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Brad N.
02-25-2006, 01:08 PM
Here's a fun article from the Washington Monthly addressing just that...

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_02/008296.php

HEROISM....Over at The Corner, Warren Bell calls for Hollywood to make more movies about "the heroism of American troops in Afghanistan and Iraq." In particular, he'd like to see someone make a movie about the death of football star Pat Tillman, who left his lucrative civilian career to join the Army in 2002 and was killed in Afghanistan 2004. So, courtesy of Robert Collier of the San Francisco Chronicle, here's the story:

Tillman’s death came at a sensitive time for the Bush administration — just a week before the Army’s abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib in Iraq became public and sparked a huge scandal. The Pentagon immediately announced that Tillman had died heroically in combat with the enemy, and President Bush hailed him as “an inspiration on and off the football field, as with all who made the ultimate sacrifice in the war on terror.”....Not until five weeks later, as Tillman’s battalion was returning home, did officials inform the public and the Tillman family that he had been killed by his fellow soldiers.

....Mary Tillman believes that with her son’s high profile, and the fact that Rumsfeld sent him a personal letter, the word [that Pat had been killed by friendly fire] quickly reached the defense secretary. “If Pat was on Rumsfeld’s radar, it’s pretty likely that he would have been informed right away after he was killed,” she said.

....“The administration clearly was using this case for its own political reasons,” said the father, Patrick Tillman. “This cover-up started within minutes of Pat’s death, and it started at high levels. This is not something that (lower-ranking) people in the field do,” he said.

....Tillman’s unique character...was more complex than the public image of a gung-ho patriotic warrior....Mary Tillman said a friend of Pat’s even arranged a private meeting with [Noam] Chomsky, the antiwar author, to take place after his return from Afghanistan — a meeting prevented by his death. She said that although he supported the Afghan war, believing it justified by the Sept. 11 attacks, “Pat was very critical of the whole Iraq war.”

....“I can see it like a movie screen,” [Spc. Russell] Baer said....“We were at an old air base, me, Kevin and Pat, we weren’t in the fight right then. We were talking. And Pat said, ‘You know, this war is so f— illegal.’ And we all said, ‘Yeah.’ That’s who he was. He totally was against Bush.”

Another soldier in the platoon, who asked not to be identified, said Pat urged him to vote for Bush’s Democratic opponent in the 2004 election, Sen. John Kerry.

Let's recap: Tillman, a genuine hero who wanted to go to Afghanistan to fight al-Qaeda, was instead sent initially to Iraq to fight in a war he thought was stupid and illegal. On the big screen, this would play out as a symbol of George Bush's feckless attitude toward Osama bin Laden that practically kicks you in the face. What's more, Tillman's death didn't come during combat, but instead was the result of an enormous fuckup by our own troops. His parents are convinced — not without reason — that the Army tried to cover this up, and that the Bush administration then spent five weeks touting a phony version of what happened in order to help their political cause during an election year. To cap it all off, his friends say Tillman blamed Bush for the mess in Iraq and supported John Kerry in the 2004 election.

Sounds like an Oliver Stone picture to me. Informed about all this, Bell says defensively that he never asked for "a whitewash of history" and would of course be fine with a movie that told the whole story, warts and all. "Why," he asks, "are e-mailers of liberal sensibility so quick to assume I (and by extension the Right in general) would only accept one-sided propaganda?"

Indeed. What would ever have given us that idea?

—Kevin Drum 2:57 PM

So, if you had to cast the role of a true American Hero who dropped an NFL career to fight in Afghanistan only to literally have his head blown off by his fellow soldiers and have our government cover it up who would you choose to play him? I really can't think of an actor off the top of my head other than the obvious Hollywood choice of say Keanu Reeves. Thoughts?

MattJohnson
02-25-2006, 01:16 PM
A documentary or something would be interesting, but I don't think I'd want to watch a biopic with an actor playing him.

Ray G.
02-25-2006, 02:13 PM
Nah. I'm tired of real-life tragedies becoming movie fodder.

WinterRose
02-25-2006, 02:55 PM
I'd see a Patricia Tallman movie. She is still teh hawtness.

http://www.celebritypicturesarchive.com/pictures/p/patricia-tallman/patricia-tallman-002.jpg

http://www.goldkanal.de/pictures/personen/babylon5/char12_1.jpg

http://www.goldkanal.de/pictures/personen/babylon5/patdsn.jpg

http://szilu.revai.hu/sci-fi_series/Patricia_Tallman/lyta_04.jpg

http://szilu.revai.hu/sci-fi_series/Patricia_Tallman/lyta_05.jpg

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ERNIE_E
02-25-2006, 03:03 PM
Heck yeah, I'd go see a Tillman movie! Why not? Why are we afraid to show movies that show another side of the story going on there? More so a documentary rather a hollywood-ized version of his story, but I'm willing to see it as long as there is nothing held back.

ihategravity
02-25-2006, 03:33 PM
No. Just as much as I'd like to see ANY other soldier's movie that died. He was no more heroic than any of the rest of them. He made a choice that he felt was right.

VKValentine
02-25-2006, 04:14 PM
Ted Rall will go to it for a good laugh. :)

NickT
02-25-2006, 04:23 PM
Movies based on heroism? Sure. Movies based on specific real people? I dunno. Have there been any truly great stories?

schmoops
11-08-2007, 09:35 PM
Vito Mortensen would be perfect.

dasNdanger
11-08-2007, 09:43 PM
Nah. I'm tired of real-life tragedies becoming movie fodder.


I agree. I would hate to see a 'Pat Tillman Story' type movie....HOWEVER....

I would NOT mind seeing an 'AFTERMATH' story...one that starts with his death and does NOT focus on him personally, but instead focuses on the coverup, and the effect the whole thing had on the men in his unit and on those who were actually responsible for his death. In other words, show what war REALLY does to people...especially the lying, deceiving politicians and their cohorts.

das

bradical
11-08-2007, 09:43 PM
his story is a great american story, but no. the facts of his death and it's reporting/coverup/etc are so scrambled right now, i don't think a movie coulsd do justice to the man.

RickLM
11-08-2007, 09:47 PM
A movie on the whole Tillman case would be fascinating. It serves as a metaphor for military adventures that were sold one way to the public but the reality is quite different.

XXXenophile
11-08-2007, 10:51 PM
A Pat Tillman movie would be the biggest grossing movie the state of Arizona could ever produce.

We'd go see it repeatedly for weeks alone out here.

Albert
11-08-2007, 10:54 PM
A Pat Tillman movie would be the biggest grossing movie the state of Arizona could ever produce.

We'd go see it repeatedly for weeks alone out here.

What about a biopic of your life?

WillieLee
11-08-2007, 10:55 PM
Only if there was a car chase.

Mike
11-09-2007, 03:34 AM
Yes - if it was a comedy.

DanLTaylor
11-09-2007, 08:09 AM
Think I'd pass.

JHickman
11-09-2007, 08:12 AM
If I was scab-paid to write... absolutely.

Marc Lombardi
11-09-2007, 08:14 AM
It would be interesting. Have it written & directed by Oliver Stone and get Henry Rollins to play Tillman (they even look alike)
http://www.dvmx.com/pat_tillman_lg.jpghttp://www.360drive.com/images/rollins_narrowweb__300x389,0.jpg

Colby
11-09-2007, 08:49 AM
As with just about everything else, it would completely depend on who's involved in the picture.

Brad N.
11-09-2007, 09:38 AM
Wow, I don't even remember making this thread. Who the hell dug this one up?

XXXenophile
11-09-2007, 09:53 AM
What about a biopic of your life?

LOL I'd be shocked if my mother went to see that picture.

Badger
12-29-2009, 12:27 PM
A movie on the whole Tillman case would be fascinating. It serves as a metaphor for military adventures that were sold one way to the public but the reality is quite different.

There is a documentary that is making its debut at the Sundance Film Festival in January 2010. The film is produced by Amir Bar-lev and it has been selected as a finalist in the Domestic Film Documentary category:

http://sundance.bside.com/2010/films/thetillmanstory_sundance2010

MIKE D
06-22-2010, 08:55 AM
Trailer:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/06/21/movie-trailer-the-tillman-story/

WillieLee
06-22-2010, 09:22 AM
Is there a car chase?