Grunge Music

[Taki Soma]

just wondering:

Please help me out and list off some Grunge bands

what makes grunge, grunge?

is there a certain 'grunge' look, aside from looking like a clone of Kurt Cobain?

and is grunge still around?????

[Gregory]

Pearl Jam, Screaming Trees, Mudhoney, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains

I always saw grunge as a thick version of punk: an isolated, passionate mass construction project to escape the current trends of the time.

[wh park]

Stone Temple Pilots.

[moonspider]

Pearl Jam, Screaming Trees, Mudhoney, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains

I always saw grunge as a thick version of punk: an isolated, passionate mass construction project to escape the current trends of the time.


what about sonic youth and the vaselines

[Tabraz]

dinosaur jr (?)

[MIKE D]

what about sonic youth and the vaselines


You could call them pre-cursors to grunge, and they were certainly influences, especially on Cobain, but I wouldn't consider them to really be "grunge".

[Gregory]

what about sonic youth and the vaselines

Sonic Youth always struck me as more of an extension of punk than grunge. But I think they helped at least foreshadow the distortion and texture of grunge.

[Taki Soma]

Sonic Youth always struck me as more of an extension of punk than grunge. But I think they helped at least foreshadow the distortion and texture of grunge.
ya, and SY was around waaaaay before grunge ever made it to the scene anyway

[Taki Soma]

Pearl Jam, Screaming Trees, Mudhoney, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains

I always saw grunge as a thick version of punk: an isolated, passionate mass construction project to escape the current trends of the time.
I don't know about the punk thing. I grew up loving punk, but nothing about Grunge music struck me as anything I liked... maybe the way they dressed was 90's punk influenced, but other than that, I think it's more rock metal emo????? I dunno, I could be really off.

[moonspider]

too bad it's dead :(

[Gregory]

what makes grunge, grunge?

is there a certain 'grunge' look, aside from looking like a clone of Kurt Cobain?

and is grunge still around?????

Grunge, to me, was a rhythm-heavy, guitar-reliant style that downplayed vocal clarity for the paramount sound layering, and in that regard, they owe a lot to REM. Grunge was a rejection of studio-polished sterile rock and pop, everything from Whitney to Paula to Warrant. And to divorce themselves from that shiny sound, grunge built textures of noise. Nirvana, especially, was influenced by teh whisper-scream of The Pixies, but Guns N Roses were the post-hair metal band to open the mainstream door for grunge. Without GNR, grunge stays below the radar.

The look? Just layer your clothes for comfort and don't stress over stains and rips.

I would say grunge exists as the lingering aggro sound, but we've gone back to the New Wave rock sound (Franz Ferdinand, KIllers, etc).

[Blake Sims]

I would say grunge exists as the lingering aggro sound, but we've gone back to the New Wave rock sound (Franz Ferdinand, KIllers, etc).
thank god
(mostly directed towards Franz Im not a big Killers fan)

[Alex(sadly)Maleev]

just wondering:

Please help me out and list off some Grunge bands

what makes grunge, grunge?

is there a certain 'grunge' look, aside from looking like a clone of Kurt Cobain?

and is grunge still around?????
You're doing this on purpose. Nice Soma. Stabbing in the back. Nice. :cry:

[Gregory]

I don't know about the punk thing. I grew up loving punk, but nothing about Grunge music struck me as anything I liked... maybe the way they dressed was 90's punk influenced, but other than that, I think it's more rock metal emo????? I dunno, I could be really off.

Don't confuse the Ramones style of quick pop with "punk." Punk was anything you wanted it to be, any measure you chose to get your story across. It encompassed Television, Blondie, Bad Brains, Ramones, the Slits, and others. But grunge, because those guys all moved in the same circle, embraced a sound that supposedly mirrored their climate. I dunno. I don't hear "Seattle" when I hear Nirvana.

[ThisSpaceForRent]

Grunge pretty much started and ended with Candlebox.

[Blake Sims]

I don't hear "Seattle" when I hear Nirvana.
All I hear is suck. Bwahahahaha. I crack me up.

[Taki Soma]

You're doing this on purpose. Nice Soma. Stabbing in the back. Nice. :cry:
:Please:

I loves ya, this is actually for research. I swear.

[Taki Soma]

Don't confuse the Ramones style of quick pop with "punk." Punk was anything you wanted it to be, any measure you chose to get your story across. It encompassed Television, Blondie, Bad Brains, Ramones, the Slits, and others. But grunge, because those guys all moved in the same circle, embraced a sound that supposedly mirrored their climate. I dunno. I don't hear "Seattle" when I hear Nirvana.
I never said anything about the Ramones. I've been listening to punk rock for... almost 20 years so I'm not just stuck on one type of punk rock. I know there are different 'kinds'

[wh park]

I always saw Grunge as this progression of the American Indy scene from the 80s mixed with a heavier rock sound with a twinge of punk.

So artists like Sonic Youth, REM, Afghan Whigs in my mind, were like influences on what later became Grunge.

[Gregory]

I never said anything about the Ramones. I've been listening to punk rock for... almost 20 years so I'm not just stuck on one type of punk rock. I know there are different 'kinds'

You originally said :Originally Posted by Taki Soma
I don't know about the punk thing. I grew up loving punk, but nothing about Grunge music struck me as anything I liked

Is it possible they sounded like punk acts you didn't like?

[Taki Soma]

You originally said :Originally Posted by Taki Soma
I don't know about the punk thing. I grew up loving punk, but nothing about Grunge music struck me as anything I liked

Is it possible they sounded like punk acts you didn't like?
no

[BrianS]

One of the best bands of the grunge era was Catherine Wheel, and I HIGHLY recommend the new CD from their lead singer, Rob Dickinson, "Fresh Wine For The Horses."

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

look into some just pre-grunge influences, like The Melvins, The Pixies, and Mother Love Bone

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

and it looked like the grunge sound was coming back for one hot second with The Vines, The Hives, and The White Stripes, and too a lesser extent The Strokes who took alot more from Sonic Youth than Mudhoney

[justjeffery]

Grunge was just metal without the hair-spray...

Soundgarden didn't seem to get mentioned...

[Donal DeLay]

Taki listens to punk?! But ... i've seen you at conventions. Even talked to you for a second .... you're like, proper, and neat ... and polite. If I pictured you listening to ANY music it was Enya, Yanni, or Bond.

Grunge isn't dead, it's just not popular anymore.

[BrianS]

Grunge was just metal without the hair-spray...

Soundgarden didn't seem to get mentioned...


Or the guitar solos...where's Yngwie Malmsteen when ya need him?

[justjeffery]

Or the guitar solos...where's Yngwie Malmsteen when ya need him?

Good call, my usually politically motivated friend.. good call.

Malmsteen or Steve Vai.. either would do fine...

:D

[justjeffery]

Or the guitar solos...where's Yngwie Malmsteen when ya need him?

That just reminded me of the time I got kicked out of religion class for wearing a shirt that said Yngwie is God on it...

[Cth]

Grunge was just metal without the hair-spray...

Soundgarden didn't seem to get mentioned...

Second post.

And what about those who listen to Punk AND Enya? :)

[Cth]

That just reminded me of the time I got kicked out of religion class for wearing a shirt that said Yngwie is God on it...

My best friend was ridiculed by the teacher for an Anthrax shirt.

[Gregory]

Second post.

And what about those who listen to Punk AND Enya? :)

I always wanted her to make a gangsta rap so she could changer her name to Enya Face.

[Cth]

I always wanted her to make a gangsta rap so she could changer her name to Enya Face.

You're on a roll today.. you and Mike D should team up and do a Q&A thread :)

.. ala VOLTRON style.

[Taki Soma]

Taki listens to punk?! But ... i've seen you at conventions. Even talked to you for a second .... you're like, proper, and neat ... and polite. If I pictured you listening to ANY music it was Enya, Yanni, or Bond.

Grunge isn't dead, it's just not popular anymore.
yep, been listening to it for almost 2 decades.

I don't look like I read comics either, but I do!

and I love Enya.

[Alex(sadly)Maleev]

:Please:

I loves ya, this is actually for research. I swear.
Mine was for a research as well. I swear.

[Taki Soma]

look into some just pre-grunge influences, like The Melvins, The Pixies, and Mother Love Bone
not really interested either in the non-grunge department even if it is influence...

I mean thanks everyone, but I am doing research and I need to know SPCIFICALLY, anything about GRUNGE, and nothing else. Thanks. But that's not to say we can't discuss it here... so .... errr.... carry on I guess. :scared:

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

i've always seen Grunge as more of an angry bluegrass than a dirty heavy metal, and think it had more influence from Neil Young than anyone else

[Taki Soma]

i've always seen Grunge as more of an angry bluegrass than a dirty heavy metal, and think it had more influence from Neil Young than anyone else
hrm... yea

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

not really interested either in the non-grunge department even if it is influence...

I mean thanks everyone, but I am doing research and I need to know SPCIFICALLY, anything about GRUNGE, and nothing else. Thanks. But that's not to say we can't discuss it here... so .... errr.... carry on I guess. :scared:
you can trust me, i'm probably one of the grungier people you know

[King of Mars]

I think grunge was about more than just a look and/or being associated with a particular scene. I think there was an actual "grunge" sound, which was exemplified by bands like Nirvana, Mudhoney, and certain others I'm not recalling right now. They combined the thrash and ferocity of bands like Black Flag and The Melvins with the garage rock sound of bands like the MC5 and the Stooges and the pop sensibility of the Pixies. Yeah, plenty of other bands got lumped into the "grunge" classification because they came from the same scene and had a similar aesthetic but, really, a lot of them (Soundgarden, AIC, Pearl Jam) were just metal bands/classic rock bands that were being improperly classified.

[deadboy]

Maybe you could give an aspect of grunge you are looking for? I mean it's been stated that punk is more than just X. Well I'd say the same about grung. I don't think musically Alice in Chains and Motherlovebone were REALLY the same style. But they are both being lumped in to grunge. Whatcha looking for in this? Maybe we could help better if we knew more.

[Taki Soma]

Maybe you could give an aspect of grunge you are looking for? I mean it's been stated that punk is more than just X. Well I'd say the same about grung. I don't think musically Alice in Chains and Motherlovebone were REALLY the same style. But they are both being lumped in to grunge. Whatcha looking for in this? Maybe we could help better if we knew more.
... it's for a character, and he loves Grunge music. But I know almost nothing about it but I wanted him to have a pretty extensive understanding of that genre.

[Rod Nunley]

... it's for a character, and he loves Grunge music. But I know almost nothing about it but I wanted him to have a pretty extensive understanding of that genre.

If he is a character in the current era, and young, you are hosed...cause there is really nothing like that era of music about now. At least nothing well known.

If it's a period peice and he is a kid in the early to mid-ninties he's listening to: Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Jane's Addiction (can't believe no on mentioned them), Mother Love Bone, Sonic Youth, That Dog, Hole, The Breeders, The Pixies, Leonard Cohen, The Meat Puppets, anything on the Sub Pop or DGB (or is it DBG) labels and maybe some of The Cure or Bad Religion cause they are always popular with that scene.

We are about the same age Taki...how on earth could you be of that decade and not be familier with Grunge?

Oh, and anyone who says they liked Candlebox back then was a poser or a Narc...

PM me if you need further assistance...all that was off the top of my head...I can do some more research when I get home tonight.

[Taki Soma]

If he is a character in the current era, and young, you are hosed...cause there is really nothing like that era of music about now. At least nothing well known.

If it's a period peice and he is a kid in the early to mid-ninties he's listening to: Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Jane's Addiction (can't believe no on mentioned them), Mother Love Bone, Sonic Youth, That Dog, Hole, The Breeders, The Pixies, Leonard Cohen, The Meat Puppets, anything on the Sub Pop or DGB (or is it DBG) labels and maybe some of The Cure or Bad Religion cause they are always popular with that scene.

We are about the same age Taki...how on earth could you be of that decade and not be familier with Grunge?

Oh, and anyone who says they liked Candlebox back then was a poser or a Narc...

PM me if you need further assistance...all that was off the top of my head...I can do some more research when I get home tonight.

well, the character is in current times, but he just can't let go of the grunge scene.

so he's about my age, (29) and refuse to grow up...

I don't know why I know nothing about grunge. Probably because I avoided it like the plague.

[deadboy]

hehe, candlebox.

So yeah, is this a fan from back in that day that never changed(lousy dirthead) or is it someone in that time? Knowledge of the old Sub Pop label will be vital. In my head I'm picturing a music snob with a vast knowledge of influences, but you said you don't need that so I'm probably just pulling from my vast knowledge of jackasses from that era.

[Taki Soma]

hehe, candlebox.

So yeah, is this a fan from back in that day that never changed(lousy dirthead) or is it someone in that time? Knowledge of the old Sub Pop label will be vital. In my head I'm picturing a music snob with a vast knowledge of influences, but you said you don't need that so I'm probably just pulling from my vast knowledge of jackasses from that era.
read post right above yours. :D

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

and i'll see you on the flippity flop

[Rod Nunley]

well, the character is in current times, but he just can't let go of the grunge scene.

so he's about my age, (29) and refuse to grow up...

I don't know why I know nothing about grunge. Probably because I avoided it like the plague.

Oh...I had no idea you were writing me into a comic book. :)

I am a big fan of that scene. Let me know what kind of info you need (band members names and whatnot) and I can help out. I am a Grunge music nerd.

[badpoet]

I listened to some grunge, but I got pretty hardcore into alternative stuff a couple of years before grunge really hit, so it wasn't nearly as "different" for me as for the hair metal freaks.

[Taki Soma]

Oh...I had no idea you were writing me into a comic book. :)

I am a big fan of that scene. Let me know what kind of info you need (band members names and whatnot) and I can help out. I am a Grunge music nerd.
perfect.

you're my go to guy then. Thank you vey much.

[Taki Soma]

oh and the look... I mean... any examples of how the look of the grunge scene was? not the bands, but the fans.

any particularily quirky lingo that went with the scene?

were they into anti-establishment bleeding heart liberal or hardcore steel republican types?

so much to know...

[King of Mars]

oh and the look... I mean... any examples of how the look of the grunge scene was? not the bands, but the fans.

any particularily quirky lingo that went with the scene?

were they into anti-establishment bleeding heart liberal or hardcore steel republican types?

so much to know...Just rent this...

http://www.hollywoodoutsider.com/pictures/hype.jpg

Should answer most, if not all, of your questions.

[badpoet]

Think flannel over concert tee shirts. Ripped or tattered jeans. Longish, kind of greasy hair.

Ethan Hawke in Reality Bites or Matt Dillon in Singles are good source material.

[Taki Soma]

Think flannel over concert tee shirts. Ripped or tattered jeans. Longish, kind of greasy hair.

Ethan Hawke in Reality Bites or Matt Dillon in Singles are good source material.
thanks! that's very helpful.

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

oh and the look... I mean... any examples of how the look of the grunge scene was? not the bands, but the fans.

any particularily quirky lingo that went with the scene?

were they into anti-establishment bleeding heart liberal or hardcore steel republican types?

so much to know...
http://www.impawards.com/1997/posters/suburbia.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/1995/posters/doom_generation_ver3.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/1992/posters/singles.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/1994/posters/clerks.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/1994/posters/reality_bites.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/1991/posters/my_own_private_idaho_ver1.jpg
(a personal favorite)

[badpoet]

Don't sound so surprised : )

There wasn't necessarily a lingo that I recall, it more like a slightly apathetic movement than a way of life.

[Taki Soma]

http://www.impawards.com/1997/posters/suburbia.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/1995/posters/doom_generation_ver3.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/1992/posters/singles.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/1994/posters/clerks.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/1991/posters/my_own_private_idaho_ver1.jpg
(a personal favorite)
I'm not sure I understand.

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

I'm not sure I understand.
hollywood's look into the grunge side of life

[badpoet]

They don't allow direct linking.

The movies he was referencing for the look were Singles, Clerks, Suburbia, Doom Generation, and My Private Idaho, I presume.

[Rod Nunley]

Think flannel over concert tee shirts. Ripped or tattered jeans. Longish, kind of greasy hair.

Ethan Hawke in Reality Bites or Matt Dillon in Singles are good source material.

YES! and Singles is a great movie to watch. The characters were in thier mid twenties then, so a little older than your character...but the attitude and style is dead on.

[Taki Soma]

They don't allow direct linking.

The movies he was referencing for the look were Singles, Clerks, Suburbia, Doom Generation, and My Private Idaho, I presume.
great, I'll look them up later.

[Taki Soma]

YES! and Singles is a great movie to watch. The characters were in thier mid twenties then, so a little older than your character...but the attitude and style is dead on.
my character will be in late 20's or early 30's. :D

[Georgie]

Green River, Mudhoney, Meat Puppets, Mono Men (good luck finding anything by them without having to order it) Tad, The Young Fresh Fellows, and the Screaming Trees are sort of like...the must haves about the Seattle "scene". And Built to Spill...Ok, I know they're not grunge, but honestly, who didn't/doesn't listen to them CONSTANTLY.

[Taki Soma]

Green River, Mudhoney, Meat Puppets, Mono Men (good luck finding anything by them without having to order it) Tad, The Young Fresh Fellows, and the Screaming Trees are sort of like...the must haves about the Seattle "scene". And Built to Spill...Ok, I know they're not grunge, but honestly, who didn't/doesn't listen to them CONSTANTLY.
me

[Georgie]

me

Well you need to start, dammit! Download "The Big Dipper" by them, and be forever changed.

[Taki Soma]

Well you need to start, dammit! Download "The Big Dipper" by them, and be forever changed.
nah, I can tell you I won't like it.

it's just a personal thang. ;)

[Ziolko]

I stand by my opinion that Soundgarden "Superunknown" is the best grunge album ever made.

[Taki Soma]

I stand by my opinion that Soundgarden "Superunknown" is the best grunge album ever made.
tell me why, please.

I really want to nail this character down as someone who's REALLY into Grunge.

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

http://ultimatecomics.free.fr/gen13/images/divers/grunge5.jpg
?

[Ziolko]

tell me why, please.

I really want to nail this character down as someone who's REALLY into Grunge.

Low gutteral guitars and insane drumming backed by Chris Cornell singing about depression and apocolypse. Grunge, to me, is the art of caring about not caring. It's giving up on a world that is fucked up beyond repair. It's very cynical and pessimistic.

But goddamn if it doesn't kick some ass and take some names.

[KingMob]

I stand by my opinion that Soundgarden "Superunknown" is the best grunge album ever made.

I stand by my opinion that you are insane.

[Taki Soma]

Low gutteral guitars and insane drumming backed by Chris Cornell singing about depression and apocolypse. Grunge, to me, is the art of caring about not caring. It's giving up on a world that is fucked up beyond repair. It's very cynical and pessimistic.

But goddamn if it doesn't kick some ass and take some names.
cool, thanks! this is very helpful.

[Ziolko]

I stand by my opinion that you are insane.

I stand by my opinion that you are a turnip.

[KingMob]

just imagine a hippie wearing flannel taki, you'll be fine.

[Ziolko]

just imagine a hippie wearing flannel taki, you'll be fine.

Hippies who pay twice as much for their clothes, that is.

[KingMob]

Hippies who pay twice as much for their clothes, that is.

ha!

george lucas is the godfather of grunge, you can quote me on that. its the flannel and the fact that he went indy on the prequels by self-financing them all you see.

[Agent Desmond]

Go rent Hype

Screming Trees, Mudhoney, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Tad, Candlebox, Hammerbox, Green River, Mother Love Bone, U-Men, Girl Trouble, etc etc

[Georgie]

nah, I can tell you I won't like it.

it's just a personal thang. ;)

Ok, but don't say I didn't warn you. Not only was it super influential, it's just a damn good song.