Sheehan Meets McCain, Calls Him a 'Warmonger'

[PoWerSurge]

WASHINGTON (Sept. 28) - Peace mom Cindy Sheehan didn't change her opposition to the war in Iraq after meeting Tuesday with one of its supporters, Sen. John McCain, a Vietnam veteran whom she called "a warmonger."

Sheehan thanked McCain for meeting with her, but she came away disappointed.

"He tried to tell us what George Bush would have said," Sheehan, who protested at the president's Texas home over the summer, told reporters. "I don't believe he believes what he was telling me."

McCain, R-Ariz., also seemed disappointed in the meeting, which he said had been misrepresented as including some of his constituents. Only one person in her small delegation has ties to the state, and that person no longer lives there.

The two exchanged views about the war, and McCain described the conversation as "a rehash" of opinions already well known. He said he might not have met with Sheehan had he known none of his constituents was in the group.

Although McCain has criticized the handling of the Iraq war, he has supported President Bush's call to stop terrorism abroad before it reaches the U.S. Sheehan, whose son, Casey, died in Iraq last year, has energized the anti-war movement with her call for troops to be brought home.

"He is a warmonger, and I'm not," Sheehan said after meeting with McCain. "I believe this war is not keeping America safer."

"She's entitled to her opinion," McCain said. "We just have fundamental disagreements."

Sheehan's conference with McCain was one of several scheduled this week as part of her campaign to persuade members of Congress to explain the reasons for the war. She spoke before a massive anti-war rally Saturday on the National Mall and was arrested Monday demonstrating in front of the White House.

Sheehan and McCain had met once before, shortly after the funeral of her son. Sheehan said Tuesday that McCain told her then that her son's death was "like his buddies in Vietnam" and that he feared their deaths were "for nothing." McCain, however, denied he made such a statement.

Later, Sheehan cut short her appearance at the University of Maryland, leaving a rally after about 10 minutes.

Karen Pomer, a spokeswoman for Sheehan, said, "She's exhausted and she's not feeling well, but she intends to meet her obligations."

[GelfXIII]

Well, she aint wrong. He does support the "War on Terror" concept. But I'm not sure she's helping her cause by slamming one of the most moderate repubs out there.

[xyzzy]

Well, she aint wrong. He does support the "War on Terror" concept. But I'm not sure she's helping her cause by slamming one of the most moderate repubs out there.

He's really not that moderate. He's just not afraid to break with the party on issues where they don't agree.

[GelfXIII]

You are right. Moderate is the wrong term. Reasonable is perhaps a better word.

[RøcketFrøg]

I don't think name-calling gets anyone very far.

[Bill Nolan]

She uses the label "warmonger" like it's somehow bad or something... weird.

- Bill

[RøcketFrøg]

She uses the label "whoremonger" like it's somehow bad or something... weird.

- Bill

fixed that

[artimoff]

Gahd, I hate this woman. Put a bullet in her already. Even Hillary disses her.

[Ray G.]

She's really starting to piss me off. But then, she opposed the war in Afghanistan. I can't take anyone who opposed the war in Afghanistan seriously in the least.

[RøcketFrøg]

Gahd, I hate this woman. Put a bullet in her already. Even Hillary disses her.
Ohhh, so that's what a warmonger is...

[artimoff]

Ohhh, so that's what a warmonger is...


FUCK YEAH!!!!

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/team_america__world_police/ta5.jpg

[RøcketFrøg]

FUCK YEAH!!!!

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/team_america__world_police/ta5.jpg
I wish I could get into Team America more. It seemed so flat to me.

[RebootedCorpse]

MCain always has this look on his face like he's stepped in shit when he is forced to support W.

[NATE!]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-09-28-sheehan-mccain_x.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-09-28-sheehan-mccain_x.htm)

[Bill Nolan]

Gah! I knew it! Separated at birth:

http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2005/09/28/sheehan.jpg& http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/06/gore.bush.01/link.john.kerry.ap.jpg

Put a fork in her, she's done...
- Bill

[Kenneth I. Wolfe]

Gahd, I hate this woman. Put a bullet in her already. Even Hillary disses her.

Wow, she bothers you that much.

Touchy.

[RebootedCorpse]

Gahd, I hate this woman. Put a bullet in her already. Even Hillary disses her.
You need help.

[yeamon]

She uses the label "warmonger" like it's somehow bad or something... weird.

- Bill

Kinda like what has become of the word "liberal".

[jordan michael]

you know the coffee chock full o' nuts? well this woman is fucking chock full o' crazy.


hey mrs. sheegan, guess who signed up to die in a war? your son.

[Thudpucker]

the way people hate Sheehan, you'd think she started a War based on lie that killed thousands of people or something.

[Generic Poster]

Why would Charlie Sheehan do that? He made his fucking bones with "Platoon."

[King of Mars]

Why would Charlie Sheehan do that? He made his fucking bones with "Platoon."Idiot! That's not who we're talking about here. We're discussing ex-David Lee Roth/Mr. Big bassist Billy Sheehan. Get with the fucking program!

"Addicted to that rush! Addicted to that rush!"

http://music.box.sk/fotky/sheehan16.jpg

[RøcketFrøg]

Idiot! That's not who we're talking about here. We're discussing ex-David Lee Roth/Mr. Big bassist Billy Sheehan. Get with the fucking program!

"Addicted to that rush! Addicted to that rush!"

http://music.box.sk/fotky/sheehan16.jpg
I'm the one who wants to be with you.
Deep inside I hope you feel it too.

[sonnylarue]

This was really a dumbmove by Sheehan. The fact that no AZ people were there for the McCain meeting was a bad starting point,and to call McCain a "warmonger" is just DUMB

[Amos Moses]

This was really a dumbmove by Sheehan. The fact that no AZ people were there for the McCain meeting was a bad starting point,and to call McCain a "warmonger" is just DUMB


I agree. I'm really starting to lose patience with Sheehan.

[NickBurgess]

the way people hate Sheehan, you'd think she started a War based on lie that killed thousands of people or something.

For real.

[RebootedCorpse]

Sheehan's not a politician, she is not a professional policy wonk or spokesperson. She is a mother who's son died at the whim of the lying, corrupt, draft-dodging GW Bush.

[xyzzy]

Sheehan's not a politician, she is not a professional policy wonk or spokesperson. She is a mother who's son died at the whim of the lying, corrupt, draft-dodging GW Bush.

She's also a loon. I feel sympathy for her and I appreciate what she's trying to do, but her 15 minutes should have been over some time ago.

[Shane W]

Sheehan's not a politician, she is not a professional policy wonk or spokesperson. She is a mother who's son died at the whim of the lying, corrupt, draft-dodging GW Bush.

That's one way to say it, another way to say it is that she asked to be put in this position by calling attention to herself and using her son's death to further her own agenda. She asked to be put in this position, it wasn't just thrust on her unwillingly.

[sonnylarue]

Sheehan's not a politician, she is not a professional policy wonk or spokesperson. She is a mother who's son died at the whim of the lying, corrupt, draft-dodging GW Bush.

sure but that doesn't excuse the idea that MCCain was told that his constituents would be in that meeting, and none were there.

that's really dumb, and misleading , and makes her look bad.

you don't need to be "slick willy" or "Tricky Dick" to know that's bad .

[sonnylarue]

That's one way to say it, another way to say it is that she asked to be put in this position by calling attention to herself and using her son's death to further her own agenda. She asked to be put in this position, it wasn't just thrust on her unwillingly.

very true, you put yourself out there in that arena, you have to be smart about your public comments, especially after this long period of time, in the spotlight.

[RebootedCorpse]

That's one way to say it, another way to say it is that she asked to be put in this position by calling attention to herself and using her son's death to further her own agenda. She asked to be put in this position, it wasn't just thrust on her unwillingly.
I guess if you call not wanting anyone else's children to die in a pointless war an "agenda", then yes she is furthering it. It is one way for her son's death to be for something more than the political agenda of Bush.

[Shane W]

I guess if you call not wanting anyone else's children to die in a pointless war an "agenda", then yes she is furthering it. It is one way for her son's death to be for something more than the political agenda of Bush.

Of course it's an agenda, why quote it to make it look bad? She's about as genuine as the leather seats in my old Volare.

[sonnylarue]

Of course it's an agenda, why quote it to make it look bad? She's about as genuine as the leather seats in my old Volare.

Unlike you, I don't doubt Sheehan's sincerity .Her solution just isn't a simple one, just like GW's isn't either.

[Shane W]

Unlike you, I don't doubt Sheehan's sincerity .Her solution just isn't a simple one, just like GW's isn't either.

Well to be fair, I don't think GW is genuine either.

[Kensington]

Unlike you, I don't doubt Sheehan's sincerity .Her solution just isn't a simple one, just like GW's isn't either.Actually, her solution is very simple: blame everything on the jews.

[Kensington]

Sheehan's not a politician, she is not a professional policy wonk or spokesperson. She is a mother who's son died at the whim of the lying, corrupt, draft-dodging GW Bush.That's why I love the left: the right could be falling apart right before their eyes, and the left still can't resist making with the crazy and shooting yourselves in the foot.

Serving in the National Guard = draft dodging? :-? :lol:

[sonnylarue]

Actually, her solution is very simple: blame everything on the jews.

that's a really rude way to cloud her real comments,

shameful, and a bit ignorant.

[Bill Nolan]

Yeah, don't twist her words. It's not "Jews" so much as our "Zionist" and "Israeli" puppet masters that are the problem...

- Bill

[Kensington]

Yeah, don't twist her words. It's not "Jews" so much as our "Zionist" and "Israeli" puppet masters that are the problem...Don't forget "neocon," the most acceptable code for "jew" that she binges on. What could I have been thinking? I'm deeply ashamed of myself. Of course Cindy doesn't blame the jews. She just surrounds herself with and embraces those who hate the jews for her.

[RebootedCorpse]

That's why I love the left: the right could be falling apart right before their eyes, and the left still can't resist making with the crazy and shooting yourselves in the foot.

Serving in the National Guard = draft dodging? :-? :lol:
Going AWOL, getting out early, using personal conections to avoid combat, spending all his time on the beach in Houston while others died in a war he supported.
Yeah, that's called dodging.

[NATE!]

Going AWOL, getting out early, using personal conections to avoid combat, spending all his time on the beach in Houston while others died in a war he supported.
Yeah, that's called dodging.

No it's not. Undue preferential treatment maybe, but not draft dodging.

[RebootedCorpse]

No it's not. Undue preferential treatment maybe, but not draft dodging.
Seminatics. He avoided active duty overseas, he dodged.

[NATE!]

Seminatics. He avoided active duty overseas, he dodged.

So by your definition, any military personnel who wasn't in Vietnam during that period was a draft dodger?