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[Benel Germosen]

Wade should go back to the blazer and rose. Then he can leave the rose behind on his fallen opponent.

He's a real life Street Fighter character.

[Briomega]

"Kane's skull went through the chair"

Umm, no, that's an impossibility given the move. It's not a DDT. :lol:

[Briomega]

That's a lot of piped in booing.

[ImYrWoodbury]

Would make sense if he loses the case.

Or he could turn heel by cashing in on a decimated baby face champion.

[Brad N.]

RE: best themes

'Taker's early Ministry theme was so rad (the summer '98 versio).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEPPcPeyv-c

Triple H's '99 heel turn theme:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12uAh0lme38

D'lo's '99 solo face run theme:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I71QtNujtuc&feature=related

The Rock's first theme after usurping Farooq and taking control of the Nation (lasted until the Fall of '98):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQnYVU4syRo&feature=related

Rey's WCW theme:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYxKewcifd0&feature=related

Kidman's WCW theme after the Flock's demise in '98:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HvvLEkl1JY

Yeah, what I'm saying is, '98-'99 was great for themes.

I think WCW either licensed a lot of their best themes (Kidman, Rey, Benoit) because I recall hearing many of them in several commercials over the years. I distictly recall hearing Benoit's WCW theme in a Chevy truck commercial around that time.

[Brad N.]

Benoit's WCW theme I loved so much...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg73GW92tDI

[Brad N.]

But this was the best of that era...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lix2YzFOrB0

[somsta121383]

Damn I miss guys like Malenko and Kidman. It's easy to forgot how great they were when they're out of mind for so long.

[SteveFlack]

This one was great


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQDyUHrEDzc

[SteveFlack]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBwhEpJOrcM

So, I finally found a different CM Punk video from Comic Con that has more of HHH's response from after Punk leaves the room. HHH's response just leaves me cold. Corporate HHH just seems boring.

[Greenville 90210]

Triple H is boring.

[Daniel K.]

Triple H is boring.

True, but I can totally see him pulling off a great disengenuous "I'm only thinking of the fans and the company" type of thing before transitioning fully into a heel persona again. And all Punk has to respond with to The Hs little rant is "Really? What about all of the title defenses you weaseled out of? At least I was honest about it."

Also, on the subject of theme songs, Triple H should switch to this song once he turns fully heel and is pretty much doing promos and acting as a McMahon every week. His current song works well for his matches and stuff, but I really don't see him walking out in a suit every week and still spitting water at everyone.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ust0OKfusiE&feature=related

[ImYrWoodbury]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/punk-invaded-comic-con

CM Punk invaded Comic-Con, mocking Triple H and WWE
July 22, 2011

It seems that the de facto holder of the WWE Championship and former WWE Superstar CM Punk is not done poking a stick at his previous place of business

Thursday morning, during Mattel's WWE panel at San Diego Comic-Con 2011, the ex-WWE Superstar reemerged with the WWE Title still in his possession, strolling into a conference room where Triple H, Hall of Famer Bret “Him Man” Hart and Rey Mysterio were answering questions.

Punk promptly began to ridicule Triple H – the very Superstar and WWE executive who recently relieved Mr. McMahon of his leadership duties as WWE Chairman on Monday Night Raw.

Punk's mocking led to an intense verbal confrontation between Punk and Triple H. When Punk asked the subject of his scorn, “how’s life in Fantasy Land?” Triple H responded, “how’s the unemployment line?”

Addressing Rey Mysterio about WWE’s match this Monday night on Raw to crowd a new WWE Champion, Punk invited The Master of the 619 to Chicago anytime that he wants a title opportunity.

Triple H tried to maintain his professional decorum. After pointing out that “a champion performs,” he informed Punk that “it is a new regime” in WWE, inviting Punk to “give [him] a call and maybe [they] could work something out.”

In the end, the self-exiled Punk left as swiftly as he emerged, brandishing the WWE Championship as he went.

The new head of WWE continued to address the situation after the disruption was over, commenting that he was astounded that the WWE Universe continued to cheer for Punk while Punk was refusing to perform for them. He pointed out that that was what true WWE Champions had been doing “day in and day out” throughout the history of WWE.

This public interruption came on the heels of the monumental events of Sunday, July 17 at Money in the Bank pay-per-view. There, The Second City Saint stunned the WWE Universe by defeating John Cena, exiting through the crowd and leaving the company without its most coveted title.

Late Friday night, WWE.com was granted permission by WWE executives to show footage of Punk's interruption, caught by WWE cameras during the Comic-Con Q & A.


http://vids.wwe.com/12670/wwecom-exclusive-uncut-footage-o

[iGotKittyPryde]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/punk-invaded-comic-con

CM Punk invaded Comic-Con, mocking Triple H and WWE
July 22, 2011

It seems that the de facto holder of the WWE Championship and former WWE Superstar CM Punk is not done poking a stick at his previous place of business

Thursday morning, during Mattel's WWE panel at San Diego Comic-Con 2011, the ex-WWE Superstar reemerged with the WWE Title still in his possession, strolling into a conference room where Triple H, Hall of Famer Bret “Him Man” Hart and Rey Mysterio were answering questions.

Punk promptly began to ridicule Triple H – the very Superstar and WWE executive who recently relieved Mr. McMahon of his leadership duties as WWE Chairman on Monday Night Raw.

Punk's mocking led to an intense verbal confrontation between Punk and Triple H. When Punk asked the subject of his scorn, “how’s life in Fantasy Land?” Triple H responded, “how’s the unemployment line?”

Addressing Rey Mysterio about WWE’s match this Monday night on Raw to crowd a new WWE Champion, Punk invited The Master of the 619 to Chicago anytime that he wants a title opportunity.

Triple H tried to maintain his professional decorum. After pointing out that “a champion performs,” he informed Punk that “it is a new regime” in WWE, inviting Punk to “give [him] a call and maybe [they] could work something out.”

In the end, the self-exiled Punk left as swiftly as he emerged, brandishing the WWE Championship as he went.

The new head of WWE continued to address the situation after the disruption was over, commenting that he was astounded that the WWE Universe continued to cheer for Punk while Punk was refusing to perform for them. He pointed out that that was what true WWE Champions had been doing “day in and day out” throughout the history of WWE.

This public interruption came on the heels of the monumental events of Sunday, July 17 at Money in the Bank pay-per-view. There, The Second City Saint stunned the WWE Universe by defeating John Cena, exiting through the crowd and leaving the company without its most coveted title.

Late Friday night, WWE.com was granted permission by WWE executives to show footage of Punk's interruption, caught by WWE cameras during the Comic-Con Q & A.


http://vids.wwe.com/12670/wwecom-exclusive-uncut-footage-o

I enjoy them clearly taking Hunter's side and completely ignoring the Stephanie line.

[ImYrWoodbury]

I enjoy them clearly taking Hunter's side and completely ignoring the Stephanie line.

And the Zack Ryder line :(

[Masculine Todd]

So, either Daniel Bryan somehow loses the case between now and April, or he gets a monster push and develops into a threat along the way.

The Briefcase shouldn't be something to win or lose. Doing so would relegate it to secondary title status (and yeah, I know, the Mr. Kennedy/Edge thing). The primary appeal of the briefcase is the idea that the holder will most likely win the title at an unknown date, or at the very least, gain entry into the main-event title mix at some point. There's a great deal of tension and the promise of someone new being elevated. If they rob the briefcase of its premise - that being the holder will be the one to cash-in - it'll no longer be a big deal when someone wins, especially someone from the midcard. We'll all be waiting for the day when, say, Kofi wins it, and they lose faith in his push, thus booking him to lose it to someone else.

[ImYrWoodbury]

The Briefcase shouldn't be something to win or lose. Doing so would relegate it to secondary title status (and yeah, I know, the Mr. Kennedy/Edge thing). The primary appeal of the briefcase is the idea that the holder will most likely win the title at an unknown date, or at the very least, gain entry into the main-event title mix at some point. There's a great deal of tension and the promise of someone new being elevated. If they rob the briefcase of its premise - that being the holder will be the one to cash-in - it'll no longer be a big deal when someone wins, especially someone from the midcard. We'll all be waiting for the day when, say, Kofi wins it, and they lose faith in his push, thus booking him to lose it to someone else.

I agree, and I'll also add that the only reason they had Kennedy put the briefcase (containing the contract) on the line against Edge (only to lose it) was because Kennedy was injured.

[ImYrWoodbury]

You know what finisher I miss?

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/JWoodzIII/CorVonPouncesSabu.gif

[Kirblar]

I agree, and I'll also add that the only reason they had Kennedy put the briefcase (containing the contract) on the line against Edge (only to lose it) was because Kennedy was injured.
It was Undertaker who was injured, wasn't it?

[somsta121383]

It was Undertaker who was injured, wasn't it?

Both Kennedy and Taker were injured. Edge won the briefcase because Kennedy was going to be out then he cashed in due to Undertaker's injury.

[Masculine Todd]

I agree, and I'll also add that the only reason they had Kennedy put the briefcase (containing the contract) on the line against Edge (only to lose it) was because Kennedy was injured.

Right, it was a decision based on necessity. That's the only reason a briefcase should be transferred from a holder to another wrestler. They should treat it with reverence (and really, the briefcase means more than any title save the WWE Title and, I guess, the World Heavyweight Championship).

[joeAR]

411's list of top 10 CM Punk moments

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/194313/The-Contentious-Ten-07.18.11:-CM-Punk-Career-Highlights.htm

[The Human Target]

The MitB briefcases are actually the only non-world titles that even matter a little bit.

[Bervda]

You know what finisher I miss?

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/JWoodzIII/CorVonPouncesSabu.gif

Poooooouuuuuuuuunce!

. . .

Period.

[Blake Sims]

Jeez Heath Slater is not good on the mic. I think it's mainly his voice.

[Brad N.]

Jeez Heath Slater is not good on the mic. I think it's mainly his voice.

The one man rock band might be one of the worst gimmick ideas ever.

[Blake Sims]

The one man rock band might be one of the worst gimmick ideas ever.

I still haven't figured out what that means exactly.

[Benel Germosen]

I still haven't figured out what that means exactly.

I mean, it is a phrase made out of words which all have individual meaning, it's just when put together they become meaningless.

[Blake Sims]

I mean, it is a phrase made out of words which all have individual meaning, it's just when put together they become meaningless.

:lol:

That reminds me of the line Lisa had in a Simpsons episode after seeing a sign for a "Yahoo Serious Festival".

[Briomega]

I still haven't figured out what that means exactly.

I thought it was supposed to be a riff on Jericho.

[ImYrWoodbury]

You know, like he's 4 rock stars in one.

[ImYrWoodbury]

http://twitter.com/#!/JimmyJacobsX/status/94951094257598464

@JimmyJacobsX
Jimmy Jacobs

Unreal. CM Punk cut a promo tonight at @aawpro in Chicago.

[Benel Germosen]

http://twitter.com/#!/JimmyJacobsX/status/94951094257598464

@JimmyJacobsX
Jimmy Jacobs

Unreal. CM Punk cut a promo tonight at @aawpro in Chicago.

Video or didn't happen

[ImYrWoodbury]

Video or didn't happen

He tweeted that like 2 minutes ago. I'm sure it'll surface eventually.

[ImYrWoodbury]

PROOF from Dave Prazak's Twitter!!!!!

http://twitpic.com/5uv08h

[ImYrWoodbury]

I gotta say, I thought they'd spread these out a lot more (like maybe 1 or 2 a month) but this is all really, really, really awesome.

[Gryphon]

Just checked twitter and I like samoa joe's response to steve austin.

[Greenville 90210]

I still haven't figured out what that means exactly.

It means he stinks, trashes hotel rooms, and has a drug problem.

[ImYrWoodbury]

it means he stinks, trashes hotel rooms, and has a drug problem.

x4

[joeAR]

PROOF from Dave Prazak's Twitter!!!!!

http://twitpic.com/5uv08h


Damn it. I really don't want tget my hopes up about Punk appearing at the ROH show

[Gryphon]

Damn it. I really don't want tget my hopes up about Punk appearing at the ROH show

Im also starting to believe he might.

[ImYrWoodbury]

Damn it. I really don't want tget my hopes up about Punk appearing at the ROH show

I think it's 50/50. Almost leaning towards No because it's their first TV taping and I think they want to distance themselves from WWE and show that they truly are an alternative and it wouldn't air until September 24 at the earliest. But if he's just there to put over their product, and it doesn't necessarily have to air on their TV.

Chicago's only like a 9 hour drive...

[Gryphon]

And then there are the rumours of a working agreement between wwe and roh...

[Briomega]

And then there are the rumours of a working agreement between wwe and roh...

Rumors again?

[Brad N.]

I think it's 50/50. Almost leaning towards No because it's their first TV taping and I think they want to distance themselves from WWE and show that they truly are an alternative and it wouldn't air until September 24 at the earliest. But if he's just there to put over their product, and it doesn't necessarily have to air on their TV.

Chicago's only like a 9 hour drive...

On the other hand what better way to kick off the first episode than to have a guest appearance from the WWE champ and ROH alum?

[Gryphon]

Rumors again?

Just rumours, nothing concrete.

[ImYrWoodbury]

On the other hand what better way to kick off the first episode than to have a guest appearance from the WWE champ and ROH alum?

Exactly! 50/50. I love it!

[somsta121383]

Just rumours, nothing concrete.

Are you British?

[Gryphon]

Are you British?

Canadian.

We use british spelling for some words and some british terms instead of american ones.

[somsta121383]

Canadian.

We use british spelling for some words and some british terms instead of american ones.

That was going to be my next guess... What part of Canada?

[Gryphon]

That was going to be my next guess... What part of Canada?

I live in Toronto.

[somsta121383]

I live in Toronto.

Cool. That's a beautiful city. Bret Hart is my favorite wrestler so I've always loved Canada :)

[Gryphon]

Cool. That's a beautiful city. Bret Hart is my favorite wrestler so I've always loved Canada :)

Its a very nice city, and its one of the smarkiest cities when it comes to wrestling. The royal rumble will be in toronto this january coming and I cant wait to go.

[Gryphon]

Plus several wrestlers are either from here or the surrounding cities and are billed as being from here, like edge christian and gail kim.

[somsta121383]

Plus several wrestlers are either from here or the surrounding cities and are billed as being from here, like edge christian and gail kim.

Not to mention the greatest diva in WWE history, Trish Stratus.

[Gryphon]

Yeah, I actually met her at a convention once.

[ImYrWoodbury]

And we have video: http://yfrog.com/nq4x5z

[Gryphon]

Joe responded on Twitter to Steve Austin with this

"@steveaustinBSR Much appreciated. *tips cap"

[Gryphon]

And we have video: http://yfrog.com/nq4x5z

Neat.

[Daniel K.]

And we have video: http://yfrog.com/nq4x5z

I love the internet.

[Benel Germosen]

Woot!

[Gryphon]

I love the internet.

Its really really great......For porn!

[SteveFlack]

Just watched the video. It doesn't really have anything to do with the WWE gimmick, it looks like Punk was just backstage because Colt was on the show and they decided to do something great for what looks like a great story (the other guy is Gregory Iron, a wrestler with cerebral palsy).

Though, I think any show that has Colt booked on it will be packed because people might think Punk will show up.

[Gryphon]

I just watched supserstars from thursday and Im wondering, why is zack ryder tagging with santino now?

[Briomega]

Joe responded on Twitter to Steve Austin with this

"@steveaustinBSR Much appreciated. *tips cap"

Wow.

[Masculine Todd]

lol but joe iz fat.

[Masculine Todd]

If, for whatever reason, Joe was hired, that dude would be a feral/primal, wild Samoan/Umaga 2.0 the instance he got to FCW.

Dude's got a great package and all Vince/co would see is a husky, Samoan savage.

Regardless, from everything he's said since retiring, and considering every star he's endorsed in that time, it's a shame Austin's not among the key personnel guiding the company.

[Gryphon]

If, for whatever reason, Joe was hired, that dude would be a feral/primal, wild Samoan/Umaga 2.0 the instance he got to FCW.

Dude's got a great package and all Vince/co would see is a husky, Samoan savage.

Regardless, from everything he's said since retiring, and considering every star he's endorsed in that time, it's a shame Austin's not among the key personnel guiding the company.

Austin has a good eye for talent. I wish he were in charge of talent development but He probably doesnt want to work full time with wwe anymore, and would rather do whatever it is he is doing now, like make shitty movies.

[Gryphon]

Ive been watching the collection of ECW videos my cousin gave me. Just saw the Jerry Lawler invasion. that was good.

[Greenville 90210]

I just watched supserstars from thursday and Im wondering, why is zack ryder tagging with santino now?

Comedy Rasslin'

[Gryphon]

Comedy Rasslin'

They kept saying that they were now contenders to the tag belts. Those belts are so worthless.

[Greenville 90210]

They kept saying that they were now contenders to the tag belts. Those belts are so worthless.

Give em to some heels and make the Usos chase em'

[ImYrWoodbury]

Give em to some heels and make the Usos chase em'

Aren't they already on heels? Aren't Otunga and McGuillicutty the tag champs?

[Greenville 90210]

Aren't they already on heels? Aren't Otunga and McGuillicutty the tag champs?

Oh yeah. I hate those dudes.

[ImYrWoodbury]

lol but joe iz fat.

Ouch, man. That hurts. I've had a hard time adjusting to straight nights. I'm tired all the time and I don't have the energy to workout like I used to. These extra 10 pounds are ruining my summer. #summerofchunk

[ImYrWoodbury]

And we have video: http://yfrog.com/nq4x5z

Also, big props to that guy for using the song from Ghostbusters II:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhoU7lINYxk

[Gryphon]

Give em to some heels and make the Usos chase em'

The usos had somethign good going between them and slater and gabriel before that got dropped due to gabriel's face turn.

There is no reason that the usos should not be tag champs. They work better as faces for some reason. As heels they were just ...there, but as faces they have more energy and can easily get a crowd behind them.

[Masculine Todd]

That introductory gimmick (that lasted all of two weeks) where the Usos rejected being typcasted and subverted the whole savage Samoan thing was pretty cool. The whole proposed "hip hop dynasty/Russel Simmons family" vibe could've been cool. They would've been easy to boo (elite, aristocratic 3rd gen wrestlers) and, when the time came, easy to cheer (youthful/cool fashion, articulate, fun spots like the double dropkick and their splashes, the dancing).

The Harts, in retrospect, were boring as fuck.

[Masculine Todd]

They could easily have a decent tag division. There's so many dudes just wallowing in houseshow/Superstars/dark match hell who could contribute/experience rejuvenation by being half of a duo. Get your big muscely guy/small flier team, get your 3rd gen team, pair a promising young guy with a relatively over veteran, couple two indomitable bruisers, and create a novelty team of surfers or rednecks or cowboys or goths or something. Boom.

Usos (3rd gen), Drew and Evan Bourne (big guy/little guy who, initially, are reluctant, mistrusting partners who team out of mutual enemies, but grow a mutual respect for one another), maybe Regal and Baretta (midcard veteran who can talk with a promising young dude), Chris Masters and Tyler Reks (two hulking monsters), Husky and [some repurposed dude] (gimmick-oriented cowboy/brawling redneck team), Koslov and Santino (novelty comedy duo).

Something like that.

[ImYrWoodbury]

I'd also throw in some reunited tag teams, like instead of Miz jobbing to Alex Riley why not reteam him with Morrison?

[Masculine Todd]

Because Miz is, like, one of four guys over enough to conceivably put a WWE Title on.

[ImYrWoodbury]

Because Miz is, like, one of four guys over enough to conceivably put a WWE Title on.

5. Alex Riley beat Miz. He's in the discussion now.

I could try to explain how I would've booked Miz after his feud with Cena, but it's based on "IF WWE took it's tag division seriously" and "IF wins & losses mattered" and those are two pretty big IFs.

[Gryphon]

They could easily have a decent tag division. There's so many dudes just wallowing in houseshow/Superstars/dark match hell who could contribute/experience rejuvenation by being half of a duo. Get your big muscely guy/small flier team, get your 3rd gen team, pair a promising young guy with a relatively over veteran, couple two indomitable bruisers, and create a novelty team of surfers or rednecks or cowboys or goths or something. Boom.

Usos (3rd gen), Drew and Evan Bourne (big guy/little guy who, initially, are reluctant, mistrusting partners who team out of mutual enemies, but grow a mutual respect for one another), maybe Regal and Baretta (midcard veteran who can talk with a promising young dude), Chris Masters and Tyler Reks (two hulking monsters), Husky and [some repurposed dude] (gimmick-oriented cowboy/brawling redneck team), Koslov and Santino (novelty comedy duo).

Something like that.

The major broskis as well.
And the luchador tag team in fcw could be brought up.

[Gryphon]

5. Alex Riley beat Miz. He's in the discussion now.

I could try to explain how I would've booked Miz after his feud with Cena, but it's based on "IF WWE took it's tag division seriously" and "IF wins & losses mattered" and those are two pretty big IFs.

Its still too early to put the belt on riley.

[Masculine Todd]

Yeah, but wins and loses don't really matter, unless they happen with great frequency; Miz is already back to title contention, having beaten two dudes in one night and advancing to a WWE Title match tomorrow against the most over face who isn't Cena or Orton.

If they put the belt on Riley right now, at his current level of overness and character development, he'd flop. It's essentially Cena, Randy, Miz and Rey. Christian (in this current incarnation) couldn't carry a brand, nor could Riley.

I don't know. Morrison's probably the only prospective babyface who's at the level of fan acceptance, and has the spots and precedence to potentially be a ratings/business stabilizing (note: probably not anything above 'stabilizing,' if that) champion, and even that would take a bit of work.

[Masculine Todd]

The major broskis as well.
And the luchador tag team in fcw could be brought up.

Nah. The non-Zack Ryder Edgehead's shown nothing. He's bland. Ryder has too much personality to be bogged down by a boring dude, unless that boring dude can get over in the ring (and from every indicator, not-Ryder isn't that guy).

[ImYrWoodbury]

Its still too early to put the belt on riley.

I was joking. It was kinda part of the "IF wins and losses mattered" caveat. If you beat the guy who was just champ, you should be in the picture.

[Gryphon]

I was joking. It was kinda part of the "IF wins and losses mattered" caveat. If you beat the guy who was just champ, you should be in the picture.

My mistake then.

[Gryphon]

I am wondering something else now. If wwe wants a new luchador who can replace rey once he retires why not the luchador known as incognito? He has good moves, can speak english and cut promos, doesnt botch, and one other thing..........He has been languishing in FCW under the name hunico for over 2 years at least now. Its time to bring him up to the main roster.

[ImYrWoodbury]

I just hate the whole mentality of, "We'll job out Miz to Riley, but to make it up to him we'll give him a title shot (maybe even put the belt on him)." It just devalues the title so much, the very title they're hoping will give credibility to the guy they just jobber out for the past few months.

[Gryphon]

Most belts have been devalued a lot latley.

[Gryphon]

The us title and intercontinental titles dont mean much. The divas title is on kelly kelly and not someone like gail, beth, or nattie. The wwe wouldnt give christian a clean win over orton for the whc and had to give it to him via stipulation........

[Gryphon]

I just hate the whole mentality of, "We'll job out Miz to Riley, but to make it up to him we'll give him a title shot (maybe even put the belt on him)." It just devalues the title so much, the very title they're hoping will give credibility to the guy they just jobber out for the past few months.

Plus Riley is still very green and sloppy in the ring.

[Gryphon]

Nah. The non-Zack Ryder Edgehead's shown nothing. He's bland. Ryder has too much personality to be bogged down by a boring dude, unless that boring dude can get over in the ring (and from every indicator, not-Ryder isn't that guy).

He hasnt really been given a chance. They were tag champions before.

[Masculine Todd]

Instead of hiring a luchador, they could just put a mask on that debryielsan guy and finally make him interesting!

[Masculine Todd]

They were tag champions before.

And incidentally, were boring as hell.

[Gryphon]

Instead of hiring a luchador, they could just put a mask on that debryielsan guy and finally make him interesting!

The point is they have good luchadors but arent doing anything with them.

Its also time to bring richie steamboat and seth rollins up to the main roster.

[Gryphon]

And incidentally, were boring as hell.

I confess, I wasnt watching at the time.

[ImYrWoodbury]

Instead of hiring a luchador, they could just put a mask on that debryielsan guy and finally make him interesting!

They were gonna do that with Low-Ki, weren't they?

[ImYrWoodbury]

And incidentally, were boring as hell.

Any time your gimmick is "We both wanna be like Edge, but we're not as good" you're pretty much doomed.

[Gryphon]

They were gonna do that with Low-Ki, weren't they?
Then he got hurt before they could.

[somsta121383]

Any time your gimmick is "We both wanna be like Edge, but we're not as good" you're pretty much doomed.

Hasn't that been Christian's whole career?

[Gryphon]

Hasn't that been Christian's whole career?

To be fair to cage, he actually was pretty good on his own in TNA. The christian cage era was the only time I liked tna.

[Masculine Todd]

They were gonna do that with Low-Ki, weren't they?

Yeah, he was gonna be 'Evil Rey,' and by 'Evil Rey,' they mean 'Not Crippled Rey.'


Any time your gimmick is "We both wanna be like Edge, but we're not as good" you're pretty much doomed.

Yeah, but when has that dude ever done anything to emote or whatever? Take Trent Baretta, for the sake of argument. That dude's never been given a shot, and he's merely enhancement talent. However, he's developed some entertaining spots to generate fan reaction, as part of the Dudebusters, he had that retarded arm thing, he flashes a cocky smile, etc. Even if buried beneath the ton of sludge that was "Edge Acolyte," you can show some fire on comebacks or have a few mannerisms that hint at some burgeoning charisma/personality.

Dude never showed it. It was so glaringly obvious when he had that two week dalliance with Ryder on Superstars a few months back. One guy was entertaining, even without getting promo time, and the other was dead weight.

[ImYrWoodbury]

Hasn't that been Christian's whole career?

Yeah, but he threw tantrums, wore sleeveless mesh shirts and cut his hair to set himself apart.

[Ryan_ZOOM_Turner]

Are you British?

Fleetwood Mac fan.

[Masculine Todd]

Hasn't that been Christian's whole career?

Christian surpassed Edge during that '04-'05 run as Captain Charisma. Dude had a distinctive, entertaining gimmick. Edge was the most boring dude to get a consistent upper-midcard push prior to that mid-'05 pairing with Lita, the feud with Matt and the development of the Rated-R Superstar character.

[ImYrWoodbury]

Yeah, he was gonna be 'Evil Rey,' and by 'Evil Rey,' they mean 'Not Crippled Rey.'



They forgot to tell Low-Ki that last part.

[ImYrWoodbury]

Yeah Todd, Baretta would be a much better partner for Ryder than Hawkins. Good call.

[somsta121383]

Christian surpassed Edge during that '04-'05 run as Captain Charisma. Dude had a distinctive, entertaining gimmick. Edge was the most boring dude to get a consistent upper-midcard push prior to that mid-'05 pairing with Lita, the feud with Matt and the development of the Rated-R Superstar character.

Oh I agree. I'd take Christian over Edge any day of the week. I just think that he's always been viewed as 'not Edge' in WWE.

[Masculine Todd]

I feel as if fans often overlook how incredibly dull that period between, say, the early '03 neck injury and the Matt Hardy feud in '05 was for Edge. He was such a goony dude, and they gave him the Billy Gunn "biannual upper-midcard push" with much greater frequency. Even worse, he had that cloying, generic "lame joke" face gimmick. It was this weird hybrid of 'cool dude' and 'proto-current Cena.'

He'd throw out hackneyed 'chill bro' lines, jaunt down to the ring with shitty Rob Zombie theme music and play up this pseudo-rave kid shtick, and it was so contrived and boring. I mean, yeah, he showed something that warranted the constant attempts to make him a star, but it wasn't until '05 that it finally clicked, and prior to that, Christian was far more watchable/bankable.

[Gryphon]

Yeah Todd, Baretta would be a much better partner for Ryder than Hawkins. Good call.
Trent barreta is one reason why the e needs a cruiserweight division.

[Masculine Todd]

All of this is a roundabout way of saying 'ZEKE 4 all tag teems 'ZEKE 4 champeon! Nu-attitude area!

[Gryphon]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/WWE_Divas_Work_Comic-Con_Linda_McMahon_Files_FEC_Report_Lawler.html


Linda McMahon filed a Federal Elections Commission report on July 15th that was related to her 2010 Senate campaign. According to the filing, Linda still has a little more than $112,000 in cash on hand from the unsuccessful $50 million 2010 Senate bid. She is also listing a $500,000 outstanding debt - money she owes to herself.

[Masculine Todd]

Yeah Todd, Baretta would be a much better partner for Ryder than Hawkins. Good call.

Like, I'm not even suggesting that, I'm just saying, dudes in similar situations have been able to merit such goodwill from fans who want to see better for them. Edgehead Hawkinston never did that. Ryder probably shouldn't be in a tag team. His shtick would eclipse whoever else was paired with him.

[Masculine Todd]

lynda shud manage hawkens n giv him personalite


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFRrlDuJ948

[Masculine Todd]

Best Titantron of all time:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5jIV3sKApQ&feature=related

u think she dtf? y/n/she still got dat older puss swag

[somsta121383]

Remember when Linda kicked old good Jr in teh ballz? That was hawt, Todd!

[Masculine Todd]

do u think jim raws wuz relly hert? y/n/jrjrjrjrjrjrjr

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Really don't mind the song, but man, this Titantron is abysmal. I had completely forgotten about it..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU3ewfxqOjs

[Adrian B AWESOME]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWiZpANbvT0&feature=related

Trying to figure out what this video wants me to notice...

[ImYrWoodbury]

Come on guys:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6_orJVgiFY

[Greenville 90210]

Its still too early to put the belt on riley.

I wouldn't give Riley the Internet belt. Maybe a tag run. After his feud with Miz, they're going to have to work very hard to keep him hot. He's a snooze as a face.

[Masculine Todd]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5110/lastfmf.jpg

[Masculine Todd]

Riley should become a nerd. SWERVE!

[ImYrWoodbury]

The Attitude Era!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inBgJI4jSvQ

[Greenville 90210]

Riley should lead the new Mean Street Posse.

[Masculine Todd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWiZpANbvT0&feature=related

Trying to figure out what this video wants me to notice...

Wasn't she a paramedic at first? I don't know.

[Gryphon]

I wouldn't give Riley the Internet belt. Maybe a tag run. After his feud with Miz, they're going to have to work very hard to keep him hot. He's a snooze as a face.

he is also pretty sloppy in the ring. Still very green.

[ImYrWoodbury]

Really don't mind the song, but man, this Titantron is abysmal. I had completely forgotten about it..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU3ewfxqOjs

I want screen caps of every single second of that video. And GIFs of everytime Cena moves his head left to right and back.

[Masculine Todd]

The Attitude Era!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inBgJI4jSvQ

Remember when they tried to push this dude for, like, a year?

[ImYrWoodbury]

Wasn't she a paramedic at first? I don't know.

Oh, yeah. THAT's who she was. Had no idea who that was.

[Masculine Todd]

When I was a kid, I always wondered why Val's titantron would have random clips of nails being drilled and shooting geysers interspersed with action sequences of Venis.

I was a pretty dumb kid.

[Gryphon]

Remember when they tried to push this dude for, like, a year?

Does he still work for them behind the scenes?

[Gryphon]

I remember val's feud with Kai en tai

"I choppy choppy you pee pee!"

ah racism and stereotypes in wrestling. It never gets old.

[Masculine Todd]

I don't know, but the pornstar gimmick definitely had a ceiling - that being "opener of SummerSlam for the European Title." I mean, yeah, I get it, Russo was a big player then, and it was the Attitude Era, but you can't have longevity with a male pornstar wrestler. And really, shit was pretty bland.

In summer '00, they gave him plain white tights, had him cut his hair, eliminated the towel, gave him Trish as a manager and put the IC Title on him under the premise that, without the porn and women on his mind, a focused Val could totally beat Rikishi in midcard matches and be a success. He even had a club remix of his music! Shit was serious! Then he became a member of RTC, and for some reason, he was a chief of Raw.

Val Venis: another midcard chud.

[Gryphon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HESwCwUhO1E&feature=related

WARNING CONTAINS NUDITY!!

[Masculine Todd]

Techno Remix:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Lsz7xazvI
NEXT WRLD CHAMPEIN

[ImYrWoodbury]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/daniel-bryan-climb-to-glory-part-1

Looks like they're actually giving Daniel Bryan a solid push. I like him using the guillotine the past few weeks on Smackdown, but I hope it's not replacing the LeBell Lock. I think it'd be cool if they gave him like 4 or 5 submission finishers.

[Gryphon]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/daniel-bryan-climb-to-glory-part-1

Looks like they're actually giving Daniel Bryan a solid push. I like him using the guillotine the past few weeks on Smackdown, but I hope it's not replacing the LeBell Lock. I think it'd be cool if they gave him like 4 or 5 submission finishers.

On twitter he said he was working on more submission moves.

[Gryphon]

Its gonna be cool if he does cash in at Mania.

[Greenville 90210]

Remember when they tried to push this dude for, like, a year?

More than that. I really think they missed the boat on Sean Morely as a performer/wrestler. Val Venis was a good gimmick for the time, I guess, but once they dropped it they should have never gone back.

[ImYrWoodbury]

Remember when I thought they were going somewhere with this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qktVY3FTAvk

I was there live for that episode of NXT. I thought it was gonna be the first time I'd get to see him wrestle live. Not only did he not wrestle, but he got eliminated. But I marked out so hard when he said his name. TRIVIA: The last time WWE was in Buffalo was for Raw earlier this year in February. I thought I was gonna get to see him wrestle, but he got jumped by The Miz before his match started and didn't wrestle, again.

And here's that match with Batista that he mentioned in that promo (featuring the classic Miz "Doctor's Note"):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4WSRlDlTTQ&feature=relmfu

[Greenville 90210]

I remember val's feud with Kai en tai

"I choppy choppy you pee pee!"

ah racism and stereotypes in wrestling. It never gets old.

Remember Mrs. Yamaguchi San?

[ImYrWoodbury]

On twitter he said he was working on more submission moves.

Yeah, I saw that. But I took that to mean he was just doing his normal training at Extreme Couture, I didn't know he was gonna win with a guillotine.

[Gryphon]

Remember Mrs. Yamaguchi San?

Whatever happened to her?

[Gryphon]

Yeah, I saw that. But I took that to mean he was just doing his normal training at Extreme Couture, I didn't know he was gonna win with a guillotine.

Im eager to see if he uses any more new moves.

[Greenville 90210]

I've been on vacation the past week so I missed Smackdown. Worth watching? I might watch it on my phone during the ride home but I think my girlfriend might kill me.

[Gryphon]

It had a lot more in ring action than previous weeks.

That said there were funny mishaps.

[joeAR]

Remember when I thought they were going somewhere with this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qktVY3FTAvk

I was there live for that episode of NXT. I thought it was gonna be the first time I'd get to see him wrestle live. Not only did he not wrestle, but he got eliminated. But I marked out so hard when he said his name. TRIVIA: The last time WWE was in Buffalo was for Raw earlier this year in February. I thought I was gonna get to see him wrestle, but he got jumped by The Miz before his match started and didn't wrestle, again.

And here's that match with Batista that he mentioned in that promo (featuring the classic Miz "Doctor's Note"):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4WSRlDlTTQ&feature=relmfu


I was actually thinking about that today. Ah wrestling, let's start something but let's not bother finishing it.

[joeAR]

I loved Right To Censor. I think it was because I wasn't that big of a fan of the WWF in 99.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oEOysgO02E

[Gryphon]

When was the last time wwe carried something through to fruition?

[somsta121383]

When was the last time wwe carried something through to fruition?

I didn't watch it, but I heard Smackdown filled the full two hour timeslot on Friday.

[Gryphon]

I didn't watch it, but I heard Smackdown filled the full two hour timeslot on Friday.

They are now padding it with old matches. How about...Oh I dont know....Putting more wrestlers on at that time?

[UltimateFactor]

The Cattle Mutilation should be his heel finisher. :lol:

[Blake Sims]

Yeah I don't like how they put recaps of RAW on Smackdown. It's a pointless waste of time.

[Gryphon]

Yeah I don't like how they put recaps of RAW on Smackdown. It's a pointless waste of time.

No. I mean they are putting old matches from a few years ago. Calling them "Matches from the vault". This week it was gail kim vs Michelle Mctaker.

[Foolish Mortal]

It really looks to me they're making a concerted effort to kill SmackDown.

[Blake Sims]

No. I mean they are putting old matches from a few years ago. Calling them "Matches from the vault". This week it was gail kim vs Michelle Mctaker.

Ohhhh those are too.

[Gryphon]

Ohhhh those are too.

Its time that can be used for more matches that wont need to be relegated to superstars.

[Gryphon]

It really looks to me they're making a concerted effort to kill SmackDown.

I Agree. It looks that way sometimes.

[Gryphon]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/239499-update-sin-cara-removed-from-summerslam-poster-more


Several readers have sent in word that currently suspended WWE Smackdown star Sin Cara has had his photo removed from the official WWE SummerSlam poster. His likeness has been replaced by R-Truth.

In an update on his contractual status with the company, The Wrestling Observer is reporting that the creative team was told to "cut bait on" Cara, and further told not to invest much thought in him moving forwards. No word yet on whether or not Cara has officially been released from WWE.

[Greenville 90210]

The Cattle Mutilation should be his heel finisher. :lol:

I remember him using it in NXT and Mathews called it by name and Cole saying "what?!?" and then something stupid.

[UltimateFactor]

It looks like Daniel Bryan is kind of getting the Push Sin Cara was supposed to get :lol:

[Foolish Mortal]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/239499-update-sin-cara-removed-from-summerslam-poster-more
http://i53.tinypic.com/zurvk6.jpg

[joeAR]

It looks like Daniel Bryan is kind of getting the Push Sin Cara was supposed to get :lol:


Upgrade!

[Briomega]

It looks like Daniel Bryan is kind of getting the Push Sin Cara was supposed to get :lol:

I hope they don't start lighting his matches with gold lamps.

[Benel Germosen]

I hope they don't start lighting his matches with gold lamps.

He'll come out to the ring wearing sparklers.

[Briomega]

He'll come out to the ring wearing sparklers.

The Fabulous Dragon!

[Gryphon]

Or ties being thrown.

[Daniel K.]

The Fabulous Dragon!

They'll just put a mask on him and call him "The Mexican Dragon". No one will notice he's not Mexican, right?

[Briomega]

They'll just put a mask on him and call him "The Mexican Dragon". No one will notice he's not Mexican, right?

Todd already thinks he is.

[Masculine Todd]

No. I mean they are putting old matches from a few years ago. Calling them "Matches from the vault". This week it was gail kim vs Michelle Mctaker.

They only include those in the online showing, and they've done that for years.

[Masculine Todd]

Todd already thinks he is.

He does the flips and he's a little guy, so obviously, he's either Mexican or Japanese.

[Gryphon]

They only include those in the online showing, and they've done that for years.

Ive never seen them before on youtube.

[somsta121383]

They only include those in the online showing, and they've done that for years.

Shhh! There's no place for knowledgeable comments in this thread!

[Gryphon]

Shhh! There's no place for knowledgeable comments in this thread!

I honestly have never seen them before in the youtube uploads.

[Blake Sims]

They only include those in the online showing, and they've done that for years.

News to me!

[Masculine Todd]

Ive never seen them before on youtube.

Don't know what to tell you. I started watching Smackdown on Hulu in '09 and Youtube last year. Every episode I've seen included a "From the Vault" segment. This is done primarily to pad out the timecount due to the lack of commercials.

[joeAR]

Don't know what to tell you. I started watching Smackdown on Hulu in '09 and Youtube last year. Every episode I've seen included a "From the Vault" segment. This is done primarily to pad out the timecount due to the lack of commercials.


Todd: He knows all so fuck off

[XXXenophile]

When I was a kid, I always wondered why Val's titantron would have random clips of nails being drilled and shooting geysers interspersed with action sequences of Venis.

I was a pretty dumb kid.

I remember when they hired Jenna Jameson to come in to film with him one of his promos when they were really going with the "former porn star turned wrestler" angle.

[HoneyDippinDan]

OMFG, The Best of WCW Nitro is on Netflix.

[Gryphon]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/New_Lesnar_WWE_DVD_Profile_Update_on_Hero-Castagnoli_in_WWE_More.html



The latest on ROH stars Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli coming to WWE is that they will be bypassing developmental and coming straight to the main roster.

[Gryphon]

Don't know what to tell you. I started watching Smackdown on Hulu in '09 and Youtube last year. Every episode I've seen included a "From the Vault" segment. This is done primarily to pad out the timecount due to the lack of commercials.

That is really odd then. I wonder where the uploader got the episode from.

[Gryphon]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/tna/TNA_Reportedly_Signs_Shiima_Xion_Tara_Comments_On_ Tag_Team_Title_Victory.html

TNA Wrestling has reportedly signed Shiima Xion, who participated in the Four-way X Division Showcase tournament final at Destination X. He says he will be appearing on television soon as Zema Ion.

[Gryphon]

From Twitter

9 hours ago » ZackRyder Zack Ryder
The best shirt since @steveaustinBSR's AUSTIN 3:16 shirt will be on sale for the first time tonight at Raw! WWWYKI


steveaustinBSR
@ZackRyder you can't be serious, bro...send me an XL and a XXL when they come out...after all...we're Broski's? Right? Take care...SYH...

[joeAR]

You can't limit all of this to one post?

[Gryphon]

Most were a while apart except the last two.

The 2nd last one I found on lords of pain then posted it.

The last one I went to twitter to see if Ryder would say anything about his being advertised for tonight's raw and then saw that.


But what do you think about the KOW news?

[DAVE]

Most were a while apart except the last two.

The 2nd last one I found on lords of pain then posted it.

The last one I went to twitter to see if Ryder would say anything about his being advertised for tonight's raw and then saw that.


But what do you think about the KOW news?
Then what happened?

[Gryphon]

Then what happened?

I was about to say something now to get you angry but then I realized it is best not to say things to make others angry.

[DAVE]

I was about to say something now to get you angry but then I realized it is best not to say things to make others angry.

And then what happened?

[somsta121383]

I thought you had said you wouldn't spam this thread with all your annoying news links.

[Gryphon]

I thought you had said you wouldn't spam this thread with all your annoying news links.

Two links, one was for JoeAR ( since he is a roh fan) and the other I thought was interesting after destination x.

The twitter exchange just looked awesome so I posted it directly pasting it from twiter.

[joeAR]

Two links, one was for JoeAR ( since he is a roh fan) and the other I thought was interesting after destination x.

The twitter exchange just looked awesome so I posted it directly pasting it from twiter.


You can edit it and put them all in one post. Just saying.

If true i'm obviously happy for the Kings of Wrestling but it all depends on how they're used in the WWE. If they are in fact going to the WWE.

[Gryphon]

You can edit it and put them all in one post. Just saying.

If true i'm obviously happy for the Kings of Wrestling but it all depends on how they're used in the WWE. If they are in fact going to the WWE.

If they stay a tag team, the only people they can feud with are the nexus, the usos, koslov and santino and thats it. The E really could use a tag division.


Oh and as an aside, the rock confirmed he will be at survivor series.

[usagi20]

Are they bringing back Survivor Series? Or does the Rock not know that WWE discontinued Survivor Series?

[Greenville 90210]

I thought you had said you wouldn't spam this thread with all your annoying news links.

I'm not annoyed by his links. I'm on a phone and this is how I get news. We can ignore it or comment on it.

Not a big deal.

[Mark4myself]

From Twitter

9 hours ago » ZackRyder Zack Ryder
The best shirt since @steveaustinBSR's AUSTIN 3:16 shirt will be on sale for the first time tonight at Raw! WWWYKI


steveaustinBSR
@ZackRyder you can't be serious, bro...send me an XL and a XXL when they come out...after all...we're Broski's? Right? Take care...SYH...

Nice exchange! Curious to see what the T looks like. Nice to know Stone Cold is a Broski!

[SteveFlack]

Nice exchange! Curious to see what the T looks like. Nice to know Stone Cold is a Broski!

http://www.wweshop.com/item/zack-ryder-broski-authentic-t-shirt/ZackRyder/01-14478

[somsta121383]

I'm not annoyed by his links. I'm on a phone and this is how I get news. We can ignore it or comment on it.

Not a big deal.

Point well taken.

[Mark4myself]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/tna/TNA_Reportedly_Signs_Shiima_Xion_Tara_Comments_On_ Tag_Team_Title_Victory.html

TNA Wrestling has reportedly signed Shiima Xion, who participated in the Four-way X Division Showcase tournament final at Destination X. He says he will be appearing on television soon as Zema Ion.

I wasn't overly impressed with him to be honest. Some great tools but he was green in my opinion. And I wanted root for him as he was Filipino.

[Weasel21385]

If they stay a tag team, the only people they can feud with are the nexus, the usos, koslov and santino and thats it. The E really could use a tag division.


Oh and as an aside, the rock confirmed he will be at survivor series.

I think you meant SummerSlam.

[Mark4myself]

http://www.wweshop.com/item/zack-ryder-broski-authentic-t-shirt/ZackRyder/01-14478

Curious no more ;-)

[Mark4myself]

I'm not annoyed by his links. I'm on a phone and this is how I get news. We can ignore it or comment on it.

Not a big deal.

I don't get all the heaping on Gryphon. Its gone from pick on the new guy into out and out bullying at times. He's a big fan and as such shares alot and has millions of questions. That's part of why we're here is to discuss wrestling together. I find it more annoying to weed through the twenty jabs at Gryphon then a news link that isn't of interest to me.

[somsta121383]

I think that Survivor Series was put back on the schedule.

[SteveFlack]

I wasn't overly impressed with him to be honest. Some great tools but he was green in my opinion. And I wanted root for him as he was Filipino.

Don't worry about it, I doubt you'll ever see him on TV.

[Greenville 90210]

http://www.wweshop.com/item/zack-ryder-broski-authentic-t-shirt/ZackRyder/01-14478

I wish it wasn't black. Cool shirt though.

WWWYKI

[Greenville 90210]

I wasn't overly impressed with him to be honest. Some great tools but he was green in my opinion. And I wanted root for him as he was Filipino.

Yeah, he was okay but I would have rather Evans or Lowki but I'm sure they cost more.

[Greenville 90210]

I don't get all the heaping on Gryphon. Its gone from pick on the new guy into out and out bullying at times. He's a big fan and as such shares alot and has millions of questions. That's part of why we're here is to discuss wrestling together. I find it more annoying to weed through the twenty jabs at Gryphon then a news link that isn't of interest to me.

Exactly. I skip over more Todd posts than Griffendor posts.

but thas onlee win he tipes lyk diss. :)

[Gryphon]

I wasn't overly impressed with him to be honest. Some great tools but he was green in my opinion. And I wanted root for him as he was Filipino.
He was really annoying.

[Gryphon]

I think you meant SummerSlam.

Here was his tweet.

"Cena fans: pls stop tweeting me to stop being "mean" to John. If u think I'm mean now, just wait til Survivor Series in NYC."

[Drew]

I wonder how many people Cyberbully Gryphon has put upon the ignored list.

[Gryphon]

No one is on my ignore list. Nada, zilch. Nobody.

If you have something to say, then say it. I wont put anyone on ignore.

[Mark4myself]

Do we never learn from Emily Osment TV movies? Cyber bullying is WRONG people.....

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Does anyone want to read my Black Scorpion Redux 2011 fantasy booking?!

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

SummerFest

[Drew]

SummerFest

Do NOT remind me of the Piven!

[Gryphon]

WWE has announced that Cee Lo Green will be performing at summerslam.

[SteveFlack]

WWE has announced that Cee Lo Green will be performing at summerslam.

It's a whole new regime!

[Daniel K.]

I think that Survivor Series was put back on the schedule.

As it should be. I really don't understand why Vince seems to hate the Survivor Series concept. If you build up several individuals or teams with grievances against each other and put them together under a logical team captain (usually a main eventer) you can orchestrate a nice holdover until a feud ending one on one match.

A good example of this was the 2006 Survivor Series with DX, CM Punk and the Hardys vs Rated RKO, Gregory Helms, Johnny Nitro and Mike Knox. DX was feuding with Rated RKO at the time and both teams consisted of main event talent and filled out the team captain slot well. The Hardys both had singles feuds going at the time and had just begun teaming again, so seeing them together was an attraction and logically brought Helms and Nitro into the match. CM Punk was in ECW in the midst of his undefeated streak at the time and feuding with Mike Knox, which brought Knox into the match as well as allowed CM Punk to fill the role of the young, upstart babyface. At the end of this match all the faces got a good rub (I believe they were the only team to not lose a man in SS history) and all the feuds continued on, with this match adding more fuel to the fire. Now there have certainly been way better Survivor Series matches, but this one illustrates how it's really not very hard to put together at least a few traditional Survivor Series matchups as opposed to the one token match we've received in recent years.

[Gryphon]

Getting rid of bragging rights the month before was a good idea.

[somsta121383]

WWE has announced that Cee Lo Green will be performing at summerslam.

I think you mean D Lo Brown.

[somsta121383]

Do NOT remind me of the Piven!

The true golden age era of World Wrestling Entertainment.

[Gryphon]

I think you mean D Lo Brown.

Nope, the grammy award winning musician.

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

he'll probly sing fuck you, right?

[somsta121383]

Nope, the grammy award winning musician.

No bro, you're thinking of Double J. D Lo is a former European champion. Look it up on Wikipedia.

[Gryphon]

BTW, Ive been trying to find something out. Vader's son signed with WWE a while back. Has he debuted in FCW yet? and if so Whats his FCW name? Ive been trying to find out but havent been able to.

[Gryphon]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Ryder_Impersonates_The_Ultimate_Warrior_Benoit_s_D ad_Suing_WWE_More.html


At the WWE RAW event last night, Dolph Ziggler ended up taking finishing moves from most of the RAW babyfaces including Beth Phoenix and John Cena. The interesting part came when Zack Ryder impersonated The Ultimate Warrior and did a big splash. Ryder was decked out in Warrior tights and even had the Warrior tassels on.

- Chris Benoit's father Mike Benoit told Irv Muchnick at concussioninc.net that after following the NFL concussion lawsuit that is going on, he is considering organizing a class action lawsuit against WWE.


http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/WWE_Superstar_Expected_to_Return_Soon_Interviews_w ith_Kane_Kelly_Kelly.html


WWE Superstar Brodus Clay is expected to return to TV soon as he recently started back up in FCW. Clay had been away filming WWE Studios' next horror movie called No One Lives, which was filmed in New Orleans.

WWE creative has been discussing ideas for Clay's return. Clay was acting as Alberto Del Rio's bodyguard before he left and is still listed on the SmackDown roster.

[ImYrWoodbury]

He does the flips and he's a little guy, so obviously, he's either Mexican or Japanese.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/JWoodzIII/0016-16_WM27_Photo_05.jpg

[Drew]

No bro, you're thinking of Double J. D Lo is a former European champion. Look it up on Wikipedia.

The First Eurocontinental Champion!

[Drew]

BTW, Ive been trying to find something out. Vader's son signed with WWE a while back. Has he debuted in FCW yet? and if so Whats his FCW name? Ive been trying to find out but havent been able to.

Ironically, he's Tyler Black.

[Gryphon]

WWE announced this afternoon that Rey Mysterio vs. The Miz to crown a new WWE Champion will kick off tonight's RAW from Hampton, Virginia.

WWE is promising that a new champion will be crowned on tonight's show, the first under Triple H's rule.

[usagi20]

"...a new champion will be crowned..." Why does that phrase not fill me with confidence?

[Kirblar]

"...a new champion will be crowned..." Why does that phrase not fill me with confidence?
Del Rio's obv. cashing in on Rey. :lol:

[Foolish Mortal]

WWE has announced that Cee Lo Green will be performing at summerslam.
I'd imagine so since they're using his song 'Bright Lights, Bigger City' as the SummerSlam theme song.

[somsta121383]

The First Eurocontinental Champion!

"But he doesn't count" - Eurocontinental champion Kurt Angle

[ImYrWoodbury]

Bryan Danielson is using SOCIAL MEDIA, and he's out to get you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Vtwdozi-Q&sns=em


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[usagi20]

Bryan Danielson is using SOCIAL MEDIA, and he's out to get you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Vtwdozi-Q&sns=em


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Daniel Bryan buries people! 8)

[SteveFlack]

Bryan Danielson is using SOCIAL MEDIA, and he's out to get you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Vtwdozi-Q&sns=em


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He really needs to learn to turn the iPhone around.

Also, he doesn't know his name is Daniel Bryan.

[Daniel K.]

Bryan Danielson is using SOCIAL MEDIA, and he's out to get you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Vtwdozi-Q&sns=em


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That was fantastic. :lol:

[Kirblar]

Watching that video the only thing that came to mind was that....
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/04/article-2011051-0CDC0F0900000578-739_634x894.jpg

Even a monkey takes better self-pics than Bryan Danielson!

[Benel Germosen]

Watching that video the only thing that came to mind was that....
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/04/article-2011051-0CDC0F0900000578-739_634x894.jpg

Even a monkey takes better self-pics than Bryan Danielson!

Look, vegans don't photographs well...everyone knows this. It's all the photosynthesis.

[Masculine Todd]

Exactly. I skip over more Todd posts than Griffendor posts.

but thas onlee win he tipes lyk diss. :)

But those are my best posts, Scotland. It's like, c'mon, you know?

[Gryphon]

This was a funny piece of news I found

WWE Intercontinental Champion Ezekiel Jackson reportedly had trouble getting into the arena before the SmackDown live event in White Plains, NY this past weekend.

Zeke apparently was denied entry by the arena security because they did not recognize him as one of the WWE Superstars. After pleading his case and still not allowed in, Zeke phoned one of the WWE agents, who came down and let him in.

[Masculine Todd]

As it should be. I really don't understand why Vince seems to hate the Survivor Series concept. If you build up several individuals or teams with grievances against each other and put them together under a logical team captain (usually a main eventer) you can orchestrate a nice holdover until a feud ending one on one match.

A good example of this was the 2006 Survivor Series with DX, CM Punk and the Hardys vs Rated RKO, Gregory Helms, Johnny Nitro and Mike Knox. DX was feuding with Rated RKO at the time and both teams consisted of main event talent and filled out the team captain slot well. The Hardys both had singles feuds going at the time and had just begun teaming again, so seeing them together was an attraction and logically brought Helms and Nitro into the match. CM Punk was in ECW in the midst of his undefeated streak at the time and feuding with Mike Knox, which brought Knox into the match as well as allowed CM Punk to fill the role of the young, upstart babyface. At the end of this match all the faces got a good rub (I believe they were the only team to not lose a man in SS history) and all the feuds continued on, with this match adding more fuel to the fire. Now there have certainly been way better Survivor Series matches, but this one illustrates how it's really not very hard to put together at least a few traditional Survivor Series matchups as opposed to the one token match we've received in recent years.

The elimination tag matches should effect the status quo/ongoing storylines in the immediate future. There should be something at stake; there needs to be consequences to winning or losing the tag match. The outcome should resonate afterwards.

The tag matches would ideally act like a comic event, insofar as you're guaranteed that the outcome will ultimately pay off down the line. Instead, it's just a few midcard faces against a few midcard heels. I think Survivor Series '04 really embodied what the elimination tag matches should be about. You had Triple H's heel team against Randy Orton's face team, with the winning team's members each getting to be interim GM for a Raw, thus the next four weeks were informed by the winners of the tag match at the PPV (one week, Orton would be GM, the next, Benoit, the next, Jericho, the next, Maven).

I'll go one further; neither the World Heavyweight Championship or the WWE Championship should be defended on the show. It is imperative that both champions be included in the tag matches in order to heighten their importance. Use these tag matches to exacerbate a burgeoning World Title grudge. Have the outcome be a major turning point in a title feud.

Do something like that. Put something on the line. Make the matches meaningful. Have actual grudges going into the matches. That Survivor Series '04 match not only mattered inasmuch as it shaped the programming over the next month, but the build was excellent.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl7xna0RyKg

[Gryphon]

The elimination tag matches should effect the status quo/ongoing storylines in the immediate future. There should be something at stake; there needs to be consequences to winning or losing the tag match. The outcome should resonate afterwards.

The tag matches would ideally act like a comic event, insofar as you're guaranteed that the outcome will ultimately pay off down the line. Instead, it's just a few midcard faces against a few midcard heels. I think Survivor Series '04 really embodied what the elimination tag matches should be about. You had Triple H's heel team against Randy Orton's face team, with the winning team's members each getting to be interim GM for a Raw, thus the next four weeks were informed by the winners of the tag match at the PPV (one week, Orton would be GM, the next, Benoit, the next, Jericho, the next, Maven).

Do something like that. Put something on the line. Make the matches meaningful. Have actual grudges going into the matches. That Survivor Series '04 match not only mattered inasmuch as it shaped the programming over the next month, but the build was excellent.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl7xna0RyKg

This year's survivor series' elimanation tag match was pointless and forgettable.

[Masculine Todd]

This year's survivor series' elimanation tag match was pointless and forgettable.

This year's Survivor Series hasn't happened yet.

[Gryphon]

I meant last year's


This year's Survivor Series hasn't happened yet.

[Mark4myself]

Who's this Bryan Danielson guy?

And how did the size of Ezekial Jackson not clue the guards in that he just may in fact be a wrestler?

[Masculine Todd]

Bryan Danielson is using SOCIAL MEDIA, and he's out to get you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Vtwdozi-Q&sns=em


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Like, what's this guy's deal?