Spider-Man's new costume revealed by Marvel!

[adventure metal]

http://www.marvel.com/publishing/stories/showstory.htm?id=67

Yikes is all i can say.

Oh, and the story better be amazing, cause this no longer even looks like a spidey I want to read about.

[RODGER]

ouch....

doesn't look good....

[nihilance]

Holy blech.

[Eric Dashen]

My goodness. That does not look appealing to me at all. Why give him a new design when the old one is still awesome!

[matthew spatola]

Dear God! It's basically the black costume design with a different color scheme, this time Tony Stark's red/gold. Kinda horrible. they must be switching bacj to the regular one soon because I don't see them using this crap for the movie.

[Jew Mafia]

ugh, bring back the black.

[who cares?]

dude, what the FUCK?

[Captain Nate]

I don't believe it...It can't be this bad.

But it still looks like he'll use his old one in Marvel Knights & FNSM

[GelfXIII]

Wow. that's... pretty damn ugly.

[King of Mars]

Good God. The suit design actually looks okay but that color scheme is ghastly.

[Generic Poster]

That's not true!

That's impossible!

Let me again plug my belief that his costume should be the same as the original one, except that the blue portions should be black.

[Jim.]

I don't get it at all.

I kinda sorta smell a fake though. That sketch is....kinda rough. Although it is a sketch...I don't fucking know, don't ask me.

[Criden]

Who's Spidey's "same color scheme" villain referred to in the article?

[Jew Mafia]

this better be another one of those swerves ala the phoenix cover. why reveal the costume now before the book comes out?

[Joe Henderson]

And what's with the crappy drawing? Why on earth would you unveil a new costume with such a disappointing piece of art?

[Cth]

Well, at least we have confirmation that Tony's back on the sauce again.

Maybe his drunken binge will lead to an intervention in Illuminati resulting in a Civil War ;)

[A.Huerta]

And what's with the crappy drawing? Why on earth would you unveil a new costume with such a disappointing piece of art?

It's called a concept sketch. And I think Peter and Tony are getting it on.:scared:

[adventure metal]

I don't get it at all.

I kinda sorta smell a fake though. That sketch is....kinda rough. Although it is a sketch...I don't fucking know, don't ask me.


That was my first thought too, a red herring.


also,
What's with the Krusty the Clown feet?

[J. R. Scherer]

My bet is that this will be a temporary costume designed to fill a specific story need kind of like when Captain America was using an armored suit.

[Criden]

Um...if Peter's in debt to Tony...why doesn't he just give him the costume back? These are superheroes...not the mob.

[Garra]

As bad as the color scheme is, and lets face it its bad.

The idea of SPider Man having high tech gadgets worries me more.

I dont mind entertaining a new costume. But the idea that SPider Man would use someone elses colors is absurd. I could imagine a color change based off of his experiences as of late, trying to go with something more primal maybe I dunno. But to go with Iron Mans colors requires no imagination.

I guess Stark is Peters pimp daddy now eh. :Oops:

[adventure metal]

Who's Spidey's "same color scheme" villain referred to in the article?

Shocker?

[Cth]

Spider-flash, Spider-flash.. does whatever a..

.. no wait, I messed that up.

[adventure metal]

My bet is that this will be a temporary costume designed to fill a specific story need kind of like when Captain America was using an armored suit.

Or like Spider-Armor, Web of Spiderman 100?

[ChrisCollins]

Good God. The suit design actually looks okay but that color scheme is ghastly.

I agree. Just because its from Tony doesn't mean it has to be red and gold.

[Criden]

Shocker?

Oh. That's not a big Spidey villain. He's a doof we haven't seen in ages.

[Dannñ B]

I think it looks cool.

[Niall]

:scared: its like spider-armour all over again. This has to be a joke, an Evil Marvel Joke:twisted:

[Cth]

And yeah, it's definitely concept.. look at his left arm.. the Wonder Woman bracelet thing.. compare it to the right one.. one is a bracelet, one's an arm bracer.

Still, cringe-worthy as is. Guess we'll have to wait til we get more info.

And just cause no one's linked it yet..

http://www.marvel.com/publishing/stories/ironspidey/lrg_ironspidey_001.jpg

[Joe Henderson]

It's called a concept sketch. And I think Peter and Tony are getting it on.:scared:

I get that, but with something like this, you'd think they'd unveil the new costume with a shot that really wowed the reader. I'm inclined to think it's a fake.

[NickT]

I like the sound of the story. But that involves reading, not bitching ;)

[A.Huerta]

:scared: its like spider-armour all over again. This has to be a joke, an Evil Marvel Joke:twisted:

I doubt its like the Spider-Amor, more like the Batman Beyond suit probably.

[Bill?]

My bet is that this will be a temporary costume designed to fill a specific story need kind of like when Captain America was using an armored suit.

bigno. there's no way they'll have him in such a different costume for very long either. not when Spiderman 3 is due out.

[d.j.]

Oh Jesus... I know this isn't permanent or anything, but it's as bad as Electric Superman and Knightfall Batman (also designed by Joey Q. I just remembered). Maybe it'll fit the storyline, but from what I've read about "The Other"-- what's going on here? Seems like some serious steps backward. 90's multiple covers and new costumes and all that. Crap. The original's cool, and I also love the B&W one, but this? THIS??? Hmph.

[Donal DeLay]

Won't last.

I promise.

Why? Because Spider-man is an icon, and changing a money-making icon is a bad business decision.

I give it a year, max.

[Bill?]

I doubt its like the Spider-Amor, more like the Batman Beyond suit probably.

the Spider-Armor, by the way.
http://www.alaph.com/spiderman/pictures/suits/armor.jpg

[NickT]

bigno. there's no way they'll have him in such a different costume for very long either. not when Spiderman 3 is due out.
Well, the text that accompanies it pretty much says this :)

[Dannñ B]

I think it looks cool. Not really. I think it looks like something a 13 year old draws thinking it's really bad ass. But it actually sucks hard.

[Niall]

I get that, but with something like this, you'd think they'd unveil the new costume with a shot that really wowed the reader. I'm inclined to think it's a fake.

I honestly think its a fake, just an attempt to get the internet talking and more people to buy the book.

[Bill?]

Well, the text that accompanies it pretty much says this :)

why do people keep expecting me to actually read things! :o

[Olivier E.]

:rofl:

[who cares?]

does this mean the Internet is going to crack in half now?

i mean, this news story should be just enough to do it..............

[Joe Henderson]

I like the sound of the story. But that involves reading, not bitching ;)

I've got to say, I do like the growing relationship between Peter and Tony, and having a conflict between the two of them be a lynchpin for a lot of things happening in the Marvel U.

[Scottie]

Somehow I doubt this is permenant.

[TIP]

Well, at least we have confirmation that Tony's back on the sauce again.

Maybe his drunken binge will lead to an intervention in Illuminati resulting in a Civil War ;)

:lol:

T

[Mister Mets]

bad bad idea. That's all I'll say. (And I actually liked most of the Other.)

This costume has to live up to the original costume, and the alien costume, probably the two best superhero costumes ever, and it just doesn't do that.

I really hope that it's temporary.

[Raphael J]

For some reason, I thought of this when I saw it.

http://www.storyboardpro.com/smuchar00.jpg

[Niall]

I doubt its like the Spider-Amor, more like the Batman Beyond suit probably.

yeah but honestly just look at it, its completly pointless, imagine if they just decided that spidey should wear a Captain America costume

[Criden]

It's going to look even worse when Ron Garney is drawing it...anyone see his Green Arrow work? Here's hoping it looks nothing like that.

[Smokinblues]

I don't get it. It's like new coke, only ten times worse a decision. I can't believe that any rational person looked at this costume, or for that matter the events of "the other" and thought they were good ideas. I think I just threw up a little.

[Mr. E!]

If it was done in red and blue, I think I'd like it more. But then, I really liked the clone-saga costume with the web shooters on the outside(not with the hoodie), too. And I loved the black costume...
http://www.intuitivewebdesigns.com/comics/graphics/spiderman/newspid.jpg

[Simps]

:lol:

Good one, I guess they're waiting for the actual book to come out to show the real costume.

[Captain Nate]

http://epguides.com/SpidermanUnlimited/cast.jpg

[Simps]

Also, why the hell would there be musculature if it's an iron suit?

[Captain Nate]

Also, why the hell would there be musculature if it's an iron suit?

Iron Man's suits always have human-like look to them.

It could be a nano-suit, like in Spider-Man unlimited.

http://www.meteorcity.net/images/spidey/mc_anim_spidey4.gif

That's what the whole idea reminds me of.

[J. R. Scherer]

Also, why the hell would there be musculature if it's an iron suit?
'Cuz Stark's armored suits have been form-fitting since the '60s. Where've YOU been?

[Mark Mavro (kryptic6)]

The FUCK is this? You're telling me they're going to go from red and blue to red and yellow? What's with the goddamn clown shoes? I call bullshit.
BTW, I was totally open to the idea of the new costume. But that is UGLY.

[Simps]

'Cuz Stark's armored suits have been form-fitting since the '60s. Where've YOU been?

Nothing Stark has ever worn was skintight like that.

[Bill?]

Iron-man, Iron-man, does whatever an Iron can...
(http://new.wavlist.com/movies/045/bio-spiderman.wav)

[BronxRonin]

(Looks arounds and ducks his head)
Looks ok!
I'm sure its temporary not too bad.

[Ray G.]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

GODFUCKINGDAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, according to the next issue of FNSM, which I read in first looks.....
Peter's wrist-stingers are his new power

and

His old skin gets consumed by spiders, and becomes his new arch-nemesis. Repeat, his own corpse, covered with spiders, is his new arch-nemesis.

[Tyeron]

i'm putting in my vote for

they'll change this before everyone starts bitching more

if they don't.. they'll end up losing readers.. and then change it to something atleast more appealing.. yeah joe is off his nut on this one

[Brad Gullickson]

616 Spider Man is at an all time low. If it's not Ultimate Spidey than I don't want anything to do with it.

[Mark Mavro (kryptic6)]

Here's the thing about those wrist stingers: they're creepy as hell and pretty fucking disgusting. The webbing is super cool, especially before they became organic because it was this cool contraption that everybody invisioned themselves wearing. But those stingers? What if he accidently impales someone?


Anyway, I'm aware I'm jumping the gun. I'm sure the costume is all just a part of Civil War and will be gone at some point after. I do like someone's suggestion about replacing the blue in his costume with black. Although, while that would look cool, red andblue are his colors.

[J. R. Scherer]

Nothing Stark has ever worn was skintight like that.
Whatever.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/42856589026.47.GIF

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/42856589026.152.GIF

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/42856589026.222.GIF

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/42856589026.234.GIF

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/42856589026.300.GIF

[NATE!]

It's called a concept sketch. And I think Peter and Tony are getting it on.:scared:

BUTTSEX0RZ?? :scared:

[Randomus]

I guess it could be worse. I'll have to see a fully fleshed out picture.

[Smokinblues]

I guess it could be worse. I'll have to see a fully fleshed out picture.

the only way any of this could possibly be worse is if ben reilly were involved. we are approaching clone saga bad here. it's amazing to me that this is even happening.

[Victor Cabanelas]

Whoever thought that redesigning Spidey´s costume againwas a good idea should burn in Hell.

I´m glad I ain´t reading new comics these days

[Captain Nate]

616 Spider Man is at an all time low. If it's not Ultimate Spidey than I don't want anything to do with it.

For all the criticisms the "NuMarvel" regime made about their predecessors, the current creators have managed to place Spidey at a level worse than the clone saga because there seem to be NO redeeming qualities of this story. At least Ben Reilly was cool.

[Horizon Drive]

Is this Spider-Man Other thing complicated or is it that I don't give a shit. I read the last issue and went to read it again, but then I figured it was all goobleygook and didn't bother. So far this is going as well as the clone saga.

Oh yeah and the costume is horrible.

[xyzzy]

For all the criticisms the "NuMarvel" regime made about their predecessors, the current creators have managed to place Spidey at a level worse than the clone saga because there seem to be NO redeeming qualities of this story. At least Ben Reilly was cool.

I don't read any of the solo Spidey books, but I love him in New Avengers.

[Angel of Distraction]

I refuse to beleive it.

[J. R. Scherer]

Remember when Thor had to wear armor way back when?

That's what this is with Spidey.

http://www.immortalthor.net/thor-378.jpg

And those were some damned cool Thor comics back then, too.

[Angel of Distraction]

Remember when Thor had to wear armor way back when?

That's what this is with Spidey.

http://www.immortalthor.net/thor-378.jpg

And those were some damned cool Thor comics back then, too.

That's a Hell of a lot better than this costume though.

[Brad Gullickson]

For all the criticisms the "NuMarvel" regime made about their predecessors, the current creators have managed to place Spidey at a level worse than the clone saga because there seem to be NO redeeming qualities of this story. At least Ben Reilly was cool.

Oh, I definitely think that The Other is just as bad as the clone saga. If I didn't have Ultimate Spidey than I might have to slit my wrists.

[The Zevad]

http://www.marvel.com/publishing/stories/ironspidey/lrg_ironspidey_001.jpg

I dunno. I kinda like it. I'm not digging the Uncle Scrooge gold spats there though. Get rid of those. The red and gold doesn't bug me that much. But yeah I could see a change of color scheme would be a way to go.

[xyzzy]

That's a Hell of a lot better than this costume though.

At least wait until you see the final version before you start bitching.

[Pat Shatner]

Hey!
HEY!

Quit dragging Ben Reilly into this! Its not his fault!

Poor guy...*sniffle*

[Angel of Distraction]

At least wait until you see the final version before you start bitching.

No.

[TheKraken]

That's a Hell of a lot better than this costume though.

Still looks like Thor, for one thing.

The Other made me drop ASM for the first time since I was in 4th grade. This costume will help keep it off my pull list...

[J. R. Scherer]

At least wait until you see the final version before you start bitching.
That's part of my point. This concept sketch doesn't excite me much, but the actual comic and the reasons behind the new suit might.

[Angel of Distraction]

Still looks like Thor, for one thing.

The Other made me drop ASM for the first time since I was in 4th grade. This costume will help keep it off my pull list...

I didn't bother with the Other at all. A little birdy told me Spidey was leaking oil three lanes wide and I stayed away.

[Briomega]

I dunno. I kinda like it. I'm not digging the Uncle Scrooge gold spats there though. Get rid of those. The red and gold doesn't bug me that much. But yeah I could see a change of color scheme would be a way to go.

I agree. It's not all that bad, except the color scheme. And it does make sense in terms of what's happened to him that he'd want some extra protection.

[TheKraken]

I didn't bother with the Other at all. A little birdy told me Spidey was leaking oil three lanes wide and I stayed away.


Same here. I could tell it would suck before it came out... mostly because it claimed it was going to radically change a character that wasn't broken.

[S!]

i dont like it. and i doubt it'll be around as long like the black costume was.

[Angel of Distraction]

Same here. I could tell it would suck before it came out... mostly because it claimed it was going to radically change a character that wasn't broken.

This is my puzzlement as well. Achtung! Spidey is just perfect, until you try to fix him.

[Smokinblues]

Same here. I could tell it would suck before it came out... mostly because it claimed it was going to radically change a character that wasn't broken.

exactly. hell i even gave the other 3 issues, but when nothing was happening I couldn't take it anymore.

and the things that happened after I dropped it just confirmed that it was the right choice.

I'm all for new stories and hell even changes if they make things better. Nothing about anything they're doing the last few months make any sense at all. They're not good for the character, brand, anything.

[Horizon Drive]

While I liked JMS in the beginning, the mystical quality he brings to Spider-Man is really out of place. This whole arachnid archetype totem has not enhanced the character at all.

[S!]

While I liked JMS in the beginning, the mystical quality he brings to Spider-Man is really out of place. This whole arachnid archetype totem has not enhanced the character at all.

i must admit i did like it the early JMS mystical stuff on ASM but i guess i'll take a break from spidey and see what happens.

where's ben reily when you need him! :D

[moonspider]

:shock:



:dead:

[Horizon Drive]

i must admit i did like it the early JMS mystical stuff on ASM but i guess i'll take a break from spidey and see what happens.

where's ben reily when you need him! :D

I liked the early JMS mystical stuff in the beginning too.

[A.Huerta]

You know, i dont think this has anything to do with making Spider-man a better character. The people at Marvel just LOVE messing with characters for no appearant good reason, and then after all the sucky sucky has happened, they go back to the ORIGINAL characters traits. They do it because they can.

[J. R. Scherer]

You know, i dont think this has anything to do with making Spider-man a better character. The people at Marvel just LOVE messing with characters for no appearant good reason, and then after all the sucky sucky has happened, they go back to the ORIGINAL characters traits. They do it because they can.
DUH.

[A.Huerta]

I just felt like venting.

[alexlannin]

Won't last, every picture of Spidey all over the websites the original costume.

[TheKraken]

i must admit i did like it the early JMS mystical stuff on ASM but i guess i'll take a break from spidey and see what happens.

where's ben reily when you need him! :D

Rotting in shitty idea hell where this costume should be...

[Thudpucker]

This will soon join 'Superman Blue' and 'Armored Daredevil' in the hall of fame for bad ideas. Wow.

[Ray G.]

So, no comments on the fact that Spider-man's new arch-enemy is apparently.....his own corpse?

[Smokinblues]

i must admit i did like it the early JMS mystical stuff on ASM but i guess i'll take a break from spidey and see what happens.

where's ben reily when you need him! :D

ben reilly would only be the last nail in the spidey coffin.

[Horizon Drive]

I didn't want to spoil it and was too lazy to hide it. In a way it reminds me of the clone saga.

[A.Huerta]

Rotting in shitty idea hell where this costume should be...

I rather have Marvel make new "Spideys" then keep fucking with Parker.

[Smokinblues]

So, no comments on the fact that Spider-man's new arch-enemy is apparently.....his own corpse?

i'm just hoping to god it's not true.

[The Zevad]

For some reason, I thought of this when I saw it.

http://www.storyboardpro.com/smuchar00.jpg

I loved that show. I realized when I just started looking at cartoons as an alternate reality that wasn't obligated to the the comic canon I loved these shows even more. I dug how they used the scientist aspect of Peter Parker more in that show and that he stole the nanites from Reed Richards...I think....man I wish that show was on DVD and mabye a direct to DVD conclusion to that show. It ended on a cliffhanger! UGH!

[Criden]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

GODFUCKINGDAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, according to the next issue of FNSM, which I read in first looks.....
Peter's wrist-stingers are his new power

and

His old skin gets consumed by spiders, and becomes his new arch-nemesis. Repeat, his own corpse, covered with spiders, is his new arch-nemesis.

Oh, both of those are pretty much exactly as I predicted, if true. I'll feel smart if you're right.

[J. R. Scherer]

So now Spidey has bone claws, just like Wolverine!!!11

KEWL!!!!!111

[Cth]

Getting awfully crowded in those wrists :)

[NickT]

So now Spidey has bone claws, just like Wolverine!!!11

KEWL!!!!!111
He has a stinger, not a claw :)

[Greenville 90210]

Who's Spidey's "same color scheme" villain referred to in the article?

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/h/hulkhogan2/13.jpg

He's turning heel again, brother!

[Smokinblues]

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/h/hulkhogan2/13.jpg

He's turning heel again, brother!

that would make as much sense as anything else they're doing. might as well make it a farce as much as they're shitting on everything already

[J. R. Scherer]

He has a stinger, not a claw :)
Oh-so-much "kewler".

[Cth]

Remember when Thor had to wear armor way back when?

That's what this is with Spidey.

And those were some damned cool Thor comics back then, too.

With luck, they'll have Spidey grow a beard too and have it stick out the bottom of his mask :D

Beards = cool.

Hulk -> Maestro
Thor -> Non-Wussy Thor
Aquadork -> PAD Aquaman King of the Seas

[Greenville 90210]

I really hate when comic companies say "oh yeah? we'll show you our top characters aren't safe- we'll change them forever in this big EVENT comic!!!" and then sooner than later say "back to the classic, cause you demanded it!" Or they just quietly change it all back and hope no one that isn't already going to buy every issue automatically notices...

[Smokinblues]

I really hate when comic companies say "oh yeah? we'll show you our top characters aren't safe- we'll change them forever in this big EVENT comic!!!" and then sooner than later say "back to the classic, cause you demanded it!" Or they just quietly change it all back and hope no one that isn't already going to buy every issue automatically notices...

if they don't undo all this crap it will be tragic

[Criden]

A picture can say a lot:

http://www.samruby.com/OneShots/Large/101Ways.JPG

[moonspider]

:dead:

[Shwicaz]

So, no comments on the fact that Spider-man's new arch-enemy is apparently.....his own corpse?


well, since the book doesn't come out till next wednesday, it is tough to comment on, unless you get a look at your shop's sneak peeks.

I will comment on it next week, when everyone has read it.

[Captain Nate]

Oh, I definitely think that The Other is just as bad as the clone saga. If I didn't have Ultimate Spidey than I might have to slit my wrists.

The Other is worse. I actually rank the Clone Saga higher because some cool things came out of it.

[NATE!]

The Other is worse. I actually rank the Clone Saga higher because some cool things came out of it.

I challenge you for Nate dominance.

[Simps]

A crudely drawn sketch seems like the worst possible way to unveil the new costume for Marvel's biggest character? Why not have Wieringo or Deodato or Garney have a whack at it, and give it to a colorist rather than someone with markers in their hand.

[Captain Nate]

I challenge you for Nate dominance.

Ok.

[joespam]

I think the spider-spats on his boots look a little wrong, but aside from that, I dig it.

[Captain Nate]

I win.

[NATE!]

I win.

No you don't. COUNTER ATTACK!

[Captain Nate]

No you don't. COUNTER ATTACK!

Wait for it........






I won

[Bill?]

arrgh everyone panic! a new costume will never work out!
http://www.mojopopcomics.com/gallerycovers/spiderman-252-s.jpg

[Thudpucker]

I really hate when comic companies say "oh yeah? we'll show you our top characters aren't safe- we'll change them forever in this big EVENT comic!!!" and then sooner than later say "back to the classic, cause you demanded it!" Or they just quietly change it all back and hope no one that isn't already going to buy every issue automatically notices...

Well said. That's why i avoid 'events' like the plague.

[Smokinblues]

arrgh everyone panic! this will never work out!
http://www.mojopopcomics.com/gallerycovers/spiderman-252-s.jpg

the black costume is one of the coolest things to ever grace a comics page.


this red and gold crap is not.

[Ray G.]

well, since the book doesn't come out till next wednesday, it is tough to comment on, unless you get a look at your shop's sneak peeks.

I will comment on it next week, when everyone has read it.

Is a sight-unseen condemnation too much to ask for? ;)

[moonspider]

how about red and yello, brother?!?!?!!?
http://www.thewrestlingfan.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/orangejuice1.jpg

[Mike Haseloff]

Wasn't anywhere near as bad as I thought it would be.
Not thrilled with the yellow on the red, but it could be worse.

Reminds me of something he's worn in the past for some mission, or something. Eh... not terribly sexy, and definitely not enticing me to read Spidey books. Could've been worse, though.

The things around his ankles make me think of homeless people...

[NickT]

the black costume is one of the coolest things to ever grace a comics page.


this red and gold crap is not.
Reaction vs Old, you can't compare :)

[NickT]

I really hate when comic companies say "oh yeah? we'll show you our top characters aren't safe- we'll change them forever in this big EVENT comic!!!" and then sooner than later say "back to the classic, cause you demanded it!" Or they just quietly change it all back and hope no one that isn't already going to buy every issue automatically notices...
How about when the costume changes for a story reason, changing back when the story dictates it?

[andrew french]

hahaha

that costume isn't too bad, but all this other stuff about dead skin and stingers is.

[Shwicaz]

How about when the costume changes for a story reason, changing back when the story dictates it?


I agree.

I really don't understand everyone's venom (no pun intended) over the change.

IIRC, Peter used to alter/change the consistency of his web fluid, or get a different costume to tackle someone he couldn't handle 'on his own'.

[Bill?]

the classic red and blue costume is one of the coolest things to ever grace a comics page.


this Black crap is not.


look! change a couple words and it's like if they had the internet in 1984!

[A.Huerta]

There is no reason behind the change of suit or colors. Designers make custom clothing all the time, why is Tony saying, "My design my colors". You know an adult Peter Parker would say, "Fuck You".

[Thudpucker]

arrgh everyone panic! a new costume will never work out!
http://www.mojopopcomics.com/gallerycovers/spiderman-252-s.jpg

It helps if the costume doesn't suck ass... like that one does.

But to prove the point I'll see your 'Spider-man Black' and raise you a 'Armored Daredevil' and a Superman Blue'

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/thudpucker/cbm31b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/thudpucker/ElectricSupermanBlue.png

[Ben Rosen]

Doesn't Spider-woman have red and yellow as her colors?

omg iron man rip off.

back to my hidey hole...

[Adam Geen]

God, that's bad.

There should be some things you just don't change.

But if they're gonna do it, back to the black I say.

[andrew french]

Doesn't Spider-woman have red and yellow as her colors?

omg iron man rip off.

back to my hidey hole...

come back, ben.

[Shwicaz]

Theres is no reason behind the change. Designers make custom clothing all the time, why is Tony saying, "My design my colors". You know an adult Peter Parker would say, "Fuck You".


because that wasn't what Tony said.

Read the article again, knowing what you do about Joe Q:


Joe Quesada says, "I imagined Tony presenting Peter with the new suit and Peter putting it on and saying that it looks great but that his colors are red and blue. Tony would simply respond, ‘My design, my colors!’"



So, no, it wasn't the dialogue from the issue. It wasn't Tony saying 'My design, my colors', but that was the thought/attitude that Joe Q had in his head.

[Greenville 90210]

arrgh everyone panic! a new costume will never work out!
http://www.mojopopcomics.com/gallerycovers/spiderman-252-s.jpg

See...but it's hard to fuck up black with white. Very hard. You have to make a checkerboard or spirals to really fuck that up. But red and yellow? Doesn't take that much to make it look like shit- from a design standpoint.

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/h/hulkhogan/77.jpg

[Greenville 90210]

How about when the costume changes for a story reason, changing back when the story dictates it?

Can be done right and can be a cheap, shallow ploy...usually the second.

[NickT]

look! change a couple words and it's like if they had the internet in 1984!
:lol:

[Thudpucker]

How about when the costume changes for a story reason, changing back when the story dictates it?

How about when publishers dictate that the creators stage an event to boost sales and force the ongoing story to bend around 'shocking' changes like new costumes?

[Brad Gullickson]

How about when the costume changes for a story reason, changing back when the story dictates it?

I would agree if The Other was a good story line. But it's not. It sucks. This costume change does not work.

[A.Huerta]

because that wasn't what Tony said.

Read the article again, knowing what you do about Joe Q:


Joe Quesada says, "I imagined Tony presenting Peter with the new suit and Peter putting it on and saying that it looks great but that his colors are red and blue. Tony would simply respond, ‘My design, my colors!’"



So, no, it wasn't the dialogue from the issue. It wasn't Tony saying 'My design, my colors', but that was the thought/attitude that Joe Q had in his head.

And then Peter in my head would say,"Stick it up your A-hole, wino".

[NickT]

And then Peter in my head would say,"Stick it up your A-hole, wino".
The Peter who has been taken in and treated by Stark would be a disrespectful little shit to Stark?

[Ray G.]

Doesn't Spider-woman have red and yellow as her colors?

omg iron man rip off.

back to my hidey hole...

Hey, man.

I just checked "Paul has a Summer Job" out of my local library.

It's good, but Infinite Crisis is better. :D

[Smokinblues]

How about when the costume changes for a story reason, changing back when the story dictates it?


shitty story reason plus shitty costume = current reaction

[A.Huerta]

They're heroes arent they? They save people everyday, this shouldnt be anything special, especially with whats going on in the "Other". I just dont buy it, they messed up on this one and not everything Marvel does is right.

All Iron man has to do is make Peter the new suit, and keep the look of the original.

[TheKraken]

look! change a couple words and it's like if they had the internet in 1984!

Except that this really is an ugly design. People could've hated on the black one for being different, but that wouldn't make it a bad design. People defend Ben Reilly's costume, but that doesn't make it a good design. This is a bad design. Yellow is the ugliest color on the color wheel.

[Brad Gullickson]

shitty story reason plus shitty costume = current reaction

Yep. That's my take. That's my rage. I want a crossover between The Other Spidey and Ultimate Spidey. Ultimate Spidey bitch slaps Other Spidey and returns to the Ultimate Universe shaking his head.

[NickT]

shitty story reason plus shitty costume = current reaction
Shitty story reason that you haven't read yet, remember. Plus, I bet most of the bitchers didn't even bother to read the writeup, as then they'd think it pretty obvious that by the end of the year it'd be as it was.

[NickT]

How about when publishers dictate that the creators stage an event to boost sales and force the ongoing story to bend around 'shocking' changes like new costumes?
You mean like the black one? Yeah, that's so unpopular these days ;)

[Shwicaz]

And then Peter in my head would say,"Stick it up your A-hole, wino".

and then Tony says "...and I stole Baby May from her crib, too. Oh wait, we aren't supposed to talk about that!!"

:lol:

[Thudpucker]

You mean like the black one? Yeah, that's so unpopular these days ;)

You mean like the Electric Superman? Yeah, that's so popular these days ;)

[J. R. Scherer]

Well said. That's why i avoid 'events' like the plague.
But you always say that you want to see changes in these characters...!?

[Mike Haseloff]

You mean like the Electric Superman? Yeah, that's so popular these days ;)You got punked. :?

[NATE!]

You mean like the Electric Superman? Yeah, that's so popular these days ;)

Hey, fuck off. It would have worked if he didn't need 8 AAA batteries each issue. :)

[Shwicaz]

Hey, fuck off. It would have worked if he didn't need 8 AAA batteries each issue. :)


I thought they changed it because he kept burning his super-mullet with his new powers.

[Captain Nate]

See...but it's hard to fuck up black with white. Very hard. You have to make a checkerboard or spirals to really fuck that up. But red and yellow? Doesn't take that much to make it look like shit- from a design standpoint.



http://members.aol.com/bobsmith12345/spot2.jpg

[Thudpucker]

But you always say that you want to see changes in these characters...!?

I'd like to see well thought out progression taking place in an ongoing story. That's not the same thing.

All 'events' do is fuck things up, they interject these things into the ongoing stories and make the creators adapt and change around them. Often they just end up having to undo the damage of the events alltogether, wasting entire arcs on it.

[Captain Nate]

Except that this really is an ugly design. People could've hated on the black one for being different, but that wouldn't make it a bad design. People defend Ben Reilly's costume, but that doesn't make it a good design. This is a bad design. Yellow is the ugliest color on the color wheel.

There goes my plans for the Yellow Hulk

[Thudpucker]

Hey, fuck off. It would have worked if he didn't need 8 AAA batteries each issue. :)

Hey, they should have waited until that piss powered battery they were talking about earlier today had come along!

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=51127&highlight=urine

[NATE!]

I thought they changed it because he kept burning his super-mullet with his new powers.

I heard it was Billy Ray Cyrus' impending lawsuit for copyright infringement?

[Greenville 90210]

I want a crossover between The Other Spidey and Ultimate Spidey. Ultimate Spidey bitch slaps Other Spidey and returns to the Ultimate Universe shaking his head.

Now that would be a shitty story!

[Greenville 90210]

http://members.aol.com/bobsmith12345/spot2.jpg

Thank you!

[NATE!]

Hey, they should have waited until that piss powered battery they were talking about earlier today had come along!

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=51127&highlight=urine

Yeah, but think of all the water Supes would have had to drink. And there's an electrocution joke in there somewhere, but damned if I know what it is.

[Brad Gullickson]

Now that would be a shitty story!

Yes. But a shitty story I could get behind.

[Joe Henderson]

I like the idea that Iron Man makes him this costume, Spidey tries to wear it, but in the end, it just gets in the way (and it's ugly). That could make for an entertaining story.

[NickT]

You mean like the Electric Superman? Yeah, that's so popular these days ;)
Ah, touché :)

[Ashton]

ugh- there's no way that costume is permanent- that thing is ugly, and besides there's no replacing the red and blues. I'd rather see him switch to his black and white costume than this.

[Greenville 90210]

I like the idea that Iron Man makes him this costume, Spidey tries to wear it, but in the end, it just gets in the way (and it's ugly). That could make for an entertaining story.

If Pete thinks it's ugly and it goes away- it'd be a good story.

[Greenville 90210]

ugh- there's no way that costume is permanent- that thing is ugly, and besides there's no replacing the red and blues. I'd rather see him switch to his black and white costume than this.

Yeah. I'm actually surprised they didn't shoot that load already.

"RETURN OF THE BLACK COSTUME!"

Or...have they and I'm just ignorant?

[Ashton]

Yeah. I'm actually surprised they didn't shoot that load already.

"RETURN OF THE BLACK COSTUME!"

Or...have they and I'm just ignorant?

well its hard to say how many times the black tights have come and gone. but why this red and yellow thing? WHY??

[NickT]

well its hard to say how many times the black tights have come and gone. but why this red and yellow thing? WHY??
Because Stark made it.

[TheKraken]

Because Stark made it.

What's that got to do with it? What, does he have some weird eye problem where those are the only colors he can see? Is every Stark product red & yellow? Even his own outfit has had several color schemes.

[Ashton]

What's that got to do with it? What, does he have some weird eye problem where those are the only colors he can see? Is every Stark product red & yellow? Even his own outfit has had several color schemes.

Stark pays the bills, including Pete's paycheck.

[TheKraken]

Stark pays the bills, including Pete's paycheck.

What's that got to do with it? What, do all Stark employees where red & yellow? He's "paid the Avengers' paychecks" for their entire career.. do they all wear red & yellow?

[FredC]

That sketch looks almost Mignolian. But wow... that costume...

Whats wrong with old costumes? You know in at least a year we'll be back to it anyway.

(at least... we'd better be.)

[Greenville 90210]

Because Stark made it.

Yeah but Reed Richards made almost everything else and he didn't put a 4 on anything but the F4 stuff.

[Ashton]

What's that got to do with it? What, do all Stark employees where red & yellow? He's "paid the Avengers' paychecks" for their entire career.. do they all wear red & yellow?

its a joke on Peter?

to be honest, I think this is a temporary thing with the costume. it has to be- the red/blues are classic, legendary, and in the movies. its a temp thing for sure, if even true.

[Cth]

So, here's what non-comic geeks are posting about the costume..



2006-01-11 08:14:13 PM Mr. Fuzzypaws [TotalFark]
Farking Yuck!

2006-01-11 08:14:33 PM GratuityIncluded [TotalFark]

What an incredible disappointment.

/Iron Chef Chinese not impressed either

2006-01-11 08:15:06 PM Heroic Poser [TotalFark]

Hah! Submitter is a geek.
Wait. So am I since I got that.

Take it from an old comic book shop owner. This will last for about 6 months, then switch back. Then he'll want that "old feeling back".
Nothing to see here. Move along.

2006-01-11 08:17:51 PM Nerdlinger [TotalFark]

Yag! That is ugly as sin...

2006-01-11 08:18:55 PM Who_In_The_What_Now [TotalFark]

damn site won't load for me

2006-01-11 08:20:05 PM Stunn [TotalFark]

We still don't know what "The Other" is bringing us. The suit will probably have something to do with the outcome.

Other than that, I don't think it'll last long. I'll give it until Spider-Man 3.

2006-01-11 08:24:26 PM 2wolves [TotalFark]

Very EXTREME!

Too bad the whole Peter Parker character was based on a a guy who didn't look like a steroid freak.

2006-01-11 08:25:27 PM HarryCanyon [TotalFark]

Will someone with better skills to pay the bills please post the "Darth Vader: Noooooooooo" pic? I mean, honestly, that farkin' outfit suxs teh donkey balls.


2006-01-11 08:25:49 PM eyehate [TotalFark]

Liked the movies. Glad I don't read the comics - that is an eyesore.

2006-01-11 08:29:29 PM Mr. Fuzzypaws [TotalFark]

Will this do?
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5062/noobird3jl.jpg

2006-01-11 08:51:18 PM zymosan [TotalFark]

well that was a disappointment

2006-01-11 09:11:07 PM moonduck [TotalFark]

I second the "yech".

2006-01-11 09:12:26 PM japhy [TotalFark]

A "Yech" with a "COOL" tag? Make up your damn mind.

This is why I don't like comic books. Look at the figure. What the fark is up with his arms and legs? Does he have super-strength rubber bands cutting off his circulation or something?

[NickT]

So, here's what non-comic geeks are posting about the costume..
Non-comic geeks don't previously own stores or know about The Other ;)

[Angel of Distraction]

Cth, that might be the greatest photoshop EVER.

[The Roman Candle]

I give it a year, if that.

[The Human Target]

This thread is pretty great.

Yeah, thats a fucking bad sketch, and the costume isn't very interesting.

And I read next weeks issue, and it is a fucking turd. It made me kinda hate Peter David. He makes Wolverine say "Dis." :nonono2:

[glk]

Welcome to the suck.

[NickT]

This thread is pretty great.
Well, I am liking how it keeps going "I give it a year" "The writeup pretty much shows it will change in Civil War" "I give it a year" :)

[Shwicaz]

Well, I am liking how it keeps going "I give it a year" "The writeup pretty much shows it will change in Civil War" "I give it a year" :)


yeah, gotta love the people on every messageboard who haven't even read the article accompanying the picture.

They just see the pic and you get ten pages of

"that's stupid"

'why?'

"they'll just change it back right away"

'this isn't going to last'


and my favorite comment ever seen on a message board--

there is the comment made that Peter is 'indebted' to Tony.

A guy asked "How come Peter is in debt? How much does he owe Tony?"

:rofl:

[NickT]

yeah, gotta love the people on every messageboard who haven't even read the article accompanying the picture.

They just see the pic and you get ten pages of

"that's stupid"

'why?'

"they'll just change it back right away"

'this isn't going to last'


and my favorite comment ever seen on a message board--

there is the comment made that Peter is 'indebted' to Tony.

A guy asked "How come Peter is in debt? How much does he owe Tony?"

:rofl:
:lol:

[Greenville 90210]

It made me kinda hate Peter David. He makes Wolverine say "Dis." :nonono2:

That's still better than House of M Black Panther saying "why you trippin', boo?". Magneto would never let that fucking saying get popular.

[Ben Rosen]

come back, ben.
The time is not yet right. Special appearances like this will continue. But please, check my blog daily, to keep up on all my affairs and whatnot.

www.i2icomic.blogspot.com

[Captain Nate]

come back, ben Reilly.

right on! It's ironic that the only thing that can save the god awful state of the Spider-Man books, imo, is Ben Reilly! :)

[Smokinblues]

right on! It's ironic that the only thing that can save the god awful state of the Spider-Man books, imo, is Ben Reilly! :)

save spider-man? that would kill off the franchise for good.

[Shannon Chenoweth]

Holy fuck, I HATE this.
I'm sorry this sucks. PLEASE bring back the old Spidey suit that I love so much. I beg of you.

[Captain Nate]

save spider-man? that would kill off the franchise for good.

At this point, with the totem crap and the organic webs and the spider-stingers, Spider-Man is unrecognizable. Ben Reilly seems like more of a "pure" Spider-Man to me.

[Shwicaz]

At this point, with the totem crap and the organic webs and the spider-stingers, Spider-Man is unrecognizable. Ben Reilly seems like more of a "pure" Spider-Man to me.

the totem crap was introduced at the start of JMS' run.

It is rarely alluded to outside of that. (other than 'the other' storyline)

'organic' webshooters were something mentioned that would be addressed in the comics after the Spectacular Spider-Man: Disassembled arc (which was over a year ago), but they have yet to really make an impact.

The spider-stinger, and the costume change don't make spider-man 'unrecognizable' to me.

you know who dressed as RONIN was 'unrecognizable'.

This isn't too bad.

[NATE!]

Holy fuck, I HATE this.
I'm sorry this sucks. PLEASE bring back the old Spidey suit that I love so much. I beg of you.

I don't wanna know how much you "love" the suit, I think. :mistrust:

[Captain Nate]

the totem crap was introduced at the start of JMS' run.

It is rarely alluded to outside of that. (other than 'the other' storyline)

Does not compute. "Rare alluded to..." except for the Other? You mean the story line that has dominated Spider-Man for the last 3 months and which is giving him new powers and new costumes?



The spider-stinger, and the costume change don't make spider-man 'unrecognizable' to me.

The Spider-stinger does. Turning Spider-Man into some kind of creature, putting him in awful stories...that has made him unrecognizable. I've been reading Amazing Spider-Man since I started reading comics way back during the Byrne run, but even JMS has gotten me to drop it.

[J. R. Scherer]

I give it a year, if that.
Don't forget--Wolverine was sans adamantium for a decade!

[NATE!]

Spiderman should be a loner. An outcast. I think that's how he was originally percieved to be.

[Shwicaz]

Spiderman should be a loner. An outcast. I think that's how he was originally percieved to be.

yeah, like Wolverine and Logan.

They hate hanging out with other heroes.

;-)

[Captain Nate]

Spiderman should be a loner. An outcast. I think that's how he was originally percieved to be.

I have no problem with Spidey on a team. Except his stories no longer feel like Spider-Man stories to me. The heart of the character is dead, his supporting cast has been gutted and the little things which made him so cool have been gobbled up by totem-magic, spider knives that come out of his wrist and death-and-resurrection powers.

He ate someone's fuckin' head for god sakes. ATE. THEIR. HEAD.

[Shannon Chenoweth]

I don't wanna know how much you "love" the suit, I think. :mistrust:

There is NO perversion in this. Spidey is my fav character and I just want him back in his original costume.

[NATE!]

yeah, like Wolverine and Logan.

They hate hanging out with other heroes.

;-)

AH HA! Logan and Wolverine are the same person. DAMN YOUR TRICK QUESTIONS! Or....trick...repsonses...

[NATE!]

There is NO perversion in this. Spidey is my fav character and I just want him back in his original costume.

I think you're lying.

[Shwicaz]

AH HA! Logan and Wolverine are the same person. DAMN YOUR TRICK QUESTIONS! Or....trick...repsonses...


:Oops:

I meant 'Batman'.


Wouldn't it be cool if Batman, Logan, Spider-Man, and Hulk all got together to form a team called 'The Loners'

:lol:

[Captain Nate]

There is NO perversion in this. Spidey is my fav character and I just want him back in his original costume.

I want Spidey back, period. I want Peter Parker to behave like Peter Parker. I want the Bugle supporting cast back. I want warmth and heart in Peter's relationships again. I want to see his normal villains, the scientific-groundings of his adventures.

That includes his webshooters. Yeah, when you propose giving him organics alone, that's fine. But when you add it onto the awful mess the Spidey franchise has become, it becomes part of the problem.

[NATE!]

Wouldn't it be cool if Batman, Logan, Spider-Man, and Hulk all got together to form a team called 'The Loners'

:lol:

Irony in it's purest form, right there.

[Ashton]

I want Spidey back, period. I want Peter Parker to behave like Peter Parker. I want the Bugle supporting cast back. I want warmth and heart in Peter's relationships again. I want to see his normal villains, the scientific-groundings of his adventures.

That includes his webshooters. Yeah, when you propose giving him organics alone, that's fine. But when you add it onto the awful mess the Spidey franchise has become, it becomes part of the problem.

good points.

[niceguyeddie]

looks like a fucking teen titans cartoon version of spidey

[Shannon Chenoweth]

You know? It's funny that this is released while Joey Q and everyone are at the editorial retreat. Ok now, I'm thinking they WANT to get us all in a tizzy over this. That said, I think it is a big joke. Let's not give Joey Q the last laugh, huh? We know how much the man likes to play around. This is a big joke, isn't it Joe? :p

[Cth]

:Oops:

I meant 'Batman'.


Wouldn't it be cool if Batman, Logan, Spider-Man, and Hulk all got together to form a team called 'The Loners'

:lol:

- Batman and + Ghost Rider and you have the NEW Fantastic Four which was popular :)

[J. R. Scherer]

:Oops:

I meant 'Batman'.


Wouldn't it be cool if Batman, Logan, Spider-Man, and Hulk all got together to form a team called 'The Loners'

:lol:
That's the basis of The Defenders.


http://www.emeraldcitycomics.com/Defenders1.jpg

[Shwicaz]

That's the basis of The Defenders.


http://www.emeraldcitycomics.com/Defenders1.jpg


I was joking.


I just thought it odd, that someone would say that Peter is a 'loner'.

I mean look at his supporting cast over the years-- his family, his friends, his girlfriends.

Plus, he has teamed up with damn near every hero in the marvel U at one time or another.

'loner' is the last word I think about when I think about Peter.

[Kefky]

That's the basis of The Defenders.


http://www.emeraldcitycomics.com/Defenders1.jpg

Aw, you beat me to it, ya jerk!

[Evan the Shaggy]

Tony: Take off your pants.
Peter: Do I....Do I have to?
Tony: You want a new costume don't ya?
Peter: Boo hoo hoo.
Tony: Oh yeah.

Ok yeah, that's pretty bad. Now the colors are really awful and the webs need to be a part of the costume, do you think someone with Photoshop savee could change the gold to blue? I'd like to see what it would look like that way.

[Evan the Shaggy]

Never mind about the photoshop, I found one. Here's roughly what it would look like with blue instead of gold.

http://www.powrsurg.com/files/lrg_ironspidey_001blue.jpg

[NickT]

Does not compute. "Rare alluded to..." except for the Other? You mean the story line that has dominated Spider-Man for the last 3 months and which is giving him new powers and new costumes?

So, that is what, three months out of five years? I'd call that rare.



The Spider-stinger does. Turning Spider-Man into some kind of creature, putting him in awful stories...that has made him unrecognizable. I've been reading Amazing Spider-Man since I started reading comics way back during the Byrne run, but even JMS has gotten me to drop it.
I don't see how having something come out of his wrist makes him unrecognisable.

I want the Bugle supporting cast back.
They're back.

I want to see his normal villains, the scientific-groundings of his adventures.
See FN SPider-Man

I was joking.


I just thought it odd, that someone would say that Peter is a 'loner'.

I mean look at his supporting cast over the years-- his family, his friends, his girlfriends.

Plus, he has teamed up with damn near every hero in the marvel U at one time or another.

'loner' is the last word I think about when I think about Peter.
Spider-Man being called a loner is utter bollocks IMO. He has teamed up with so many. He used to team up with Toad, TOAD! He's only a loner in the way that he has never officially been on a team.

[J. R. Scherer]

You know? It's funny that this is released while Joey Q and everyone are at the editorial retreat. Ok now, I'm thinking they WANT to get us all in a tizzy over this. That said, I think it is a big joke. Let's not give Joey Q the last laugh, huh? We know how much the man likes to play around. This is a big joke, isn't it Joe? :p

Could be. Reminds me of the old Assistant Editor's Month gags Marvel used to do.

[Mark Mavro (kryptic6)]

I remember an interview with JMS, I think, where the person talked about the new suit being faithful to the original design: that sure as hell is not it, unless by faithful they mean there's still red in it. I'm pretty sure when they were drafting that thing up JoeQ was thinking lets come up with the gayest costume (sorry for using the word gay if I offended) that will piss off fans the most, it'll only last into Civil War, and people will bitch like crazy but still buy the issues in record numbers. It's actually just Marketing the Marvel Way, by Joe Quesada.

[A.Huerta]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/Aztekh/Diff.jpg

[The Count]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/Jobberwrestling316/lrg_ironspidey_001blue.jpg

Still shite.

[GabeLogan]

Wow as a very loyal reader of Spidy I have to say I'm very disappointed in the new costume. Hopefully the final product will be better than the rough sketch they are showing us, or it could be a fake. I find it hard to believe Marvel would annouce a change like this for a main character and show a concept sketch instead of a final piece of art.

[BronxRonin]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/Jmor30/nuspideycopy.jpg

[Shwicaz]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/Jmor30/nuspideycopy.jpg

Is Peter's 'package' supposed to be 'the other'?

:twisted:

[dEnny!]

I give it six issues...excuse me while I go vomit.

[SLAvery]

It's fake, fake, fake.

[TheKraken]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/Jmor30/nuspideycopy.jpg

Oh, sure, show everyone up... :D

[JPKakinuma]

His costume has the overwhelming stench of the 90s on it.

[Matt Jay]

That can't be real.

[Flonk]

uhhhh-huh. :?

[Flonk]

Who's Spidey's "same color scheme" villain referred to in the article?

The Shocker?

[Captain Nate]

So, that is what, three months out of five years? I'd call that rare.

I wouldn't. Because in those three months, it has completely rewritten the origin of the character. Hell, since JMS started writing most of the stories feel as though they are centered around some sort of magic, which isn't the typical grounding for a Spidey story.


I don't see how having something come out of his wrist makes him unrecognisable.

Alone it doesn't; in conjunction with everything else they've put him through? It does.


They're back.

Yeah? Before I dropped Amazing, I saw more Avengers than I saw any classic Spidey characters.


See FN SPider-Man

I did. I saw Spidey eat someone's head.

[A.Huerta]

I don't see how having something come out of his wrist makes him unrecognisable.

I'm sure stabbing people would.

[Captain Nate]

I'm sure stabbing people would.

Don't forget eating his enemies.

Y'know what? Maybe all of this are just symptons of clone degeneration. Ben Reilly was the real Peter Parker after all!

[Petey Parker]

That's gotta be fake (like when they were trying to cover over the return of Colossus by posting all the Jean Grey stuff)

[Vonn Hennigar]

http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/images/ben_reilly/spider14.jpg



Doesn't Look So Bad, Now does it?;-)

[Captain Nate]

http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/images/ben_reilly/spider14.jpg



Doesn't Look So Bad, Now does it?;-)

I :heart: Scarlet Spider.

[bachman]

That's... not good.

Maybe it's just that particular art style, but it looks like its trying to be all hip and manga like. Which is what "the young people" are into these days.

Plus (and this is the gayest thing I've ever said) those colors are awful.

And it's funny, the people defending Marvel aren't actually defending the costume itself, they're just pointing out fan over-reaction.

That's... not good.

[TheKraken]

I :heart: Scarlet Spider.

See, that's why I can't get behind you. Your argument is really crippled when you say this cosutme sucks and Ben Reilly didn't. Ben Reilly was the worst idea in Spider-Man history until Paul Jenkins turned Peter into a giant spider... and now "The Other" has topped even that for awfulness. But Ben Reilly is still up there. At least under this lame costume, it will be Peter Parker, not Peter's clone in a fake dye job, workin' at a coffee shop and romancing the daughter of the man who killed Uncle Ben. Sheesh.

Even if Marvel came out and said, "this is Spider-Man's new costume forever and ever. It will never be changed back. Deal with it." no one would believe them, and eventually, he'd revert to his classic outfit. Hell, fans liked the black costume and he changed back eventually, anyhow. It's inevitable. So that's not the issue. The issue is, "should Marvel's most recognizable icon, a character with one of the coolest superhero costumes ever, wear this new one for awhile? Does it live up to the character? Is this particular look cool enough to be 'Spider-Man' for a few months?" And the answer, just as it was with the Scarlet Spider and the 90s Spidey suit, is "fuck no."

[Captain Nate]

See, that's why I can't get behind you. Your argument is really crippled when you say this cosutme sucks and Ben Reilly didn't.

Where did I say the costume sucks? Although it's not particularly good, a new costume isn't the end of the world, but what they've done to Spidey's character does suck, and this costume is really just one aspect of all that they have done wrong with the character.


Ben Reilly was the worst idea in Spider-Man history until Paul Jenkins turned Peter into a giant spider...

How? Ben was a fun character. It'd be awesome to have a brother-type ally for Peter. I don't think he should have replaced Peter though.

[Tom Burgos]

http://www.marvel.com/publishing/stories/ironspidey/lrg_ironspidey_001.jpg

Read and yellow lil spider...
Does this mean that Spider-Woman will wear red and blue now?

[Flonk]

See, that's why I can't get behind you. Your argument is really crippled when you say this cosutme sucks and Ben Reilly didn't. Ben Reilly was the worst idea in Spider-Man history until Paul Jenkins turned Peter into a giant spider... and now "The Other" has topped even that for awfulness. But Ben Reilly is still up there. At least under this lame costume, it will be Peter Parker, not Peter's clone in a fake dye job, workin' at a coffee shop and romancing the daughter of the man who killed Uncle Ben. Sheesh.

Even if Marvel came out and said, "this is Spider-Man's new costume forever and ever. It will never be changed back. Deal with it." no one would believe them, and eventually, he'd revert to his classic outfit. Hell, fans liked the black costume and he changed back eventually, anyhow. It's inevitable. So that's not the issue. The issue is, "should Marvel's most recognizable icon, a character with one of the coolest superhero costumes ever, wear this new one for awhile? Does it live up to the character? Is this particular look cool enough to be 'Spider-Man' for a few months?" And the answer, just as it was with the Scarlet Spider and the 90s Spidey suit, is "fuck no."


I liked the 90s suit :?

[Captain Nate]

I liked the 90s suit :?

I liked it drawn by Mark Bagley, not so much by Dan Jurgens.

Looks good on Spider-Girl though. Don't know if I can see it on Ben again after that, but I'd love to see the Scarlet Spider again, even if they make the costume a little less make-shift (but I thought that was part of the charm)

http://membres.lycos.fr/marvelman/Images/Cover/Spidergirl/Spidergirl_00.jpg

[Kefky]

And it's funny, the people defending Marvel aren't actually defending the costume itself, they're just pointing out fan over-reaction.



They're not defending marvel because it's obviously a fake.

They're pointing out(mocking) fan over-reaction because it's obviously a fake.

[Vonn Hennigar]

It's not a Fake it's right on Marvel's Site