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[Gryphon]

This last one seems slightly more believable.

[Gryphon]

For the simple reason that Undertaker has been in florida looking at the talent before.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

The exclamation points give everything away.

[Gryphon]

Althoguh instead of bringing up new talent to replace the departing talent, why not, Oh I dont know, push guys like DBD and Zack Ryder?

[Gregory]

here!
developing!

We write like dogs bark!

[Gryphon]

Its just the way they write.

[joeAR]

If Punk hasn't resigned I can't say that I blame him one bit. That bit of "newz" about Vince and company offering Punk a movie deal and being confused as to why Punk turned it down is just hilarious if true at all. "Why doesn't Punk want to start in the Chaperone 2?"

[Adrian B AWESOME]

So wait....all Punk wants to do is perform in the ring? HUH?! How can that be?!

[Gregory]

Its just the way they write.

No, it's tabloid writing to make things sound dynamic and kinetic. But they immediately become a din, a constant white noise of raised voices.

Look at the papers and magazines that constantly use exclamations in headlines and articles and those that don't. You'll see a distinction in credibility and quality.

[joeAR]

So wait....all Punk wants to do is perform in the ring? HUH?! How can that be?!


Nope, everyone desires to be a D list movie star. Punk is a fucking oddball. Him and his straight edge cult.

[Gregory]

If Punk hasn't resigned I can't say that I blame him one bit. That bit of "newz" about Vince and company offering Punk a movie deal and being confused as to why Punk turned it down is just hilarious if true at all. "Why doesn't Punk want to start in the Chaperone 2?"

"We want you in the ring, and, to prove it, we'll send you away for a month to make a movie."

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Jack Kirby ended all of his sentences in his comics with exclamation points. It's comic book writing in the real world. No one does that.

[ImYrWoodbury]

David Otunga just needs a new hairdo and sunglasses. Maybe a jacket. Maybe a jean jacket. He'll be fine.

He wore jeans with snaps down the legs and tore them off on tue way to ring when he first debuted on NXT.

[Foolish Mortal]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/exclusive-triple-h-reaching-out-for-undertakers-help-132353


Apparently, Triple H feels that with 'Taker off the road, Shawn Michaels retired, and HHH himself now in the office, the locker room has a leadership void. "John Cena is obviously the leader of the Raw side, and Orton has stepped up behind the scenes on Smackdown," we were told by another key WWE insider, "but the veteran voice in the locker room is missing, and both (WWE Chairman) Vince (McMahon) and Triple H are trying to stop a trend that is definitely developing!"

Yeah that doesn't read the least bit scripted at all. :lol:

[SteveFlack]

http://www.wrestlenewzzzzzzzz316.com/newhotsablepicz.htmlz


If thing weren't bad enough in the WWE locker room lately, they might have just gotten worse. Inside sources tell us a nasty athletes foot problem is spreading. "I have to wear flip flops in the shower!" said one inside source. "Also, we're running out of toilet paper! It's madness!"

[Adrian B AWESOME]

David Otunga should be revealed as this SOCIAL MEDIA the 'E's a-buzz about recently.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

I'll leave this to the guys who could actually be hurt by these things:

Is there a difference between a face using "fag/homo" and such as a slam and a heel using "fag/homo" to draw heat off fans?

Personally I don't think so, but my opinion means little since I'm not gay (even though Todd wishes I was).

[SteveFlack]

MORE! EXCLAMATION! POINTS!

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/WWE_Very_Determined_To_Re-Sign_Rey_Mysterio.html



WWE Very Determined To Re-Sign Rey Mysterio

Several key WWE sources have informed us that the new priority for talent executive John Laurinaitis is to re-sign Rey Mysterio, whose contract expires early in 2012.

"Laurinaitis has a lot of egg on his face right now," we were told, "think about all the talent that has refused to re-sign. Jericho wouldn't re-sign. MVP wouldn't re-sign. Punk won't re-sign. Even undercard wrestlers like Chavo (Guerrero) won't re-sign right now. Laurinaitis needs a key re-signing to keep his corporate credibility alive right now!"

With the serious fallout from CM Punk's homophobic remarks in Australia, Laurinaitis has targeted keeping Rey Mysterio in the fold as a demonstration to WWE Chairman Vince McMahon he still has the talent under control. "Laurinaitis always had big shoes to fill since he took over from Jim Ross," we were told, "now he has to produce results. This is going to be very interesting to watch!"

[Adrian B AWESOME]

MORE! EXCLAMATION! POINTS!

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/WWE_Very_Determined_To_Re-Sign_Rey_Mysterio.html

:lol: Even if true, really? The dude's 36. His best years are way behind him and, yet, there's more focus on him than signing a guy who has a least another 5 years of great wrestling ahead of him. So stupid.

[Gregory]

I'll leave this to the guys who could actually be hurt by these things:

Is there a difference between a face using "fag/homo" and such as a slam and a heel using "fag/homo" to draw heat off fans?

Personally I don't think so, but my opinion means little since I'm not gay (even though Todd wishes I was).

I tried to argue elsewhere that "homo" loses all sting once you get to high school. Because then the accusations move to stronger words. I consider it as dull an insult as "doodyhead." I think Punk thought the same.

[Blake Sims]

I'm watching an old Smackdown and Todd Grisham just said speaking of terrible, followed by Mike Knox's entrance music. HAW!

He was referring to R-Truth's out look, but still it worked.

[Blake Sims]

How old is Punk?

[SteveFlack]

I'll leave this to the guys who could actually be hurt by these things:

Is there a difference between a face using "fag/homo" and such as a slam and a heel using "fag/homo" to draw heat off fans?

Personally I don't think so, but my opinion means little since I'm not gay (even though Todd wishes I was).

Now, now, only the boss's son-in-law can make homophobic comments.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcEQB4_LGvI

[Adrian B AWESOME]

How old is Punk? 32. But he doesn't have the injuries stacking up that Mysterio does.

[Blake Sims]

32. But he doesn't have the injuries stacking up that Mysterio does.

Yeah that would make a huge difference.

[Masculine Todd]

Adrian and I should do commentary on all the sports!

[Masculine Todd]

You guys are talking about these gay groups a lot.

[SteveFlack]

You guys are talking about these gay groups a lot.

Gay Groups? I though GLAAD was a new wrestling faction.

[Masculine Todd]

This wouldn't be the first time the WWE lied to GLAAD about a storyline. They gave that group a happy line about the upcoming Billy/Chuck wedding, and GLAAD was pissed when the relationship was revealed to be a lie to boost the team's profile.

Also, hey GLAAD, the guy has a Cobra tattoo. He's obviously the bad guy.

In 2002, they were still highly insular and not nearly as reliant on endorsement and licensing deals. You wanna placate a Mattel and a Sears, you keep interest groups happy.

[Masculine Todd]

Gay Groups? I though GLAAD was a new wrestling faction.

glAAd says: "watch your back"

Get it, 'cause they'll poopfuck you

[Adrian B AWESOME]

GAALD keeps gingers in check.

[Masculine Todd]

He wore jeans with snaps down the legs and tore them off on tue way to ring when he first debuted on NXT.

And then they never did it again, and he's never gotten over! That isn't a coincidence.

[Masculine Todd]

I'll leave this to the guys who could actually be hurt by these things:

Is there a difference between a face using "fag/homo" and such as a slam and a heel using "fag/homo" to draw heat off fans?

Personally I don't think so, but my opinion means little since I'm not gay (even though Todd wishes I was).

When face Cena used 'homo' as a pejorative, it was for the express purpose that queer activists cringe at. Somehow (somehow...insert jokes here), being gay is emasculating; it's utilized in a promo for gaining the upper-hand. That reinforces everything shitty and homophobic about the slur.

We can hide under the pretense of "that's their job" all day, but a heel doing it is equally as shitty. Generating heat by exploiting homophobia, transphobia, queer hate - which is, you know, very real and very detrimental to an emerging part of the populace - is shitty.

What sucks about both of them is that it's so lazy. It's cheap heat or a cheap pop. When Cena (as a face) did it, he tapped into an overwhelmingly homophobic sentiment found within WWE's audience and used it against his opponent. That was a cheap way of rallying fans behind him and against the heel (Hunter's notorious for that shit too). It's uninspired, much like tapping into that already existing "state/town pride" when mentioning a local monument/hotspot or sports team in a promo.

When a heel labels a face as such, it's to shame them, thus making the fans cry for blood that this asshole would dare degrade their favorite star's name. Again, they extract the audience's own ignorance and homophobia and concentrate it within the promo. You may as well use their disdain for the rival town while you're at it.

It's especially disconcerting in wrestling because of the threat of violence attached to promos/words/use of 'fag' or 'homo.' Dem's fightin' words and all that. It's yet another agent of reinforcing violence on anyone who identifies as queer.

That's not the same as someone - especially those of the marginalized/subjugated class - reappropriating a slur (like fag) and using it in different contexts than what an oppressive group does. That's the whole 'taking back a word' strategy. That's subverting the potency/power of a hateful epithet (I KNOW SOCIOLOGY TEXTBOOK 101 SHUT UP MASCULINE TODD). I've never seen it used that way in WWE.

#wheneveritalkabout lgbtq rightsthethreadgoestohell shutuptodd

[Masculine Todd]

Alex Riley should have Tyson Kidd's hair. Tyson Kidd's too small, so he should be given a butler gimmick.

[Foolish Mortal]

And using 'gay' and 'homo' as an insult is as cheap and uncreative as you can get. It's lowest-common-denominator level. Punk is smarter than that and should know better.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

That's what I figured. But again, since I ain't a queer, my thoughts mean little.

[Gregory]

And using 'gay' and 'homo' as an insult is as cheap and uncreative as you can get. It's lowest-common-denominator level. Punk is smarter than that and should know better.

Hey, he's STRAIGHT edge.

[Masculine Todd]

Right. Homophobia aside (and that's a huge aside), it's uninspired. It's unimaginative. It's contrived. It's boring. It'll get a brief pop, but that's because of a predisposition against anything queer. It won't stick with the fan. Calling Cody Rhodes a cocksucker won't escalate a feud in any way memorable. Punk's soliloquy at the end of Raw last week is how you create tension/animosity between talker and opponent.

[Masculine Todd]

my thoughts mean little.

luv u ad

Zoned out faggin, dawg.

[Masculine Todd]

This is what Danielson and Tyson Kidd should be doing!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C86m70BqA0w

[Briomega]

Wrestle Zone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡¡!¡¡¡¡

[ImYrWoodbury]

And then they never did it again, and he's never gotten over! That isn't a coincidence.

That's what I'm saying! And we never got any "Google Me!" T-shirts. It's like they're not even trying anymore.

[Benel Germosen]

Hey, he's STRAIGHT edge.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrc_Qy1ZX3A

[joeAR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_geZNFDJYw&feature=feedu

[Kirblar]

Posting videos without commentary to add to them just seems awkward to me.

[Benel Germosen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_geZNFDJYw&feature=feedu

Which reminds me, what's Kenny Omega doing right now?

[joeAR]

Which reminds me, what's Kenny Omega doing right now?

I think he's still in Japan and teaming with Ibushi.

[ImYrWoodbury]

I think he's still in Japan and teaming with Ibushi.

That's what I thought, too. I remember he was supposed to wrestle at Final Battle last year, but had to pull out due to an ankle injury. I was pretty bummed.

[SteveFlack]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Interesting_Exchange_Between_John_Cena_and_CM_Punk _WM_28_Packages_RAW.html


After John Cena defeated CM Punk in the main event of the WWE live event in Brisbane yesterday, Punk took the mic and put over Cena, showing respect. Punk then started talking about The Rock, saying that while Rock is off filming movies, Cena is here in sickness and health performing for the WWE Universe. Punk and Cena shook hands before he left.

Cena then spoke, also putting over Punk and showing respect. Cena called Punk the best wrestler in WWE right now and said their Money in the Bank match will be the match of the year. Even bigger than he and The Rock at WrestleMania, he said.

Adios, Punk. Nice knowing ya...

[Benel Germosen]

And here's video of that:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMbiyCG7luw&feature=player_embedded


Also, Kevin Steen shoots an open letter over to ROH:



The following is from SteenWrestling.com:

The second I heard it, I got a feeling in the pit of my stomach that I will never forget.

So many things went through my mind...how could I end up in this situation? What can I do to fix it? Is it too late to change things? And most of all...how could I live without Ring Of Honor?

I heard the sound that signified my career in ROH was over and my heart sank. Actually, it felt more like it started bleeding.

All I wanted from the beginning of my wrestling career was to make an impact on as many people as I could and work for a company I would be proud to call home. Many promotions helped me achieve but in the past few years, my entire career was consumed by Ring Of Honor. When my son was born I had to make some very tough choices and I had to recude my schedule with wrestling companies that were very close to my heart but I chose to remain with ROH through it all, as difficult as it was, because that's where I felt I belonged.

I was with ROH for over four years. I saw a lot of people come and go. And I honestly never thought that eventually some of the newer guys would see me go...

But I made decisions over the course of those four years that greatly impacted several people. And a lot of them might never forgive me for those decisions.

I can't bring myself to list everyone I hurt and every bad choice I made. It would be counter-productive anyway. What I want to do is look to the future and make things right.

I've stayed in touch with the ROH product. I've read the results from the shows, watched the videowires. I even bought the iPPV's. And everytime I'd watch, I would see exactly what I expected. The best wrestling in the world put on by the hardest working crew in the business.

But there's one thing I'd see that I did NOT expect at all.

Steve Corino, standing in the ring, apologizing for his actions of the last year. A humbled Steve Corino, offering to help the up-and-coming talent. A Steve Corino desperate to make up for past mistakes, standing up for what's right.

I'll be honest, that blew me away. And what blew me away even more is the way the fans forgave him. They welcomed his new ways and accepted him with open arms. Seeing all this helped me come to a realization...I had to do the same.

I've wanted to send this letter for a long time but I never gathered the stenght I needed to do it. Until now...

This past week has seen Steve Corino, my idol, ask for help from me. It has seen ROH officials declare that I am not welcome in New York City on Sunday. I really can't blame them for that.

But what I can do is ask for a chance to show them who I am now. A chance to come make things right. A chance to help my friend.

Jim, Syd, Ross...I know the last year was very hard for the both of you, with all the changes the company went through. And I know that my erratic behavior certainely didn't help. I'm well aware of the legal trouble I got the company into a few times and that I am possibly responsible for Cary Silkin's decision to sell the company. I can't deny the fact that I was out for myself and that I put myself before the company at all times. However, what you guys can't deny is that as risky and out of control as I may have been, I still created more memorable moments in 2010 than anyone else. You can't deny that I poured my heart and soul into my work. You can't deny that I gave 100% of my mind to ROH...I almost lost my mind in the process.

But these months away have done me some good and seeing Steve, and now Jimmy, act the way they do has been very eye-opening for me. I, too, am a changed man. I'm in better shape, physically and mentally. And above all else, I miss ROH. I miss the people. I miss the fans. I miss the rush.

I'm not asking for a new contract. I'm not asking for the company to commit to having me on the shows. I'm not a fool. All I want is a chance to come in Sunday, stand by my friend and show you that I can be what this company has wanted me to be this whole time. We can see where to go from there after...

One thing is certain. I will be in New York on Sunday.

What remains uncertain is if I'll be in the building to support Steve, or if I'll have to support him by simply waiting by his car and hope for the best for him.

I want to be in there though.

Steve wants it...and the fans want it too.

You have the power to let it happen.

Thank you,

See you Sunday...

Kevin

[Blake Sims]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/interesting_exchange_between_john_cena_and_cm_punk _wm_28_packages_raw.html



adios, punk. Nice knowing ya...

nooooooooooooooooooooooo

[joeAR]

And here's video of that:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMbiyCG7luw&feature=player_embedded


Also, Kevin Steen shoots an open letter over to ROH:


A post with both Punk and Steen? You have outdone yourself this time sir.

[Benel Germosen]

A post with both Punk and Steen? You have outdone yourself this time sir.

I grab imaginary brass rings.

[Kirblar]

Is Steen's thing 100% in character, or is there legit background stuff I'm ignorant of?

[Benel Germosen]

Is Steen's thing 100% in character, or is there legit background stuff I'm ignorant of?

Kayfabe.

[Gryphon]

Whats the deal about wwe wrestlers being robbed in south africa?

[Greenville 90210]

Whats the deal about wwe wrestlers being robbed in south africa?

It's all for the mega-push they're about to give that wiener that does the 450.

[ImYrWoodbury]

That Steen letter looks like it's from before the Best In The World iPPV. In other words, a work.

[SteveFlack]

At this point, I'm starting to get upset when the WWE ring announcers don't announce Justin Gabriel as "The South African Weiner!"

[Brad N.]

Whats the deal about wwe wrestlers being robbed in south africa?

Randy Orton tweeted yesterday that after they finally got their luggage half the roster noticed there was stuff missing.

[SteveFlack]

Randy Orton tweeted yesterday that after they finally got their luggage half the roster noticed there was stuff missing.

http://willdo.philadelphiaweekly.com/archives/041007repoman.jpg

[Greenville 90210]

At this point, I'm starting to get upset when the WWE ring announcers don't announce Justin Gabriel as "The South African Weiner!"

I'm rubbing off on you.

In a good way. :heybaby:

[Gryphon]

Randy Orton tweeted yesterday that after they finally got their luggage half the roster noticed there was stuff missing.

From what Ive heard, thats not uncommon to happen.

[SteveFlack]

From what Ive heard, thats not uncommon to happen.

What's your source on that?

[Foolish Mortal]

From what Ive heard, thats not uncommon to happen.
Yes theft rings at American airports is not uncommon. There was a big one busted up at DFW airport a few years ago. It's become more difficult now because of the TSA regulations, but it still goes on. If it happens here, I can imagine it goes on in other countries.

[Gryphon]

What's your source on that?

People I have spoken with who travel there.

[VenomMelendez]

Wasn't he the big, muscly Mexican wrestler? .

Apollo is Puerto Rican, not Mexican.

They even mentioned he was from Ponce, Puerto Rico when he went out.

[SteveFlack]

People I have spoken with who travel there.

Hmmm. I don't buy it. Come back when you have more info to back it up.

[Briomega]

What's your source on that?

Lords of the Airport.

[Masculine Todd]

Apollo is Puerto Rican, not Mexican.

They even mentioned he was from Ponce, Puerto Rico when he went out.

Everyone who isn't white looks the same to me, mayne!

/racismisfun

#i'mtheworst - sorry, Puerto Ricans

[ImYrWoodbury]

Everyone who isn't white looks the same to me, mayne!

/racismisfun

#i'mtheworst - sorry, Puerto Ricans

Lauded BenBo Poster Masculine Todd, we comin' for you, cracka'!

#apostrophesruinhashtags

[SteveFlack]

#apostrophesruinhashtags

Thank you for my new emo band name.

"...this one is called "all of our songs are a hundred and forty characters long"."

[Ryan_ZOOM_Turner]

i trust no "news" writing that includes exclamation points.

:lol:!

[ImYrWoodbury]

Thank you for my new emo band name.

"...this one is called "all of our songs are a hundred and forty characters long"."

You could have a Retweet album, I mean a remix album. Or would it be a cover album? Oooooh, and instead of Thank-yous in the liner notes they would be Mentions.

[Ryan_ZOOM_Turner]

here!
Developing!

We write like dogs bark!

:lol:

[Benel Germosen]

My woman is on the youtube.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Dh7xwhsYY&feature=feedu

[Gryphon]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Update_on_the_Future_of_Nexus_After_CM_Punk_s_Depa rture_Alberto_Del_Rio_s_Brother.html


Alberto Del Rio's 23 year old brother Memo Rodriguez is now living in South Florida and has began training with former ECW wrestler Pablo Marquez.

- An idea was brought up by WWE creative recently to put Zack Ryder in a new group with WWE Tag Team Champions David Otunga and Michael McGillicutty, who may be without a stable if or when Nexus dies after CM Punk's departure.

- Speaking of Nexus' future, Mason Ryan will likely be repackaged. There has been talk of using him as a bodyguard for either The Miz or Alberto Del Rio.

[Gryphon]

From the Wreslting Observer Newsletter.


Background:

Pro kickboxing: Vladimir Kozlov

Sambo: Vladimir Kozlov (national place winner)

MMA: Santino Marella, Alberto Del Rio

College Basketball: Eli Cottonwood (St. John’s Minnesota); Kane (Northeast Missouri State/Truman State); Big Show (Wichita State); Undertaker (Angelina College/Texas), Kevin Nash (University of Tennessee)

European Pro Basketball: Eli Cottonwood, Kevin Nash

NBA D-League Basketball: Eli Cottonwood (2004 Charleston Lowgators)

Bodybuilding: John Cena, HHH (Mr. Teenage New Hampshire), Ezekiel Jackson, Great Khali (Mr. India), Chris Masters

Women’s Figures: Kaitlyn

College Football: Lucky Cannon (St. Francis Xavier University), John Cena (Springfield College/Massachusetts), Husky Harris (Troy University), Kane (Northeast Missouri State/Truman State), Titus O’Neil (Florida), Alex Riley (Boston College), Jack Swagger (Oklahoma), Percy Watson (Western Carolina - All Southern Conference defensive lineman 2001, 2002 and 2003), The Rock (University of Miami), Andy Leavine (Florida International University)

Arena Football: Lucky Cannon, Titus O’Neil (2003-2007 Utah Blaze, Tampa Bay Storm, Las Vegas Gladiators, Carolina Cobras)

Canadian Football: The Rock (Calgary Stampeders)

NFL: Percy Watson (2005 Washington Redskins)

High School Football All-American: Titus O’Neil (1995 Parade Magazine All-American Swannee High School, Live Oak, FL; Listed No. 75 best college football prospect of the year), The Rock (Freedom High School, Allentown, PA)

Girls Soccer: Brie Bella, Nikki Bella

Amateur Wrestling: Husky Harris (Florida high school state heavyweight champion 2005), Kofi Kingston (placed in Massachusetts high school state meet), Alberto Del Rio (Mexican national champion freestyle, Greco-Roman bronze medal teenage world championships; 1997 5th place at 214 pounds Pan American Games), Randy Orton, Beth Phoenix, Cody Rhodes (2002 and 2003 Georgia high school state champion at 189 pounds), Jack Swagger (7th place, 2006 NCAA heavyweight tournament, University of Oklahoma ), Dolph Ziggler (Ohio high school state champion at 147 pounds 1998; Mid American Conference champion at 165 pounds, 2001, 2002 and 2003, Kent State University), Andy Leavine

Modeling: Brie Bella, Nikki Bella, Alicia Fox, Justin Gabriel, Kelly Kelly, Gail Kim, Maryse, Melina, Rosa Mendes, Eve Torres, Kaitlyn

Reality TV: The Miz, David Otunga

Gymnastics: John Morrison

Beauty pageants/Swimsuit competitions: Maryse, Melina

Second/Third Generation Pro wrestler: Ted DiBiase (Ted DiBiase Sr., Mike DiBiase, Helen Hild), Justin Gabriel (Paul Lloyd Sr.), Goldust (Dusty Rhodes), Husky Harris (Mike Rotunda, Blackjack Mulligan), Alberto Del Rio (Dos Caras), Michael McGillicutty (Curt Hennig, Larry Hennig), Natalya (Jim Neidhart, Stu Hart), Randy Orton (Bob Orton Jr., Bob Orton Sr.), Primo (Carlos Colon), Cody Rhodes (Dusty Rhodes), David Hart Smith (Davey Boy Smith, Stu Hart), Tamina (Jimmy Snuka), Jey Uso (Rikishi), Jimmy Uso (Rikishi), The Rock (Rocky Johnson, Peter Maivia), Sin Cara (Dr. Karonte)

Cheerleaders: Vickie Guerrero, Layla (Miami Heat), Eve Torres (Los Angles Clippers)

Professional dancers: Layla (Miami Heat), Eve Torres (Los Angeles Clippers)

Olympic weightlifting: Mark Henry (1992, 1996 Olympics)

Powerlifting: Mark Henry (set state and national records in squat and deadlift)

Judo: Santino Marella

U.K. Gladiators: Mason Ryan

[Gryphon]

From the Observer

Alex Marvez did an interview with Zach Gowen, who talked about recently going through WWE sponsored rehab. Gowen who developed drug and alcohol problems during, if not before his WWE stint, fell apart after being fired in 2004 for having a bad attitude. “When the rug got pulled out from under me and the spotlight faded, I lost my identity,” he said. “I was with my dream girl and had a dream job. All of a sudden, my dream job is no longer, the money runs out, the girl leaves and I’m left with myself thinking about how I ended up here. All the insecurities and bad feelings I had before I was in WWE came back, much much harder than before. I found comfort in drugs. I remember the night I fell in love with them. I felt good about myself. I thought, `This is the solution,’ and they were for a very long time. At some point, the solution became the problem and I couldn’t stop. When I wasn’t high, I felt miserable. It then got to the point that even when I was high, I felt miserable.” Gowen said he spent two years unsuccessfully trying to rid himself of drugs before he contacted WWE for rehab. He credited Ann Russo-Gordon of WWE, who is the coordinator of the program, for saving his life. He’s now doing work as a stuntman in Hollywood and is looking at writing an autobiography and wants to be a motivational speaker.

At times, Vince doesnt seem like a bad guy.

[Gryphon]

Regarding the deal with Brock Lesnar, while the contract I don’t think has been signed, the creative on the deal (not a television appearance thing as noted) has been worked out and people close to it are talking of it like it’s done. It’s still not announced because you have so many different moving parts including Lesnar, Heyman, Vince McMahon, Dana White and others in the middle of all this, and if only one spoke of that wheel has a change of heart (outside of Heyman), the whole deal collapses.
From the Observer

[Gryphon]

Punk giving WWE the rights to his name was an issue in the past. It would indicate both a new deal has been reached in some form. Regarding Punk’s ownership of his name, even though WWE has trademarked the name, since Punk brought the name with him into the business relationship, they can never stop him from using it after leaving the relationship because he created the intellectual property. This just gives WWE the right to merchandise the name and likeness.

Interesting.

[Gryphon]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/WWE_Releases_Two_Developmental_Wrestlers_Goldust_U pdate_Sin_Cara_Appearance.html


Dustin Runnels (a/k/a Goldust) is working as a producer backstage until he recovers from his shoulder injury. He has been sidelined since December.

-- Sin Cara and Justin Gabriel are advertised to appear at the Canal Walk Shopping Centre in Cape Town, South Africa tomorrow beginning at 10:00 a.m. Canal Walk Shopping Centre is located at Shop 65, Century Boulevard, Century City, Milnerton, Cape Town.

-- Monty Lynch and Russell Walker have been removed from Florida Championship Wrestling's roster page, which would indicate that they have been released by WWE.

Lynch, whose real name is Oliver Biney, signed a developmental contract with WWE last September following a tryout in his native England. He formerly competed as "Bad News" Rampage Brown.

Walker, whose real name is Reuben de Jong, is a 6'10" wrestler from New Zealand that bears a similar resemblance to Sheamus. He joined WWE in February, but was used sparingly in FCW. Prior to entering the world of professional wrestling in 2009, de Jong competed as a kickboxer, mixed martial artist and strongman.

[Drew]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/WWE_Releases_Two_Developmental_Wrestlers_Goldust_U pdate_Sin_Cara_Appearance.html

No ! means I question the legitimacy of this news!

[Gryphon]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Gail_Kim_Posts_Several_Twitter_Messages_Criticizin g_WWE_s_Use_Of_Divas.html


Gail Kim posted several messages on her Twitter account criticizing WWE creative for not utilizing the Divas to their fullest extent.

Kim wrote the following regarding her match last week with Beth Phoenix on WWE Superstars: "Thank u! The response of our match has been unbelievable and it was TRULY a dream come true. Imagine if we were given a storyline or some more time behind it! Sigh...."

She then wrote the following in response to a Twitter follower wishing WWE would bring former Women's Champion Trish Stratus back to the fold: "There's not a lack of talent, it's the lack of time, storylines and use of talent!"

Kim then wrote a message to Stratus longing for days gone by: "I would love to go back to what we had back in those years! Those were like ironwoman matches back then compared to now lol."

Following Kim's critical messages, a follower remarked to Kim: "Instead of bitching; why don't you leave? People could perceive your tweets a bad attitude?" Kim, however, feels she's telling the truth.

She responded, "Oh thats not #!@%*#ing lol just the truth :) and I don't live my life based on what people perceive. Can't please everyone all the time."

Kim then said she's happy to be a regular on WWE Superstars because she gets to "wrestle."

"Sometimes I don't realize how long I haven't been on RAW because I still wrestle on superstars," Kim wrote. "Which I love because I get to WRESTLE for longer than 3 min and actually have singles matches! Hopefully soon...:)))"

[Drew]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Gail_Kim_Posts_Several_Twitter_Messages_Criticizin g_WWE_s_Use_Of_Divas.html

There you go! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gryphon]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/JR_Blog_Wrestling_s_Old_Days_Upcoming_HOF_Honor_JB L_and_More.html


Jim Ross is back with a new blog over on jrsbarbq.com. Here are highlights from this entry:

- Yes...I will definitely be in Waterloo, Iowa on July 22-23 for the annual function at the Wrestling Hall of Fame. Receiving the Lou Thesz Award is a helluva honor for me personally. Lou was truly our Babe Ruth and I never saw him not wearing at least a sport coat and slacks when he wasn't in the ring. A class act. If you haven't read 'Hooker' written by Lou I suggest that you do. Great book on the history of the business from a legit tough guy's point of view.

- I indeed still do speak with JBL and did so recently. He's busy, John will be on Neal Cavuto's show on Fox Business Channel Thursday night at 6 eastern, and is doing his share of golfing and deep sea fishing in Bermuda. I regret never getting the opportunity to never broadcast with the talkative Texan in my career. Never say never.

- Can today's rosters be utilized like the rosters of the late 90's and early 2000's? Nope. Without the benefit of a viable, wrestling territory experience, many of today's younger talents are still learning on the job. Their predecessors, by and large, learned their craft in a wrestling territory. I know that excludes the Rock who was a 3rd generation talent as that's a different ball game, more often that not. Many of today's wrestlers are being fed a little at a time in hopes that they will break away and take the ball and run with it.

- No...for many fans who yearn for the 'old days,' wrestling will likely NEVER be the same. Is that an overwhelmingly negative statement? It's not meant to be as time will tell where the stars of tomorrow will take us. I'm optimistic of the future but it seems that some aren't.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Oh my God. If I wanted to read every bit of WRESTLING NEWZ that was created, I'd go to those sites.

[Briomega]

No ! means I question the legitimacy of this news!

News? It's barely interesting much less newsworthy.

[Briomega]

Are you just trying to up your post count Groupon? There are conversation threads for that you know.

[Drew]

Kevin Steen on the Art of Wrestling. Excited. Can you tell?

[Drew]

News? It's barely interesting much less newsworthy.

You'd change your mind if board member Cry Phone had put exclamation marks in the piece.

[Briomega]

You'd change your mind if board member Cry Phone had put exclamation marks in the piece.

WrestleNewZoneLordsofAnal!!!!!!!

[Brad N.]

Interesting.

What is interesting? Did you actually think WWE would own the name CM Punk even after he left? Why do you think they usually make new guys change names ala Low Ki/Kaval? That way when they leave the WWE DOES own that name. In most cases if a wrestler signs with their real name or existing gimmick the WWE is just leasing it. It's funny. Almost every time someone leaves I see an "article" wondering if said wrestler would have to change their name elsewhere.

[arthurloewenkamp]

I'm going to Crossroads VII http://events.aceprowrestling.com/ Saturday night. I happen to be working in Jersey for the weekend so I'll make a run over there.

[Prime]

Oh my God. If I wanted to read every bit of WRESTLING NEWZ that was created, I'd go to those sites.

If Gryphon persists in posting every bit of "news" he reads, could he at least do it in one post.

If he is going to post stories, can you comment why he thinks we need to know this? (and I don't mean "hmm" or "interesting")

just copying and posting stories that get reposted on every gossip page out there is flat out annoying.

We all do that from time to time with a story here or there, or if it is a big story(like the recent Punk stuff), but some luggage going missing while traveling, and stuff like that?

All I'm saying is these threads got along fine when I didn't know who Brett DiBiase was.

[Daniel K.]

I feel like if G-phyn had never shown up IGotKittyPryde would have posted some awesome fantasy booking on what should happen with Punk by now and we'd all be debating why it is/isn't plausible, we'd be discussing Punk's outburst and apology way more in depth and there'd be more general discussion on just how boring Randy Orton has become. Also, Todd would never have gone into business for himself.

And while we've metamorphosized into a whole new entity, a Groupon slagging machine, I miss those days dammit.

[Drew]

I feel like if G-phyn had never shown up IGotKittyPryde would have posted some awesome fantasy booking on what should happen with Punk by now and we'd all be debating why it is/isn't plausible, we'd be discussing Punk's outburst and apology way more in depth and there'd be more general discussion on just how boring Randy Orton has become. Also, Todd would never have gone into business for himself.

And while we've metamorphosized into a whole new entity, a Groupon slagging machine, I miss those days dammit.

Grip Hon's rhetorical questions changed the tenor of this forum from awesome fantasy booking and quality discussion into a call and response for what Gryhpon does. It really is the greatest troll job in the history of the U Mad face. And instead of allowing our dreams to take flight? We have Lords of Wrestlezone! And as you can tell? We're more annoyed because of it.

I really do miss the old thread too. Tardiff was a fabulous booker. (Almost as good as I was.)

And as for Todd going into business for himself? Suppose I'll leave that alone.

[joeAR]

I feel like if G-phyn had never shown up IGotKittyPryde would have posted some awesome fantasy booking on what should happen with Punk by now and we'd all be debating why it is/isn't plausible, we'd be discussing Punk's outburst and apology way more in depth and there'd be more general discussion on just how boring Randy Orton has become. Also, Todd would never have gone into business for himself.

And while we've metamorphosized into a whole new entity, a Groupon slagging machine, I miss those days dammit.


You're not wrong. I post what I read online too(not like G but I still post) but if there is a bit of it I post it under 1 fucking post not two pages worth. I think Gryphon just discovered the internet.

[joeAR]

I'm going to Crossroads VII http://events.aceprowrestling.com/ Saturday night. I happen to be working in Jersey for the weekend so I'll make a run over there.


I saw Eddie Kingston and suddenly became uninterested.

[Masculine Todd]

Last three pages: gay groups and Garehin talk.

pride of the b-board, the lot of ya!

[Christopher Brian]

I feel like if G-phyn had never shown up IGotKittyPryde would have posted some awesome fantasy booking on what should happen with Punk by now and we'd all be debating why it is/isn't plausible, we'd be discussing Punk's outburst and apology way more in depth and there'd be more general discussion on just how boring Randy Orton has become. Also, Todd would never have gone into business for himself.

And while we've metamorphosized into a whole new entity, a Groupon slagging machine, I miss those days dammit.

Must admit this used to be an awesome thread to lurk on and read the fantasy booking and the pretty heated yet very well presented arguments by Todd & Brad N. Not so compelling anymore. I don't think anyone came to the thread for the news (or newz now it seems)... I actually liked the thread more for the analysis and discussion. I rarely chimed in because shit was so good I didn't feel I could actually add a view point that wasn't covered already.

[Benel Germosen]

Okay, can we agree that everything I post is awesome?

[joeAR]

Okay, can we agree that everything I post is awesome?


That kind of goes without saying

[joeAR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tljEBR8vI90&feature=player_embedded

[Drew]

Last three pages: gay groups and Garehin talk.

pride of the b-board, the lot of ya!

You went into business for yourself! Again!

[SteveFlack]

WRESTLENEWZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

http://web.archive.org/web/20000831020002/http://www.wrestleboard.com/messages/394.shtml


-Lance Storm had a booking on TSN's "Off the Record" pulled by the office and nobody is clear as to why they'd turn down one of their wrestlers getting national prime time exposure in Canada, particularly since TSN just signed a five-year renewal of its WCW deal.

-Konnan had his pay cut in half because he's injured even though he's been at almost every TV.

-On the PPV, Jarrett called Booker T "boy" several times.

-There has been talk of doing an angle where Vampiro would kidnap and torture one of the TV announcers.

-WCW has decided to cut back on the Australia tour. Originally they were going to send 80 people total, now the figure is less than 40, and probably only two announcers.

-A legit reason, as opposed to a simple ratings ploy, why the first Russo interview didn't air, could be his strong references to Booker T being held back and never getting a chance (the only major ground he didn't cover on the second interview that did air), because of the feeling it would look real bad for the company in the real lawsuit.

-The tour dates for the United Kingdom are 11/10 at the London Arena for a Nitro taping that airs 11/13, 11/11 in Newcastle at the Telewest Arena, 11/12 in Manchester at the MEN Center for the Thunder show that airs 11/15, and 11/13 in Birmingham at the NEC Arena. They will also do one date in Germany on 11/16, most likely a Germany-only PPV date, before returning home. Goldberg is coming in on 8/30 to do a four-day promotional swing to kick off ticket sales.

-WCW filed a lawsuit on 7/24 against AWA Superstars of Wrestling claiming trademark infringement and unfair competition. The suit claimed AWA advertised that WCW trademarked talent Lenny & Lodi "might appear" at a television taping on 2/29 in Laughlin, NV (they didn't appear nor were ever booked to appear). They also claimed AWA referred to the Nitro Girls in promotional material sent to a promoter in Greely, CO for a 6/21 show (Teri Byrne, who was originally Nitro Girl Fyre before being dumped from the troupe has appeared on AWA shows). They also have sent promotional material referring to Tony DeNucci as "WCW rookie sensation" even though DeNucci has never even been affiliated with WCW.

-Add Jim Duggan and Brian Knobs to the list of those cut. Juventud Guerrera was also on the list to be cut after his contract expires.

[Brad N.]

Wow, I got a mention. And for my "fights" with Todd no less. I put fights in quotes because it should really say sexual tension fueled exchanges but that is too much to type into my phone.

[joeAR]

On one hand I hope that Punk resigned so that i'll actually remained interested in the product but on the other hand if he really is unhappy then there is no reason for him to resign.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Punk needs time off. He seems to be exhausted (but he always looks that way) and just needs a break from everything. Give him 6 months and see what happens next.

[SteveFlack]

Punk needs time off. He seems to be exhausted (but he always looks that way) and just needs a break from everything. Give him 6 months and see what happens next.

If he takes 6 months off to just return to the WWE, what a mistake that would be. Seriously, might go down as the biggest fuck up in wrestling history.

[DAVE]

Punk needs time off. He seems to be exhausted (but he always looks that way) and just needs a break from everything. Give him 6 months and see what happens next.He should take something to get his energy up.

[Prime]

On one hand I hope that Punk resigned so that i'll actually remained interested in the product but on the other hand if he really is unhappy then there is no reason for him to resign.

See are you saying resigned(new contract) or resigned(quit)?

Why the he'll are two things that mean the opposite spelled the same it's damn confusing reading.

should it be re-signed for a new contract?

[Blake Sims]

See are you saying resigned(new contract) or resigned(quit)?

Why the he'll are two things that mean the opposite spelled the same it's damn confusing reading.

should it be re-signed for a new contract?

Yes.

[Gregory]

I'm for everyone having time off throughout a two-year period, and Punk could use his hiatus as a strong story element by walking away with that ugly ass belt, allowing the WWE to have a tournament for the new belt that debuts at Summerslam. Del Rio, as the top contender, gets in the match automatically. Cena, of course, is fired for losing, so we won't see him for another week.

[joeAR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqOv3gJbEg&feature=related

[Gregory]

What struck me first about Punk on ECW was that he handled his backstage promos better than everyone else. Mahoney, for instance, had about ten words to say and spent the rest of the camera time mugging for the camera.

[Gregory]

Why would Styles and Tazz pretend to not know the Tarantula when Tajiri used it for years in the WWF/E?

[arthurloewenkamp]

I saw Eddie Kingston and suddenly became uninterested. Good for you. I live in Oklahoma and we don't get much in the way of wrestling so I'm looking forward to a nice night in the claustrophobic ACE arena. It's the only thing in the area that weekend.

[joeAR]

Why would Styles and Tazz pretend to not know the Tarantula when Tajiri used it for years in the WWF/E?


Because that wasn't the Tarantula. The 2 moves are slightly different. Yes I am a geek.

[joeAR]

Good for you. I live in Oklahoma and we don't get much in the way of wrestling so I'm looking forward to a nice night in the claustrophobic ACE arena. It's the only thing in the area that weekend.


In that case enjoy yourself.

[Gregory]

Because that wasn't the Tarantula. The 2 moves are slightly different. Yes I am a geek.

How dare you. I hope you have to watch Justin Credible wrestle four more times.

[joeAR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uZC4kVE5O0&feature=youtu.be

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Get it?! Just Incredible!!!

[ImYrWoodbury]

Campbell's Chunky!

[Brad N.]

Get it?! Just Incredible!!!

Say what you will about Justin Credible but he was great in the Impact Players.

[joeAR]

Say what you will about Justin Credible but he was great in the Impact Players.


I was a big fan of the Impact Players.

[Bervda]

Everything about the wrestling thread pre-LordsofwrestlepainNEWZ was better, except Todd. Current Todd amuses the shit out of me.

[Briomega]

everything about the wrestling thread pre-lordsofwrestlepainnewz was better, except todd. Current todd amuses the shit out of me.

qft.

[Greenville 90210]

I don't mind the constant newz posting. It gives us something to talk about sometimes. And it also gives us something to ignore other times...

[Gryphon]

I will stop posting the news I find.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

I mean, honestly, if Punk leaves, he leaves, but this angle could totally work long run.

I've got a way too intricate plot thought up. :lol:

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

gryphon should post the newz, but only in the raw thread titles

[Ryan_ZOOM_Turner]

I mean, honestly, if Punk leaves, he leaves, but this angle could totally work long run.

I've got a way too intricate plot thought up. :lol:

Post it!

[Mark4myself]

Must admit this used to be an awesome thread to lurk on and read the fantasy booking and the pretty heated yet very well presented arguments by Todd & Brad N. Not so compelling anymore. I don't think anyone came to the thread for the news (or newz now it seems)... I actually liked the thread more for the analysis and discussion. I rarely chimed in because shit was so good I didn't feel I could actually add a view point that wasn't covered already.

Hmmm....Christopher Brian.....Christopher Brian....where do I know.....Christopher Brian...sounds famili.....wait a second!!! Brian Christopher AKA Brian Lawler!!! I"m on to you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60KGGWSj_ms

[Mark4myself]

Everyone is missing the big story here. If Cena loses he will be FIRED!! As in no longer wrestling for WWE. This has never happened before....Cena being FIRED! It's not like he's been fired before, like oh say.....a few months ago in which he didn't miss a single episode of Raw in order to even sell the fact he was supposed to be fired, this is a brand new threat and one that carries serious repercussions. I mean if he's fired, it may be like an entire night before we see him on Raw again.

[ImYrWoodbury]

I mean, honestly, if Punk leaves, he leaves, but this angle could totally work long run.

I've got a way too intricate plot thought up. :lol:

Yeah, post it!

[Daniel K.]

Hmmm....Christopher Brian.....Christopher Brian....where do I know.....Christopher Brian...sounds famili.....wait a second!!! Brian Christopher AKA Brian Lawler!!! I"m on to you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60KGGWSj_ms

:lol: I thought the same thing.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

If Punk Stayed Fantasy Booking:

Cena vs. Punk @ MITB: Late in the match Punk hits a DDT on Cena 1, 2...kick-out. Punk's beyond pissed. While the match is still going on, he gets on the mic and calls McMahon out to watch him destroy his "chosen one." Vince turns his back on Cena and walks out, showing that he doesn't give a shit whether Cena's fired or not. Punk sets up the GTS and Cena reverses into a DDT, both guys go to a near 10-count and start duking it out, classic Rock/Austin style (yes, I know many do this, but trust me, they did it the best) with Cena getting the upperhand, going into Super Cena mode, but Punk dodges the Five-Knuckle Shuffle, putting Cena into the GTS and..reversal. Attitude Adjustment. But instead of Cena going for the pin, he walks out of the ring. 10-count. Match over. Boos for the weird ending, but it's announced that Punk gets the win, making it a bit better. Cena gets on the mic: "There Vince. Happy? You've still got your belt and, more importantly, your ego." A distraught Punk, now in his classic sitting position, sits confused and saddened, while Chicago reigns praise down on him. Cena goes back to the ring, hugs Punk who, surprisingly, returns in kind. Cena holds Punk's hand up as we leave for the night.

The next night: Cena comes out to mixed reaction and says he's sorry. He's sorry for the fans that people like Punk can't be in the WWE because Vince doesn't want WRESTLERS, he wants MOVIE STARS. Etc. etc. "NO CHANCE!" McMahon enters, solo, and says while Cena may be one of the most popular performers in the last decade, he's ultimately a soldier who is either with Vince or against him. He puts Cena in a non-title match against the #1 contender Albert Del Rio that night on Raw. Cena's about to beat ADR when Mason Ryan comes down and beats the shit out of Cena as McMahon stares on, laughing. Stuff like this keeps happening as Vince pulls his "soldiers" in, guys like Ziggler, Rhodes & Dibiase, mid-carders (helping to reintegrate brands as well).

This continues until Summerslam when Cena and ADR face off. ADR doesn't know why Vince is helping him and doesn't care. It's just a part of his destiny. Vince adds a stipulation: No DQ. Cena requests that Vince's Boardmembers (or something like that since he's "the Chairman of the WWE") be barred from ringside and lists them. Vince agrees: No Ryan, no Ziggler, no Rhodes, no Dibiase. Match is going on, and who comes out but The Rock, tired of all the shit Cena's been talking about him. Goes to give a Rock Bottom to Cena (with Del Rio laying out at ringside) when from out of nowhere: PUNK. Punk superkicks Rock and a dazed Cena tries to thank him when...GTS. Del Rio climbs back in. Pin. New champ. McMahon comes out and shakes hands with his secret weapon: CM Punk. Punk walks up the ramp as ADR embraces destiny and shakes hands with Vince.

The next night Punk is unveiled as the leader of the New Corporation. He says that while he doesn't necessarily agree with Vince or his ways that the enemy of your enemy is your friend. Punk is tired of the new blood, tired of people not realizing his greatness...the only one who recognized it was Vince McMahon, who gave him a new contract stating that he could challenge anyone, anywhere for the title whenever he saw fit. Cue Del Rio's music. Del Rio comes out and states that Punk will have to pry the title away from his hands and not him nor John Cena could change what destiny proclaimed. Cena's music hits and Cena demands a rematch for the title that night on Raw, which the Anonymous Raw GM grants with one stipulation: if Cena loses, he will no longer be allowed on RAW. Main event: Cena is distracted by the New Corporation and is pinned (can't have the never quit guy submitting, right?) and is kicked off of Raw.

For the next month Cena is relegated to Smackdown and is at the bottom of the list, facing meaningless jobbers and just being treated like absolute shit by Vince and his stable. Punk, who won the title for ADR at some point due to his clause, was immediately challenged by the MITB winner and lost. He is put into programs eventually with Ziggler, Ryan and Punk while gathering allies around him in the form of DBD, Sin Cara, Alex Riley and Ezekiel Jackson. The two teams of five are the big Survivor Series main event where a stipulation is made that if Cena loses, he also loses his match against The Rock at Wrestlemania XXVIII. Cena's team wins with an assist by Rock who goes on to state that while he doesn't like Cena he doesn't want to spoil what will be his ultimate victory.

For the road to Wrestlemania Cena is back on Raw and the Rock turns up the heat, revealing he was the Anonymous Raw GM (even though that makes no sense but whatever) and proceeds to torture Cena for the next 4 months until Wrestlemania XXVIII where Cena beats Rock and cements his legacy, having gone through 9 months of utter hell to get to that point.

Like I said, it's crazy and it doesn't work in places, but that's the overall gist. Cena doesn't need the title to face Rock, nor should he.

[Daniel K.]

I mean, honestly, if Punk leaves, he leaves, but this angle could totally work long run.

I've got a way too intricate plot thought up. :lol:

Post it! I've got my own ridiculous, not going to happen plan for everything that I'll post as well if you post yours.

And I agree with Steve from a few pages back, if they let Punk go for an extended period of time at this point it would be one of the biggest wasted opportunities in wrestling history. There are so many great places you can go from here and letting him leave inevitably leads to more of the same old crap.

[joeAR]

If Punk Stayed Fantasy Booking:

Cena vs. Punk @ MITB: Late in the match Punk hits a DDT on Cena 1, 2...kick-out. Punk's beyond pissed. While the match is still going on, he gets on the mic and calls McMahon out to watch him destroy his "chosen one." Vince turns his back on Cena and walks out, showing that he doesn't give a shit whether Cena's fired or not. Punk sets up the GTS and Cena reverses into a DDT, both guys go to a near 10-count and start duking it out, classic Rock/Austin style (yes, I know many do this, but trust me, they did it the best) with Cena getting the upperhand, going into Super Cena mode, but Punk dodges the Five-Knuckle Shuffle, putting Cena into the GTS and..reversal. Attitude Adjustment. But instead of Cena going for the pin, he walks out of the ring. 10-count. Match over. Boos for the weird ending, but it's announced that Punk gets the win, making it a bit better. Cena gets on the mic: "There Vince. Happy? You've still got your belt and, more importantly, your ego." A distraught Punk, now in his classic sitting position, sits confused and saddened, while Chicago reigns praise down on him. Cena goes back to the ring, hugs Punk who, surprisingly, returns in kind. Cena holds Punk's hand up as we leave for the night.

The next night: Cena comes out to mixed reaction and says he's sorry. He's sorry for the fans that people like Punk can't be in the WWE because Vince doesn't want WRESTLERS, he wants MOVIE STARS. Etc. etc. "NO CHANCE!" McMahon enters, solo, and says while Cena may be one of the most popular performers in the last decade, he's ultimately a soldier who is either with Vince or against him. He puts Cena in a non-title match against the #1 contender Albert Del Rio that night on Raw. Cena's about to beat ADR when Mason Ryan comes down and beats the shit out of Cena as McMahon stares on, laughing. Stuff like this keeps happening as Vince pulls his "soldiers" in, guys like Ziggler, Rhodes & Dibiase, mid-carders (helping to reintegrate brands as well).

This continues until Summerslam when Cena and ADR face off. ADR doesn't know why Vince is helping him and doesn't care. It's just a part of his destiny. Vince adds a stipulation: No DQ. Cena requests that Vince's Boardmembers (or something like that since he's "the Chairman of the WWE") be barred from ringside and lists them. Vince agrees: No Ryan, no Ziggler, no Rhodes, no Dibiase. Match is going on, and who comes out but The Rock, tired of all the shit Cena's been talking about him. Goes to give a Rock Bottom to Cena (with Del Rio laying out at ringside) when from out of nowhere: PUNK. Punk superkicks Rock and a dazed Cena tries to thank him when...GTS. Del Rio climbs back in. Pin. New champ. McMahon comes out and shakes hands with his secret weapon: CM Punk. Punk walks up the ramp as ADR embraces destiny and shakes hands with Vince.

The next night Punk is unveiled as the leader of the New Corporation. He says that while he doesn't necessarily agree with Vince or his ways that the enemy of your enemy is your friend. Punk is tired of the new blood, tired of people not realizing his greatness...the only one who recognized it was Vince McMahon, who gave him a new contract stating that he could challenge anyone, anywhere for the title whenever he saw fit. Cue Del Rio's music. Del Rio comes out and states that Punk will have to pry the title away from his hands and not him nor John Cena could change what destiny proclaimed. Cena's music hits and Cena demands a rematch for the title that night on Raw, which the Anonymous Raw GM grants with one stipulation: if Cena loses, he will no longer be allowed on RAW. Main event: Cena is distracted by the New Corporation and is pinned (can't have the never quit guy submitting, right?) and is kicked off of Raw.

For the next month Cena is relegated to Smackdown and is at the bottom of the list, facing meaningless jobbers and just being treated like absolute shit by Vince and his stable. Punk, who won the title for ADR at some point due to his clause, was immediately challenged by the MITB winner and lost. He is put into programs eventually with Ziggler, Ryan and Punk while gathering allies around him in the form of DBD, Sin Cara, Alex Riley and Ezekiel Jackson. The two teams of five are the big Survivor Series main event where a stipulation is made that if Cena loses, he also loses his match against The Rock at Wrestlemania XXVIII. Cena's team wins with an assist by Rock who goes on to state that while he doesn't like Cena he doesn't want to spoil what will be his ultimate victory.

For the road to Wrestlemania Cena is back on Raw and the Rock turns up the heat, revealing he was the Anonymous Raw GM (even though that makes no sense but whatever) and proceeds to torture Cena for the next 4 months until Wrestlemania XXVIII where Cena beats Rock and cements his legacy, having gone through 9 months of utter hell to get to that point.

Like I said, it's crazy and it doesn't work in places, but that's the overall gist. Cena doesn't need the title to face Rock, nor should he.


That sounds absolutely great

[Blake Sims]

If Punk Stayed Fantasy Booking:

Cena vs. Punk @ MITB: Late in the match Punk hits a DDT on Cena 1, 2...kick-out. Punk's beyond pissed. While the match is still going on, he gets on the mic and calls McMahon out to watch him destroy his "chosen one." Vince turns his back on Cena and walks out, showing that he doesn't give a shit whether Cena's fired or not. Punk sets up the GTS and Cena reverses into a DDT, both guys go to a near 10-count and start duking it out, classic Rock/Austin style (yes, I know many do this, but trust me, they did it the best) with Cena getting the upperhand, going into Super Cena mode, but Punk dodges the Five-Knuckle Shuffle, putting Cena into the GTS and..reversal. Attitude Adjustment. But instead of Cena going for the pin, he walks out of the ring. 10-count. Match over. Boos for the weird ending, but it's announced that Punk gets the win, making it a bit better. Cena gets on the mic: "There Vince. Happy? You've still got your belt and, more importantly, your ego." A distraught Punk, now in his classic sitting position, sits confused and saddened, while Chicago reigns praise down on him. Cena goes back to the ring, hugs Punk who, surprisingly, returns in kind. Cena holds Punk's hand up as we leave for the night.

The next night: Cena comes out to mixed reaction and says he's sorry. He's sorry for the fans that people like Punk can't be in the WWE because Vince doesn't want WRESTLERS, he wants MOVIE STARS. Etc. etc. "NO CHANCE!" McMahon enters, solo, and says while Cena may be one of the most popular performers in the last decade, he's ultimately a soldier who is either with Vince or against him. He puts Cena in a non-title match against the #1 contender Albert Del Rio that night on Raw. Cena's about to beat ADR when Mason Ryan comes down and beats the shit out of Cena as McMahon stares on, laughing. Stuff like this keeps happening as Vince pulls his "soldiers" in, guys like Ziggler, Rhodes & Dibiase, mid-carders (helping to reintegrate brands as well).

This continues until Summerslam when Cena and ADR face off. ADR doesn't know why Vince is helping him and doesn't care. It's just a part of his destiny. Vince adds a stipulation: No DQ. Cena requests that Vince's Boardmembers (or something like that since he's "the Chairman of the WWE") be barred from ringside and lists them. Vince agrees: No Ryan, no Ziggler, no Rhodes, no Dibiase. Match is going on, and who comes out but The Rock, tired of all the shit Cena's been talking about him. Goes to give a Rock Bottom to Cena (with Del Rio laying out at ringside) when from out of nowhere: PUNK. Punk superkicks Rock and a dazed Cena tries to thank him when...GTS. Del Rio climbs back in. Pin. New champ. McMahon comes out and shakes hands with his secret weapon: CM Punk. Punk walks up the ramp as ADR embraces destiny and shakes hands with Vince.

The next night Punk is unveiled as the leader of the New Corporation. He says that while he doesn't necessarily agree with Vince or his ways that the enemy of your enemy is your friend. Punk is tired of the new blood, tired of people not realizing his greatness...the only one who recognized it was Vince McMahon, who gave him a new contract stating that he could challenge anyone, anywhere for the title whenever he saw fit. Cue Del Rio's music. Del Rio comes out and states that Punk will have to pry the title away from his hands and not him nor John Cena could change what destiny proclaimed. Cena's music hits and Cena demands a rematch for the title that night on Raw, which the Anonymous Raw GM grants with one stipulation: if Cena loses, he will no longer be allowed on RAW. Main event: Cena is distracted by the New Corporation and is pinned (can't have the never quit guy submitting, right?) and is kicked off of Raw.

For the next month Cena is relegated to Smackdown and is at the bottom of the list, facing meaningless jobbers and just being treated like absolute shit by Vince and his stable. Punk, who won the title for ADR at some point due to his clause, was immediately challenged by the MITB winner and lost. He is put into programs eventually with Ziggler, Ryan and Punk while gathering allies around him in the form of DBD, Sin Cara, Alex Riley and Ezekiel Jackson. The two teams of five are the big Survivor Series main event where a stipulation is made that if Cena loses, he also loses his match against The Rock at Wrestlemania XXVIII. Cena's team wins with an assist by Rock who goes on to state that while he doesn't like Cena he doesn't want to spoil what will be his ultimate victory.

For the road to Wrestlemania Cena is back on Raw and the Rock turns up the heat, revealing he was the Anonymous Raw GM (even though that makes no sense but whatever) and proceeds to torture Cena for the next 4 months until Wrestlemania XXVIII where Cena beats Rock and cements his legacy, having gone through 9 months of utter hell to get to that point.

Like I said, it's crazy and it doesn't work in places, but that's the overall gist. Cena doesn't need the title to face Rock, nor should he.

I'd watch that.

As for the bolded part, you're exactly right. It's not like Rock is going to win the belt and come back...

[Gryphon]

I'd watch that.

As for the bolded part, you're exactly right. It's not like Rock is going to win the belt and come back...

And it actually devalues the belt by making it a needless prop.

[Daniel K.]

This is my ridiculous plan for what could happen to Punk at and following MitB. I cooked this up while listening to all the I Want Wrestling and Wrestling Observer podcasts on my way to Houston last weekend so a little of it borrows ideas from those.

At MitB Punk and Cena go the distance and have a crazy match which Punk wins. At this point you could have Punk leave Chicago with the title or do what Alverez has said and have Vince command one or both of the MitB winners to challenge Punk. Whether he schemes his way out of the match(es) by going for a count-out or DQ or actually beats the MitB winner(s) outright I'd have him leave with the title and then disappear. One of the guys on the I Want Wrestling podcast was talking about how great it would be to have Punk actually show up in ROH or New Japan with the belt and then show fancam or, in the case of New Japan, foreign footage on Raw and Smackdown of just where Punk has gone and what he's doing. I love this idea but knowing how insular the WWE tends to be I doubt it would ever happen. Either way I'd keep him off WWE TV for at least a few weeks, leaving Raw without a champion and in turmoil.

Eventually Vince has had enough and practically begs Punk to come back and defend the title, publicly stating he'll give him anything. A new contract, movies, the ability to bring in whoever he wants, whatever it takes. The following week Punk actually shows up on Raw and says he will defend the title but Vince is going to have to own up to those promises he made to get Punk back. First, Punk wants to be in the main event at Wrestlemania. Vince says okay, as long as he is still holding the championship by Wrestlemania he gets to be in it. Secondly, he wants a tag title shot for his new friends: The Kings of Wrestling. Claudio and Hero destroy Otunga and McGillicutty and take the titles with Punk saying that his old Nexus stablemates aren't worthy of being in his new group. After this Punk brings in more members, possibly an IC/US level guy in someone like Tyler Black and, if at all humanly possible, Sara Del Ray.

Punk's indie stable cuts a swath through the WWE, wrecking everyone in their path. You could have a story with Punk's new stable trying to recruit other guys who made their name outside the WWE like Danielson or Bourne with either or both turning Punk down leading to a Danielson/Black, Bourne/Black or a Danielson and Bourne/Kings of Wrestling feud. You could also have either of those two accept and fill the IC/US spot instead of Black.

As the calendar moves on Punk continues to win his title defenses up until the Royal Rumble. At some point Cena is re-hired (and I have no idea how to get around the ridiculous firing stipulation because you know they'd never let him off TV to sell it) and challenges. The match goes on and it looks as if Punk is about to win when Stone Cold comes out and stuns Punk to give Cena the victory, giving Cena the title and preserving the Cena/Rock main event at Wrestlemania. This also sets up the match we've all wanted to see: Punk/Austin. In the aftermath Punk coaxes Austin out of retirement for one last match and we see some of the greatest promos ever. Barring that you could have The Rock come in to assist his chosen opponent or have Taker somehow involved, leading to Punk/Taker as Taker's final Wrestlemania match.

As all of this is going on the Kings continue to win their defenses against all of the established teams and claim to be the best team in the world. It gets to the point where they state that they're bored and stage an invitational, stating that any team or former team that they haven't already beaten is welcome to take a shot at them, leading to the return of beloved and hated teams from the past coming back for a shot at a new common enemy. With this we could get the return of BookDust, MNM, World's Greatest Tag Team, Miz and Morrison and whoever else they can get, eventually leading to a surprise return tag team like JerriShow (With the surprise return of Jericho being the drawing point) coming in to finally defeat them.

On the women's front, if they could get Sara Del Ray I'd have her come in and dominate just like the rest of the stable, destroying the model Divas like Kelly Kelly, The Bellas, etc. until she captures the Diva's Championship (possibly rechristening it the Women's Championship) followed by having her face off with the more capable Divas like Gail, Natalya and Beth, having great matches with them and winning until she is finally brought down by the return of Kharma. Imagine the pop for that.

That's all I've got for now. This is probably the smarkiest fantasy booking I've ever done but I think it would be a lot of fun and, more importantly, it would help build guys for the future, which they desperately need to do.

[Gryphon]

Anyone gonna watch tna tonight?

[Gryphon]

edit.

[SteveFlack]

My fantasy booking:

CM Punk wins the belt at Money in the Bank. He then quits and takes the belt with him. Then he beats up everyone who made fun of me in high school. Then me and Punk go get pizza.

Oh, and I get to have sex with Zooey Deschanel.

Sadly, I think my fantasy booking has a better chance of happening than any of yours.

[Benel Germosen]

My fantasy booking:

CM Punk wins the belt at Money in the Bank. He then quits and takes the belt with him. Then he beats up everyone who made fun of me in high school. Then me and Punk go get pizza.

Oh, and I get to have sex with Zooey Deschanel.

I think my fantasy booking has a better chance of happening than any of yours.

Man, you are a fucking curmudgeon

[SteveFlack]

Man, you are a fucking curmudgeon

I try.

[Benel Germosen]

I try.

What's it like having three fingers? How do you wipe?

[Gryphon]

My fantasy booking,

As Cena approached the ring, the returning Vader and Goldberg beat the living daylights out of him allowing Punk to win.

Why?

Why the hell not, it not like anyone's fantasy booking has any chance of happening.

[ImYrWoodbury]

My same basic idea is pretty close to Daniel's. I may or may not post it later.

[SteveFlack]

My fantasy booking,

As Cena approached the ring, the returning Vader and Goldberg beat the living daylights out of him allowing Punk to win.

Why?

Why the hell not, it not like anyone's fantasy booking has any chance of happening.

Stop stealing my schtick.

[Gryphon]

I felt it was different enough.

[Briomega]

My fantasy booking,

As Cena approached the ring, the returning Vader and Goldberg beat the living daylights out of him allowing Punk to win.

Why?

Why the hell not, it not like anyone's fantasy booking has any chance of happening.

:rofl: someone's trying too hard.

[SteveFlack]

I think we are witnessing GrapeHen's heel turn. How long before he forms an alliance with his arch-enemy Todd?

[Briomega]

I think we are witnessing GrapeHen's heel turn. How long before he forms an alliance with his arch-enemy Todd?

Don't they have to have their career vs. career match first?

[ImYrWoodbury]

I think we are witnessing GrapeHen's heel turn. How long before he forms an alliance with his arch-enemy Todd?

If by "arch-enemy" you mean "alter ego." And Virgil.

[The Human Target]

I like any fantasy WWE booking that stars people from RoH.

[ImYrWoodbury]

My fantasy booking,

As Cena approached the ring, the returning Vader and Goldberg beat the living daylights out of him allowing Punk to win.

Why?

Why the hell not, it not like anyone's fantasy booking has any chance of happening.

Now that's Boarding Hard.

[Brad N.]

My fantasy booking:

CM Punk wins the belt at Money in the Bank. He then quits and takes the belt with him. Then he beats up everyone who made fun of me in high school. Then me and Punk go get pizza.

Oh, and I get to have sex with Zooey Deschanel.

Sadly, I think my fantasy booking has a better chance of happening than any of yours.

I'd watch that.

[Foolish Mortal]

I think we are witnessing GrapeHen's heel turn. How long before he forms an alliance with his arch-enemy Slick?
*Fixed*

[UltimateFactor]

Wow, that three way match with Jack Evans was awesome. I wouldn't mind it at all if TNA just turned into an X-Division company.

[Masculine Todd]

Fantasy Booking for Punk:

CM Punk and John Cena have a match. Cena wins clean. Punk leaves. LAWL! Vince shows up the next night and claims he's still disappointed that the victory wasn't more decisive (because, like, they give Punk a bunch of offense or whatever) and says he should fire Cena right now! Cena's like, "bitch I makes the money." McMahon backs fellow aristocrat ADR as his new Corporate dude to take out the rebel (har) Cena. None of this gets over.

Vince/Austin 2011, but with a guy who's not nearly as fun to watch as Austin. We all bitch. Bryan Danielson does stupid flippy shit without a mask. Fuck that bitch.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

I like how fun to went to Todd and Steve being bitches really quick.

And Steve, no way you're fucking anything. Or eating pizza.

[Brad N.]

May be nothing but I just saw CM Punk tweet he's at Ian's Wrigley pizza joint in Chicago with Beth Phoenix and Jill Thompson. Then shortly after I saw BENDIS (in Chicago Filming Powers) tweet "I wonder if there's anywhere to get a pizza around here". I'd like to see a Kutter meeting take place.

[Briomega]

I would have Punk win the title. Next night on Raw, Truth comes out with the Briefcase and hands it to the ref and says he is cashing in and challenging Punk. Anon. GM says that Punk does not work for the company and the title picture is unknown. But because he gave the Briefcase it counts as cashing in and he loses his opportunity, furthering the conspiracy storyline.

[Masculine Todd]

--Christian did a promo after his loss to Randy Orton in Cape Town talking about his luggage being broken into. "I step off a plane, my baggage is broken into, you rip off the locks and you steal my clothes. Is this what this country is all about? Then shame on you."

LOL Y U SO RACIST MINI EDgE?!

[Masculine Todd]

I like how fun to went to Todd and Steve being bitches really quick.

And Steve, no way you're fucking anything. Or eating pizza.

STEVE N TODD bitches 4 LYFE

LAWL

but seriously, CENA/MCMAHON GONNA B DAT AUSITN/MCMAHON REHASH SWAG GONNA TEAR IT UP 2011

[Blake Sims]

lol Todd lol

[Masculine Todd]

I liked ur booking Adrian

I just wanted to contribute

[Masculine Todd]

Now that's Boarding Hard.

You don't even know what BOARDING HARD means, mayne. GryPin doesn't BOARD HARD.

[iGotKittyPryde]

Fuck you my thread.

This Monday Vince goes nuts on Punk and fires all of Nexus, Punk isn't phased, Nexus is... pretty annoyed. Vince tells him when he loses that he never wants to see him again and he'll waste away in half full bingo halls and trying hard to give away his autograph in sad convention halls. Punk promises to leave with the title.

At Money in the Bank Punk wins the title clean from Cena after a long match. After the match Cena offers a hand. Punk thinks about it... and accepts. And gets FUed. R-Truth's music hits, he won Money in the Bank earlier and he is taking his shot right now. When the bell rings a few guys jump the rails and security jumps all over them and Punk takes the opportunity to escape through the crowd.

The next night is bedlam as Vince goes nuts and Cena is fired, Truth complains that he got screwed out of his Money in the Bank shot only for Alberto to interrupt and say HE should have gotten the title shot and he wants it at SummerSlam. Vince sides with Alberto and Truth starts running his mouth... and gets suspended. Vince announces that there is only one true WWE Champion - Randy Orton, who will now defend the title on both shows. Orton comes out and Vince congratulates him and Orton tells him that while he thinks he is the best, rewriting history is no way to prove it. He tells Vince that Punk is an ego maniac and that he beat him over and over again at WrestleMania and beyond and he can do it again and religitimize the title. Vince tells him he just gave Cena that chance and look where it got him. Orton starts telling him he isn't going to leave till he gives it to him and Vince says the answer is still no. Orton continues and Vince says 'Kevin, cut his mic' and Orton goes silent. He tosses the mic aside and goes after Vince who runs away saying to cut to commercial.

We come back from commercial and the announcers pretend like nothing happened. When one of them mentions something about it their mic gets cut and the other has to explain that his colleague must be having technical difficulties.

Vince backstage announces that Randy Orton is also suspended and that tonight will mark the reign of a new WWE champion in tonight's main event: Miz vs. Rey vs. Riley vs. Alberto Del Rios.

That title match is interrupted by several things: the same guys jumping the rails, a new guy jumps the other side and gets in the ring and jumps on Rey. Security is going nuts trying to contain it. The back floods out to help and we go off the air - still with no new champion and with it pretty up in the air what the situation is.

Vince then goes on Smackdown and says that he wants to meet the man who made this all happen face to face on Raw and challenges him to come to Raw and state his case.

Everyone expects Punk. It's Heyman, he says he has a way to make this all stop and get Vince what he really wants - Punk back for SummerSlam to defend his title. Vince is none too pleased but asks what the conditions are. Heyman says: no interference, he and Punk get to hire 5 men who they get to control the booking of and if Punk leaves - he leaves for good, with the title. Vince considers and eventually accepts. He announces a tournament to crown the 'Interm Heavyweight Champion' to face Punk.

The tournament includes the 4 who were in the match the week before, Christian, Big Show and Vince relents and lets Orton and Truth back in for it.

Eventually the tournament final is Alberto vs. Orton and Heyman and Co. wreck havoc again for another no contest. Vince then says since they broke their word to stop screwing with things, he's breaking his and it won't be a one on one match - it'll be a Triple Threat match. Heyman says that's fine... with one revision: it's not a Triple Threat - it's a Three Way Dance. A disgusted Vince agrees.

And while this is going on we also have Heyman announce the first of his hires: John Cena. Who, to make a point, is told he can't do any of his signature stuff - he has to 'get over on his own'. And Heyman books him in a series of impossible situations, with Cena getting more and more frustrated.

Heyman then also hires: Colt Cabana, Claudio and Hero and it's revealed they were the ones who jumped the rails. Leave one hire up in the air for a while, just a card in your pocket. Have Rey challenge Claudio who was the one who clobbered him and that's a SummerSlam match as well (set up by several Claudio squashes where he does some wacky spots that 'aren't allowed' like the spinning torture rack-y thing).

Vince brings back Mason Ryan and Michael McGuillicutty and challenges Colt and Hero for SummerSlam and it's accepted.

Alberto probably ought to win the title at SummerSlam but all the other guys win and get to look strong with Heyman. Start teasing Brock and deliver him at the Pay Per View after in some capacity.

I feel like all of this isn't TOO out there.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Unfortunately any scenario with Punk in it seems to be too out there...

[Adrian B AWESOME]

I liked ur booking Adrian

I just wanted to contribute

I like ur r-tard, Todd.

U rn't boarding hard enuff.

[Masculine Todd]

Most fantasy bookings lead to some sort of Corporation-esque faction helmed by Vince. The original (pre-union with Ministry) stable was fun, but I don't know if I want to see another [anti-authoritative guy] vs. Vince and his followers program.

I like Ad and Daniels proposals, but, you know, they go back to that all the time.

[Masculine Todd]

I like ur r-tard, Todd.

U rn't boarding hard enuff.

take bck errything good i said bout u

U DON'T KNOW HARD BOARDING JOHN CENATION ISN'T ATTRACTIVE

[Masculine Todd]

Civil Rights Group Championship, 24/7 rules like the Hardcore Belt. CM Punk = first champ. Michael Hayes/Punk feud coming.

[Adrian B AWESOME]

Most fantasy bookings lead to some sort of Corporation-esque faction helmed by Vince. The original (pre-union with Ministry) stable was fun, but I don't know if I want to see another [anti-authoritative guy] vs. Vince and his followers program.

I like Ad and Daniels proposals, but, you know, they go back to that all the time.

Yeah, I know. I hate swerves and reveals, but at this point, some kind of shakeup needs to happen and the idea of McMahon and Rock making Cena's live a living hell up until Wrestlemania so when Cena beats Rock it means something isn't a bad thing by any means.

[Brad N.]

I'm such a nerd. I just tweeted Punk that BENDIS is in town looking for pizza.

[ImYrWoodbury]

Most fantasy bookings lead to some sort of Corporation-esque faction helmed by Vince. The original (pre-union with Ministry) stable was fun, but I don't know if I want to see another [anti-authoritative guy] vs. Vince and his followers program.

I like Ad and Daniels proposals, but, you know, they go back to that all the time.

Vince hasn't been on TV in a while and hasn't been in a feud since the DX one like 3 years ago. The Corporation storyline was well over 10 years ago. If Raw had an actual, physical GM then that would open up some more options. But there isn't, and Vince was the one who came out on Raw and suspended Punk.

[SteveFlack]

I like how fun to went to Todd and Steve being bitches really quick.

And Steve, no way you're fucking anything. Or eating pizza.

That's why it's called FANTASY booking.

[Greenville 90210]

Has anyone called that dude Crimson "Ginger Goldberg" yet?

[Gryphon]

redberg.

[Gryphon]

TNA actually took the name crimson from another wrestler whow as in talks with them, named krimson.

He then was in talks to debut a character named the villain, but they ripped that off as well.

He sent them videos of him doing promos on Hogan and Sting as part of the talks, promos in which he displayed a joker like character, next thing you know, Sting is joker sting and doing stuff like the promo.

[Briomega]

TNA actually took the name crimson from another wrestler whow as in talks with them, named krimson.

He then was in talks to debut a character named the villain, but they ripped that off as well.

He sent them videos of him doing promos on Hogan and Sting as part of the talks, promos in which he displayed a joker like character, next thing you know, Sting is joker sting and doing stuff like the promo.

Oh shit. Someone call the Gimmick Police. That shits gotta be prosecuted!

[Foolish Mortal]

TNA actually took the name crimson from another wrestler whow as in talks with them, named krimson.

He then was in talks to debut a character named the villain, but they ripped that off as well.

He sent them videos of him doing promos on Hogan and Sting as part of the talks, promos in which he displayed a joker like character, next thing you know, Sting is joker sting and doing stuff like the promo.

TNA Impact Wrestling: A shinning beacon of creativity and imagination!

[Greenville 90210]

TNA actually took the name crimson from another wrestler whow as in talks with them, named krimson.

He then was in talks to debut a character named the villain, but they ripped that off as well.

He sent them videos of him doing promos on Hogan and Sting as part of the talks, promos in which he displayed a joker like character, next thing you know, Sting is joker sting and doing stuff like the promo.

To be fair, Sting ripped off the Joker gimmick from the Joker and probably not some indie jobber.

[Gryphon]

To be fair, Sting ripped off the Joker gimmick from the Joker and probably not some indie jobber.

In his shoot interview he showed some of the video promos, and bear in mind he sent them to TNA creative and was in talks with them to come. They definitely saw the promos. And some were more than slightly similiar.

[Gryphon]

Oh shit. Someone call the Gimmick Police. That shits gotta be prosecuted!

Well in his shoot video, Krimson said it made it harder for him to get bookings becasue he started to get viewed as a knockoff od crimson and sting.

[Briomega]

Well in his shoot video, Krimson said it made it harder for him to get bookings becasue he started to get viewed as a knockoff od crimson and sting.

Yeah and if he was really talented then he would be doing the gimmick himself instead of people taking the only thing he was good for.

It's not the first time it's happened and won't be the last.

[Greenville 90210]

Just checked out a couple of Krimson's videos. I guess he ripped off the Joker's look before Sting. Still...I had the idea of Sting ripping off the Joker before any of them did.

[Gryphon]

And once again he sent them the videos, and they already ripped off his name so......

[SteveFlack]

Only in wrestling can one person get pissed off because someone ripped off something they already ripped off.

[Greenville 90210]

Christy Hemme is not a good ring announcer.

[Gryphon]

Oh and there wont be a new ZTLIS until tommorow according to Ryder's twitter.

[Gryphon]

Only in wrestling can one person get pissed off because someone ripped off something they already ripped off.

Its more that he is pissed off because he was trying to sign with them.

[SteveFlack]

Its more that he is pissed off because he was trying to sign with them.

Heath Ledger called, he said "I want my character back"

Or he would, if he hadn't OD'd.

[Briomega]

Its more that he is pissed off because he was trying to sign with them.

So really he's upset he wasn't good enough for TNA.

Now THAT is funny.

[Gryphon]

Heath Ledger called, he said "I want my character back"

Or he would, if he hadn't OD'd.

Was it OD or was it that he mixed the wrong medicine?

[Gryphon]

So really he's upset he wasn't good enough for TNA.

Now THAT is funny.

I can link you the shoot video if you want.

[Brad N.]

TNA Impact Wrestling: A shinning beacon of creativity and imagination!

Meh. Its nothing new. Benoit was the Ringmaster before he bolted for WCW and they gave it to Austin and IIRC Jericho was going to be The Goon.

[Brad N.]

Christy Hemme is not a good ring announcer.

Agreed. Borash sucked too but she is a new level of horrible.

[Gryphon]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/exclusive-wrestler-tells-story-of-tna-stealing-gimmick-132449

Here is his shoot video. Judge for yourself.

[Brad N.]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/exclusive-wrestler-tells-story-of-tna-stealing-gimmick-132449

Here is his shoot video. Judge for yourself.

Jeebus, man. Enough.

[Gryphon]

Agreed. Borash sucked too but she is a new level of horrible.
Isnt she a wwe reject?

[Gryphon]

Jeebus, man. Enough.

Im just saying. The shoot video is in the link ( i couldnt figure out how to embed it) and thats all.

[Brad N.]

Isnt she a wwe reject?

Not really. She won Diva search IIRC and was around for a while. She did Playboy and like others before her they ran out of shit for her to do. Like Sable, Torrie Wilson, and Maria she fell victim to getting big enough for Hef to come calling. WWE promoted her spread, then Vince got jealous or thought they were dirty whores or whatever and they disappeared from TV and released. Calling Divas who posed for Playboy WWE rejects is infantile.

[Brad N.]

Im just saying. The shoot video is in the link ( i couldnt figure out how to embed it) and thats all.

A) what evidence is there that this guy is legit?

B) even if he is it is nothing new in this business.

C) you SAID you were going to stop linking to this Wrestlezone site!

[Brad N.]

Goddamn. I might want to order Destination X after watching Impact tonight. I want to watch every one of those matches badly.

[ImYrWoodbury]

Christy Hemme is not a good ring announcer.

Yeah. Like, noticeably bad. Stuck out immediately to me.

[ImYrWoodbury]

Goddamn. I might want to order Destination X after watching Impact tonight. I want to watch every one of those matches badly.

If I weren't working that night I might be tempted to order it. Low-Ki and A-Double in the same match, RVD vs Jerry Lynn and AJ vs Daniels. It was good to see Lynn on Impact. Looked like he was pretty much recovered from his injury.

[Briomega]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/exclusive-wrestler-tells-story-of-tna-stealing-gimmick-132449

Here is his shoot video. Judge for yourself.

Are you Krimson?

[Gryphon]

A) what evidence is there that this guy is legit?

B) even if he is it is nothing new in this business.

C) you SAID you were going to stop linking to this Wrestlezone site!

I wasnt posting it for the news. I couldnt figure out how to embed the video, and got frustrated so I just posted the link directly.

[Gryphon]

Are you Krimson?


No.

Im still in training.

[Brad N.]

If you just took Hogan off iMPACT as well as changing Sting out of this ridiculous character this would be a decent show. I enjoyed most of the show tonight.

[Blake Sims]

Are you Krimson?
haw!

[Gryphon]

That is to say MMA training.

[Gryphon]

If you just took Hogan off iMPACT as well as changing Sting out of this ridiculous character this would be a decent show. I enjoyed most of the show tonight.

Hogan will never leave TV.

[Brad N.]

No.

Im still in training.

Oh, my. You're Canadian right Griff-dawg? Are you sweating and rolling around The Dungeon with Bruce and Keith Hart?

[Gryphon]

His ego wont let him.

[Gryphon]

Oh, my. You're Canadian right Griff-dawg? Are you sweating and rolling around The Dungeon with Bruce and Keith Hart?

MMA training.

Not joking here.

[Brad N.]

Hogan will never leave TV.

Um, he would if they stopped paying him. Way more good than bad this week but Hogan and Joker Sting kills the whole thing.

[Gryphon]

If I weren't working that night I might be tempted to order it. Low-Ki and A-Double in the same match, RVD vs Jerry Lynn and AJ vs Daniels. It was good to see Lynn on Impact. Looked like he was pretty much recovered from his injury.

Im tempted to actually watch it.

[Gryphon]

Um, he would if they stopped paying him. Way more good than bad this week but Hogan and Joker Sting kills the whole thing.
Then let me correct myself. As long as he can stay on TV, he wont leave. Hogan's ego is too big to let him.

[Brad N.]

MMA training.

Not joking here.

Good luck with that.

[Gryphon]

Oh, my. You're Canadian right Griff-dawg? Are you sweating and rolling around The Dungeon with Bruce and Keith Hart?
Also isnt the dungeon closed down?

[Gryphon]

Good luck with that.

Im actually doing pretty well.

No need for sarcasm.

[Briomega]

MMA training.

Not joking here.

Oh shit Todd. You gonna get armbarred!

[Gryphon]

Whose your prediction for winner of the x division fatal 4 way?

[Gryphon]

Mine is Low Ki of course.

[Gryphon]

Not really. She won Diva search IIRC and was around for a while. She did Playboy and like others before her they ran out of shit for her to do. Like Sable, Torrie Wilson, and Maria she fell victim to getting big enough for Hef to come calling. WWE promoted her spread, then Vince got jealous or thought they were dirty whores or whatever and they disappeared from TV and released. Calling Divas who posed for Playboy WWE rejects is infantile.

I actually didnt know the whole story.

[Briomega]

I actually didnt know the whole story.

And now you know. And knowing is half the battle.

[moonspider]

i dug Impact..... and gotta give them credit , they been hyping the destination X ppv quite well, and they been very impressive for the last month with these matches..

and the card itself looks impressive

yes, the hogan / sting stuff is stupid....but was'nt that how the early days of TNA/IMPACT were...jarret and other crappy schitck, but great high flying and wrestling from the performers?

[Brad N.]

Also isnt the dungeon closed down?

The actual Dungeon is, but Bruce and Keith have a couple old smelly gym mats they lay on the floor of a double wide in Calgary and they call it the Dungeon. I hear admission is a carton of smokes and a keg of Molson.

[Brad N.]

Im actually doing pretty well.

No need for sarcasm.

No sarcasm intended. Good luck. What style are you training in?

[The Human Target]

I'm thinking about getting into MMA and getting really good, just so I can beat the shit out of the 100,000 males age 16-28 training to be MMA fighters on this continent.

[Briomega]

I'm thinking about getting into MMA and getting really good, just so I can beat the shit out of the 100,000 males age 16-28 training to be MMA fighters on this continent.

Heh. Training in MMA is the new Karate school.

[Masculine Todd]

Vince hasn't been on TV in a while and hasn't been in a feud since the DX one like 3 years ago. The Corporation storyline was well over 10 years ago. If Raw had an actual, physical GM then that would open up some more options. But there isn't, and Vince was the one who came out on Raw and suspended Punk.

He feuded with Undertaker in the Fall of '09.

There's the potential for a quality angle, but I can't help feeling a bit weary about the prospect of Vince becoming a permanent fixture of television again, especially if it's to feud with John Cena (who just doesn't pull off that anti-authority role well).

[Masculine Todd]

For those wondering (and we all were), I am not training to be an MMA fighter.

I can do a backflip, though. I mean, I look about as lame/nerdy as Bryan Danielson! Hire me WWE, I'll do flips!

[Masculine Todd]

jk i'm training muay tai just like SAGAT

[Masculine Todd]

I'mma fuck u up ryu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shadoloo 4 lyfe

[Masculine Todd]

UPDATE: Tried doing that backflip, failed.

pooooooooopnewz reports:


Critically lauded Bendis Board regular Masculine Todd injures neck while performing a backflip in his living room at 5:40 am. Sources (him) confirm that he'll need spinal fusion or possibly just to jack off.

[Daniel K.]

I'mma fuck u up ryu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shadoloo 4 lyfe

Daniel K. likes this.

[Gryphon]

No sarcasm intended. Good luck. What style are you training in?

Right now Im being trained in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai.

[Ryan_ZOOM_Turner]

If Punk Stayed Fantasy Booking:

Cena vs. Punk @ MITB: Late in the match Punk hits a DDT on Cena 1, 2...kick-out. Punk's beyond pissed. While the match is still going on, he gets on the mic and calls McMahon out to watch him destroy his "chosen one." Vince turns his back on Cena and walks out, showing that he doesn't give a shit whether Cena's fired or not. Punk sets up the GTS and Cena reverses into a DDT, both guys go to a near 10-count and start duking it out, classic Rock/Austin style (yes, I know many do this, but trust me, they did it the best) with Cena getting the upperhand, going into Super Cena mode, but Punk dodges the Five-Knuckle Shuffle, putting Cena into the GTS and..reversal. Attitude Adjustment. But instead of Cena going for the pin, he walks out of the ring. 10-count. Match over. Boos for the weird ending, but it's announced that Punk gets the win, making it a bit better. Cena gets on the mic: "There Vince. Happy? You've still got your belt and, more importantly, your ego." A distraught Punk, now in his classic sitting position, sits confused and saddened, while Chicago reigns praise down on him. Cena goes back to the ring, hugs Punk who, surprisingly, returns in kind. Cena holds Punk's hand up as we leave for the night.

The next night: Cena comes out to mixed reaction and says he's sorry. He's sorry for the fans that people like Punk can't be in the WWE because Vince doesn't want WRESTLERS, he wants MOVIE STARS. Etc. etc. "NO CHANCE!" McMahon enters, solo, and says while Cena may be one of the most popular performers in the last decade, he's ultimately a soldier who is either with Vince or against him. He puts Cena in a non-title match against the #1 contender Albert Del Rio that night on Raw. Cena's about to beat ADR when Mason Ryan comes down and beats the shit out of Cena as McMahon stares on, laughing. Stuff like this keeps happening as Vince pulls his "soldiers" in, guys like Ziggler, Rhodes & Dibiase, mid-carders (helping to reintegrate brands as well).

This continues until Summerslam when Cena and ADR face off. ADR doesn't know why Vince is helping him and doesn't care. It's just a part of his destiny. Vince adds a stipulation: No DQ. Cena requests that Vince's Boardmembers (or something like that since he's "the Chairman of the WWE") be barred from ringside and lists them. Vince agrees: No Ryan, no Ziggler, no Rhodes, no Dibiase. Match is going on, and who comes out but The Rock, tired of all the shit Cena's been talking about him. Goes to give a Rock Bottom to Cena (with Del Rio laying out at ringside) when from out of nowhere: PUNK. Punk superkicks Rock and a dazed Cena tries to thank him when...GTS. Del Rio climbs back in. Pin. New champ. McMahon comes out and shakes hands with his secret weapon: CM Punk. Punk walks up the ramp as ADR embraces destiny and shakes hands with Vince.

The next night Punk is unveiled as the leader of the New Corporation. He says that while he doesn't necessarily agree with Vince or his ways that the enemy of your enemy is your friend. Punk is tired of the new blood, tired of people not realizing his greatness...the only one who recognized it was Vince McMahon, who gave him a new contract stating that he could challenge anyone, anywhere for the title whenever he saw fit. Cue Del Rio's music. Del Rio comes out and states that Punk will have to pry the title away from his hands and not him nor John Cena could change what destiny proclaimed. Cena's music hits and Cena demands a rematch for the title that night on Raw, which the Anonymous Raw GM grants with one stipulation: if Cena loses, he will no longer be allowed on RAW. Main event: Cena is distracted by the New Corporation and is pinned (can't have the never quit guy submitting, right?) and is kicked off of Raw.

For the next month Cena is relegated to Smackdown and is at the bottom of the list, facing meaningless jobbers and just being treated like absolute shit by Vince and his stable. Punk, who won the title for ADR at some point due to his clause, was immediately challenged by the MITB winner and lost. He is put into programs eventually with Ziggler, Ryan and Punk while gathering allies around him in the form of DBD, Sin Cara, Alex Riley and Ezekiel Jackson. The two teams of five are the big Survivor Series main event where a stipulation is made that if Cena loses, he also loses his match against The Rock at Wrestlemania XXVIII. Cena's team wins with an assist by Rock who goes on to state that while he doesn't like Cena he doesn't want to spoil what will be his ultimate victory.

For the road to Wrestlemania Cena is back on Raw and the Rock turns up the heat, revealing he was the Anonymous Raw GM (even though that makes no sense but whatever) and proceeds to torture Cena for the next 4 months until Wrestlemania XXVIII where Cena beats Rock and cements his legacy, having gone through 9 months of utter hell to get to that point.

Like I said, it's crazy and it doesn't work in places, but that's the overall gist. Cena doesn't need the title to face Rock, nor should he.

Nice

[Brad N.]

Right now Im being trained in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai.

Wow, that's...a lot of...work. Is this a reputible school/teacher(s) or some dude named Gary who holds court behind a burned down Shoney's? Good God, Bruce and Keith Hart aren't expanding are they?

[Masculine Todd]

Right now Im being trained in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai.

Yeah, but can you do a backflip? Get outta here with this weak shit. BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAACKFLIPIN1

[Masculine Todd]

Brad's birthday is today. You're old, Brad. Let's argue or something.

[Brad N.]

Brad's birthday is today. You're old, Brad. Let's argue or something.

I'd rather rub our doughy, pasty, hairy bellies together and do some BJJ followed by a little backflippin.

[Brad N.]

Though if fight we must I left you ample opening last night by saying I liked Impact last night.