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Foolish Mortal
05-28-2011, 07:23 AM
Tom Jane Getting Axed From New Sylvester Stallone Film Because He's White? (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/05/27/tom-jane-getting-axed-from-new-sylvester-stallone-film-because-hes-white/)


Walter Hill's next picture should be Headshot, a hitman thriller set to star Sylvester Stallone. Until now we believed that the film's second billed star would be Tom Jane, the man who was Stander and star of The Mist and The Punisher, as a cop who would team up with Sly’s paid assassin.

Aint It Cool (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/49802) were first to report that Jane would likely not be in the film. They've got a hotline to Stallone, so it's not entirely surprising to see news appearing on their site.

The reason for Jane's exclusion? It has nothing to do with star Stallone or director Hill, but apparently "the studio" – ie. Warner Bros., and their belief in an old formula:


What I hear is that while Stallone and Hill like Jane for the part (they must since he’s cast already), the film is now with Warner Bros' Dark Castle and the studio wants Jane replaced with someone more "ethnic" in order to meet an in-house formula-for-success. The word is that Jane's still the favorite for Hill and Stallone, but the studio is insistent on getting a minority in the role.

So, because one-white, one-black buddy crime thrillers have been a hit before, a film with two white leads will fail to appeal at the box office? Is there nobody at Dark Castle or Warner Bros. who sees the patent stupidity of this?

Of course, there's a lot of evidence that studios, not least Warner Bros. themselves, are keen on repeating formulas – witness our review of The Hangover Part 2 (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/05/26/ed-whitfield-has-a-hangover-too-with-the-hangover-part-2/) from yesterday, which reports how that second film is more or less a scene-by-scene remake of the first.

Tom Jane himself has provided a quote to Arrow in the Head: (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=28480)


No comment, but I can tell you this, we have a classic with me & Sly & Hill. Script is tailor made for us all.

Spidey616
05-28-2011, 07:28 AM
"So, because one-white, one-black buddy crime thrillers have been a hit before, a film with two white leads will fail to appeal at the box office?"

Well, if it ain't broke..... ;)

schizorabbit
05-28-2011, 07:32 AM
I always thought that Blade Runner would have been a bigger box office hit if they had partnered Harrison Ford with Chris Tucker. Where's that thread where Cth and I riffed on that goldmine of an idea?

Roman Noodles
05-28-2011, 07:34 AM
I always thought that Blade Runner would have been a bigger box office hit if they had partnered Harrison Ford with Chris Tucker. Where's that thread where Cth and I riffed on that goldmine of an idea?


Wasn't this called the Fifth Element?

Foolish Mortal
05-28-2011, 07:40 AM
I always thought that Blade Runner would have been a bigger box office hit if they had partnered Harrison Ford with Chris Tucker. Where's that thread where Cth and I riffed on that goldmine of an idea?
He was partnered with Edward James Olmos so he was partnered with a minority. :D

Fourthman
05-28-2011, 07:42 AM
Thank god, otherwise they would've had to bring up his inability to act.

Roman Noodles
05-28-2011, 07:42 AM
He was partnered with Edward James Olmos so he was partnered with a minority. :D

He wasn't colorful enough.

Foolish Mortal
05-28-2011, 07:48 AM
What really disturbs me is if they have this "formula" for buddy movies, then they have other formulas too. Makes me wonder how many parts that a minority actor was chosen for got nixed by the studio because their formula says a white actor should play that role.

Fourthman
05-28-2011, 07:51 AM
What really disturbs me is if they have this "formula" for buddy movies, then they have other formulas too. Makes me wonder how many parts that a minority actor was chosen for got nixed by the studio because their formula says a white actor should play that role.

All of them? This is a similar situation to Affirmative Action. Sure, Jane is someone a lot of people seem to want to see, but I can't fault a studio for trying to correct an inequality by using a "formula". I mean, if they're going to apply that anywhere it makes sense to do it in a film already artistically bankrupt enough to cast Stallone.

Roman Noodles
05-28-2011, 07:53 AM
All of them? This is a similar situation to Affirmative Action. Sure, Jane is someone a lot of people seem to want to see, but I can't fault a studio for trying to correct an inequality by using a "formula". I mean, if they're going to apply that anywhere it makes sense to do it in a film already artistically bankrupt enough to cast Stallone.


BINGO! :lol:

Foolish Mortal
05-28-2011, 08:02 AM
All of them? This is a similar situation to Affirmative Action. Sure, Jane is someone a lot of people seem to want to see, but I can't fault a studio for trying to correct an inequality by using a "formula". I mean, if they're going to apply that anywhere it makes sense to do it in a film already artistically bankrupt enough to cast Stallone.
Yeah but they're not doing this to for racial equity, they're doing it because of $$$. If they get a script that has a minority actor playing a part, but they have a "formula" that says a white person should be playing that particular part, then the minority actor gets booted.

Matthew Brown
05-28-2011, 08:07 AM
What really disturbs me is if they have this "formula" for buddy movies, then they have other formulas too. Makes me wonder how many parts that a minority actor was chosen for got nixed by the studio because their formula says a white actor should play that role.

Probably most of them. Hollywood wants "normal" everymen in lead roles for their audience to empathize with, and their definition of normal is white, straight and male. And like Dwayne McDuffie said, you can't usually throw in more than one or two black characters without it suddenly becoming a black property in some people's eyes. It reminds me of that Kevin Spacey movie, 21. Based on a true story, with most of the players in the nonfiction novel being Asian-Americans. Not only did Hollywood make the lead white, but there were only two token Asian characters, in background roles. With the white people doing all the important stuff.

This formula nonsense is just more proof about how up its own ass these people are about making movies.

Fourthman
05-28-2011, 08:11 AM
Yeah but they're not doing this to for racial equity, they're doing it because of $$$. If they get a script that has a minority actor playing a part, but they have a "formula" that says a white person should be playing that particular part, then the minority actor gets booted.

But your proposed "formula" is just the reality of casting 90% of the time. If we now have evidence of economic factors seeking to correct that (however unintentional that may be), I'm hard pressed to have a problem with it.

Kedd
05-28-2011, 09:54 AM
Yeah but they're not doing this to for racial equity, they're doing it because of $$$. If they get a script that has a minority actor playing a part, but they have a "formula" that says a white person should be playing that particular part, then the minority actor gets booted.
This.

majorjoe23
05-28-2011, 09:56 AM
http://www.the-isb.com/images/Punisher260.jpg

Wait, they're going with a black Punisher now?

Kedd
05-28-2011, 10:03 AM
http://www.the-isb.com/images/Punisher260.jpg

Wait, they're going with a black Punisher now?
Black Punisher :nonono2: What were they thinking?

Roman Noodles
05-28-2011, 12:45 PM
Black Punisher :nonono2: What were they thinking?

That the money they were going to make from the tie-in sex toys was going to make them RICH.

Spidey616
05-28-2011, 12:49 PM
Clearly there's only one thing for Thomas Jane to do-

http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2009/01/robert-downey-jr-tropic-thunder.jpg

Pia Guerra
05-28-2011, 03:27 PM
But they've already met the formula! With all the plastic surgery Stallone has had he now fits the 'ethnic' role perfectly!

http://www.flix66.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/The-Expendables.jpg

Or do the studios just not want that part to be the lead?

CapnChaos
05-28-2011, 03:35 PM
Clearly there's only one thing for Thomas Jane to do-

http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2009/01/robert-downey-jr-tropic-thunder.jpg

I was going to go with a Soul Man reference, but it was the same general idea. :lol:

Supreme Convoy
05-28-2011, 06:34 PM
Clearly there's only one thing for Thomas Jane to do-

http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2009/01/robert-downey-jr-tropic-thunder.jpg

Thomas Jane has to go full retard?

majorjoe23
05-28-2011, 07:40 PM
And I hear they're replacing him with ice Cube in the sequel to this:

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2009/09/04/homeless-dad.jpg

SeanC
05-28-2011, 11:50 PM
Thomas Jane has to go full retard?

You NEVER go full retard.