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jordan michael
10-13-2005, 03:08 PM
you had to read all the tie-ins, crisis on infinite earths, AND every dc book ever. i was so pumped about infinite crisis, but my feelings are so mixed now...

Los
10-13-2005, 03:12 PM
yeah...you kind of did. on the plus side villians united was quite good and i really enjoyed day of vengance.

Ben Rosen
10-13-2005, 03:18 PM
wow. i was really unimpressed. great art. great lettering--check out that page with the perfect "z" going down the page.

but i had no idea what was going on. so much was stuffed into this. apparently things get explained next issue, but if they don't, i can't see myself sticking around.

Kefky
10-13-2005, 03:18 PM
Yea, and you have to be a fan of the old multiverse crap too! YAY!

Bandit Chimera
10-13-2005, 03:21 PM
well you know wikipedia can answer most of the questions raised about the old COIE and older stuff. I personally think that the series could be really great (or it could suck) only time will tell us though.

At least DC is trying to keep everything together continuity wise

yeamon
10-13-2005, 03:22 PM
I won't pretend to understand how business or creative decisions are made at a corporate entity like DC, but it's impossible to imagine a meeting(s) where everyone agrees to make the entire line of comics as inaccessible as possible to the reader.

But I'm consistently baffled by this industry.

jordan michael
10-13-2005, 03:27 PM
okay, i was so pumped for this book. during all of this i didn't feel like i HAD to read all these books because i WANTED to read all the books. i liked the stories, and they got me interested into the others stories. i also liked how the dc universe was more organized. because of crisis there weren't many alternate dc universes, the continuity was nice and fresh, and there weren't decades on decades of story behind each character. i also like how crisis just cut off the loose ends and started something new. i would of like infinite crisis if it just was everything happening in all the dc books just having one giant climax at once. something that pays off the the fans, and can get new fans interested in what else was going on the dc books recently. now they are bringing back the old multiverse stuff, going back to the original crisis. i feel very disappointed. it could of been so much cooler.

Captain Nate
10-13-2005, 03:37 PM
You can get by if you do an internet search on Earth 2 and COIE and if you read some recent Wonder Woman. But most of it is kind of incomprehensible...but it's still fun. :)

Ben Rosen
10-13-2005, 03:39 PM
You can get by if you do an internet search on Earth 2 and COIE and if you read some recent Wonder Woman. But most of it is kind of incomprehensible...but it's still fun. :)
but why should i have to do research into a 20 year old mini series to just comprehend whats happening?

Captain Nate
10-13-2005, 03:44 PM
but why should i have to do research into a 20 year old mini series to just comprehend whats happening?

Alas, you shouldn't. But I'm sure the 20 year old mini's relevance will be explained during the series, but for the sake of the shock ending of #1, they had to avoid doing so.

Ben Rosen
10-13-2005, 03:44 PM
Alas, you shouldn't. But I'm sure the 20 year old mini's relevance will be explained during the series, but for the sake of the shock ending of #1, they had to avoid doing so.
true, true.

jordan michael
10-13-2005, 03:56 PM
Alas, you shouldn't. But I'm sure the 20 year old mini's relevance will be explained during the series, but for the sake of the shock ending of #1, they had to avoid doing so.

good point, but i really kinda don't wanna read another crisis on infinite earths. it seems like they are setting this up to be another crisis on infinite earths, but why would i want to read another crisis on infinite earths? they already wrote that story.

Guy H
10-13-2005, 11:25 PM
but why should i have to do research into a 20 year old mini series to just comprehend whats happening?


i don't understand why you would need to.. it's only the last page.. it's a cliff hanger and you'll find out in the next issue.. just like any other comic.. if an issue of spider-man ends with a villain you don't know on the last page what do you do? i would think most people now days either go online and ask or like b4 the internet you wait until the next issue and find out..

otherwise.. we know supes/bats/ww are/have been not seeing eye to eye lately.. we know the villains are together and the freedom fighters paid for it.. do you need to know who the freedom fighters are? not really .. you just need to know they are some heroes who got their asses kicked in.. etc

it's the first issue.. not everything will be or should be answered in the first issue.. just like hopefully when this ends there will be some things not settled so they can be settled in the monthlies..

TIP
10-13-2005, 11:36 PM
:lol:

Ah, kids.

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BWC Boston
10-13-2005, 11:41 PM
http://212.23.5.9/TWS/CoverImages_1_9/184/270/1842701029.jpg

ds9
10-14-2005, 06:51 AM
all of it gets explained as the story progresses and so far its just part 1 and we got alot from just one issue.

Simps
10-14-2005, 06:59 AM
but why should i have to do research into a 20 year old mini series to just comprehend whats happening?

Because it makes it more fun? Nothing better than reading something first time around, being slightly confused, then do a little digging on the subject (which shouldn't be too hard these days, people have been posting all sorts of info on the original Crisis lately) then rereading it and being able to enjoy the book with the information you've learned.

Also, like DC has been saying; It's a sequel to COIE, and they will give you everything you need to know by issue 2. So they've been telling you to READ the original Crisis, or just wait it out until issue 2.

Lord Jermaine Retail
10-14-2005, 07:01 AM
Every comic is someone's first. When I first started collecting there were starting points, but readers were not as coddled as they are now. Part of the fun in comics for me was being exposed to something new that I was interested in and learning more about it. Now it seems that no on wants to explore anything. You have to explain everything to them within the one or two books that they bought or looked at. There is no patience anymore it seems. DC said this thing was a sequel to Crisis on Infinite Earths, not just in tone, but literally. So for anyone who bought IC #1 and spent time typing out how lost they were rather than finding answers to their questions online or communicating with people about the story (this used to also be a fun part about comics), then I don't know what to tell you other than sorry things worked out that way for you.

Christopher Brian
10-14-2005, 07:12 AM
Every comic is someone's first. When I first started collecting there were starting points, but readers were not as coddled as they are now. Part of the fun in comics for me was being exposed to something new that I was interested in and learning more about it. Now it seems that no on wants to explore anything. You have to explain everything to them within the one or two books that they bought or looked at. There is no patience anymore it seems. DC said this thing was a sequel to Crisis on Infinite Earths, not just in tone, but literally. So for anyone who bought IC #1 and spent time typing out how lost they were rather than finding answers to their questions online or communicating with people about the story (this used to also be a fun part about comics), then I don't know what to tell you other than sorry things worked out that way for you.

My first issue of Uncanny X-Men was right after the Siege Perilous. If I had the attitude then that a lot of people have now I would have not picked up the next issue simply because I had no fricking idea what was going on. I agree that readers are coddled now. We live in an On Demand society now. Everybody wants everything right now.