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nick maynard
11-27-2010, 12:47 AM
they're just shown shuffling around outside all the time. they've got to experience some serious damage during a serious snow storm. i know they survive even after losing limbs and worse, but wouldn't being outside all winter cause some level of damage? has winter ever been dealt with in the book?

SAVETHEB
11-27-2010, 03:00 AM
I'd imagine they'd freeze if it were cold enough but I don't think it's ever gotten that cold in the comic (I know this cause I'm from comic book land.)

greg donovan
11-27-2010, 03:02 AM
I'd imagine they'd freeze if it were cold enough but I don't think it's ever gotten that cold in the comic (I know this cause I'm from comic book land.)

would they be like some sort of ice sculpture till they thawed and then just continue shuffling off to buffalo?

The Hodag
11-27-2010, 03:19 AM
SPOILERS, YO.

Haven't read the book in years, but wasn't there a story early on where they stay at this gated community during the winter? As I recall, it's deep with snow, but no real signs of danger. Everything's cool until spring hits, the snow melts, and an assload of frozen zombies that'd been beneath the snow rise up.

SAVETHEB
11-27-2010, 03:20 AM
would they be like some sort of ice sculpture till they thawed and then just continue shuffling off to buffalo?

We can only hope. That would be just too easy if they didn't reanimate after being frozen.

HoneyDippinDan
11-27-2010, 04:31 AM
From what I have seen, most of them head down to Florida during the winter months.

ShortStack
11-27-2010, 05:23 AM
parkaaaasss....parkaaaaaaaassss

SgtPepper
11-27-2010, 05:41 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html

TIP
11-27-2010, 05:56 AM
Apparently Nazi Zombies shrug off the chill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Snow)

dougmac
11-27-2010, 06:24 AM
would they be like some sort of ice sculpture till they thawed and then just continue shuffling off to buffalo?


SPOILERS, YO.

Haven't read the book in years, but wasn't there a story early on where they stay at this gated community during the winter? As I recall, it's deep with snow, but no real signs of danger. Everything's cool until spring hits, the snow melts, and an assload of frozen zombies that'd been beneath the snow rise up.

World War Z did something like this

modungo
11-27-2010, 06:28 AM
SPOILERS, YO.

Haven't read the book in years, but wasn't there a story early on where they stay at this gated community during the winter? As I recall, it's deep with snow, but no real signs of danger. Everything's cool until spring hits, the snow melts, and an assload of frozen zombies that'd been beneath the snow rise up.

That is correct.

Kedd
11-27-2010, 11:49 AM
A few of them have a time share down in Boca Raton. It's pretty nice.

majorjoe23
11-27-2010, 12:15 PM
That is correct.

That was not in The Walking Dead.

c. page
11-27-2010, 12:18 PM
That was not in The Walking Dead.

It was pretty close.

My recollection is that they found a housing development (in the second TPB, I think) and the sign warning them away from it was obscured by snow. When they moved in, they stayed for a night, and when clearing the other homes, discovered a whole mess of zombies there. That said, I do think they dealt with the zombies in the cold, but I don't remember specifics.

majorjoe23
11-27-2010, 12:19 PM
It was pretty close.

My recollection is that they found a housing development (in the second TPB, I think) and the sign warning them away from it was obscured by snow. When they moved in, they stayed for a night, and when clearing the other homes, discovered a whole mess of zombies there. That said, I do think they dealt with the zombies in the cold, but I don't remember specifics.

But it was only like a day, and weather didn't really seem to play a part (other than there was snow).

c. page
11-27-2010, 12:23 PM
But it was only like a day, and weather didn't really seem to play a part (other than there was snow).

Well, the snow DID obscure the sign warning them to stay away, otherwise they wouldn't have gone in to begin with. But other than that, I don't recall there being a lot to do with the zombies and inclement weather in that particular arc. I'm still fairly certain it's been dealt with in the book.

And, given the fact that the zombies were relatively the same, one could say that it basically means they were largely unaffected by the snow.

Ryan Elliott
11-27-2010, 12:59 PM
This just cements the fact that werewolves are the most realistic, while simultaneously being very unrealistic, and also the coolest monsters out there.

Heh. Zombies being taken down by a light frost or a heatwave.

Awesome.

Andrew
11-27-2010, 06:55 PM
This just cements the fact that werewolves are the most realistic, while simultaneously being very unrealistic, and also the coolest monsters out there.

Heh. Zombies being taken down by a light frost or a heatwave.

Awesome.

Your 28 Days Later style of "zombie" is what would be more likely to happen.

Ryan Elliott
11-27-2010, 06:59 PM
Your 28 Days Later style of "zombie" is what would be more likely to happen.


Still vulnerable to everything on that list. :)

Andrew
11-27-2010, 07:20 PM
Still vulnerable to everything on that list. :)

Speaking of which, I really don't get the hate for the recent Wolfman remake. What the hell were people expecting? It was a cool period piece, the werewolf costumes were great (especially when you consider that any other modern movie would do it completely CGI, which makes this one more unique) and Anthony Hopkins as a werewolf was awesome. I found it pretty entertaining, and I'm usually the first to admit when a movie flat-out sucks.

Ryan Elliott
11-27-2010, 07:31 PM
Speaking of which, I really don't get the hate for the recent Wolfman remake. What the hell were people expecting? It was a cool period piece, the werewolf costumes were great (especially when you consider that any other modern movie would do it completely CGI, which makes this one more unique) and Anthony Hopkins as a werewolf was awesome. I found it pretty entertaining, and I'm usually the first to admit when a movie flat-out sucks.


I have no idea sir.

It was exactly what I wanted out of a wolfman movie.

Couldn't have been more pleased with it.

Kedd
11-27-2010, 07:46 PM
Still vulnerable to everything on that list. :)

Only to the extent that humans would be. The 28 days later zombies exhibited a nesting instinct that would help during colder months. And they weren't the walking dead, but infected living so a lot of the downfalls of dead zombies wouldn't effect them in the same way.

Kedd
11-27-2010, 07:47 PM
Speaking of which, I really don't get the hate for the recent Wolfman remake. What the hell were people expecting? It was a cool period piece, the werewolf costumes were great (especially when you consider that any other modern movie would do it completely CGI, which makes this one more unique) and Anthony Hopkins as a werewolf was awesome. I found it pretty entertaining, and I'm usually the first to admit when a movie flat-out sucks.

I still haven't seen it.

Ryan Elliott
11-27-2010, 07:48 PM
Only to the extent that humans would be. The 28 days later zombies exhibited a nesting instinct that would help during colder months. And they weren't the walking dead, but infected living so a lot of the downfalls of dead zombies wouldn't effect them in the same way.


http://www.criticplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/28-days-later-2003.jpg

Really dumb!!

;)

Kedd
11-27-2010, 07:55 PM
http://www.criticplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/28-days-later-2003.jpg

Really dumb!!

;)

Like you've never chased a handsome man while on fire.

Ryan Elliott
11-27-2010, 07:57 PM
Like you've never chased a handsome man while on fire.


You get drunk in high school ONCE and you're marked forever.

Supreme Convoy
11-27-2010, 08:17 PM
Oh. For some reason, I thought this was some kinda riff on Catcher in the Rye.

Kedd
11-27-2010, 08:57 PM
You get drunk in high school ONCE and you're marked forever.

Once?:mistrust:

Ryan Elliott
11-27-2010, 09:00 PM
Once?:mistrust:


That you can prove...:shifty:

Slewo.O
11-27-2010, 09:02 PM
they're just shown shuffling around outside all the time. they've got to experience some serious damage during a serious snow storm. i know they survive even after losing limbs and worse, but wouldn't being outside all winter cause some level of damage? has winter ever been dealt with in the book?

In the comics they're shown to mostly be inert during the winter. But they tend to survive.

leafinsectman
11-27-2010, 09:17 PM
How do zombies not starve to death once they haven't eaten for a long time? Did they answer that in the books? I know they're zombies and all but after decades they'd be fucked, right?

Magnum V.I.
11-27-2010, 09:27 PM
How do zombies not starve to death once they haven't eaten for a long time? Did they answer that in the books? I know they're zombies and all but after decades they'd be fucked, right?

I don't think they ever starve to death because they don't eat for nutrition. They eat out of some primal basic instinct to feed. I think eventually, decomposition would destroy them depending on what the virus or zombie effect causes the body to do.

Adam Witt
11-27-2010, 11:54 PM
They just chill.






I'm sorry.

The Hodag
11-28-2010, 12:19 AM
They just chill.

http://www.listicles.com/wp-content/upload/3385/mr-freeze.gif

Jonathan Callan
11-28-2010, 04:35 AM
they're just shown shuffling around outside all the time. they've got to experience some serious damage during a serious snow storm. i know they survive even after losing limbs and worse, but wouldn't being outside all winter cause some level of damage? has winter ever been dealt with in the book?

In World War Z, zombies in colder climates had a tendency to freeze and unthaw the next year when temperatures drop. I'd imagine that, yes, this would have a debilitating effect on their numbers after a few years as it did in the book. But then again, eight billion people is a lot.

Jonathan Callan
11-28-2010, 04:37 AM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html

At least on the first point, animals are usually portrayed as having little to no interest in zombies, right? Just as most predators would have little to no interest in the old fashioned breed of rotting corpse.

Insects are a fair question though. They're built to digest rotting meat and in the Walking Dead, zombies are usually drawn with a lot of circling flies.

c. page
11-28-2010, 04:50 AM
Speaking of which, I really don't get the hate for the recent Wolfman remake. What the hell were people expecting? It was a cool period piece, the werewolf costumes were great (especially when you consider that any other modern movie would do it completely CGI, which makes this one more unique) and Anthony Hopkins as a werewolf was awesome. I found it pretty entertaining, and I'm usually the first to admit when a movie flat-out sucks.

I wasn't impressed, and I normally love a good werewolf movie. I found it to be entirely forgettable. And I really couldn't tell you much of what happened right after I watched it, which is generally a bad sign for a movie.

Ben
11-28-2010, 05:57 AM
I guess you would know what makes sense and what doesn't since you've hung around with real zombies.

ashland10
11-28-2010, 06:54 AM
How can something thats already dead freeze to death?

nick maynard
11-28-2010, 08:59 AM
I guess you would know what makes sense and what doesn't since you've hung around with real zombies.

:roll:

EmarAndZeb
11-28-2010, 09:03 AM
How can something thats already dead freeze to death?

It's not a question of freezing "to death" so much as "freezing solid" and being physically incapable of chasing anything around for 3 months out of a year. Add to this the damage caused by freezer burn (frozen water exposed to air continues to evaporate, dehydrating and destroying tissue), and that freezing/thawing tends to wreak havoc on cell structures (one of the bigger obstacles in successful cryogenics), and you've got a recipe for seriously degraded undead come springtime. Unfrozen zombies might be too mushy to move very well.

As far as scavengers, I don't know about Walking Dead, but I believe Max Brook's excuse was that the same virus that animated the corpses proved toxic/unappealing to the typical "predators" of carrion.

leafinsectman
11-28-2010, 06:57 PM
I don't think they ever starve to death because they don't eat for nutrition. They eat out of some primal basic instinct to feed. I think eventually, decomposition would destroy them depending on what the virus or zombie effect causes the body to do.

Makes sense. I guess in the event of a zombie outbreak, I just gotta make sure I survive long enough for them to decompose.

FedEx Fanboy
11-28-2010, 07:28 PM
Here's a direct quote from Darabont:

"There's some really cool stuff that Kirkman did, where they find the one zombie that's frozen to the ground," Darabont said in an interview with Comic Book Movie. "I'd never seen that before, and that's really cool."