All junk food and fizzy drinks to be banned from schools.

[kelemanga]

In my opinion the government are nuts. If they think that it'll help they are wrong. It'll
1. Cause horrible problems if a kid has a hypo
2. Make me run out of energy in p.e
3. Enrage fatasses.
Plus they are thinking of closing down sweet shops near schools. So they are ruining peoples careers and peoples lives.. Good job government. 'Helping out'

[Victor Cabanelas]

That´s one of the best things your school can do.

[half guard]

1. Cause horrible problems if a kid has a hypo

do what?


2. Make me run out of energy in p.e

bull. try eating a healthy, balanced diet and drinking plenty of water. you'll have TONS more energy throughout the day and be much better off than you were with a short, unhealthy energy burst from candy


3. Enrage fatasses.

i don't see how this is a problem.


Plus they are thinking of closing down sweet shops near schools.

i think they're wrong for that. i can understand trying to encourage kids to eat more healthy foods at school, but to try to regulate businesses like that who are near the school is ridiculous.

[sto110]

its one thing to not actively sell those items in school but another to "ban" them

[tjtolosa]

I totatlly agree with this. Kids are very unlikely to make healthy choices on their own, so the best option is to leave them with nothing but healthy choices by eliminating junk food.

[Ben]

Good.

[twigglet]

Meh, I don't mind really, some of the things they serve at our school are so full of fat it's disgusting. I rarely but hot dinners.

PS, if you eat right, you will be much more prepared for P.E then short bursts of energy you get from chocolate

[TIP]

In my opinion the government are nuts. If they think that it'll help they are wrong. It'll
1. Cause horrible problems if a kid has a hypo

Why? Is said student going to inject frosting directly into their veins?



2. Make me run out of energy in p.e


How much energy do you need for Four Square?



3. Enrage fatasses.


Well...that's for the sake of comedy.



Plus they are thinking of closing down sweet shops near schools. So they are ruining peoples careers and peoples lives.. Good job government. 'Helping out'

Sweet Shop or Sweat Shop?

T

[amy]

Yay! Maybe we will benefit from less spastic threads.

[RebootedCorpse]

I'm all for this. There is no reason for schools to be providing this stuff to kids.

[Ray G.]

This crap has been going on in the US too. There's got to be more important things the government could be doing.

[SimiBoyz]

What's up?

little boy not allowed sweeties?

You want a Mars bar?

mmmm?

a mars bar is that?

you want one?

Well you can't have one.

[Generic Poster]

I'm all for banning the sale of this shit in schools, but banning possession seems a little extreme.

[NickT]

So people actually get some details :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4287712.stm

Junk food to be banned in schools

Foods high in fat, salt or sugar are to be banned from meals and vending machines in English schools.
The ban, from next September, has been announced by Education Secretary Ruth Kelly at the Labour Party conference.

Vending machines in schools will not be allowed to sell chocolates, crisps or fizzy drinks, Ms Kelly announced.

The School Meals Review Panel next week will give details of the nutritional standards for ingredients to be allowed in school meals.

Junk food scandal

"I am absolutely clear that the scandal of junk food served every day in school canteens must end," said Ms Kelly.

"So today I can announce that we will ban poor quality processed bangers and burgers being served in schools from next September."

The review panel, an expert advisory group, was set up after a campaign to improve school meals by TV chef Jamie Oliver.

In response, the government promised extra funding to bring the primary school meal budget up to 50p per pupil per day, with 60p for secondaries - and created the panel to set minimum nutritional standards.

These will be introduced from this term - and will become mandatory from September 2006.

Monitoring the standards of food served to pupils will be part of the responsibility of Ofsted school inspectors.

Speaking on BBC Breakfast, Ms Kelly said it was "common sense" that some sorts of foods should be excluded from school menus.

"For example, meat products that are made from reconstituted meat slurry that bears no resemblance to the original product."

But plans to raise the standard of school food will not benefit pupils in local authorities where there is no school meals service.

Shadow education secretary David Cameron said: "We welcome this belated U-turn from Ruth Kelly. At the election ministers rejected Conservative proposals to extend a ban on junk food to vending machines, so this is a positive step."

Kitchen staff

But tighter standards were only part of the solution.

"They must be backed by sufficient resources for schools to provide the extra staff and kitchen facilities required - two crucial elements which are not being met in many schools."

Welsh Education Minister Jane Davidson said: "In Wales we have already set up a new group which will be looking at how to improve the quality and nutritional standards of school meals and to ensure we have a consistent and coherent approach to driving forward improvements in food and nutrition in our schools."

Nutritional standards were introduced a few years ago for meals in Scotland's schools, which typically spend more on ingredients than those in England.

The Northern Ireland School Caterers Association says schools there cook from fresh ingredients and do not rely as heavily on convenience foods as those in England.

'Deprived communities'

As well as presenting plans to improve school food, Ms Kelly also pointed to the priorities of her forthcoming White Paper - including the need for greater parental choice.

"Every parent should be able to choose the school that is right for their child.

"For too long, access to some schools has only been open to those who could afford to buy an expensive house next to a good school, while the rest were told to accept what they'd been given. There was nothing fair about that approach," she said.

She promised more good schools, improved transport, advice for parents and fair admissions.

And she emphasised the importance of city academies, "working at the heart of our most deprived communities".



I don't see any possession.

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

DEATH TO THE FAT KIDS!!!!!
tubby motherfuckers.....

[bstie1198]

Yay! Maybe we will benefit from less spastic threads.

:rofl:

I know funny, and that's funny!

[Jim T.]

So people actually get some details :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4287712.stm


I don't see any possession.


"meat slurry"? :scared:

The hell's going on over there?

[Ray G.]

DEATH TO THE FAT KIDS!!!!!
tubby motherfuckers.....

Dude, you're really an 80 year-old man who had his brain transplanted into an accident victim, aren't you? ;)

[Brian Defferding]

Dude, you're really an 80 year-old man who had his brain transplanted into an accident victim, aren't you? ;)

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[kelemanga]

What's up?

little boy not allowed sweeties?

You want a Mars bar?

mmmm?

a mars bar is that?

you want one?

Well you can't have one.

Actually I kinda can walk to the store in the morning and get my sweets. I need them or I go low on energy

[Amos Moses]

Schools wouldn't need to whore themselves out to snack companies if the Government funded them.

[kelemanga]

I'm all for reducing the daily intake of fat and unsaturated sugars but taking away the simple chocolate bars and fizzy drinks? Some people need this stuff to live.

[Bill!]

Its a public entity, and its for the welfare and health of the public. So the government can go balls to the walls if they like. I'm all for it. There are way too many unhealthy people in this country.

[kelemanga]

Well Bill if that's your approach then I expect you not to touch any junk food, fizzy drinks, sweets or anything remotely fatty for the rest of your life. There's what you tell people to do and what you do. If you can't do it yourself then it means you have a problem.

[RebootedCorpse]

I worry about the unsupervised access to this stuff.

[Yano]

Well Bill if that's your approach then I expect you not to touch any junk food, fizzy drinks, sweets or anything remotely fatty for the rest of your life. There's what you tell people to do and what you do. If you can't do it yourself then it means you have a problem.

That's an interesting comeback.

They're not banning junkfood from kids' lives, just from the schools, which are run by the government, so they could do whatever they want.

...and if someone 'can't live without' junkfood for 8 hours a day, that's sad indeed.

[kelemanga]

That's an interesting comeback.

They're not banning junkfood from kids' lives, just from the schools, which are run by the government, so they could do whatever they want.

...and if someone 'can't live without' junkfood for 8 hours a day, that's sad indeed.
People who can't live without sweets aren't sad. E.g. diabetics and people who have hypos. They NEED sugar.

[Bill!]

Well Bill if that's your approach then I expect you not to touch any junk food, fizzy drinks, sweets or anything remotely fatty for the rest of your life. There's what you tell people to do and what you do. If you can't do it yourself then it means you have a problem.

As Yano said, its completely different from being taken out of schools, than banning it from you ever being able to use it. The government can do this if it likes, since it serves a public health interest, which I fully agree with. I'm not overweight, I'm actually pretty healthy. If I want to have the occasional snack on my own every once in a while, I can do it if I want. There's a HUGE difference there.

[kelemanga]

As Yano said, its completely different from being taken out of schools, than banning it from you ever being able to use it. The government can do this if it likes, since it serves a public health interest, which I fully agree with. I'm not overweight, I'm actually pretty healthy. If I want to have the occasional snack on my own every once in a while, I can do it if I want. There's a HUGE difference there.
I'm healthy. I take 10 grams less than aloud fat and 500 grams less than the amount of kcal. I just have lots of friends who need junk food. I know one guy who has an eating disorder and if you take away junk food from school they won't be able to concentrate enough.

[amy]

People who can't live without sweets aren't sad. E.g. diabetics and people who have hypos. They NEED sugar.


Diabetics do not need excess sugar unless their sugar goes too low and that is a last resort.

People with hypoglycemia need to eat a balanced diet. They do not need to eat excess sugar either.


It's all about maintaining a healthy lifestyle and diet, not eating sugar.

[amy]

I'm healthy. I take 10 grams less than aloud fat and 500 grams less than the amount of kcal. I just have lots of friends who need junk food. I know one guy who has an eating disorder and if you take away junk food from school they won't be able to concentrate enough.


:coughbullshitcough:


Nobody needs junkfood to survive. It may take someone a few weeks to stop craving it, but they can live without it.

[RebootedCorpse]

Schools wouldn't need to whore themselves out to snack companies if the Government funded them.
Word.

[Boris the Blade]

Having high sugar, high fat foods in schools and cafeterias, well, when you're a teen there's no buts, most are going to go for it. I did, and my weight spiked during high school. I could've gone with the healthy stuff, but well, the stuff that was worse for you was cheaper, and more readily available, plus I didn't so much care for taking care of myself then, so I just nabbed it. A lot of kids around my table would. After most of us got out of high school we all started losing a bit of weight. Take most of these things away, and then kids'll settle for the good stuff, or hike it to stores to buy their junk, and at least then they're getting exercise.

[Adam Witt]

What's up?

little boy not allowed sweeties?

You want a Mars bar?

mmmm?

a mars bar is that?

you want one?

Well you can't have one.

POST OF THE DAY! Jesus Christ, that's funny...

[half guard]

you guys / gals do realize that you're debating a 12 year old who just last week replied to himself 7 times in a thread in less than 5 minutes?

[Boris the Blade]

you guys / gals do realize that you're debating a 12 year old who just last week replied to himself 7 times in a thread in less than 5 minutes?
You do realize you were debating with this same person point by point earlier in the same thread. :) ;)

[half guard]

You do realize you were debating with this same person point by point earlier in the same thread. :) ;)

i just refuted his original, ridiculous claims. once he replied back about people dying from not getting candy bars, i bowed out as it was clear he was making a fool of himself.

[Boris the Blade]

Now you know the fun of the thread.

The more we argue, the crazier Kelemanga gets!

Sugar has tiny robots in it that make you impotent!

[kelemanga]

*starts crying*

[kelemanga]

Oh I'm jonad....

[ds9]

I totatlly agree with this. Kids are very unlikely to make healthy choices on their own, so the best option is to leave them with nothing but healthy choices by eliminating junk food.Exactly because of the side deals alot of junk food places made with school administrators to sell that junk to kids is a crime in itself.

[The Cheap-Arse Film Critic]

I wish this had been done when I was at school. Maybe I wouldn't be in the state I am now. Of course, I only say maybe.

And, as for kids with conditions that sugar can help with, I'm sure most schools will be stocked up with medication to help them is something happens. there's also nothing stopping them from carrying an emergancy bar of chocolate or can of Coke around in their bags, just in case.

[The Cheap-Arse Film Critic]

Oh I'm jonad....

Who's Jonad?