you know mike, i'm kind of pissed off at you

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

you could be doing the sequential equivalent of reinventing the wheel right now, but instead your making corporate properties like Daredevil "cool"


okay
rant over
*runs away*

[JABSEN]

That was a weak rant....

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

That was a weak rant....
i'm taking it easy on him
it's not 2002 anymore

[Olivier E.]

doesn't he have a kid,?

[Michael Lark]

doesn't he have a kid,?

Yup, I do. A 5-year-old boy named Calvin, who's even cuter than I am (if you can beleive that :)). But what does my kid have to do with Goddard's half-assed little girlie rant?

[Olivier E.]

Yup, I do. A 5-year-old boy named Calvin, who's even cuter than I am (if you can beleive that :)). But what does my kid have to do with Goddard's half-assed little girlie rant?

Tell your wife that you're going to earn less because you want to mske Jacob happy and wait what she says

[DeleriumTremens]

Does he have a soul patch too.

[Angel]

Does he have a soul patch too.
i bet it's a little one made up of just peach fuzz :D

[dEnny!]

I think Michael will have a long enough career where if he wants he'll be able to do both. I for one am excited by Brubaker and Lark continuing to work together. These two are one of the dynamic duos in comics.

[Olivier E.]

I think Michael will have a long enough career where if he wants he'll be able to do both. I for one am excited by Brubaker and Lark continuing to work together. These two are one of the dynamic duos in comics.

that sounds so gay
http://tinypic.com/dxd9n7.jpg

[Ed Brubaker]

Seems like the sequental art wheel is about as "reinvented" as it's going to be, Goddard.

I mean, Dan Clowes and Chris Ware's comics seem much the same as they were 10 or 15 years ago. The Jaime Hernandez of today draws comics exactly like he did in 1985. Craig Thompson, while a great cartoonist, didn't do anything that Feiffer or Eisner hadn't done decades earlier. And most of the best artists in US comics will all talk about how they're trying to be more like Toth, who's best work was done in the 50s and 60s. So, I don't know what this "reinvention" you talk about would be, and how Michael would do it. Unless he's going to invent a way to put sound on the printed page, it's mostly about telling stories. And as for graphic innovation, Michael can do just as much of that on DD as he could anywhere else, really.

[Kody]

Eh, I'm really not a fan of the spandex, never have been. But Brubaker and Lark are a fantastic team and worth reading no matter what the book. I'll be buying every issue.

Still guys, after a nice run on DD, lets go back and to some pure crime comics.

:D

[DeleriumTremens]

Unless he's going to invent a way to put sound on the printed page
I think he was beat to the punch on that. I seem to remember reading Star Wars comics that had a tape soundtrack, so even thats already been done. :-)

[Ed Crane]

Funny how someone who chastises others for not "reinventing the wheel" is content to adhere to every indie snob/starving artist cliche known to man.

YOUR LIFE IS A FUCKING WHEEL, GODDARD!!! REINVENT!!!

[PeterSparker]

Seems like the sequental art wheel is about as "reinvented" as it's going to be, Goddard.

I mean, Dan Clowes and Chris Ware's comics seem much the same as they were 10 or 15 years ago. The Jaime Hernandez of today draws comics exactly like he did in 1985. Craig Thompson, while a great cartoonist, didn't do anything that Feiffer or Eisner hadn't done decades earlier. And most of the best artists in US comics will all talk about how they're trying to be more like Toth, who's best work was done in the 50s and 60s. So, I don't know what this "reinvention" you talk about would be, and how Michael would do it. Unless he's going to invent a way to put sound on the printed page, it's mostly about telling stories. And as for graphic innovation, Michael can do just as much of that on DD as he could anywhere else, really.


*clap, clap, clap*


and more of an answer than the pretentious wannabe deserves

[dimeshop]

And as for graphic innovation, Michael can do just as much of that on DD as he could anywhere else, really.

I was going to say, if there's one company owned book that's taken real chances on storytelling in the past few years, it's Daredevil. I've read the bulk of Bendis' creator-owned work and some of Mack's and I think that they really brought the best of themselves to DD when they were on it. Personally, I'm looking forward to see what Brubaker and Lark can do.

Goddard, you seemed to have real gripes about New Avengers and Astonishing X-men after reading them. If the holdup on you enjoying DD is that it's corporate, you're doing your self a diservice. I just looked at my copy of Watchmen - it says "Copyright DC Comics....a Division of Time Warner." Corporations are far from wonderful things, but they are capable of producing great comics when they've got the right people on it. I think you'd agree that Brubaker and Lark are some of those people.

[Michael Lark]

Um, are you people actually taking Goddard SERIOUSLY?


(Oh, and in my lab at home I've been developing a method of printing comics in which the ink actually moves, makes sounds, and produces textures and smells according to the needs of the story, but if Brubaker thinks I'm going to be using it on one of HIS lousy comics, he's got another thing coming.;-))

[Kody]

Um, are you people actually taking Goddard SERIOUSLY?


(Oh, and in my lab at home I've been developing a method of printing comics in which the ink actually moves, makes sounds, and produces textures and smells according to the needs of the story, but if Brubaker thinks I'm going to be using it on one of HIS lousy comics, he's got another thing coming.;-))


Scratch and sniff comics featuring a sweaty Hulk fighting a sewer monster? That would rule.

[Michael Lark]

Scratch and sniff comics featuring a sweaty Hulk fighting a sewer monster? That would rule.

SHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! It's a secret!!!!

(Deodorant pun intended.)

[DeleriumTremens]

(Deodorant pun intended.)
:Groan:

[GelfXIII]

SHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! It's a secret!!!!

(Deodorant pun intended.)

Well that was the pits.
;)

[Michael Lark]

Well that was the pits.
;)


:surrend:

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

Um, are you people actually taking Goddard SERIOUSLY?


(Oh, and in my lab at home I've been developing a method of printing comics in which the ink actually moves, makes sounds, and produces textures and smells according to the needs of the story, but if Brubaker thinks I'm going to be using it on one of HIS lousy comics, he's got another thing coming.;-))
yeah, i was mostly kidding, Mike's a corporate comic illustrator and has been doing well with it for many years and i wouldn't expect him to be anything else, but i've been thinking a lot about the new directions comics have been going lately, with people like Dame Darcy, Ronald J Regé, David Chelsea, Martin Tom Dieck, and Actus Tragicus, and i've been really submerging myself in non-narrative comics lately

[Michael Lark]

"Corporate comics illustrator"? Wow. And here I've just been thinking of myself as a storyteller.

[Donal DeLay]

Scratch & Sniff comics have been done before. So have moving comics.

NEXT!

[Olivier E.]

"Corporate comics illustrator"? Wow. And here I've just been thinking of myself as a storyteller.

someone should replace your moderator title name, with Corporate comics illustrator :twisted:

[Michael Lark]

someone should replace your moderator title name, with Corporate comics illustrator :twisted:

I'd prefer "Sell-Out Hack". Or maybe just "Whore".

[Jacob Lyon Goddard]

"Corporate comics illustrator"? Wow. And here I've just been thinking of myself as a storyteller.
....
thay came out wrong :-?

[KingMob]

Someone should really take your shovel away sometimes Goddard. :lol: