on the air. 24 hours of goddamn Wendy the Retard and stuff like that. The launch of his channel was a guy farting on microphone for hours.

Wow.....just wow.

[Blunt]

the difference between O&A and Howard...is O&A would not have a show without Howard to talk about
:roll:

[Blunt]

Wow.....just wow.
they paid good money to hear that :grope:

[Simps]

the difference between O&A and Howard...is O&A would not have a show without Howard to talk about
:roll: If you actually listened, you'd know what a small fraction of the show that has been.

[Jonny Z]

dude, you're insane and you're making Opie's point for him!

yeah, so Howard made test broadcasts before his official starting date. Whether he broadcast them or not. He didn't *open* his show figuring things out on the air.

Not to mention, it was dead air that Howard was going over... if he didn't broadcast that stuff you would have heard *nothing* as you paid for it... congrats, you got us, fella.

thats funny... i thought i was paying for over 100 channels of commercial free music as well. silly me. and everything stern does in addition to his daily morning show is just extra icing on the cake. but no, you're right. i'm sorry. i pay for dead air.

[Blunt]

I think the worst thing I've heard them say so far is "pissed". But I'm on XM, so I wouldn't know if they dump out, I think.
dougout doug (a caller) said "faggot" and it got over the air... eh.

so did one stern fan... boy he showed them!

[adamgreenberger]

It has never been done.

Jury is still out on if it's a good idea, but it is something new.

Howard did it at least two times before his offical start date on Sirius.

[adamgreenberger]

More from AllAccess.com:

"In a special O&A broadcast announcement that aired at 9a (ET) today on their new morning show stations, O&A joked about sitting in HOWARD STERN's chair and about having to go out to WFNY VP/GM TOM CHIUSANO's country club to ink their deal, OPIE said, "Stupid HOWARD. This is the move ... we do both (satellite & terrestrial)." They also joked that there'd be a parade every day at 9a as they march down the street from CBS to the XM studios."

Bitching about Howard may be the worst way to regain the old Stern listener audience that CBS lost. That routine gets old fast and it's way beneath their abilities.

It is not Howard's chair it is DLR's chair...idiots.

[Hate_Prime]

Wow.....just wow.

You'll be surprised how compelling the lowest common denomitor is.

[Blunt]

thats funny... i thought i was paying for over 100 channels of commercial free music as well. silly me. and everything stern does in addition to his daily morning show is just extra icing on the cake. but no, you're right. i'm sorry. i pay for dead air.
you're going off topic because you're wrong.

Allow me to put you back on track.

you found it funny that Opie said they were doing the show without testing the mics, etc.

you claimed Howard did that a *few times*

but then you stated that Howard did it, over what was dead air, before the opening date.

and you think you're making a good argument, Jonny? :-?

[Flonk]

Howard did it at least two times before his offical start date on Sirius.

Everone keeps missing my point. :no:

[adamgreenberger]

dude, you're insane and you're making Opie's point for him!


Not to mention, it was dead air that Howard was going over... if he didn't broadcast that stuff you would have heard *nothing* as you paid for it... congrats, you got us, fella.

Actually you would have heard the Howard 100 news...not dead air.

[Blunt]

Howard did it at least two times before his offical start date on Sirius.
exactly... he tested it before his starting date and aired it over dead air. You had to listen to dead air for hours on end to find those little gems.

congrats

[Jonny Z]

you're going off topic because you're wrong.

Allow me to put you back on track.

you found it funny that Opie said they were doing the show without testing the mics, etc.

you claimed Howard did that a *few times*

but then you stated that Howard did it, over what was dead air, before the opening date.

and you think you're making a good argument, Jonny? :-?

err, did you listen to o&a this morning? didnt they say they werent even supposed to be on the air today? :? which is why they didn't go on til 9AM? now who's making a good argument?

[Blunt]

Actually you would have heard the Howard 100 news...not dead air.
well, I certainly stand corrected.

What did they do rebroadcast the same Howard100 news show over and over?

I assumed with no programming they had nothing on there. I didn't think they reran the same hour or so of material over and over.

apologies

[Simps]

It is not Howard's chair it is DLR's chair...idiots.
Jesus, Stern fans are literal idiots

[adamgreenberger]

exactly... he tested it before his starting date and aired it over dead air. You had to listen to dead air for hours on end to find those little gems.

congrats

What dead air are you talking about?? The Howard 100 News was on both channels, there were some other shows on there as well. So there was no dead air.

Whoever said dead air was wrong...there was stuff on the channels.

[Blunt]

err, did you listen to o&a this morning? didnt they say they werent even supposed to be on the air today? :? which is why they didn't go on til 9AM? now who's making a good argument?
no, they said usually people would come in before they're start date and test the mics and run everything... and that they didn't do that.

I believe I am. :sad:

[Blunt]

What dead air are you talking about?? The Howard 100 News was on both channels, there were some other shows on there as well. So there was no dead air.

Whoever said dead air was wrong...there was stuff on the channels.
I already touched on this above somewhere.

and there was plenty of dead air when he opened his channels. that's what I was referring to.

[LazyComix]

err, did you listen to o&a this morning? didnt they say they werent even supposed to be on the air today? :? which is why they didn't go on til 9AM? now who's making a good argument?

wow, the corporate tit sucking rip-off hack DJ's are "spreading the virus" even when they're not supposed to be on the air yet! They're such pioneers!

[Blunt]

Jesus, Stern fans are literal idiots
:bendis:

;)

[adamgreenberger]

Jesus, Stern fans are literal idiots

All that "joke" by O&A does is show that they are more concerned with Howard than anything else...after a few months of them "gloating" that they are in his studio people will get tired of it...and move on

[Jonny Z]

well, I certainly stand corrected.

What did they do rebroadcast the same Howard100 news show over and over?

I assumed with no programming they had nothing on there. I didn't think they reran the same hour or so of material over and over.

apologies

oh no stern dih'ent! how dare he open his channels and begin programming before his pre-announced arrival date of 1/9/06!!!! how dare he trick people into buying sirius before he even went on the air on the date he anounced over a year ago??

[Blunt]

stern has a lot of fortune tellers listening to him

[adamgreenberger]

well, I certainly stand corrected.

What did they do rebroadcast the same Howard100 news show over and over?

I assumed with no programming they had nothing on there. I didn't think they reran the same hour or so of material over and over.

apologies

See I paid for Sirius not only for Stern...but for the NFL, the 100+ channels of music, the NBA, and college football and basketball. So I didn't care that there was some dead air to start on Howard's channels. And when the Howard 100 news started I would listen and then change the channel. I know they rebroadcast the news...but it was better than the dead air that stated when they launched.

[ERNIE_E]

well, I certainly stand corrected.

What did they do rebroadcast the same Howard100 news show over and over?

I assumed with no programming they had nothing on there. I didn't think they reran the same hour or so of material over and over.

apologies


During this time, the Howard 100 News crew had new material each day and previous broadcasts were on replay. They had several hours of Howard 100 News that broadcasted at this time.

Regardless of whether or not it was on dead air, or not, I do know that it was a funny few days when Howard and his group testing out the equipment. It was a nice surprise because he wasn't supposed to be on at least for a week or so.

But honestly what I would do as a Stern fan during this time is check and see if anything's on air, and if not, there's a ton of music and sports programming I checked out.

[Blunt]

oh no stern dih'ent! how dare he open his channels and begin programming before his pre-announced arrival date of 1/9/06!!!! how dare he trick people into buying sirius before he even went on the air on the date he anounced over a year ago??
uhm... again, you're going off point, sir.

you stated that Howard did what Opie claimed nobody does: which is open their mics for the first time at a new job on their start date.

Now you're saying Howard tested his stuff.

Which comment are you standing behind?

if it's the latter, I'm with you.

[Flonk]

And the thread devolves into pointless bitching. Oh well.

[BENDIS!]

Jesus, Stern fans are literal idiots

ben ben ben... they don;t have stern's job. stern has stern's job. they have dlr's job. They want to be him so so bad. already they're doing tom c. material. they are CLONES!!!

[Simps]

I'd just like to point out that yet again, a Stern fan (Bendis, the Stern fan equivalent of Rodger :)) came in just to rain on O&A fans' parade.

[Blunt]

During this time, the Howard 100 News crew had new material each day and previous broadcasts were on replay. They had several hours of Howard 100 News that broadcasted at this time.

Regardless of whether or not it was on dead air, or not, I do know that it was a funny few days when Howard and his group testing out the equipment. It was a nice surprise because he wasn't supposed to be on at least for a week or so.

But honestly what I would do as a Stern fan during this time is check and see if anything's on air, and if not, there's a ton of music and sports programming I checked out.no, that's cool. that's not my argument here. I believe I've illustrated what my argument here is.

I just remember people listening for hours to dead air waiting for something to happen. But that was while Howard wasn't allowed to be on the air there, so I stand corrected.

I think stern's material on sirius is a perfect dead aim shot of what his fans wanna hear.

[Doug]

I like O&A.

I think they are funny.

Jim Norton is very funny too, in my opinion.

I do not like that the XM subscribers will have to listen to the terrestrial radio commercials.

(The above are all facts that cannot be disputed.)

[Simps]

I like O&A.

I think they are funny.

Jim Norton is very funny too, in my opinion.

I do not like that the XM subscribers will have to listen to the terrestrial radio commercials.

(The above are all facts that cannot be disputed.)
They did just say that XM listeners wouldn't be getting the CBS commercials.

[Jonny Z]

uhm... again, you're going off point, sir.

you stated that Howard did what Opie claimed nobody does: which is open their mics for the first time at a new job on their start date.

Now you're saying Howard tested his stuff.

Which comment are you standing behind?

if it's the latter, I'm with you.

i was defending his right to put whatever he wants on his own channels before his official launch date after you criticized him for broadcasting dead air.

what are you talking about going off point? you're the one that brought it up.

[Blunt]

ben ben ben... they don;t have stern's job. stern has stern's job. they have dlr's job. They want to be him so so bad. already they're doing tom c. material. they are CLONES!!!


wow... you're demented.

I'd like to argue points with you all day on this subject. I once saw you mention how O&A have their fans write material for them with their phone calls...

yet, HOWARD HAS CALLERS NOW AS WRITERS ON THE SHOW!!!!!

you are seriously demented :mistrust:

[Flonk]

I like O&A.

I think they are funny.

Jim Norton is very funny too, in my opinion.

I do not like that the XM subscribers will have to listen to the terrestrial radio commercials.

(The above are all facts that cannot be disputed.)

During commercials, we'll be getting old bits and stuff on the XM.

[Blunt]

i was defending his right to put whatever he wants on his own channels before his official launch date after you criticized him for broadcasting dead air.

what are you talking about going off point? you're the one that brought it up.
dude, nevermind... you win, okay? :scared:

you obviously aren't getting my point and yours has switched from the first time you made that comment to now. let's move on.

[Jim T.]

wow... you're demented.

I'd like to argue points with you all day on this subject. I once saw you mention how O&A have their fans write material for them with their phone calls...

yet, HOWARD HAS CALLERS NOW AS WRITERS ON THE SHOW!!!!!

you are seriously demented :mistrust:

Uh oh...

[BENDIS!]

wow... you're demented.

I'd like to argue points with you all day on this subject. I once saw you mention how O&A have their fans write material for them with their phone calls...

yet, HOWARD HAS CALLERS NOW AS WRITERS ON THE SHOW!!!!!

you are seriously demented :mistrust:

i see you're new to the board. you can argue all day but insults are verbotten. stop or you're gone.

[ERNIE_E]

I do not like that the XM subscribers will have to listen to the terrestrial radio commercials.

(The above are all facts that cannot be disputed.)

So XM listeners have to listen to the 10-15 minute KROCK commercial breaks during the simulcast??!! They didn't have such large commercial breaks before the deal did they? If that's true, I would be irrate. Shitty deal.

[LazyComix]

I'd just like to point out that yet again, a Stern fan (Bendis, the Stern fan equivalent of Rodger :)) came in just to rain on O&A fans' parade.

The "Welcome Back To Corporate Tit Sucking Parade"?

Who's the Grand Marshall? Michael Powell?

[adamgreenberger]

I like O&A.

I think they are funny.

Jim Norton is very funny too, in my opinion.

I do not like that the XM subscribers will have to listen to the terrestrial radio commercials.

(The above are all facts that cannot be disputed.)

I think something that is getting missed in this is if...I was a XM subscriber I would be pissed that people in 6 cities in the US are getting for free something I am paying for. That's just my opinion.

[Simps]

During commercials, we'll be getting old bits and stuff on the XM.
Hell, I'd love to hear old WNEW stuff. Hearing the bits they played this morning brought back good memories.

[adamgreenberger]

wow... you're demented.

I'd like to argue points with you all day on this subject. I once saw you mention how O&A have their fans write material for them with their phone calls...

yet, HOWARD HAS CALLERS NOW AS WRITERS ON THE SHOW!!!!!

you are seriously demented :mistrust:

You might have just made a mistake Rod...I mean Blunt

[BENDIS!]

yeah, commercials. strern left terrestrial is was up to 22 minutes an hour. so three hour show is already a two hour show.

[Blunt]

i see you're new to the board. you can argue all day but insults are verbotten. stop or you're gone.
demented? I apologize... a mod said "idiots" as a generalizing sweep to all of you stern fans. I didn't realize that what I said was out of line.

but do you have anything to say on the subject I brought to hand?

[Jim T.]

You might have just made a mistake Rod...I mean Blunt

Is that really RODGER? :lol:

[ERNIE_E]

During commercials, we'll be getting old bits and stuff on the XM.


Ahhh. Ok. Wow, I'd-be super pissed if you had to hear those epic commerical breaks. They really do break up the flow of a good show.

Now them airing old bits, isn't this something that Rodger is always pissing on Howard for? How would he spin this as a positive? I kid, I kid...

[adamgreenberger]

During commercials, we'll be getting old bits and stuff on the XM.

So they are going to get almost 15 min of old O&A bits on XM instead of live O&A? How long are their breaks now? I would be so pissed if I was a subscriber.

[Flonk]

yeah, commercials. strern left terrestrial is was up to 22 minutes an hour. so three hour show is already a two hour show.

Thanks to David Lee Roth, there are no ratings, meaning no commercials! :mrgreen:

[adamgreenberger]

So XM listeners have to listen to the 10-15 minute KROCK commercial breaks during the simulcast??!! They didn't have such large commercial breaks before the deal did they? If that's true, I would be irrate. Shitty deal.

I agree

[Blunt]

You might have just made a mistake Rod...I mean Blunt
I'm guessing calling me Rod is either a way to call me out on being a mult or an insult?

I'm not Rod. If it's an insult, then I find it ironic.

Besides, Bendis knows who I am and knows I'm not Rod.

[Simps]

yeah, commercials. strern left terrestrial is was up to 22 minutes an hour. so three hour show is already a two hour show.
And 2 hours on XM. Back to 4 hours.

Hey, believe me, I'd much rather it stayed as it was on XM, especially since the show has gotten so much better the last few months, but I guess the added exposure will be cool. But you're just being (and pardon my language and tone) a Negative Ned.

[Hate_Prime]

I think something that is getting miss in this is if...I was a XM subscriber I would be pissed that people in 6 cities in the US are getting for free something I am paying for. That's just my opinion.

They get 2 hours of exclusive show, though.

[Flonk]

So they are going to get almost 15 min of old O&A bits on XM instead of live O&A? How long are their breaks now? I would be so pissed if I was a subscriber.

Yeah. We'll see on Wednesday (when the show start's officialy).

[BENDIS!]

I'm guessing calling me Rod is either a way to call me out on being a mult or an insult?

I'm not Rod. If it's an insult, then I find it ironic.

Besides, Bendis knows who I am and knows I'm not Rod.

i do?

[Jim T.]

I'm guessing calling me Rod is either a way to call me out on being a mult or an insult?

I'm not Rod. If it's an insult, then I find it ironic.

Besides, Bendis knows who I am and knows I'm not Rod.

Short for Rodger - notorious O&A fan. I'm sure no insult was meant.

[Blunt]

i do?
I supplied you with the new abe vigoda link :grope:

[Flonk]

Now them airing old bits, isn't this something that Rodger is always pissing on Howard for? How would he spin this as a positive? I kid, I kid...

Roger is probably going after Howard because he apparently re-recorded the old bits. Which, if that's true, it's kinda sad that he does that.

[Jim T.]

I'd just like to point out that yet again, a Stern fan (Bendis, the Stern fan equivalent of Rodger :)) came in just to rain on O&A fans' parade.

A valid point but probably unavoidable. For my part, I'll be flipping back and forth from Stern to O&A when they come on. Either way, I'm entertained for my drive in to work.

[BENDIS!]

I supplied you with the new abe vigoda link :grope:


oh yeah! ok...

dude, stop calling me names :)

[Doug]

They did just say that XM listeners wouldn't be getting the CBS commercials.

Nice!!!!

I'm at work so I can't hear their Announcement.

Now I am a very happy boy!

[Blunt]

Short for Rodger - notorious O&A fan. I'm sure no insult was meant.
well, I'm not.

I used to be a huge fan of Stern. But his last year on radio blew in my opinion. And it really just turned me against him.

I also used to listen to O&A on WNEW and was a fan of theirs too.

I just don't see eye to eye with what Stern does these days.

[Jim T.]

well, I'm not.

I used to be a huge fan of Stern. But his last year on radio blew in my opinion. And it really just turned me against him.

I also used to listen to O&A on WNEW and was a fan of theirs too.

I just don't see eye to eye with what Stern does these days.

Welcome to the board - we have one of these threads just about every day now!

[adamgreenberger]

They get 2 hours of exclusive show, though.

Their show is already 5 hours correct? So as a subscriber I am already getting 5 hours of exclusive show...now I get a watered down, FCC friendly show for three hours, and then two hours of the show I paid to hear on XM. I don't see the point of calling the two hours I already get exclusive.

I am a Sirius subscriber...but I don't see how fans of O&A who have XM can be happy with this. People are getting for free what you are paying for. I would want some kind of credit.

[Blunt]

oh yeah! ok...

dude, stop calling me names :)
as I said... I apologized.

did you get on the zombie board? if not, PM bishop on the new Vigoda board.

I'll go a step further, Bendis. I was "A Bendis Fan... Obviously" way back in the day. :sad:

[BENDIS!]

I'd just like to point out that yet again, a Stern fan (Bendis, the Stern fan equivalent of Rodger :)) came in just to rain on O&A fans' parade.

the o and a parade always includes stern bashing.

[adamgreenberger]

Short for Rodger - notorious O&A fan. I'm sure no insult was meant.

It was an attempted as a joke...didn't meant to insult you

[BENDIS!]

Their show is already 5 hours correct? So as a subscriber I am already getting 5 hours of exclusive show...now I get a watered down, FCC friendly show for three hours, and then two hours of the show I paid to hear on XM. I don't see the point of calling the two hours I already get exclusive.

I am a Sirius subscriber...but I don't see how fans of O&A who have XM can be happy with this. People are getting for free what you are paying for. I would want some kind of credit.


EXACTLY!!

[Blunt]

Welcome to the board - we have one of these threads just about every day now!
Not a prob... I won't be joining in every day though. :grope:

[Randy Hassan]

Wait- I am confused.
Are they gonna be on the MORNINGS on WMCX in Cleveland, then again in the afternoon on 92.3?
I think the idea is they don't want to put O&A up against Rover, the guy who's still on the CBS stations in the Midwest. Whatever his numbers are nationally, I guess he still does well in Cleveland.

[Simps]

Their show is already 5 hours correct? So as a subscriber I am already getting 5 hours of exclusive show...now I get a watered down, FCC friendly show for three hours, and then two hours of the show I paid to hear on XM. I don't see the point of calling the two hours I already get exclusive.

I am a Sirius subscriber...but I don't see how fans of O&A who have XM can be happy with this. People are getting for free what you are paying for. I would want some kind of credit.
No, it's 7-11. 4 hours. Man you're jumping all over their asses without even getting facts correct.

[Blunt]

the o and a parade always includes stern bashing.
:cool:

[Simps]

Hahaha, fucking Norton.

Caller: What happened to some of the old characters, Patty I think her name was?

Norton (without missing a beat): She's dead.

[ERNIE_E]

I think something that is getting missed in this is if...I was a XM subscriber I would be pissed that people in 6 cities in the US are getting for free something I am paying for. That's just my opinion.

Yeah, see, the thing that pushed me over to buy satellite radio was that there was something truly exclusive that I couldn't get with regular radio. As much as I would bitch about regular radio, I would have still listened to Stern if that was the only way to get it.

Not sure how I would feel if Howard was simulcast, I know that listening to satellite since September, I'm never going back. I'm a Mike & Mike fan for ESPN radio and when I lived in Cleveland we would only get the first three hours. Now I can get the full 4 hours. I don't even listen to Jim Rome anymore and am praying he eventually goes on Sirius too so I can get him in the rotation.

I'm glad O&A are not here in Detroit. Not that it matters because I don't listen to regular radio. I believe the Howard replacement here is Rover and I've yet to even listen to him one minute. Sirius is a god send, XM is too for those subscribers, and I'm never going back.

[Jim T.]

Not a prob... I won't be joining in every day though. :grope:

It does get exhausting in a circular sort of way.

[Flonk]

Their show is already 5 hours correct? So as a subscriber I am already getting 5 hours of exclusive show...now I get a watered down, FCC friendly show for three hours, and then two hours of the show I paid to hear on XM. I don't see the point of calling the two hours I already get exclusive.

I am a Sirius subscriber...but I don't see how fans of O&A who have XM can be happy with this. People are getting for free what you are paying for. I would want some kind of credit.

4 hour show, plus there was an hour of best of in there (cause Ron and Fez only do 3 hours.)

[adamgreenberger]

Roger is probably going after Howard because he apparently re-recorded the old bits. Which, if that's true, it's kinda sad that he does that.

He re-recorded some bits becasue he coulnd't take them with him...not really that sad since they are popular bits that people loved...he is not really doing it anymore.

[Blunt]

It does get exhausting in a circular sort of way.
I don't mind it... but as I showed in this thread, I can't repeat myself over and over like *some* fans :surrend:

[Flonk]

the o and a parade always includes stern bashing.

And yet in all the O&A threads I'm in, the Stern Fans are the ones who start the fights. :?

[DrMachine]

so for the O&A fans...how's the show today going? are they talking about being on FreeFM?

[Blunt]

He re-recorded some bits becasue he coulnd't take them with him...not really that sad since they are popular bits that people loved...he is not really doing it anymore.
O&A weren't allowed to take their bits either but didn't resort to that...

but they can take them now! :grope:

[adamgreenberger]

well, I'm not.

I used to be a huge fan of Stern. But his last year on radio blew in my opinion. And it really just turned me against him.

I also used to listen to O&A on WNEW and was a fan of theirs too.

I just don't see eye to eye with what Stern does these days.

Have you heard his new show?

Also remember he was getting dumped quite a bit in that last year...not really his fault...blame the FCC.

[ERNIE_E]

Roger is probably going after Howard because he apparently re-recorded the old bits. Which, if that's true, it's kinda sad that he does that.


Well like Ben said up in this thread with O&A airing the older bits, it brought back some good memories. And even listening for 15 years I didn't hear everything (thanks to highschool, college, and work). I enjoyed hearing some of the old bits, even if they were redone. And these are used sometimes to come in and out of commercials.

[adamgreenberger]

EXACTLY!!

Thanks!!

[Blunt]

so for the O&A fans...how's the show today going? are they talking about being on FreeFM?
it's a first show... they're never fun for any show.

It's just them chatting it up about the move, where they've been... all catch up stuff. Nothing to sweat.

[Simps]

so for the O&A fans...how's the show today going? are they talking about being on FreeFM?
Today was an announcement about the whole deal (which is what the past 4 pages of this thread were discussing). Obviously, that will get a good bit of focus for the first couple weeks, but once they've gone through the "catch up old listeneres period" it will pretty much be back to business as usual. Same thing happened when they came to XM.

[adamgreenberger]

I think the idea is they don't want to put O&A up against Rover, the guy who's still on the CBS stations in the Midwest. Whatever his numbers are nationally, I guess he still does well in Cleveland.

He started in Cleveland..accoring to Rodger...so he has a fan base there.

[DrMachine]

O&A weren't allowed to take their bits either but didn't resort to that...

but they can take them now! :grope:

O&A couldn't take their bits because they didn't own the IP

[Flonk]

so for the O&A fans...how's the show today going? are they talking about being on FreeFM?

Eh. It was only an hour and a half, and it was mostly people calling in saying "Welcome back!" The real show doesn't start untill Wednesday, back to the old XM time tomorrow.

[Blunt]

Have you heard his new show?

Also remember he was getting dumped quite a bit in that last year...not really his fault...blame the FCC.
I've tried...

listening to a 50+ year old man being happy with himself for jacking off and bragging about the size of his load and how to make it taste better just isn't something I find appealing. :scared:

I've heard him brag about still being able to get it up.

I've heard him tell every woman that walks through the door how hot she is.

I just don't indentify with him anymore. He doesn't speak my language anymore. Artie is the closest thing to something I could listen to but he has little to no back bone and won't stand up for what he thinks.

And sadly, Sal is the funniest thing to happen to that show.

all my opinions of course.

[Flonk]

Well like Ben said up in this thread with O&A airing the older bits, it brought back some good memories. And even listening for 15 years I didn't hear everything (thanks to highschool, college, and work). I enjoyed hearing some of the old bits, even if they were redone. And these are used sometimes to come in and out of commercials.

Yeah, but if you can't take them with you, come up with some new stuff. O&A play bits before commercials too, but it was new stuff. I have no problem playing the old stuff if you have it. But if you don't, re-doing it comes off as a little pathetic.

[DrMachine]

Today was an announcement about the whole deal (which is what the past 4 pages of this thread were discussing).

no shit sherlock

I'm asking for a rundown of some kind

:lol:

[Hate_Prime]

Their show is already 5 hours correct? So as a subscriber I am already getting 5 hours of exclusive show...now I get a watered down, FCC friendly show for three hours, and then two hours of the show I paid to hear on XM. I don't see the point of calling the two hours I already get exclusive.

I am a Sirius subscriber...but I don't see how fans of O&A who have XM can be happy with this. People are getting for free what you are paying for. I would want some kind of credit.

Actually it was four hours.

Don't get me wrong, I think xm listeners are getting the short end here. They are getting half of the exclusive content that they used to at the same time 3 hours of the watered down (and, lets face it, it's now the "main" part of their show where the guests would probably prefer to be) version that millions of people can get for free.

Opie just made a comment that kinda shat on the xm listeners, actually. He said that the two hours of xm show is basically the cbs show with cursing. So it's no big deal for them to broadcast on cbs. I agree somewhat but that certainly doesn't make it sound like the xm listeners are getting something special. The xm listeners are their biggest fans who payed to listen. Now they get an extra hour (good thing), but three of those hours of it is available for free and not "edgy" (which Opie said wasn't a big deal).

[adamgreenberger]

No, it's 7-11. 4 hours. Man you're jumping all over their asses without even getting facts correct.

According to the press release on the first page of this thread O&A will air on FreeFM from 6am - 9am...then for two "exclusive" hours on XM...so where am I wrong? Either way you are getting watered down, FCC friendly show for three hours, and then two hours of the show you paid to hear on XM. That is not exclusive.

[ERNIE_E]

Yeah, but if you can't take them with you, come up with some new stuff. O&A play bits before commercials too, but it was new stuff. I have no problem playing the old stuff if you have it. But if you don't, re-doing it comes off as a little pathetic.


Again, take it as you like, for me some of the old bits were like new to me because 1) I never heard them the first time around and 2) to hear them uncensored. And for the ones I did hear before, it was still funny to hear them. So while it may seem pathetic to you, I'm glad he and the crew did it.

[Blunt]

Actually it was four hours.

Don't get me wrong, I think xm listeners are getting the short end here. They are getting half of the exclusive content that they used to at the same time 3 hours of the watered down (and, lets face it, it's now the "main" part of their show where the guests would probably prefer to be) version that millions of people can get for free.

Opie just made a comment that kinda shat on the xm listeners, actually. He said that the two hours of xm show is basically the cbs show with cursing. So it's no big deal for them to broadcast on cbs. I agree somewhat but that certainly doesn't make it sound like the xm listeners are getting something special. The xm listeners are their biggest fans who payed to listen. Now they get an extra hour (good thing), but three of those hours of it is available for free and not "edgy" (which Opie said wasn't a big deal).
"XM has half the exclusive content"

I heard Howard say something like that... very close to what you're stating.

Anyway, it would be closer to correct if you stated O&A fans instead of XM. XM (like sirius) has tons of otherstations and material.

it's just them trying to get new subscribers to XM and for CBS it's them trying to get ratings. period.

[Flonk]

According to the press release on the first page of this thread O&A will air on FreeFM from 6am - 9am...then for two "exclusive" hours on XM...so where am I wrong? Either way you are getting watered down, FCC friendly show for three hours, and then two hours of the show you paid to hear on XM. That is not exclusive.


I still got Ron and Fez, I'm happy. O&A were just a nice bonus when I got the XM, no big loss for me.

[adamgreenberger]

but three of those hours of it is available for free and not "edgy" (which Opie said wasn't a big deal).

It is a big deal if the fans that came to XM for them want to hear an edgy show.

[Jim T.]

I can't figure out the benefit to XM. If (and it's a big "if"), O&A can stay on the air and not run afoul of the FCC and the morons running CBS, it seems to me this is more of an eventual transition plan on their part to come back to terrestial radio full time where they can get a wider audience and perhaps more money than what XM's paying. XM's getting an advertising benefit of sorts but I don't see how this will add a substantial number of new subscribers - who's going to sign up just to get an extra 2 hours? If anything, the move seems geared to anger current XM subscribers. Just odd - there must be something more to this that I'm missing.

[adamgreenberger]

"XM has half the exclusive content"

I heard Howard say something like that... very close to what you're stating.

Anyway, it would be closer to correct if you stated O&A fans instead of XM. XM (like sirius) has tons of otherstations and material.

it's just them trying to get new subscribers to XM and for CBS it's them trying to get ratings. period.

I agree with this...but like with Stern there are a lot of people who bought XM for only O&A...and those people are going to be upset that they are paying for something that people are getting for free...if Howard went to a simulcast thing on free radio, I would be pissed to...mainly becasue he was one of the reasons that I got Sirius.

[ERNIE_E]

It is a big deal if the fans that came to XM for them want to hear an edgy show.


Well, hopefully XM has enough to offer besides O&A during those long commercial breaks. I'll tell you with NFL Radio, If Stern retired today I'd still subscribe just for that.

[Dr. Blasphemy]

Here ya go people- Rogers reply (Since he was banned by Polly Power)man, that jealousy is ozzing out of my computer.

1) O&A wants a bigger audience. who can blame them?
2) they already did the free fm once already. do you remember when Freied (sp?) put them on when stern was on vacation? right then, they made comments about coming back to free fm.
3) i was not just repeating cause i have no thoughts of my own......during this free fm thing, i was just copy/pasting info cause no one seemed to know what was going on.
4) what about the direct TV thing? the fans got them back on! man, those 8 fans must have been hitting that redial botton alot......
5) bullshit lies? give me 1 opie b.s. lie

O&A always fail in the end?
millionares, huge nationwide radio show. million of fans....
man, i'd love to fail like they have.....lol

[ERNIE_E]

I can't figure out the benefit to XM. If (and it's a big "if"), O&A can stay on the air and not run afoul of the FCC and the morons running CBS, it seems to me this is more of an eventual transition plan on their part to come back to terrestial radio full time where they can get a wider audience and perhaps more money than what XM's paying. XM's getting an advertising benefit of sorts but I don't see how this will add a substantial number of new subscribers - who's going to sign up just to get an extra 2 hours? If anything, the move seems geared to anger current XM subscribers. Just odd - there must be something more to this that I'm missing.


To XM's credit they do have good ecclectic music programming, and if you're a baseball diehard you can't beat their baseball package. And Cinemagic is a station I want for Sirius. So in respect to all of the O&A threads, there are good things on XM that's worth paying for.

[Blunt]

I agree with this...but like with Stern there are a lot of people who bought XM for only O&A...and those people are going to be upset that they are paying for something that people are getting for free...if Howard went to a simulcast thing on free radio, I would be pissed to...mainly becasue he was one of the reasons that I got Sirius.
I'm not pissed at all...

that might change in the future. I, unlike all Stern fans who can own a Delorean and can see the future but prefer the past, can't see the future.

I'm looking forward to them becoming bigger. And despite how anyone feels about the show... I can't see anyone wishing Anthony to fail. He's likeable!

[Dr. Blasphemy]

To XM's credit they do have good ecclectic music programming, and if you're a baseball diehard you can't beat their baseball package. And Cinemagic is a station I want for Sirius. So in respect to all of the O&A threads, there are good things on XM that's worth paying for.

Dont forget XM has "The Rock Of Jericho"............

(I still aint buying one though...) ;)

[Blunt]

To XM's credit they do have good ecclectic music programming, and if you're a baseball diehard you can't beat their baseball package. And Cinemagic is a station I want for Sirius. So in respect to all of the O&A threads, there are good things on XM that's worth paying for.
I'm a *big* fan of the new Trip-hop station. 84 XM Chill

[adamgreenberger]

Is CBS allowing them to mention XM? Someone who heard them this AM did they mention XM?

[ERNIE_E]

Dont forget XM has "The Rock Of Jericho"............

(I still aint buying one though...) ;)


Yeah no doubt. I think both need to be successful in order to push each other to providing a good product, so I do really wish both services the best. But Baseball & Cinemagic, while they are great and the only things I would want in their service, can't match what I already get with Sirius.

[Hate_Prime]

"XM has half the exclusive content"

I heard Howard say something like that... very close to what you're stating.

So what?


Anyway, it would be closer to correct if you stated O&A fans instead of XM. XM (like sirius) has tons of otherstations and material.

A good point. I sometimes think of O&A as xm's Howard Stern it terms of them being the flagship big-draw personalities (which they're not).


it's just them trying to get new subscribers to XM and for CBS it's them trying to get ratings. period.

I somewhat agree. More XM listeners takes away from CBS rating though.

[ERNIE_E]

I'm a *big* fan of the new Trip-hop station. 84 XM Chill


Yeah, I hear that's a good station and is probably an answer to Sirius Chill 35 which was something I would read XM subscribers wanting, an ambient electronic station. I love Sirius 35 Chill, the best music to do work/artwork/write to.

[Blunt]

Is CBS allowing them to mention XM? Someone who heard them this AM did they mention XM?
yes... and before you say it. It's not the same thing as what Howard is being sued for.

[Hate_Prime]

It is a big deal if the fans that came to XM for them want to hear an edgy show.

That's why I said Opie kinda shat on the XM o&a fans.

[adamgreenberger]

yes... and before you say it. It's not the same thing as what Howard is being sued for.

No it's not since CBS is paying O&A...but it might help him a bit in the lawsuit.

[ERNIE_E]

I somewhat agree. More XM listeners takes away from CBS rating though.

And this is how the lawsuit against howard will be thrown out. There's no way they can make a case if they bring in talent that are hoping to bring their audience to the rival satellite service.

[Blunt]

So what?



A good point. I sometimes think of O&A as xm's Howard Stern it terms of them being the flagship big-draw personalities (which they're not).



I somewhat agree. More XM listeners takes away from CBS rating though.

Well, let's face it... if Howard listeners weren't going to follow *him* those same listeners aren't going to follow someone else.

So the likelyhood of a HUGE dropout of CBS' ratings to XM is unlikely. But they will get some subscribers out of it. They get a bigger audience name. XM is happy, CBS is happy, O&A are happy... for now O&A fans are and hopefully will continue to be so in the future and for as long as this lasts.

O&A are the big "talk" show on XM. They are the "stern" of that system... but no, the system doesn't revolve around them the way it does around Howard. Let's face it, they'll never be as big as Howard once was.... but neither will Howard.

[Jonny Z]

dude, nevermind... you win, okay? :scared:

you obviously aren't getting my point and yours has switched from the first time you made that comment to now. let's move on.

I've made what i think is my point repeatedly. you are the one who keeps twisting my argument while trying to gain the upper hand in this. I stand by what I said and don't care what you think.

I have no problems with O&A like other stern fans do. I just don't dig them and when I heard Opie or Anthony claim that they were doing something thats never been done before, I called them out on it.

Plain truth is that they went on today unannounced (maybe it was announced minutes before they went live, but thats still unannounced in my book) and did their little test run, same as stern did. then they claimed it was never done before, broadcasting a test run on air. i called bullshit. get over it.

[Blunt]

No it's not since CBS is paying O&A...but it might help him a bit in the lawsuit.
I don't see how.

"your honor, they *hired* XM talent with the knowledge that they would mention XM radio... Howard was CBS' talent and talked about leaving them for a year and pushed his listeners to buy Sirius and he had hidden stock options that gave him millions for it."

I don't see how it will help him... but whatever... either way, I don't see a dollar. :cry:

[KingMob]

the announcement is as follows: o and a completely sell out thier audience and back peddle all of the bullshit about being satelite pioneers by gleefully chopping thier own material up to a company that sandbagged them in the first place.

six months from now when cbs buckles to religious group pressures and retreats to rock formats o and a ill spin this again and blame howard and everyone else.

o and a always fail in the end.


god damn, no wonder there are a bunch of Howie marks on the board. :lol:

[Blunt]

Yeah, I hear that's a good station and is probably an answer to Sirius Chill 35 which was something I would read XM subscribers wanting, an ambient electronic station. I love Sirius 35 Chill, the best music to do work/artwork/write to.
probably the same exact thing. That's cool... if it's the same stuff that's awesome. I dig that kind of music for the same reasons.

[Blunt]

I stand by what I said and don't care what you think.
cool... we agree... move along now.

[Simps]

According to the press release on the first page of this thread O&A will air on FreeFM from 6am - 9am...then for two "exclusive" hours on XM...so where am I wrong? Either way you are getting watered down, FCC friendly show for three hours, and then two hours of the show you paid to hear on XM. That is not exclusive.
You said it USED to be 5 hours on XM only, now it's going down to 4. Other way round, and with commercials, it will stay at about 4 hours under the new system.

[Blunt]

Hmmm... did Bendis quit this thread? I wanted an answer to having callers as writers now! :(

[Bill?]

I can't figure out the benefit to XM. If (and it's a big "if"), O&A can stay on the air and not run afoul of the FCC and the morons running CBS, it seems to me this is more of an eventual transition plan on their part to come back to terrestial radio full time where they can get a wider audience and perhaps more money than what XM's paying. XM's getting an advertising benefit of sorts but I don't see how this will add a substantial number of new subscribers - who's going to sign up just to get an extra 2 hours? If anything, the move seems geared to anger current XM subscribers. Just odd - there must be something more to this that I'm missing.

in addition to the advertsing benefit, XM has to be getting paid somehow by CBS.

Opie and Anthony have gone from having to pay extra for it, to giving it away for nothing. and their fans keep trying to convince everyone it's a good thing they've gone crawling back to the very company they've railed against for years to do a water down and censor their show during drive time. not to mention the 20 minutes or so of ads an hour. what a couple of sell-outs.

[Simps]

Plain truth is that they went on today unannounced (maybe it was announced minutes before they went live, but thats still unannounced in my book) and did their little test run, same as stern did. then they claimed it was never done before, broadcasting a test run on air. i called bullshit. get over it.
It was a joke, guy. Man, listening to Stern must have really dulled those humour receptors. ;)

[adamgreenberger]

I don't see how.

"your honor, they *hired* XM talent with the knowledge that they would mention XM radio... Howard was CBS' talent and talked about leaving them for a year and pushed his listeners to buy Sirius and he had hidden stock options that gave him millions for it."

I don't see how it will help him... but whatever... either way, I don't see a dollar. :cry:

There was no hidden stock options...that is what CBS thinks...Howard and others have said on may occasions that his stock options were public knowledge.

He never mentioned Sirius by name...and CBS could have stopped him from talking about the move anytime they wanted...they were his bosses, and they didn't.

[ERNIE_E]

Well, let's face it... if Howard listeners weren't going to follow *him* those same listeners aren't going to follow someone else.

So the likelyhood of a HUGE dropout of CBS' ratings to XM is unlikely. But they will get some subscribers out of it. They get a bigger audience name. XM is happy, CBS is happy, O&A are happy... for now O&A fans are and hopefully will continue to be so in the future and for as long as this lasts.

O&A are the big "talk" show on XM. They are the "stern" of that system... but no, the system doesn't revolve around them the way it does around Howard. Let's face it, they'll never be as big as Howard once was.... but neither will Howard.


And I do wish them well. I have never listened to them, because I'm honestly happy with what I listen to, and I've learned over the last year that there's just no trying to change a diehard in either camp. But CBS Radio is a really messed up company these days. THe speed at which they dropped DLR is pretty scary, and I'm sure the leash will be longer in the vein of Rover, but who knows what their plan is.

On a creative level, I would want as much freedom as possible. Not having to censor yourself when you are just acting natural really has improved the Stern show for a longtime listener like me. The flow of the show is more organic. Even though he may never reach the listeners #'s he once did, I wouldn't go back having tasted this. And ultimately he might see numbers like he once did as long as Sirius as a company continues to put out other good product and programming that will keep that company healthy and that's Howard's new goal, to play his part in keeping Sirius healthy and draw people in.

I can imagine that was a draw for O&A too, but an offer like this is sweet for O&A (who were not bring in people to XM by themselves--hence this deal) and they will get the apathetic radio listeners who could care less about the quality of radio, they just want something to listen to on their morning drive, but I think their overall product will suffer in the end by being in this format.

[adamgreenberger]

Hmmm... did Bendis quit this thread? I wanted an answer to having callers as writers now! :(

He only has one former caller as a employee...Sal. Unless you are talking about Richard...he won a contest for a job.

[Jonny Z]

It was a joke, guy. Man, listening to Stern must have really dulled those humour receptors. ;)

yeah, but they spent the whole 2 hours today just ridiculing stern as if he cared. i would listen to O&A if they didnt insist on doing that every time i tuned in.

what were they talking about when they were referring to "Howie Baseball?"

[Hate_Prime]

I don't see how.

"your honor, they *hired* XM talent with the knowledge that they would mention XM radio... Howard was CBS' talent and talked about leaving them for a year and pushed his listeners to buy Sirius and he had hidden stock options that gave him millions for it."

I don't see how it will help him... but whatever... either way, I don't see a dollar. :cry:

"And Howard was given permission to do so."

[Blunt]

in addition to the advertsing benefit, XM has to be getting paid somehow by CBS.

Opie and Anthony have gone from having to pay extra for it, to giving it away for nothing. and their fans keep trying to convince everyone it's a good thing they've gone crawling back to the very company they've railed against for years to do a water down and censor their show during drive time. not to mention the 20 minutes or so of ads an hour. what a couple of sell-outs.and the people that hate them do the same thing in reverse...

when you paid extra it was "they dont trust them, they aren't good enough to be on regular XM!"

then when they did drop the extra 2 bucks a month it was "hah hah! they didn't have enough people paying the two bucks!" (even though that makes no sense)

and now that they are back on free radio it's "sell out"

correct me if I'm wrong... Bendis hs a book titled "sell out" due to people with this mentality, correct?

Those kind of "haters" as it were just did a 180 on their original thought of "they don't trust them"

eh... it's radio. You and I don't make a thing off of it. For fans of O&A it's a great thing. Move on and quit trying to piss on them and tell them it's raining.

[ERNIE_E]

in addition to the advertsing benefit, XM has to be getting paid somehow by CBS.

Opie and Anthony have gone from having to pay extra for it, to giving it away for nothing. and their fans keep trying to convince everyone it's a good thing they've gone crawling back to the very company they've railed against for years to do a water down and censor their show during drive time. not to mention the 20 minutes or so of ads an hour. what a couple of sell-outs.

You know it's funny for XM to be supported by CBS radio on some level which is an infinity broadcasting company, and they already have a Clear Channel as a minority shareholder, and owns 4 stations airing commercials. This is not a direction I would like my paid service going to. Get the big companies involved who were responsible for destroying regular radio is not what I want out of satellite radio.

[Blunt]

There was no hidden stock options...that is what CBS thinks...Howard and others have said on may occasions that his stock options were public knowledge.

He never mentioned Sirius by name...and CBS could have stopped him from talking about the move anytime they wanted...they were his bosses, and they didn't.
dunno... they told him to stop talking about it. he pushed and pushed... the way he *used* to do against the FCC back in the "good ole days"

it's up to the courts... I doubt they'll be scouring this board for my thoughts.

[Flonk]

Is CBS allowing them to mention XM? Someone who heard them this AM did they mention XM?

It would be hard for them not to, seeing as how the show is on XM.

[Blunt]

And I do wish them well. I have never listened to them, because I'm honestly happy with what I listen to, and I've learned over the last year that there's just no trying to change a diehard in either camp. But CBS Radio is a really messed up company these days. THe speed at which they dropped DLR is pretty scary, and I'm sure the leash will be longer in the vein of Rover, but who knows what their plan is.

On a creative level, I would want as much freedom as possible. Not having to censor yourself when you are just acting natural really has improved the Stern show for a longtime listener like me. The flow of the show is more organic. Even though he may never reach the listeners #'s he once did, I wouldn't go back having tasted this. And ultimately he might see numbers like he once did as long as Sirius as a company continues to put out other good product and programming that will keep that company healthy and that's Howard's new goal, to play his part in keeping Sirius healthy and draw people in.

I can imagine that was a draw for O&A too, but an offer like this is sweet for O&A (who were not bring in people to XM by themselves--hence this deal) and they will get the apathetic radio listeners who could care less about the quality of radio, they just want something to listen to on their morning drive, but I think their overall product will suffer in the end by being in this format.

there is no doubt Howard is doing exactly the kind of radio his fans want... Howard 24 hours a day. a show about the show. a show for the their fans. a show about the show about their fans. a show about the show about the show about the show about the... you get the idea.

O&A goof on that. I think it's great that he knows what his fans want to listen to... I'm not one of them anymore it seems... and that's fine.

But O&A don't have to censor themselves... not all day. Just for the time they're on regular radio. You remember the hype Howard would do to try and get his fanbase to sign up? They even pulled the plug on the "confessions" because it was so blatant... well, imagine O&A doing that with "we'll be doing this later today"

I'm not saying droves of fans will sign up to XM. But some will.

[Blunt]

You know it's funny for XM to be supported by CBS radio on some level which is an infinity broadcasting company, and they already have a Clear Channel as a minority shareholder, and owns 4 stations airing commercials. This is not a direction I would like my paid service going to. Get the big companies involved who were responsible for destroying regular radio is not what I want out of satellite radio.
don't "big companies" own cable channels?

it didn't seem to hurt them at all.

[Jonny Z]

It would be hard for them not to, seeing as how the show is on XM.

they should start referring to XM as "Ugh Ugh Ehh"

OH!

http://www.comedy-zone.net/images/people/comedians/clay-andrew-dice.jpg

[adamgreenberger]

It would be hard for them not to, seeing as how the show is on XM.

That is the whole point of the lawsuit against Howard...they didn't want him to mention where he was going becasue it is competition...thatis why I asked.

[adamgreenberger]

dunno... they told him to stop talking about it. he pushed and pushed... the way he *used* to do against the FCC back in the "good ole days"

it's up to the courts... I doubt they'll be scouring this board for my thoughts.

They didn't ask him because they were rolling in the money during that last year from advertising...and once he was gone all that cash dried up and they needed to "find" a reason to sue him.

[Bill?]

and the people that hate them do the same thing in reverse...

when you paid extra it was "they dont trust them, they aren't good enough to be on regular XM!"

then when they did drop the extra 2 bucks a month it was "hah hah! they didn't have enough people paying the two bucks!" (even though that makes no sense)

and now that they are back on free radio it's "sell out"

correct me if I'm wrong... Bendis hs a book titled "sell out" due to people with this mentality, correct?

Those kind of "haters" as it were just did a 180 on their original thought of "they don't trust them"

eh... it's radio. You and I don't make a thing off of it. For fans of O&A it's a great thing. Move on and quit trying to piss on them and tell them it's raining.

I really have no idea what you're trying to say here.
but tell me how is it a great thing to have opie and anthony back on regular radio? where where they won't be able to say or do anything edgy or it'll get dumped? how is it better for them to have almost 20 minutes of commercials? yeah, this might be a great moive for their back accounts, but this is a shitty move for their show and for their fans. even the casual interest I had in their show is gone.

[Blunt]

He only has one former caller as a employee...Sal. Unless you are talking about Richard...he won a contest for a job.
well, actually this is directed at Bendis for making the statement that O&A rely on their callers for material... I find it ironic due to the fact that Howard has *plenty* of listeners (callers) as people supplying *him* with material.

But I'll take your challenge...

Sal, check

Richard? How long was that "contest's" contract for? Not as long as he's been a member of the show... in other words, he's a caller... on the payroll. check

Dan the Song Parody Man... a caller that used to send in bits... on the pay roll, check.

Artie, used to be a listener back in the day... check.

the show is littered with them. I just found Bendis' statement of O&A relying on callers to be silly. All radio stations rely on callers... listeners.

I dunno... to each their own.

[Flonk]

That is the whole point of the lawsuit against Howard...they didn't want him to mention where he was going becasue it is competition...thatis why I asked.

But it's not competition. It's a partnership. O&A are on both CBS and XM. Howard is only on Sirius, therefore he is promoting the competitor. Ron and Fez never mentioned XM or anything when they left terrestial. Howard basicaly turned his show into a Sirius infomercial.

[Jonny Z]

well, actually this is directed at Bendis for making the statement that O&A rely on their callers for material... I find it ironic due to the fact that Howard has *plenty* of listeners (callers) as people supplying *him* with material.

But I'll take your challenge...

Sal, check

Richard? How long was that "contest's" contract for? Not as long as he's been a member of the show... in other words, he's a caller... on the payroll. check

Dan the Song Parody Man... a caller that used to send in bits... on the pay roll, check.

Artie, used to be a listener back in the day... check.

the show is littered with them. I just found Bendis' statement of O&A relying on callers to be silly. All radio stations rely on callers... listeners.

I dunno... to each their own.

haha jesus christ man- how can you use Artie in your argument? you started to make valid points and then you fudged up your whole argument by including Artie. Sure he was a listener, but he was a well established entertainer by the time he made it on to the show. he was even a guest on the show years before he was hired. You are trying way to hard to bash stern dude.

[Blunt]

I really have no idea what you're trying to say here.
but tell me how is it a great thing to have opie and anthony back on regular radio? where where they won't be able to say or do anything edgy or it'll get dumped? how is it better for them to have almost 20 minutes of commercials? yeah, this might be a great moive for their back accounts, but this is a shitty move for their show and for their fans. even the casual interest I had in their show is gone.
commercials on free radio doesn't equal commercials on XM... you want more show? buy XM... you don't? keep listening for free and eat the commercials.

if you wanna argue the commercial thing, argue with Howard's 2/3rds of the audience that didn't follow him and instead chose to continue listening to commercials.

they get a bigger audience. period.

I don't see how it's a bad thing...

[adamgreenberger]

well, actually this is directed at Bendis for making the statement that O&A rely on their callers for material... I find it ironic due to the fact that Howard has *plenty* of listeners (callers) as people supplying *him* with material.

But I'll take your challenge...

Sal, check

Richard? How long was that "contest's" contract for? Not as long as he's been a member of the show... in other words, he's a caller... on the payroll. check

Dan the Song Parody Man... a caller that used to send in bits... on the pay roll, check.

Artie, used to be a listener back in the day... check.

the show is littered with them. I just found Bendis' statement of O&A relying on callers to be silly. All radio stations rely on callers... listeners.

I dunno... to each their own.

You can't call Richard a caller...he won a contest was wa hired but Howard...and Howard kept him on...not sure if there was a contract or not.

And Artie is a comedian...just becasue he was a listener you can't label him a caller...he had done a lot of other things in the entertainment field before he got hired by Howard.

[ERNIE_E]

don't "big companies" own cable channels?

it didn't seem to hurt them at all.


Actually it has. The original allure of cable TV back in the day was movies with no commercials or just TV in general without commercials. Now look at it. Tons of commercials and INFOMERCIALS! I'm sorry but you should never have to pay for TV and have that on your broadcasts. Now you have to pay a premium price on top of your already expensive cable package just to get uncut movies too. I know you had to do it with HBO all along and Showtime etc. but I always understood the original intent of cable tv as programming without TV.

Cable's a laughable product these days, especially what you pay for. I know people paying on average $50 for cable TV, and up to $80-100 a month! It's just not worth it to me. I haven't watched cable TV for the last 8 years. If I really want something on cable, I wait for the DVD.

[Jonny Z]

commercials on free radio doesn't equal commercials on XM... you want more show? buy XM... you don't? keep listening for free and eat the commercials.

if you wanna argue the commercial thing, argue with Howard's 2/3rds of the audience that didn't follow him and instead chose to continue listening to commercials.

they get a bigger audience. period.

I don't see how it's a bad thing...

while 2/3rds of howards audience didnt follow, think of the people who WEREN'T in his audience because they lived out of market and are able to follow him now. :shrug:

[Flonk]

Actually it has. The original allure of cable TV back in the day was movies with no commercials or just TV in general without commercials. Now look at it. Tons of commercials and INFOMERCIALS! I'm sorry but you should never have to pay for TV and have that on your broadcasts. Now you have to pay a premium price on top of your already expensive cable package just to get uncut movies too. I know you had to do it with HBO all along and Showtime etc. but I always understood the original intent of cable tv as programming without TV.

Cable's a laughable product these days, especially what you pay for. I know people paying on average $50 for cable TV, and up to $80-100 a month! It's just not worth it to me. I haven't watched cable TV for the last 8 years. If I really want something on cable, I wait for the DVD.

HBO is owned by AOL/Time Warner, it's still the best channel on TV. Your argument is flawed.

[Blunt]

haha jesus christ man- how can you use Artie in your argument? you started to make valid points and then you fudged up your whole argument by including Artie. Sure he was a listener, but he was a well established entertainer by the time he made it on to the show. he was even a guest on the show years before he was hired. You are trying way to hard to bash stern dude.
I don't think I'm bashing stern at all... and it doesn't negate my argument at all. He *was* a listener... but then again, everyoone was back when it was good... so I guess I should just get the little flag waving smiley, fella. :surrend: '

there ya go, you win again! you rule at this! I made no vaild points because everyone listened to Howard back when he was good...

sal, dan, richard... if I think harder there will be more...

yet, O&A don't have a listener on the payroll... they call in and say lines or jokes and hang up. That happens on every show. The statement made by Bendis, again was what I was referring to...

[adamgreenberger]

But it's not competition. It's a partnership. O&A are on both CBS and XM. Howard is only on Sirius, therefore he is promoting the competitor. Ron and Fez never mentioned XM or anything when they left terrestial. Howard basicaly turned his show into a Sirius infomercial.

And they could have stopped him at anytime...suspend him, fire him...and they did suspend him one time during that last year.

[Bill?]

But it's not competition. It's a partnership. O&A are on both CBS and XM. Howard is only on Sirius, therefore he is promoting the competitor. Ron and Fez never mentioned XM or anything when they left terrestial. Howard basicaly turned his show into a Sirius infomercial.


CBS is going to have problems with their lawsuit because supposedly they sat down and worked out just what he could say and what he couldn't before hand. and by the end they had him on almost 10 minutes of delay, so they could have dumped him any time he started talking about something they didn't want him to. also those two execs actually came in during his last week and congratulated him and mentioned Sirius by name (something howard couldn't do himself) and said they'd bought it.
Howard's only problem is they apparently did warn him a couple of times, and they did suspend him once for promoting something that was forthcoming on his Sirius channel.
but if Stern's lawers are even halfway decent, they'll probably still either get it thrown out or settled for next to nothing.

[Blunt]

HBO is owned by AOL/Time Warner, it's still the best channel on TV. Your argument is flawed.
flawed as it may be... my cable bill is too high also!

[ERNIE_E]

But it's not competition. It's a partnership. O&A are on both CBS and XM. Howard is only on Sirius, therefore he is promoting the competitor. Ron and Fez never mentioned XM or anything when they left terrestial. Howard basicaly turned his show into a Sirius infomercial.


Which they never stopped him from doing except for one day when he was suspended. They even went on his airwaves to say that they bought Sirius receivers and will listen to him when he makes the move. He then went on Letterman, CBS TV, and allowed him to say pro Sirius stuff there too.

[Jonny Z]

I don't think I'm bashing stern at all... and it doesn't negate my argument at all. He *was* a listener... but then again, everyoone was back when it was good... so I guess I should just get the little flag waving smiley, fella. :surrend: '

there ya go, you win again! you rule at this! I made no vaild points because everyone listened to Howard back when he was good...

sal, dan, richard... if I think harder there will be more...

yet, O&A don't have a listener on the payroll... they call in and say lines or jokes and hang up. That happens on every show. The statement made by Bendis, again was what I was referring to...

if you wanna have a private chat with bendis, you can always PM him. but if you're gonna make statements in a thread, then anyone has free reign to respond to what you say.

and your whole "flag waving, you win again!" thing is not endearing.

[Blunt]

Which they never stopped him from doing except for one day when he was suspended. They even went on his airwaves to say that they bought Sirius receivers and will listen to him when he makes the move. He then went on Letterman, CBS TV, and allowed him to say pro Sirius stuff there too.
everyone that goes on Letterman is hocking stuff

[Blunt]

if you wanna have a private chat with bendis, you can always PM him. but if you're gonna make statements in a thread, then anyone has free reign to respond to what you say.

and your whole "flag waving, you win again!" thing is not endearing.
you're free to respond, where did I say you couldn't? But endearing or not, I'm allowed to respond how I wish also... :surrend:

[Bill?]

commercials on free radio doesn't equal commercials on XM... you want more show? buy XM... you don't? keep listening for free and eat the commercials.

yeah we'll see what happens.



if you wanna argue the commercial thing, argue with Howard's 2/3rds of the audience that didn't follow him and instead chose to continue listening to commercials.

they get a bigger audience. period.

I don't see how it's a bad thing...

ha! I love how opie and anthony fans have to turn it back in on howard all the time.

[Blunt]

yeah we'll see what happens.



ha! I love how opie and anthony fans have to turn it back in on howard all the time.exactly... wait and see.

uhm... correct me if I'm wrong, this started because Howard fans came into this thread and trampled it. and my point remains... there's a large audience Howard left behind to be grabbed

[Flonk]

ha! I love how opie and anthony fans have to turn it back in on howard all the time.

Read the thread. You guys are the ones who brought up Howard.

[Simps]

Whoever was complaining the other day about Bendis not posting anymore really only needs to start a pro-O&A thread, and wherever he is, Bendis knows about it, and comes running (bicycling?) to Howard's defense.

[Bill?]

Read the thread. You guys are the ones who brought up Howard.

you guys? I'm only one guy and I sure didn't!

[Jim T.]

Whoever was complaining the other day about Bendis not posting anymore really only needs to start a pro-O&A thread, and wherever he is, Bendis knows about it, and comes running (bicycling?) to Howard's defense.

That was me! I was actually being sarcastic in light of the 2 days that had gone by since he posted - though Bendis did come running over to say "blow me"!

[Bill?]

exactly... wait and see.

uhm... correct me if I'm wrong, this started because Howard fans came into this thread and trampled it. and my point remains... there's a large audience Howard left behind to be grabbed

yeah, and I'm sure Opie and Anthony with their new watered down, ad filled show are the guys to do it!
ha!

[ERNIE_E]

HBO is owned by AOL/Time Warner, it's still the best channel on TV. Your argument is flawed.


But Cable TV as a whole for what you're paying for? People complain all the time, "I am paying for all of these stations but can never find anything to watch."

So if your basic cable package is $40 and you're paying an additional $10 for HBO and is the biggest reason you're buying cable, you're essentially paying $50 for HBO. Sorry, I'd rather wait for the DVDs to come out of the actual shows I want. Or, I'll just copy DVDs I get from the library, better yet. AOL/Time Warner gets my money then in the end, but they're not going to get it monthly.

If Cable TV were $10 a month with all of those damn commercials and INFOMERCIALS, then I'd say Cable might be worth the money. But in its current structure, I'd say it's shit.

[Blunt]

You can't call Richard a caller...he won a contest was wa hired but Howard...and Howard kept him on...not sure if there was a contract or not.

And Artie is a comedian...just becasue he was a listener you can't label him a caller...he had done a lot of other things in the entertainment field before he got hired by Howard.
caller... you're right. again, stand corrected. a listener, however, I can call him (artie). He knows more about the show than anyone on the staff simply because he listened as a worker on the docks. He's a fan of the show. A listener.

Sal contributed bits. Dan constibuted bits. Richard contributed bits.

All as listeners... and now all on the payroll.

[Ryan_ZOOM_Turner]

flawed as it may be... my cable bill is too high also!
that isn't because of HBO, it mainly has to do with ESPN.

[Blunt]

yeah, and I'm sure Opie and Anthony with their new watered down, ad filled show are the guys to do it!
ha!
eh, as you said, wait and see

[Jim T.]

yeah, and I'm sure Opie and Anthony with their new watered down, ad filled show are the guys to do it!
ha!

They are, actually. O&A, even watered down, will undoubtedly pull better ratings than David Lee Roth did. I don't see them hitting the old Stern levels but at this point, better than Roth is a big plus for CBS.

[Blunt]

Whoever was complaining the other day about Bendis not posting anymore really only needs to start a pro-O&A thread, and wherever he is, Bendis knows about it, and comes running (bicycling?) to Howard's defense.
:lol:

I like you

[ERNIE_E]

everyone that goes on Letterman is hocking stuff


But they knew he was going to be promoting Sirius stuff on CBS airwaves. How can they say that they didn't have opportunities to silence him. They helped him do it!

[Blunt]

They are, actually. O&A, even watered down, will undoubtedly pull better ratings than David Lee Roth did. I don't see them hitting the old Stern levels but at this point, better than Roth is a big plus for CBS.
everything else on the radio is "watered down" also... so it's about what is the best "watered down" show to gather the audience... jeepers, I wonder who that could be? :grope:

[Blunt]

But they knew he was going to be promoting Sirius stuff on CBS airwaves. How can they say that they didn't have opportunities to silence him. They helped him do it!
I don't think they're suing him over the Letterman appearance.

[ERNIE_E]

flawed as it may be... my cable bill is too high also!


Honestly if you break down how much time a month you actually sit down to watch TV vs. how much you pay out, it's not a bargain. I'd rather put it in satellite radio which is 1/3 the price, I can do other things while I'm listnening and there's more on it that I enjoy. I have it on average 8 hours a day. I also save on buying CDs and music because everythinig I would want to listen to is packaged in. I feel my money is maximized than with Cable TV.

[ERNIE_E]

I don't think they're suing him over the Letterman appearance.


No. They're not, but what I'm saying is that they can't say that they were helpless in silencing him. They could have taken him off the radio at any time. But they knew he was bringing in advertising money so they kept him on. Either you want him on or you don't. Add to it that they allowed him to speak pro-Sirius and Anti-CBS on CBS airwaves shows that they don't know what they want. They want to eat their cake and have it too.

[Blunt]

Honestly if you break down how much time a month you actually sit down to watch TV vs. how much you pay out, it's not a bargain. I'd rather put it in satellite radio which is 1/3 the price, I can do other things while I'm listnening and there's more on it that I enjoy. I have it on average 8 hours a day. I also save on buying CDs and music because everythinig I would want to listen to is packaged in. I feel my money is maximized than with Cable TV.
I actually watch a *lot* less tv than I used to... I don't think I watch 5 hours a week.

you're right I should get rid of it... except my wife watches it! which means, we're keeping it. :cry:

[ERNIE_E]

I actually watch a *lot* less tv than I used to... I don't think I watch 5 hours a week.

you're right I should get rid of it... except my wife watches it! which means, we're keeping it. :cry:


My wife and I talked and said, look we are lucky if we watch 10 hours of TV.

(We have a lot of DVDs for our TV time) and if we got cable tv for let's say, the NFL ticket, I'd still only be able to watch 1 game at a time, maybe 2-3 with a new TV that does picture-in-picture or pay for another signal to split it to other TVs. And that's just not worth $120+, those Ticket packages are ridiculous!

I listen to more games than I can, I can tune into Cleveland Cavs games living in Detroit, and do my work (writing/graphic design) and school while I listen.

I would have bought the satellite radio regardless, so if I did have Sirius and Cable, when would I really find time to do both where I feel like I'm getting my money's worth.

My wife just gets angry that I get to listen to it and she has to fight for it. :D

[Blunt]

No. They're not, but what I'm saying is that they can't say that they were helpless in silencing him. They could have taken him off the radio at any time. But they knew he was bringing in advertising money so they kept him on. Either you want him on or you don't. Add to it that they allowed him to speak pro-Sirius and Anti-CBS on CBS airwaves shows that they don't know what they want. They want to eat their cake and have it too.
oh, no... I totally get your argument... I'm just acting as I imagine a lawyer would. That "letterman" thing would be thrown out... or not even mentioned.

Look, I was a Howard fan until his final year on radio... he became a hype machine. He chased me away from his show by constantly bitching and complaining and not *doing* an entertaining show. Literally for an hour in the AM he'd sit there and talk about Sirius and how when he got there, we should ll follow because *there* he was going to do entertaining stuff. But meanwhile, I'm listening to an infomercial... it was horrible. I quit listening.

I tried his first week out on Sirius... it was more of the same. I gave that up.

I tried listening about a week ago... he chatted it up about being able to get aroused and wack his bag, what it tasted like, how big it was... the guy is my father's age... I can't imagine my father acting this way...

I don't find that entertaining anymore, if I ever did.

I *never* liked the stripper and whore angle he had. It's radio! I don't care about a bitch and what she looks like! Entertain me.

O&A take care of that for me. They talk about things I can get behind... including but not limited to Stern Bashing.

[Blunt]

This post was not a good idea. -A

[KingMob]

i see you're new to the board. you can argue all day but insults are verbotten. stop or you're gone.

I think I'm insulted by how fast this thread went down the shitter on this, a big day for the boys. :lol:

[adamgreenberger]

I don't think they're suing him over the Letterman appearance.

Exactly...they allowed him on their other airwaves as an employee to promote the move...Letterman and 60 minutes.

[Simps]

Exactly...they allowed him on their other airwaves as an employee to promote the move...Letterman and 60 minutes.
But those are both there as promotional tools, and it wasn't as an employee, it was as a guest/feature. His show was not supposed to be that, but he turned it into a big promotion machine. I'm assuming that's what the basis of their case is. They're saying "Yeah, he was on promoting the move on our other venues at acceptable times, but it got to the point where it was too much on the radio, especially when he's being paid to do the radio show."

[Simps]

Yay, XM's site is giving them some front page action...

http://benjamin.engagedhost.com/images/O&Axmsite.jpg

Now we just need a NOT awful website for the b-b-b-boys.

[AAlgar]

6AM to noon, eh? That messes up my Ron and Fez schedule. :x

[markhow]

Plain truth is that they went on today unannounced (maybe it was announced minutes before they went live, but thats still unannounced in my book) and did their little test run, same as stern did. then they claimed it was never done before, broadcasting a test run on air. i called bullshit. get over it.


Since you have a problem with O and A saying things like this do you also have a problem with Stern making bullshit claims too?

He has made bullshit claims like:

He invented MTV unplugged

He was the first radio hoast to have artists come in to a radio studio and play accoustically

He was the first radio host to feature lesbians

He invented the TV Show The Osbourns

He invented reality TV.


Opie said something in the heat of the moment at an exciting time for him, its not like it was some big claim.

I was a Stern zombie once too, I know your mindset when it comes to Howard. But the good news is that you can change, just give in to the O and A virus and your Zonbie condition will vanish and you will be free once again.


Peace,
Mark

[KingMob]

Since you have a problem with O and A saying things like this do you also have a problem with Stern making bullshit claims too?

He has made bullshit claims like:

He invented MTV unplugged

He was the first radio hoast to have artists come in to a radio studio and play accoustically

He was the first radio host to feature lesbians

He invented the TV Show The Osbourns

He invented reality TV.


Opie said something in the heat of the moment at an exciting time for him, its not like it was some big claim.

I was a Stern zombie once too, I know your mindset when it comes to Howard. But the good news is that you can change, just give in to the O and A virus and your Zonbie condition will vanish and you will be free once again.


Peace,
Mark

you forgot how the idea for the Chris Rock sitcom was really Howies life growing up and how that was stolen from him as well.

or how he claimed that Ant was "stealing his voice"

[Ben]

What does Stern making bullshit claims have anything to do with O&A being full of shit? Does it make them less full of shit? Can you actually have a discussion about O&A without bringing up Stern? This inferiority complex O&A fans have is getting very, very tired.

[Simps]

What does Stern making bullshit claims have anything to do with O&A being full of shit? Does it make them less full of shit? Can you actually have a discussion about O&A without bringing up Stern? This inferiority complex O&A fans have is getting very, very tired.
Tell that to the Stern people who come in and continue to say how O&A live in Stern's shadow. Read the thread before bringing up the same old tired arguments.

[KingMob]

Tell that to the Stern people who come in and continue to say how O&A live in Stern's shadow. Read the thread before bringing up the same old tired arguments.

I was just going to hoo hoo that one, but you do it so much better by using actual words.

[Doug]

I haven't heard them say that they were testing the new equipment, and that they were the first to do so, but I'm willing to bet that when they said it their tongues were planted firmly in their cheeks. They know what Howie did, and when they said that it was a dig at Howard. That is all.

[Ben]

Tell that to the Stern people who come in and continue to say how O&A live in Stern's shadow. Read the thread before bringing up the same old tired arguments.
Read the rantings of O&A fans? Sorry, I was too busy EATING MY OWN POOP!!!

[markhow]

What does Stern making bullshit claims have anything to do with O&A being full of shit? Does it make them less full of shit? Can you actually have a discussion about O&A without bringing up Stern? This inferiority complex O&A fans have is getting very, very tired.


Nothing. I was just posting because I wanted to know if all you Stern fans, who have a problems with O and A's so called bullshit claims, have a problem with the super bullshit claims of Howie, like the claims I wrote in my prior post.
O and A have made BS claims in the past, but nothing like saying that they invented reality TV.

Peace,
Mark

[Ben]

Al Gore invented the internet. Oh wait...

[Simps]

Read the rantings of O&A fans? Sorry, I was too busy EATING MY OWN POOP!!!
Yes, much easier to be snarky than realize you're wrong.

[Ben]

Yes, much easier to be snarky than realize you're wrong.

What do you think snarkiness means!?

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i171/thedailynow/drool_jackoff.gif

[DrMachine]

you forgot how the idea for the Chris Rock sitcom was really Howies life growing up and how that was stolen from him as well.

or how he claimed that Ant was "stealing his voice"

how can you be so blind to the truth!!!?!?!???

:-x

[ThePunnishherrr!]

You guys suck.

[DrMachine]

You guys suck.

oh noes

I think we've been pestified

:lol:

[ThePunnishherrr!]

oh noes

I think we've been pestified

:lol:

The O&A people too, silly.

You're having serious arguments about wacky radio shows and the guys who put them on.

Yech.

[DrMachine]

The O&A people too, silly.

You're having serious arguments about wacky radio shows and the guys who put them on.

Yech.

that's the fun of it, you fan the flames and then watch it burn

[Jim T.]

It occurred to me just now that if I had XM largely for O&A, I'd be really pissed off at this. For me, I largely got Sirius because I wanted to listen to Stern - I listen from around 7:15 to 8 every day. If I catch replays at lunch or on the way home, fine - that's a bonus.

If you now told me that that the 45 minutes or so that I listen to can now be had for free on WYSP, I'd drop the Sirius - it would no longer have the value to me of being the only place to get Stern on my drive in. The fact that O&A do 2 hours uncensored later in the day wouldn't matter to me - I don't listen during that time slot and, unless the replay matched up with my regular drive home (5:45 or so) I still wouldn't be able to hear it.

I don't think this is an atypical listening situation - most listeners aren't, I would think, listening to all 4/5 hours - they're listening to a portion of it and it's the same portion every day. Yes? No?

[Flonk]

But they knew he was going to be promoting Sirius stuff on CBS airwaves. How can they say that they didn't have opportunities to silence him. They helped him do it!

The Letterman argument is a bad one. If someone is out promoting a Warner Brothers movie, that is competion with Paramount, owned by Viacom who also owns CBS.

[Flonk]

No. They're not, but what I'm saying is that they can't say that they were helpless in silencing him. They could have taken him off the radio at any time. But they knew he was bringing in advertising money so they kept him on. Either you want him on or you don't. Add to it that they allowed him to speak pro-Sirius and Anti-CBS on CBS airwaves shows that they don't know what they want. They want to eat their cake and have it too.

I'm not gonna argue that the lawsuit is stupid, I'm just showing what their train of thought might be.

[Doug]

It occurred to me just now that if I had XM largely for O&A, I'd be really pissed off at this. For me, I largely got Sirius because I wanted to listen to Stern - I listen from around 7:15 to 8 every day. If I catch replays at lunch or on the way home, fine - that's a bonus.

If you now told me that that the 45 minutes or so that I listen to can now be had for free on WYSP, I'd drop the Sirius - it would no longer have the value to me of being the only place to get Stern on my drive in. The fact that O&A do 2 hours uncensored later in the day wouldn't matter to me - I don't listen during that time slot and, unless the replay matched up with my regular drive home (5:45 or so) I still wouldn't be able to hear it.

I don't think this is an atypical listening situation - most listeners aren't, I would think, listening to all 4/5 hours - they're listening to a portion of it and it's the same portion every day. Yes? No?

I was pissed at first, but I thought about it. Right now I listen to two of the 4 hours every day. 7-8am on my drive to work and then 5-6pm (replay of the 9-10am portion of the show). So as long as they replay the show throughout the day like they have been I'll still hear the 7-8 hour and then I'll hear the replay of the last simulcast hour on the way home (and can then listen to the XM only portion as I'm cooking dinner).

[Doug]

To add to my post above:

While I mainly bought my XM for O&A, I have found a bunch of different music channels that I love (won't listen to the regular radio anymore), and they are the home of MLB (so when I'm traveling I'll be able to listen to Yankee games).

[Flonk]

What does Stern making bullshit claims have anything to do with O&A being full of shit? Does it make them less full of shit? Can you actually have a discussion about O&A without bringing up Stern? This inferiority complex O&A fans have is getting very, very tired.

READ THE THREAD!!!!111


Stern fans are the ones that started this. :x

[Flonk]

The O&A people too, of course.

You're having serious arguments about wacky radio shows and the guys who put them on.

Yech.


Every once in a while we get bored talking about men in colorful tights punching each other.

[Ben]

READ THE THREAD!!!!111


Stern fans are the ones that started this. :x
READ THE THREAD!!!!111


People already ate my ass out for that comment. :-x

Nice name, FLONK!!!!!!1

[Flonk]

READ THE THREAD!!!!111


People already ate my ass out for that comment. :-x

Nice name, FLONK!!!!!!1

You also were like the 8th person to say "O&A fans always have to bash Howard!" Every single O&A thread I see, Howard fans are the ones starting the fights. It gets old after a while.

[Ben]

You also were like the 8th person to say "O&A fans always have to bash Howard!" Every single O&A thread I see, Howard fans are the ones starting the fights. It gets old after a while.

Ooooh, Ron and Fez are so great!! I love them so much!! OOH, I want to hug and kiss them!

That's what YOU SOUND LIKE, FLONK!! AND it'S GONe on TOTO LONG!!!!!!

[LazyComix]

You also were like the 8th person to say "O&A fans always have to bash Howard!" Every single O&A thread I see, Howard fans are the ones starting the fights. It gets old after a while.

Ya know what else gets old? O&A's show.