Ray's 53rd DCU/GrayHaven Megathread - Beware the Court of OOMPHwls!!!

[Matthew Brown]

I want Sodam Yat back.

But he's overpowered and SUCH a bore!

[Ray G.]

I want Sodam Yat back.

I'm sure he's still around and will be dealt with when Tomasi or Bedard wants to. The GL universe is intact.

[Drkemerld73]

I loooooooove Starling. It scares me a bit how much I love the character. She's like the Tara Chace of the DCU.

Good call, but I think Starling enjoys life and danger more than Tara ever did. But yeah, that does seem to fit. :thumb:


Really? Now I feel bad for missing out on this. Cuz I loved the Infestation mini even.

The trade will be out in a month or so I believe. You should check it out before the storyline during the summer where they go cross country and hit different cities with their investigations. The art is great and very expressive (the ghosts are also pretty cool). Just a lot of fun all around, including the files they have on the different supernatural entities they've encountered (I think this is only in the singles).

[Matthew Brown]

hey guys what's going-






*walks out of thread quickly*

Take your perverted request with you!

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[Slewo.O]

But he's overpowered and SUCH a bore!
Yeah? Well so is your face! *hits Matt with a decorative Sodam Yat pillow*



I'm sure he's still around and will be dealt with when Tomasi or Bedard wants to. The GL universe is intact.

Yeah I know. But you and I were both at that GL panel. Tomasi said it probably won't be anytime soon. That was too long-building a plot to just dig right back up.

[Matthew Brown]

I'm sure he's still around and will be dealt with when Tomasi or Bedard wants to. The GL universe is intact.

I'm invisible to Ray today! Time to spread my Liberal agenda.

[Slewo.O]

I'm invisible to Ray today! Time to spread my Liberal agenda.

Ray doesn't have anything against liberals. Just ones that suggest anything negative about that little nation that could in the ME. :razz:

[Marc Lombardi]

I don't know if you read my Blue Beetle review this week, but that's basically the epitome of a title that shouldn't be as dark as it is.

On the other hand, GLC is surprisingly dark, and it's working really well.

I don't usually read your reviews until I read all of my DCU comics first. I did go back and check out your BB review. Wow...1 star? I never see you give anything less than a 3.5 most times. :lol:

Not knowing anything about the book, I'm sure you're probably right. Rebooting the DCU and not putting Ted Kord in the Blue Beetle suit was the kiss of death. Once the book dies off they can figure a way for Ted to become BB again and then put him in the JLI. Hopefully I'm still reading JLI at that point.

Pretty sure that in the coming months the only DCU books that I'll be reading are Birds of Prey, Wonder Woman, Action Comics, Batman, Demon Knights and Justice League. The rest seem to be losing my interest...and even two of the ones I'm keeping (Action & JL) are hard for me to love. The other four I'm in for the long haul.

[Slewo.O]

Even a Nick Spencer book doesn't go that low, Ray really did not like it. :?

[Ray G.]

I don't usually read your reviews until I read all of my DCU comics first. I did go back and check out your BB review. Wow...1 star? I never see you give anything less than a 3.5 most times. :lol:

Not knowing anything about the book, I'm sure you're probably right. Rebooting the DCU and not putting Ted Kord in the Blue Beetle suit was the kiss of death. Once the book dies off they can figure a way for Ted to become BB again and then put him in the JLI. Hopefully I'm still reading JLI at that point.

Pretty sure that in the coming months the only DCU books that I'll be reading are Birds of Prey, Wonder Woman, Action Comics, Batman, Demon Knights and Justice League. The rest seem to be losing my interest...and even two of the ones I'm keeping (Action & JL) are hard for me to love. The other four I'm in for the long haul.

I've given a few comics * or *1/2 before, but not often.

Keeping Jaime was actually a pretty good call. He's gotten a lot of mainstream attention in Brave and the Bold.

...where he's portrayed in a much more light-hearted way, much like he was in the original comic. So this grim and gritty reboot is more than a little bit of an odd call.

[Slewo.O]

I've given a few comics * or *1/2 before, but not often.

Keeping Jaime was actually a pretty good call. He's gotten a lot of mainstream attention in Brave and the Bold.

...where he's portrayed in a much more light-hearted way, much like he was in the original comic. So this grim and gritty reboot is more than a little bit of an odd call.

Yeah, while I'm glad they're trying to keep Jamie in people's minds. It doesn't work when he's a completely different dude.

[Slewo.O]

Also Marc, where does Wonder Woman fall in your lighten up stuff?

[Marc Lombardi]

Also Marc, where does Wonder Woman fall in your lighten up stuff?


Keep Wonder Woman as is. She's a warrior princess. Technically at this point she's a Titan (child of a God). Let her be free to kick ass. Dark and bloody is fine with me. If DCU wants a lighthearted female superhero there's always Supergirl of Power Girl. Let Wonder Woman be someone that should be feared as much as she's desired.

[Slewo.O]

But think of the children!

[The Doctor]

I've given a few comics * or *1/2 before, but not often.

Keeping Jaime was actually a pretty good call. He's gotten a lot of mainstream attention in Brave and the Bold.

...where he's portrayed in a much more light-hearted way, much like he was in the original comic. So this grim and gritty reboot is more than a little bit of an odd call.

This is what erasing Ted Kord from existence gets you

[Marc Lombardi]

But think of the children!

My license plate is "NO KIDS" so...

[Slewo.O]

This is what erasing Ted Kord from existence gets you
Uh, yeah about that. :shifty:



My license plate is "NO KIDS" so...

That makes you... A communist!

[Marc Lombardi]

Uh, yeah about that. :shifty:


That makes you... A communist!
Actually, I'm pretty sure that Communists are required to have kids.

[Marcdachamp]

It has. It's something I look forward to every month, and I love all of the easter eggs they throw in, even though I'm sure I miss out on 99% of them.

I was a bit worried since I didn't enjoy the Infestation mini, but this is firing on all cylinders and the chemistry feels true to the characters.

The fact that they've referenced Blues Brothers and worked in the Ghostbusters video game is pretty cool to me.

[Slewo.O]

Actually, I'm pretty sure that Communists are required to have kids.

I'm an American, I don't need to know facts. My blind jingoism will re-write facts as they suit me. ;)

[Howlett]

I want Sodam Yat back.

I'm kinda hoping Sodding Twat stays gone. I can't think of a character in Green Lantern that's bored me half as much as him.

[Slewo.O]

I'm kinda hoping Sodding Twat stays gone. I can't think of a character in Green Lantern that's bored me half as much as him.

I thought you hated Nekron more.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

It's amusing to me, but I can't watch more than one episode at a time or the over-the-top quirkiness starts to grate on me.

Sooooooooooo... it's an animated Curb Your Enthusiasm?

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

I loooooooove Starling. It scares me a bit how much I love the character. She's like the Tara Chace of the DCU.

This post reminded me how much I miss Queen & Country... and now I'm sad... FUCK YOU, MARC LOMBARDI. Right in your ear.

[Slewo.O]

This post reminded me how much I miss Queen & Country... and now I'm sad... FUCK YOU, MARC LOMBARDI. Right in your ear.

That seems unsanitary.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

I don't usually read your reviews until I read all of my DCU comics first. I did go back and check out your BB review. Wow...1 star? I never see you give anything less than a 3.5 most times. :lol:

Not knowing anything about the book, I'm sure you're probably right. Rebooting the DCU and not putting Ted Kord in the Blue Beetle suit was the kiss of death. Once the book dies off they can figure a way for Ted to become BB again and then put him in the JLI. Hopefully I'm still reading JLI at that point.

Pretty sure that in the coming months the only DCU books that I'll be reading are Birds of Prey, Wonder Woman, Action Comics, Batman, Demon Knights and Justice League. The rest seem to be losing my interest...and even two of the ones I'm keeping (Action & JL) are hard for me to love. The other four I'm in for the long haul.

I'm down to just Birds Of Prey (as far as ongoings) but I'll be done with that as soon as Saiz or Pina are off it. So hopefully there will be something for me in the next wave after the next cancellations.

[Howlett]

I thought you hated Nekron more.

I don't remember ever having said that. I've stood by Sodding Twat being my most loathed Lantern character since the moment he appeared during Johns GL/ Gibbons GLC era of the books.

[Marc Lombardi]

This post reminded me how much I miss Queen & Country... and now I'm sad... FUCK YOU, MARC LOMBARDI. Right in your ear.


That seems unsanitary.
My ears a clean!

[Drkemerld73]

The fact that they've referenced Blues Brothers and worked in the Ghostbusters video game is pretty cool to me.

Loved the Blues Brothers cameo!

The only video game I played was the ooooold one. So I'm not up to date on all of the references to the other one.

I also like that they threw in the A-Team van, KITT, and a bunch of other things.

In last month's issue, I loved that they threw in that Cardinal (?) guy, Mike, from the first movie walking on the street. :thumb:

[Marc Lombardi]

I'm down to just Birds Of Prey (as far as ongoings) but I'll be done with that as soon as Saiz or Pina are off it. So hopefully there will be something for me in the next wave after the next cancellations.

I was talking to the guy at my LCS yesterday about this. He said that DCU sales are falling fast and that a majority of the customers are blaming the creative team changes on virtually all of the books they are dropping. He also said that Marvel sales are picking back up and that in a month or two he expects that the numbers will basically be exactly what they were before the reboot.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

Punisher's a good book, a good book that's not really grabbing me, still a good book though... BUT- I want Rucka on a book with a female lead again.

[Drkemerld73]

Punisher's a good book, a good book that's not really grabbing me, still a good book though... BUT- I want Rucka on a book with a female lead again.

In other words: Bring Queen & Country back!

I fully support this by the way.

:)

[Marc Lombardi]

Punisher's a good book, a good book that's not really grabbing me, still a good book though... BUT- I want Rucka on a book with a female lead again.

If Swierczy ever leaves Birds of Prey (and godDAMN will I be pissed if that happens), Rucka is probably the ONLY guy (aside from maybe Nathan Edmondson) who could take over the book and have me keep reading it.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

I was talking to the guy at my LCS yesterday about this. He said that DCU sales are falling fast and that a majority of the customers are blaming the creative team changes on virtually all of the books they are dropping. He also said that Marvel sales are picking back up and that in a month or two he expects that the numbers will basically be exactly what they were before the reboot.

Yup. Although most of my customers have blamed it on "nothing happening in DC" I've had a lot of people tell me that it doesn't feel like DC stories right now, or the universe as a whole, are going anywhere. Whereas it's clear that Marvel is building to something, you read most of those books and you can tell that something's coming, there's a reason to keep going, and to read their other books, but a lot of DC books just seem to be treading water.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

In other words: Bring Queen & Country back!

I fully support this by the way.

:)

That's definitely my preference. But if he's gonna write for Marvel, which I'm fine with, there are some good female characters there he'd be great on.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

If Swierczy ever leaves Birds of Prey (and godDAMN will I be pissed if that happens), Rucka is probably the ONLY guy (aside from maybe Nathan Edmondson) who could take over the book and have me keep reading it.

I'd be fine with both of those. Andreyko would also be a great choice.

[Marc Lombardi]

I'd be fine with both of those. Andreyko would also be a great choice.


Sure...but only because he'd probably make Starling bi-sexual. :crazy:

[Slewo.O]

Sure...but only because he'd probably make Starling bi-sexual. :crazy:

Starling probably already is bi-sexual.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

Sure...but only because he'd probably make Starling bi-sexual. :crazy:

I feel like she already is anyway... :D

[Slewo.O]

If Swierczy ever leaves Birds of Prey (and godDAMN will I be pissed if that happens), Rucka is probably the ONLY guy (aside from maybe Nathan Edmondson) who could take over the book and have me keep reading it.
I'll take one of those two.



Yup. Although most of my customers have blamed it on "nothing happening in DC" I've had a lot of people tell me that it doesn't feel like DC stories right now, or the universe as a whole, are going anywhere. Whereas it's clear that Marvel is building to something, you read most of those books and you can tell that something's coming, there's a reason to keep going, and to read their other books, but a lot of DC books just seem to be treading water.

Wha and huh?

[Marc Lombardi]

I feel like she already is anyway... :D

I get strange vibes from her sometimes. She's extra flirty with Dinah (as if something has gone on with them in the past) but also comes off as being a bit religious at times. She's definitely the most intriguing character to come out of the DCU for me in a long, long time. Very modern, but also fits rather nicely. I really hope that we're not being set up to care for her only to see her die.

[Slewo.O]

I get strange vibes from her sometimes. She's extra flirty with Dinah (as if something has gone on with them in the past) but also comes off as being a bit religious at times. She's definitely the most intriguing character to come out of the DCU for me in a long, long time. Very modern, but also fits rather nicely. I really hope that we're not being set up to care for her only to see her die.

I somehow doubt Duane would be crazy enough to kill off one of the best characters he's ever created. Especially not one that's gotten such great response.

[Slewo.O]

Yo Marc, I'm gonna be honest. Grifter didn't grab me, it was cool enough, but it didn't stick for me. What would you say is Nate's best work? You keep pushing him, and I'd like to give him a second shot.

[Drkemerld73]

That's definitely my preference. But if he's gonna write for Marvel, which I'm fine with, there are some good female characters there he'd be great on.

I'd be brought back to Marvel if he wrote Black Widow.

[Slewo.O]

I think Rucka is already doing solid work with that new cast member he introduced with in Punisher. Rachel Cole-Alves. What an awesome lady.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

I love you, Alex Wagner. I love you so much.

[Slewo.O]

I'd be brought back to Marvel if he wrote Black Widow.

Bru writes a fantastic Black Widow, and she's a regular cast member in Winter Soldier. :)

[Marc Lombardi]

Yo Marc, I'm gonna be honest. Grifter didn't grab me, it was cool enough, but it didn't stick for me. What would you say is Nate's best work? You keep pushing him, and I'd like to give him a second shot.

"Who Is Jake Ellis" was really good, but I think that The Activity is going to be even better. It's such a goooood book!

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

I'd be brought back to Marvel if he wrote Black Widow.

It'd be a good book. So would Echo, Elektra, Dakota North, a SHIELD book with either Hill or Daisy Johnson as the focus. My preference though, would be Spider-Woman.

[Drkemerld73]

Bru writes a fantastic Black Widow, and she's a regular cast member in Winter Soldier. :)

I've heard as much. And I'm happy about that. :)

[Slewo.O]

It'd be a good book. So would Echo, Elektra, Dakota North, a SHIELD book with either Hill or Daisy Johnson as the focus. My preference though, would be Spider-Woman.

I'd kill for more Dakota.

[Drkemerld73]

It'd be a good book. So would Echo, Elektra, Dakota North, a SHIELD book with either Hill or Daisy Johnson as the focus. My preference though, would be Spider-Woman.

I miss Julia Carpenter as Spider-Woman. :(

[Marc Lombardi]

I somehow doubt Duane would be crazy enough to kill off one of the best characters he's ever created. Especially not one that's gotten such great response.

I don't know. Sometimes a great writer knows that the best way to pull the rug our from under a reader is to make him really care about a character before killing them. Think about the characters who have died (and stayed dead) and it really hit you. Were any of them dumb characters who were just created as a throw-away? Or did the writer make them into someone you instantly liked and suddenly WHAM!?

[Drkemerld73]

I wonder how Rucka would do with a Firestar series.... Hmmmm...

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

"Who Is Jake Ellis" was really good, but I think that The Activity is going to be even better. It's such a goooood book!

The Activity is my favorite Image title right now. Love Gerads too. Love both those guys.

In my latest version of Ray's 'Marvel 52' I put Edmondson on Cap, and Gerads on Spider-Woman... with Rucka writing, interestingly enough.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

I miss Julia Carpenter as Spider-Woman. :(

I do not, I really, really do not. :D

[Drkemerld73]

Yup. Although most of my customers have blamed it on "nothing happening in DC" I've had a lot of people tell me that it doesn't feel like DC stories right now, or the universe as a whole, are going anywhere. Whereas it's clear that Marvel is building to something, you read most of those books and you can tell that something's coming, there's a reason to keep going, and to read their other books, but a lot of DC books just seem to be treading water.

Both Animal Man and Swamp Thing feel like they're leading to something big. Of course the interviews with Lemire and Snyder also help with that. :)

[Drkemerld73]

I do not, I really, really do not. :D

:lol:

[Marc Lombardi]

Six issues and the Justice League still hasn't even completely formed a team yet. They're stiall fighting the same fight from the first issue.

I've read 11 or 12 issues of Superman & Action and really couldn't tell you what happened in them.

Wonder Woman has shown progress. Batman has shown progress. Some of the books I picked up and hoped to love have definitely suffered from treading water.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

:lol:

I think she's an okay character, just not Spider-Woman. And I'm a sucker for good espionage cloak and dagger characters.

[Drkemerld73]

I think she's an okay character, just not Spider-Woman. And I'm a sucker for good espionage cloak and dagger characters.

I admit to being slightly biased, because she was the Spider-Woman when I first got into Avengers at the time. :)

I don't think I really knew much about the original one except from the cartoon.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

Six issues and the Justice League still hasn't even completely formed a team yet. They're stiall fighting the same fight from the first issue.

I've read 11 or 12 issues of Superman & Action and really couldn't tell you what happened in them.

Wonder Woman has shown progress. Batman has shown progress. Some of the books I picked up and hoped to love have definitely suffered from treading water.

Yeah, and it's not just about within the individual titles, but the shared universe as a whole. Superhero comic fans need to feel involved and invested in their fictional world, and they need to feel like there's always something coming, that there's a plan, and that things are building towards something more. That's why things like Final Crisis (even with the mixed reviews) and Blackest Night and Brightest Day and all that were hits, because the universe was building towards all of that, you always felt like something big was coming, and the readers not only got invested in the stories in the individual titles, they felt involved in "their world." And DC doesn't have that right now at all. And people online can complain about 'event fatigue' all they want, but that really is what hardcore superhero comic fans want and need to feel.

[Marc Lombardi]

Yeah, and it's not just about within the individual titles, but the shared universe as a whole. Superhero comic fans need to feel involved and invested in their fictional world, and they need to feel like there's always something coming, that there's a plan, and things are building to something more. That's why things like Final Crisis (even with the mixed reviews) and Blackest Night and Brightest Day and all that were hits, because the universe was building towards all of that, you always felt like something big was coming, and the readers not only got invested in the stories in the individual titles, they felt involved in "their world." And DC doesn't have that right now at all. And people online can complain about 'event fatigue' all they want, but that really is what hardcore superhero comic fans want and need to feel.

I'll disagree. I hate events and the last thing I want is to feel like I need to read seven books I don't care for in order to know what's going on in the one book I do. But, as you said, hardcore superhero comic fans don't feel that way -- and I'm definitely not a hardcore superhero comic fan.

My hope was the DCU was rebooting because they wanted to give new people a chance to tell new stories for characters we've become familiar with. Instead there seem to be about 20% of the books doing something new and exciting, with 70% using the same stories to tell the same stuff and the remaining 10% acting as if the reboot never even took place. Not saying DC is doing anything WRONG...just that the reboot is not what I hoped it would have been, and that's more my fault than anything else.

When September rolled around I was reading 13 more DCU titles than I was in August. Six months later that number is down to 8 and falling. In two or three more months it may be down to three. DCU had a great opportunity on their hands and I hate seeing that opportunity dwindle because of some odd decision making in certain circumstances.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

I'll disagree. I hate events and the last thing I want is to feel like I need to read seven books I don't care for in order to know what's going on in the one book I do. But, as you said, hardcore superhero comic fans don't feel that way -- and I'm definitely not a hardcore superhero comic fan.

My hope was the DCU was rebooting because they wanted to give new people a chance to tell new stories for characters we've become familiar with. Instead there seem to be about 20% of the books doing something new and exciting, with 70% using the same stories to tell the same stuff and the remaining 10% acting as if the reboot never even took place. Not saying DC is doing anything WRONG...just that the reboot is not what I hoped it would have been, and that's more my fault than anything else.

When September rolled around I was reading 13 more DCU titles than I was in August. Six months later that number is down to 8 and falling. In two or three more months it may be down to three. DCU had a great opportunity on their hands and I hate seeing that opportunity dwindle because of some odd decision making in certain circumstances.

But you and I aren't the average DC/Marvel/superhero comic fan. I agree with pretty much everything you just said, but you and I aren't in-step with the majority of fans that buy these books. And no one, not even the hardcores, want to feel like they NEED to read 7 other books, but they DO need to feel like they WANT to. That type of fan, and it is the majority of people that read superhero books, really do want that interconnectedness. But more than that, they just want to feel like there's a plan and something is happening and moving forward and towards something.

[Drkemerld73]

But you and I aren't the average DC/Marvel/superhero comic fan. I agree with pretty much everything you just said, but you and I aren't in-step with the majority of fans that buy these books. And no one, not even the hardcores, want to feel like they NEED to read 7 other books, but they DO need to feel like they WANT to. That type of fan, and it is the majority of people that read superhero books, really do want that interconnectedness. But more than that, they just want to feel like there's a plan and something is happening and moving forward and towards something.

I'm not sure where I fall on the scale, but the one thing I'm being increasingly put off by with the new DCU is how interconnected it's shaping up to be with respect to all of the little crossovers they are having these days. And I say this as a DC fan.

I don't mind it being connected, but these mini-crossovers are all over the place more so than I remember them being and I don't want to feel like I have to purchase a title I was never interested in to begin with.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

I'm not sure where I fall on the scale, but the one thing I'm being increasingly put off by with the new DCU is how interconnected it's shaping up to be with respect to all of the little crossovers they are having these days. And I say this as a DC fan.

I don't mind it being connected, but these mini-crossovers are all over the place more so than I remember them being and I don't want to feel like I have to purchase a title I was never interested in to begin with.

Yeah, and I don't think that even the fans that love that interconnectedness want or need all these crossovers, but just that even individually, the books feel like they're all building towards an overall plan or goal, even on their own. Not that you have to read Book A to get Book B, or that Book C ties in to Book D... but that if you ARE reading Books A, B, C, and D, that you can see that there's a plan there, that the world is going somewhere.

[Slewo.O]

I don't know. Sometimes a great writer knows that the best way to pull the rug our from under a reader is to make him really care about a character before killing them. Think about the characters who have died (and stayed dead) and it really hit you. Were any of them dumb characters who were just created as a throw-away? Or did the writer make them into someone you instantly liked and suddenly WHAM!?
Hm, true. But part of what the new 52 is about is to create new characters with longevity. I don't see Duane just offing Starling.

Six issues and the Justice League still hasn't even completely formed a team yet. They're stiall fighting the same fight from the first issue.

I've read 11 or 12 issues of Superman & Action and really couldn't tell you what happened in them.

Wonder Woman has shown progress. Batman has shown progress. Some of the books I picked up and hoped to love have definitely suffered from treading water.
Huh? All the main members of the Justice League have formed up now.

As for Action, what do you think happened?

[Slewo.O]

Yeah, and I don't think that even the fans that love that interconnectedness want or need all these crossovers, but just that even individually, the books feel like they're all building towards an overall plan or goal, even on their own. Not that you have to read Book A to get Book B, or that Book C ties in to Book D... but that if you ARE reading Books A, B, C, and D, that you can see that there's a plan there, that the world is going somewhere.

The individual books do have their own goals. You do have stuff like the Batman, GL books, Wildstorm, and Animal Man/Swamp Thing that have their own shared buildup. Why there has to be some big singular goal is beyond me. Not even all the Marvel books do what you're saying.

Frankly less reliance on big event buildup is more than welcome to me.

[The Doctor]

I'm enjoying the heck out of the new DC titles I read :)

Sticking with them all as long as the current writers stay

Looking forward to checking out JLI but I fear it won't be what I hope it to be

I really think the fact that Booster failed so bad in his job is a plot line begging to be explored, I hope someone does it eventually

[Slewo.O]

Well given the guy who created him, and wrote his last series, is the writer of the book he's in. I don't think we'll be waiting too long. :lol:

[Marcdachamp]

I'm not sure where I fall on the scale, but the one thing I'm being increasingly put off by with the new DCU is how interconnected it's shaping up to be with respect to all of the little crossovers they are having these days. And I say this as a DC fan.

I don't mind it being connected, but these mini-crossovers are all over the place more so than I remember them being and I don't want to feel like I have to purchase a title I was never interested in to begin with.

Teen Titans was one of the DCnU books I was enjoying the most. But with a four part crossover on the way with books I don't pick up, and a tightening of my comics budget, I had to say goodbye.

[Marc Lombardi]

Huh? All the main members of the Justice League have formed up now.

As for Action, what do you think happened?
They're fighting together but they are not a team. We're still in the initial origin battle for crying out loud. Superman threw a punch in the 3rd issue that feels like it hasn't even landed yet in the 6th issue.

And as for Action...it's just non-remarkable. I read it and 30 minutes later couldn't tell you anything that really stood out as being a part of the story. And then to make it worse they stopped the story in the middle to tell an origin story. Again.

Superman is a character who I WANT to love. Hell, I have a Superman tattoo. Any Superman book has a head start for me to love it, so when I read a book and it's nothing special to me I think that it says a lot about my detachment from the story. Neither Superman nor Action has really drawn me in like I was hoping.

[JasonWGBB007]

...

...

...how did no one pounce on this?
because it was an intentional innuendo? ;)

[Slewo.O]

They're fighting together but they are not a team. We're still in the initial origin battle for crying out loud. Superman threw a punch in the 3rd issue that feels like it hasn't even landed yet in the 6th issue.

And as for Action...it's just non-remarkable. I read it and 30 minutes later couldn't tell you anything that really stood out as being a part of the story. And then to make it worse they stopped the story in the middle to tell an origin story. Again.

Superman is a character who I WANT to love. Hell, I have a Superman tattoo. Any Superman book has a head start for me to love it, so when I read a book and it's nothing special to me I think that it says a lot about my detachment from the story. Neither Superman nor Action has really drawn me in like I was hoping.

I'm going to have to disagree completely with the second paragraph. Sorry you're not enjoying those books though Marc.

[Slewo.O]

because it was an intentional innuendo? ;)

You're gonna have to be a little more plain Jason. There's certain subleties in that post I don't get.

[Marcdachamp]

You're gonna have to be a little more plain Jason. There's certain subleties in that post I don't get.

I'll tell you when you're older.

[Slewo.O]

I'll tell you when you're older.

I'm already getting gray here Marc! Quit stalling!

[Slewo.O]

I'm downloading the MGS Snake Eater 3D demo!

Can't wait for this game to come out. :D

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

The individual books do have their own goals. You do have stuff like the Batman, GL books, Wildstorm, and Animal Man/Swamp Thing that have their own shared buildup. Why there has to be some big singular goal is beyond me. Not even all the Marvel books do what you're saying.

Frankly less reliance on big event buildup is more than welcome to me.

Because that's what the majority of superhero fans want. They want that feeling that their shared universe is going somewhere, building towards something. And it's not about the events themselves, or the crossovers, it's just about feeling invested in the shared universe. That's why people like things like Blackest Night and Brightest Day, Countdown, 52, etc. Even the people that didn't think all those stories were very good, they still had fun reading them, because they felt like there was a REASON to.

[Slewo.O]

Because that's what the majority of superhero fans want. They want that feeling that their shared universe is going somewhere, building towards something. And it's not about the events themselves, or the crossovers, it's just about feeling invested in the shared universe. That's why people like things like Blackest Night and Brightest Day, Countdown, 52, etc. Even the people that didn't think all those stories were very good, they still had fun reading them, because they felt like there was a REASON to.

I understand that, but you can do that without an event. There's a tight enough connection between the books that you don't need that.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

I understand that, but you can do that without an event. There's a tight enough connection between the books that you don't need that.

Who said you couldn't? You're the first person to bring up Events in this discussion (outside of Marc stating that he doesn't like them). This discussion isn't about events, nor are the complaints about the new 52 that I'm hearing.

[The Doctor]

Well given the guy who created him, and wrote his last series, is the writer of the book he's in. I don't think we'll be waiting too long. :lol:

Depends on what DC wants

[jason hissong]

I want an event in the New 52.

The New Infinite Crisis on Final Earths!

[Dark Sasha]

Ray. Favorite Kurosawa movie?

[Marcdachamp]

I am so damn excited they're coming out with more Superhero Squad toys. Totally made my day.

[Marc Lombardi]

I am so damn excited they're coming out with more Superhero Squad toys. Totally made my day.
They are??!?!

[Dark Sasha]

Marc. Favorite Kurosawa movie?

[Arion]

I got another letter published this time in Brilliant. Here's a pic ...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i5mk8y7ItPg/Tzs_MOf2OoI/AAAAAAAABuo/SCRlJt7lwkE/s640/a5.jpg

[The Doctor]

I got another letter published this time in Brilliant. Here's a pic ...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i5mk8y7ItPg/Tzs_MOf2OoI/AAAAAAAABuo/SCRlJt7lwkE/s640/a5.jpg

Fantastic

[Erica J Heflin]

I got another letter published this time in Brilliant. Here's a pic ...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i5mk8y7ItPg/Tzs_MOf2OoI/AAAAAAAABuo/SCRlJt7lwkE/s640/a5.jpg

Nice!

[Arion]

Thank you Glenn and Raistlyne , it's always great to get my letters printed.

[Ray G.]

Keep Wonder Woman as is. She's a warrior princess. Technically at this point she's a Titan (child of a God). Let her be free to kick ass. Dark and bloody is fine with me. If DCU wants a lighthearted female superhero there's always Supergirl of Power Girl. Let Wonder Woman be someone that should be feared as much as she's desired.

Supergirl's not exactly lighthearted, but it's a really good, old-school comic with nothing objectionable. It's about a girl trying to find her place in a crazy new world. The villains are serious but not too horrific, and there's a lot of fun, mostly bloodless action on a huge scale.

[Ray G.]

This is what erasing Ted Kord from existence gets you

They could have co-existed so easily...

And really, the #1 thing everyone loved about the first Jaime series was his interactions with his friends and family. Those have all slowly been torn down in depressing fashion in this book. :(

[Arion]

Do you think next month I'll get another letter printed?

[Erica J Heflin]

They could have co-existed so easily...

And really, the #1 thing everyone loved about the first Jaime series was his interactions with his friends and family. Those have all slowly been torn down in depressing fashion in this book. :(

I agree with both of these statement. I really loved Jaime and reading about the people in his life. It was really good stuff.

[Ray G.]

I don't know. Sometimes a great writer knows that the best way to pull the rug our from under a reader is to make him really care about a character before killing them. Think about the characters who have died (and stayed dead) and it really hit you. Were any of them dumb characters who were just created as a throw-away? Or did the writer make them into someone you instantly liked and suddenly WHAM!?

Only Vaughan and Whedon really like to do that. :)

I don't think the book is strong enough without her. She's here for the long haul.

[Ray G.]

Six issues and the Justice League still hasn't even completely formed a team yet. They're stiall fighting the same fight from the first issue.

I've read 11 or 12 issues of Superman & Action and really couldn't tell you what happened in them.

Wonder Woman has shown progress. Batman has shown progress. Some of the books I picked up and hoped to love have definitely suffered from treading water.

Darkseid doesn't go down easily. :)

Both GL and GLC have wrapped up big-scale arcs already.

[Ray G.]

Teen Titans was one of the DCnU books I was enjoying the most. But with a four part crossover on the way with books I don't pick up, and a tightening of my comics budget, I had to say goodbye.

Oh, man, I love TT right now.

Are you picking up Superboy? If so, you only need to buy one extra comic for the crossover.

[Ray G.]

Great job, Arcadio. :)

[MAK15]

Great job arion.

Marc- Diana isn't a Titan if she's the child of a god. Shed be a Demi-goddess. Just throwing that out there

[Marcdachamp]

Oh, man, I love TT right now.

Are you picking up Superboy? If so, you only need to buy one extra comic for the crossover.

Nope. Wasn't picking that up. So two books I don't read. Plus they threw in an Annual. It was just too much. Maybe I'll pick up the trades from here on.

[Marc Lombardi]

Great job arion.

Marc- Diana isn't a Titan if she's the child of a god. Shed be a Demi-goddess. Just throwing that out there

Thank you. I knew I was forgetting the technical term. The Titans were the children of Uranus, right?

[MAK15]

Thank you. I knew I was forgetting the technical term. The Titans were the children of Uranus, right?

Titans were the children of Chronus and Gaea. They're the older siblings of the gods. Some sources say that the cyclopes were also children of Chronus, too

[Dark Sasha]

Ray! Favorite kurosawa movie?!

[Slewo.O]

Ray! Favorite kurosawa movie?!

Mine is Howl's Moving Castle. :razz:

[Marcdachamp]

I liked Eureka's Castle.

[Dark Sasha]

Ray. Get my Car. I'm leaving.

[Ray G.]

Ray. Get my Car. I'm leaving.

You came on a tricycle.

[Drkemerld73]

I know Lemire is leaving Frankenstein, so I'm wondering if that May issue where he goes to look for Animal Man (according to the solicits) is just a single (tie-in, but not really) issue? Or is it supposed to be the start of a multipart storyline?

[Ray G.]

I know Lemire is leaving Frankenstein, so I'm wondering if that May issue where he goes to look for Animal Man (according to the solicits) is just a single (tie-in, but not really) issue? Or is it supposed to be the start of a multipart storyline?

I assume it's a done-in-one, and may be followed up on in Animal Man.

[jason hissong]

I purchased comics today!

Glory
Prophet (second printing)
Uncanny X-Force 19,20, 21 (because S spilled water on them previous)

[Drkemerld73]

I assume it's a done-in-one, and may be followed up on in Animal Man.

Cool.

I perked up when it mentioned him fighting"Rotlings". :lol:

I might have to check it out.

[Ray G.]

Return to Bacon City, everyone!

http://www.grayhavencomics.com/2012/02/16/beacon-city-chronicles-chapter-2/

[Slewo.O]

Return to Bacon City, everyone!

http://www.grayhavencomics.com/2012/02/16/beacon-city-chronicles-chapter-2/

I like Bacon, but who builds an entire city based on it? Only you Ray, only you.

[Dark Sasha]

Christopher Nolan is on the enemy list now.

[Marcdachamp]

Return to Bacon City, everyone!

http://www.grayhavencomics.com/2012/02/16/beacon-city-chronicles-chapter-2/

Bacon!!! :)

[Slewo.O]

Christopher Nolan is on the enemy list now.

What'd he do?

[jason hissong]

What'd he do?

Made a couple of just above average Batman movies with one transcendental performance between them.

;)

[Marcdachamp]

Christopher Nolan is on the enemy list now.

Maybe he can give me some pointers. I really want on that list.

[Ray G.]

Christopher Nolan is on the enemy list now.

And this puts you on the Sasha list.

[Dark Sasha]

Ray is enemy #1!

[Slewo.O]

Made a couple of just above average Batman movies with one transcendental performance between them.

;)
I can see how that would offend Sasha. :p



Maybe he can give me some pointers. I really want on that list.
I think I'm on the list twice. I'd give you advice, but speak not a word of the Court of Sasha. Speak not a whispered word of him, or he'll send the Ginger for your head!

[Marcdachamp]

And this puts you on the Sasha list.

Wait. Are you gonna have to marry him now?

[Ray G.]

Wait. Are you gonna have to marry him now?

There's a one-Sasha limit on that particular perk.

[Marcdachamp]

There's a one-Sasha limit on that particular perk.

"It's the no SashaS Club. We can have one!"

[Dark Sasha]

Certified copy gets a Criterion!

[Dark Sasha]

Ray. That's a my two sasha movie spoof/goof right there!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_8TPLMCOU

[Dark Sasha]

The Doppelgangland script is so fucking brilliant. Whedon is good.

[Dark Sasha]

Still waiting for that car, Ray.

[Dark Sasha]

ohhhhhh and Summer with Monika gets a blu ray! Ohhhhh Swedish erotica that only Bergman can deliver! Sex and SMART!

[Dark Sasha]

http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/therealmikeholmes/17663799726/1/tumblr_lzg54oyn5k1qbg1ph

[CapnChaos]

I like Bacon, but who builds an entire city based on it? Only you Ray, only you.

*cough*

Uh....

yo.

[The Doctor]

They could have co-existed so easily...

And really, the #1 thing everyone loved about the first Jaime series was his interactions with his friends and family. Those have all slowly been torn down in depressing fashion in this book. :(
Johns still has to explain who that was at the end of his run :)

Do you think next month I'll get another letter printed?
Never say never!

Return to Bacon City, everyone!

http://www.grayhavencomics.com/2012/02/16/beacon-city-chronicles-chapter-2/
:D great stuff

Bacon!!! :)

I think this is the main joke I contributed

[Slewo.O]

Johns still has to explain who that was at the end of his run :)

Never say never!

:D great stuff

I think this is the main joke I contributed

It was already confirmed at a con, and again in that issue of Booster tying into BN. It was just a loose end, a really cool one too. :(

[Deej]

I just saw this and had to post about it...

Guess who was voted THE WORST Justice League member of all time??


http://www.newsarama.com/comics/worst-justice-league-members-120215-1.html

http://i.newsarama.com/images/jlavibe.jpg

If one character can come to signify something greater than him or herself, it's possible that Vibe's has accidentally become the avatar for everything that was misguided with the Justice League Detroit era.


You can see the reasoning: He was a character tied to a trend that was in its death throes as he appeared (breakdancing -- his first appearance was a double-page spread showing off his moves) who had both a ham-fisted attempt at social relevance (He was trying to make a better life for himself after leaving the Los Lobos gang, with writer Gerry Conway daring to expose the connections between well respected musical groups and Detroit gang culture when others were too afraid) and inexplicable dialogue quirk (he had a fake Mexican accent that he put on around white people) at his core, as well as an amazing original costume that mixed MC Hammer-style pants with shades, soul patch and vest.


Bearing all that in mind, it's difficult to imagine what made Vibe Justice League material other than being in the right place in the right time. And yet... there's something charming about Paco Ramone's short-lived existence, whether it was his overconfidence or excitement about being a superhero in the first place. Vibe also has a particularly important place in Justice League history as being the first Leaguer to be killed in the line of duty, launching an unfortunate trend that would continue for a long time afterwards. If only he'd joined up with a different team that dealt with smaller problems, perhaps Vibe would still be with us today, and perhaps he would've evolved into a character people remembered as more than a gimmick gone wrong. Who's for a new Vibe ongoing series in the next round of DC New 52 launches?

[Ray G.]

Heh. It could be no one else, although a very good case could also be made for Agent Liberty, Maxima, or Huntress.

[Slewo.O]

Heh. It could be no one else, although a very good case could also be made for Agent Liberty, Maxima, or Huntress.

The fact Aztek is on there is a crime. (Hi Deej)

[Dark Sasha]

Person of Interest is fucking boring.

[CapnChaos]

Guess what?!?

Our first podcast is up!
http://www.movienoise.com/aisle/2012/02/16/aisle-of-the-damned-episode-i-the-phantom-menace/

Please listen and let us know what you think. I'm trying to figure out how to put it on iTunes, so hopefully that option will be up soon as well.

[Ray G.]

The fact Aztek is on there is a crime. (Hi Deej)

Yeah, he seemed really out of place with the rest of those morts.

Huntress, I like as a character, but she was one of the worst fits for the JL ever. Is she the only JLer ever to be officially expelled for misconduct?

[Mylazycat]

Person of Interest is fucking boring.

Go read some more Alan Moore cry fests.

[CapnChaos]

Yeah, he seemed really out of place with the rest of those morts.

Huntress, I like as a character, but she was one of the worst fits for the JL ever. Is she the only JLer ever to be officially expelled for misconduct?

Love Huntress. One of my favorite characters. (Well, the REAL one, anyway.) Enjoyed her JL arc, as well. And really, she was right. Batman can suck it.

[Ray G.]

Go read some more Alan Moore cry fests.

:lol:

I'm rather pissed off at CBS right now, though. They pulled the full episodes off their site without warning. I was able to find a low-quality recording of last week's online, fortunately, and now I'm recording this one.

[Ray G.]

Love Huntress. One of my favorite characters. (Well, the REAL one, anyway.) Enjoyed her JL arc, as well. And really, she was right. Batman can suck it.

In retrospect, maybe Batman should have let her put an arrow in Prometheus' head.

[Dark Sasha]

At least Alcatraz has like "Hey! this guy throws mines at people!". Person of Interest is just a lamer version of a good movie and Jim Cavisel sounds like he is dubbed.

[CapnChaos]

In retrospect, maybe Batman should have let her put an arrow in Prometheus' head.

I get that Batman won't kill, because he's pathological.

But what is stopping him from paralyzing him permanently? It would sure make it harder for him to kill people. He'd save a hell of a lot more lives than playing tag with him over and over and over and over...

[Ray G.]

I get that Batman won't kill, because he's pathological.

But what is stopping him from paralyzing him permanently? It would sure make it harder for him to kill people. He'd save a hell of a lot more lives than playing tag with him over and over and over and over...

Because then he's not "the good guy".

Batman, more than any other hero, is still operating from a child's view of justice due to the trauma he experienced.

[Slewo.O]

Yeah, he seemed really out of place with the rest of those morts.

Huntress, I like as a character, but she was one of the worst fits for the JL ever. Is she the only JLer ever to be officially expelled for misconduct?
I think her and Green Arrow after he killed Prometheus. The whole idea behind her in the JLA was exactly that, too bad Batman's attempt at changing her failed.



Love Huntress. One of my favorite characters. (Well, the REAL one, anyway.) Enjoyed her JL arc, as well. And really, she was right. Batman can suck it.
Yeah and she would have sunk to Prometheus' level, that's what Batman didn't want.



In retrospect, maybe Batman should have let her put an arrow in Prometheus' head.
:lol:

Too true.



I get that Batman won't kill, because he's pathological.

But what is stopping him from paralyzing him permanently? It would sure make it harder for him to kill people. He'd save a hell of a lot more lives than playing tag with him over and over and over and over...
I agree, but then it's the slippery slope argument y'know? It's too easy for him to sink to further lows. Either way Batman had reprogrammed Prometheus' helmet to emulate Stephen Hawking and they retconned in that J'onn trapped Prometheus in a telepathic loophole. Not quite his fault. :p

[Slewo.O]

Because then he's not "the good guy".

Batman, more than any other hero, is still operating from a child's view of justice due to the trauma he experienced.

Ray gets it. Deep down Bruce is that kid, Batman is a child's ideal of a hero. He won't murder or cripple someone to stop them. It's not in him.

[Foolish Mortal]

If Batman starts killing and crippling crooks, then he's just the Punisher with a cape.

[Slewo.O]

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110923225332/marvel_dc/images/a/a6/Batman_Titans_Tomorrow_001.jpg

[Ray G.]

If Batman starts killing and crippling crooks, then he's just the Punisher with a cape.

Or Thomas Wayne. :)

Man, that was one of the best Elseworlds ever.

[Slewo.O]

Or Thomas Wayne. :)

Man, that was one of the best Elseworlds ever.

I want a sequel dangit!

[Dark Sasha]

What?! BATMAN IS A CHILD?! WELL I NEVER!

[Erica J Heflin]

I want a sequel dangit!

I would love to see more, too.

[Mylazycat]

I would love to see more, too.

Me, three!

[The Doctor]

Guess what?!?

Our first podcast is up!
http://www.movienoise.com/aisle/2012/02/16/aisle-of-the-damned-episode-i-the-phantom-menace/

Please listen and let us know what you think. I'm trying to figure out how to put it on iTunes, so hopefully that option will be up soon as well.
Will listen when I can

I would love to see more, too.

Me too:)

[Ray G.]

So apparently Marvel's got a giant month in March. 83 books, including 26 titles double-shipping and some sort of Hulk weekly.

[Mylazycat]

So apparently Marvel's got a giant month in March. 83 books, including 26 titles double-shipping and some sort of Hulk weekly.

Oh, lord, my poor wallet. I'm betting a lot of stuff I get double ships.

[jason hissong]

I really enjoyed Glory, Prophet and Conan yesterday.

[Slewo.O]

I really enjoyed Glory, Prophet and Conan yesterday.

I have to get to Conan. Still haven't finished that.

[Slewo.O]

All those double shipping books geez. Do they want to send people to the poor house?

[Howlett]

So apparently Marvel's got a giant month in March. 83 books, including 26 titles double-shipping and some sort of Hulk weekly.

*brain farts and dies*

[Erica J Heflin]

So apparently Marvel's got a giant month in March. 83 books, including 26 titles double-shipping and some sort of Hulk weekly.

:shock:

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

Person of Interest is fucking boring.

I'm gonna love this show, aren't I.

[chazbot]

So apparently Marvel's got a giant month in March. 83 books, including 26 titles double-shipping and some sort of Hulk weekly.

Hooray for double shipping, more fill-in artists!!

[Dark Sasha]

I'm gonna love this show, aren't I.

Watch this instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1NiNKwueE

[jason hissong]

Johnny is so jealous of me.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

Johnny is so jealous of me.

I am.

For about 5 different reasons.

[jason hissong]

I am.

For about 5 different reasons.

I slept with it in the bed last night.

[Dark Sasha]

I was gonna make a "Jason has a body pillow" joke but I see that's the reality of the situation.

[Slewo.O]

I slept with it in the bed last night.

You slept with Chris Ware?

[jason hissong]

This:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c88/jhiss/photo-6.jpg

[The Doctor]

So apparently Marvel's got a giant month in March. 83 books, including 26 titles double-shipping and some sort of Hulk weekly.

Trying to get that old market share back:)

[Dark Sasha]

Samuel Pepsi?

[AndrewG]

So apparently Marvel's got a giant month in March. 83 books, including 26 titles double-shipping and some sort of Hulk weekly.

Perfect jumping off point for a lot of titles and they just put a bullet in X Factor.

[Marc Lombardi]

So apparently Marvel's got a giant month in March. 83 books, including 26 titles double-shipping and some sort of Hulk weekly.

Are any of those double-shipping books Daredevil or Ultimate Spidey?

[jason hissong]

Samuel Pepsi?

Yes. You're familiar, right?

[Slewo.O]

Perfect jumping off point for a lot of titles and they just put a bullet in X Factor.
How's it a bullet for X-Factor? And yeah,
I'm definitely gonna have to pass on a few books. Double-shipping is gonna kill my finances.



Are any of those double-shipping books Daredevil or Ultimate Spidey?

Daredevil is one.

[AndrewG]

Are any of those double-shipping books Daredevil or Ultimate Spidey?

Two Daredevil, Ult Spidey only 1

[Dark Sasha]

I prefer Jeffrey Coke

[AndrewG]

How's it a bullet for X-Factor? And yeah,
I'm definitely gonna have to pass on a few books. Double-shipping is gonna kill my finances.

Daredevil is one.

Raise the price and double ship? Crazy. That's like DC doing it to I Vampire. You're asking people to leave

[The Doctor]

A very special Sunken Treasure courtest of THWP, Tellos!

http://thwpdotnet.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/sunken-treasure-tellos/

[chazbot]

Raise the price and double ship? Crazy. That's like DC doing it to I Vampire. You're asking people to leave

It's almost like they actively want people to leave the book, so they can justify canceling it and relaunching it in a "bold, new direction."

[Dark Sasha]

Do you think I will be able to get issues of Raquel Welch Rising around?

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

I slept with it in the bed last night.

You slept with two of the things I'm jealous of you for then...

[AndrewG]

A very special Sunken Treasure courtest of THWP, Tellos!

http://thwpdotnet.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/sunken-treasure-tellos/

No pirate voice? :)

[Marc Lombardi]

Two Daredevil, Ult Spidey only 1
I'm ok with that. :) Daredevil is such a good book right now I actually look at two issues in one month as a plus. As long as I don't need to read AvX to see what's going on...

[jason hissong]

You slept with two of the things I'm jealous of you for then...

She's in SFO.

[AndrewG]

It's almost like they actively want people to leave the book, so they can justify canceling it and relaunching it in a "bold, new direction."

Ayep

[Marcdachamp]

Perfect jumping off point for a lot of titles and they just put a bullet in X Factor.

I'm fairly certain X-Factor is pretty "safe" right now.

[Dark Sasha]

Wait wait wait. Double shipping is terrible but if new fans want to buy a 130 dollar omnibus of the new 52 that's different?

[Slewo.O]

Raise the price and double ship? Crazy. That's like DC doing it to I Vampire. You're asking people to leave

They raised the price of X-Factor? Wha-what?

[Slewo.O]

It's almost like they actively want people to leave the book, so they can justify canceling it and relaunching it in a "bold, new direction."
Weren't the outfits "bold" enough?



She's in SFO.

So it IS Chris Ware!

[Slewo.O]

Wait wait wait. Double shipping is terrible but if new fans want to buy a 130 dollar omnibus of the new 52 that's different?

The omnibus is a luxury item Sasha.

[AndrewG]

Wait wait wait. Double shipping is terrible but if new fans want to buy a 130 dollar omnibus of the new 52 that's different?

That's less than 3 bucks an issue . Good deal

[chazbot]

Wait wait wait. Double shipping is terrible but if new fans want to buy a 130 dollar omnibus of the new 52 that's different?

The Omnibus is shipped twice a month and raised its cost by 25% with no added content?

[Dark Sasha]

Wait wait wait. A company wants to make money! Well what about Before Watchmen? That art.

[Dark Sasha]

New fans buy anything!!! New fans!!!

[Slewo.O]

That's less than 3 bucks an issue . Good deal




The Omnibus is shipped twice a month and raised its cost by 25% with no added content?

Enough with the logic, geez!

[Dark Sasha]

Look. A lot of comics can be read in 2 minutes so whether or not a dollar more will do anything is arbitrary.

[Slewo.O]

Wait wait wait. A company wants to make money! Well what about Before Watchmen? That art.

What the hell does that have to do with the raised prices and double shipping?

[Slewo.O]

Look. A lot of comics can be read in 2 minutes so whether or not a dollar more will do anything is arbitrary.

Now I think you're just trying to miss the point...

[AndrewG]

Wait wait wait. A company wants to make money! Well what about Before Watchmen? That art.

There's a huge demand for more Watchmen. I don't think people are asking for prices to be raised and half the line to double ship.

[AndrewG]

Look. A lot of comics can be read in 2 minutes so whether or not a dollar more will do anything is arbitrary.

Paying more isn't arbitrary

[Howlett]

Now I think you're just trying to miss the point...

If you only "think" that about him then you've never been paying attention.

[Slewo.O]

If you only "think" that about him then you've never been paying attention.

:lol:

True, but sometimes you expect things to change even a little. Shows what I know.

[Dark Sasha]

Paying more isn't arbitrary

But I can make the case that 20 pages for 2.99 with 600 words(maybe!) is also not worth the price in some cases.

[chazbot]

New fans buy anything!!! New fans!!!

The lapsed fan is as big of an aim for the new52 as new fans.


Look. A lot of comics can be read in 2 minutes so whether or not a dollar more will do anything is arbitrary.

What comic are you reading in two minutes?

[Dark Sasha]

I listened to a 4 minute song on my ipod. Midway through I read Batman #6. I finished it right at the end of the song. It was good, but it was also short.

[Dark Sasha]

:lol:

True, but sometimes you expect things to change even a little. Shows what I know.
http://www.google.ca/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Look-whos-talking1.jpg&sa=X&ei=aJQ-T-7yM6rz0gGC8ejoBw&ved=0CAsQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNGjFiEuboQLYEViLyVsR8IvT2IyPQ

[chazbot]

I listened to a 4 minute song on my ipod. Midway through I read Batman #6. I finished it right at the end of the song. It was good, but it was also short.

It helps to take the time to look at the art.

[Dark Sasha]

It helps to take the time to look at the art.

It's also nice to have a book that has more than 600 words in it because comics are both.

[chazbot]

It's also nice to have a book that has more than 600 words in it because comics are both.

There are tons of books with more than 600 words in an issue. Buy those. Show the industry what is valued by you.

[Dark Sasha]

There are tons of books with more than 600 words in an issue. Buy those. Show the industry what is valued by you.

Which is why I'm trying to find out if I can find these Rachel Rising issues.

[Dark Sasha]

Hey! Dan didio on ancient alien!

[Dark Sasha]

But come on, guys. Words are great. Comic books are about a special kind of poetry. You're losing that for this "storytelling".

[MAK15]

But come on, guys. Words are great. Comic books are about a special kind of poetry. You're losing that for this "storytelling".

but even if words are great, I don't want too many words. Bendis' New avengers run around Dark Reign/Siege really upset me because it felt like a bunch of superheroes sitting around the dinner table, talking.
and hell, that's how some of the new issues feel at the moment, too.

The best I've seen a comic with a lot of words is in the old Conan comics, where they'll have long lines of narration to help set the mood and tell the reader what's going on. Of course they actually hand lettered those suckers, and it was all beautiful, but I digress.

Comics is a medium where the images alone should be able to tell the story. otherwise, you ought to be reading a book.

[Dark Sasha]

It's all about poetry between both of them. Comic books are not storyboards or paintings on one thing. It's about words and pictures telling a story.

[MAK15]

okay, that's true.

I still don't want to read a bunch of back and forth dialogue, though. That shit's boring

[Dark Sasha]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWB-NWZ7z_U

[JasonWGBB007]

http://gifs.gifbin.com/3204840swsw.gif

[Slewo.O]

I acknowledge my problems Sasha. Do you?

[Slewo.O]

It helps to take the time to look at the art.

:lol:

[Slewo.O]

It's all about poetry between both of them. Comic books are not storyboards or paintings on one thing. It's about words and pictures telling a story.

You can also do comics that are completely silent Sasha.

[Deej]

Did anyone notice that Ted (Theodore) Kord's name appears in a printout in OMAC #6 page 2, panel 1?

[Slewo.O]

Did anyone notice that Ted (Theodore) Kord's name appears in a printout in OMAC #6 page 2, panel 1?

I didn't see that. But I did notice that guy with the Kord industries uniform in the prior issue. :lol:

[Dark Sasha]

http://nedroid.com/comics/2012-02-16-beartato-tombstones.png

[Marcdachamp]

:lol:

What's the name of this webcomic?

[MAK15]

it's the nedroid picture diary on nedroid.com

[Slewo.O]

Any of you folks know about anything about speed camera trucks?

[The Doctor]

No pirate voice? :)
Even though it would have been appropriate here more than any other review, no:)

Did anyone notice that Ted (Theodore) Kord's name appears in a printout in OMAC #6 page 2, panel 1?

No.........

Was it the living brain?

[Slewo.O]

Even though it would have been appropriate here more than any other review, no:)

No.........

Was it the living brain?

You're thinking of Lord Eye.

[The Doctor]

I need someone to talk me out of buying the Dark Tower Omnibus

[The Doctor]

You're thinking of Lord Eye.

Wha?

[Slewo.O]

I need someone to talk me out of buying the Dark Tower Omnibus

Don't buy it or I'll come over and visit you?

[Slewo.O]

Wha?

I was being cute and referencing Lord Eye. He's a version of Brother Eye, except his A.I is composed of Maxwell Lord's brain.

[jason hissong]

I need someone to talk me out of buying the Dark Tower Omnibus

Doctor-

Don't buy it.

Save that money.

Use it to buy the forthcoming THE INVISIBLES Omnibus.

[The Doctor]

Don't buy it or I'll come over and visit you?
Damn that is pretty good

I was being cute and referencing Lord Eye. He's a version of Brother Eye, except his A.I is composed of Maxwell Lord's brain.
.....

I like pizza

Doctor-

Don't buy it.

Save that money.

Use it to buy the forthcoming THE INVISIBLES Omnibus.

How can I buy it if its Invisible?

[Marcdachamp]

Don't buy it or I'll come over and visit you?

:lol:

DON'T DO IT, GLENN!

[Dark Sasha]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgkVNK6ViJk&feature=related

[Slewo.O]

Damn that is pretty good

.....

I like pizza

How can I buy it if its Invisible?
:lol:

You're confused, but I'm not lying. It's a real character. :)




:lol:

DON'T DO IT, GLENN!

I'll come and visit you too Marc! :mad:

[Mister Mets]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgkVNK6ViJk&feature=related

Thanks for posting that.

[Ray G.]

*brain farts and dies*

:lol:

I messed up on that post. Should have said May. But everything else is accurate.

[Ray G.]

Perfect jumping off point for a lot of titles and they just put a bullet in X Factor.

Yep. I had hoped they had learned from the last year, but it seems not. Time to do some pull list trimming.

[Ray G.]

Are any of those double-shipping books Daredevil or Ultimate Spidey?

Daredevil yes, USM no.

It's a five-week month, so that explains the double shipping a bit. But not really.

[Ray G.]

Raise the price and double ship? Crazy. That's like DC doing it to I Vampire. You're asking people to leave

They raised the price on X-Factor?

[Dark Sasha]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/41762edi11513/prv11513_pg5.jpg

[Slewo.O]

Archie apparently is too cool to go below the belt.

[Ray G.]

Wait wait wait. Double shipping is terrible but if new fans want to buy a 130 dollar omnibus of the new 52 that's different?


Wait wait wait. A company wants to make money! Well what about Before Watchmen? That art.


New fans buy anything!!! New fans!!!


Look. A lot of comics can be read in 2 minutes so whether or not a dollar more will do anything is arbitrary.


But I can make the case that 20 pages for 2.99 with 600 words(maybe!) is also not worth the price in some cases.

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