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[Adrian B AWESOME]

The 'E cut it dividend share from $.36 (with $.12 usually waived by the McMahons) to an outright $.12. This is huge from an investment standpoint. I mean, the 'E is still paying a quarterly dividend which is good, but to reduce to pay rate that much says they need more reinvestment into the company. It'll be interesting to see how investors react.

[joeAR]

The 'E cut it dividend share from $.36 (with $.12 usually waived by the McMahons) to an outright $.12. This is huge from an investment standpoint. I mean, the 'E is still paying a quarterly dividend which is good, but to reduce to pay rate that much says they need more reinvestment into the company. It'll be interesting to see how investors react.


By pushing my fellow Broski? I don't have a serious response

[Adrian B AWESOME]

By pushing my fellow Broski? I don't have a serious response

I mean, I don't know why I posted it. I was just kind of shocked. I don't have any insight other than "Wow, that's way less than they used to dish out."

[joeAR]

I mean, I don't know why I posted it. I was just kind of shocked. I don't have any insight other than "Wow, that's way less than they used to dish out."


No I would have posted it also. I personally love reading about the inside workings of the WWE. I just dont have a serious response at the moment.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

In other news the 'E is looking for creative writers to have on staff. I assume it's to write some of the television ads or kids books or whatever, as I can't see any reason for a professional wrestling company to need a creative staff. I mean, it's real to me damn it!

[Gregory]

I can't see any reason for a professional wrestling company to need a creative staff.

Especially when Santino can just steal Chico Marx's material.

[Weasel21385]

Do the releases start today?

I've been reading all week that they were supposed to, but I haven't heard any actual cuts yet.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Especially when Santino can just steal Chico Marx's material.

If I remember correctly the documentary Bloodstained Memories has Piper ranting about the need for a creative staff to write promos for guys and how they used to just come up with their own. Well, that's fine and dandy for guys with skill like Rowdy Roddy or the Macho Man, but clearly most of the 'E's guys couldn't cut a promo if their lives depended on it. Unconscious sleep? Are you serious bro? There's no way that's what creative wrote.

[Blake Sims]

When I was a kid I was okay with Bobby the Brain, I hated Jimmy Hart. He was such a weaselly bastard.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

And it's worse now for guys who can't just fill their promos with inane name-calling and homophobic slurs.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

When I was a kid I was okay with Bobby the Brain, I hated Jimmy Hart. He was such a weaselly bastard.

I love me some Jimmy Hart and his megaphone. Heenan always made me laugh because he was smarter than everyone else so it wasn't that he was so much a heel but "burdened" with intelligence. :lol:

[Blake Sims]

I love me some Jimmy Hart and his megaphone. Heenan always made me laugh because he was smarter than everyone else so it wasn't that he was so much a heel but "burdened" with intelligence. :lol:

Same with Dave, looking back I see how awesome Hart was.

I recently saw that clip from WCW where Heenan was turned around pouting during the commentating. Hilarious.

[Mark4myself]

Watching Impact last night in HD I was shocked at how small Sting and Anderson are. Barely any physique. While a good thing in some regards they really look like they barely do any weight training.

Plus Scott Steiner cutting promos is always a train wreck. It is astounding how much he can bungle the english language.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Watching Impact last night in HD I was shocked at how small Sting and Anderson are. Barely any physique. While a good thing in some regards they really look like they barely do any weight training.

Plus Scott Steiner cutting promos is always a train wreck. It is astounding how much he can bungle the english language.

RVD's always looked a bit pudgy and small. Sting's physique is just age getting to him.

Also, I don't think anyone watches Impact anymore. They simply experience it.

[Gryphon]

I've been reading all week that they were supposed to, but I haven't heard any actual cuts yet.

FCW talent Jinder Mahal is appearing on smackdown tonight so the turnover has begun.

[Weasel21385]

FCW talent Jinder Mahal is appearing on smackdown tonight so the turnover has begun.

Really? I hope they bring up Steamboat's kid soon. I have heard good things about him.

[Gryphon]

Really? I hope they bring up Steamboat's kid soon. I have heard good things about him.

Its just a brief appearance so far.

I agree abour Richie steamboat.

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

Steamboat Jr. Has looked very very good from what I've seen of his FCW appearances. He has all the look and ring skills and the lagacy, and even has potential on the charisma and mic side. I'd love to see a Legacy 2.0 come in and destroy Nexus and the Corre once and for all. Have the legend fathers come out and warn the heel their groups are done and their in for a world of pain if they don't just voluntarily disband now. next week The Rotundo Bros, Richie Steamboat, and DH Smith beat them down and set up the match where losers must disband. And Joe Henning turns and is a face during the match.

[SteveFlack]

Steamboat Jr. Has looked very very good from what I've seen of his FCW appearances. He has all the look and ring skills and the lagacy, and even has potential on the charisma and mic side. I'd love to see a Legacy 2.0 come in and destroy Nexus and the Corre once and for all. Have the legend fathers come out and warn the heel their groups are done and their in for a world of pain if they don't just voluntarily disband now. next week The Rotundo Bros, Richie Steamboat, and DH Smith beat them down and set up the match where losers must disband. And Joe Henning turns and is a face during the match.

I dunno, I don't mind second generation superstars, I'm just bored by wrestlers who's entire gimmick is being a second generation superstar. I'd rather their dad's stay out of it.

Also, what is WWE going to rename Richie Steamboat?

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

Elvin Chang

[Greenville 90210]

Also, what is WWE going to rename Richie Steamboat?

Clay Richards.

[Gryphon]

His WWE name IS Richie steamboat.

[Gryphon]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Spoiler_Loser_Leaves_WWE_Match_Scheduled_For_Extre me_Rules.html

Layla vs Mchelle McCool will be a Loser leaves WWE match instead of loser leaves smackdown match according to the australia broadcast.

[SteveFlack]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Spoiler_Loser_Leaves_WWE_Match_Scheduled_For_Extre me_Rules.html

Layla vs Mchelle McCool will be a Loser leaves WWE match instead of loser leaves smackdown match according to the australia broadcast.

Noooo! Not Layla!

[SteveFlack]

Elvin Chang

I like it!


His WWE name IS Richie steamboat.

Nope, it's Elvin Chang.

[Gryphon]

Noooo! Not Layla!

I dont want to lose Layla, She is the competent one from Laycool.

[Greenville 90210]

His WWE name IS Richie steamboat.

FCW doesn't count.

[DAVE]

Its not that no one's entertained by him. It's just we're all screaming "WILL SOMEONE JUST FINALLY BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF HIM!"

And by now, I want the Divas first in line before Lawler. J.R. already legit broke his hand attacking him, he's to the back of the line.

That's exactly what a heel is supposed to make you feel.

[Gryphon]

FCW doesn't count.

His name is richard blood Jr

On the independents he was Ricky steamboat Jr

When he came to wwe he became Richie Steamboat.

[joeAR]

Noooo! Not Layla!


WWWWWHHHHHHYYYYYYY????????!!!!!!!!!

I loved Laycool.

[Weasel21385]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Spoiler_Loser_Leaves_WWE_Match_Scheduled_For_Extre me_Rules.html

Layla vs Mchelle McCool will be a Loser leaves WWE match instead of loser leaves smackdown match according to the australia broadcast.

Seriously awful news.

[Gryphon]

Isnt Layla currently dating Cody Rhodes? I thought I read that somewhere.

[SteveFlack]

That's exactly what a heel is supposed to make you feel.

No, according to internet Smarks, heels are supposed to be cheered for. Because liking them makes you cool. Also, you are supposed to hate faces, because they suck.

God forbid there's an actual guy on TV you really hate.

[joeAR]

One of the main things that bother me about Cole is how his character literally switches on and off. It drives me nuts.

[SteveFlack]

One of the main things that bother me about Cole is how his character literally switches on and off. It drives me nuts.

I think the problem is that he's still trying to be the play by play guy. Josh Matthews needs to just take complete control of that role. Cole needs to be full time color guy. And Jerry Lawler just needs to retire.

[Weasel21385]

One of the main things that bother me about Cole is how his character literally switches on and off. It drives me nuts.

I hate that because of Cole we have to watch him and Lawler wrestle more often than 85% of the WWE locker room. I also hate when he yells for an entire match the same sentence over and over. "GET EM JACK! GET EM JACK! GET EM JACK!" "TAP OUT LAWLER! TAP OUT LAWLER! TAP OUT LAWLER!"

[Adrian B AWESOME]

I dunno, I don't mind second generation superstars, I'm just bored by wrestlers who's entire gimmick is being a second generation superstar. I'd rather their dad's stay out of it.

Also, what is WWE going to rename Richie Steamboat?

I agree!

[Gryphon]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/tnas-latest-publicity-stunt-hall-of-famer-added-to-super-8-129171

Jeff Jarrett's latest idiotic publicity stunt for TNA.

[Gryphon]

Apparently Michelle McCool needs surgery again so it looks like Layla will win on sunday.

[Mark4myself]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/tnas-latest-publicity-stunt-hall-of-famer-added-to-super-8-129171

Jeff Jarrett's latest idiotic publicity stunt for TNA.

"In my great country, the United States of America, we don’t waste money on useless phony families, their ridiculous weddings and the divorces that always follow."

Uh....really Jeff? Since WHEN?

[Greenville 90210]

His name is richard blood Jr

On the independents he was Ricky steamboat Jr

When he came to wwe he became Richie Steamboat.

He has yet to appear on WWE television. We don't know what they'll call him once he's on TV. Sometimes guys keep their developmental names and gimmicks, sometimes they don't.

[Greenville 90210]

One of the main things that bother me about Cole is how his character literally switches on and off. It drives me nuts.

Me too. He's either not good at it or the WWE isn't using him right. He could be a better heel announcer by not taking the lead so much on both shows.

[Mark4myself]

His WWE name IS Richie steamboat.

No the name used in FCW doesn't reflect what it may be in WWE. Many of the second generation stars had their names changed when they were bumped up to the main roster a la Hennig & Rotundo. This move is made even more ridiculous when they refer to them as a second generation star.

[Greenville 90210]

I think the problem is that he's still trying to be the play by play guy. Josh Matthews needs to just take complete control of that role. Cole needs to be full time color guy. And Jerry Lawler just needs to retire.

Agreed!

[Mark4myself]

Apparently Michelle McCool needs surgery again so it looks like Layla will win on sunday.

I just read that Michelle McCool is actually legit leaving WWE not only for a brief period but for good. Maybe her and Taker are planning a family with his career winding down?

[Gryphon]

I just read that Michelle McCool is actually legit leaving WWE not only for a brief period but for good. Maybe her and Taker are planning a family with his career winding down?

WHere did you read that?

[Mark4myself]

http://nodq.com/tna/306059727.shtml

Mick Foley wanted to be at Rock's birthday celebration on Raw and TNA ok'd it but WWE declined. Interesting. Moreso that TNA said Okay.

And he returns to TV next week. Could Mick Foley be Angle's Mistress? Turn in to TNA Impact to find out!!!!

[Mark4myself]

WHere did you read that?

PWInsider.com by way of http://nodq.com/wwe/306108635.shtml

[SteveFlack]

http://nodq.com/tna/306059727.shtml

Mick Foley wanted to be at Rock's birthday celebration on Raw and TNA ok'd it but WWE declined. Interesting. Moreso that TNA said Okay.

And he returns to TV next week. Could Mick Foley be Angle's Mistress? Turn in to TNA Impact to find out!!!!

Of course TNA would OK it. It would mean one of their superstars getting an appearance on the bigger show. They have nothing to lose. WWE, on the other hand, really gains nothing by having Foley on the show, and wouldn't really want to give TNA any help.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Of course TNA would OK it. It would mean one of their superstars getting an appearance on the bigger show. They have nothing to lose. WWE, on the other hand, really gains nothing by having Foley on the show, and wouldn't really want to give TNA any help.

Pretty much.

[Mark4myself]

Yeah I see the TNA and WWE sides to it. I guess I was just a little more shocked that it went that far to him actually asking and discussion on it.

Not overly shocked just more like a "hmmmm....okay"

[Gryphon]

Yeah I see the TNA and WWE sides to it. I guess I was just a little more shocked that it went that far to him actually asking and discussion on it.

Not overly shocked just more like a "hmmmm....okay"

WWE has no reason to want to help an indie company.

[Brad N.]

Of course TNA would OK it. It would mean one of their superstars getting an appearance on the bigger show. They have nothing to lose. WWE, on the other hand, really gains nothing by having Foley on the show, and wouldn't really want to give TNA any help.

Really? WWE gains nothing? One of the most popular stars in the history of the company, one time tag team partner of The Rock, making a surprise one-night appearance does nothing for them? Okay.

[SteveFlack]

Really? WWE gains nothing? One of the most popular stars in the history of the company, one time tag team partner of The Rock, making a surprise one-night appearance does nothing for them? Okay.

Well, it's more like the negatives outweigh the positives. They might pop a bigger quarterly hour rating because of it, but The Rock's presence on the show guarantees them better ratings then they usually do anyway.

[Mark4myself]

There is also the fact that WWE DID promote his latest book, not that it helped all that much lol.

So there is some basis for a reason thinking they may allow this. Although I would have been stunned since it doesn't really benefit them nearly as much as it would TNA. The office at TNA being as anti-WWE as Hogan's twittering implies I'm shocked they said okay as I'd imagine they'd view it as a concession of sorts helping out their rival. But that office is fucked six ways to Sunday so who even knows.

[SteveFlack]

There is also the fact that WWE DID promote his latest book, not that it helped all that much lol.

That was a thank you gesture from Vince after Foley said nice things about Linda McMahon's senate campaign. So, in regards to this, it's more of a "What have you done for me lately?"

[Gryphon]

That was a thank you gesture from Vince after Foley said nice things about Linda McMahon's senate campaign. So, in regards to this, it's more of a "What have you done for me lately?"

ANd really WWE has no reason to help out the indies.

[UltimateFactor]

So Sin Cara is feuding with Fella. Wouldn't mind DBD Feuding with Rhodes after the PPV.

[Brad N.]

ANd really WWE has no reason to help out the indies.

Oh, come on now. This is getting ridiculous. Even this TNA apologist admits they're sucking it up lately but to call them an indie fed makes you sound silly.

[The Human Target]

How is any company an indie?

[Shane W]

Really? WWE gains nothing? One of the most popular stars in the history of the company, one time tag team partner of The Rock, making a surprise one-night appearance does nothing for them? Okay.


Right, it does nothing, because the only people that will know are the people that are already watching. Next week, no Foley and those that would have turned in would get nothing,

[Gryphon]

Oh, come on now. This is getting ridiculous. Even this TNA apologist admits they're sucking it up lately but to call them an indie fed makes you sound silly.

I consider them the biggest of the indies but never a major league.

[UltimateFactor]

Interesting bit from the Stock holders meeting WWE had.


Vince was asked when he was going to "buy that company based in Nashville, TN because they have the wrong people running it. Please save the business from Dixie Carter." McMahon laughed. The stockholder said, "Stephanie has more brains than Dixie Carter has." They showed Triple H and Stephanie laughing at this development. The stockholder said that if WWE bought TNA now, there "was a shot at fixing that company." Vince said, "I don't know they are for sale." The stockholder said, "It's a 50/50 shot, they know you are loaded with money." McMahon said, "Maybe."

Tons more stuff.

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/Vince_McMahon_Speaks_-_Buying_TNA_The_Rocks_D.php

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Interesting bit from the Stock holders meeting WWE had.



Tons more stuff.

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/Vince_McMahon_Speaks_-_Buying_TNA_The_Rocks_D.php

His name is Paul Levesque!! Triple H doesn't exist! :lol:

[Benel Germosen]

How is any company an indie?

They're not the WWE. Who, as we all know, is Professional Wrestling.

[Briomega]

Why the fuck would Vince want anything to do with that sinking ship? What a dumb shareholder.

[Gryphon]

Vince is funny when he tries to BS a lot.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Why the fuck would Vince want anything to do with that sinking ship? What a dumb shareholder.

I get the feeling he's the kind of guy who bought, like, 2 shares of stock so he could tell people he's talked to Vince McMahon.

[UltimateFactor]

I think it'd be awesome if he bought it and then gave it to HHH to run, keeping both companies completely separate and self contained. In my dreams, but still a good dream.

[Brad N.]

Right, it does nothing, because the only people that will know are the people that are already watching. Next week, no Foley and those that would have turned in would get nothing,

They do shit like that all the time, though. How many times do you see a one-time appearance from someone not under contract over the years? I wouldn't say either company gets anything really except making the moment and the Rock B-day bash a little more special. Look at the 15th Anniversary Raw episode or the Old School episode. Both shows were special and had one-time appearances from folks not on the roster, most were not announced either. The only thing being Foley is working for TNA, but Flair was at the Hall of Fame ceremony and WWE really doesn't consider TNA much of a threat so the only ones who win are the fans by giving them one of those classic "you never know what might happen on Raw" moments.

[Briomega]

Also way to insult his kid. Of course Steph has more brains than Dixie. A brain dead monkey with syphilis is smarter than Dixie.

[Brad N.]

I consider them the biggest of the indies but never a major league.

It doesn't matter how YOU look at them. Hell, you could think Pizzza Hut is really in the hamburger business but it doesn't make it so. TNA may not be the WWE, but they have a weekly television deal, they run PPV shows, they sell merchandise and have a website and all that. They may be a distant number two but they are still number two. Grouping them in with companies that draw 50 people in some podunk bar in Tupalo, Mississippi and struggle to get their shows on public access TV is delusional.

[SteveFlack]

They do shit like that all the time, though. How many times do you see a one-time appearance from someone not under contract over the years? I wouldn't say either company gets anything really except making the moment and the Rock B-day bash a little more special. Look at the 15th Anniversary Raw episode or the Old School episode. Both shows were special and had one-time appearances from folks not on the roster, most were not announced either. The only thing being Foley is working for TNA, but Flair was at the Hall of Fame ceremony and WWE really doesn't consider TNA much of a threat so the only ones who win are the fans by giving them one of those classic "you never know what might happen on Raw" moments.

And that is the only reason he won't be on.

[SteveFlack]

Why the fuck would Vince want anything to do with that sinking ship? What a dumb shareholder.

Vince will buy TNA eventually, if only for their tape library. So he can stockpile it into his massive collection for his TV channel.

[Gryphon]

Vince will buy TNA eventually, if only for their tape library. So he can stockpile it into his massive collection for his TV channel.

Pretty much.

[Gryphon]

And it wont matter if Dixie doesnt want to sell because its her parents who own the company and if Vince approaches them right and offers them the right money, then TNA is his.

[Brad N.]

And it wont matter if Dixie doesnt want to sell because its her parents who own the company and if Vince approaches them right and offers them the right money, then TNA is his.

Were you around when Vince bought WCW? Yeah, I wouldn't be cheering for this. Without ANY competition as shitty as WWE has been for years they will only get worse.

[Foolish Mortal]

Considering that Vince has been more conservative on what he spends money on the last few years, I can't see him risking a dime on TNA.

[UltimateFactor]

Sin Cara is awesome. I'm glad he's on Smackdown where he can be better utilized and be helped by the taped shows.

[Briomega]

Sin Cara is awesome. I'm glad he's on Smackdown where he can be better utilized and be helped by the taped shows.

Fuck I missed it. Hate that SD starts at fucking 6pm here.

[Briomega]

Heh that may have been the greatest sell of a Show kick out ever.

[Foolish Mortal]

Fuck I missed it. Hate that SD starts at fucking 6pm here.
The whole show is on YouTube now.

[Briomega]

The whole show is on YouTube now.

Yeah. But I really don't like watching on a small screen. I usually try and catch what I miss on the Universal replay over the weekend.

[Briomega]

Yeah cause that's what Khali was missing. :roll:

[Lab-Rat]

Wow...the dubbing of "WWE" in Michelle's challenge of The Loser leaves stipulation was kind of bad.

[Masculine Todd]

Were you around when Vince bought WCW? Yeah, I wouldn't be cheering for this. Without ANY competition as shitty as WWE has been for years they will only get worse.

TNA hasn't established themselves as viable competition in the nine years they've been active.

[SteveFlack]

TNA will run itself out of business before Vince buys them. There's nothing to be gained from purchasing them now. They don't own any well known intellectual property that Vince would really want (as opposed to WCW, who at least owned "nWo"). At least with WCW, Vince was buying competition to prevent someone else from buying them and continuing to compete with him (remember, Vince only bought WCW after the group of investors Eric Bischoff put together pulled out after WCW lost their TV contract. They weren't interested in purchasing a company that didn't have a TV show).

TNA isn't competition, and not worth his money. He's better off just waiting for it to die so he can buy the video library for a steal.

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

How much money do Dixie's parents have? It can't be that expensive to run...maybe it'll just keep going

[SteveFlack]

I think once Spike decides they no longer want to be in the TNA business, that'll be the beginning of the end.

[SteveFlack]

I don't like these special Sin Cara lights. Doesn't do anything for me.

[SteveFlack]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyDp0HyFRgM

[joeAR]

Superstars was very good this week. Tyson Kidd vs Trent Barretta and David Hart Smith vs Zack Ryder with Smith coming out wearing a cowboy hat and dancing. They also mention The Z! True Long Island Story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UleUnSY0tjM&feature=feedu

[Adrian B AWESOME]

I'VE GOT HIM NOW! :lol:

[Brad N.]

TNA hasn't established themselves as viable competition in the nine years they've been active.

I wouldn't say that. Yes it's true they don't have the kind of money or ratings as WWE, I'm not saying that they're equal competition. I'm just saying as shitty as WWE is now and as lazy as Vince and his writers have been the last 10 years I think losing TNA would only make them worse. I mean, the way it is now despite not being on equal footing with WWE there IS another option for wrestlers to go to in North America. Sting chose TNA over WWE. RVD chose TNA over WWE. Christian and Booker T did as well a few years ago. Without any option it's pretty much just take whatever Vince offers or retire or go to Japan. Or you could take indy bookings which if you're a workhorse willing to travel a lot like Danielson can work out fine, but most WWE guys couldn't live off the measly earnings on the indy scene. While it's probably true that Vince doesn't think MUCH about TNA I guarantee there is at least some thought. They have to know that if they get TOO lazy or start really dropping fans there is always a possibility that TNA could close in a little. Without TNA at all I shudder to think what these last 9 years in WWE would have been like.

[Briomega]

I wouldn't say that. Yes it's true they don't have the kind of money or ratings as WWE, I'm not saying that they're equal competition. I'm just saying as shitty as WWE is now and as lazy as Vince and his writers have been the last 10 years I think losing TNA would only make them worse. I mean, the way it is now despite not being on equal footing with WWE there IS another option for wrestlers to go to in North America. Sting chose TNA over WWE. RVD chose TNA over WWE. Christian and Booker T did as well a few years ago. Without any option it's pretty much just take whatever Vince offers or retire or go to Japan. Or you could take indy bookings which if you're a workhorse willing to travel a lot like Danielson can work out fine, but most WWE guys couldn't live off the measly earnings on the indy scene. While it's probably true that Vince doesn't think MUCH about TNA I guarantee there is at least some thought. They have to know that if they get TOO lazy or start really dropping fans there is always a possibility that TNA could close in a little. Without TNA at all I shudder to think what these last 9 years in WWE would have been like.

That's not competition. TNA doesn't impact (pun intended) WWE in any way, shape or form. They can't compete for TV ratings or PPV buys or live show tickets. They can't compete in merchandise or videogames or toys. That there's an option for guys to go to? Umm there's lots of options, that doesn't make it competition.

[Masculine Todd]

I wouldn't say that. Yes it's true they don't have the kind of money or ratings as WWE, I'm not saying that they're equal competition. I'm just saying as shitty as WWE is now and as lazy as Vince and his writers have been the last 10 years I think losing TNA would only make them worse. I mean, the way it is now despite not being on equal footing with WWE there IS another option for wrestlers to go to in North America. Sting chose TNA over WWE. RVD chose TNA over WWE. Christian and Booker T did as well a few years ago. Without any option it's pretty much just take whatever Vince offers or retire or go to Japan. Or you could take indy bookings which if you're a workhorse willing to travel a lot like Danielson can work out fine, but most WWE guys couldn't live off the measly earnings on the indy scene. While it's probably true that Vince doesn't think MUCH about TNA I guarantee there is at least some thought. They have to know that if they get TOO lazy or start really dropping fans there is always a possibility that TNA could close in a little. Without TNA at all I shudder to think what these last 9 years in WWE would have been like.

RVD, Booker and Christian electing to go to TNA doesn't mean competition. TNA's paltry 1.1 isn't cannibalizing WWE's audience. Nothing they do challenges WWE or their product (nor does it provide incentive to "be better."). That isn't happening.

Suffice to say, it's good that TNA's around for the guys who are released from WWE or who would rather have a reduced schedule, but they're not making the 'E "work harder." They never have.

[SteveFlack]

RVD, Booker and Christian electing to go to TNA doesn't mean competition. TNA's paltry 1.1 isn't cannibalizing WWE's audience. Nothing they do challenges WWE or their product (nor does it provide incentive to "be better."). That isn't happening.

Suffice to say, it's good that TNA's around for the guys who are released from WWE or who would rather have a reduced schedule, but they're not making the 'E "work harder." They never have.

That's not 100% true. The WWE was scared of TNA one time. When Hogan came and they moved the show to Monday Nights, Vince was a little afraid of the return of the Monday Night Wars. Why else would he schedule the return of Bret Hart for the same night?

But in the end, that just ended up with TNA running back to Thursdays, unable to compete with Vince in sort of way.

[Masculine Todd]

That's not 100% true. The WWE was scared of TNA one time. When Hogan came and they moved the show to Monday Nights, Vince was a little afraid of the return of the Monday Night Wars. Why else would he schedule the return of Bret Hart for the same night?

But in the end, that just ended up with TNA running back to Thursdays, unable to compete with Vince in sort of way.

Meltzer reported that the plan with Bret (including the day) was locked for months. His return was the first live Raw of the new year, with the plan being that they'd unload a bombshell to start 2010 with viewer momentum. Vince was never "scared" of TNA going live on Mondays. It wasn't a reactionary booking move, but rather a premeditated one.

Even if, hypothetically, Vince was wary of the effect TNA could have on their product during the second "Monday Night War" ('war' is far from applicable in this situation - a slaughter would be more appropriate), that worry would have dissipated by the next week when TNA bled almost 300,000 viewers. They fell from that 1.5 high of the first night to a 1.2 and continued to shed watchers exponentially over the coming weeks. Before they moved back to Thursday, they were doing .5's and .6's. Again, they were never competition.

[Roger]

Coming out of last night's SmackDown, below is the final card for Sunday's WWE Extreme Rules pay-per-view from Florida. Remember to join us for live coverage here on the site.

Triple Threat Cage Match for the WWE Title
John Cena vs. John Morrison vs. The Miz

Ladder Match for the World Heavyweight Title
Christian vs. Alberto Del Rio

Last Man Standing Match
Randy Orton vs. CM Punk

Falls Count Anywhere Match
Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes

No DQ, No Count-out, Loser Leaves WWE Match
Layla vs. Michelle McCool

Country Whipping Match
Jim Ross & Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole & Jack Swagger

[Blake Sims]

Hey guys, I'm in a digital printmaking class this semester and for the last set of prints I decided to make parodies of classic paintings. I've posted a few on my blog, but I figured you guys would get a kick out of it more than most.
Brawn over Brains:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/blake4000/bigathensflat.jpg

You can see the other two here:
http://blakesimscomics.blogspot.com/2011/04/what-ive-been-up-to-lately.html

[joeAR]

Coming out of last night's SmackDown, below is the final card for Sunday's WWE Extreme Rules pay-per-view from Florida. Remember to join us for live coverage here on the site.

Triple Threat Cage Match for the WWE Title
John Cena vs. John Morrison vs. The Miz

Ladder Match for the World Heavyweight Title
Christian vs. Alberto Del Rio

Last Man Standing Match
Randy Orton vs. CM Punk

Falls Count Anywhere Match
Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes

No DQ, No Count-out, Loser Leaves WWE Match
Layla vs. Michelle McCool

Country Whipping Match
Jim Ross & Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole & Jack Swagger


Just 6 matches?

[Blake Sims]

What the fuck is JR doing wrestling? That's crazy!

[Prime]

Hey guys, I'm in a digital printmaking class this semester and for the last set of prints I decided to make parodies of classic paintings. I've posted a few on my blog, but I figured you guys would get a kick out of it more than most.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/blake4000/bigathensflat.jpg

You can see the other two here:
http://blakesimscomics.blogspot.com/2011/04/what-ive-been-up-to-lately.html

brilliant, just brilliant

[Greenville 90210]

Great stuff, Blake!

Last supper is my new desktop!

[Roger]

Just 6 matches?

oh i'm sure they'll add some during the show.
you know how they do it.

[Greenville 90210]

oh i'm sure they'll add some during the show.
you know how they do it.

Kofi vs. Sheamus vs. Barrett vs. Daniel Bryan BOOK IT!

[Foolish Mortal]

They really, really need Jericho back. I miss him so much...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnr52KT-2lI

[UltimateFactor]

Vader's Son, Jesse White signs with the WWE
http://www.ring-rap.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Jesse-White.jpg

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/WWE_Signs_Former_World_Champions_Son.php

[Brad N.]

I just downloaded a spot-on Vader from Xbox Live for my game and since I'm such a nerd I already had his theme on my HD. When his entrance starts I still mark out, then I get sad and remember how badly the WWE fucked up the best big man in the history of the business. He was SUCH an awesome character in WCW and Japan and even though he had a few decent moments in WWE they completely destroyed him every chance they got.

Anyway, hopefully his kid is decent. He has the right look and build anyway.

[Brad N.]

And that's what makes Jericho and Punk the two best heels in the last 5 years.

[Mark4myself]

I just downloaded a spot-on Vader from Xbox Live for my game and since I'm such a nerd I already had his theme on my HD. When his entrance starts I still mark out, then I get sad and remember how badly the WWE fucked up the best big man in the history of the business. He was SUCH an awesome character in WCW and Japan and even though he had a few decent moments in WWE they completely destroyed him every chance they got.

Anyway, hopefully his kid is decent. He has the right look and build anyway.

Yeah....I remember being pumped for Vader when he first came to WWE and then saw them mess up with him at every conceivable turn. Word was he was going to be given the title at one point but the idea was dropped, quite likely due to Shawn refusing to drop it to him (conflicting reports on that although it sounds right and Shawn opted to drop to Sid). Once the title reign was out of the picture it seemed they didn't know what to do with him and he floated around while they twiddled thumbs. He never had that monster mystique he had in WCW. Only for a brief period when he first came in.

But the moment that really ruined him as a monster has more to do with Hogan's ego. In one of their matches on PPV I believe Hogan no sold Vader's Power bomb. He jumped right up from it and hulked out. This was Vader's devastating finisher a move that had legit broken someone's back. Hogan acted like it was nothing and no-sold it diminishing the mystique of Vader along with it. Just one of a million reasons why Hogan sucks.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Hey guys, I'm in a digital printmaking class this semester and for the last set of prints I decided to make parodies of classic paintings. I've posted a few on my blog, but I figured you guys would get a kick out of it more than most.
Brawn over Brains:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/blake4000/bigathensflat.jpg

You can see the other two here:
http://blakesimscomics.blogspot.com/2011/04/what-ive-been-up-to-lately.html

:lol: That looks fantastic, Blake!

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

Love the art, Blake!

Kinda bummed that Vader's kid looks just like the rest of the E"s developmental generic squad, but maybe pappa taught him to work better.

[The Human Target]

The WWe (I'm going to use the little e when making fun of it) roster looks like such a frat house. Its funny.

[Your Pal, Carl]

Hey guys, I'm in a digital printmaking class this semester and for the last set of prints I decided to make parodies of classic paintings. I've posted a few on my blog, but I figured you guys would get a kick out of it more than most.
Brawn over Brains:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/blake4000/bigathensflat.jpg

You can see the other two here:
http://blakesimscomics.blogspot.com/2011/04/what-ive-been-up-to-lately.html

I've ID'd everyone except the two on either side of Typhoon.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

One is Giant Gonzalez.

[Your Pal, Carl]

One is Giant Gonzalez.

okay. I can see that. A little short. I was thinking Barbarian.

The other could be any blonde from that era: Flair? Sid?

[The Human Target]

Wrestlers need to bring back the mustache.

[iGotKittyPryde]

Wrestlers need to bring back the mustache.

Imagine if the new look Dolph just randomly had a sleezebag mustache? That would make all the difference and work really well for his character, actually.

[The Human Target]

I would be super down for a Dolphstache.

[joeAR]

okay. I can see that. A little short. I was thinking Barbarian.

The other could be any blonde from that era: Flair? Sid?


Papa Shango and Greg Valentine, I think.

[joeAR]

Yeah....I remember being pumped for Vader when he first came to WWE and then saw them mess up with him at every conceivable turn. Word was he was going to be given the title at one point but the idea was dropped, quite likely due to Shawn refusing to drop it to him (conflicting reports on that although it sounds right and Shawn opted to drop to Sid). Once the title reign was out of the picture it seemed they didn't know what to do with him and he floated around while they twiddled thumbs. He never had that monster mystique he had in WCW. Only for a brief period when he first came in.

But the moment that really ruined him as a monster has more to do with Hogan's ego. In one of their matches on PPV I believe Hogan no sold Vader's Power bomb. He jumped right up from it and hulked out. This was Vader's devastating finisher a move that had legit broken someone's back. Hogan acted like it was nothing and no-sold it diminishing the mystique of Vader along with it. Just one of a million reasons why Hogan sucks.


I remember reading that Shawn was supposed to drop the belt to Vader at SummerSlam 96 but I could be wrong.

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

Wrestlers need to bring back the mustache.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2604/3898361894_2cd5cefd46.jpg

[Your Pal, Carl]

Papa Shango and Greg Valentine, I think.

I thought Valentine was next to Slaughter.

[Blake Sims]

Thanks guys! I knew if anybody would dig it, it would be in this thread.


And yeah that's Flair between Typhoon and Papa Shango.

I wanted to add more characters, but it was unruly enough as it was. The whole set was the most fun I've had doing research in a long time though.

[Masculine Todd]

You know who really got shafted? D'lo. D'lo = best dude.

[joeAR]

Thanks guys! I knew if anybody would dig it, it would be in this thread.

And yeah that's Flair between Typhoon and Papa Shango.


I just saw the RF on his tights, nicely done.

[joeAR]

You know who really got shafted? D'lo. D'lo = best dude.


I was a big D'Lo fan. He got shafted when he "returned".

[Your Pal, Carl]

Thanks guys! I knew if anybody would dig it, it would be in this thread.


And yeah that's Flair between Typhoon and Papa Shango.

I wanted to add more characters, but it was unruly enough as it was. The whole set was the most fun I've had doing research in a long time though.

Do more. :)

[The Human Target]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2604/3898361894_2cd5cefd46.jpg

Thats a man I'm amazed isn't in the WWe.

[Masculine Todd]

I remember reading that Shawn was supposed to drop the belt to Vader at SummerSlam 96 but I could be wrong.

I've read this as well. If you build this amoral monster up (destroying an elderly Gorilla Monsoon upon arrival, demolishing smaller guys and [in storyline] injuring the Godwin's manager out of spite/malice, etc.) and he's defeated cleanly by the top babyface, there isn't much more you can do. His arc was supposed to culminate in a dominating title run, only for Bret to return and beat him. Shawn squashed that idea hastily. If the monster doesn't win the strap, he's been beaten and loses much of that fearful aura around him. They made a few more attempts to push him - namely in a feud with Undertaker in early '97 - but he never gained that initial momentum back.

[Greenville 90210]

You know who really got shafted? D'lo. D'lo = best dude.

When I went to the TNA House show a few months ago (free ticket, I swear!), D-lo was walking around the arena, watching the show and telling dudes in TNA shirts what to do. My friend and I recognized him. Not sure who else did. :(

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

Just finished watching all three nights of Chikara's King of Trios 2011, and as expected, it was pretty amazingly great. So many amazing matches, comedy match hilarity, touching Sweeney tributes, amazing Japanese wrestlers and legends, The "return" of the 1-2-3 kid who had the match of the whole weekend with Generico, everyone should check it out!

[Alex]

I remember reading articles about how Shelton Benjamin and a lot of the younger guys were into video games and it kinda rubbed the older guys the wrong way because they felt like they couldn't connect with the younger guys seeing them backstage playing on an Xbox or PS3.


It's not like the old days where guys would bond over prostitutes and cocaine.


I heard the backstage gaming as a complaint that the kids weren't watching the matches. And I can see that except for the fourth time a match has taken place on the house circuit.

I believe it was both. At the arena, the younger guys would be playing Xbox instead of watching/learning from the matches and promos. After the show, the guys would want to go back to the hotel room and play PS3 instead of Ric Flairing up the town like the rockstar-mentality older guys were used to.

[Gryphon]

Im guessing that since Tyson Kidd and Yoshi Tatsu were made part of the smackdown intro, they wont get released soon.

[Kirblar]

I've read this as well. If you build this amoral monster up (destroying an elderly Gorilla Monsoon upon arrival, demolishing smaller guys and [in storyline] injuring the Godwin's manager out of spite/malice, etc.) and he's defeated cleanly by the top babyface, there isn't much more you can do. His arc was supposed to culminate in a dominating title run, only for Bret to return and beat him. Shawn squashed that idea hastily. If the monster doesn't win the strap, he's been beaten and loses much of that fearful aura around him. They made a few more attempts to push him - namely in a feud with Undertaker in early '97 - but he never gained that initial momentum back.
This is pretty much why every heel they built up and fed to Cena was released about a year or two later.

[XXXenophile]

Noooo! Not Layla!

No, the rumor is Michelle's leaving.

As others have stated it: TAKER BABIES!!!

[XXXenophile]

That's exactly what a heel is supposed to make you feel.

Yes I know, but they're milking it now way too long and I say its getting dangerously close where someone actually goes old school Memphis and actually tries to attack him. (Which I certainly wouldn't mind!)

[Gryphon]

Im guessing that since Tyson Kidd and Yoshi Tatsu were made part of the smackdown intro, they wont get released soon.

Or am I mistaken?

[joeAR]

Or am I mistaken?


No you're probably right. They're in the intro so chances are they're safe

[Gryphon]

No you're probably right. They're in the intro so chances are they're safe

Then Ted Boring and DBD are safe as well.

[Briomega]

Then Ted Boring and DBD are safe as well.

For now. It's easy enough to change the opening.

[Bervda]

I actually think the PPV card looks really good tonight. Really looking forward to Christian/ADR, Cody/Rey, and Punk/Orton. They'll likely add Sheamus/Kofi so that Kofi can bring the strap back to RAW, and that match should be solid as well. I'll be buying.

[Masculine Todd]

It's pretty weird that we're conjecturing whether [x jobber] is safe simply because they were moved.

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

Mania supposedly hit the million buys though, that may save a lot of jobs

[Damian696]

It's pretty weird that we're conjecturing whether [x jobber] is safe simply because they were moved.

why move them when they're going to release them anyway ?

[Roger]

just saw dylan dog, and kurt angle is in it.
and he was pretty good in it too.

[Gryphon]

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/Major_Batista_WWE_Return_Rumor_WWE_vs._TNA_UK.php
Its rumoured that WWE has offered batista a new deal to return.

[Masculine Todd]

why move them when they're going to release them anyway ?

They've done it countless times.

[iGotKittyPryde]

The way I see it the main drama about Extreme Rules comes from the fact that the most obvious way to go had been to have Miz and Del Rio both as heel champions, one on each brand and now that they are on the same brand you have to give the shaft to one of them.

On one hand - you have Miz, who has gotten over some as champ but I feel like is just at the point where people might be taking him seriously. Plus - you just put him over at Mania - it seems counterproductive to do that and then take the title off him.

On the other you have Del Rio - he was supposed to get the title twice already and he's starting to seriously lose steam. He started off as the heel who didn't ever seem to lose and always seemed to win clean. Now he... keeps losing. It's quite counter-productive.

Now you also have to consider that Del Rio vs. Cena is the hoped for SummerSlam Main Event, according to most. Also - Smackdown has both secondary titles and honestly? It's kind of the secondary show anyway.

So - you know what I think I'd do? I'd let Del Rio win the title and either have Miz retain one last time or give Cena the title. Then make SummerSlam a unification match (if Miz retains, Cena can get the title next month - I'd probably go that way, myself). And then unify the IC and US titles into the main Smackdown title.

Also - Smackdown needs a lead heel. Daniel Bryan has lost a lot of steam and been made a bit of a joke lately. I think a heel turn would be great for him and he'd be put into a great position as a heel and work well that way. Bryan/Orton could actually work well, I think. Bryan/Christian, as well.

[Gryphon]

Kevin Nash asked his fans on twitter if he should stay with the wwe or go back to TNA sparking rumours that he would indeed go back. However, he has since stated he was just curious what his fans thought, he is stayiong with wwe and that he felt the pop at the rumble was better than 5 years at tna.

[Greenville 90210]

Kevin Nash asked his fans on twitter if he should stay with the wwe or go back to TNA sparking rumours that he would indeed go back. However, he has since stated he was just curious what his fans thought, he is stayiong with wwe and that he felt the pop at the rumble was better than 5 years at tna.

Why isn't there an option for retiring?

[Briomega]

I didn't know Nash was still employed. Has he done anything since the Rumble anywhere?

[Roger]

from steve corino's facebook....this really made me laugh!!!!!


With Bin Laden dead what's the chance Ian Rotten runs a "Osama Bin Laden Memorial Show"?

[xhondax]

Kevin Nash asked his fans on twitter if he should stay with the wwe or go back to TNA sparking rumours that he would indeed go back. However, he has since stated he was just curious what his fans thought, he is stayiong with wwe and that he felt the pop at the rumble was better than 5 years at tna.

I thought Nash already signed a 5 year contract with WWE.

[SteveFlack]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qdvM6bgFUQ

[joeAR]

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qdvM6bgFUQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qdvM6bgFUQ)


CAPTURED AND COMPROMISED TO A PERMAMENT END? Couldnt just say killed?

[Adrian B AWESOME]

captured and compromised to a permament end? Couldnt just say killed?

Not PG!

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Cena winning felt really, really, really weird. But R-Truth/Morrison should be fun. And overall the PPV was a lot of fun even though it was a pure face love-fest which, unless you're Steve Flack getting mad at smarks, isn't nearly as fun as it should be.

EDIT: I shouldn't have to say, but I'm joking SF.

[joeAR]

Not PG!


Don't want to upset the kiddies about Osama

[Gryphon]

New Grand slam champion tonight.

[THWIP!]

New Grand slam champion tonight.

Yup. The 11th. And maybe last one. And most accomplished since on top of the world, tag, ic, and euro, he's also had the light heavyweight and the hardcore titles.

[SteveFlack]

Cena winning felt really, really, really weird. But R-Truth/Morrison should be fun. And overall the PPV was a lot of fun even though it was a pure face love-fest which, unless you're Steve Flack getting mad at smarks, isn't nearly as fun as it should be.

EDIT: I shouldn't have to say, but I'm joking SF.

You don't have to. :)

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Yup. The 11th. And maybe last one. And most accomplished since on top of the world, tag, ic, and euro, he's also had the light heavyweight and the hardcore titles.

Regal and Goldust need one of the biggies and Taker/Show need the IC. Show's the only one I could see do it.

Though a Regal/Christian feud could work...possibly.

[Daniel K.]

Not PG!

Yeah! Those kids won't hear all about it all day tomorrow!

[Benel Germosen]

Cena winning felt really, really, really weird. But R-Truth/Morrison should be fun. And overall the PPV was a lot of fun even though it was a pure face love-fest which, unless you're Steve Flack getting mad at smarks, isn't nearly as fun as it should be.

EDIT: I shouldn't have to say, but I'm joking SF.

well, I'm not mad. King of Trios was pretty face-loving too.


Granted, Chikara actually....builds their feuds instead of just...you know...displaying them.

[Gryphon]

Cena is no doubt going to be a transitional champion for del rio to get the world title so that is fine.

[Gregory]

Del Rio has to get a new bodyguard, right? Maybe Mason? Swagger?

[Gryphon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OoDKkMLjsw
Once more with awesome.

[Gregory]

She totally stole that laughter/stare from Hugh Morrus.

You might think she got it from Zodiac Disciple Butcher Beefcake, but you'd be wrong.

[THWIP!]

Regal and Goldust need one of the biggies and Taker/Show need the IC. Show's the only one I could see do it.

Though a Regal/Christian feud could work...possibly.

The likelihood of that happening is very small.

[Foolish Mortal]

She totally stole that laughter/stare from Hugh Morrus.

You might think she got it from Zodiac Disciple Butcher Beefcake, but you'd be wrong.

Natalya has a great evil laugh too. They should have them be a team.

[SteveFlack]

Cena is no doubt going to be a transitional champion for del rio to get the world title so that is fine.

More like "Del Rio will be the transitional champ to move the belt from John Cena to John Cena."

[Adrian B AWESOME]

More like "Del Rio will be the transitional champ to move the belt from John Cena to John Cena."

My thoughts exactly! So Miz/Cena at Over the Limit.

If anyone's a transitional champion it's Christian. They can't make Orton champion fast enough.

I was surprised how much in-ring action there was last night.

[Kman00001]

http://www.rohwrestling.com/news/best-in-the-world-2011-announced-for-ippv/

Jay Lethal returns to Ring of Honor!

[THWIP!]

I feel that the ladder match should have closed the PPV last night.

[Gregory]

They can't make Orton champion fast enough.

Awkward mid-match comeback gestures for everyone!

[SteveFlack]

My thoughts exactly! So Miz/Cena at Over the Limit.

If anyone's a transitional champion it's Christian. They can't make Orton champion fast enough.

I was surprised how much in-ring action there was last night.

"Listen, Alberto, we were going to let you win tonight, but this dude's best friend just had to retire, and he's feeling pretty down in the dumps. The championship is really what he needs to bring his spirits back up. I know, I know, we promised you Wrestlemania, and we're sorry we have to put it off again. Don't worry, we'll get you a belt soon. Promise."

[SteveFlack]

I feel that the ladder match should have closed the PPV last night.

Eh, a Canadian announcing the death of Osama Bin Laden wouldn't have had the same "punch".

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Awkward mid-match comeback gestures for everyone!

Remember when Punk had about 10 minutes of non-stop offense on Orton and then, out of nowhere, he Hulked up, beat Punk with a kendo stick, and then RKO'd him? That makes so much sense!

[Adrian B AWESOME]

"Listen, Alberto, we were going to let you win tonight, but this dude's best friend just had to retire, and he's feeling pretty down in the dumps. The championship is really what he needs to bring his spirits back up. I know, I know, we promised you Wrestlemania, and we're sorry we have to put it off again. Don't worry, we'll get you a belt soon. Promise."

I like him but it seems like most crowds are more apathetic towards him than anything else.

[THWIP!]

Eh, a Canadian announcing the death of Osama Bin Laden wouldn't have had the same "punch".

True, but they didn't know that was gonna happen.

[THWIP!]

I like him but it seems like most crowds are more apathetic towards him than anything else.

I like Alberto too but his push was way too fast. Same thing that happened to Sheamus is gonna happen to him.

[SteveFlack]

True, but they didn't know that was gonna happen.

I'm pretty sure Obama notified Vince about this.

[SteveFlack]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqRD3R5mBfU

[Greenville 90210]

True, but they didn't know that was gonna happen.

Or did they?!?! All the faces won! (except Cole)

[Greenville 90210]

I like Alberto too but his push was way too fast. Same thing that happened to Sheamus is gonna happen to him.

He needs to stop doing the foreign heel introduction at the beginning of EVERY promo. We know your name, that is a dumb attempt at a catchphrase.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqrd3r5mbfu

SHOW US YOUR TITS!

...What?

[Greenville 90210]

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqRD3R5mBfU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqRD3R5mBfU)

Ha! So America is like a shittier version of the McMahon family. I get it now!

[michealdark]

I like Alberto too but his push was way too fast. Same thing that happened to Sheamus is gonna happen to him.

I say have him and Christian go for a few months and have him win the strap at Sumer Slam or better yet Survivor Series. And then to cap off the fued have both be the team captains for the traditional Survivor Series match.

[SteveFlack]

I say have him and Christian go for a few months and have him win the strap at Sumer Slam or better yet Survivor Series. And then to cap off the fued have both be the team captains for the traditional Survivor Series match.

1- The feud is dead, both guys are on different shows.

2- Survivor Series is also dead. Vince is rebranding it as something else this year.

[Masculine Todd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqRD3R5mBfU

You know, I've always thought that senate hearings and a trial looking to indict a business owner who aided, abetted and encouraged steroid use among his employees was the perfect analog of the September 11th attacks. Stephanie and I are of one mind.

[THWIP!]

I say have him and Christian go for a few months and have him win the strap at Sumer Slam or better yet Survivor Series. And then to cap off the fued have both be the team captains for the traditional Survivor Series match.

That would be all well and good but Christian is on Smackdown and Del Rio is on Raw. And they're setting up Del Rio and Cena for Summer Slam.

[THWIP!]

He needs to stop doing the foreign heel introduction at the beginning of EVERY promo. We know your name, that is a dumb attempt at a catchphrase.

I like it. It works.

[Masculine Todd]

Watch us get topical in this wrestling thread!

[Greenville 90210]

I like it. It works.

"My name...my name is Alberto Del Rio...but you...you already know that" is a dumb thing to say every time you speak.

[michealdark]

2- Survivor Series is also dead. Vince is rebranding it as something else this year.

Well fuck Vince, I love the idea for the main match. *pout*

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Survivor Series is unnecessary with Bragging Rights.

[SteveFlack]

Survivor Series is unnecessary with Bragging Rights.

Conversely, creating Bragging Right was unnecessary since Survivor Series was right there!

[Masculine Todd]

I say have him and Christian go for a few months and have him win the strap at Sumer Slam or better yet Survivor Series. And then to cap off the fued have both be the team captains for the traditional Survivor Series match.

Wait, you're advocating a seven month Christian/Del Rio program? Not only is that unfeasible in a contemporary climate where there are several weekly television programs and thirteen PPVs per year, but doing so would freeze any potential main-event advancement for other guys for over half-a-year. These factors compounded with the fact that they're on different brands makes it impossible.

I love Christian and I like Del Rio, but I certainly wouldn't want to see this program continue, especially after the face defeated the heel in such a decisive manner. This should (and likely will) be the termination of the feud.

[Masculine Todd]

Conversely, creating Bragging Right was unnecessary since Survivor Series was right there!

SS had been superfluous for years prior to Vince's decision to expunge it from their yearly PPV schedule. The elimination tag matches are no longer the culmination of several highly-touted singles feuds, but rather an exercise in getting barely-over talent together in two matches for a PPV payday.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Wait, you're advocating for a seven month Christian/Del Rio program? Not only is that unfeasible in a contemporary climate where there are several weekly television programs and thirteen PPVs per year, but doing so would freeze any potential main-event advancement for other guys for over half-a-year. These factors compounded with the fact that they're on different brands makes it impossible.

I love Christian and I like Del Rio, but I certainly wouldn't want to see this program continue, especially after the face defeated the heel in such a decisive manner. This should (and likely will) be the termination of the feud.

Exactly. In storyline, Del Rio's had multiple chances and failed each time and Christian got his revenge for being sidelined for months by Del Rio. It's the end of their feud.

[michealdark]

Survivor Series is unnecessary with Bragging Rights.


Conversely, creating Bragging Right was unnecessary since Survivor Series was right there!

Yeah, I forgot Bragging Rights is their new "My brand is better than your brand" program.


Wait, you're advocating a seven month Christian/Del Rio program? Not only is that unfeasible in a contemporary climate where there are several weekly television programs and thirteen PPVs per year, but doing so would freeze any potential main-event advancement for other guys for over half-a-year. These factors compounded with the fact that they're on different brands makes it impossible.

I love Christian and I like Del Rio, but I certainly wouldn't want to see this program continue, especially after the face defeated the heel in such a decisive manner. This should (and likely will) be the termination of the feud.

Touche. I do think del Rio has a title reign in the future though, and I feel bad that it's being pushed back every time he gets a push going

[Masculine Todd]

"My name...my name is Alberto Del Rio...but you...you already know that" is a dumb thing to say every time you speak.

When I speak, I'm always conscious to include my full name so that I endear myself to those listening. "Hey Bryan, best friend of nine years, my name is Todd Kearns. Want to hear this awesome joke some dude on Twitter posted?" When he's done pummeling me (and rightfully so), I continue.

[Brad N.]

SHOW US YOUR TITS!

...What?

seen em.

[Benel Germosen]

seen em.

Lix plx thx

[Adrian B AWESOME]

- Another match in the Michael Cole vs. Jerry Lawler saga is planned for WWE's Over the Limit pay-per-view. The next match will likely be a singles match between Lawler and Cole.

YESSSSSSS.

[Briomega]

- Another match in the Michael Cole vs. Jerry Lawler saga is planned for WWE's Over the Limit pay-per-view. The next match will likely be a singles match between Lawler and Cole.

YESSSSSSS.

Probably end up being a "something on a pole" match. :sick:

[Damian696]

Yup. The 11th. And maybe last one. And most accomplished since on top of the world, tag, ic, and euro, he's also had the light heavyweight and the hardcore titles.

and WWE-ECW. and ... TNA. :D

[SteveFlack]

Probably end up being a "something on a pole" match. :sick:

Jerry Lawler vs Michael Cole in a "Dignity on a Pole Match"

[Brad N.]

Lix plx thx

If you really haven't seen them Google images is your friend. There is a VERY clear picture taken years ago by a fan at Smackdown where Triple H gave Steph a Pedigree onto a table and when he pulled her arms back her tits flopped out of her top.

[Benel Germosen]

If you really haven't seen them Google images is your friend. There is a VERY clear picture taken years ago by a fan at Smackdown where Triple H gave Steph a Pedigree onto a table and when he pulled her arms back her tits flopped out of her top.

Accidental boob is the best boob.

[Daniel K.]

Don't know if this has been posted yet but: http://www.avclub.com/articles/dwayne-johnson-knew-bin-laden-was-dead-before-you,55375/

Crazy.

[Bervda]

I feel that the ladder match should have closed the PPV last night.

Instead of American vs. Bin Laden in a casket match? Hmmm, I guess if you care more about workrate.

[Gryphon]

Zack Ryder must love all the signs that were up last night.

[Drew]

don't know if this has been posted yet but: http://www.avclub.com/articles/dwayne-johnson-knew-bin-laden-was-dead-before-you,55375/

crazy.

that's what i said last night!

[Gryphon]

Rock is gonna have a DAMN! good guest on raw tonight.

[Roger]

Dixie and mick are backstage at raw....

[Gryphon]

Dixie???

[Roger]

Dixie???

Yeah. You read that right....

[Bervda]

Except, not really. I sometimes question the sites you guys use for your news updates.

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=57629

[Mark4myself]

Dixie and mick are backstage at raw....

Fingers crossed for some accidental boob there!!!!


Waiting for the misread that I mean Mick ;-)

[joeAR]

Except, not really. I sometimes question the sites you guys use for your news updates.

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=57629


Was just about to post that.

We were made aware this afternoon that a website known for making up false news and crediting it to legitimate news outlets is claiming we are reporting Mick Foley and Dixie Carter are at Raw. WE DID NOT REPORT THAT and there is NOT TRUTH TO THAT REPORT.
For everyone who wrote us about the report, obviously, I don't have to tell you that if they are making up false reports about this website, then you know how reputable they are as a legitimate news outlet - so don't visit them.

Thank you for your support.

[Mark4myself]

Except, not really. I sometimes question the sites you guys use for your news updates.

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=57629


http://nodq.com/wwe/306376420.shtml
This site has yet to let me down and it says Ron Simmons, Lillian Garcia, and Mae Young are to be backstage. Not sure if they will all be on camera or not but I'd guess 2 out of those 3 probably will be.

And my vote for accidental boob holds steady....I'm looking at you Mae ;-)

[Bervda]

http://nodq.com/wwe/306376420.shtml
This site has yet to let me down and it says Ron Simmons, Lillian Garcia, and Mae Young are to be backstage. Not sure if they will all be on camera or not but I'd guess 2 out of those 3 probably will be.

And my vote for accidental boob holds steady....I'm looking at you Mae ;-)

If you're not using one of the actual pay sites, I'd stick to noDQ of 411 (though I'd avoid most of 411's columns; do they have standards for writers?).

[Greenville 90210]

I hate when people fall for NEWZ!

[Mark4myself]

If you're not using one of the actual pay sites, I'd stick to noDQ of 411 (though I'd avoid most of 411's columns; do they have standards for writers?).

Yeah... I've been burned by wrestling "news" sites in the past and was happy to finally find a non-paying one in which the news tends to be right on the majority of the time.

A good rule of thumb is if it has links to nude pics of Vickie Guerrero its probably not a legit site ;-)

[Greenville 90210]

Donald Trump and Sting are backstage at RAW.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Donald Trump and Sting are backstage at RAW.

So's Art Donovan!

Dennis Stamp's backstage too, but currently, he's not booked.

[Foolish Mortal]

Donald Trump and Sting are backstage at RAW.
I heard it was Sting and Gordon Sumner.

[Mark4myself]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqRD3R5mBfU

:no: Wow...shameless. What a way to make 9/11 about YOU and your family.

On a side note....I miss HOT Stephanie. She was a looker before the implants and everything else.

[Mark4myself]

If you really haven't seen them Google images is your friend. There is a VERY clear picture taken years ago by a fan at Smackdown where Triple H gave Steph a Pedigree onto a table and when he pulled her arms back her tits flopped out of her top.

I've seen the video but I have never seen this "VERY" clear picture you speak of. I demand proof. DEMAND it I say!!!

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

I love me some Moonanite signs

[Adrian B AWESOME]

I love me some Moonanite signs

That made me laugh heartily.

[iGotKittyPryde]

So apparently tonight the party is going to be about not just The Rock but WWE PATRIOTISM! How lovely! Clearly this won't be exploitative and weird at all!

[Roger]

Former TNA X Division Champion Jay Lethal is returning to Ring of Honor for the first time since 2008. The organization issued a press release today to announce that he will appear on the Best in the World online pay-per-view on June 26.

[michealdark]

:no: Wow...shameless. What a way to make 9/11 about YOU and your family.

On a side note....I miss HOT Stephanie. She was a looker before the implants and everything else.

Yup, agreed. Steph circa 1998-2002 was pretty hot

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Former WCW champion David Arquette?!

[Brad N.]

I've seen the video but I have never seen this "VERY" clear picture you speak of. I demand proof. DEMAND it I say!!!

Typing "Stephanie McMahon nip slip" into Google images and making sure your filter isn't on might help. This stuff isn't that hard. I realize at 34 I'm something of an internet porn pro by now, but come on. Do I need to hold your hand and penis too?!?

:lol:

Just giving you shit.

[Brad N.]

Next you're going to tell me you haven't seen the Mickie James nudes.

[joeAR]

Truth attacking Morrison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3ZomRWNEFM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Gryphon]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Possible_Feud_for_the_World_Title_Layla_Comments_o n_McCool_Extreme_Rules.html
Christian's first feud for the world title migfht be with Mark Henry.

[UltimateFactor]

Next you're going to tell me you haven't seen the Mickie James nudes.

Those are awesome.

[UltimateFactor]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Possible_Feud_for_the_World_Title_Layla_Comments_o n_McCool_Extreme_Rules.html
Christian's first feud for the world title migfht be with Mark Henry.

God I hope not.

[XXXenophile]

Probably end up being a "something on a pole" match. :sick:

If its not Judy Bagwell, we riot.

[Gregory]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Possible_Feud_for_the_World_Title_Layla_Comments_o n_McCool_Extreme_Rules.html
Christian's first feud for the world title migfht be with Mark Henry.

He did just fine against Abyss in defending the TNA title. It established him as an aggressive underdog.

[Gryphon]

Last night I had a dream where I was watching ROH except it was owned by the WWE yet it was still exactly the same ROH but one or two wwe guys like zack ryder were there. It was weird.

[SteveFlack]

Last night I had a dream where I was watching ROH except it was owned by the WWE yet it was still exactly the same ROH but one or two wwe guys like zack ryder were there. It was weird.

That's either the most boring dream on the planet, or the most awkward wet dream ever.

[Mark4myself]

Typing "Stephanie McMahon nip slip" into Google images and making sure your filter isn't on might help. This stuff isn't that hard. I realize at 34 I'm something of an internet porn pro by now, but come on. Do I need to hold your hand and penis too?!?

:lol:

Just giving you shit.

LOL

I went for boob instead of slip ;-)

and yes

I have seen Mickie James

ALL of Mickie James!!! BOINGGGG

[Weasel21385]

LOL

I went for boob instead of slip ;-)

and yes

I have seen Mickie James

ALL of Mickie James!!! BOINGGGG

I sadly haven't seen that, I don't know how I missed it.