Question about the Inhumans

[Thudpucker]

How long have the Inhumans been around in the Marvel Universe?

They first appeared in Fantastic Four #45, 1965. In the original stories the Inhumans were around during the 1950's and 60's. The problem is that the Fantastic Four were reconned, they didn't get their powers until the 1990's (I think) now.


Have the Inhumans been officially retconned too? When did the Kree create them?

[Thudpucker]

The Savage Land is another piece of the puzzle that's hard to fit. Aliens visited Earth and experimented on Humans at least 3 times:

The Celestials created the Eternals

The Kree created the Inhumans

The Nuwali created the Savage Land

Any other races I'm forgetting? The Atlanteans... not sure about. I think they were normal humans transformed by magic.

[Foolish Mortal]

From what I recall from the Marvel Universe entry...

The Kree first came to Earth a few thousand years after the first Celestial host had left after experimenting on early humans.

The Kree performed their own experiments on humans because human biology was similar to their own and they believed humans might hold a clue to solving their problem as the evolution of their race had stagnated. They created the first 'inhumans' by using the Terrigen Mist to trigger a forced hyper-evolution.

At some point, the Kree left Earth. Apparently their ongoing war with Skrulls had escalated and they had to turn their resources elsewhere.

The inhumans built the city of Attilan in the Arctic Circle to isolate themselves from the rest of humanity. The evolved brains of the Inhumans were able to utilize the technology left behind by the Kree and they created a rigid caste system in which your place in society is decided by the abilities you gain following exposure to the Terrigen Mist.

As the rest of the human society advanced, the city of Attilan was in risk of being discovered, and eventually they were. Black Bolt had Attilan relocated to the Himalayas to isolate themselves again, but then later had it moved to the "Blue Area of the Moon," nestled in the ruins of an ancient city built by the alien Kree whose technology gives the "Blue Area" its own artificially created atmosphere.

Like everything else, the Marvel timeline is extremely compressed. So Black Bolt moved Attilan to the moon sometime in the mid-90's. Although technology would've been advanced enough to have discovered Attilan well before that.

[Patch]

Do not think too hard about this stuff. We're all just making it up as we go along.

[Foolish Mortal]

Any other races I'm forgetting? The Atlanteans... not sure about. I think they were normal humans transformed by magic.

I don't believe it was ever said how the Homo-Mermanus (Atlanteans) came about. I think it was just assumed they were another off-shoot of humans created by the Celestials experiments.

[Thudpucker]

From what I recall from the Marvel Universe entry...

The Kree first came to Earth a few thousand years after the first Celestial host had left after experimenting on early humans.

The Kree performed their own experiments on humans because human biology was similar to their own and they believed humans might hold a clue to solving their problem as the evolution of their race had stagnated. They created the first 'inhumans' by using the Terrigen Mist to trigger a forced hyper-evolution.

At some point, the Kree left Earth. Apparently their ongoing war with Skrulls had escalated and they had to turn their resources elsewhere.

The inhumans built the city of Attilan in the Arctic Circle to isolate themselves from the rest of humanity. The evolved brains of the Inhumans were able to utilize the technology left behind by the Kree and they created a rigid caste system in which your place in society is decided by the abilities you gain following exposure to the Terrigen Mist.

As the rest of the human society advanced, the city of Attilan was in risk of being discovered, and eventually they were. Black Bolt had Attilan relocated to the Himalayas to isolate themselves again, but then later had it moved to the "Blue Area of the Moon," nestled in the ruins of an ancient city built by the alien Kree whose technology gives the "Blue Area" its own artificially created atmosphere.

Like everything else, the Marvel timeline is extremely compressed. So Black Bolt moved Attilan to the moon sometime in the mid-90's. Although technology would've been advanced enough to have discovered Attilan well before that.

That's what I'm thinking too, the move to the Moon must have taken place sometime during the 1990's now.

I guess the same would be true with Ka-Zar and the Savage Land? The Savage Land was discovered by Ka-Zar's father, who took him there and then died leaving Ka-Zar to grow up in the Savage Land. So... The Savage Land was discovered in te 1980's?

[Keith P.]

I don't believe it was ever said how the Homo-Mermanus (Atlanteans) came about. I think it was just assumed they were another off-shoot of humans created by the Celestials experiments.

It's never been disclosed.

[Thudpucker]

Do not think too hard about this stuff. We're all just making it up as we go along.

I'm hoping someone will have a great idea that retcons all of this stuff into something workable because I'd love to see more. Hickman's excellent FF run and Paul Jenkin's current Ka-Zar mini has my hopes up, really loving them.

[Keith P.]

And the Celestials created the Eternals, the Deviants, and homo sapiens.

The Eternals were meant to represent stasis, the ultimate stable genome, resulting in immortality.

The Deviants were the polar opposite, constant dynamic flux, completely unpredictable.

And humans were in between, stable, but still subject to entropy, and suceptible to mutation with the proper outside stimulus.

[Thudpucker]

I don't believe it was ever said how the Homo-Mermanus (Atlanteans) came about. I think it was just assumed they were another off-shoot of humans created by the Celestials experiments.

It might just be me but I always thought normal humans lived on the continent of Atlantis before it sank. I might be mixing Marvel's Atlantis up with DC's Atlantis though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis_(Marvel_Comics)

edit - Googling doesn't help much. My best guess is 21,000 years ago they were all normal humans when the Deviants sank the continent. Sometime between then and 8,000 years ago they genetically engineered themselves to survive in their new environment.

[Thudpucker]

And the Celestials created the Eternals, the Deviants, and homo sapiens.

The Eternals were meant to represent stasis, the ultimate stable genome, resulting in immortality.

The Deviants were the polar opposite, constant dynamic flux, completely unpredictable.

And humans were in between, stable, but still subject to entropy, and suceptible to mutation with the proper outside stimulus.

I think the Eternals and Deviants are still the richest material for great stories that Marvel is ignoring. There is just so much there... the Titans and Uranians, the Subteraneans... it's great stuff.

[Keith P.]

I think the Eternals and Deviants are still the richest material for great stories that Marvel is ignoring. There is just so much there... the Titans and Uranians, the Subteraneans... it's great stuff.

I do too. I think there is a lot of potential if they could get a good, hard science fiction writer to do them.

[Patch]

I'm hoping someone will have a great idea that retcons all of this stuff into something workable because I'd love to see more. Hickman's excellent FF run and Paul Jenkin's current Ka-Zar mini has my hopes up, really loving them.

Hickman's drawing FF now?

[Thudpucker]

Hickman's drawing FF now?

:lol:

The art is the main reason I picked it up actually, all three artists have blown me away. Kitson's art on issue 5 is some of the best artwork I've ever seen, I stared at it for hours.

[Patch]

:lol:

Yes.
Yes, indeed.

[Foolish Mortal]

I think the Eternals and Deviants are still the richest material for great stories that Marvel is ignoring. There is just so much there... the Titans and Uranians, the Subteraneans... it's great stuff.
Funny thing is, Kirby never intended for the Eternals to be put in the Marvelverse. He meant for them to exist in their own world and be the only superhumans in their world. That's why he based them on mythological characters that already existed in the Marvelverse. The Inhumans were meant to be the Eternal-like characters of the Marvelverse. (Thus why they have similar origins)

Kirby's Eternals series was canceled before it finished it's main storyline. Then Roy Thomas and Mark Gruenwald brought the Eternals and the Celestials into official Marvel continuity in Thor's book.