School Expels Girl for Having Gay Parents

[PoWerSurge]

ONTARIO, Calif. (Sept. 23) - A 14-year-old student was expelled from a Christian school because her parents are lesbians, the school's superintendent said in a letter.

Shay Clark was expelled from Ontario Christian School on Thursday.

"Your family does not meet the policies of admission," Superintendent Leonard Stob wrote to Tina Clark, the girl's biological mother.

Stob wrote that school policy requires that at least one parent may not engage in practices "immoral or inconsistent with a positive Christian life style, such as cohabitating without marriage or in a homosexual relationship," The Los Angeles Times reported in Friday's edition.

Stob could not be reached for comment by the newspaper. Shay and her parents said they won't fight the ruling.

School administrators learned of the parents' relationship this week after Shay was reprimanded for talking to the crowd during a football game, Tina Clark said.

Clark and her partner have been together 22 years and have two other daughters, ages 9 and 19.

[The Human Target]

Lesbiowned!!

[RebootedCorpse]

Christian love in action.

[sto110]

this stuff makes me ashamed to be catholic
its one thing to be against a lifestyle its another thing to fuck someone over who has NOTHING to do with that lifestyle. Its thier fucking parents.

[Taxman]

this stuff makes me ashamed to be catholicThis is not a Catholic school.

[Fourthman]

I like this story. The school says "Sorry, we don't want your daughter here because we're morons." The family says, "Oh, thanks for letting us know, we'll be on our way."

[Ray G.]

This is one of the most obscene cases I've heard about in years. This school needs to have protesters outside it 24-7, just to let everyone know what ignorant fucktards they are.

[SteveZegers]

Stob wrote that school policy requires that at least one parent may not engage in practices "immoral or inconsistent with a positive Christian life style, such as cohabitating without marriage or in a homosexual relationship," The Los Angeles Times reported in Friday's edition.

This is the strangest thing about it for me. One of the parents can be a godless lesbian as long as the other is "OK". Weird.

[Oeming]

These fuckers should read the bible. Christ said to love your enemies, clearly this shouldnt be an issue for them. Fuckers.

I wish homophopes would stop ruinning the bible and just admit they hate :fags". Just be the haters you are fuckers.

[Fourthman]

Actually, now that the school has become a refuge for children of homophobic parents (as in, if you were afraid your kid were gay - this is a school that might "cure" them, or at least isolate them) what are the odds that in a few months, most of the student body is comprised of kids who, after displaying homosexual tendencies at home, are sent to this school.

[jordan michael]

i completely disagree with the school choice to expel the girl, but from a legal stand point they are allowed to. it is a private school, they can kick out whoever they want. it would be a different case if it was a public school.

[En Sabah Poo]

i completely disagree with the school choice to expel the girl, but from a legal stand point they are allowed to. it is a private school, they can kick out whoever they want. it would be a different case if it was a public school.
Exactly right. It sucks, but its a private school, they can do what they want. Just like someone could open a private restaurant and exclude non-whites.

[RebootedCorpse]

Exactly right. It sucks, but its a private school, they can do what they want. Just like someone could open a private restaurant and exclude non-whites.
No, they couldn't.

[DrMachine]

Exactly right. It sucks, but its a private school, they can do what they want. Just like someone could open a private restaurant and exclude non-whites.

I wonder if they recieve any government funding

[Mr. E!]

I wonder if they recieve any government funding
I doubt it. If they are a private school, they wouldn't get any governmnet funding. Now, if vouchers come along, and they accept the money, would they be able to discrimanate against who they let in and who they don't?

[TheTravis!]

School administrators learned of the parents' relationship this week after Shay was reprimanded for talking to the crowd during a football game, Tina Clark said.

What the fuck does that mean, anyway?

[alan]

Disgusting.

Every time I think people have moved forward a little bit, something like this happens.

--Alan

[McAfee]

Good to see that Canada can be just as extremist-homophobic as America.

[WAKKAJAWAKKA]

What the fuck does that mean, anyway?

It Means You Suck. Haha! I Think It Means She Spoke About Her Parents At A Social Function.

Wayno.

[Shwicaz]

Good to see that Canada can be just as extremist-homophobic as America.


but isn't gay marriage legal in canada?

I agree a private school can set up its own rules, so as outraged as we/I are/am, it doesn't matter.

But, expelling a student because their parents are in a relationship that has been recognized as having a 'legal' standing just sounds off to me.

Still, I can't believe the parents bent over and took it.

[Ray G.]

but isn't gay marriage legal in canada?

I agree a private school can set up its own rules, so as outraged as we/I are/am, it doesn't matter.

But, expelling a student because their parents are in a relationship that has been recognized as having a 'legal' standing just sounds off to me.

Still, I can't believe the parents bent over and took it.


It says Ontario, California. It's in the US.

Didn't even know there was an Ontario, California.

[TheTravis!]

It Means You Suck. Haha!

Awww, you think that EVERYTHING means that.


I Think It Means She Spoke About Her Parents At A Social Function.

Wayno.

Lke, she got up at halftime and said, "Hey, how about that touchdown? And by the way, I have two mommies and they both love the Indigo Girls?"

[Shwicaz]

It says Ontario, California. It's in the US.

Didn't even know there was an Ontario, California.

well....stilll......

:Oops:

:scared:

gotta go.....

[McAfee]

but isn't gay marriage legal in canada?

Doesn't mean they can't get as riled up about gay folks in the public arena--just like here. Only we're like the lion to their pussy cat.

[Taxman]

Good to see that Canada can be just as extremist-homophobic as America.Dude, this Ontario, a city in San Bernardino County California, not the Province of Canada.

[McAfee]

It says Ontario, California. It's in the US.

Didn't even know there was an Ontario, California.

OOPS!!!!:Oops:

I flew into Ontario airport once, just outside of LA. The same one?

[WAKKAJAWAKKA]

Awww, you think that EVERYTHING means that.



Lke, she got up at halftime and said, "Hey, how about that touchdown? And by the way, I have two mommies and they both love the Indigo Girls?"

My Guess Is Just Casual Conversation Amongst The Crowd, But The Article Words It All Wierd.

Wayno.

[Taxman]

Didn't even know there was an Ontario, California.You were probably better off that way.

They used to have big Indy Car race track there, The Ontario Motor Spedway. The California 500 was held over Labor Day weekend from 1970 - 1980. This is Ontario's only claim to fame other than having one of seven or eight commercial airports in Southern California.

[Fourthman]

Still, I can't believe the parents bent over and took it.
Would you fight to keep your kids in a school like that?

[xyzzy]

This is one of the big reasons I don't support vouchers.

[tjtolosa]

This couldn't happen in Canada now that they have their ridiculous "hate speech" laws. The school would have been shut down.

[Amos Moses]

My little cousin was told he couldn't play with the neigbors kids because he had two mommies. I was tempted to break down thier door and pound the shit out of them. Religious people don't know beans about thier own religion.

[Angel of Distraction]

I can feel the Christian love oozing from that school. Apparently actual Christians didn't take from the New Testament what I did.

[J. Wilson]

When I take over the world the first thing I'm doing it outlawing religion.

[Movie Guy]

lesbian parents are great

[gwyllgi]

at least they found out the school was full of fuckheads before they paid for another year of classes.

now they can go somewhere where intelligent people teach.

[XSaraXPoeX]

You can't really blame the school. The girl's GAY parents probably hug her in the morning before she leaves for school and the girl gets GAY all over her clothes and that might not mean much now but over time, as the weeks and months go by and she keeps carrying GAY to school on her clothes, and you have GAY floating throughout the school, thru the vents, getting all over the teachers and janitors and students, one day there will be so much GAY in the school that the whole place might burst out in one HUGE flippin' GAY orgy.

Worst case scenerio. :?

[Jamie Coville]

I'm kinda surprised the gay parents would send their kid to a religious school to begin with, but whatever.

[Wastrel]

gays feed on the pure souls of innocent christian children to fuel their unholy lifestyle.

[Blandy vs Terrorism]

This is one of the most obscene cases I've heard about in years. This school needs to have protesters outside it 24-7, just to let everyone know what ignorant fucktards they are.
I concur.

[Angel of Distraction]

gays feed on the pure souls of innocent christian children to fuel their unholy lifestyle.

You've got gays confused with me.

[jordan michael]

You can't really blame the school. The girl's GAY parents probably hug her in the morning before she leaves for school and the girl gets GAY all over her clothes and that might not mean much now but over time, as the weeks and months go by and she keeps carrying GAY to school on her clothes, and you have GAY floating throughout the school, thru the vents, getting all over the teachers and janitors and students, one day there will be so much GAY in the school that the whole place might burst out in one HUGE flippin' GAY orgy.

Worst case scenerio. :?

i once caught the gay, and i still can't look at sodomy the same way...

[changingshades]

My numbered school years (1st-12th grades) were spent at a school like that.

It's a wonder I'm as close to normal as I am.

[changingshades]

You can't really blame the school. The girl's GAY parents probably hug her in the morning before she leaves for school and the girl gets GAY all over her clothes and that might not mean much now but over time, as the weeks and months go by and she keeps carrying GAY to school on her clothes, and you have GAY floating throughout the school, thru the vents, getting all over the teachers and janitors and students, one day there will be so much GAY in the school that the whole place might burst out in one HUGE flippin' GAY orgy.

Worst case scenerio. :? God that's hot

um...anyway, Hey Sara, since when is Sara Gilbert gay? I always had a crush on her.

[J. Wilson]

You can't really blame the school. The girl's GAY parents probably hug her in the morning before she leaves for school and the girl gets GAY all over her clothes and that might not mean much now but over time, as the weeks and months go by and she keeps carrying GAY to school on her clothes, and you have GAY floating throughout the school, thru the vents, getting all over the teachers and janitors and students, one day there will be so much GAY in the school that the whole place might burst out in one HUGE flippin' GAY orgy.

Worst case scenerio. :?

Lots of lesbian sex? Wait, what school is this again, Sara just talked me into wanting to be back in high school.... :grope:

[J. Wilson]

God that's hot

um...anyway, Hey Sara, since when is Sara Gilbert gay? I always had a crush on her.

Check out her IMDB page, it mentions her partner and that they've both had a kid with the other. (Did I phrase that right?)

[NickT]

This couldn't happen in Canada now that they have their ridiculous "hate speech" laws. The school would have been shut down.
What's ridiculious in taking a stand against racism, homophobia and the like?





at least they found out the school was full of fuckheads before they paid for another year of classes.

now they can go somewhere where intelligent people teach.
Very true.

[jordan michael]

What's ridiculious in taking a stand against racism, homophobia and the like?

it is ridiculious because it is forcing people to think a certain way. yes, it is a positive way, but forcing people to thinking tolerantly is just as bad as forcing being to think homophobically. it is still forcing people to think in a way unlike their own, and that is one of the worst things humans can do to each other.

[Mikie]

hmmm...that sucks for the kid. Or maybe not. Least he won't have to wear a school uniform any more.

[Angel of Distraction]

it is ridiculious because it is forcing people to think a certain way. yes, it is a positive way, but forcing people to thinking tolerantly is just as bad as forcing being to think homophobically. it is still forcing people to think in a way unlike their own, and that is one of the worst things humans can do to each other.

I disagree. Intolerance should be a crime.

[xyzzy]

I disagree. Intolerance should be a crime.

Bullshit. People should be free to think whatever they want. Act on those thoughts, maybe not. Legislating what is okay and not okay to think is horribly, horribly wrong.

[Blake Sims]

Bullshit. People should be free to think whatever they want. Act on those thoughts, maybe not. Legislating what is okay and not okay to think is horribly, horribly wrong.
yeah
not matter how horrible these things are you cant really make them illegal

[NickT]

it is ridiculious because it is forcing people to think a certain way. yes, it is a positive way, but forcing people to thinking tolerantly is just as bad as forcing being to think homophobically. it is still forcing people to think in a way unlike their own, and that is one of the worst things humans can do to each other.
It's not forcing people to think in a certain way, it forces them to ACT in a certain way.


How is the US ever going to fight racism when there are no crimes against people preaching (Not neccesarily in a religion) racism? In the UK we have a law reguarding inciting racial hatred. What do you have? Nothing. People can hide behind freedom of speech while at the same time corrupting peoples minds. You think this is right?

[xyzzy]

It's not forcing people to think in a certain way, it forces them to ACT in a certain way.


How is the US ever going to fight racism when there are no crimes against people preaching (Not neccesarily in a religion) racism? In the UK we have a law reguarding inciting racial hatred. What do you have? Nothing. People can hide behind freedom of speech while at the same time corrupting peoples minds. You think this is right?

Yes. Yes, I do. You counter bad ideas with good ideas. Not by making illegal to think or speak something you don't agree with.

[Pia Guerra]

No one is telling you what to think, you can think whatever bullshit you like. The minute you start preaching hate to incite more hate then it becomes an issue for the cops. The hate laws up here aren't even used all that often unless there's a lot of proof of an actual hate crime. I think if anything the government is making sure it doesn't create an atmosphere of acceptance that would make them liable for crimes comitted by hateful cunts. Much like sexual harassment in the workplace, if it can be shown that management allowed an environment of acceptance for unacceptable behaviour then they're just as liable as the perpetrator.

[NickT]

Yes. Yes, I do. You counter bad ideas with good ideas. Not by making illegal to think or speak something you don't agree with.
Are you even reading what I am saying?

It's not forcing people to think in a certain way.



So which part of what I said IN ANY WAY makes thoughts illegal?

[xyzzy]

No one is telling you what to think, you can think whatever bullshit you like. The minute you start preaching hate to incite more hate then it becomes an issue for the cops. The hate laws up here aren't even used all that often unless there's a lot of proof of an actual hate crime. I think if anything the government is making sure it doesn't create an atmosphere of acceptance that would make them liable for crimes comitted by hateful cunts. Much like sexual harassment in the workplace, if it can be shown that management allowed an environment of acceptance for unacceptable behaviour then they're just as liable as the perpetrator.

Unless the speech is directly responsible for causing harm, I don't see how you can justify it. And I don't care how they're applied. A bad law is a bad law. If you can make "hate speech" illegal, why not political dissent or promoting wiccanism or anything else that the establishment doesn't like?

[xyzzy]

Are you even reading what I am saying?

It's not forcing people to think in a certain way.



So which part of what I said IN ANY WAY makes thoughts illegal?

I did say OR SPEAK. Maybe you missed that part. Others have rasied the idea of making intolerance, in general, illegal. It's a bullshit argument anyway, to say you can think whatever you want as long as you never talk about it. That's like saying that it's okay to be gay as long as you stay in the closet and never ever act on it.

[Angel of Distraction]

Bullshit. People should be free to think whatever they want. Act on those thoughts, maybe not. Legislating what is okay and not okay to think is horribly, horribly wrong.

I guess I don't agree in this instance. It's not illegal to discriminate against gays. Were a long way from it being illegal to even act on it.

[xyzzy]

I guess I don't agree in this instance. It's not illegal to discriminate against gays. Were a long way from it being illegal to even act on it.

So, you honestly think that we should legislate what is okay for people to believe? That if you stray, the thought police will sweep in and take you to some sort of orwellian re-education camp? How can you possibly think that's a good idea?

[Angel of Distraction]

So, you honestly think that we should legislate what is okay for people to believe? That if you stray, the thought police will sweep in and take you to some sort of orwellian re-education camp? How can you possibly think that's a good idea?

I'm getting out of this before you continue to add to what I said.

[xyzzy]

I'm getting out of this before you continue to add to what I said.

Maybe you could just justify it, instead. Or admit that it's a horrible idea. I'd be fine, either way.

[NickT]

I did say OR SPEAK. Maybe you missed that part.
I saw it, but I also saw you talking directly to me and saying think :)


Others have rasied the idea of making intolerance, in general, illegal.
Which I disagree with. Racist thoughts don't do anything to anyone but yourself. Racist actions, different thing.



It's a bullshit argument anyway, to say you can think whatever you want as long as you never talk about it. That's like saying that it's okay to be gay as long as you stay in the closet and never ever act on it.
No one is going to make a law that makes it illegal to be racist. You wont be taken away in the night because you said a bad thing. We're talking about stopping people preaching it.

[xyzzy]

No one is going to make a law that makes it illegal to be racist. You wont be taken away in the night because you said a bad thing. We're talking about stopping people preaching it.

I'm not familiar with these kinds of laws. What's the definition of preaching? How is it different from talking? Can I write an essay about it? Have a web site? I really don't understand how you can justify it when there's no direct harm.

[XSaraXPoeX]

God that's hot

um...anyway, Hey Sara, since when is Sara Gilbert gay? I always had a crush on her.DUDE, have you NOT visited lesbianlife.com inna while? :D


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[Pia Guerra]

Unless the speech is directly responsible for causing harm, I don't see how you can justify it.

And that's the only time the law is applied. If anything there are people who would like to see the law applied more. A case here in Vancouver involved a group of assholes from Surrey cruising Stanley Park looking for gay men in the woods. They found one guy, chased him down and beat him to death with baseball bats. The community rallied for the hate law to be applied but because these idiots claimed they were only looking for "Peeping Toms" the crown decided not to apply the hate law due to lack of evidence of a hate crime.

Politicians and the courts are very reluctant to use the law because they know if it were abused people would be up in arms about it.

[xyzzy]

And that's the only time the law is applied. If anything there are people who would like to see the law applied more. A case here in Vancouver involved a group of assholes from Surrey cruising Stanley Park looking for gay men in the woods. They found one guy, chased him down and beat him to death with baseball bats. The community rallied for the hate law to be applied but because these idiots claimed they were only looking for "Peeping Toms" the crown decided not to apply the hate law due to lack of evidence of a hate crime.

Politicians and the courts are very reluctant to use the law because they know if it were abused people would be up in arms about it.

But what does the law actually say? If it's only used in cases of direct harm, then why not write it so that's the only time it's illegal? Selective enforcement is a bad thing, in my opinion. It leads to abuse and discrimination.

[changingshades]

DUDE, have you NOT visited lesbianlife.com inna while? :D


http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianactors/p/SaraGilbert.htm (http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianactors/p/SaraGilbert.htm)
no I haven't. is there boobies? :D

ona completely unrelated note: Did you get that thing I sent you?

[XSaraXPoeX]

no I haven't. is there boobies? :D

ona completely unrelated note: Did you get that thing I sent you?Nope. You gotta go to clublez.com and check out their site for actual boobies.

Got it. I REALLY hate that woman. (JJ) Thankx for it. :D

[jordan michael]

I disagree. Intolerance should be a crime.

okay. why don't we just start having posters of big brother all around then? why don't firemen burn books? because the greatest freedom is freedom to think, and to try to change that is a horrible violation, and highly fascist. you can't just make everything you dislike illegal.

[changingshades]

Nope. You gotta go to clublez.com and check out their site for actual boobies.

Got it. I REALLY hate that woman. (JJ) Thankx for it. :D
y'know sara

you totally rule.

just thought you should know that

[jordan michael]

It's not forcing people to think in a certain way, it forces them to ACT in a certain way.


How is the US ever going to fight racism when there are no crimes against people preaching (Not neccesarily in a religion) racism? In the UK we have a law reguarding inciting racial hatred. What do you have? Nothing. People can hide behind freedom of speech while at the same time corrupting peoples minds. You think this is right?


we shouldn't have anything. we have hate crime laws, and those should be done away with. the government has no right to say "this type of feeling is wrong". we have the freedom to hate whoever the fuck we want, and we have the freedom to let people know you hate them, and as much as i disagree with all those people vocalizing their hate i would never dream of taking that freedom away from them. the government shouldn't fight racism. what type of fucked up society needs to have the government say that racism is wrong, and doesn't let the people take their own measures to become decent human beings and end it themselves.

[Angel of Distraction]

All right. of course racist thoughts don't affect anyone. But yelling at a gay couple with a kid on the street that they are going to Hell? That may not be physically harmful, but it still hurts, and should get you arrested or at least removed as a public nuisance. If they're going to preach their intolerance, we don't need them.

[jordan michael]

All right. of course racist thoughts don't affect anyone. But yelling at a gay couple with a kid on the street that they are going to Hell? That may not be physically harmful, but it still hurts, and should get you arrested or at least removed as a public nuisance. If they're going to preach their intolerance, we don't need them.


yes. everyone who is vocal about their views that our different their ours should be locked up. fuck, why don't we put them in camps while we are at it.

yelling at a gay couple in public should be harassment, and that's it, because that is only what it is.

[NickT]

the government shouldn't fight racism. what type of fucked up society needs to have the government say that racism is wrong, and doesn't let the people take their own measures to become decent human beings and end it themselves.
If you grow up believing racism is right, how will you become a decent human being?

[jordan michael]

If you grow up believing racism is right, how will you become a decent human being?

that is where the parents and people need to step in and put an end to it, not the government.

[NickT]

that is where the parents and people need to step in and put an end to it, not the government.
And if the parents are racist? They could become racist because people in the community are preaching hate or agreeing and the parents are doing nothing. You're saying that is fine, yes?

[NATE!]

this thread makes my vagina hurt

[The Roman Candle]

Serves her right for having filthy homos for parents! How dare she?! :x

[UltimateQuintessa]

Serves her right for having filthy homos for parents! How dare she?! :x


Jerk, you stole my line. :cry:

[The Roman Candle]

Jerk, you stole my line. :cry:

Don't worry, you still have your big musical number in act III.

[kelemanga]

Evil :(

[xyzzy]

And if the parents are racist? They could become racist because people in the community are preaching hate or agreeing and the parents are doing nothing. You're saying that is fine, yes?

Yes. You keep saying that you're not trying to make different kinds of thinking illegal, but read that your post. It really is what you're doing.

[Hypester23]

Way to go fellow Christians. That's the way to show the depths and love of Christ...shut people who come to you out :roll:

This is one of those times where the difference between religion and faith is glaring.

[Shwicaz]

The sad thing about the whole affair is that the girl is being penalized because of something that is beyond her control.

I mean, yes, the admission guidelines state their policy, but why deny a child admission to a school because of their parents behavior.


The parents aren't the ones attending classes, the child is. And for her to be expelled from school because her parents (who have been together 22 years, so the article says) have a loving long-term relationship is just ridiculous.

[Hypester23]

The sad thing about the whole affair is that the girl is being penalized because of something that is beyond her control.

I mean, yes, the admission guidelines state their policy, but why deny a child admission to a school because of their parents behavior.


The parents aren't the ones attending classes, the child is. And for her to be expelled from school because her parents (who have been together 22 years, so the article says) have a loving long-term relationship is just ridiculous.

And you know what, even if she was gay, it's pretty dumb for a Christian school to lock someone out. I suppose if it was someone's intent to sabatoge or undermine the place a case could be made, but it really makes me sick what this school is done


One of my favorite drawings of Jesus is the one of Him knocking on a door that has no outside handle. He'll ask to be in your life, but you have to let Him in. Instead we get Christians who use Christ as a twisted lightning rod for their hateful ways. :(