john romita jr is one of the worst artist's working today

[RODGER]

that first issue of the sentry looked like shit. thank god paul jenkins is such a good writer. he's the reason that book is so good. i can't believe anyone looked at romita's art and said that this looked good....

[Shannon Chenoweth]

I LOVE Romita's work. But, I wasn't as much in love with his take on The Sentry's look. I very much miss JRjr on ASM.

[Itemeleven]

To each his own, but I find him to be a damn neat artist. I really like his style.

[LenNWallace]

Yeah?

Opie & Anthony suck!

[TomBelandTSSTG]

Romitas all rule

[RODGER]

Yeah?

Opie & Anthony suck!

once in a while they do.....

but romita sucks all the time!!!!!!

[Flonk]

He's very good, but he's not as good as people make him out to be.

[RODGER]

Romitas all rule

tom, you know i love you to death.....
but did you really look at the art in the sentry????? IT STINKS!!!!!

[Smokinblues]

you are 100 percent wrong. see an eye doctor.

[RODGER]

you are 100 percent wrong. see an eye doctor.

do i need to post images?????

[Itemeleven]

He's very good, but he's not as good as people make him out to be.

Sniff, I grew up on the guy in Spider and X-Men :(

[Smokinblues]

do i need to post images?????

no, you need to have your eyes checked.

[Len Ford]

Sentry's not his best work but he's a great artist. I loved his work on Amazing Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Incredible Hulk.

-Len

[Shannon Chenoweth]

No way, we are not starting a trend of bashing creators tonight. You only did this because of Miguel's thread anyway Roger.

[innocentboy]

didn't get that issue, but most of the time i love his art

[RODGER]

no, you need to have your eyes checked.

hey, my glasses work just fine!!!

:)

[Flonk]

Sniff, I grew up on the guy in Spider and X-Men :(

I like his work, but I don't think he's a "super star" artist. He works best when he's on a title for a long run, not doing 6 issues here and there.

[RODGER]

Sentry's not his best work but he's a great artist. I loved his work on Amazing Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Incredible Hulk.

-Len

his Amazing Spider-Man was readable......but that's the best i can say about him...

[Your Pal, Carl]

I love Romita's work, especially on Man Without Fear and Thor.

[Susan BANthony]

Personally, I'm not a fan of his artwork (I'm not digging the blockiness of his characters), but I do have to say that he's a great storyteller, and that's more important.

[RODGER]

No way, we are not starting a trend of bashing creators tonight. You only did this because of Miguel's thread anyway Roger.

thats cause romita's work stinks so bad he needs his own thread!!!!

[Flonk]

Also, in the case of Wolverine (and probably Sentry, but I haven't read that one) place the blame on Klaus Janson, one of the worst inkers in the buisness. He doesn't ink over the pencils, he just uses them as a guideline and draws whatever he feels like on top.

[Your Pal, Carl]

his Amazing Spider-Man was readable......but that's the best i can say about him...
I wasn't sure I was going to like him on Spider-man, but I ended up really enjoying it. :)

[RODGER]

Personally, I'm not a fan of his artwork (I'm not digging the blockiness of his characters), but I do have to say that he's a great storyteller, and that's more important.

ok....i'll give that....
he does know how to tell a story. there are artists out there that are good but are unable to make a comic flow.

but the art in those panels are not very good.

[Shannon Chenoweth]

thats cause romita's work stinks so bad he needs his own thread!!!!

JRjr's Spidey with JMS got me into Spider-man! I will forever love Romita Jr.

[RODGER]

JRjr's Spidey with JMS got me into Spider-man! I will forever love Romita Jr.

um....maybe you should throw some of that love to JMS....he's the reason that book was as good as it was.

[Smokinblues]

roger is the new ds9

[RODGER]

roger is the new ds9

DS9?
that was nothing but a babylon 5 ripoff!!!!!

[WinterRose]

M'sorry. I gots to disagree. Seeing how JRJr.s art has evolved over the last 10 years... He's improving and making strides forward with every book he does.

Liefield on the other hand...

[Shannon Chenoweth]

um....maybe you should throw some of that love to JMS....he's the reason that book was as good as it was.

It was a combination of both those guys.

[Susan BANthony]

While everyone has their right to an opinion, it would probably be a bit more productive to say WHY you don't like an artist, rather than just slam them. For example, I don't like JRJr's blocky characters, or the way he does cheekbones.

If you're going to say something is shitty, backing it up is a important.

[Len Ford]

I love Romita's work, especially on Man Without Fear and Thor.

Almost forgot about Thor and Man Without Fear... both of which were really good.

-Len

[Agent Desmond]

I'll be sure not to loan you my copy of Marvel Visionaries John Romita JR when it comes out

[Simps]

I liked it better when Hanna was inking him on ASM. Sentry still looks good, but not quite as polished as ASM.

[The Roman Candle]

I think he's good at what he does, but unfortunately what he does is rather ugly. Everyone has the exact same frying pan face. Honestly, I like JRJR more than I like Paul Jenkins. At least with jrjr I might buy his comics if the writer is someone I like. But I wouldn't buy a Jenkins comic no matter who was drawing it.

[Len Ford]

M'sorry. I gots to disagree. Seeing how JRJr.s art has evolved over the last 10 years... He's improving and making strides forward with every book he does.

Liefield on the other hand...

Yeah, his adjectiveless Spider-Man title work a few years ago was way more blocky than it is now. At first I was indifferent to his work because of the blocky nature of his art but now I think he's great.

-Len

[Simps]

I'll be sure not to loan you my copy of Marvel Visionaries John Romita JR when it comes out

What's going to be contained in that? I may have to pick one up, myself.

[batmanbooyah]

Helen!!!!!!!

[Len Ford]

I think he's good at what he does, but unfortunately what he does is rather ugly. Everyone has the exact same frying pan face. Honestly, I like JRJR more than I like Paul Jenkins. At least with jrjr I might buy his comics if the writer is someone I like. But I wouldn't buy a Jenkins comic no matter who was drawing it.

Just out of curiousity, why don't you like Jenkins?

-Len

[The Roman Candle]

Just out of curiousity, why don't you like Jenkins?

-Len

His writing. I find his storylines to be something out of bad (and I mean BAD) fanfiction and his characterizations to laughable, even when not trying to be funny.

[Joel]

When I was a kid I'd about quit reading comics. That cat pulled me back in with his mid/late 80ish Daredevil run. Stylistic, but I like his style. I think he's chosen for/picks good scripts extremely well and I'd buy about anything he had a hand on.

[Agent Desmond]

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #229-230, #36, ANNUAL #11;
IRON MAN #128 and #256;
UNCANNY X-MEN #183 and #309;
STAR BRAND #1;
DAREDEVIL #253;
PUNISHER WAR ZONE #1;
DAREDEVIL: MAN WITHOUT FEAR #1-2; and
HULK #25 and #34.

[Angel of Distraction]

You're wrong. End of discussion.

[Flonk]

Yeah, his adjectiveless Spider-Man title work a few years ago was way more blocky than it is now. At first I was indifferent to his work because of the blocky nature of his art but now I think he's great.

-Len

I saw some stuff he did early in his carreer that looked just like his dad's work. He's created a nice style for himself now.

[Flonk]

I think he's good at what he does, but unfortunately what he does is rather ugly. Everyone has the exact same frying pan face. Honestly, I like JRJR more than I like Paul Jenkins. At least with jrjr I might buy his comics if the writer is someone I like. But I wouldn't buy a Jenkins comic no matter who was drawing it.

Then you are missing out on some incredibly good comics.

[Len Ford]

His writing. I find his storylines to be something out of bad (and I mean BAD) fanfiction and his characterizations to laughable, even when not trying to be funny.

Fair enough. For me, Jenkins is very hit or miss. I liked his original Sentry story but his Spider-Man stuff wasn't my favorite. This was at a time when his title was the "good" Spidey title. I just could never put my finger on it at the time. Who knows... might've been a combo of the art (I like Ramos on other title, just don't dig his mainstream work)and the story that wasn't doing it for me.

-Len

[The Roman Candle]

Then you are missing out on some incredibly good comics.

You're fat.




Haha, just kidding. But seriously man, lose weight.

[Lord Jermaine Retail]

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #229-230, #36, ANNUAL #11;
IRON MAN #128 and #256;
UNCANNY X-MEN #183 and #309;
STAR BRAND #1;
DAREDEVIL #253;
PUNISHER WAR ZONE #1;
DAREDEVIL: MAN WITHOUT FEAR #1-2; and
HULK #25 and #34.
Word up, Desmond! I've always liked JRJr and his was one of the first names I learned when I started paying attention to such things. His work on Armor Wars II was what got me into Iron Man and subsequently kept me there. His work on Uncanny X-men was great too, especially the stuff with Nimrod and Juggernaut vs Colossus. He's one of those artists who can tell a story with his pictures but also convey motion and strength through his art as well. When he draws Hulk or Thor really leaning into a punch you can almost feel it. And I love it when he draws a beaten and bruised hero as well. I love him on Marvel super heroes (Black Panther is the only time I have been unable to support a title with him on art duty).

[Your Pal, Carl]

Almost forgot about Thor and Man Without Fear... both of which were really good.

-Len
Man without Fear is my favorite story ever. And a lot of it has to do with Romita's art. At the time I wasn't really into his style, but it just blew me away in this story. It was a perfect match with Miller's script.

[Angel of Distraction]

I bet he knows how to pluralize the word artist.

[The Roman Candle]

I bet he knows how to pluralize the word artist.

I think once you've posted in a thread, it's too late to go back and do the "SHIT, I SHOULD HAVE MOCKED THE SPELLING OF THE SUBJECT LINE!" schtick.

[Taxman]

You only did this because of Miguel's thread anyway Roger.Actually, I think it is just the night for blatant errors in thread titles. I think I'll go bump my "dindicted" thread.

[Angel of Distraction]

I think once you've posted in a thread, it's too late to go back and do the "SHIT, I SHOULD HAVE MOCKED THE SPELLING OF THE SUBJECT LINE!" schtick.

Cry me a river, boy.

[Your Pal, Carl]

Actually, I think it is just the night for blatant errors in thread titles. I think I'll go bump my "dindicted" thread.
:lol:

[The Roman Candle]

Actually, I think it is just the night for blatant errors in thread titles. I think I'll go bump my "dindicted" thread.

Wait, so that really was a spelling error? Shit... I've been using that word and teaching it to everyone I talk to.

[Agent Desmond]

I love his work in Uncanny X-Men he really just nails the anger that Rachel had, the hurt that Kitty would carry around and he really made Wolverine out to look like what he really is. Plus #210 is one of my favorite covers for X-Men

http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97792366288.210.GIF

[Taxman]

Wait, so that really was a spelling error? Shit... I've been using that word and teaching it to everyone I talk to.No it was a typo, and just part of a string of errors I made around that time.

[changingshades]

No, no no

YOU suck

JRjr kicks ass, and I have the issue of Sentry. But go ahead post images, I"ll put them in my sig, y'poncey bastard

[Agent Desmond]

Ok, I would rather Jae Lee do Sentry again... but I don't think that JRjr is doing a bad job on it. And shit... I'm going to say that he drew the best Terrax ever. Sorry Bags, but I liked his version better

[changingshades]

JRjr's Spidey with JMS got me into Spider-man! I will forever love Romita Jr.
You should try and hunt down his first run with Roger Stern

best spidey ever


EVER

[Your Pal, Carl]

You should try and hunt down his first run with Roger Stern

best spidey ever


EVER
Has it been collected yet?

[Agent Desmond]

Roger Stern's stuff is here and there in collections. But sadly, there isn't a collection dedicated to his run on ASM.

[changingshades]

Word up, Desmond! I've always liked JRJr and his was one of the first names I learned when I started paying attention to such things. His work on Armor Wars II was what got me into Iron Man and subsequently kept me there. His work on Uncanny X-men was great too, especially the stuff with Nimrod and Juggernaut vs Colossus. He's one of those artists who can tell a story with his pictures but also convey motion and strength through his art as well. When he draws Hulk or Thor really leaning into a punch you can almost feel it. And I love it when he draws a beaten and bruised hero as well. I love him on Marvel super heroes (Black Panther is the only time I have been unable to support a title with him on art duty).
while I agree he's good on big heros, I think he does his best work on street level stories. His Daredevil was great when it was on the street, and dirty. I'd absolutly kill to see Bendis work with him on a mob story.

[changingshades]

I bet he knows how to pluralize the word artist.
I'm sorry, but that really made me laugh

[changingshades]

Has it been collected yet?
not as it should be, in a Marvel Visionairies. Hell, I'm going to go start a thread. Be right back

[Your Pal, Carl]

not as it should be, in a Marvel Visionairies. Hell, I'm going to go start a thread. Be right back
:D

[Marcdachamp]

I LOVE JR. I know there's a few who dislike him, but he is honestly one of my all-time favorite artists. I absolutely loved The Sentry. I miss him so much on ASM (Deodato is MUCH better as a cover artist and should remain as such) and his Wolverine run was great as well.

[Creep]

The name of this thread upsets me. :sad:

John Romita's Kingpin rips my skull in half.
His Spidey art is off the charts.
Hooray for John Sr.!

Wow...Im done..I thought this was a Sr. thread..not a junior..I need a nap.

Romita Jr. draws a kick ass Bishop...there ya go..good night.

[sonnylarue]

as far as I'm concerened, it's the same style as on any other JRJR book, you either like his tyle or not.

I do.

[JeremyDale]

john romita jr is one of the worst artist's working today

Hey, cool-- you've automatically rendered your opinion void and pointless in my eyes from here on out. :roll:

[changingshades]

:D
okay back

:D

[Los]

I like him.

[TonyFleecs]

Ok, I would rather Jae Lee do Sentry again... but I don't think that JRjr is doing a bad job on it. And shit... I'm going to say that he drew the best Terrax ever. Sorry Bags, but I liked his version better
I think he also draws the best Cable in the business... and Forge.

[TheKraken]

that first issue of the sentry looked like shit. thank god paul jenkins is such a good writer. he's the reason that book is so good. i can't believe anyone looked at romita's art and said that this looked good....

Many people are wrong about many things everyday. But few are as wrong as you are today. Congratulations. :D

[Mark Mavro (kryptic6)]

Dude, why don't you post images to back up your point? I will say this: Romita Jr. draws the best Spider-Man EVER!! Outside of that, not so much a fan of the big guy. Some of stuff in the Sentry issue was a little below standards for him.

[Calvin]

I used to think that john romita jr was the worst artist in comics. That was until his run on Bruce Jones' "Incredible Hulk" and JMS's "Amazing Spiderman". He really stepped up his game during that time. He put more detail in to his work and it made a big difference. Before then, his work was really blanned and sometimes ugly. Now, his work on Wolverine was uneven. I think that has to do with Klaus Janson on inks. Am I the only one who thinks he sucks?

Calvin

[TIP]

You should try and hunt down his first run with Roger Stern

best spidey ever


EVER

Agreed.

That was a great run.

His X-work left me cold.

His DD was awesome (with Ann Nocenti and Frank Miller)

And then his second stint on Spidey was also quite good as was his Hulk run.

T

[Angel of Distraction]

I used to think that john romita jr was the worst artist in comics. That was until his run on Bruce Jones' "Incredible Hulk" and JMS's "Amazing Spiderman". He really stepped up his game during that time. He put more detail in to his work and it made a big difference. Before then, his work was really blanned and sometimes ugly. Now, his work on Wolverine was uneven. I think that has to do with Klaus Janson on inks. Am I the only one who thinks he sucks?

Calvin

SPELLING NAZI!

http://www.nukeisrael.com/AN2004/nazi-blond.jpg

[cory w]

I think he also draws the best Cable in the business... and Forge.

You obviously haven't seen Mignola's Cable.

But yeah, JRjr. is one of my favorites.

[S!]

that first issue of the sentry looked like shit. thank god paul jenkins is such a good writer. he's the reason that book is so good. i can't believe anyone looked at romita's art and said that this looked good....

I'll pretend I didn't just read this

[Evil Sprout]

You obviously haven't seen Mignola's Cable.



Arf!

I like JrJr but he took a long time to come out from his fathers shadow. You see interviews and he's obviously very insecure in his talent.
His father, however, is my favourite comic artist ever. His is, to me, the definitive spidey.

[FredC]

JrJr's stuff has always (to me) looked best when inked by Scott Hanna. Everyone else just doesn't bring it to life quite the way Hanna does.

[joespam]

I used to think that john romita jr was the worst artist in comics. That was until his run on Bruce Jones' "Incredible Hulk" and JMS's "Amazing Spiderman". He really stepped up his game during that time. He put more detail in to his work and it made a big difference. Before then, his work was really blanned and sometimes ugly. Now, his work on Wolverine was uneven. I think that has to do with Klaus Janson on inks. Am I the only one who thinks he sucks?

CalvinSucks is a little strong. I will say that I don't like his inking style at all and find it to detract from any penciller I like that I've seen it on. He uses thick, uneven lines and does things to facial expressions that I really don't like.

[BENDIS!]

roger, you are officially insane.

jr jr is a master storyteller of mainstream comics. i am waiting in line to work with him,

[ds9]

I love his art and I think hes a very nice guy who works very hard to keep his deadlines and put out quality work. Hes in the Mark Bagley list of dependable and quality go to artists.

[ds9]

roger, you are officially insane.

jr jr is a master storyteller of mainstream comics. i am waiting in line to work with him,He could do a beautiful New avengers annual written by you. Just a thought. :D

[ds9]

DS9?
that was nothing but a babylon 5 ripoff!!!!!They were both one of the good shows that had actual character developement for the entire cast. :D

[Evan the Shaggy]

My favorite JR JR stuff is his run on Thor. That was some fantastic stuff.

[modungo]

JrJr is one of two worthwhile artist working in comics today. The other one is Bagley. If JrJr doesn't do it for you I'm sure Grabelle Del Otto has a book not coming out for you to enjoy.

[Chris Moreno]

http://static.flickr.com/1/38082_96b4e7313c.jpg

[Ray G.]

He's very overrated. His style suits some books, like ASM, to a tee. But on a big superhero book like Sentry, it's just awful.

[TomBelandTSSTG]

I'm just trying to understand why someone sits down and rips on a guy who's doing nothing more than getting his work done. It's his job and the man puts out a ton of it. Not just an occassional issue or two... but he gets prime assignments which, I'm sure, comes with huge pressure.

So, when a complete stranger sits down at the keyboard and begins a thread like this... I try to get a fix on what his goal is. I mean, really... what is the motivation behind typing this crap about Romita? Did he not sign something for you at a con and this is how you get back? Did he not answer your emails?

Because, I've never understood it. Never. Ever.

Because, I'm assuming that if John were standing in front of you, you'd never in a million years come out with "you're one of the worst artists." I'm even guessing you'd ask for a sketch. There's a huge difference between not understanding an art style and just labelling an artist as the worst in the business. The thing I can't stand about the internet is that it gives people who couldn't walk to a person's table at a con the balls to do nothing more than rip on their art online.

The man doesn't get the volume of work he gets by being a "suck" artist. As a matter of fact, I'd say Romita does more with his work than his attackers do in their chosen fields. He still gets to the drawing board, researches his subjects, renders the backgrounds, etc... with the same professional manner that his father did.

Insecure in his talent..? Jesus, his father is JOHN ROMITA!!! Do you think a Jack Kirby Jr. would be a bit insecure of his work..? Can you imagine a Stan Lee Jr. trying to create new characters..? You're ALWAYS going to worry that people are going to compare your style to your famous father/mother's work. It's insane to assume he wouldn't. That's not just a shadow...it's a friggin' eclipse.

He had one of the most famous artists in comics as a father... not to mention they're both so close. That he not only kept up with the workflow that rivals his father's, but has also been able to develop his own style speaks volumes about the man.

I WISH I could knock out pages like Jr. does... and I'd like to think I'm pretty good. But if I put my work up against John's...? Get out of here... it's not even close. I may be a better artist, as far as cartooning in a simplistic style... but John is an actual artist. And I've never met the guy.

I'd probably geek out if I did.

My rant is over.

[Evil Sprout]

Hey, I wasn't criticising when I said he seemed insecure in his talent. It was just an observation, and an honest one.

[TomBelandTSSTG]

Hey, I wasn't criticising when I said he seemed insecure in his talent. It was just an observation, and an honest one.

I understand that... I'm just saying that it's natural for someone who's father is one of the most famous artists in the history of Marvel to BE a bit insecure. The pressure to be as good as his father is would be huge.

Not hating on you, bro.

[Flonk]

I used to think that john romita jr was the worst artist in comics. That was until his run on Bruce Jones' "Incredible Hulk" and JMS's "Amazing Spiderman". He really stepped up his game during that time. He put more detail in to his work and it made a big difference. Before then, his work was really blanned and sometimes ugly. Now, his work on Wolverine was uneven. I think that has to do with Klaus Janson on inks. Am I the only one who thinks he sucks?

Calvin

Janson is the worst.

[Lord Jermaine Retail]

I'm just trying to understand why someone sits down and rips on a guy who's doing nothing more than getting his work done. It's his job and the man puts out a ton of it. Not just an occassional issue or two... but he gets prime assignments which, I'm sure, comes with huge pressure.

So, when a complete stranger sits down at the keyboard and begins a thread like this... I try to get a fix on what his goal is. I mean, really... what is the motivation behind typing this crap about Romita? Did he not sign something for you at a con and this is how you get back? Did he not answer your emails?

Because, I've never understood it. Never. Ever.

Because, I'm assuming that if John were standing in front of you, you'd never in a million years come out with "you're one of the worst artists." I'm even guessing you'd ask for a sketch. There's a huge difference between not understanding an art style and just labelling an artist as the worst in the business. The thing I can't stand about the internet is that it gives people who couldn't walk to a person's table at a con the balls to do nothing more than rip on their art online.

The man doesn't get the volume of work he gets by being a "suck" artist. As a matter of fact, I'd say Romita does more with his work than his attackers do in their chosen fields. He still gets to the drawing board, researches his subjects, renders the backgrounds, etc... with the same professional manner that his father did.

Insecure in his talent..? Jesus, his father is JOHN ROMITA!!! Do you think a Jack Kirby Jr. would be a bit insecure of his work..? Can you imagine a Stan Lee Jr. trying to create new characters..? You're ALWAYS going to worry that people are going to compare your style to your famous father/mother's work. It's insane to assume he wouldn't. That's not just a shadow...it's a friggin' eclipse.

He had one of the most famous artists in comics as a father... not to mention they're both so close. That he not only kept up with the workflow that rivals his father's, but has also been able to develop his own style speaks volumes about the man.

I WISH I could knock out pages like Jr. does... and I'd like to think I'm pretty good. But if I put my work up against John's...? Get out of here... it's not even close. I may be a better artist, as far as cartooning in a simplistic style... but John is an actual artist. And I've never met the guy.

I'd probably geek out if I did.

My rant is over.
I agree with you on all counts.

[PoWerSurge]

JrJR is very hit or miss with me

I can appreciate his style, but I don't really enjoy it. I've found I like Deodato much better on Spidey. When I compare to other Spidey's drawn, JRJr always looked rather awkward.

Sentry was very choppy in places. It looked very rough to me, I don't know how to explain it.

I'm not saying he's bad, just that it's not my taste

I really am not looking forward to him being on Spidey again

[greg donovan]

I love his art and I think hes a very nice guy who works very hard to keep his deadlines and put out quality work. Hes in the Mark Bagley list of dependable and quality go to artists.

yet again i find myself agreeing w/ds9!

you like something, this makes me happy to see. there is still hope for your inner child.

[Gavin]

I Romita's work is great. I bought the Black Panther HC because he was the artist. I also loved his work on Millar's run on Wolverine. I haven't seen the art in Sentry, but if it's like his usual stuff, then I'm sure it's great.

[ERNIE_E]

He may not draw he prettiest babes in town but that's why we have Frank Cho, Adam Hughes and Tony Harris right? JR JR like Mignola have cut a corner out of the comic book artists' world that is their own. There are so many artists who just ape their idol their entire life, or are in the shadows of their mentor (I love Ryan Sook, but you can't separate him being Mignola's assistant/apprentice). THey make no apologies and don't listen to critics, they just keep plugging away and doing things their way.

JR JR's art grew on me, some of his work like Iron Man and Uncanny didn't connect to me like his DD, Thor, and Spidey have. But boy when they connect... they really connect. Whenever he's on a book, I know it will be a reliable comic, in that I will get a story told and communicated in a top flight manner. I may not always get that communication but there's always that potential for it with his work, which is rare to say about a lot of artists. And to always get this love/hate reception is an awesome thing because that means that people pay attention to your work. How many artists can say that too?

[moonspider]

im one of his many fans....i love his art
although i preffer him on ASM

[Evil Sprout]

I've got a nice Daredevil portfolio by him that I'm going to get framed when I get myself sorted out.

[moonspider]

I've got a nice Daredevil portfolio by him that I'm going to get framed when I get myself sorted out.



his man without fear work is the stuff of legends in my mind

[Eddy Newell]

M'sorry. I gots to disagree. Seeing how JRJr.s art has evolved over the last 10 years... He's improving and making strides forward with every book he does.

Liefield on the other hand...

Winter Rose is a genius!

[LazyComix]

As someone who has worked with Romita, lettering his pencils on Amazing Spider-Man (issue #500 being one of them) and his Wolverine run (with Millar), I can't sit here and let people rip this guys work.

My job as a letterer is to make my work invisible, and the better the artist I'm working with, the easier that is to do. After almost 5 years of working with a lot of artists, JRJR is probably the first guy I think of when I'm asked: "Who's your favorite artist to letter."

Reason being: he makes my job so easy its insane.

Every character is in perfect position for placement of balloons, if there’s more than one character in a panel, they are all in perfect speaking order. Facial expressions reflect the balloon I’m making… be it a normal balloon, or a crazy Chris Eliopoulos style shout balloon….. Every single time, Romita is dead on. Issue after issue, page after page, panel after panel.

Meaning, I can just lay the balloons, side by side, and the reader looks at the art and reads the story and his/her eye flows right through the page without missing a beat. It may sound meaningless, but it’s vital to a good comic. And its something that is overlooked far too often.

Beyond drawing pretty pictures, Romita is telling a story extremely well. I’d say he’s the best at it. That’s not to slight other guys I’ve worked with, but for some reason, Romita is a guy that I love working with and who stands out to me. There’s more to penciling comics than drawing pretty pictures…. First and foremost, it’s telling a story… and again, Romita is amazing at doing that.

So say you don’t like his style, etc. But calling him the “worst” is so far off base its ridiculous.

That’s my 2 cents… from a guy who’s worked with him.

[Pat Loika]

He is one of the BEST storytellers in comics.

P.

[SethInAz]

He's just inconsistent IMO. There were times in ASM that it was good, bad, rushed, detailed... all over the spectrum. The first few Wolverine issues were amazing, but then it kind of went bland for me.

[Victor Cabanelas]

The guy´s my hero. Maybe he wasn´t the right guy to draw the Sentry, maybe whoever´s inking him is making a bad job, maybe you just don´t like his work, but he´s one of those guys that makes comicbooks one of the best (if not the best) forms of comunication of this world.

[Adam Witt]

A lot of Romita's work depends on his inker. Klaus Janson is the worst inker in comics today, and seems to be doing a lot of Romita's stuff--but when he gets a different inker, it looks so much better. I think his Sentry stuff is far superior to anything he's done in a long time, personally.

[PhilipClark]

I strongly disagree with this thread's statement.

[Victor Cabanelas]

A lot of Romita's work depends on his inker. Klaus Janson is the worst inker in comics today, and seems to be doing a lot of Romita's stuff--but when he gets a different inker, it looks so much better. I think his Sentry stuff is far superior to anything he's done in a long time, personally.

I can´t agre with that either. Just because you don´t like Janson´s work, it doesn´t mean that he´s a bad inker. Same goes for Sienkiewicz or even Liefeld.

[A.Huerta]

JrJr is the shizniz, what you smokin'?

[Flonk]

I can´t agre with that either. Just because you don´t like Janson´s work, it doesn´t mean that he´s a bad inker. Same goes for Sienkiewicz or even Liefeld.

I go the other way. Just because you like the guy's art style doesn't mean he's a good inker.

[Victor Cabanelas]

I go the other way. Just because you like the guy's art style doesn't mean he's a good inker.

That´s why I usually don´t use terms like "good" o "bad" in art. They are relative.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[greg donovan]

That´s why I usually don´t use terms like "good" o "bad" in art. They are relative.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

yep, people should use the terms like and dislike when applied to things like art.

[Flonk]

That´s why I usually don´t use terms like "good" o "bad" in art. They are relative.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder


Well, when talking about art you're saying "In my opinion he is a good artist" but the "in my opinion" part is implied; because, as you say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Thus "He is a good artist"

[changingshades]

roger, you are officially insane.

jr jr is a master storyteller of mainstream comics. i am waiting in line to work with him,
oh thank you sweet baby jesus

[NickT]

On the right title, JrJr is great stuff.

[Allgold]

Wow, John Romita jr. is one of the worst artists in comics? Klaus Janson is the worst inker in comics? What is this, Bizzaro world? So who's good? Mike Turner? Rob Liefeld? Hello? Maybe JR jr. wasn't the best choice as the artist for a book like Sentry, but c'mon, one of the worst? Not a chance. I would say he's one of the best. Definately in my top 20, he's had some "classic" runs.

[johnny whiplash]

Everyone is someone's favorite. And someone's favorite is likely another person's least.

But as opinions go, this one is sort of fucked in the ear, you know? I can understand someone maybe not finding the images as they exist individually to be pleasing to the eye (though it's not an opinion I share), but skill is undeniable. And I can think of few if any people working today who are better at weaving those images into a story than Romita Jr.

[Xander Boune]

There's no way I would consider JRjr one of the worst artists working today, but his style is definitely not for me. I can see that his storytelling is great, but the work itself comes off pretty ugly to my eyes. Someone earlier mentioned the similarities of the character's faces, as well as the ugly women cheekbones. Damn does he draw some vile women. Everything also comes off as very thin and two-dimensional. Additionally, I'm not a big fan of the "blockiness" of his art, though I think it worked pretty well with the Hulk character.

To keep this relatively positive, I will say that he's particularly good at rainy graveyard scenes.

[NickT]

I liked it better when Hanna was inking him on ASM. Sentry still looks good, but not quite as polished as ASM.
I wasn't a fan of JrJr/Hanna, I didn't think they blended together well. I like JrJr/Jansen and JrJr/Morales (The Sentry team) though.



But I wouldn't buy a Jenkins comic no matter who was drawing it.
Roger, you're off the hook. Candle has a worse opinion than you ;)



Ok, I would rather Jae Lee do Sentry again... but I don't think that JRjr is doing a bad job on it. And shit... I'm going to say that he drew the best Terrax ever. Sorry Bags, but I liked his version better
I like Lee, but I think he'd be wrong for this Sentry mini from what we've seen.

[RODGER]

Roger, you're off the hook. Candle has a worse opinion than you ;)




i agree.
jenkins is a great writer!

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

oh, come on
even i like Romita Jr

[joeAR]

I love JrJr's work and everything he puts out I have to buy, but to each their own, yo.

[Calvin]

SPELLING NAZI!

http://www.nukeisrael.com/AN2004/nazi-blond.jpg

I'm so ashamed

Calvin "the spelling nazi"

[Calvin]

Can't believe I Forgot 'bout his daredevil work with Frank Miller. It was awesome. AWESOME!

Calvin

[changingshades]

oh, come on
even i like Romita Jr
Hey Jacob, did you like Grey Area, JR's creator owned miniseries?

[TomBelandTSSTG]

Hey Jacob, did you like Grey Area, JR's creator owned miniseries?

I loved the art.. but the story was a bit weak. But, JR's not really a writer... just like I'm not really. But, he could work on it and be great in no time.

Jesus... this is such a negative thread.

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

Hey Jacob, did you like Grey Area, JR's creator owned miniseries?
haven't read it, i only really know his work from the DD mini he did with Miller when i was a kid
but i remember it being pretty damn good

[changingshades]

I loved the art.. but the story was a bit weak. But, JR's not really a writer... just like I'm not really. But, he could work on it and be great in no time.

Jesus... this is such a negative thread.
my thoughts exactly

[Mike McNeely]

I didn't read this whole thread. I just saw the title and thought BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ROMITA RULES!

[The Roman Candle]

Jesus... this is such a negative thread.

You're fat.

[Boris the Blade]

May not be the most eye-catching, but his storytelling skills are fantastic. Clearest fight scenes ever.

[ScotiaNova]

And the good news is that Romita jr will finally be doing the oft-mooted Punisher Max run once his schedule clears up.

[Chris McCarver]

Raven, good to see ya back, dude.

Back on topic, Romita drew the first Spidey book I ever read and the first X-book I ever read. Kinda biased in his favor.

[Doug]

JRJR is my favorite artist working today. He tells a story perfectly and I love his style. He's the only reason I bought the first 6 issues of Black Panther. I understand not every artist is for everyone, but I refuse to say someone sucks.

Even my least favorite artist can draw rings around me, so I have to give him some credit.

And Bendis if you are waiting to work with JRJR can't you pull some strings? How could you let Millar get his chance before you did?

[mattbrand]

I like most of what JRjr does. Some of his stuff looks a bit rushed sometimes, but I love his style overall.

That pic of wolverine that he drew in the last of his issues with Millar (which is in my avatar) is one of my favorite pictures ever.

[changingshades]

And the good news is that Romita jr will finally be doing the oft-mooted Punisher Max run once his schedule clears up.
god

I wish Bendis would write this as a mini

that would rock all sorts of ass

[sto110]

that first issue of the sentry looked like shit. thank god paul jenkins is such a good writer. he's the reason that book is so good. i can't believe anyone looked at romita's art and said that this looked good....

you are so wrong its not even funny. His style may not impress you but his classic iconic pencils will always be my favorite.

[Bandit Chimera]

i liked the book. the art wasn't my fav. but it wasn't aweful thats for sure

[Bigbeltz]

I'm not a fan of his work AT ALL. It's far too blocky/cartoony for me, and often looks rushed, IMO. He was the reason I couldn't read ASM, and I ALMOST dropped Wolverine when he came on.

I have read some of his old Iron Man work, and amazingly, I thought it looked about a hundred times better than his modern stuff. It's kind of a shame that his work seems to have devolved for me...

[ScotiaNova]

god

I wish Bendis would write this as a mini

that would rock all sorts of ass
No it'll be written by Ennis as part of the regular Max series.

[dion]

JRJR is the greatest comics artist ever. :)
I hope he returns to ASM asap. :)

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

Romita is one of those artists who are so overly stylistic that I completely understand why some people utterly hate his work, while others absolutely love it. Hell I'm in both camps, depending on th project. His stuff is so stylized to the point that sometimes it works against the tone of a book, while on other books, it fits the tone perfectly. There are a LOT of comic artists today that are in this vein, doesn't mean they're work is bad or good, just that it is what it is, and sometimes it doesn't work, and sometimes it works amazingly. I lve JRJr's Man Without Fear, absolutely HATED his UnCanny stuff, his Hulk ruled, didn't care for his Spidey at all, LOVED his work on Wolverine, and I haven't quite made up mymind on his Sentry. Maleev is another guy like this, I love the guy's stuff, he's a talented motherfucker. I love his DD work, I look at that and I'm all "Jesus this guy is fucking awesome!" On the other hand, if Maleev were to do, oh, let's say Superman, it just wouldn't work, it would be a case where his style would work against the tone of the character, and I would most likely look at that book and think "Oh man, this guy is bloody awful!" Even though it's the same style of art.

[changingshades]

Romita is one of those artists who are so overly stylistic that I completely understand why some people utterly hate his work, while others absolutely love it. Hell I'm in both camps, depending on th project. His stuff is so stylized to the point that sometimes it works against the tone of a book, while on other books, it fits the tone perfectly. There are a LOT of comic artists today that are in this vein, doesn't mean they're work is bad or good, just that it is what it is, and sometimes it doesn't work, and sometimes it works amazingly. I lve JRJr's Man Without Fear, absolutely HATED his UnCanny stuff, his Hulk ruled, didn't care for his Spidey at all, LOVED his work on Wolverine, and I haven't quite made up mymind on his Sentry. Maleev is another guy like this, I love the guy's stuff, he's a talented motherfucker. I love his DD work, I look at that and I'm all "Jesus this guy is fucking awesome!" On the other hand, if Maleev were to do, oh, let's say Superman, it just wouldn't work, it would be a case where his style would work against the tone of the character, and I would most likely look at that book and think "Oh man, this guy is bloody awful!" Even though it's the same style of art.
y'know, I'd actually like to see what Maleev does with Superman.

[BrianS]

I've always said he is solid on layouts, but his line work is crap. He draws the worst faces I've ever seen. Everyone looks like they're sucking in their cheeks.

[ScotiaNova]

y'know, I'd actually like to see what Maleev does with Superman.
Wasn't he the artist on Superman/Predator (or somesuch) a few years ago? Admittedly his style has evolved since then, but if you want your Maleev/Superman love it is already out there.

[NickT]

Wasn't he the artist on Superman/Predator (or somesuch) a few years ago? Admittedly his style has evolved since then, but if you want your Maleev/Superman love it is already out there.
Yeah, he was. Want me to try and find a scan?

[deadboy]

His work is way too blocky and everyone he draws (I can vividly see his atrocious DD work when I say this) look like they have lincoln logs for fingers.

His dad? A master. Too bad the apple fell so far from the tree. :no:

[changingshades]

Yeah, he was. Want me to try and find a scan?
yes please

[RebootedCorpse]

JRJr is the shit. People who don't like him probably think Liefield rocks. (Oh, yeah, I went there!)

[NickT]

yes please
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/ReaperFett/SupermanPredator1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/ReaperFett/SupermanPredator2.jpg

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

i enjoy how he drew mullets on everyone up until about 3 years ago

[joeAR]

I, personally, love Romita Jr's work and think he's a master of his craft.

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/ReaperFett/SupermanPredator1.jpg
somebody read a lot of Mignola that week

[changingshades]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/ReaperFett/SupermanPredator1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/ReaperFett/SupermanPredator2.jpg
thanks nick