My XBOX 360 Scheme.....

[sto110]

OK i mentioned this before but now i am expanding on it.


I am going to change my sams club membership to a business one this week. Its actually 5 bucks cheaper then mine and i do have my own business (STOJR CONSULTING)
This membership will allow me into the store 3 hours earlier then normal club members
I am going to purchase 2 360ittys and put one on ebay
I am hopeing to get 800-1000 dollars on ebay for the one so that it offsets the cost of mine
My question is what suggestions do you have for putting something this large on ebay? Wait a week or two before christmas? Use paypal? Have them send a check? 7 day auction?

I dont sell things on ebay that often so any suggestions would be appreciated.

[Shane W]

Sounds like a decent plan actually.

[Gregory]

I'd have them use PayPal.

Also look at eBay and see how people with high Buy Now options handle their buying requirements.

[CraigM]

Wait... people will actually spend 1000 dollars on an item they can get for 400?

Wow...

Craig

[sto110]

Sounds like a decent plan actually.

yeah i think so, i am actually looking for something wrong with it. And i am not all about the xbox so if i get there and they dont have it or there is a line, i dont care i just go to work.

[Shane W]

Wait... people will actually spend 1000 dollars on an item they can get for 400?

Wow...

Craig

The PS2 was going for as much as $5000.00 back on the release christmas season.

[Evan the Shaggy]

Wait... people will actually spend 1000 dollars on an item they can get for 400?

Wow...

Craig

Don't you remember when the PS2 came out? People were paying over 1000 for something that cost $300 originally.

Edit: On a side note sto, I would bring someone with you. They might do that "Limit 1 per person" especially with the 360.

[The-Last-Man]

Who in the right mind will pay $1000.00 for it? Thats just crazy.

Good for you if you can get it, but crazy still.

[sto110]

Wait... people will actually spend 1000 dollars on an item they can get for 400?

Wow...

Craig

yeah well 1000 for a bundle, the thing at sams will prob cost 450-500 with an extra controller

[Briomega]

I doubt you would get that much for one selling it. The Core systems should be in decent supply. Those are less than 800 bucks, even after buying the extra equipment.

[Petey Parker]

Who in the right mind will pay $1000.00 for it? Thats just crazy.

Good for you if you can get it, but crazy still.

People who are impatient or have bratty kids that won't shut up if they don't get a 360 for Christmas.

[Cth]

What's your ebay rating?

Cause that might hurt your chances of it getting sold.

Likewise, there's a TON of scam artists out there, especially for something like this. All they gotta do is say it never arrived, and paypal will refund their money.

It's a good plan though.. but like others said, they'll likely have a 1 per shopper limit to avoid such scenarios.

[Shane W]

What's your ebay rating?

Cause that might hurt your chances of it getting sold.

Likewise, there's a TON of scam artists out there, especially for something like this. All they gotta do is say it never arrived, and paypal will refund their money.

It's a good plan though.. but like others said, they'll likely have a 1 per shopper limit to avoid such scenarios.

Unless you use tracking.. ALWAYS use tracking with Paypal.

[Cth]

Unless you use tracking.. ALWAYS use tracking with Paypal.

I'd still be leery.. he should do some research on it at least for potential pitfalls to keep an eye out for.

But yeah, always use tracking and/or signature confirmation.

[sto110]

What's your ebay rating?

Cause that might hurt your chances of it getting sold.

Likewise, there's a TON of scam artists out there, especially for something like this. All they gotta do is say it never arrived, and paypal will refund their money.

It's a good plan though.. but like others said, they'll likely have a 1 per shopper limit to avoid such scenarios.

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[ChrisCollins]

A lot of those PS2 numbers were due to their very limited production. Once they sold out of the initial PS2's there were no more coming in to restock. My guess is that Microsoft is a little smarter about this and will have a lot more available and hopefully shipments will come weekly to restock. Still, there will be some shortages, and there are plenty of people on eBay who are stupid enough to pay a marked up price. If you can get two, selling the other will probably get you enough money to offset some of the cost of the first one. Though I don't think you'll get enough to cover it entirely. Definately bring a friend, because my guess is that they will have a limit one per customer.

[ChrisCollins]

The best way to get people to bite on Christmas items is to offer fast shipping. Overnight or guarunteed. Remember people are most likely buying this as a gift to someone else. If you wait till 10 days before Christmas and put up the auction with overnight or 2-days shipping, people will bite.

[Wagon]

A lot of those PS2 numbers were due to their very limited production. Once they sold out of the initial PS2's there were no more coming in to restock.

this is very true, but there were still ps2s to be had in stores around Christmas ( at least near me...) and Microsoft did just cut their initial shipment in half. So it's likely the same types of shortages will apply...

[sto110]

A lot of those PS2 numbers were due to their very limited production. Once they sold out of the initial PS2's there were no more coming in to restock. My guess is that Microsoft is a little smarter about this and will have a lot more available and hopefully shipments will come weekly to restock. Still, there will be some shortages, and there are plenty of people on eBay who are stupid enough to pay a marked up price. If you can get two, selling the other will probably get you enough money to offset some of the cost of the first one. Though I don't think you'll get enough to cover it entirely. Definately bring a friend, because my guess is that they will have a limit one per customer.

yeah i heard somehting like they are only making 400,000 units but i am not sure if that is initial shipment or all before xmas. They do expect shortages though but who knows.

The safety net in this plan is if i can return the second unopened one if i cant sell it.

[Simps]

I'm getting my $700 premium bundle for a nice $400, and it'll be delivered the first week of December ;)

[sto110]

I'm getting my $700 premium bundle for a nice $400, and it'll be delivered the first week of December ;)

how why where huh?

please elaborate and tell me how i can do this too! :)

[Kip K]

I like your plan--I am going to steal that one to add to my own.

I have one reserved (guaranteed), but am trying to get a few more for some people I know and to Ebay. I plan on camping out at Best Buy just for the experience and then hitting the regular stores at opening on the 22nd.

I also plan on ebaying the first week in December after everybody realizes they couldn't get one because there will be shortages.

[RøcketFrøg]

You're like Danny Partridge.

[Allgold]

The safety net in this plan is if i can return the second unopened one if i cant sell it.

I've returned stuff to Sam's before and you only have 7 days to return it. I returned a video game I bought there, and since I paid for it with a check I could only get my money back in gift card form. I'd double-check the policies online if I were you.

[Briomega]

I like your plan--I am going to steal that one to add to my own.

I have one reserved (guaranteed), but am trying to get a few more for some people I know and to Ebay. I plan on camping out at Best Buy just for the experience and then hitting the regular stores at opening on the 22nd.

I also plan on ebaying the first week in December after everybody realizes they couldn't get one because there will be shortages.

I don't know if it's true, but I heard the way Best Buy was doing things was they would be handing out tickets before the store opens to people in line. Then they will randomly draw numbers to see who gets the machine. The supposed reason is to prevent campouts overnight.

Dunno if that's just rumor or store policy though.

[TheGibson]

This is what you do:


Get them. Wait one week or however long it take for the stores to be sold out. Look around and see if you can find any, if you can't, that's the time.

Make sure that you DOCUMENT as much as you can when you post that listing!!! People might think you're ripping them off with photoshop or a mock-up or something. Post a pic of the receipt maybe?

Make them use PayPal. It will save your butt.

Spend the money on hookers.

[RyanP]

My plan is to eBay mine as well if they are going for some stupid amount. I can wait a little longer if it means making a few hundred bucks. If not, that's cool, I really want to play it.

[sto110]

OK UPDATES!!


I got the business membership today ($5 bucks cheaper!)
They are getting them in, they have either 36 or 48 in the back
I can get there at 7 because i am a business member


KINK IN THE PLAN!

One per member..... so now i gotta figure something out or just buy one or something..........hmmmm

[Gregory]

I managed to watch the 360 in action at Best Buy this weekend. One of the gabillion games imitating Saving private Ryan was in the system. The graphics were sterling and crisp, but the game was played on a Samsung HD flatscreen. No telling what it will look like on a regular TV set.

I bought myself Quake 4 for the PC, and was blown away by the graphics for THAT game. WOW.

[gaspar]

I preordered a PS2, bought it for $300 and put it on eBay the next day. I ended up getting over $600 + s&h and I was on the low end of the ones selling them. It's still the only PS2 I've ever owned. I'd have done the same for the 360, but I don't have the money to front right now.

If you do end up getting 2, I'd sell them both on eBay. If you really want one, wait a month and buy one for retail price at any store, but right now is the time to sell as many as you can!

[badpoet]

KINK IN THE PLAN!

One per member..... so now i gotta figure something out or just buy one or something..........hmmmm

Is there more than one Sam's Club in your area? If so, buy one at one, buy another at another (you still have 3 hours before other folks get there).

[sto110]

I managed to watch the 360 in action at Best Buy this weekend. One of the gabillion games imitating Saving private Ryan was in the system. The graphics were sterling and crisp, but the game was played on a Samsung HD flatscreen. No telling what it will look like on a regular TV set.

I bought myself Quake 4 for the PC, and was blown away by the graphics for THAT game. WOW.

yeah quake 4 looks like doom but plays better.

it wont look as good on a regular tv though, good thing i am getting a HD projector real soon

[sto110]

Is there more than one Sam's Club in your area? If so, buy one at one, buy another at another (you still have 3 hours before other folks get there).

OMG BRILLIANT!
I didnt think of that!

seriously i didnt! thanks man i am going to look now

[Kip K]

People have already started lining up at Best Buy and Wal-Mart for tonight's release in my area. Some have been there since 6 this morning (and it is rainy and cold here).

[sto110]

People have already started lining up at Best Buy and Wal-Mart for tonight's release in my area. Some have been there since 6 this morning (and it is rainy and cold here).

see i refuse to do that stuff, i have my little scheme, if it doesnt work then oh well i dont get it

[JABSEN]

People have already started lining up at Best Buy and Wal-Mart for tonight's release in my area. Some have been there since 6 this morning (and it is rainy and cold here).Really?

Fucksticks

[Gregory]

People have already started lining up at Best Buy and Wal-Mart for tonight's release in my area. Some have been there since 6 this morning (and it is rainy and cold here).

When the PS2 was released, Best Buy handed out numbers matching their quantity to those who lined up. This way, the parking lot and sidewalks were cleared. Those of us in line who got a number were asked to come back when the store opened and were directed to a special pick-up area. Smartly, this area (near the customer service section) was packed with PS2 accessories, including a package deal on games and memory cards. This area also served as an advertisement to other shoppers as to how the store served its customers. I thought it was all well done on their part.

[Jonny Z]

if i can get one at best buy tomorrow, and my 360 thats on pre-order at eb games comes soon, ill sell the one that i get from eb (as long as the ebay prices are still inflated)

[Kip K]

The real kicker with Best Buy is that they are only giving out half of their inventory tonight. I doubt the store got more than 50, so the game for tonight is already over.

Target is doing the get a number thing tomorrow--I guess Best Buy will try the same for tomorrow's opening.

[Merle, Son of Boobah]

I sold the ps2 on the day of release (the auction ended the day of release) for a little over $1200, I love impatient people.

[Cth]

Thanks for posting this, I completely forgot about my father-in-law having a business membership there :)

Now, my wife's mom and her friend are tagging along with us and hopefully we'll get a couple between all of us.

[sto110]

Thanks for posting this, I completely forgot about my father-in-law having a business membership there :)

Now, my wife's mom and her friend are tagging along with us and hopefully we'll get a couple between all of us.

Do you know if you just bring others if they can buy limited things. I dont really know what the:

one per member means.

[Cth]

Good question. I'll see what I can find out.

[sto110]

Good question. I'll see what I can find out.

cool let me know, it would save me a trip that would make me an hour late for work.

BTW when i am done all this i will be consulting the board on how to best put this on ebay.

if i can get both.

[Generic Poster]

Do you know if you just bring others if they can buy limited things. I dont really know what the:

one per member means.

Since only the "member" can technically purchase things, I am sure it means "one per membership."

[sto110]

Since only the "member" can technically purchase things, I am sure it means "one per membership."

damn


i wonder if i walk out and just walk back in if they will let me

[Cth]

Yeah, I wonder if it's one per business membership, or card holder..

Probably just business membership I'm guessing..

What's weird, is the guy there suggested that I come in early if I had a business membership without asking. I wonder how many people he told that to.

Ah well, three Sams Clubs in the area, and we may try the Walmart thing tonight too.

[Generic Poster]

damn


i wonder if i walk out and just walk back in if they will let me

Probably. I expect as long as you don't carry a stack of them to the counter with you, you can walk in and out.

[sto110]

Ok so i stopped in tonight to get food and asked one of the lead cashiers about the one per person thing, she had no clue and thought you could get as many as you want.


interesting..... I wonder how crowded it will be in the morning. Good thing this is down the block from my work.

[Blandy vs Terrorism]

People who are impatient or have bratty kids that won't shut up if they don't get a 360 for Christmas.
Yep. Plus the "hardcore" gamers with too much money to spend because they still live with their parents.

[sto110]

got it
only one
now i have to determine wheter i open it or sell it. This is tuff.

They only had 18 i was 13th in line at 645. They opened at 7 and i got it.

the 19th person was pissed.

[Smokinblues]

Wait... people will actually spend 1000 dollars on an item they can get for 400?

Wow...

Craig

when the ps2 came out and stores sold out people were paying 1200-1600 for it just to shut their kids up.

[sto110]

I just saw one go for 2075 are you kidding me?

That may have just made up my mind.

[JABSEN]

I just saw one go for 2075 are you kidding me?

That may have just made up my mind.Yep.Sell that shit.

[SLAvery]

I got really lucky and found the damn things being sold in a grocery store, of all places.

Now I've got three of them. :D

[sto110]

I got really lucky and found the damn things being sold in a grocery store, of all places.

Now I've got three of them. :D

no way
what store

[Evan the Shaggy]

Just check ebay, people are buying them for 2k. Its ridiculous.

[SLAvery]

no way
what store

Superstore. It's a Canadian chain only, I think.

[gaspar]

Sell it!

You can get another for retail in a few weeks. You can get 3x+ what you paid for it TODAY! SELL SELL SELL!

[Thudpucker]

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That might hurt you. That's very little feedback, if I was a buyer I might think you'd be willing to take a negative hit and steal my money rather than send it. You don't have much to risk.

I'm not saying you would of course. I'm just saying that is what alot of people would think. I never buy anything expensive from someone with less than 200 positive feedbacks.

If you have a friend with better feedback, I suggest selling it under his name. Yours is going to scare off people.

[Cth]

I managed to pick up one thanks to sto..

Same scenario.. showed up at 6:30am.. was 13th in line out of 20.

Picked up Perfect Dark Zero collectors edition for $50 as well since I was there.

[JABSEN]

That might hurt you. That's very little feedback, if I was a buyer I might think you'd be willing to take a negative hit and steal my money rather than send it. You don't have much to risk.

I'm not saying you would of course. I'm just saying that is what alot of people would think. I never buy anything expensive from someone with less than 200 positive feedbacks.

If you have a friend with better feedback, I suggest selling it under his name. Yours is going to scare off people.You'd think but look at some of the sellers with ZERO feedback.It's still up there in price

[sto110]

That might hurt you. That's very little feedback, if I was a buyer I might think you'd be willing to take a negative hit and steal my money rather than send it. You don't have much to risk.

I'm not saying you would of course. I'm just saying that is what alot of people would think. I never buy anything expensive from someone with less than 200 positive feedbacks.

If you have a friend with better feedback, I suggest selling it under his name. Yours is going to scare off people.

yeah i would ahve to ask around i dont know if anyone i know uses ebay that much. hmmm maybe my father in law.

still debating on what to do, this is killing me. its staring at me right now

[Lab-Rat]

So...My roommate camped out in front of Best Buy Yesterday (he got in line at about 3:30pm)....was 5th in line. Got home at like 8:45AM this morning with a 360 in hand. I'll probably play it when I get home from work. He got Perfect Dark: Zero. Didn't buy an extra controller yet, though...the bastard. :D

The Best buy was actually pretty cool (I hung out with him for a few hours after bringing him some food). The Best buy was giving sweaters out to anyone who was too stupid to dress warm. They also bought pizza for everyone at the end of the night. Then they gave everyone a coupon pack that had a bunch of 10% and 20% cupons for different DVDs, video games and X-box 360 accessories....which I thought was neat.

just thought I'd share.

[sto110]

So...My roommate camped out in front of Best Buy Yesterday (he got in line at about 3:30pm)....was 5th in line. Got home at like 8:45AM this morning with a 360 in hand. I'll probably play it when I get home from work. He got Perfect Dark: Zero. Didn't buy an extra controller yet, though...the bastard. :D

The Best buy was actually pretty cool (I hung out with him for a few hours after bringing him some food). The Best buy was giving sweaters out to anyone who was too stupid to dress warm. They also bought pizza for everyone at the end of the night. Then they gave everyone a coupon pack that had a bunch of 10% and 20% cupons for different DVDs, video games and X-box 360 accessories....which I thought was neat.

just thought I'd share.

thats pretty cool acutally. good to see some places are nice to thier customers.

[Generic Poster]

So, Sto, how worked the scheme?

[sto110]

Worked out good, got only ONE though. I just listed it on ebay at a really huge reserve to see what happens.

Its going to be nuts.

but i was able to get one by doing all this so it worked out well.

[Generic Poster]

How many did they have? I sent my wife out, but we only have the scum membership, so couldn't get in until 10:00.

[sto110]

18

[Generic Poster]

Hmmmmm. I do not have high hopes for her success, then.

[Jonny Z]

is it wrong that many of us only want a 360 now to just sell and make a profit on?

i'm hoping my pre-ordered one comes in just before christmas in the hopes that demand is even higher- and if i offer some kind of overnight shipping "in time for christmas" deal, i'll get even more money

[sto110]

is it wrong that many of us only want a 360 now to just sell and make a profit on?

i'm hoping my pre-ordered one comes in just before christmas in the hopes that demand is even higher- and if i offer some kind of overnight shipping "in time for christmas" deal, i'll get even more money

well i dont want it to make profit, i want it to pay for one for me, so i just want somethign for free :)

[sto110]

Hmmmmm. I do not have high hopes for her success, then.

yeah the business club members more then got all the ones at my local sams

[Smokinblues]

is it wrong that many of us only want a 360 now to just sell and make a profit on?

i'm hoping my pre-ordered one comes in just before christmas in the hopes that demand is even higher- and if i offer some kind of overnight shipping "in time for christmas" deal, i'll get even more money

there is nothing wrong with wanting to make a profit.

[Jonny Z]

there is nothing wrong with wanting to make a profit.

i know... i was just all hyped up for the last few weeks over getting one to play, but then i realized i didn't actually want one as badly as i thought... and that i wasn't gona bust my ass to find one on release day... so i'm more upset at myself for getting hyped for nothing :)

[sto110]

damn ebay is being flooded, when i posted my auction there were 5000 of them on there, an hour later there was 11400

oh well