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Outsider
02-08-2012, 09:40 AM
Screencaps:

http://imgur.com/a/sgDJd

Gail Simone
02-08-2012, 09:51 AM
Outsider, thank you again so much for all that help you have been doing. It's great to have a record for the next time Rick changes his story or comes up with a new excuse for being a deadbeat.

Matt Doc Martin
02-08-2012, 09:53 AM
His blog title is so apt...though the only lies pRick Olney sheds light on are his own.

Outsider
02-08-2012, 10:37 AM
Outsider, thank you again so much for all that help you have been doing. It's great to have a record for the next time Rick changes his story or comes up with a new excuse for being a deadbeat.

I'm glad I can help!

Gail Simone
02-08-2012, 11:20 AM
Closin' it all up, tonight, and Rick goes back to yelling at his own stained t-shirt by himself. So sad, so very sad. ;)

HamsterRage
02-08-2012, 11:24 AM
I must say I'm very happy it close. Locking away Rick into his own head will likely drive him even more mad.

You need to get help Rick.

Gail Simone
02-08-2012, 11:29 AM
Kim Thompson, famous for a ton of achievements at Fantagraphics had this to say about Rick: "Within this community, RICK has moved precipitously from idiot to jerk to asshole to sociopath, and I think it should stop here. I also think the board administrators ought to take a stand on this, one way or the other. So far they've kept out of it, presumably hoping that things will eventually calm themselves down --a sane and sensible strategy, and one that I would have followed-- but it's getting out of hand and shows no signs of improving."

and

"As for RICK, who has now officially become the biggest crybaby on the net (I mean, is anyone even a close second), I shall forever treasure (among many others) his latest moment of eloquence: "I contend that my very nature inferiorates him." "

This was TWELVE YEARS ago, Rick saying stupid things and threatening ACTUAL comics industry people.

Artful Angie
02-08-2012, 11:51 AM
Of course you're invited to be part of the panel, Left.

Since this thread is closing tonight, let me say it was a fun ride here with everybody. Please don't be strangers and drop by the Facebook pages to say hi and see how things are going with the REAL ORCA. Thanks to Rick posting his little fanzine from ages past, I'll be sending the list of members there requests to drop in on our page and see if they'd like to RE-JOIN.

And since we won't be replying to Rick's blog anymore, it'll be interesting to see how high his traffic for his pages get. We'll be commenting to each other in PM in FB and here, but pretty much the meltdowns are done. Except for the ones where he tries desperately to get people to respond as a way of acknowledging he exists.

He doesn't. But ORCA goes on without him. It'll thrive. It'll take on a future of its own. And I'll laugh at the idea of Rick holding all these T-shirts at a booth way out of the main room at some con muttering to himself how important he is. Until they come and take him away and give him his "special pills" that will make him sleep better.

And of course, it's been a delight showing Rick how clueless he is towards the people around him. It's all about Rick, and never about anyone else. Because if he took even one moment in all these years to really look at how he treats those around him, I never would have been able to keep my name a secret for so long. Instead, he's groped around, flailing at anyone who slighted him in the least, or who he scammed conned or insulted, and accused them of being me. There's no shortage of names on that list, either.

I'll still be posting on other threads here as usual. So I'll see you all soon. I'm heading over to Ravenswood now and might even put up a REAL ORCA flyer there to drum up more members.

Respect you all and best of luck to all of us. And Olney SUCKS IT!!

Artful Angie
The REAL ORCA!

Important ORCA meeting fact:

ORCA
Only Rick Can't Attend

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-08-2012, 11:54 AM
Rick's got a new post up calling Rich Carlin a liar. So just to show Rick is wrong again.


Rich Carlin: About 3 weeks before the show Rick Olney told me the convention was cancelled.

Rick Olney: It wasn't 3 weeks before. It was exactly 5 weeks before.
The convention in question was, "The Spooky" in 2004.

Here is what Rick put on the Mighty Mini-Con website at the time.


October 22nd & 23rd MMC/Spooky Canceled for 2004Syracuse, NY - October 5, 2004


The scheduled October 22nd & 23rd MMC/Spooky has been canceled. "I had a bank appointment last Friday (10/1) to secure the final financing needed to secure and add the important finishing touches to the MMC/Spooky and heard yesterday that the application was turned down. That was the one thing I never really expected." said Rick Olney of TightLip Entertainment.

So as you can clearly see, Rick was unable to get the money on October 1st, 3 weeks before the convention. He didn't announce that until October 5. So no, not exactly 5 weeks Rick.

It should also be noted that the next year, Rick again claimed to be putting on "The Spooky". It was scheduled to begin October 22 2005 and it was also cancelled with only 3 weeks notice, with the reason given as.


Reasoning for it comes from looking at the increase in costs that came with the close of summer, and weighing how to best address other changes in how we determined The Spooky would be successful or not. We realized ten days ago that it simply wasn't a time to be expending such costs in the Syracuse area. An event done properly is an investment. It is comprised of various factors. After a failed convention season in 2004, I wasn't about to lead my company into a valiant flop.

So hard to keep lies straight and then the truth hidden when everything you've ever put online still exists somewhere Rick.

AIPman1
02-08-2012, 11:56 AM
And more and more, he is lumping events and people into one big group...not caring if they really did anything to him, just because they were AROUND, they are now against him, cause, well isnt EVERYONE that used to be around him, against him? He's completely over-generalized everything, trying to prove point A by showing example Q which brings up Point 32, which really had nothing to do with the original point. Instead of realizing that if he returned the maps, and started clearing things up with people, he MAY SOMEDAY be able to say he did actually do some good in the past...he is throwing that past directly into the mud of his present mess, where the good is being overwhelmed by the bad.

In other words: Rick Olney - shut the hell up and do the right thing.

I dont think he can let it go though. he has to PROVE his memories are better than reality. and so the WARP grows.

JTPencils
02-08-2012, 12:43 PM
From his "given away 700,000 books" days, given the time frame, he'd have to give away 200 comics per day every day. I'd bet good money he gave away his first 20 and then decided to keep doing it in his mind.

Nah... I say he gave away 70 comics, and then his sticky fat fingers got stuck on the 0 key, and he just kept yanking and tapping until it came unstuck... and then thought "Hey... that looks even BETTER! That'll show them!.."

J.R. LeMar
02-08-2012, 01:44 PM
And let's not forget, every time he brags about ORCA and the MightyMiniCon, he always stops @ the 2003 show that Gail went to. That was the last one. But, remember, he once tried to claim that he also had a 2007 convention:

July 5th 2007 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=5065101&postcount=35967)

We just had a Mighty Minicon that primarily involved over 45 attendees for a weekend of camping. The campfire stories mostly revolved about why those attending enjoyed the hobby of reading and collecting comics. Two retailers showed up, but they asked not to be identified publicly for fear of a "Tony Isabella Rant" against their stores or selves. Mr. Isabella has taken it upon himself the mission of ridding the world of Rick Olney. Unfortunately, some of the things that he attributes to Rick do not involve Rick alone. So, yeah, as this 2007 event was a private MMC made up of friends, supporters, and a few people that were curious ... it was, in our opinion, a success. So we're going to do it again next year. Pictures, btw, will be made public once the *new* www.mightyminicon.com website is finished.

We just had the 2007 Mighty MiniCon last weekend. It was moved to a private function when it became clear that some people following the YABS maven expressed interest in crashing it with intent to harass and malign. This yaers event only proved that such a camping comics experience CAN work where people have fun and enjoy themselves on another levels. And that is what might attract new readers into the activities associated with comic books and sequential art. So yes, it will happen again next year. Maybe others will try it? Just be sure to set it up at a local water park.

August 21 2007 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=5346267&postcount=37869)

The 2007 MMC was enough of a success that we'll be offering that feature again next year, only pushing the event date back a month or so. It actually turned out nice. I have pictures, but we're holding up on posting them until we drop the *new* MMC website.

And yet no pictures ever produced, and no *new* MMC website ever created. He most have lost all the info about that successful convention when he lost his old computer, which also contained all the artwork he got for TOTS #1, and all the information about who he owed money to. Luckily for him, he must have kept all the pictures from the 2003 Convention, as well as every single bit of press recognition that he and ORCA ever got, on a separate computer. That's why he's able to post those whenever he wants to.



Seriously, of everything he ever said, I always thought that was the most pathetic. I did have a convention, and a lot of people came, and we all great time! But I'm not going to show you any proof, because it's none of your business! So there!

Artful Angie
02-08-2012, 01:49 PM
HOLY CRAP AM I GLAD THIS THREAD ISN'T CLOSED YET!!!!!

So I just returned from Ravenswood, where I had a very interesting conversation with someone (let's call him Scott @ Ravenswood) regarding Rick.

Apparently, Rick has been in touch with several people who still take his call (I.E. they haven't been scammed by him that much...yet), and has put a "bounty" out on me!

To be specific, they said Rick is going around telling anyone in the area who'll listen that there will be "a substantial reward and benefit" to anyone who can tell him the real identity of "Artful Angie"!

When I asked if a specific amount was mentioned by Rick, Scott stated he hadn't heard of one. For all he knew Rick could mean a special blurb thanking them in the next issue of his APA!

Gosh, I thought Rick was going to spend a lot of money to get some P.I. to do this? Maybe he realized the only way a private investigator could find me out was by illegally obtaining my information from my Internet Service Provider, thus giving me one heck of a case against him for a federal crime.

Rick has finally lost it. He's so far out over the edge you'd need rappelling gear to get to him. It's sad to see him dribbelling over himself with all his bottled up frustration and failure at figuring it out.

It's been fun, Ricky Ticky Dumbass. I wish you had told people a dollar amount. If it was worth it, I might have told you myself! HAHAHAHA

Instead, keep your money, and your Fred Hembeck sketch or anything else you were going to spend to find out who I am. It's better that you spend the rest of your life trying to figure it out. And like everything else you've done in life...

Not succeeding.

Don Krick
02-08-2012, 01:51 PM
Maybe I am wrong, but I have my suspicions that Michael Malott may not be who we think he is. He had no Facebook page until after Rick brought him up on his blog. And I will say that I am not the only person with these suspicions.

J.R. LeMar
02-08-2012, 01:53 PM
And since my break @ work is almost over, and this will probably be locked by the time I get home tonight, one last thing that always struck me as ridiculous about him, and an insight into how his brain works, notice how whenever he talks about ORCA it’s always about how instrumental HE was in getting more kids into reading comics. He gave away thousands, organized meetings, and field trips, started special “comics in the classroom programs” and dedicated his life to enhancing “the hobby and business” of comics. He hates the term “fanboy” because he thinks that’s demeaning to comic-book fans. Plus, of course, he’s life’s dream of self-publishing his own comics. But then look how many times he’s tried to insult Gail (& Mark Waid, in the past) with, “All you do is write comic-books. You’re just a comic-book writer, that’s nothing. You’re not a real writer because you haven’t written novels, or TV, or movies” etc. So one hand he’s loves comics, but then tried to look down on those who make a living writing them. That’s almost has stupid as his attacks on other people’s physical appearance, as if he’s some sexy (zine)stud, who has the nerve to talk about anyone else.

Glenn Barbis Jr.
02-08-2012, 02:29 PM
And since my break @ work is almost over, and this will probably be locked by the time I get home tonight, one last thing that always struck me as ridiculous about him, and an insight into how his brain works, notice how whenever he talks about ORCA it’s always about how instrumental HE was in getting more kids into reading comics. He gave away thousands, organized meetings, and field trips, started special “comics in the classroom programs” and dedicated his life to enhancing “the hobby and business” of comics. He hates the term “fanboy” because he thinks that’s demeaning to comic-book fans. Plus, of course, he’s life’s dream of self-publishing his own comics. But then look how many times he’s tried to insult Gail (& Mark Waid, in the past) with, “All you do is write comic-books. You’re just a comic-book writer, that’s nothing. You’re not a real writer because you haven’t written novels, or TV, or movies” etc. So one hand he’s loves comics, but then tried to look down on those who make a living writing them. That’s almost has stupid as his attacks on other people’s physical appearance, as if he’s some sexy (zine)stud, who has the nerve to talk about anyone else.

It's that jealosy kicking in. People that despise him are working and successful in doing what he dreams of doing. And since he cannot do these things, thru mostly faults of his own, he must therefore look down on what they do. He wishes he could have a smidge of the success and accolades and respect that everyone else has worked hard for and earned, while he feels it should all just be given to him on a silver platter, with never a question to his talent or integrity.

Rick is and always will be is own worst enemy. Everything he wanted could have been accomplished with some hard work, owning up to his mistakes, and making ammends. Simple as that. But his ego, jealousy, and his feelings of "entitlement" won't ever allow that to happen.

And as a closing to this thread, I think back to Rick posting all those pictures of different creators, and especially his picture with Stan Lee, and how he talked they were all his friends and best buddys. I mentioned my getting my picture with many movie/TV/comic stars (and posted a pic of jack Black & I) but never once thinking they might even remember my name after they walked away. Rick then posted back about how Jack Black would never remember me and I was dumb to think he even cared about the picture, totally missing the point of the discussion/observation. Yes, to me, it was moment in time, that I'm sure was nothing to Jack Black. But Rick wouldn't see that his picture with Stan Lee was exactly the same thing. His mind won't let him face reality. He totally sees things how he wants to see them, and everything else is wrong or out to get him.

Add to that the fact I know many talented people in positions of noteriety, but I wouldn't think of dropping their names everywhere, to make myself look more important, or using their talents just because I could ask. Rick needs to name-drop every chance he gets to validate his, in his mind, importance and make himself out to be some big-shot, when he is just another nobody wannabe, who has alienated everyone who ever befriended him. He is in his own little bubble, where he is important and talented, and wonders why everyone else can't see it. Until he takes a long look in the mirror, and finally comes to understand that all his problems are brought on by himself, will he ever begin to change and grow as a human being.

But as we've seen over the past 15 years, that will never happen.

These threads have been a fun ride, and I'm grateful for the friends and aquaintances I've made thru them! See all of you folks elsewhere!

Don Krick
02-08-2012, 02:43 PM
I have to apologize for insinuating that Michael Malott was Rick. I just had a video chat with him and I am convinced that he is genuine.

Outsider
02-08-2012, 02:48 PM
Maybe I am wrong, but I have my suspicions that Michael Malott may not be who we think he is. He had no Facebook page until after Rick brought him up on his blog. And I will say that I am not the only person with these suspicions.

When I look at his page, he has wall postings going back at least as far as December 1, 2011- that's as far back as I looked.

ETA: Sorry, I made this post while you were making the post above it.

Gail Simone
02-08-2012, 02:51 PM
And since my break @ work is almost over, and this will probably be locked by the time I get home tonight, one last thing that always struck me as ridiculous about him, and an insight into how his brain works, notice how whenever he talks about ORCA it’s always about how instrumental HE was in getting more kids into reading comics. He gave away thousands, organized meetings, and field trips, started special “comics in the classroom programs” and dedicated his life to enhancing “the hobby and business” of comics. He hates the term “fanboy” because he thinks that’s demeaning to comic-book fans. Plus, of course, he’s life’s dream of self-publishing his own comics. But then look how many times he’s tried to insult Gail (& Mark Waid, in the past) with, “All you do is write comic-books. You’re just a comic-book writer, that’s nothing. You’re not a real writer because you haven’t written novels, or TV, or movies” etc. So one hand he’s loves comics, but then tried to look down on those who make a living writing them. That’s almost has stupid as his attacks on other people’s physical appearance, as if he’s some sexy (zine)stud, who has the nerve to talk about anyone else.


I honestly think he believes I will be insulted to be called a comic book writer, which is so dipshit stupid it's hard to even laugh at.

I LOVE being a comic book writer. Are you kidding me? Do you know how rare it is to have an exclusive writing contract at either of the major companies? There are only a couple of handfuls of people in that situation in the ENTIRE WORLD.

Here's what my job is.

I get to think of lovely stories featuring my favorite characters of all time. I get to share my love for those characters with readers all over the globe. And, I get to work with the best artists going.
I've worked with Dan DeCarlo, Michael Golden, Ed Benes, Nicola Scott, Jill Thompson, George Perez, John Byrne, Ardian Syaf, Ethan Van Sciver, Jose Garcia Lopez, Dick Giordano, Mike Norton, Klaus Jansen,
and dozens more. Every day when I open my email, I have art from AMAZING artists drawing MY stories and making them better than I could ever have imagined.

I've gotten to write the Simpsons, Batgirl, the Justice League, the Legion of Super-heroes, Deadpool, the Blackhawks, Wonder Woman, Superman, the Birds of Prey, and the freaking SPIRIT, for god's sake.
I've gotten to write my own characters, co-created with brilliant artists like Lea Hernandez and Neil Googe.

I've gotten to travel the world and meet creators from different countries on many different continents. I've gotten to meet the most wonderful readers, people who have touched my heart forever.

I've gotten to use my tiny bit of comic book fame to support causes I believe in, like the C.B.L.D.F. and Hero Initiative. And I've gotten to spearhead fundraising benefits for many creators in need,
after illnesses and natural disasters. I got to write tribute pieces for two books raising money for 9/11 causes.

And best of all, I get to tell stories, which is what I love to do.

"Just" a comic book writer?

Are you kidding me?

This is the best job in the WORLD.

Gail Simone
02-08-2012, 02:52 PM
I have to apologize for insinuating that Michael Malott was Rick. I just had a video chat with him and I am convinced that he is genuine.

It's okay, Rick's been busted for sock puppets before.

Gail Simone
02-08-2012, 02:54 PM
It's also funny how he keeps trying to pretend I made up these letters by people like Rich Carlin and Al Luchador.

Rick, how in GOD's name would I know these people? How would I know their stories with you?

Here's a little idea.

ASK them YOURSELF.

KJ!
02-08-2012, 04:40 PM
''"It was a pleasant surprise to see and hear a personal shout-out to "The Oracle of ORCA" in the recently released Marvel Iron Man II film. Anyone keen enough to spot the segment of Tony Stark exiting the Stark Expo to greet fans and catch a glimpse of Stan Lee will also see an actor (sporting a beard and mustache) answering to Stark's greeting of, "Hey! The oracle of ORCA!", as said individual, sporting a somewhat familiar look (seen on the staircase) replies, "What a pleasure. Nice to see you. Call me." to Stark.

Hahahaha! I suppose I owe a bit of a thank you to script writer, Justin Theroux. So Thank you, sir! The mention of ORCA will help in our Fall 2010 new website premiere.

Overall, I enjoyed Iron Man II and its always nice to see Larry King (Stan Lee) on film."''

Glenn Barbis Jr.
02-08-2012, 05:01 PM
"It is a little known fact that I was able to get Todd McFarlane to acknowledge the existence of (ORCA) Organized Readers of Comics Associated by informing him of a situation I had with the mother of a younger member of our group.

I had been contacted by this irrate woman over the fact that her 10 year old son had gotten a selection of free comics from us, within that bunch, a copy of SPAWN. In fact, the youngster requested it! She was upset with the general 'look' of the book. Upon further discussion, she told me she had not bothered to read the issue in question.

Since we were talking over the telephone, I placed her on hold long enough to look into what exactly her son had shared with me regarding his reading habits and requests.

I then, upon taking her off hold, asked her to READ the issue in question. I also alerted her to the fact that her efforts in buying "Little Jimmy" some of the SPAWN toys had perked his interest in the actual comic book.

Did it end there? No. She called me back several days later, apologizing, and sharing with me that she was wrong, having had enjoyed the story. I didn't 'convert' her ... I merely helped her to discover reason.

Upon hearing this, Todd was nice enough to honor our group by creating a hitman character named "ORCA" in issue #46 (or was that #47? The memory is the first to leave you) Anyway - Just thought I'd share that with you all.

Personally - As far as I'm concerned ... Todd can keep making toys forever!

RICK"

http://w.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=284616&page=1

Glenn Barbis Jr.
02-08-2012, 05:04 PM
"Yeah, it was pretty unbelieveable for me at first. And it happened kind of funny like, because I had gotten a request to send some comics via my connection then to ORCA (Organized Readers of Comics Associated) from SkyWalker Ranch to a kid's cancer benefit. So after sending out like 3000, I got a thank you letter signed by George that also instructed me to go see the film.

At that time, a friend of mine was also dealing with brain cancer and he was a huge Star Wars and sports figure geek and collector. He really wanted to go to see the film, and his wife and oldest daughter were both nurses ... so the four of us went. Now, I never figured on anything other than maybe a credit in the end film credits. And that would've been cool enough ... but those credits were the smallest and fastest rolling I'd ever seen. So I dismissed the whole matter. My friend, Steve...he died a few weeks later. But we enjoyed that film together and I'm glad to have seen it with him.

Now a bunch of weeks pass... and I'm in Toys R Us looking for a birthday present for my oldest grandson. As I'm like most comic book readers, I walk down through the action figure aisle ... and I'm looking at all the Episode One figures on display. Then I spot it! Looking up I see the starship captain figure that wasn't identified by name in the film. The name "Ric Olie" is just too much a coincidence and then it all comes together. It was George's way of thanking me. Like "Ric Olie" giving young Anakin Skywalker his first flying lesson, I had been giving kids (and kids with cancer via Lucas' charity event) their first comic books. That's what ORCA did. We pumped comics into schools, hospitals, and we created some of the first library outreach efforts to put comics and sequentially driven books on library shelves as early as 1994. Our free comics giving away efforts actually pre-date Diamond's FCBD efforts. And truth further be told, my contacts with Diamond back then heavily touted our efforts with suggestions for getting them to work with us in placing comics even on the slightly damaged, yet readable level, places where ORCA had tread. Then Joe Field and Diamond created FCBD. Were those things related? I don't know. Most of us that worked within ORCA at the time thought so, and it was a good thing.

Anyway, I bought all those "Ric Olie" figures that day. And I later found out from a toy collector/dealer that of the two most rare figures of that film were the "Rick Olie" one and a Queen Amadala figure in some different, more elaborate costume. 'Course, my love of Star Wars and all things George Lucas has never waned."

**Notice in this quote Rick states he sent 3000 comics to a cancer benefit on request from Skywalker Ranch. 3000...in one shipment! How much did that cost, I wonder???**

**Also notice he just assumed he would get only a credit in the film. What color is the sky in Olney World???**

Glenn Barbis Jr.
02-08-2012, 05:56 PM
ORCA's Tax Deductible Status
http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=453050

Not Enough People Wishing Rick happy Birthday Is Ruining Comics
http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=280510

Rick won't heed the words that he is doing harm to ORCA's reputation
http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=444609


Rick responds on the use of "Fanboy"

"Edwyn--
Why is it so hard to understand?

Stereotypic namecalling under ANY circumstances is WRONG! Have I called you names? No. Will I? No. Nor will back off on this topic. Those of you that CLING to this type of behavior of 'tagging' other comic book readers are IGNORANT. Clear cut, plain and simple!

If there are people reading comic books that want to be known as "fanboys" or "fangirls" ... fantastic ... they can wallow in it. THAT doesn't necessarily mean that the word is socially acceptable. If your ethnic origin is anything other than caucasian. You have not a clue what it's like to be treated or looked at as such. The same can be said of being gay, ... or in being one of those younger readers that fits this concocted image. Isn't it NAMECALLING? Well - Isn't it?

I'm for real ... I just wish I was ignorant and unkind enough to inspire a name for the other segments of fandom and the industry. Something that younger readers could grab a hold of and put in YOUR face while you're trying to enjoy this hobby. Or maybe you actually WORK in the comics industry. If so, please don't tell me...

Is the name "fanboy" so endearing that it can't be forgotten? ... Or is there a chance that as MORE people leave this consumership we'll smarten up to the smallest of reasons as to what helped drive them away?

Chew on that!

"Yeah, you got me on the remark about "fighting fire with fire" ... but namecalling has never been something I've embraced. So I'd rather NOT join them!
http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=279901&page=3
**Also of note, it was later proven that Rick had posted as "Thomas Paine99" in response to his posts.**

Rick talks more of ORCA and states 106,000 comics given away since 1993 (posted 1999)
http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=447939&page=1

More ORCA talk
http://comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=448868&page=2

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-08-2012, 06:08 PM
**Notice in this quote Rick states he sent 3000 comics to a cancer benefit on request from Skywalker Ranch. 3000...in one shipment! How much did that cost, I wonder???**

**Also notice he just assumed he would get only a credit in the film. What color is the sky in Olney World???**
Here's something to go along with that. Rick told the story of Ric Olie many times as you know and here is another. Notice in this one he says he gave them only 3 long boxes. So forget the cost to ship, the real question is how did Rick fit 1000 books into each box when I can only get 250-300 in mine.



It was back in 1996, when I got contacted by Skywalker Ranch regarding a children's Cancer benefit that had plans to have. ORCA had a system that allowed it to buy and gather, along with taking in donations, a number of comic books to give away freely. Skywalker Ranch was simply asking for a donation of comic books. So I packed up three long boxes and sent them out to them. I also sent them copies of our newsletter, Fresh.

Fresh was distributed freely at comic book events, mailed to industry types, and we got some nice notice from within fandom and the comic book entertainment industry for our efforts with it.

Meanwhile, someone at Skywalker Ranch decided to thank me for what I was doing in a rather unique way. Taking to heart that I believed then as I believe now regarding kids reading comic books being good all the way around for the hobby and this industry. And, I can only guess looking into my bold claims about ORCA and our goals to put the comic book in schools, libraries, and places where kids couldn't help BUT find them ... My name was altered slightly and bestowed upon a character that rescued Queen Amidala, her court, a couple of well known Jedi Knights, and a young man that would one day grow up to be the greatest starship pilot to traverse the Lucas universe. And where did young Anakin Skywalker get his first starship piloting lesson. Why... from Ric Olie, of course! Kind of like me giving away all those free comic books to kids to foster healthier younger reader reading habits.

Glenn Barbis Jr.
02-08-2012, 06:17 PM
NotLarry...also in that story, he says "someone at Skywalker Ranch decided to thank me...in a rather unique way." Notice he doesn't say George Lucas himself. Methinks that's because this was a later version of the story, and people now knowing more about how to use the internet, made him downgrade the story somewhat. An unknown person at Skywalker Ranch is harder to track down than George Lucas himself.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-08-2012, 06:31 PM
NotLarry...also in that story, he says "someone at Skywalker Ranch decided to thank me...ina rather unique way." Notice he doesn't say George Lucas himself. methinks that because this was a later version of the story, and people now knowing more about how to use the internet, made him downgrade the story somewhat. An unknown person at Skywalker Ranch is harder to track down than George Lucas himself.
Another big hole in his story just jumped out at me from reading the story you posted.

Rick claims in that story he saw the Ric Olie figure while looking for a birthday present for his oldest grandson. That he went there a few weeks after... I can't tell if weeks after his friend died, or seeing the movie, or both. We can assume though a month or two after the movie came out right? Well Phantom Menace came out in May 1999 so I'd put his Toys R Us story at summer 1999 at the latest.

In Rick's introduction post at CBR written in May 2004, he states he has a 4 year old grandson. So Rick's grandson was born in 2000. How was he shopping for a birthday present for him in 1999?

leftwingnutcase
02-08-2012, 07:02 PM
Another big hole in his story just jumped out at me from reading the story you posted.

Rick claims in that story he saw the Ric Olie figure while looking for a birthday present for his oldest grandson. That he went there a few weeks after... I can't tell if weeks after his friend died, or seeing the movie, or both. We can assume though a month or two after the movie came out right? Well Phantom Menace came out in May 1999 so I'd put his Toys R Us story at summer 1999 at the latest.

In Rick's introduction post at CBR written in May 2004, he states he has a 4 year old grandson. So Rick's grandson was born in 2000. How was he shopping for a birthday present for him in 1999?

If there is anything I have to say about Mr. Olney at this time, it is that he is quite batshit, and one should avoid him at all costs.

KJ!
02-08-2012, 08:16 PM
<< Avid toy collector.

This just annoys me. I'm being anal, I know, but it annoys me EVERY time I see it.

Ric Olie was THE biggest pegwarmer of the episode 1 line (Even though stores got in tonnes of Darth Mauls due to demand, there was just as many Olie's to be found).

Shops couldn't even get rid of that figure for a DOLLAR. Yep, that many.

The figure was NEVER rare, EVER.

At launch, there was a tonne left over. They just kept getting more and more on restocks, that just weren't moving.

So he's completely wrong about that. Laughably wrong.

It wasn't just A pegwarmer, it was THE pegwarmer.

He also wouldn't be 'credited' anyway, as even if we take what he says at face value about the donation, it had NOTHING to do with the film. A credit for him would have made NO sense.

And when did he donate these books? I'd love to see the EXACT date. I bet dollars to donuts the character was named well before Olney claims his donation was.

MacQuarrie
02-08-2012, 09:02 PM
Shops couldn't even get rid of that figure for a DOLLAR. Yep, that many.
Still true. A quick check of Ebay (http://www.ebay.com/csc/i.html?LH_Complete=1&_trkparms=65%253A13%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&rt=nc&_nkw=ric+olie+action+figure&_trksid=p3286.c0.m2000018.l2552&_pgn=1), searching for "Ric Olie action figure" and viewing completed listings, shows a whole lot of unsold items, many of them priced at $.99. They can't give this toy away.

KJ!
02-08-2012, 09:03 PM
ORCA's Tax Deductible Status
http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=453050

Not Enough People Wishing Rick happy Birthday Is Ruining Comics
http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=280510

Rick won't heed the words that he is doing harm to ORCA's reputation
http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=444609


Rick responds on the use of "Fanboy"


http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=279901&page=3
**Also of note, it was later proven that Rick had posted as "Thomas Paine99" in response to his posts.**

Rick talks more of ORCA and states 106,000 comics given away since 1993 (posted 1999)
http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=447939&page=1

More ORCA talk
http://comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=448868&page=2

Dennis' response to the number of comics given away is interesting.

''Good Googly Moogly! Has it been THAT many books? To me, this is a most impressive show of support for our oft-troubled hobby.

Think about it, gang...ONE HUNDRED SIX THOUSAND free comics.

Rick...you da man!''



That doesn't sound like he had a CLUE about the amounts.

Sorry, but IMO that means his statement about the numbers is invalid.


PS Rick Olney - You Are A FAILURE, who will never be ANYTHING other than a FANBOY-wannabe.

THE_DAREDIVA
02-08-2012, 10:22 PM
To the folks I've had the pleasure of meeting here and back on the YABS forum: thank you for the fun times.

To Richard Olney II: Forget you!

KJ!
02-08-2012, 11:37 PM
Congratulations and thank you, to those who helped the Olney victims, and did their best to ensure there would be as few more as possible.

You guys have done a wonderful thing, and achieved a lot.

Tomorrow, Olney goes into the halls of obscurity, to be laughed at all the louder.

But make no mistake, Olney. We will be watching.

Just because there's no active thread, doesn't mean we'll be complacent.

We'll be watching. We'll be honest. We'll be there.

Gail Simone
02-09-2012, 01:34 AM
Yes, thank you so much, everyone. I have a final message, but it's going to be a little bit late due to some rewrites I have to settle. But in a few hours, we will be shutting down.

Thank you to everyone who helped keep this person from dragging more people into his delusion schemes, and helped keep more people from getting stiffed for work rendered.

There's no question that you saved a lot of people a lot of heartache by keeping the facts fresh in people's minds.

I won't miss talking about Rick, I'm completely sick of him and his disgusting excuses and repulsive behavior towards the many, many people he's cheated.

There are other people, lots of them, keeping an eye out, good luck to them.

KJ!
02-09-2012, 03:04 AM
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/mohawk-ny/TEQ396LL1OVJAE4A1

One of those Topix threads. Found the link for it while going through old material.

Olney states: ''Sep 3, 2010

I'm from Mohawk actually. And I would tell "Here It Is" right to his face what I think of him. But he wouldn't have the guts to come to me and say it to mine. He's a coward who likes to come onto Topix and write about how everybody's an idiot and stupid for saying things, and feels he needs to bully us with "You people are committing slander and I'm telling Mom on you!!!!"

I'm in publishing, and I know what it's like to have someone try to silence you for what you believe in.

Get a life "Here It Is".
''


And this one: '' OrcaFresh wrote:
Aww. Did I hurt your widdle feelings, dumbfuck? Because you wanted to coming rolling into the forum boards and be the new sheriff who cleans it up by telling us how bad we are and you're just the man to put us in our place? With your little "food for thought" comment posted after all the "just postings of articles posted by others".
No wonder people won't go to your store for fear of being anally raped by you. LOL''


You can see other posts that were deleted of his.

Which book in the Bible used the word 'dumbfuck' again?

Physician, heal thyself! (And please heal thy anal fixation. It's REALLY disturbing)

AIPman1
02-09-2012, 03:09 AM
Take care folks. Remember: Eye on the prize, the prize being reason and logic always outweigh smoke and mirrors, and that is all Olney is. He's the great OZ, found out behind the drape, pulling strings frantically trying to keep his ruse alive. And even as we are looking at him, saying, WE SEE YOU, he keeps pulling the strings going "No! I am great and wonderful, worship me!"

Pathetic.

See you all around in reality.

Tom Stillwell
02-09-2012, 04:37 AM
I wanted to post a few very simple ways to keep yourself from getting screwed by folks like Rick within the comic industry.

1. Be sure to search GOOGLE before you enter into any agreement with a party you don't personally know. Plugging their name into an internet search is a quick and easy way to save yourself a lot of trouble in the long run.

2. Don't be bullied into a signing a contract that isn't in your best interest. It's better to walk away then get stuck in a bad deal.

3. Keep contracts simple. A good contract contains clearly defined objectives for each party spelling out exactly what is required and what will be the pay off for fulfillment.

4. If all else fails and you find yourself stuck in a situation of non-payment, don't be afraid to let the legal system work for you. Lawsuits, courts and judges can seem scary but they are simply tools you can use to help yourself. Filing a small claims suit is typically easy and inexpensive. You don't need a lawyer. Present your evidence and let the judge decide. It is just that simple.

In the end, using common sense will keep your safe 99% of the time. Be smart, my friends.

THEDOC
02-09-2012, 05:50 AM
I wanted to post a few very simple ways to keep yourself from getting screwed by folks like Rick within the comic industry.

1. Be sure to search GOOGLE before you enter into any agreement with a party you don't personally know. Plugging their name into an internet search is a quick and easy way to save yourself a lot of trouble in the long run.

2. Don't be bullied into a signing a contract that isn't in your best interest. It's better to walk away then get stuck in a bad deal.

3. Keep contracts simple. A good contract contains clearly defined objectives for each party spelling out exactly what is required and what will be the pay off for fulfillment.

4. If all else fails and you find yourself stuck in a situation of non-payment, don't be afraid to let the legal system work for you. Lawsuits, courts and judges can seem scary but they are simply tools you can use to help yourself. Filing a small claims suit is typically easy and inexpensive. You don't need a lawyer. Present your evidence and let the judge decide. It is just that simple.

In the end, using common sense will keep your safe 99% of the time. Be smart, my friends.

Thanks for posting that advise again.
This has been a great thread. Fandom has been better for it.

MacQuarrie
02-09-2012, 06:04 AM
A couple more:

Always remember, if it sounds too good to be true, it almost certainly is. Somebody is offering you top dollar to draw their comic: why? Always ask why.

Flattery will get you screwed. Keep an honest and accurate view of yourself and your talent, and don't buy it when somebody starts telling you how great you are. Odds are they want something.

Business is business. Develop a set of business policies for yourself and don't deviate from them, not even for your mom, but more importantly, not for some guy who is buttering you up and trying to be your bestest pal.

Don't pay attention to how he treats you; he wants something from you. How does he treat people he doesn't want anything from?

Never ever think "well, I've gone this far, I have to see it through." You don't. There's no reason to dig yourself in deeper in hopes of recovering what you've lost. Cut your losses. Get out at the first sign that something is amiss. A contract is not a deed of ownership.

Look for a track record. If the guy has never done anything on his own, odds are he wants you to do all the work while he gets the credit and money.

Those are just some general principles we've learned from Olney.

KJ!
02-09-2012, 06:06 AM
I hope you guys realise all the positives that have happened as a result of this thread.

Sure, we've squabbled, we've disagreed, but at the end of the day, it was all about saving people from being put through the misery of dealing with a con artist and scammer.

As to what has been gotten out of this for yourself? It's given me a HELL of a lot of respect for people and their tireless efforts. I don't want to name names, as I know I'd miss someone. But you guys hopefully know who you are.

I certainly have learned from this thread, and the behaviour of the stand-up members of this community.

Thank you for caring enough about others to spend your own free-time helping protect them.

THEDOC
02-09-2012, 06:09 AM
I'm thinking it might be a good idea to put all these posts from people he's cheated together in one place, so that when he's looking for fresh victims, it will still be there.

Mind if I put these on my IF Site under the Fandom History Section?

J.R. LeMar
02-09-2012, 06:15 AM
Sheesh, it's like this thread just won't die.;)

Okay, well last post will be this: http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/rick-olney-vs-scott-reed/ The story of Rick Olney's business dealings with Scott Reed. Out of all the other posts I put together, this one seems like the simplest one that illustrates who Rick Olney is. And it's easy to follow. It includes all the links, so you can read Olney's own words for yourself. Olney makes an accusation against Reed. Reed goes to court, and wins by default because Olney didn't show up or make any effort to contact the court in question (which he could've done if, for example, he claimed he didn't have access to getting to that court). Olney then claims he didn't go because he was "advised against it" (although he never says exactly who "advised" him, or why). And then Olney continues to claim that Reed is liar, and then claims multiple times over the next few weeks, that he's going to have that judgment against him over-turned, and will be filing fraud charges against Reed in a State Civil (or possibly Criminal) Court.

But he never does.

Then a few years later, under pressure from a credit collection agency, Olney makes a grand announcement that he's made arraignments to pay the debt (this is after continuing to call Reed a liar), and then finally makes one payment (almost two months late, and for a less amount that his first payment was supposed to be), and publicly declares that things will continue to move in "a positive direction" (he also makes claims of having paid off several other artists who he owed money to, although he refuses to name them, and none of them ever came forward to say he paid them).

And then he never makes any further payments to Reed.

Months later, he then defiantly declares the he will not pay Reed any more money, and that he never intended to pay it off. He calls that one payment he made a "legal maneuver" and a "pity payment" and then continues over the next few months to call Reed names, and mock him about the debt. That sums it all up. That's Rick Olney aka Richard Olney II for you. The man who continuously talks about his attorney, and legal action and lawsuits that he's going to file, yet when an actual legal case is brought against him, he has no defense. He says he can prove everything he says, which is very easy to say on a blog, but when it's time to prove his claims in a court of law, he runs and hides.

The next best example is the one about the ongoing saga of Matt Busch: http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/rick-olney-vs-matt-busch/ That one's not as simple, because it's longer, so some folks may just glaze over it, TL DR, but near the end you can see where Olney claimed, more than once, that he had no tricks in mind, he was simple standing by the original agreement that he would sell the maps he could during the time-frame of the convention, and then give the rest back to Busch. He said "I'm a man of my word," and we would all see that after last Nov. 15th.

And then, suddenly, he just changes his mind (so much for being a man of his word). He won't give them back to Busch, unless Busch apologizes to him (I doubt that was in the contract, so what right does he think he has to make demands). And now he's claiming he just won't give them back to Busch @ all, and will only return them to LucasFilm, if they ever contact him, and is still offering to sell the maps, even though by his own admission he only had a limited time to do that, which has passed. Meanwhile, no veterans charity has been supported by the sale of these maps, which could have been done months ago, if they'd been returned to their rightful owner. So who's really being hurt by this? Remember THAT, next time Rick Olney brags about being a Proud Honorably Discharged Marine.

Seriously, how anyone can read the above actions, and still take Rick Olney's side, and agree to work with or for him, is beyond me.

leftwingnutcase
02-09-2012, 06:46 AM
Rick, you have a severe set of mental illnesses. Please seek help before something really bad happens. I worry for your life.

Thank you all, my friends, for your great public service! I will miss this. You know how to reach me!

Alec Frazier, aka LeftWingNutcase, aka Queer Duck

Artful Angie
02-09-2012, 09:17 AM
I just logged Facebook and was delighted to see Frank Mazzaferro and Dennis Yee decided to REJOIN ORCA. I'll be finishing off my requests to join with the rest of the names that do exist. A curiously strange number of those names don't seem to be on Facebook.

And of course, Rick's back into his cycle of meltdown then hiding out. How is anyone supposed to collect their "substantial reward and benefit" if he's hiding? Or is he hiding because now he owes someone else money and doesn't intend to pay?

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-09-2012, 09:49 AM
I've never joined the two Facebook groups because my Facebook is under my name and I only have family and friends I know in person. However for future knowledge in case I decide I want to join, before this thread gets closed can I get a brief, "This is what our group is about" about both pages so I can decide if the benefits would outweigh any negatives.

Right now the ORCA page seems like a place to say what comics you like, ask questions about comics and generally is like any comic book site I'm already on. However it's a different group of people so the opinions are new and I may be able to have interesting conversations. The Rick Olney is A... page seems to be this thread, just on Facebook which I have no interest seeing. However I could be seeing it wrong from an outside view.

J.R. LeMar
02-09-2012, 01:44 PM
The Rick Olney is A... page seems to be this thread, just on Facebook which I have no interest seeing.

I am really hoping that it does not turn out to be that. If it’s just a place for folks to give their side of their dealings with Olney, that’s a good resource, like all the other various blogs and links out there are. As it was noted, Facebook is the biggest social platform on the net, so it’s good to have the info there, in addition to Twitter, Blogger, Wordpress, Tumblr, etc., where most potential victims can see it and be warned. I just hope that, especially once this thread is finally locked, certain folks can control their impulse to want to comment on and respond to every single post Olney makes on his blogs, or else it will just turn into a continuation of this thread, and giving Olney the attention he wants.

HamsterRage
02-09-2012, 02:55 PM
I agree with you both, I would also suggest titling the Rick Olney group with the title of Tony's Letter. "a warning to comic professionals about Rick Olney"

Matt Doc Martin
02-09-2012, 03:05 PM
I agree with you both, I would also suggest titling the Rick Olney group with the title of Tony's Letter. "a warning to comic professionals about Rick Olney"

Seconded.

And link the letter.

J.R. LeMar
02-09-2012, 03:17 PM
Thirded. It would make it clear to anyone who comes across the group, pro or amateur, that the group is specifically about the comic-book industry, otherwise why would they even check, if they don’t know who Rick Olney is? And I think Leftwingnutcase already posted the contents of my version of the letter on the site.

Matt Doc Martin
02-09-2012, 03:24 PM
Thirded. It would make it clear to anyone who comes across the group, pro or amateur, that the group is specifically about the comic-book industry, otherwise why would they even check, if they don’t know who Rick Olney is? And I think Leftwingnutcase already posted the contents of my version of the letter on the site.

Hope it is front and center, along with link to stuff you posted.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-09-2012, 03:50 PM
I just logged Facebook and was delighted to see Frank Mazzaferro and Dennis Yee decided to REJOIN ORCA. I'll be finishing off my requests to join with the rest of the names that do exist. A curiously strange number of those names don't seem to be on Facebook.
In addition to waiting on an explanation of what the two Facebook groups are about, I just reread this post.

Are you using the membership list of ORCA names Rick posted to track people down on Facebook? Perhaps I am reading that wrong and you previously knew the people you contacted. My privacy is very important to me for the welfare of my daughter. So while I like the idea of the new ORCA group, randomly contacting people would not be something I'd like to be apart of.

J.R. LeMar
02-09-2012, 04:03 PM
I still think it’s a mistake to try to use the ORCA name anyway. Nevertheless, perhaps you could discuss this aspect with him via PM. I’m feeling this is getting distracting again. As this thread comes to its close, we wanted the last posts in it to be specifically about Rick Olney, for the benefit of new folks who come here in the future, who likely only skim the beginning and the end of the thread. Hopefully, whatever Gail’s planned final message is will cover all the basics.

leftwingnutcase
02-09-2012, 04:07 PM
I have retitled the FB Group "A Warning to Creative Professionals about RICK OLNEY"

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-09-2012, 04:13 PM
I agree it's distracting J.R in the sense that it's not about Rick. However if I ask my question in PM, the answer is then not able to be seen by others who may also want to know what the groups are about and such. I'll refrain from posting again unless it's Rick related. If my questions get answered I'll then PM if I have a follow up.

I think we did a great job of having a whole bunch of posts in a row strictly about Rick when the thread was supposed to be closed on the weekend. As it has been moved until tonight, maybe someone could just go back and repost a bunch of the posts from lets say the last 5 pages? Perhaps Gail could give an hour countdown to when the thread will be locked? Then with that heads up, I'd be happy to repost the posts like the ones linking to your page, the posts with Outsider's screen caps, etc to make certain the last posts are all focused on Rick.

HamsterRage
02-09-2012, 04:31 PM
I still think it’s a mistake to try to use the ORCA name anyway. Nevertheless, perhaps you could discuss this aspect with him via PM. I’m feeling this is getting distracting again. As this thread comes to its close, we wanted the last posts in it to be specifically about Rick Olney, for the benefit of new folks who come here in the future, who likely only skim the beginning and the end of the thread. Hopefully, whatever Gail’s planned final message is will cover all the basics.

I again agree with this... ORCA has negative equity at best. Keep the name to keep Olney from using it but place it under the umbrella of a new organization.

Artful Angie
02-09-2012, 04:56 PM
Like I had said before, and was agreed on by Gail and Jim, I'd like to use the ORCA name for now only to rehabilitate it into something good. I even stated sometime later this year we should agree upon a new name for it. Does anyone have any suggestions? (Beause I agree, naming a comic club after a whale is really, really dumb!)

As far as looking for old ORCA members from Rick's list, I have in fact been politely and respectfully sending PMs to any of the past membership, asking them if they were still involved in comics, asking them if they would like to friend me, and asking them if they were interested in rejoining ORCA, sans Rick.

One of the recent comments on here was Gail pointing out how Rick keeps clinging to the one letter from a former member and we never hear from any others. Rick provided us with a tool to change that: a list of past ORCA members we've never heard from. I ask them if they do not wish to be further disturbed then I apologize. But if they would like to friend me and look at the Facebook pages and weigh in, they are very welcome. I also make it clear we are NOT affiliated with Rick. It's their choice, and the ones that chose to add on to the friends list I welcome. I consider that totally fair to do.

leftwingnutcase
02-09-2012, 05:01 PM
Like I had said before, and was agreed on by Gail and Jim, I'd like to use the ORCA name for now only to rehabilitate it into something good. I even stated sometime later this year we should agree upon a new name for it. Does anyone have any suggestions? (Beause I agree, naming a comic club after a whale is really, really dumb!)

As far as looking for old ORCA members from Rick's list, I have in fact been politely and respectfully sending PMs to any of the past membership, asking them if they were still involved in comics, asking them if they would like to friend me, and asking them if they were interested in rejoining ORCA, sans Rick.

One of the recent comments on here was Gail pointing out how Rick keeps clinging to the one letter from a former member and we never hear from any others. Rick provided us with a tool to change that: a list of past ORCA members we've never heard from. I ask them if they do not wish to be further disturbed then I apologize. But if they would like to friend me and look at the Facebook pages and weigh in, they are very welcome. I also make it clear we are NOT affiliated with Rick. It's their choice, and the ones that chose to add on to the friends list I welcome. I consider that totally fair to do.

So, Ang, how's it going with NFP status?

scs
02-09-2012, 05:07 PM
Which book in the Bible used the word 'dumbfuck' again?That would be Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal (http://www.amazon.com/Lamb-Special-Gift-According-Childhood/dp/0061438596/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1328839318&sr=1-1) by Christopher Moore. The relevant quote about the dumbfucks can be seen about halfway down the page here. (http://52churches.garriber.org/?p=1715)

Gail Simone
02-09-2012, 05:26 PM
I'm fine with people having as much discussion as they like, but please be aware that some posts that will be obsolete may get deleted to keep the relevant stuff up here near the end, okay? Thanks!

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-09-2012, 05:55 PM
I'm fine with people having as much discussion as they like, but please be aware that some posts that will be obsolete may get deleted to keep the relevant stuff up here near the end, okay? Thanks!
Thank you Gail. I don't want to post too many times though since it will create more work for you/whoever has to remove all the obsolete posts. So I will use this post for a few things so it's easier to delete later.

One is Rick has a post blathering away on Sequential Soul. The only thing of note is his claims to have about $1000 worth of statues ordered. Not sure if you are still getting screen caps of him talking about spending money when he owes so much already in court cases.

Two, after the, "Rick Olney is A" group was renamed, it now no longer shows up in a Facebook search if you look up Rick's name as far as I can tell. It also is listed as a closed group where the membership can be seen but not the posts. So new people, the people who need to see the warnings from the group won't have access to that.

Lastly, Rick amusingly posted a MMC review from 2003 to show how great it was. I wonder if he read it because the review says there was one panel with only 10 audience members. Another panel with 9 people on the panel and only 1 person in the crowd. It's laughable how Rick often posts things that make him look bad when he's convinced himself how good he looks.

J.R. LeMar
02-09-2012, 06:00 PM
As far as looking for old ORCA members from Rick's list, I have in fact been politely and respectfully sending PMs to any of the past membership, asking them if they were still involved in comics, asking them if they would like to friend me, and asking them if they were interested in rejoining ORCA, sans Rick.

I don't see anything wrong with that @ all (& y'all know I've been a critic of some of Angie's behavior on this forum in the past, so I'd be the first say so if it was). Clearly MyNameIsNotLarry is extremely careful about his privacy, but I don't see this has any kind of unusual invasion or whatever. Looking up people on Facebook is pretty much what Facebook is for. You join and then you look up you know, or used to know, or want to get to know, you send a request, and they accept it or not. For all the criticism people make about FB privacy, I think they actually have pretty good privacy controls. You can set your profile so nobody can see it you don't want them to, you can even set it so they kind find you through search. So Angie has list of alleged ORCA members and he looks them up to see if they want to join the new one. Unless he's continually harassing anyone who says no, I don't see a problem.

And if part of Gail's plan is to delete irrelevant posts in thread, including this one, that is a good idea. If that could be done with the entire thread, that would be awesome, but I doubt that's possible.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-09-2012, 06:05 PM
Here's a story of Rick cheating someone I don't recall being posted here. It was on the YABS thread originally.



In 2001 ( I can't narrow it down anymore than that) Rick frequented the "Launchpad" section of the message boards at www.figma.com (http://www.figma.com/)
. He'd been around for a few months and was tolerated and hadn't really had a big flame up with anyone. I knew nothing of him other than his posts there.

He contacted me by email stating that he wanted to buy a couple of pin-ups I had listed for sale on my personal web site. The two pics together might have cost about $40. He said he also wanted to commision a picture from me as a gift for a friend. He told me he wanted something specific involving a female superhero in the nude.

I didn't then and still don't normally do those type pics (and didn't really want to do it), so I quoted him a price of $100, which I figured he'd balk at. With me being a complete unknown at the time (now I'm a semi-unknown) I thought he'd never agree to it.

Well, he did, so I went ahead and did the work since he agreed to the price I quoted him. I don't recall any NDA's being involved. I completed the pic and sent him a low rez scan for approval and he said it was fine and he'd send payment. Altogether for the three it might have been $130 to $150. I don't recall exactly.

I went out and bought the packaging and packed it all up and waited for the check. After a couple of months, Rick told me that he had the check and would get it right out. A couple more months go by and he then gives me the old "the check is in the mail" excuse. It was a blatant lie. The check never arrived.

leftwingnutcase
02-09-2012, 06:06 PM
Two, after the, "Rick Olney is A" group was renamed, it now no longer shows up in a Facebook search if you look up Rick's name as far as I can tell. It also is listed as a closed group where the membership can be seen but not the posts. So new people, the people who need to see the warnings from the group won't have access to that.

This has been fixed.

J.R. LeMar
02-09-2012, 06:18 PM
Here's a story of Rick cheating someone I don't recall being posted here. It was on the YABS thread originally.

Sheesh. There's so many different stories from multiple people all giving the same circumstances, of him agreeing to buy something and then stalling payment for weeks and months. We saw that on that Ebay account (named under "OrcaFresh", though Olney denied that was him), where he bid on I think 4 items, and then never paid either (twice claiming that he did send payment, and would then re-send payment). The people who waited for payment before sending the items (or Glenn Barbis Jr. who sent his comics COD) were lucky. The ones who did the work and then waited for payment got screwed. But what kind of man lives like that? It's like his whole existence is trying to get stuff from people for free.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-09-2012, 06:23 PM
Clearly MyNameIsNotLarry is extremely careful about his privacy
Nothing to do with the rest of your post, but just wanted to say, yes you are correct I am very careful when it comes to my privacy. I've had my family harassed in real life with emails and phone calls based on things I wrote online to the point police has to be involved. So I am very careful where I join and who can access things that can get back to my family. That's why both here and originally at CBR I don't use my real name. Though I have said it because I do post under my own name on 3 other sites. I just never write anything remotely capable of allowing people to track down my family. It's a bit extreme but their well being is of the utmost importance to me and me having to not share all I may like to about myself is a small price to pay.

J.R. LeMar
02-09-2012, 06:32 PM
MyNameIsNotLarry: That wasn't a criticism, that's fine, many people feel they have reasons to be extra-careful. I was just commenting on the way you reacted to, what I think was, a pretty innocuous statement Angie made, and saying that you didn't want to be a part of "randomly contacting people" as if that in of itself is a bad thing. But I'm like, that's how I got most of my friends on Facebook. When I signed up, I started randomly looking up names of people I knew, both from real life, and other websites, and contacting them. And then sometimes. I'll add people I don't know just because I see we have a lot of mutual friends. If I knew who you were on Facebook, I probably would have sent you a friend request by now, same as I've added a bunch of other people who post here. Not everyone accepts, just like I don't accept every friend request I get, and that's fine. So you could still join the ORCA group if you want to, while also keeping your profile private.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-09-2012, 06:51 PM
J.R, I didn't take it as criticism on your part at all and have always appreciated your posts here. I tend, as a lot of my posts probably show, to go on and on and give a lot of information when I write. So when my name gets mentioned I generally like to fully express the reasoning behind any thought I may have. In this case I wanted to explain why privacy is an issue in my life and hope that better explained why the idea of contacting people because they were members of ORCA 12 years ago caught my eye as something I wanted further information about before deciding if it was a group I would join at a future date.

Gonna go see if I can find another story of someone Rick cheated. I assume this post will be deleted when it's time for the thread to close, so I want to make a Rick related post to make up for that extra work on their part.

OOps and also I neglected to thank you for saying you'd have requested to add me. I appreciate that and if I added people other than my family/friends IRL, I'd have accepted as I enjoy what you have to say.

J.R. LeMar
02-09-2012, 07:25 PM
As originally posted by Rich Johnston on CBR on DEC. 11 2006 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=15439)

Ronee Bourgeois was a controversial online reporter, whose breaking of the Taki Soma/Charles Brownstein/CBLDF story received much criticism. Sometime afterwards, she was hired as TightLip Entertainment's PR and Marketing Manager.

Today, she resigned, in an email to Rick Olney, which I have just received. She stated, "I can no longer work for a company and man on self-destruct mode. I also cannot defend a company against non-payment to creators when I have not been paid myself since starting with TightLip Entertainment over seven months ago. The amount currently owed to me well exceeds 1,000 dollars and I can no longer work off faith when I have children to feed.

"I understand this year has been rough for you personally, but from a business standpoint I can no longer be linked to TLE and as ChrisCross's agent and with his permission I am pulling him from any current or future work with your company in order to save my client from a similar fate.

"You already have my invoice totaling $800 and have decided not to charge you for the DSL connection you promised to pay for as I am ready to cut my losses and go at this point. I will also remind you that you neglected to get an NDA from me... I never signed one so any threat of lawsuit will be in vain.

"I hope that you get all of your problems worked out and everyone gets paid in a timely fashion. I look forward to my compensation for services rendered."

Ronee later appeared in the old YABS thread, I couldn't find her original post about this issue, but Gail quoted her on June 24 2007 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=5002612&postcount=33905):

I honestly thought that Rick was just misunderstood and a little easily distracted but with the best of intentions, and i said that to the few very good friends that tried to warn me (sorry Gail) but honestly, he seemed harmless if not a little over zealous at the time. he plays the sympathy card well, as the deaths in his family evoked my motherly instinct to help fix things and protect him as much as possible. But soon it became clear that he was manipulative and controlling and had no intention of paying even his closest "friends" who were still standing by him.

I don't just cut bait on people, I stick around... try to help. I want to fix the world pretty much. After weeks of fielding emails from unhappy creators, being told it was essentially Chuck's fault I was not being paid, then watching him act the fool on message boards no matter how many times i told him not to even go back...

But the kicker... the thing that did it for me was when I had to call him up literally crying from my moms house in Florida, begging him to pay me something... ANYTHING, I had just found out about my husbands indiscretion and he was moving out, I had to have something to help with the kids and such in the painful transistion ahead and he assured me he was sending two checks.. one 2nd day air to my mothers house, one to my house.

4 days later I left Florida with no check, and my mother pretty much knowing my "boss" was an asshole. For days I called asking if they got mail for me to no avail, all this time Rick swearing it was there and even offered me the tracking number. But when I asked for that number he seemed to have lost it somewhere in his office. Niether check came, and of course it was not his fault. Damn post office... then it was his courier, or some young boy he had helping him at his haunted attraction in october.

I was selfish for asking for what I was rightfully owed if you asked Rick at the time, after all, HIS life was hard.

From what I recall of how the discussion went on when Olney became involved, he acknowledge that Ronee was a big help to him during those trying times, but that since she never signed a contract with him, she was therefor was not "technically" working for him. I believe he once said that she was "just helping out." He then said that he couldn't pay her, as in, his infamous attorney would not let Olney pay Ronee the money for the work that Olney acknowledged that she did for him, unless she first signed a "Hold Harmless" agreement from Olney's attorney. Which, of course, was never sent to her, because Olney never had an attorney.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-09-2012, 07:28 PM
People have done such a great jon sharing the stories of who Rick has cheated or attempted to cheat that it's hard finding any that have not been reposted here. So as likely my final post, links to the stories done over the years on Rick at Bleeding Cool.

June 27 2009: Happy Birthday Rick Olney, Happy Birthday To You!
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/06/27/hapy-birthday-rick-olney-happy-birthday-to-you/

June 8, 2011: Rick Olney Trying To Organise Veteran’s Day Weekend Comic Con In New York
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/08/rick-olney-trying-to-organise-veterans-day-weekend-comic-con-in-new-york/

Aug 4, 2011: So Who Is Actually Going To Rick Olney’s Comic Con In November?
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/04/so-who-is-actually-going-to-rick-olneys-comic-con-in-november/

Sept 12, 2011: Now Matt Busch Turns Against Rick Olney Over Indiana Jones
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/12/now-matt-busch-turns-against-rick-olney-over-indiana-jones/

Sept 18, 2011: Rick Olney Cancels Adirondack Comic Con
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/18/rick-olney-cancels-adirondack-comic-con/

Sept 20, 2011: Sending Rick Olney A Cease And Desist Letter
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/20/sending-rick-olney-a-cease-and-desist-letter/

Oct 3, 2011: Rick Olney Sells Indiana Jones World Map Without Matt Busch Or Lucasfilms Permission
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/10/03/rick-olney-sells-indiana-jones-world-wap-without-matt-busch-or-lucasfilms-permission/

Oct 4, 2011: When A Doctor Tries To Order An Indiana Jones Map From Rick Olney
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/10/04/when-a-doctor-tries-to-order-an-indiana-jones-map-from-rick-olney/

Nov 26 2011: Rick Olney Demands Apology Before He'll Hand Over Charity Maps And Donations
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/11/26/rick-olney-demands-apology-before-hell-hand-over-charity-maps-and-donations/

Gail Simone
02-09-2012, 07:51 PM
Sheesh. There's so many different stories from multiple people all giving the same circumstances, of him agreeing to buy something and then stalling payment for weeks and months. We saw that on that Ebay account (named under "OrcaFresh", though Olney denied that was him), where he bid on I think 4 items, and then never paid either (twice claiming that he did send payment, and would then re-send payment). The people who waited for payment before sending the items (or Glenn Barbis Jr. who sent his comics COD) were lucky. The ones who did the work and then waited for payment got screwed. But what kind of man lives like that? It's like his whole existence is trying to get stuff from people for free.

AND Danny Donovan says Rick tricked him into allowing Rick to use DANNY'S ebay account, and he pulled the same crap there!

Artful Angie
02-09-2012, 09:09 PM
His Sequential Soul post from tonight:

http://sequentialsoul.blogspot.com/2012/02/busted.html


Thursday, February 9, 2012
Busted!

Yeah, and a few statues too!

I guess most adult comic book readers also 'buy' into the realm of memorabilia, following the various comics driven film properties, or is into buying toys like action figures. My particular side interest to reading and collecting old comic books is feeding that interest in character busts and a statue now and again. I have six bookshelves in my office that get 'treated' so often to additions to my Spider-Man collectables. Of course, none of these items are bought by me for me. No, instead I purchase them these days for my family and youngest son. After getting sick with cancer it became apparent to me to protect those things that have brought me joy during my life.

Another shelf is reserved for the original X-Men and Magneto. I'm a big fan of Marvel's Mimic character from the original X-Men days. A third bookcase holds reference books, and my formerly owned Masterworks and hardcover editions. Hulk has his own couple of shelves. One shelf holds original pages of art bought over the years. I have always adored Sam Glanzman's talent. As such, I have a stack of Outdoor Life issues that feature his "This Happened To Me!" real life illustrated wildlife stories in. One bookcase holds the family DVD collection. Included are the television programs by season sets.

I get comics donated in to Organized Readers of Comics Association for the give-away boxes and I still buy books/collections on behalf of my family. As such, there is a grading table for incoming books, and several shelves for high grade books in process. While I am primarily still a major Marvel characters fan, I also collect other odds and ends, along with having several Superman shelves. I'm also still holding out for a Steve Ditko bust/statue possibility someday. I can't recall ever seeing a bust or statue of the Creeper, Captain Atom, Mr. A., or Hawk and Dove (along with others), like Doctor Strange. Wouldn't any of those rock? I think they would!

I joined a 'club' actually a few years back to stay aware of what was being crafted, released and so forth. Made more sense than following the popular comic chatter websites, or looking through and ordering through Diamond's Previews. The images on this blog post are on my advance order form.
Posted by Rick Olney at 3:46 PM

So Rick has just posted a description of the "collectables" he has which can be used as payment for any legal judgements against him.

But how does he gets these statues delivered to him when the Post Office in his area is so incompetent??

Now over here on Trust Me, I'm Not Lying we have this little gem tonight:

http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/2012/02/you-know-my-name-not-my-story.html


Thursday, February 9, 2012

You Know My Name, Not My Story

"You know my name, not my story."

A lot of times because of our nature, because of our past experiences, and because of what is status quo, we either intentionally or unintentionally judge a person's character when often we only know their name. Judging a person before we truly get to know who they really are, often results in judging a person wrong, which in turn prevents us from getting to know them as we really should because of these judgments.

You don't know all of the life situations that a person has experienced in the past, and what kind of life experiences or difficulties that they may be facing in the present, so do not judge them. Instead of treating someone as everyone else seems to, treat everyone in the way that most would desire to be treated, with kindness and compassion at all times remembering that you may know a person's name but that doesn't mean that you know their story.

Posted by Rick Olney at 9:24 PM

I just don't have the words to describe the sheer level of irony Rick's trying to pass along. I didn't check: Is he deleting all his insult posts and trying to make this one look all preachy and tame like he said he was going to do with Soul?? And didn't he say he would no longer be talking about comics-related stuff on Soul, but here we have a third example of that?? Meanwhile, his crAPA site and his Stale Whale site have nothing new at all? And where is all his extreme-wing political rants now that he closed Farting Beans & Gunpowder??

Rick saying "Maybe people judge too quickly". Is he talking about morally, or just that he has judgements against that were so quick he didn't have time to get to the courthouse and call the judge a troll??

KJ!
02-10-2012, 05:08 AM
I'd like to note that Olney has again posted that photoshopped photo of Tony Isabella and friends, from what I recall as being an entirely unrelated event (K-A or something?)

It's the photo of Tony and friends where Olney photoshopped a Tightlip logo onto Tony's shirt (badly).

He has done this before, and was told to delete it.

He's now posted it again.

J.R. LeMar
02-10-2012, 05:26 AM
Just a desperate grab for attention. Expect a whole lot more of that kind of thing in the immediate weeks after the thread is locked. He'll be posting pictures and personal insults, as well as gloating about how "Gail Simone" locked the thread because she knows that the Legal Hammer of Justice is finally about to be brought down on her ("soon), so she's running scared. All in effort to goad people into acknowledging him and responding to him. That's why I've said I hope people can resist the temptation to do that on the Facebook page.

HamsterRage
02-10-2012, 05:30 AM
Yeah unless he gets a successful con job going again he's not worth talking about.

Tony Isabella
02-10-2012, 05:54 AM
Rick who?

J.R. LeMar
02-10-2012, 06:14 AM
Another look back @ Olney's history of baseless legal threats. When Tony Isabella posted a new round of warnings about Rick Olney, and announced he would be attending the Syracuse Heroes Expo on Oct. 21 2007, Olney posted another Myspace blog on Aug. 23 2007 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=5355660&postcount=37944)


By all means, come to upstate New York in October, Mr. Isabella. It'll make serving you with legal papers easier.

And regarding:

"Also...

Since Olney apparently really is too astonishingly stupid to realize that keeping quiet was to his benefit, I'll be posting another round of Olney warnings on the Internets. And whatever impotent threats he makes in response to them."

What a pathetic and vile loser he is.

Tony Isabella"

Your words damn you further. I have no intention of letting you (or your cohorts) have any control over my life. You're simply a bully. A childish punk that was probably bullied as a youngster, acting out now as an immature adult. This is your time to try and impress your friends here. Show the industry your hidden technique as a bully. You've carried it around inside you for 40+ years. Eddie must be soooooo proud of his father.


I know how to deal with you, Mr. Isabella. See you in October.

When Jeff Watkins, the organizer of the con, warned Olney against trying to threaten his guests into not coming, Olney responded on August 27 2007 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=5378516&postcount=38146)


Don't threaten me for announcing that Tony Isabella is going to be served once he gets to Syracuse. That's nothing you have any control over. Not to mention, it wasn't a threat. It was a promise.


To which Jeff added:


Besides, when Tony is NOT served any type of documents what so ever, you will end up looking like an even bigger dolt.

And, sure enough, the convention came and went, and Tony was not served with any documents, and Olney did end up looking like an even bigger dolt.

And, of course, back around last Sept., he started saying that he would be suing Tony (& Gail), in 2012. He never gave a date, of course, just sometime between Jan. 1 and Dec. 31 2012, so don't get too complacent, Tony, those legal papers could be arriving any day now!

KJ!
02-10-2012, 07:21 AM
http://www.grantbond.com/bulletin/viewtopic.php?t=29&sid=276a6b11bf971c4bbdf6aecbcbf63d0d

The 'full' Ric Olie story.

Something we seem to miss is the first post, where he claims that the character went uncredited 'for a reason', the implication of course being the 'real-world' name.

The name's changed anyway, so why would that matter?

There are many real name references in Star Wars. Some get said. Others don't. There's a TONNE of characters. Ric Olie is unimportant, he's just a pilot (dubbed 'Captain Obvious' for a reason by fans, and I also think his acting was shoddy, but well, almost everyone's was in that film heh).

To note his name wouldn't make sense. We don't even know if Padme knew his name, for one. The hero of the situation DID get named and noted: R2D2.

Anyway, Olney discusses it all in that thread, over a number of posts. There's the main one we all know, but the other ones also show signs of his delusions, and not just Star Wars.


And unrelated, here's another example of the non-sexist, non-racist, non-homophobe Olney: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4212066&postcount=3057

Gail Simone
02-10-2012, 07:57 AM
Again, Rick's bullshit story on the figure has changed a dozen times.

First, the idea that Skywalker Ranch, who regularly employs comic book artists and WORKS WITH DARK HORSE EVERY MONTH would need Rick to send boxes of comics is the dumbest thing ever. Dark Horse is ON THE WEST COAST, and they actually produce the real Star Wars comic. It's the stupidest bullshit he could come up with, ever.

Then, the number of comics he sent has varied hugely from 300 to 3000. Then, no one at Orca verifies one bit of this story.

Then, his story has gone from, "This is a coincidence, this character's name, who looks nothing like me, is slightly similar to mine, but I can't prove it" to "I have evidence that I will keep promising to produce for a decade but that no one has ever seen and never will."

Then, when we actually CONTACTED THE DESIGN TEAM AT LUCASFILM, they laughed out loud at the story and said it was complete bullshit.

Remember also, this same idiot, Rick Olney, ALSO thought that IRON MAN II, the hit film, somehow included a cameo character that was supposed to be him by name (the cameo guy being handsome and fit and successful, the anti-Olney in every way). He thought this huge, blockbuster film, somehow contained a significant tribute to a failed comic book club that had closed its doors years previously. Yes folks, he really is that stupid.

He thought that the cameo for the CEO of Oracle, a real person, in a bit of product placement, referred to by Tony Stark, as the "Oracle of Oracle," was supposed to be the "Oracle of Orca."

That folks, is narcissism on a MASSIVE scale.

The sheer cluelessness it takes to make that mistake not once, but twice, and then stick to that ever-changing bullshit story is just mind-boggling.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure he thinks he's Kissyface Bear in the Care Bears movie, as well, because, you know, all movies care desperately about creepy
57 year old racist, homophobic jerks who like pretend time just a LITTLE too much.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-10-2012, 08:05 AM
There was another character Rick thought he was named after. Looking back, maybe he was right in this case ;)



Another story is that Rick believed a character named Ricko the Sicko from issue 3 or 4 of Green Goblin was named after him. It seemed like an odd character name but if it was named after Rick, you have to wonder what they thought of him at Marvel. At the time, it seemed like every few months he had another one of these stories.

Gail Simone
02-10-2012, 08:12 AM
Right, he thought everything named Orca was a tribute to him, somehow...

I'm more surprised he doesn't think Paste-Pot Pete wasn't named after him, seeing as how they are both dumb and useless.

KJ!
02-10-2012, 08:13 AM
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Huh!? What's This!? An IRON MAN II Mention?

It was a pleasant surprise to see and hear a personal shout-out to "The Oracle of ORCA" in the recently released Marvel Iron Man II film. Anyone keen enough to spot the segment of Tony Stark exiting the Stark Expo to greet fans and catch a glimpse of Stan Lee will also see an actor (sporting a beard and mustache) answering to Stark's greeting of, "Hey! The oracle of ORCA!", as said individual, sporting a somewhat familiar look (seen on the staircase) replies, "What a pleasure. Nice to see you. Call me." to Stark.

Hahahaha! I suppose I owe a bit of a thank you to script writer, Justin Theroux. So Thank you, sir! The mention of ORCA will help in our Fall 2010 new website premiere.

Overall, I enjoyed Iron Man II and its always nice to see Larry King (Stan Lee) on film.
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http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=11177124

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-10-2012, 08:21 AM
Right, he thought everything named Orca was a tribute to him, somehow...

I'm more surprised he doesn't think Paste-Pot Pete wasn't named after him, seeing as how they are both dumb and useless.
Say what you will about Rick but Paste-Pot Pete was geniu... na, I can't even jokingly say that was a cool character. Paste Pot Peep from Spider-Ham on the otherhand...

Rick is also convinced that Terry Moore had Francine and Katchoo wear ORCA shirts in Strangers In Paradise comics. Terry is one of the nicest guys ever, like he would ever have anything to do with Rick.

KJ!
02-10-2012, 08:39 AM
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So if any of you know who don't know that action figure... its \"Ric Olie\" the starship pilot that saved Queen Amadala and her group from Naboo in Episode One. Ric Olie also is credited with being the pilot that gave young Anakin Skywalker his first solo starship flying lesson.

So the pertinence of that character, which by the way went un-identified in the film by name for a reason, is that he was named after me. I'm Rick Olney. It was George Lucas' way of thanking me for doing a comic book favor for Skywalker Ranch. Yeah, strange but true. Not many people can lay claim to having a Star Wars action figure character named after them.
================================================== =========

Also: MASSIVE logic fail.

Olney wants people to believe it's because of the 'real life reference' that the character wasn't named in the film.

A) Lucas has named characters in the films with names based on real life people.

B) WHY would Lucas name a SPEAKING character for the film, and give him a name that he supposedly knew he COULDN'T use. Why would anyone do that? And that he 'allowed' an action figure to be made of a character name he was supposedly afraid of using.

Wouldn't you just rename the speaking character, and shift the 'reference' to an extra, rather than deliberately rewriting your script so as to avoid mentioning the character's name?

C) The name is sufficiently different ANYWAY, so even IF it was based on Olney (which we know is false), the name Ric Olie was fine to use.

D) Ralph Brown is not 'uncredited in the film'. Olney stupidly believes that simply means not named during the film. In the end credits, Olie is named.

Gail Simone
02-10-2012, 08:44 AM
Say what you will about Rick but Paste-Pot Pete was geniu... na, I can't even jokingly say that was a cool character. Paste Pot Peep from Spider-Ham on the otherhand...

Rick is also convinced that Terry Moore had Francine and Katchoo wear ORCA shirts in Strangers In Paradise comics. Terry is one of the nicest guys ever, like he would ever have anything to do with Rick.

Easy enough to check, I'm friends with Terry. I'll fire off a note right now!

Gail Simone
02-10-2012, 08:51 AM
Message sent to Terry, we'll know soon enough.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-10-2012, 09:02 AM
Easy enough to check, I'm friends with Terry. I'll fire off a note right now!
Must be nice to be friends with Terry Moore. The first fan letter, well it was an email I ever sent was to Terry Moore. I loved Strangers In Paradise so much and had to tell him. He sent back the nicest reply. This was very early in it's run. So from that point on I bought everything he put out.

Gail Simone
02-10-2012, 09:11 AM
Here's something interesting. Another direct lie of Rick's contradicted by his own words.

"Issues of Fresh, the newsletter of Organized Readers of Comics Association

Fresh
We produced a newsletter for a number of years from 1993 into 2008. I'll pull our file copies and post them so you can see that we had substance as a group. We changed the face of comics, actually. This was accomplished via our connection and interactions within the comic book entertainment industry and the publishing arm of comic books.

A standard issue of Fresh, produced monthly and later in 2003-2008 it shifted to a quarterly newsletter. In ORCA's heyday it boasted of having over 1,800 active members. Our range in reading age participation was as young as 6yrs of age to a core group of devoted older readers and collectors in their 40s and 50s. We had people on the roster from all aspects of the pop culture attraction of comics; from Hollywood actors, police officers, doctors and school teachers to everyday readers in America, Canada and six other countries.

We gave away so many free comics that I really can't keep the exact number in my memory any more. But we have our records and if need be I can substantiate those numbers AND how we came to have all those comic books to actually give away.

Anyway, ORCA existed and it did its best to follow its motto; a motto that we still follow: "We exist to promote the reading, care, and collecting of comic books, to make new friends and help others discover "America's favorite pastime ... comic books." "


So many of his recent lies refuted here.

Can't remember how many books he gave away, but recently swears it was 108,000. No, 300,000. No, 700,000!

Quit publishing Fresh, he admits it here, despite recently saying he had never stopped.


Let's not forget that everyone who has come forward as a member has said they never got all these monthly goodies and left disappointed.

Which again makes me ask...Rick ADMITS to at least ten percent of his group never getting ANYTHING Orca promised. That's at least
180 people, Rick. By your admission, and you're a known liar.

But let's say this one time, you're telling the truth.

What happened to their fees, Rick?

Gail Simone
02-10-2012, 09:12 AM
Must be nice to be friends with Terry Moore. The first fan letter, well it was an email I ever sent was to Terry Moore. I loved Strangers In Paradise so much and had to tell him. He sent back the nicest reply. This was very early in it's run. So from that point on I bought everything he put out.

Terry is a doll. When I was raising money for John Ostrander, we asked Terry for a sketch or something.

He donated a COVER. The original art to an issue of Echo.

That blew my mind. What a guy!

Glenn Barbis Jr.
02-10-2012, 09:44 AM
So we have named after Rick/ORCA...

1) A Star Wars movie character

2) An Iron Man 2 ORCA reference

3) A character in Spawn

4) An ORCA use in Strangers In Paradise

...now, the SiP I could maybe believe, if Terry was taken in by any claims of ORCA's do-gooding. The Spawn character...eh. A stretch, maybe, but getting doubtful, especially after the whole Tony Twist legal ramifications Toddy went thru. The Star Wars reference has been around awhile. And in the early days of the 'net, possible for people to believe who didn't know Rick, and only went by what they read of/from him online. But once he became more known online, especially thru his various 1998-2000 meltdowns on Comicon, TCJ, Sequential Tart, and others...it starts to cast serious doubt on that story. The Iron Man reference is just too much to believe. Rick's reputation is now widely known, and the fact that nothing had been done with ORCA for years, makes this story rather far-fetched.

And these are only the ones we know about. I'm sure he's spun other tall tales of who he knows and what has been named after him/ORCA. He's duped alot of people thru the years, but as the internet grew, so did the means of proving everything he's claimed false. It truly is a wonderful invention!

Guapo Mendez
02-10-2012, 09:52 AM
A recap made by SUPERECWFAN1 two years ago:


- The 1st big one to start things at a begining has to be the not so great military career. Where he served awhile. Olney in trying to brag his accomplishments showed a pic of men in Vietnam. Olney hinted one was him. This was proven false as Olney quickly backtracked.

- We skip ahead a few years as Olney claims he inspired the Marvel/DC softball games the companies would do in the 1980's. That as a fan he recommended it to a pro. (name escapes me at the moment)

- Olney claims to have the most off-record interviews with Stan Lee in existance. No real facts to back this one up at all. Just a bizzare claim he's done it.

- In the 1990's Marvel Fanfare issue Orca piece , Olney claims Orca membership is overseas. No real facts to back this up. When pushed to show records of this (and other facts on Orca) he left the BleedingCool message board last year.

- Rick claimed in various numbers ranging from 100,000 and up that Orca gave away comics from 1992/93-2001/2002 . That Orca members recieved thousands of comics. When told by Colleen Doran postage for these books would be in the thousands of dollars , Olney had no explanation.

- Rick claimed on Comicon that donating comics to Orca was like a charity I believe. When pushed to show his company's tax deductable status , Olney balked and got angry.

- In 2000's Rick soon would claim that he inspired Comics in the Classroom ...and that Mark Alessi of Crossgen picked up on it. He would gladly pat himself on the back for this for years.

- Also in the early 2000's , Rick would claim to have donated comics to Skywalker Ranch and became close to George Lucas. That he also inspired the character Ric Ollie in the Star Wars Prequels. This one was proven to be as we guessed...wrong as hell.

- Rick would claim to be bringing FRESH back and have a countdown clock. It basically counted down to nothing as usual.

- Rick's claims last year was no one was gonna stop him from publishing comics in the industry. He would settle his debts and would soon make annoucements of "Debt Agreements" with creators. Well ...it was all fine except he's never paid anything beyond the annoucements.

- Rick has claimed Orca has inspired comic book villains in Spawn and Batman.

- His claims of Orca being bigger than it actually was has been going on for years. Only a few people have emerged to discuss the group the last few years...and the memories of it aren't as good. For a group to be as big as it claimed....why hasn't more emerged ?

- Usually would for years , (and even the prior thread here) Rick would claim he would unleash his legal team on everyone. He's basically promised to sue half the internet at this point and will continue to taunt that "Bad things are ahead ..legal wise..." for those he has wronged.

- Claimed he was gonna ruin Gail Simone's career and others. At last check Gail is getting more comics to write and Scott Reed is doing a Marvel mini-series.

- Recently claimed the script- writer of Iron Man II threw a shout out at Orca. When proven it did not happen ...(The scene was Oracle's CEO meeting Tony) Olney has went quiet. Obviously its yet more egg on his face...

There is more I am missing I'm sure. But a good run down of the outlandish claims the last 2-3 decades...

Deegan
02-10-2012, 10:04 AM
I apologize if this seems rude, but what are waiting on before we close the thread? The deluge of articles is nice, but let's make sure there's something on page 1 to direct people to them.

Artful Angie
02-10-2012, 01:51 PM
And now Rick has sunk to BRIBING and BEGGING people to join his fake ORCA.

http://orca-fresh.blogspot.com/2012/02/limited-offer-from-organized-readers-of.html


Friday, February 10, 2012

A Limited Offer from Organized Readers of Comics Association (ORCA) on Facebook


Who are the individuals who have made great contributions to the comic book arts? Who are the writers, artists, editors, publishers and others who have plied their craft in insightful ways? The Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide presents a look at the contributions of Neal Adams, Murphy Anderson, Carl Barks, Chris Claremont, Steve Ditko, Will Eisner, Neil Gaiman, William M. Gaines, Carmine Infantino, Jack Kirby, Joe Kubert, Harvey Kurtzman, Stan Lee, Paul Levtiz, Frank Miller, Jerry Robinson, Jim Shooter, Joe Shuster, Jerry Siegel, Julius Schwartz, Wally Wood and many others in this special one-shot. Cover by Mark Sparacio. FC, 72 Pages

Are you on Facebook? Like to read comic books and talk about everything that has made the comic book so often such a thrill? Well read on!

Anyone wanting a free copy of this book (for bothering to join our group here on FB) need only join the Organized Readers of Comics Associated Group page on Facebook.com and then send me their mailing address via email BEFORE MARCH 1, 2012.

You can email me at: orcafresh@gmail.com or through email link to my Rick Olney Facebook profile, but do it BEFORE March 1st! After that date, this limited offer is null and void. Thanks for your interest in Organized Readers of Comics Association (ORCA).

Posted by Rick Olney at 4:46 PM

You have to love how he calls joining his group a "bother". LOL

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-10-2012, 02:04 PM
That reminds me of his now deleted Free Comics, Kids! blog.

He promised if you sent him your information it would be kept private and he would send you free comics. Instead he posted the full address of a person who wrote him and no one ever got any free comics.

Some it is detailed here. http://isitfactorisitfiction.blogspot.com/2008/09/notice-of-rejection.html

Anyone who sends Rick Olney their information is begging to be scammed.

OMAR
02-10-2012, 02:17 PM
So you've started your own ORCA group now.

Well, that's one way to keep Olney actively involved in your life after this thread is closed down. And I suppose it saves on the gas money you'd have to use if you had decided to just keep driving out to his house.

Kudos!

Haunted Brandon
02-10-2012, 02:37 PM
So you've started your own ORCA group now.

Well, that's one way to keep Olney actively involved in your life after this thread is closed down. And I suppose it saves on the gas money you'd have to use if you had decided to just keep driving out to his house.

Kudos!

The guy who spent 2 years or more nursing an obsession over John Byrne now periodically rides in here on a moral high horse to lecture others about obsessive behavior. Priceless.

I get it though. All Olney's done so far is to cheat, lie, insult, manipulate, and not pay anyone. I understand how this pales in comparison to Byrne saying grumpy things on his website forum.

By the way Omar, if it really bothers you so much that people are talking about Olney's behavior, perhaps you can overnight a few folks some hush money to help keep his rep clean.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-10-2012, 04:55 PM
And now Rick has sunk to BRIBING and BEGGING people to join his fake ORCA.

I didn't have time to look at his new Facebook page when you originally posted. Having done so now, it's comical.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/158805380901403/162279953887279/

He created the page Sunday and then immediately added 32 members. He's up to 53 now but a quick glance tells me only about 20% of the membership even knows they were added. I could have a group with 100 people in an hour if I just added a bunch of people too. It's also clear he is keeping his Shedding Light On Lies blog away from them. He only links to the Sequential Soul blog so he can try and hide his crazy rants.

Rick's already making them promises if they just give him their addresses and wait a few weeks, a month tops he'll be sending them free comics. I wonder where we've heard that before? It's also apparent he has no clue about comic books today. All his focus is on books that came out when he was a kid. He couldn't name 5 current storylines to save his life.

This would be nothing but laughs and funny if not for the innocent people who will get caught up in this. You can tell that some are so excited and think this is going to be so great. They're going to find out pretty quick all Rick's promises are empty. Hopefully it doesn't sour their desire to know more about comics in the future.

AIPman1
02-10-2012, 04:58 PM
The "lies" blog sure has turned into a "who should I threaten next" fest....shesh, Hey Olney, if you have to threaten EVERYONE IN THE WORLD that it's your way or the highway, perhaps it's NOT everyone else?

Matt Doc Martin
02-10-2012, 05:26 PM
The "lies" blog sure has turned into a "who should I threaten next" fest....shesh, Hey Olney, if you have to threaten EVERYONE IN THE WORLD that it's your way or the highway, perhaps it's NOT everyone else?

If threats were currency he would have paid off everyone twice over by now. Sadly, his threats are worth NOTHING, as I have yet to see him carry one out.

J.R. LeMar
02-10-2012, 05:43 PM
Yeah, I noticed that too earlier today, him threatening to sue another person for supposedly lying about him. One day I really need to go through the old YABS threads and this one and then post a lis oft every single time he's implied or outright stated, that he would be suing or pressing charges against someone, during the past 5 years. I know that other than that one time with Tony that I posted earlier, he never gives an actual date of when it will happen. Just "soon," or "in the weeks and months to come" or "right around the corner," or just be really vague, mentioning how he's been copying and forwarding information to his attorney, or to "the appropriate authorities.". A few times, in the beginning, he did claim that legal proceedings had already started. He'd say he'd talked to his lawyers (remember, @ one point he claimed that he had "two legal teams" all working on his various libel cases, and he was meeting with them twice a month to discuss it) and that "it's out of my hands now". And I'm sure he'd said he'd called the police and pressed charges against Matt Doc Martin more than once, and claimed it "a done deal." Plus, there was that time when he claimed the Post Master General had intercepted some letter Matt sent to Olney, and that now Matt would be facing some kind of federal charges for sending mail with no return address.

Glenn Barbis Jr.
02-10-2012, 05:45 PM
Rick posted in his Comments section...

"Sarah -- As it states,"treat everyone in the way that most would desire to be treated." I've told you (and the others) for years now that you didn't know the whole story about me. I think I proved that recently with the matter of my status as a Veteran being attacked by you and the others with your claims that I was not a recipient of an Honorable Discharge. I can only turn the other cheek just so many times and then it becomes a matter of whatever happens... happens. I proved you and the others wrong. Yet, because you're not of a right mind where I'm personally concerned, I now have to impress upon you and the others in other fashions. What you read above is fact. Again, if there was one Marine amongst you he'd tell you your best options. But you and the others wouldn't listen. So let the reality of it all settle in soon."

Has Rick ever posted an actual Honorable Discharge Ceritifcate, like these...

http://76.162.220.64/images/usmc%20images/discharge-frame.jpg
http://cyberreviews.skwc.com/bdmckay/marine_discharge.jpg

...or just that "Automated Service Center" form letter he has posted? His certificate could be just a "General Discharge."

My wife is a Desert Storm I vet, and worked in the offices during her Reserve time, so I'm going to ask her if all the form letters would say "testimonial of your honorable service" or something to that affect, just because they served their country.

Also, didn't someone alreayd look up his service records? Links please, if anyone knows where they are. Thanks!

J.R. LeMar
02-10-2012, 05:49 PM
The topic of his military service is completely irrelevant.

Glenn Barbis Jr.
02-10-2012, 05:57 PM
Considering how often he's brought it up, everywhere, as a way of showing how "honorable" he is, I would like some clarification on some things as an example to use on the "Something Is Tingling" blog.

In regards to relevancy...If the man lies about his service record, what else is he willing to lie about. I just remember someone finding out some things about his service, and I want them for the record on my blog, and it will help establish a pattern of habitual lies of everything he's posted about himself, especially in regards to his alleged charity fraud against veterans.

**Edited to add...I've been cataloging a list of his stories & lies. It's a daunting task, but it's amazing to look at just the few thinsg he's constantly brought up, and how the story changes a little bit every time. Even in posts hours apart, he cannot keep his stories straight. And he's been caught in many outright lies. I think this is all relevant to show the kind of person Rick Olney II really is. And once I've sifted thru everything I can (or until it gets to me!) I will post it all on the Something Is Tingling (http://somethingistingling.blogspot.com/) blog.

Artful Angie
02-10-2012, 06:09 PM
So you've started your own ORCA group now.

Well, that's one way to keep Olney actively involved in your life after this thread is closed down. And I suppose it saves on the gas money you'd have to use if you had decided to just keep driving out to his house.

Kudos!

Thanks, OMAR! It took less time than it takes When Lightning Strikes to go from a high school doodle in J-Dolt's Algebra notebook to an actual comic. But then, Pangea turned into the current continents in less time than it takes J-Dolt to put out a comic.

Thanks for your input, OMAR!

J.R. LeMar
02-10-2012, 06:10 PM
In regards to relevancy...If the man lies about his service record, what else is he willing to lie about.

And that's how this started, back on the original YABS thread. Someone, I think it was either Jim or Matt, announced that they were going to look into whether or not Olney was actually in the military, assuming that he was probably lying about it. Then they found out he really was in the Marines. So that's one instance where Olney got to say "See, I told you so, you stupid haters!" Now it's about whether he really got an "Honorable" discharge or not. He posted some document that says he did. Assume he does post the exact documents you ask for. Then what does that prove? Nothing. So what? Does that change anything about the facts that we know about his character right now?

Even if he was Honorably Discharged over 30 years ago, it doesn't change the FACT, that right now and for the past 5 months, he's been holding valuable merchandise which was intended to raise funds for disabled military veterans. This would have been all taken care of, and the veterans would have been assisted, months ago, but it's all delayed, for what reason? None. Just because Olney want's to play games. THAT is what matters.

Artful Angie
02-10-2012, 06:12 PM
I didn't have time to look at his new Facebook page when you originally posted. Having done so now, it's comical.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/158805380901403/162279953887279/

He created the page Sunday and then immediately added 32 members. He's up to 53 now but a quick glance tells me only about 20% of the membership even knows they were added. I could have a group with 100 people in an hour if I just added a bunch of people too. It's also clear he is keeping his Shedding Light On Lies blog away from them. He only links to the Sequential Soul blog so he can try and hide his crazy rants.

Rick's already making them promises if they just give him their addresses and wait a few weeks, a month tops he'll be sending them free comics. I wonder where we've heard that before? It's also apparent he has no clue about comic books today. All his focus is on books that came out when he was a kid. He couldn't name 5 current storylines to save his life.

This would be nothing but laughs and funny if not for the innocent people who will get caught up in this. You can tell that some are so excited and think this is going to be so great. They're going to find out pretty quick all Rick's promises are empty. Hopefully it doesn't sour their desire to know more about comics in the future.

Now Rick wouldn't do something so dishonorable as add a bunch of people to his Facebook group without their permission, would he?

Especially since that what he tried to call me out on doing. That wouldn't seem to make sense to.. you know... anybody but Rick!

J.R. LeMar
02-10-2012, 06:13 PM
BTW, I noticed that the Olney FB page can only be viewed by people who are logged into Facebook. I'm sure that can be changed, and it should be. So if someone come across it via a search, they can still see it, even if they don't have an FB account. Also, so that the group address can be linked to on other sites.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-10-2012, 06:19 PM
The topic of his military service is completely irrelevant.
I agree. Also to hopefully end the military service stuff, I'm 99% sure that someone posted in the YABS thread that they have seen his dishonourable discharge certificate.

I unfortunately didn't seem to credit who wrote this. By the language I assume it was Dennis? Anyway, this was posted.


Regarding Rick's military service? Rick received an Honorable Discharge from the United States Marine Corps in 1973 or 1974. I don't recall the precise year at the moment, but I've seen this Discharge document prominently and proudly displayed in his home for years.


*edit* Found where it was originally. It was indeed written by Dennis and sent to Rich Johnston. Here is a link to it from the YABS thread. http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4654308&postcount=24286

Artful Angie
02-10-2012, 06:30 PM
And once again, Rick states he knows that Mike Malott is me. He states this on his blegh, with a response by Matt Doc Martin, and Rick replies back.

http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/2012/02/case-of-mike-malott.html#comment-form


Friday, February 10, 2012

The Case of Mike Malott

Get yourself some legal advice, Mike. You look to maybe needing it in order for me to unravel the mystery (which really isn't a mystery at all) as to the exact real identity of Artful Angie. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the below words are yours.


"I don't fucking know Doc, the last I really spoke to Rick was when he invited me to the cluster fuck that last mighty-mini con. Then I did not bother him because til I found about him screwing people left and right. Then a few people like Tony Isabella post things about him, all I said was the truth about different incidents involving others. When I knew Rick he was nicest guy would you could meet but then he turns on people like viper. Also I want to add that if he continues his attack on me, I will seek legal action against him, and his attorney that threaten people how can get the money when he living disability I have means to combat him. I learn long ago to comfort bully like him, and should be not any different."


I've made no 'attacks' against you, Mike. I've only replied in kind to your remark against me which were heinous and obviously deliberate. You state above that back when you were a teen of 15yrs. how you thought of me as "he was nicest guy would you could meet but then he turns on people like viper." Consider that the reasoning behind what you are now facing, Mike. Nobody likes being attacked. You've thrown in with some pretty notorious people (driven by their own hatred) and you've condoned this attempt to hi-jack ORCA on Facebook. So, yes, you appear to be my enemy and the enemy of the people still involved and liking Organized Readers of Comics Association (ORCA).

And listening to Tony Isabella? Come on! Get real! Isabella has never cared for the concept idea of ORCA. All Isabella ever cared for was the strength of his creative writing in all the columns he'd suggest and literally 'beg' for attention. But that is another egg to soon be cracked properly.

Get some real legal advice, Mike. I now know the identity of Artful Angie. For several reason's "Artful's" 2012 is gonna really suck. And I warned him.
Posted by Rick Olney at 2:48 PM

2 comments:

Matt Doc Martin Feb 10, 2012 06:24 PM
You have no clue who you are actually dealing with regarding Angie.

I laugh at your ineptitude...and your pathetic threats.


Replies: Rick Olney Feb 10, 2012 06:38 PM

Really? Well you'll just have to sit back and wait and see, I guess. You're allowed to laugh. What you're NOT allowed to do is touch yourself in public, asshat.

To which Mike replied on FB:


Rick I did get real legal advice by the New York State Attorney General office.

And as for knowing who I am, as several people here can attest to now....Let me quote Doctor Cox from Scrubs and refer you to this little diddy....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQxhOYqLPdY

J.R. LeMar
02-10-2012, 06:37 PM
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would actually waste time commenting on Olney's blog. Not to mention, it looks like my initial worries of how that FB group would turn out ARE coming true, as I see people talking about, and responding to, his blog posts there. So I guess he'll continue to get the attention he desperately craves. Oh well.

Artful Angie
02-10-2012, 07:00 PM
You're right of course, J.R. It needs to be said that it has turned into another version of this thread. I'm just as guilty of it, and it needs to just stop.

MacQuarrie
02-10-2012, 07:29 PM
For the record, Rick (you moron), I have exchanged emails with Angie, I know his real name, and it isn't Mike. You're being a complete idiot, your harassment of Mike is actionable, and even though I hope you screw up bad enough to face charges, it's not fair to Mike.

Look, you toolbag, I've always been straight with you. I dealt fairly with you when you wanted help trying to resolve all this crap years ago. I was honest about it when I got your service records and confirmed that you are in fact a Vietnam-era USMC veteran. I've never lied to you or about you. When I find out I'm wrong, I go out of my way to correct it. And I am telling you, you are barking up the wrong goddam tree in a big way. Angie isn't Mike. Leave him the hell alone.

Glenn Barbis Jr.
02-10-2012, 07:56 PM
Okay. I understand where people are coming from, but it's about a pattern of lying. And that pattern goes a long way in establishing Rick's character. Especially in regards to him wanting to use that status to raise funds for veterans charities. Whether Rick can use it to say "I told you so!" is inconsequential, for those very few nuggets that are true. A stopped clock is right twice a day, right? And kudos to him then, if he did tell the truth, or follow thru on proving something, for once.

This is my reasoning for asking/bringing it up.

But it's not worth getting anyone in a huff over me just wanting some info.

Consider the matter dropped on this board. I apologize for any grief I may have caused.

J.R. LeMar
02-10-2012, 08:14 PM
Apology accepted.

Artful Angie
02-10-2012, 08:15 PM
Just to let you all know, I was at the Utica College hockey game tonight (UC Pioneers vs. Neumann University. We lost 5-0.) and tonight was Make-A-Wish night, featuring Central New York children who are in the program. I had the opportunity to meet the director of the Central New York chapter, a very nice lady, and explained to her a little bit of Rick and his claims about donating years ago to "The Mohawk Valley Chapter" of Make-A-Wish... a chapter which never existed. She gave me her email address so I could send her the information about Rick and his claims so she could look into it and see if there's any record of Rick making any donation at all in either the CNY or Capital District chapters.

Here's a link to the wish that was granted tonight for the 3 1/2 year old boy who was diagnosed with leukemia at 9 months old.

http://www.wktv.com/community/Ilion-boys-hockey-rink-wish-granted-139139314.html


Ilion boy's hockey rink wish granted

By LEXIE O'CONNOR

UTICA,N.Y. (WKTV) - Thanks to the Make A Wish Foundation, Will Schrader of Ilion will soon have a hockey rink built in his backyard.

The three and a half year-old has been in and out of hospitals since he was 9 months old and diagnosed with leukemia. During that time, his Mom says his love for hockey stayed strong.

"This is amazing," says Will's Mom Jill Schrader. "Will pretty much played hockey throughout the entire time he had his transplant when we were out in boston even before that when we were in Syracuse getting treatment."

"I had my goals set up, and I played," says Will looking back on his time playing hockey in the hospital room.

Now Will will be able to play hockey all year round with a synthetic ice rink in his own backyard.

One of Will's wish granters Barb Galvin says Will's wish stood alone when she came to his home.

"It's very unusual, usually they don't know what they want, they look to their mother or father for the answer and he didn't blink an eye," says Galvin. "He's one of the few kids I couldn't get a second wish out of."

Will's rink is expected to go in this Spring.

KJ!
02-11-2012, 04:50 AM
What IS the FB group called?

The link from page 544 doesn't work, and I can't find it searching on FB.

KJ!
02-11-2012, 04:52 AM
More bullshit on his blog, including a screencap of DocAbsurds FB.

''Looks a lot like this Tim Tobolski fellow wishes for himself a self fulfilling prophecy more than any sort of peaceful and amiable end to this matter. I get notifications from people (sympathizers?) who are in the same circles as these anti-Rick Olney bunch, and when the smearing stops and people like Gail Simone and Tony Isabella are all done standing on my shoulders working their creative writing in weaving lies ... then I'll begin to fix what is fixable and should be fixed. Frankly, I don't think they can live without hating on someone. Gail Simone proved that with her attacks against the character J-Bolt over on www.comicbookresources.com She had a forum there once-upon-a-time, until they dumped her. And why? Because as time went on, her forum became all about Rick Olney (me). So no matter how or when, if ever she decides to grow-up ... she'll always have me wrapped around her career. It'll happen at the Brian M. Bendis 606 forums too. Betcha!

Tim Tobolski needs to publicly apologize for his handling of this matter. Not until then will it all be over. That would soothe the rancor. What do you say to that, Tim? ''


Unrelated, but this http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4212359&postcount=3160 states that Olney was 'cut off' from any comp copies by Marvel AND DC over a decade ago. Hmmm.

KJ!
02-11-2012, 06:02 AM
And with that, I (hopefully) bid this thread adieu.

I actually posted a few pages ago what I thought would be my final message seen in this thread, but obviously that's not the case.

Hope nobody minds me copying it here.



Congratulations and thank you, to those who helped the Olney victims, and did their best to ensure there would be as few more as possible.

You guys have done a wonderful thing, and achieved a lot.

Tomorrow, Olney goes into the halls of obscurity, to be laughed at all the louder.

But make no mistake, Olney. We will be watching.

Just because there's no active thread, doesn't mean we'll be complacent.

We'll be watching. We'll be honest. We'll be there

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-11-2012, 06:05 AM
What IS the FB group called?

The link from page 544 doesn't work, and I can't find it searching on FB.
That's odd. The page was working when I went to bed 7 hours ago. Off the top of head I can't recall the group name unfortunately since in my bookmarks it's still listed as, "Rick Olney Is A..." It was briefly made a closed, unsearchable group yesterday but the link still worked and then it was made open again. Perhaps something happened again where it was now made unviewable to all? Or Facebook is just being stupid, they're stupid a lot :)

Kal El
02-11-2012, 06:19 AM
The group appears to be gone. It's not showing up under my Groups tab anymore.

Artful Angie
02-11-2012, 06:33 AM
I think it's Facebook having a burp again. I may shut down and restart the group, so it gets rid of some of the more irrelevent postings and take it back to just warning people to do their research about Rick. J.R. was right that some of the posts responding to Rick's dribble don't need to be on there, mine included.

DocAbsurd
02-11-2012, 06:54 AM
I'd say, 'Kiss my ass.'

That screencap is from last year, back when he first buzzed me on FB and then followed up on that thankfully short-lived 'Tightlip Tales' blog. And looks like my prediction was right on the money. 'Self fulfilling prophecy'; like I'd ever depend on Olney for my reputation.

He's pissed off because I emailed him another reminder at the beginning of the week, the first one since last September and only the second time this year I've even bothered mentioning it to anyone. I sent four in total last year after he requested my address so he could pay me. Here's the screencap from the 'Tightlip Tales':

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/DocABsurd206/TightlipTales03.jpg

That was from May, 2011. Dates are right on the blog by the 'writer's' own admission. And what's that last line say? 'Very good, Tim. I shall pay you the $450 as soon as possible. Before mailing said payment, I shall email you one last time. Payment will be sent signed return receipt requested.' And here we are, February 2012, and nothing.

But wait, there's more. I'm just gonna copy the entire last email sent to me; bold is me:


On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Timothy J Tobolski <docabsurd206@gmail.com> wrote:
Legalities? You've been dicking me around about this for almost a decade; stop your damned posturing and do something right for a change. There's no 'legalities' to review. You promised to pay me for the columns. I wrote the columns. You've admitted you owe me the money all over the internet, and this time I saved them all. You were the one who contacted me last year on Facebook without the slightest provocation from me; you demanded my address; you blocked me from your blog; you demanded my address again. I complied.

Yes, and I have had people telling me that you are dragging your complaints about me out and supportive of all that I'm having to go through..so tell me why I should pay you so you can continue your attacks against me in the manner that you do.


How much more legal can it get?

I have explained to you previously that what transpires between you and me SHOULD REMAIN between us. Yet it doesn't by you. I also have explained that my attorney, whom you seem to believe is imaginary, would be -- as a term of this all -- would probably require you to sign something sent by his office to you BEFORE any money is sent. Each time I have mentioned that you treated it like a football.


If I were as sick as you claim to be, the last thing I'd want to do is piss more people off and leave a legacy of being the worst deadbeat near comics. Settle your scores while you're still healthy enough to do so.


And again -- you seem to look at this all as me 'owing' you something. I don't and will never need to justify myself on any level to you or the others. You've taken my good name from me. You always had legal recourse and civil discourse, but you always went for the cheap remarks. this so often appears to me to be just a game or ploy to you.

Just pay me what you owe me.


Yes, and you retract all your statements about me PUBLICLY and stop perpetuating the heinous lies that you have been a party to, because you've really earned more than just this money you've claimed you are owed. It may just be that you'll get a legal letter shortly clearing it all. At any rate, you won't get satisfaction until the bullshit stops and that is now in the works. People have not gotten paid because of you and your 'friends' harassing me. That's the pot calling the kettle black, Tim. I'd rather leave you with a bad taste in your mouth than have you think you cheated me.

You'd better check your network of spies. I said something two weeks ago, mentioned that you still owe me money. That's it. Haven't said shit about you since about you publicly anywhere, not even on my own FB page where, forgive me if I'm wrong, fucking Freedom of Speech reigns supreme. I'd love to see the attorney you managed to retain that tells you you can write whatever the fuck you want about people while others have to 'retract' everything bad they may have thought about you since 1997. You DO owe me money: I wrote for you, you published the articles, you promised to pay me and you've gone public many many many times saying you're planning on paying me. You got yourself into this shithole and yet you expect ME to apologize?

Then here's your apology:

I apologize for ever meeting you. I apologize for ever agreeing to work with you. I apologize for dragging so many creators into your slimy grasp. I apologize for writing for you on the strength of your word alone and never demanding a contract first. I apologize for defending you.

How's that work for you?

And don't worry, I know damned good and well you won't be able to keep this response in your pants. I know you're gonna slap this up on your blog as soon as you read it and mangle some words together into what you consider 'writing'. I played it smart this time; I saved each and every screencap and correspondence. 'Preponderance of Evidence' is a wonderful thing.

Artful Angie
02-11-2012, 08:50 AM
I love how it never occurs to Rick that people will STOP attacking him after they get paid.


Yes, and I have had people telling me that you are dragging your complaints about me out and supportive of all that I'm having to go through..so tell me why I should pay you so you can continue your attacks against me in the manner that you do.


Soooo, he's attacking you because you haven't paid him yet. What do you think it might do to your reputation if you actually got around to paying him?

In fact, is there anyone, anywhere in the world, that can speak in Rick's defense and say "He paid me everything he owed me"??

I'd even take "Yeah, it took him forever, and I had to deal with threats and insults, but he eventually paid me in full".

Anyone??

Oh, and can someone screencap his latest "Angie is Mike Malott" blithering for Mike to take to the Oriskany Police please?

leftwingnutcase
02-11-2012, 08:57 AM
I love how it never occurs to Rick that people will STOP attacking him after they get paid.



Soooo, he's attacking you because you haven't paid him yet. What do you think it might do to your reputation if you actually got around to paying him?

In fact, is there anyone, anywhere in the world, that can speak in Rick's defense and say "He paid me everything he owed me"??

I'd even take "Yeah, it took him forever, and I had to deal with threats and insults, but he eventually paid me in full".

Anyone??

Oh, and can someone screencap his latest "Angie is Mike Malott" blithering for Mike to take to the Oriskany Police please?

Kim Draheim of Kim's Comics was payed in full after about two years. His payment? A few bronze age comics of dubious custody.

DocAbsurd
02-11-2012, 09:02 AM
Rick Olney
<rick.olney@gmail.com>
To: Timothy J Tobolski <docabsurd206@gmail.com>
Date: February 11, 2012, 1:55 AM
http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/2012/02/good-point-by-gilligan.html

What do you say... are you man enough to be humble long enough to apologize?

More hoops to jump through. On top of having to sign a waiver from his attorney before he pays (which, by the way, would absolve him from paying me in the first place).

Standing up to you takes far more testicular fortitude than apologizing. Guess which one I'm choosing.

J.R. LeMar
02-11-2012, 09:37 AM
None of the people who have come forward since last 2006, when Rich Johnston started reporting on the troubles regarding the Tales of The Spooky comics has reported being paid in full. All of the various writers and artist (including Scott Reed & James Tournas, who still have outstanding legal judgments against Olney), Ronee for her PR work, and Doc and Danny for their reviews, all remain unpaid.

He has paid other people, during that time, for unrelated stuff. We know he paid Jason Dube for @ least the one image of "Devil Bug". There may have been some other art Dube did, but I don't think we've seen any. He paid Clayton for designing a logo for the AdirondackComicFest. And Valerie Finnigan said that Olney paid her for something, too, although she didn't say what it was, and she did say that she had to call Olney more than once about payment before he paid her.

But, of course, he has excuses for it, and it's always the same. He wasn't going to pay certain people because they broke their NDA's by telling people that he hadn't paid them. He won't pay Doc until Doc apologizes for telling people that Olney hadn't paid him (& notice how it's always about paying what Doc "think" or "claims" he is owed). And it's always someone else's fault for stopping him from paying. As he once said:


Far as TALES OF THE SPOOKY unpaid talents: With me -- you get more with sugar than salt. This is all being very slowly resolved. Emphasis is on very, very slowly. No, read very, very VERY slowly. Those of you being patient can thank the anti-Olney movement. They've stalled it all and had my extra money going towards legal representation instead of paying off those of you that will be paid. Truthfully, it shouldn't be very much longer. *emphasis mine*

That's what he posted on Aug. 21 2007 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=5346267&postcount=37869) That's right, he didn't pay any artist or writers because he was spending the money on "legal representation" instead. Yet, here we are, 4 1/2 years later, and he still hasn't taken any legal action against anyone, despite multiple threats of doing so, nor has anyone ever received any documents from an actual attorney representing Rick Olney, despite multiple promises of documents being sent. And, again, no TOTS talents have been paid.

It's the same pattern you can see in the dialog between him and Val Staples http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/rick-olney-vs-val-staples/
Read through it all and see Olney @ work. Notice how in the beginning he's promising legal action against Val, and that Val will be hearing form Olney's attorney "soon enough" (never happened). Then when it gets to the BC thread, where he said he wanted a chance to make amends, all you see are one excuse after another. First he tries to claim he never got the work from Val (which he never disputed before), that someone else was in charge of receiving the work and arranging payments. Then he tried to say he needed Val to help him contact a bunch of other people first, because he lost everyone's contact info when his hold computer broke. And then on and on he moans about how everyone had been attacking him, and no one was supporting him, and that's why he wasn't able to pay everyone. Yet, he never expressly promises to actually pay Val, even after acknowledging that he owes him. Rich Johnston's flat-out challenges him pay Val first, saying that would be a way for Olney to prove Gail Simone wrong, yet Olney still won't take the challenge, just more double-talk and excuses. All the links are there, people are free to read Rick Olney's own words for themselves, and make up their own minds.

Gail Simone
02-11-2012, 10:09 AM
Just for the record, I got a message from Terry Moore about Rick's claim that Terry had Katchoo and Francine wearing shirts in STRANGERS IN PARADISE to promote Rick and his former comic club.

Unsurprisingly, this is certified bull, just like his other outrageous claims.

Terry has NO KNOWLEDGE of Rick Olney OR of Orca.

At all.

Another case where Rick made up a lie and just kept telling it and telling it forever.

Guapo Mendez
02-11-2012, 10:34 AM
Once more, Rick: if you don't pay someone and he says you're a deadbeat for owing him money, he is right. If you pay someone and he still says you're a deadbeat, he is wrong. He would be lying and we would look badly upon it. When you pay in full someone, the debt is cancelled and there is no more reason to call you names or anything.

It's okay, because you have never paid someone back, so you don't know how it works. But trust me, pay anyone in full and he will have no more cause to complain or besmirch your good name (but we know it's not a good name because you don't pay people you owe).

Outsider
02-11-2012, 11:39 AM
Screen caps:

http://imgur.com/a/nSTQx

Artful Angie
02-11-2012, 01:24 PM
Thanks, Outsider. Do you remember which screencap has him bragging about his donation for The Make-A-Wish foundation? I want to add that link to the email for the Central NY chapter director.

Outsider
02-11-2012, 03:15 PM
Make-A-Wish is mentioned here:

http://i.imgur.com/L0t6js.jpg (http://imgur.com/L0t6j)

This appears to be the only time it has been mentioned on that blog.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-11-2012, 03:38 PM
I think it's Facebook having a burp again. I may shut down and restart the group, so it gets rid of some of the more irrelevent postings and take it back to just warning people to do their research about Rick. J.R. was right that some of the posts responding to Rick's dribble don't need to be on there, mine included.
I noticed it is still down and you search Facebook for Rick Olney, no groups shows up. Have you made a decision yet on what you are doing? Obviously it's okay as long as this thread remains open but once this thread closes it would be a good place to contain information/links for someone on Facebook who searches for his name.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-11-2012, 03:41 PM
Just for the record, I got a message from Terry Moore about Rick's claim that Terry had Katchoo and Francine wearing shirts in STRANGERS IN PARADISE to promote Rick and his former comic club.

Unsurprisingly, this is certified bull, just like his other outrageous claims.
Thanks for asking Terry and getting that confirmation.

J.R. LeMar
02-11-2012, 04:06 PM
I noticed it is still down and you search Facebook for Rick Olney, no groups shows up. Have you made a decision yet on what you are doing? Obviously it's okay as long as this thread remains open but once this thread closes it would be a good place to contain information/links for someone on Facebook who searches for his name.

I thought a simple Page, would be sufficient. Don't necessarily need a Group, that folks have to ask to join, just a Page that folks can click "Like" on and pass around. Something that has a simple explanation of how this began, and a list of all the various links out there for folks to read for themselves. You can even add a link to his blogs for folks to see "both sides." Frankly, I think he's own worst enemy, the more he attempts to defend himself, the more he buries himself. No matter how he tries to sound reasonable, he can't help throwing in the personal insults and cursing, so let folks see it.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-11-2012, 04:35 PM
I think your idea sounds good J.R. Just something simple so if he starts buttering up some artist on Facebook, they can type Rick Olney and a page with links shows up would be very effective and useful.

leftwingnutcase
02-11-2012, 04:57 PM
I have created a new page.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rick-Olney-A-Warning-to-Creative-Professionals/331658570211717?sk=wall

Glenn Barbis Jr.
02-11-2012, 05:11 PM
There is also this one...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rick-Olney-Things-To-Consider/242884132461719

bluecove
02-11-2012, 05:20 PM
I just want to say one thing to/about Rick before this closes for good.

If he were really the innocent man he claims, with a group of "bullies" telling lies about him, he would have simply ignored this thread, and the one(s) before it. If you're a stand-up guy, the best way to prove it is to stay above board, and keep doing what you do. If it's all heresay, with no proof to back it up, people will figure that out for themselves.

Instead, what does Rick do? He creates blog after blog picking apart everyone's words and trying to "defend" himself. His very words are proof that he is the kind of man they say he is. He's literally making their case for them.

Then, of course, there's the problem of all the very public postings he's made, on his own blogs and elsewhere. You make yourself look bad, Rick. How could anyone see the way he's handled his business dealings and think he's an honest person? How could anyone watch him insult and threaten people he owes money to and still believe he's a good guy?

None of this occurs to him, of course. He continues to insist that his life was great until Gail and co. came along, and they ruined it and his reputation. He's never going to get that his goose is cooked, and he's the only one responsible.

Thanks for letting me have my say, folks. I've enjoyed reading your posts and watching you fight the good fight.

Gail Simone
02-11-2012, 05:46 PM
Hey, bluecove, that's exactly right. If all of this is my fault, why do so many people have horror stories of him before I'd even met him? Why do so many people whom I've never even HEARD of have horrible experiences with him?
We've heard dozens of stories over the years, almost all the same. They were friends with Rick, until he turned on them and cheated, threatened, and abused them.

I didn't make any of that happen. Rick did. I just gave them a place to compare notes and THAT's what he hates, most of all.

Gail Simone
02-11-2012, 05:49 PM
I also apologize for the delay, guys. I got a major, cool, late assignment that had to be turned around quickly. I'm writing a final post now for posting soon. Some of the way-off-track posts of the last couple days will be deleted so that people who find this thread will have LOTS of stories from people Rick has cheated right up near the end of the thread, and then I am done with this topic. Hopefully, people will have enough information about the kind of man Rick is, the next time he gets an idea for a delusional project that will never work, that he doesn't have the money, experience, intelligence, or network to support, which he will of course cancel like every project in comics he's tried to put on since 2003.

And for god's sake, whoever is reading this, NEVER pay for anything up front if he says he will reimburse you. NEVER.

Artful Angie
02-11-2012, 05:53 PM
I took my page down in preparation for a new one tonight when I had time. But the ones Left and Glenn set up really give me the option of not needing to. It'll keep it from seeming like the vendetta Rick claims it to be. The ORCA page is enough for me to manage and it's yet another resource for comic fans to find one another and share their love of the industry. Can you really have too many of those kind of pages?

leftwingnutcase
02-11-2012, 06:05 PM
From my FB page's description:

Dear Creative Professional,
If you are approached by an individual named Rick Olney or a representative of this man, if you are approached by Olney or anyone else representing entities known as The Mighty Mini-Con, TightLip Entertainment, ORCA, Adirondathon, or Adirondack Comics Fest, we strongly urge you to run in the other direction.
There is a very long, very well-documented history of non-payment, deceit, emotional manipulation, and fraud in connection with this man and his projects. Despite searching and publicly requesting evidence for over three months, nobody has been able to produce any evidence of any artist ever having been paid in full for their work for TightLip. Many attending professionals to his conventions were promised reimbursement of their expenses, but while some were provided with lodging, none are known to have received full compensation for travel and meal costs, and many have been the subject of vicious personal attacks as a result of having inquired about the promised reimbursement. In addition, Mr. Olney has a considerable history of erratic and unprofessional behavior on many message forums and mailing lists on the internet, several of which have banned him due to his frequently racist, sexist, and homophobic rants, as well as his willingness to hurl vicious insults in response to legitimate questions about his business practices.
As far as we can tell, nearly everyone who has ever had any professional contact with TightLip, the Mighty Mini-Con, or Rick Olney, has a “war story” to tell about being misled, cheated, and used.
You can find more details here:
Happy Birthday Rick Olney, Happy Birthday To You! – http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/06/27/hapy-birthday-rick-olney-happy-birthday-to-you/
EXCLUSIVE: Rick Olney Pays Back $100, $35,502.76 To Go… - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/10/06/exclusive-rick-olney-pays-back-100-35502-76-to-go/
The Tenth Annual Rumour Awards – BEST LACK OF PAYMENT - http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/front-page-comic-news/10787-tenth-annual-rumour-awards-best-lack-payment.html
Rick Olney Trying To Organise Veteran’s Day Weekend Comic Con In New York - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/08/rick-olney-trying-to-organise-veterans-day-weekend-comic-con-in-new-york/
So Who Is Actually Going To Rick Olney’s Comic Con In November? - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/04/so-who-is-actually-going-to-rick-olneys-comic-con-in-november/
Now Matt Busch Turns Against Rick Olney Over Indiana Jones - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/12/now-matt-busch-turns-against-rick-olney-over-indiana-jones/
Rick Olney Cancels Adirondack Comic Con - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/18/rick-olney-cancels-adirondack-comic-con/
Sending Rick Olney A Cease And Desist Letter - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/20/sending-rick-olney-a-cease-and-desist-letter/
Rick Olney Sells Indiana Jones World Map Without Matt Busch Or Lucasfilm’s Permission - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/10/03/rick-olney-sells-indiana-jones-world-wap-without-matt-busch-or-lucasfilms-permission
Lucasfilm Tells Rick Olney To Cease And Desist Over Indiana Jones World Map - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/10/07/lucasfilm-tells-rick-olney-to-cease-and-desist-over-indiana-jones-world-map/
Rick Olney Demands Apology Before He’ll Hand Over Charity Maps And Donations - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/11/26/rick-olney-demands-apology-before-hell-hand-over-charity-maps-and-donations/
Please, do not attempt to do business with Olney. In fact, please pass along this warning to any comics professionals, aspiring comics professionals, retailers, exhibitors, media guests, and fans you know.
Do business with Olney at your own risk.
We would prefer to not do this in such a public manner, but, with Olney again advertising a convention and claiming that he is still planning to publish comic books, the greater good demands we speak out.
Thank you for your attention,
the Undersigned
Shelly Kennedy, Webmaster Unscrewed!
Danny Donovan, Various independent Comics, 911 Emergency Relief by Alternative Comics, Radio Free Comicks
Dave Rothe, Ant #’s 6-9 from Image Comics
Tom Stillwell, Writer/Creator of The Honor Brigade from Spinner Rack Comics
Kurt Busiek, Astro City, Superman
Paul D. Storrie, Revisionary, Gotham Girls, Robin Hood
Scott Reed, Web’s Best Comics
Tony Isabella, Black Lightning, Tony’s Tips
Chuck Dixon, DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, Bongo, Wildstorm
Joanne Ellen Mutch, Rummblestrips, Potlatch, LOTR sketch card artist,
Kevin Huxford, ShotgunReviews.com/Newsarama Contributor
Timothy J Tobolski, UNSCREWED! editor-in-chief
Jim Taylor, The Wraith
Mike Bullock, Lions Tigers & Bears, The Phantom
Blake M. Petit, Comixtreme.com
Scott Shaw!, CAPTAIN CARROT, THE SIMPSONS, SONIC THE HEDGEHOG
Jeff Austin, AC Comics
James Ritchey III, Green Lama, Team Defiant!
Danielle Sylv Taylor, Hollow
Colin McMahon, New Dimension Comics-McMurray
Wil Radcliffe, Noggle Stones
Larime Taylor, Writer/Creator of HOLLOW, Archaia Studios Press
Mercedes R Lackey, Valdemar Series, DAW Books
Larry Dixon, DAW, Baen Books
Jim MacQuarrie, MonkeySpit.net
Alice Woodside, The Daredevil Anniversary Art Quilt Project
Sean McKeever, writer
Steven D. Forbes, Writer of Bullet Time, Co-Writer of Fallen Justice, EiC of Paper Dragonz
Koben Kelly, Newsarama.com, Best Shots, ShotgunReviews.com
Sarah Beach, editor, writer – Shooting Star Comics Anthology #1, Unscrewed! anthology
Lance Boucher, Inter-Fan Productions
Colleen Doran, A Distant Soil
Nat Gertler, About Comics
Johanna Draper Carlson, Comics Worth Reading
Joe Zierman, artist – Big Bang Comics
Martin R. Oakley, formerly of Bloodstained Productions, writer/artist
Kneon Transitt, Gemstone Publishing
Gail Simone, Birds of Prey, Villains United, Gen13, Welcome to Tranquility, Atom
Frank Dirscherl, The Wraith
James A. Owen, Starchild, Mythworld, and Here, There Be Dragons
Richard Neal, Eisner winner Zeus Comics
Brian Pate, Comic Book Conventions.com
Cully Hamner, BLUE BEETLE, DC Comics
Erik Burnham, Shooting Star Comics
Scott McCullar, Shooting Star Comics, DC Comics, West End Games
Butch Guice, Marvel Artist
Brian J. Crowley, Graphic Designer DDP
Gerry Alanguilan, Superman: Birthright, Batman/Danger Girl, Silent Dragon (Wildstorm)
Michael Netzer, DC & Marvel artist

THEDOC
02-11-2012, 06:20 PM
Very nice!!!!!:rock::rock::rock:

leftwingnutcase
02-11-2012, 08:13 PM
Roger Stern tells the story of how he was a dead ringer for Ditko's Peter Parker back in the day. When Romita, Sr. took over, Peter Parker got hot. Roger: "I'm still waiting."

bert
02-11-2012, 09:19 PM
ugh. .he is a vile, vile man.

the quicker you lock this thread and no longer give him something to melt down about, the better.

Outsider
02-11-2012, 09:32 PM
I'm posting this with the expectation that it will be deleted once the thread is closed, which is fine.

If there's any silver lining to this situation, I think that the general awareness that has been made about the dangers of working with someone you don't know, and how to protect yourself as a creator, has been a marvelous thing.

People are more likely to speak up about shady dealings now as a result as well, I think. It's one thing to try to stand up for yourself if you're the only person doing so; it's another if you have the support of others who have been in a similar situation.

On a personal level, I've been following this for years, since way back when (I don't remember the exact year ... 2008? 2007?) when Lying in the Gutters ran a blurb mentioning Mattdoc Martin, and linked to his LiveJournal site, which I began following, which led to a friendship developing between he an I, which led to me illustrating a script of his which sadly was never published but which I had so much fun doing I don't really mind. (I still hope that little jockstrap-clad leprechaun fighting zombies sees the light of day someday, however!) Rick Olney once berated me for being friends with Mattdoc, but to be honest, I feel I came out way ahead there. I've made other friends lately as well as a result of this board.

I think a lot of good work has been done over the years as a result of the many iterations of this board, and applaud all of you who have done so much to try and keep the world a little better place.

HamsterRage
02-11-2012, 09:35 PM
From my FB page's description:

Dear Creative Professional,
If you are approached by an individual named Rick Olney or a representative of this man, if you are approached by Olney or anyone else representing entities known as The Mighty Mini-Con, TightLip Entertainment, ORCA, Adirondathon, or Adirondack Comics Fest, we strongly urge you to run in the other direction.
There is a very long, very well-documented history of non-payment, deceit, emotional manipulation, and fraud in connection with this man and his projects. Despite searching and publicly requesting evidence for over three months, nobody has been able to produce any evidence of any artist ever having been paid in full for their work for TightLip. Many attending professionals to his conventions were promised reimbursement of their expenses, but while some were provided with lodging, none are known to have received full compensation for travel and meal costs, and many have been the subject of vicious personal attacks as a result of having inquired about the promised reimbursement. In addition, Mr. Olney has a considerable history of erratic and unprofessional behavior on many message forums and mailing lists on the internet, several of which have banned him due to his frequently racist, sexist, and homophobic rants, as well as his willingness to hurl vicious insults in response to legitimate questions about his business practices.
As far as we can tell, nearly everyone who has ever had any professional contact with TightLip, the Mighty Mini-Con, or Rick Olney, has a “war story” to tell about being misled, cheated, and used.
You can find more details here:
Happy Birthday Rick Olney, Happy Birthday To You! – http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/06/27/hapy-birthday-rick-olney-happy-birthday-to-you/
EXCLUSIVE: Rick Olney Pays Back $100, $35,502.76 To Go… - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/10/06/exclusive-rick-olney-pays-back-100-35502-76-to-go/
The Tenth Annual Rumour Awards – BEST LACK OF PAYMENT - http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/front-page-comic-news/10787-tenth-annual-rumour-awards-best-lack-payment.html
Rick Olney Trying To Organise Veteran’s Day Weekend Comic Con In New York - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/08/rick-olney-trying-to-organise-veterans-day-weekend-comic-con-in-new-york/
So Who Is Actually Going To Rick Olney’s Comic Con In November? - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/04/so-who-is-actually-going-to-rick-olneys-comic-con-in-november/
Now Matt Busch Turns Against Rick Olney Over Indiana Jones - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/12/now-matt-busch-turns-against-rick-olney-over-indiana-jones/
Rick Olney Cancels Adirondack Comic Con - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/18/rick-olney-cancels-adirondack-comic-con/
Sending Rick Olney A Cease And Desist Letter - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/20/sending-rick-olney-a-cease-and-desist-letter/
Rick Olney Sells Indiana Jones World Map Without Matt Busch Or Lucasfilm’s Permission - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/10/03/rick-olney-sells-indiana-jones-world-wap-without-matt-busch-or-lucasfilms-permission
Lucasfilm Tells Rick Olney To Cease And Desist Over Indiana Jones World Map - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/10/07/lucasfilm-tells-rick-olney-to-cease-and-desist-over-indiana-jones-world-map/
Rick Olney Demands Apology Before He’ll Hand Over Charity Maps And Donations - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/11/26/rick-olney-demands-apology-before-hell-hand-over-charity-maps-and-donations/
Please, do not attempt to do business with Olney. In fact, please pass along this warning to any comics professionals, aspiring comics professionals, retailers, exhibitors, media guests, and fans you know.
Do business with Olney at your own risk.
We would prefer to not do this in such a public manner, but, with Olney again advertising a convention and claiming that he is still planning to publish comic books, the greater good demands we speak out.
Thank you for your attention,
the Undersigned
Shelly Kennedy, Webmaster Unscrewed!
Danny Donovan, Various independent Comics, 911 Emergency Relief by Alternative Comics, Radio Free Comicks
Dave Rothe, Ant #’s 6-9 from Image Comics
Tom Stillwell, Writer/Creator of The Honor Brigade from Spinner Rack Comics
Kurt Busiek, Astro City, Superman
Paul D. Storrie, Revisionary, Gotham Girls, Robin Hood
Scott Reed, Web’s Best Comics
Tony Isabella, Black Lightning, Tony’s Tips
Chuck Dixon, DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, Bongo, Wildstorm
Joanne Ellen Mutch, Rummblestrips, Potlatch, LOTR sketch card artist,
Kevin Huxford, ShotgunReviews.com/Newsarama Contributor
Timothy J Tobolski, UNSCREWED! editor-in-chief
Jim Taylor, The Wraith
Mike Bullock, Lions Tigers & Bears, The Phantom
Blake M. Petit, Comixtreme.com
Scott Shaw!, CAPTAIN CARROT, THE SIMPSONS, SONIC THE HEDGEHOG
Jeff Austin, AC Comics
James Ritchey III, Green Lama, Team Defiant!
Danielle Sylv Taylor, Hollow
Colin McMahon, New Dimension Comics-McMurray
Wil Radcliffe, Noggle Stones
Larime Taylor, Writer/Creator of HOLLOW, Archaia Studios Press
Mercedes R Lackey, Valdemar Series, DAW Books
Larry Dixon, DAW, Baen Books
Jim MacQuarrie, MonkeySpit.net
Alice Woodside, The Daredevil Anniversary Art Quilt Project
Sean McKeever, writer
Steven D. Forbes, Writer of Bullet Time, Co-Writer of Fallen Justice, EiC of Paper Dragonz
Koben Kelly, Newsarama.com, Best Shots, ShotgunReviews.com
Sarah Beach, editor, writer – Shooting Star Comics Anthology #1, Unscrewed! anthology
Lance Boucher, Inter-Fan Productions
Colleen Doran, A Distant Soil
Nat Gertler, About Comics
Johanna Draper Carlson, Comics Worth Reading
Joe Zierman, artist – Big Bang Comics
Martin R. Oakley, formerly of Bloodstained Productions, writer/artist
Kneon Transitt, Gemstone Publishing
Gail Simone, Birds of Prey, Villains United, Gen13, Welcome to Tranquility, Atom
Frank Dirscherl, The Wraith
James A. Owen, Starchild, Mythworld, and Here, There Be Dragons
Richard Neal, Eisner winner Zeus Comics
Brian Pate, Comic Book Conventions.com
Cully Hamner, BLUE BEETLE, DC Comics
Erik Burnham, Shooting Star Comics
Scott McCullar, Shooting Star Comics, DC Comics, West End Games
Butch Guice, Marvel Artist
Brian J. Crowley, Graphic Designer DDP
Gerry Alanguilan, Superman: Birthright, Batman/Danger Girl, Silent Dragon (Wildstorm)
Michael Netzer, DC & Marvel artist

You know what's funny?

In his latest blog the idiot links to this letter. He's also made it so Google now pops up "Lies" next to "Rick Olney" and links back to the CBR Olney thread.

Way to help out your good name Rick. If you ever want to get your "good name" back you're going to have to return the stolen maps and pay the people you lied to and conned Rick. Google's motto is "Don't be evil"

Outsider
02-12-2012, 12:40 AM
One man's experience with ORCA:

http://renaissancegeek.blogspot.com/2007/01/eddie-torial-anecdote-when-eddie-met.html

KJ!
02-12-2012, 05:44 AM
Playing catch-up, but wanted to throw this out.

When this closes, in the first and last posts, could we maybe include links/email/whatever for any future victims? So if they are dealing with Olney, they can quickly find assistance from the right people/group?

Artful Angie
02-12-2012, 07:56 AM
Make-A-Wish is mentioned here:

http://i.imgur.com/L0t6js.jpg (http://imgur.com/L0t6j)

This appears to be the only time it has been mentioned on that blog.

Outsider, thank you for that. He had another post on one of the old blog sites about one of his (possibly imaginary) cons doing a celebrity auction where the proceeds were donated to the Mohawk Valley chapter of the Make-A-Wish foundation, which several people pointed out doesn't exist and never did.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-12-2012, 08:08 AM
Outsider, thank you for that. He had another post on one of the old blog sites about one of his (possibly imaginary) cons doing a celebrity auction where the proceeds were donated to the Mohawk Valley chapter of the Make-A-Wish foundation, which several people pointed out doesn't exist and never did.
I don't know if this relates to what you are looking for but it's the press release for a Mighty Mini-Con in 2002 that claims to be raising money for the Mohawk chapter of Make-A-Wish. I can't find the reference in a recent blog though.

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?194906-Rick-Olney-Still-does-not-pay-freelancers-or-anyone-else&p=8040984&viewfull=1#post8040984

J.R. LeMar
02-12-2012, 08:18 AM
I came across this, I'd totally forgotten about it. Michael Netzer's Open Letter To Rick Olney: http://michaelnetzer.com/rEvolution/content/view/113/

I like where he quotes one of Olney's early lies from when this all started: "Since this has began we've nearly completed Tales of The Spooky ..2, hired and placed 4 new artists of note, in motion. And anchored our June 07 Mighty Minicon."

Right, I remember when he claimed he had a "stable" of artists still working for him. He wouldn't name them, but he swore they were all getting paid, because they didn't break their NDA's, and that TOTS #2 and #3 would be out in 2007. Obviously, that never happened, although we know he did have that successful 2007 minicon (http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?194906-Rick-Olney-Still-does-not-pay-freelancers-or-anyone-else&p=8321964&viewfull=1#post8321964). :lol: Similar to his recent claim of currently having 6 artists working for him and getting paid. Not to mention how, last fall, after Clayton and Michael and all the other confirmed guests had dropped out, he said he had 6 new guests (the "secret 6") signed up to appear @ the Adirondack ComicFest, but he wasn't going to reveal their names publicly until a month before the actual event, so that no one could warn them off (great way to promote and event, BTW).

So the lesson here is, Rick Olney's Imaginary Life is wonderful.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-12-2012, 08:24 AM
Damn, I just looked over to see if he'd blathered anything new today. 10 new posts, all before noon and starting before 7am.

4 more posts and he breaks his meltdown record. Pretty impressive for a guy who once claimed he never reads this thread.

Artful Angie
02-12-2012, 08:31 AM
I don't know if this relates to what you are looking for but it's the press release for a Mighty Mini-Con in 2002 that claims to be raising money for the Mohawk chapter of Make-A-Wish. I can't find the reference in a recent blog though.

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?194906-Rick-Olney-Still-does-not-pay-freelancers-or-anyone-else&p=8040984&viewfull=1#post8040984

That's the one I'm looking for! Thanks, NotLarry!

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-12-2012, 08:33 AM
I have created a new page.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rick-Olney-A-Warning-to-Creative-Professionals/331658570211717?sk=wall

There is also this one...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rick-Olney-Things-To-Consider/242884132461719
Both these linked fine last night and I saved them as bookmarks. Today both links just take me to my own profile.

J.R. LeMar
02-12-2012, 08:34 AM
I was thinking, considering Gail said she plans to remove some irrelevant posts when she locks this thread, it's probably best for us all to refrain from adding new posts (as tempting as it is, even for me), unless it's something completely new, and important, to save her the trouble of having more to go through. So with that, I bid as-salaam-alaikum.

-J.R. (not "Junior") LeMar :cool:

KJ!
02-12-2012, 08:45 AM
Why does he have such a bug up his arse about me being Aussie?

I find it humourous.

''He said this, but HE IS AUSTRALIAN!!!!!!!!!''


Envy?

Artful Angie
02-12-2012, 08:46 AM
Damn, I just looked over to see if he'd blathered anything new today. 10 new posts, all before noon and starting before 7am.

4 more posts and he breaks his meltdown record. Pretty impressive for a guy who once claimed he never reads this thread.

Yeah, and I know we're trying not to comment about his thread anymore (because that's what all the new posts there are: a cry for the attention we're taking away) but I have to just try and clear up the sequence of events in my head:

1) He comments about my post here how no one can ever actually say they've been paid everything they're owed by Rick. He says "not true! I just won't let them speak out!" So the people who owe him money are everybody who broke their NDAs to speak out against him, and the people who got paid and can show the world what a responsible person Rick is? He won't let them out of their NDAs to do just that.

2) Then Alec comments "No. Kim Draheim of Kim's comics says Rick paid him. He just paid him with comics". Rick's response to the one person in the world who could for all intent and purposes be able to defend him?


Yeah, I kicked Kim to the curb already. I have to actually disagree with you though on those books that I handed to him. I gave them to him freely for all the rig-a-ma-roll over the time I needed to give him my next order. He had no money in the pot owed to him. So either he's as touched in the head on the truthful details, or you're manipulating whatever he shared with you. At any rate, I bought three of his music band's CDs and I can now trash those. I don't keep nothing from people that are insincere and scummy... Nice way to alienate retailers from the comic book club, Alex. I'll bet that they'll all be so proud of you for dragging them into your self righteous shit.

"All the rig-a-ma-roll"... Gosh, imagine having to pay someone before they will let you rack up another bill with them! The horror! No wonder he's been banned from every comic shop in Central New York.

3) Then later that same night, Rick posts about a conversation he had with Kim.


Rick -
I have just withdrawn myself from all discussion of any of it. If pressed I tell people that you were square with me, and that is all that I know firsthand. I am friends and have dealings with many of the people involved in those on-line discussions. I read and contribute to none of them. I appreciate your sympathy for my daughter and our family.

And Rick's respoonse is basically "Gosh. Kim is such a good friend to me. I hate that he seems like he has to stop being my friend... After I just "kicked him to the curb" and everything in an earlier post. Good thing I won't be giving him "monies" to put in his pot anymore."


I don't like losing friends. I'm simply not going to be a topic of discussion by people presenting themselves as being my friend. Kim is a straight shooting type of guy. He's just not somebody I'll be buying anything from in the coming years. So yeah, it sucks to lose a person I thought was a friend, but Alex Frazier sucks more.


Hope it makes more sense to you guys than it does to me.

KJ!
02-12-2012, 08:47 AM
I was thinking, considering Gail said she plans to remove some irrelevant posts when she locks this thread, it's probably best for us all to refrain from adding new posts (as tempting as it is, even for me), unless it's something completely new, and important, to save her the trouble of having more to go there. So with that, I bid as-salaam-alaikum.

-J.R. (not "Junior") LeMar :cool:

I'm curious what he could have possible meant by this bit (Your post, content regarding Doc Absurd): ''Now before I go and say something that wouldn't be politically correct, Junior, you'll need to go back over what I actually did say to Tolbolski''

Artful Angie
02-12-2012, 09:45 AM
And one other tidbit I find funny:


Which reminds me, I have a couple ORCA invoices here to be paid. Can you handle that? I mean, you are representing yourself as being a 'responsible person/party' to (ORCA) Organized Readers of Comics Associated, are you not?

So thanks for admitting that you in fact still have outstanding bills for ORCA that you never attempted to resolve. Because you "forgot" that bills have to be paid.

Yeah, go ahed and send them on over! I guess the real ORCA will have to show you how it's done, Rick. A lesson in how to be responsible is long overdue for you. You got the snail mail address. Or better yet, scan them and send them on over to my email address: ArtfulAngie@gmail.com . I won't hold my breath waiting for you to send me an email. Just like I'm sure those vendors didn't hold their breath all these years waiting for you to pay them.

AIPman1
02-12-2012, 10:55 AM
All you really had to state was, "Rick, during my time working with you I've had a few high points and many more low points. To satisfy that you feel I am a sincere person and never really wished you or your projects harmed, I do so sincerely apologize for any and all things that I may have said. Now please pay me."

Olney, literally, expects people to BEG him to be paid. And then, you know full well he is going to laugh and say, no, not good enough, here's another hoop to jump through to put you off.

He REALLY thinks he is "winning the war" and getting "his good name" back. I cant imagine ANYONE, EVER doing business with that man.

Outsider
02-12-2012, 11:50 AM
One man's experience with ORCA:

http://renaissancegeek.blogspot.com/2007/01/eddie-torial-anecdote-when-eddie-met.html

Does anyone have problems with this link? It works fine for me on two different machines and different browsers, but at least one person out there can't get it to work.

leftwingnutcase
02-12-2012, 11:56 AM
The Facebook groups keep getting deleted. For someone who does not care about a "Facebook page dedicated to me" he really must care. Either way, it is clearer and clearer that Rick cares more than anyone else does about himself. As such, I will put no more effort into this, as he is an insignificant speck not worthy of my time.

bert
02-12-2012, 11:56 AM
did someone capture the picture of Waid where he tries to insult him by calling him a character from Happy Days -- and chooses the ONLY non-redhead (other than Fonzie) from the gang to compare Waid to?

man.. . what a Maroon!


almost as hysterical as his correcting of Alec on the spelling of "Malott" (which Mike obviously typoed once)



Mike Malot PMed me earlier today. He is taking a break from Facebook for a while because of Rick's threats. He asks all of us that if he is threatened again during his absence, we should call the Oriskany Police. They have a file on Rick.



Ummm... yeah. Malott is spelled with two L's there, rocket scientist. And you know him oh so well, huh?

BWAAA-HAAAAA-HAAAAAAA

oh yeah, Ricky's is just a typo too. . . .I'm sure the spittle flying from his lips obscured the keyboard, and it was an honest mistake.

but sheesh.. Instant-Karma gonna getcha!

Artful Angie
02-12-2012, 12:10 PM
And he's trying to defend himself with alleged messages from Kim which sound strangely like what Rick sounds like when he sock puppets. Nice try, Rick.

And then there's this bit with Gail:


Let's not forget that everyone who has come forward as a member has said they never got all these monthly goodies and left disappointed.... Which again makes me ask...Rick ADMITS to at least ten percent of his group never getting ANYTHING Orca promised. That's at least180 people, Rick. By your admission, and you're a known liar.


That is pure unadulterated bullshit. Gail Simone believes that she can state something and it is taken as truth by all. This isn't comic book writing, you read haired witch. You better be prepared to provide names and substantiation in a civil court of law, Gail.

Actually, it's not bullshit! Because what Gail is saying is a fact, and YOU keep pointing that out, Rick. Follow along:

1) What Gail is saying is that those people who come foward do so and say that they never received these monthly goodies Rick promised them.

2) Rick himself states that there are about 10% of ORCA people who didn't get the goodies. So is Rick lying?

3) Rick himself also states that he won't let those other people who did get the stuff come forward and defend him. But that's because they're all in the Phantom Zone or something.

But Rick's latest defense for why those 10% "slipped through the cracks (of his ass)" and didn't receive the stuff?


ORCA was actually is three tiered where its members are concerned. But before I tell you more, you'd have to join the roster and I don't see that happening. You're not organized comic book reader material.

Oh! So Orca wasn't run by Rick! It was a three tiered system, like a pyramid scheme. He was just the president. He wasn't the one responsible for sending that stuff out. Somebody else was, and they were incompetent and didn't do it! So Rick was just incompetent that as their leader he didn't make sure they did their job while he was busy not meeting HIS responsibilities!

Thanks, Rick. That clears that up nicely for us.

I swear he doesn't have a brain cell left in that ripe melon on his neck. Otherwise he'd really think about what he's saying before he says it. Like with his Kim Dreheim posts. First he insults the guy, then tries to make it seem like he's really sad that he's not Rick's friend. Then makes up a sock puppet message supposedly from Kim to say he's staying out of it, but uses the same wording Rick used in a previous unrelated post.

I think I'll make an action figure called The Sock Puppet Olney Doll. It's a badly made copy of any other action figure out there in stores today, with the exact same voice chip in every one of them: It says the same things Rick says in the same way Rick says them. I can start by picking up one of THOUSANDS of unsold Ric Olie figures and using it.

MyNameIsNotLarry
02-12-2012, 02:23 PM
Rick's really lost it today hasn't he? He's now at 18 posts of crazy. I wonder how much drool pools on his chin as he types all this out? So many better ways he could be spending his Sunday.

Despite his protests he still can't name 5 current storylines. He can't even name current books he buys. He's stuck with his childhood likes and has no clue what is out now.

Also Rick, the link http://isitfactorisitfiction.blogspot.com/2008/09/notice-of-rejection.html still works fine. It's funny I'm somehow a liar for linking to that blog that clearly shows Rick doesn't know how to use Google Maps.

I bet Rick can get plop out another half a dozen rants tonight. Dance monkey dance.

HamsterRage
02-12-2012, 02:24 PM
For those unfamiliar with Rick Olney, please see the countless amounts of documentation below about his cons, lies and thievery. He's an unstable dangerous and volatile man. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH HIM!

Classic thread:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=156451

Previous thread at CBR:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=304938

For those unfamiliar here's the Tony Isabella's Letter about him:


Dear Creative Professional,
If you are approached by an individual named Rick Olney or a representative of this man, if you are approached by Olney or anyone else representing entities known as The Mighty Mini-Con, TightLip Entertainment, ORCA, Adirondathon, or Adirondack Comics Fest, we strongly urge you to run in the other direction.
There is a very long, very well-documented history of non-payment, deceit, emotional manipulation, and fraud in connection with this man and his projects. Despite searching and publicly requesting evidence for over three months, nobody has been able to produce any evidence of any artist ever having been paid in full for their work for TightLip. Many attending professionals to his conventions were promised reimbursement of their expenses, but while some were provided with lodging, none are known to have received full compensation for travel and meal costs, and many have been the subject of vicious personal attacks as a result of having inquired about the promised reimbursement. In addition, Mr. Olney has a considerable history of erratic and unprofessional behavior on many message forums and mailing lists on the internet, several of which have banned him due to his frequently racist, sexist, and homophobic rants, as well as his willingness to hurl vicious insults in response to legitimate questions about his business practices.
As far as we can tell, nearly everyone who has ever had any professional contact with TightLip, the Mighty Mini-Con, or Rick Olney, has a “war story” to tell about being misled, cheated, and used.
You can find more details here:
Happy Birthday Rick Olney, Happy Birthday To You! – http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/06/27/hapy-birthday-rick-olney-happy-birthday-to-you/
EXCLUSIVE: Rick Olney Pays Back $100, $35,502.76 To Go… - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/10/06/exclusive-rick-olney-pays-back-100-35502-76-to-go/
The Tenth Annual Rumour Awards – BEST LACK OF PAYMENT - http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/front-page-comic-news/10787-tenth-annual-rumour-awards-best-lack-payment.html
Rick Olney Trying To Organise Veteran’s Day Weekend Comic Con In New York - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/08/rick-olney-trying-to-organise-veterans-day-weekend-comic-con-in-new-york/
So Who Is Actually Going To Rick Olney’s Comic Con In November? - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/04/so-who-is-actually-going-to-rick-olneys-comic-con-in-november/
Now Matt Busch Turns Against Rick Olney Over Indiana Jones - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/12/now-matt-busch-turns-against-rick-olney-over-indiana-jones/
Rick Olney Cancels Adirondack Comic Con - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/18/rick-olney-cancels-adirondack-comic-con/
Sending Rick Olney A Cease And Desist Letter - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/20/sending-rick-olney-a-cease-and-desist-letter/
Rick Olney Sells Indiana Jones World Map Without Matt Busch Or Lucasfilm’s Permission - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/10/03/rick-olney-sells-indiana-jones-world-wap-without-matt-busch-or-lucasfilms-permission
Lucasfilm Tells Rick Olney To Cease And Desist Over Indiana Jones World Map - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/10/07/lucasfilm-tells-rick-olney-to-cease-and-desist-over-indiana-jones-world-map/
Rick Olney Demands Apology Before He’ll Hand Over Charity Maps And Donations - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/11/26/rick-olney-demands-apology-before-hell-hand-over-charity-maps-and-donations/

Please, do not attempt to do business with Olney. In fact, please pass along this warning to any comics professionals, aspiring comics professionals, retailers, exhibitors, media guests, and fans you know.
Do business with Olney at your own risk.
We would prefer to not do this in such a public manner, but, with Olney again advertising a convention and claiming that he is still planning to publish comic books, the greater good demands we speak out.
Thank you for your attention,
the Undersigned
Shelly Kennedy, Webmaster Unscrewed!
Danny Donovan, Various independent Comics, 911 Emergency Relief by Alternative Comics, Radio Free Comicks
Dave Rothe, Ant #’s 6-9 from Image Comics
Tom Stillwell, Writer/Creator of The Honor Brigade from Spinner Rack Comics
Kurt Busiek, Astro City, Superman
Paul D. Storrie, Revisionary, Gotham Girls, Robin Hood
Scott Reed, Web’s Best Comics
Tony Isabella, Black Lightning, Tony’s Tips
Chuck Dixon, DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, Bongo, Wildstorm
Joanne Ellen Mutch, Rummblestrips, Potlatch, LOTR sketch card artist,
Kevin Huxford, ShotgunReviews.com/Newsarama Contributor
Timothy J Tobolski, UNSCREWED! editor-in-chief
Jim Taylor, The Wraith
Mike Bullock, Lions Tigers & Bears, The Phantom
Blake M. Petit, Comixtreme.com
Scott Shaw!, CAPTAIN CARROT, THE SIMPSONS, SONIC THE HEDGEHOG
Jeff Austin, AC Comics
James Ritchey III, Green Lama, Team Defiant!
Danielle Sylv Taylor, Hollow
Colin McMahon, New Dimension Comics-McMurray
Wil Radcliffe, Noggle Stones
Larime Taylor, Writer/Creator of HOLLOW, Archaia Studios Press
Mercedes R Lackey, Valdemar Series, DAW Books
Larry Dixon, DAW, Baen Books
Jim MacQuarrie, MonkeySpit.net
Alice Woodside, The Daredevil Anniversary Art Quilt Project
Sean McKeever, writer
Steven D. Forbes, Writer of Bullet Time, Co-Writer of Fallen Justice, EiC of Paper Dragonz
Koben Kelly, Newsarama.com, Best Shots, ShotgunReviews.com
Sarah Beach, editor, writer – Shooting Star Comics Anthology #1, Unscrewed! anthology
Lance Boucher, Inter-Fan Productions
Colleen Doran, A Distant Soil
Nat Gertler, About Comics
Johanna Draper Carlson, Comics Worth Reading
Joe Zierman, artist – Big Bang Comics
Martin R. Oakley, formerly of Bloodstained Productions, writer/artist
Kneon Transitt, Gemstone Publishing
Gail Simone, Birds of Prey, Villains United, Gen13, Welcome to Tranquility, Atom
Frank Dirscherl, The Wraith
James A. Owen, Starchild, Mythworld, and Here, There Be Dragons
Richard Neal, Eisner winner Zeus Comics
Brian Pate, Comic Book Conventions.com
Cully Hamner, BLUE BEETLE, DC Comics
Erik Burnham, Shooting Star Comics
Scott McCullar, Shooting Star Comics, DC Comics, West End Games
Butch Guice, Marvel Artist
Brian J. Crowley, Graphic Designer DDP
Gerry Alanguilan, Superman: Birthright, Batman/Danger Girl, Silent Dragon (Wildstorm)
Michael Netzer, DC & Marvel artist

http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/letter/index.php


and here's the open letter from Michael Netzer about him
http://michaelnetzer.com/rEvolution/content/view/113/

An Open Letter to Rick Olney
Comics
Written by MN (Michael Netzer)

Wednesday, 06 December 2006

Hello Rick,

As a friend whom I've known for several years and a supporter of my efforts on behalf of the comics creators, I'd prefer not to rebuke you publicly as I'm about to, regarding the recent controversy with your lateness of payment to comics creators whom you contracted for work, and the subsequent open criticism of your actions by Rich Johnston and others. I do this, however, because of our friendship, in hopes that you'd take heed of the damage you bring upon yourself by your conduct.

I was sorry, as surely anyone who knew you was, at hearing about the passing away of your mother, may she rest in peace. I was also sorry, however, to hear your repeated complaints regarding your personal problems and the persistent touting of your misfortunes as an excuse for your failures. Since I've known you, you've been of the more outspoken big talkers in the comics community, wherein every convention and event you've attempted to organize appears to have been afflicted by one unfortunate circumstance after the other. The problem is that we come to hear and remember more about your personal difficulties than the failed endeavors you organize. You might have saved us all one needless sorrow by complaining less and doing a little more, but such is apparently beyond you.

Everyone suffers personal difficulties that can otherwise destroy endeavors they undertake. Most good people, however, choose to shed less crocodile tears and carry on with their lives. Your misfortunes are the title of your inevitable biography and it is a saddening one because you use them to conceal your ineptness and hypocritical ulterior motives, as you persist in falsely espousing a regard for truth and justice in your conduct. There is no truth and justice in how you're conducting yourself now, Rick. It's time to take a good look at your actions and consider the repercussions they bring.

The creators, Chuck Dixon, Val Staples and others, who've stepped forth asking for payment for their work, are not at fault here. They trusted you by producing work for you. You are the one who owes them and you're the one who's avoiding them, as they've stated openly. Your response, to pursue litigation procedures against them for violating non-disclosure agreements, reveals you for the deceitful man you are. All your hypocritical rantings regarding justice for the creators, over the years, are now washed down the drain, as you reveal yourself to be no better than others who've taken this course before you.

Tight Lip Entertainment/Rich Johnston and others have been more than fair with you, in the face of your belligerent threats to pursue legal actions against creators whom you owe money to. Have you no shame? No conscience? No inclination of the stain you bring upon your reputation? Is your wallowing in the publicity of this affair blinding you to the damage it inflicts upon you and others?

Is the outstretched tongue in your logo meant to reflect your disregard for the creators you hire, while you conceal it with the false and hypocritical mask of love-struck eyes?

You say that: " Since this has began we've nearly completed Tales of The Spooky ..2, hired and placed 4 new artists of note, in motion. And anchored our June 07 Mighty Minicon."

Well Rick, if you can do all this now, why can't you simply pay the creators whom you owe money to, before continuing on with business as usual? Are you using your misfortune, and now theirs, to evade paying them and then sueing them for taking you to task for it, Rick?

Are you doing the same thing to these comics creators as you did to the web hosting service which asked me to intervene on their behalf two years ago, due to your evading paying them for services they gave you? Is this your modus operandi; to use personal tragedies and misfortunes in order to abuse the goodwill of others, while promising to pay for them, and never doing so?

You understand I'm at liberty to disclose your withholding of payment to the web hosting service because I never signed a non-disclosure agreement about it with you. In all fairness though, I'm willing to sign one now, retro-actively, so that you can sue me also for violating it. Just send me a copy and I'll sign it, if this is the way you choose to conduct your affairs.

Or change your ways, Rick Olney. Stop avoiding those you owe money to and compensate them for their work. Stop making excuses by publicly complaining about your misfortunes and get on with your work. Do not begin new endeavors while you have previous unfulfilled obligations. Apologize to everyone whom you've defamed with your accusations.

Straighten your ways, Rick. All the lawyers in the world can't wipe away the stain that covers you now.

and the judgment against him:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/10/06/exclusive-rick-olney-pays-back-100-35502-76-to-go/


Plus here's some of the other links:
http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/content.php?page=olney_thread_index
http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/content.php?page=About_Unscrewed
http://rickolney.blogspot.com/
http://rickolney.tumblr.com/
http://rickolney.typepad.com/blog/
http://isitfactorisitfiction.blogspot.com/
http://torrentialspirit.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/#!/RickOlney
https://twitter.com/#!/RecklessRicOlie
https://twitter.com/#!/OlneyTheLonely
http://rickolney.posterous.com/warning-rick-olney
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/mohawk-ny/TA782171LDF103GDU#comments
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74827
http://theofficialguidetodeadbeats.blogspot.com/2011/06/publisher-rick-olney-deadbeat.html

http://renaissancegeek.blogspot.com/2007/01/eddie-torial-anecdote-when-eddie-met.html

http://www.bleedingcool.com/?s=rick+olney

http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/tag/person:+rick+olney

http://troublewithcomics.com/post/9675024064/my-experience-with-rick-olney

http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/02/28/rick-olney-at-it-again/

http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/01/02/waid-and-simone-take-aim-at-olney/

The thread where Rick pretends ORCA is legit:
http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=453164&page=1

Plus all of JR's documentation:
http://iblogalot.com/category/rick-olney/
http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/rick-olney-vs-matt-busch/
http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/rick-olney-vs-val-staples/
http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/rick-olney-vs-jim-tournas/
http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/rick-olney-vs-scott-reed/
http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/lying-in-the-gutters-with-rick-olney/
http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/a-warning-to-comics-professionals-about-rick-olney/

KJ!
02-12-2012, 05:14 PM
Wow.

Really christian of you, Olney.

Posting a picture of Micky Mouse reading a book titled 'How To Kill' next to quotes by Matt Doc Martin.

I'd regard that as a threat, and I'd be reporting it.

It's FAR from the first time he's done this (remember his 'iKill' one, for starters), and we know he has firearms, and is mentally unstable. Seriously, this is NOT a man that should be supervising children at these supposed ORCA meetings.

KJ!
02-12-2012, 07:39 PM
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=156451&page=3549

Copies of emails between Olney and Tightlip creators during their tenure.

Says it all, really.

EDIT: This is also a good one. Shows how delusional this man truly is.

This thread is from 12 years ago. http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=444609

Yet he thinks it's US that have 'sullied his good name'.

That 'good name' appears to have been absent for 12 years. Enough to declare it legally dead.

AIPman1
02-13-2012, 04:19 AM
Olney posted poetry of Don Krick's on his blog. Don...ball's in your court to report the copyright infringement, as he obviously has no right to post your work on his hate-fest.

KJ!
02-13-2012, 05:17 AM
The crazy has started again.

Hopefully this will be locked soon.

He really is in meltdown mode again, isn't he?

Pathetic.

SEND MATT HIS DAMN MAPS BACK YOU CROOK.

KJ!
02-13-2012, 05:19 AM
''So Junior, keep spinning your drek about me. Your buddy Allah will grant your absolution, I'm sure. ''

I see. Now I believe I understand what he meant by his 'politically incorrect' comment he withheld.

After all, we had the account a few pages back of a guy who kicked Rick off his FB list for religious bigotry and general Olney-level stupidity.

And there's this, about Don's poetry: ''Yeah, about that -- I checked. No copyright listed. I can't even determine if you're actually THE Don Krick that claims to have originally wrote them. So they'll remain.''


How can a man who has been sued THIS many times be so damn stupid and ignorant about how the legal system works?

THEDOC
02-13-2012, 05:44 AM
''So Junior, keep spinning your drek about me. Your buddy Allah will grant your absolution, I'm sure. ''

I see. Now I believe I understand what he meant by his 'politically incorrect' comment he withheld.

After all, we had the account a few pages back of a guy who kicked Rick off his FB list for religious bigotry and general Olney-level stupidity.

And there's this, about Don's poetry: ''Yeah, about that -- I checked. No copyright listed. I can't even determine if you're actually THE Don Krick that claims to have originally wrote them. So they'll remain.''


How can a man who has been sued THIS many times be so damn stupid and ignorant about how the legal system works?

Um, it's RO what else can be said. The man needs to take meds.!!!!!!!

THEDOC
02-13-2012, 05:45 AM
I've been waiting 2 years or so for his exposé on Small Press Fandom. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz!

Artful Angie
02-13-2012, 06:00 AM
It's just Rick trying to desperately cling to what little attention he can still muster. It's not like he's getting any on his FAKE ORCA FB page. After all...


Well, being frank here... and I CAN be because I don't believe we have anyone with the first name of 'Frank' on the roster or in this online group for the REAL Organized Readers of Comics Association -- tee hee... chuckle, chuckle. Anyway, the quiet here is starting to become deafening. What's up? You new people make me feel like I invited space aliens from ALTUS 5 into my home. lol

So he started a page to talk about comics... And nobody talks about comics on it. Must be why he has less members than the REAL ORCA FB group. But then, Barbara has always said he's had problems with his member. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Well, let's look at this supposed devoted ORCA member who joined because of their "love" of comics.


Do I get one? lol, Maybe it would help me know more about the comic world.

Or how would YOU like to join a group where your "leader" has to warn you about his critics and makes sure you don't trust one another? Sounds just like the original ORCA I remember:


we lost another person that came here to get some kind of dirt on me, I guess. <<sigh>> You other members kindly let me know if you should get any harassing or spam email telling you all about the lies that a certain group perpetuates about me, wouldja? Thanks!

Don has already been made aware of Rick posting the poetry, and told me yesterday he's not even going to respond to Rick's childish attempt to call him out. That's what his latest meltdown has been about: trying to get people mad enough to speak before thinking and make threats that he can go to Facebook or the police with. He keeps trying to claim FB shut down our Rick Olney page. Sorry to disappoint, but (wait for the surprise...are you ready?) that's a Rick Olney untruth! Gasp! Rick was not truthful about something?!?!? Say it ain't so, Joe! Yes, small children everywhere are weeping at this change in outlook of Rick.

My advice still remains the same: let him stew. He's his own worst enemy. Or if you're anally obsessed like Rick he's his own worst enema. Because he's the one that'll have to deal with the stink of the shit that comes out of him.

Guapo Mendez
02-13-2012, 06:16 AM
It amazes me that nothing will dispel a Rick Olney Lie: not even word from the creator of Francine and Katchoo. If Rick says they used Orca shirts, it was because of his organization, Terry Moore's word be damned.

Matt Doc Martin
02-13-2012, 06:18 AM
For those unfamiliar with Rick Olney, please see the countless amounts of documentation below about his cons, lies and thievery. He's an unstable dangerous and volatile man. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH HIM!

Classic thread:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com...d.php?t=156451

Previous thread at CBR:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com...d.php?t=304938

For those unfamiliar here's the Tony Isabella's Letter about him:

Dear Creative Professional,
If you are approached by an individual named Rick Olney or a representative of this man, if you are approached by Olney or anyone else representing entities known as The Mighty Mini-Con, TightLip Entertainment, ORCA, Adirondathon, or Adirondack Comics Fest, we strongly urge you to run in the other direction.
There is a very long, very well-documented history of non-payment, deceit, emotional manipulation, and fraud in connection with this man and his projects. Despite searching and publicly requesting evidence for over three months, nobody has been able to produce any evidence of any artist ever having been paid in full for their work for TightLip. Many attending professionals to his conventions were promised reimbursement of their expenses, but while some were provided with lodging, none are known to have received full compensation for travel and meal costs, and many have been the subject of vicious personal attacks as a result of having inquired about the promised reimbursement. In addition, Mr. Olney has a considerable history of erratic and unprofessional behavior on many message forums and mailing lists on the internet, several of which have banned him due to his frequently racist, sexist, and homophobic rants, as well as his willingness to hurl vicious insults in response to legitimate questions about his business practices.
As far as we can tell, nearly everyone who has ever had any professional contact with TightLip, the Mighty Mini-Con, or Rick Olney, has a “war story” to tell about being misled, cheated, and used.
You can find more details here:
Happy Birthday Rick Olney, Happy Birthday To You! – http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/06/...rthday-to-you/
EXCLUSIVE: Rick Olney Pays Back $100, $35,502.76 To Go… - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/10/...5502-76-to-go/
The Tenth Annual Rumour Awards – BEST LACK OF PAYMENT - http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/f...k-payment.html
Rick Olney Trying To Organise Veteran’s Day Weekend Comic Con In New York - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/...n-in-new-york/
So Who Is Actually Going To Rick Olney’s Comic Con In November? - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/...n-in-november/
Now Matt Busch Turns Against Rick Olney Over Indiana Jones - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/...indiana-jones/
Rick Olney Cancels Adirondack Comic Con - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/...ack-comic-con/
Sending Rick Olney A Cease And Desist Letter - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/...desist-letter/
Rick Olney Sells Indiana Jones World Map Without Matt Busch Or Lucasfilm’s Permission - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/10/...lms-permission
Lucasfilm Tells Rick Olney To Cease And Desist Over Indiana Jones World Map - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/10/...nes-world-map/
Rick Olney Demands Apology Before He’ll Hand Over Charity Maps And Donations - http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/11/...and-donations/

Please, do not attempt to do business with Olney. In fact, please pass along this warning to any comics professionals, aspiring comics professionals, retailers, exhibitors, media guests, and fans you know.
Do business with Olney at your own risk.
We would prefer to not do this in such a public manner, but, with Olney again advertising a convention and claiming that he is still planning to publish comic books, the greater good demands we speak out.
Thank you for your attention,
the Undersigned
Shelly Kennedy, Webmaster Unscrewed!
Danny Donovan, Various independent Comics, 911 Emergency Relief by Alternative Comics, Radio Free Comicks
Dave Rothe, Ant #’s 6-9 from Image Comics
Tom Stillwell, Writer/Creator of The Honor Brigade from Spinner Rack Comics
Kurt Busiek, Astro City, Superman
Paul D. Storrie, Revisionary, Gotham Girls, Robin Hood
Scott Reed, Web’s Best Comics
Tony Isabella, Black Lightning, Tony’s Tips
Chuck Dixon, DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, Bongo, Wildstorm
Joanne Ellen Mutch, Rummblestrips, Potlatch, LOTR sketch card artist,
Kevin Huxford, ShotgunReviews.com/Newsarama Contributor
Timothy J Tobolski, UNSCREWED! editor-in-chief
Jim Taylor, The Wraith
Mike Bullock, Lions Tigers & Bears, The Phantom
Blake M. Petit, Comixtreme.com
Scott Shaw!, CAPTAIN CARROT, THE SIMPSONS, SONIC THE HEDGEHOG
Jeff Austin, AC Comics
James Ritchey III, Green Lama, Team Defiant!
Danielle Sylv Taylor, Hollow
Colin McMahon, New Dimension Comics-McMurray
Wil Radcliffe, Noggle Stones
Larime Taylor, Writer/Creator of HOLLOW, Archaia Studios Press
Mercedes R Lackey, Valdemar Series, DAW Books
Larry Dixon, DAW, Baen Books
Jim MacQuarrie, MonkeySpit.net
Alice Woodside, The Daredevil Anniversary Art Quilt Project
Sean McKeever, writer
Steven D. Forbes, Writer of Bullet Time, Co-Writer of Fallen Justice, EiC of Paper Dragonz
Koben Kelly, Newsarama.com, Best Shots, ShotgunReviews.com
Sarah Beach, editor, writer – Shooting Star Comics Anthology #1, Unscrewed! anthology
Lance Boucher, Inter-Fan Productions
Colleen Doran, A Distant Soil
Nat Gertler, About Comics
Johanna Draper Carlson, Comics Worth Reading
Joe Zierman, artist – Big Bang Comics
Martin R. Oakley, formerly of Bloodstained Productions, writer/artist
Kneon Transitt, Gemstone Publishing
Gail Simone, Birds of Prey, Villains United, Gen13, Welcome to Tranquility, Atom
Frank Dirscherl, The Wraith
James A. Owen, Starchild, Mythworld, and Here, There Be Dragons
Richard Neal, Eisner winner Zeus Comics
Brian Pate, Comic Book Conventions.com
Cully Hamner, BLUE BEETLE, DC Comics
Erik Burnham, Shooting Star Comics
Scott McCullar, Shooting Star Comics, DC Comics, West End Games
Butch Guice, Marvel Artist
Brian J. Crowley, Graphic Designer DDP
Gerry Alanguilan, Superman: Birthright, Batman/Danger Girl, Silent Dragon (Wildstorm)
Michael Netzer, DC & Marvel artist
http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/letter/index.php


and here's the open letter from Michael Netzer about him
http://michaelnetzer.com/rEvolution/content/view/113/

An Open Letter to Rick Olney
Comics
Written by MN (Michael Netzer)

Wednesday, 06 December 2006

Hello Rick,

As a friend whom I've known for several years and a supporter of my efforts on behalf of the comics creators, I'd prefer not to rebuke you publicly as I'm about to, regarding the recent controversy with your lateness of payment to comics creators whom you contracted for work, and the subsequent open criticism of your actions by Rich Johnston and others. I do this, however, because of our friendship, in hopes that you'd take heed of the damage you bring upon yourself by your conduct.

I was sorry, as surely anyone who knew you was, at hearing about the passing away of your mother, may she rest in peace. I was also sorry, however, to hear your repeated complaints regarding your personal problems and the persistent touting of your misfortunes as an excuse for your failures. Since I've known you, you've been of the more outspoken big talkers in the comics community, wherein every convention and event you've attempted to organize appears to have been afflicted by one unfortunate circumstance after the other. The problem is that we come to hear and remember more about your personal difficulties than the failed endeavors you organize. You might have saved us all one needless sorrow by complaining less and doing a little more, but such is apparently beyond you.

Everyone suffers personal difficulties that can otherwise destroy endeavors they undertake. Most good people, however, choose to shed less crocodile tears and carry on with their lives. Your misfortunes are the title of your inevitable biography and it is a saddening one because you use them to conceal your ineptness and hypocritical ulterior motives, as you persist in falsely espousing a regard for truth and justice in your conduct. There is no truth and justice in how you're conducting yourself now, Rick. It's time to take a good look at your actions and consider the repercussions they bring.

The creators, Chuck Dixon, Val Staples and others, who've stepped forth asking for payment for their work, are not at fault here. They trusted you by producing work for you. You are the one who owes them and you're the one who's avoiding them, as they've stated openly. Your response, to pursue litigation procedures against them for violating non-disclosure agreements, reveals you for the deceitful man you are. All your hypocritical rantings regarding justice for the creators, over the years, are now washed down the drain, as you reveal yourself to be no better than others who've taken this course before you.

Tight Lip Entertainment/Rich Johnston and others have been more than fair with you, in the face of your belligerent threats to pursue legal actions against creators whom you owe money to. Have you no shame? No conscience? No inclination of the stain you bring upon your reputation? Is your wallowing in the publicity of this affair blinding you to the damage it inflicts upon you and others?

Is the outstretched tongue in your logo meant to reflect your disregard for the creators you hire, while you conceal it with the false and hypocritical mask of love-struck eyes?

You say that: " Since this has began we've nearly completed Tales of The Spooky ..2, hired and placed 4 new artists of note, in motion. And anchored our June 07 Mighty Minicon."

Well Rick, if you can do all this now, why can't you simply pay the creators whom you owe money to, before continuing on with business as usual? Are you using your misfortune, and now theirs, to evade paying them and then sueing them for taking you to task for it, Rick?

Are you doing the same thing to these comics creators as you did to the web hosting service which asked me to intervene on their behalf two years ago, due to your evading paying them for services they gave you? Is this your modus operandi; to use personal tragedies and misfortunes in order to abuse the goodwill of others, while promising to pay for them, and never doing so?

You understand I'm at liberty to disclose your withholding of payment to the web hosting service because I never signed a non-disclosure agreement about it with you. In all fairness though, I'm willing to sign one now, retro-actively, so that you can sue me also for violating it. Just send me a copy and I'll sign it, if this is the way you choose to conduct your affairs.

Or change your ways, Rick Olney. Stop avoiding those you owe money to and compensate them for their work. Stop making excuses by publicly complaining about your misfortunes and get on with your work. Do not begin new endeavors while you have previous unfulfilled obligations. Apologize to everyone whom you've defamed with your accusations.

Straighten your ways, Rick. All the lawyers in the world can't wipe away the stain that covers you now.
and the judgment against him:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/10/...5502-76-to-go/


Plus here's some of the other links:
http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/conten...y_thread_index
http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/conten...bout_Unscrewed
http://rickolney.blogspot.com/
http://rickolney.tumblr.com/
http://rickolney.typepad.com/blog/
http://isitfactorisitfiction.blogspot.com/
http://torrentialspirit.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/#!/RickOlney
https://twitter.com/#!/RecklessRicOlie
https://twitter.com/#!/OlneyTheLonely
http://rickolney.posterous.com/warning-rick-olney
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/moha...03GDU#comments
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74827
http://theofficialguidetodeadbeats.b...-deadbeat.html

http://renaissancegeek.blogspot.com/...eddie-met.html

http://www.bleedingcool.com/?s=rick+olney

http://www.journalfen.net/community/...on:+rick+olney

http://troublewithcomics.com/post/96...ith-rick-olney

http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/02/28...y-at-it-again/

http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/0...-aim-at-olney/

The thread where Rick pretends ORCA is legit:
http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthread...=453164&page=1

Plus all of JR's documentation:
http://iblogalot.com/category/rick-olney/
http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/rick...vs-matt-busch/
http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/rick...s-val-staples/
http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/rick...s-jim-tournas/
http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/rick...vs-scott-reed/
http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/lyin...th-rick-olney/
http://iblogalot.com/2011/12/01/a-wa...ut-rick-olney/

To help this stay in focus amongst all of Rick Olney's continued rants.

Peanut has stated that all the links will be taken down in the "coming months". How delightfully open-ended!

Hamster, J.R. (not Junior, Rick, you moron), Outsider, and others have done amazingly in keeping to focused stuff as this winds down. Please help!

Outsider
02-13-2012, 07:01 AM
Screenshots, with comments when possible:

http://imgur.com/a/xyOoo

Gail Simone
02-13-2012, 07:13 AM
A Final Word About Rick Olney And Industry Predators In General

In 2003, I was invited to a convention in Herkimer, New York, called the Mighty Mini-Con, by a man named Rick Olney.

The convention was not a success by any standard, it was extremely poorly attended and it was clear that the organizer had no idea what he was doing. He was unfortunately lacking in every aspect a convention organizer needs to be proficient in to make an event work.

I had been a guest at the Second Genesis Con in Portland, and at the massive SDCC event in San Diego previously, and had been treated very well, despite my relative newcomer status. Everything they promised, they delivered, with professionalism and integrity. So I was trusting, despite a couple friends warning me of Rick's instability and difficulties with the truth.

Rick invited me, and when it came time to buy the tickets, he convinced me to buy them and he would reimburse me for my ticket immediately. (my husband was coming as well, and I did not ask for Rick to buy his ticket at any point). That was a lie. Then he said he would get the money to me before I left, that was a lie. Then he told me the money would be given to me at the con, that was a lie. Then he told me the money would 'beat me home,' and that, too, was a lie. He continued to withhold reimbursement for my ticket for many weeks...occasionally telling me the check was 'in the mail,' or some other excuse. He became increasingly paranoid and bizarre and threatening as I continued to ask for this money to be returned.

During this time, Rick several times tried to float the idea that I would be given some kind of bonus, "for the inconvenience." I did not ask for these, and of course, they never arrived, either. My mother was in the hospital, and I simply needed him to keep his word. It wasn't until much later that I learned this is Rick's pattern for deception, but more about that in a minute.

Weeks later, I received a check from Rick. It did not cover my entire airfare, let alone any of the 'bonuses,' he was going to include. I stress again, these 'bonuses' were his idea...he was going to send a hundred dollars to cover the money still owed from my ticket and for expenses we incurred because his credit card was declined after the convention...they hadn't booked us a hotel, and could not afford to buy a dinner we didn't even want at that point. He also claimed he was going to pay my husband's airfare, something I never asked for. When I make an agreement, I hold up my end. I didn't want 'bonuses,' I wanted him to hold up HIS end.

TWO YEARS LATER, he still hadn't paid the remainder of my airfare. I have posted the emails here, a dozen times he told me it was coming, or it was in the mail, or that he had to 'get money from a special account.' After TWO YEARS, I told him to stuff the remaining money, and I simply never wanted to hear from him again. Because I told him to keep that money, RICK OLNEY DOES NOT OWE ME A DIME. I keep my word. I told him to keep his money. I would not accept it now if he grew a sense of decency and paid it.

For three years after the con, I said nothing in public about Rick or the convention. I found his online behavior to be revolting...he was kicked off many of the industry's message boards for racism, tantrums, hostility and actual physical threats. Anyone questioning him became an enemy. At the comicon.com board, his very NAME is banned...you literally can't post his name there anymore.

Then he started a publishing imprint for comics, mostly featuring his own characters. And he immediately began running it the same way he ran his convention...with no knowledge, experience, talent, funding, or integrity. And very shortly, none of the people working for this imaginary vanity project were paid. A dozen creators have come forward, all telling the same story, that they did the work and were never paid. That in fact, they were insulted, bullied, threatened, and otherwise abused.

At that point, I had had enough, and I started a thread warning people to stay away from this man. When professionals like Chuck Dixon and Val Staples are being called 'unprofessional' by a serial deadbeat with no idea what he's doing, it rankles. Several pros asked me for help, as they had put aside work with legitimate companies to work for Rick, and now it was clear he never had any intention of paying any of them, nor did he have the knowledge or funding to actually print the books.

We were astounded by how many people came forward once people started comparing notes. Comic stores, vendors, artists, writers, Rick's own PR people, former members of his club, and convention guests all were telling the same story. That Rick has lied to them, bullied them when they talked about it, and threatened them physically or legally to get them to stay quiet. We never found a SINGLE creator who came forward and said that they had been paid on time, in full, by Rick Olney. Most were paid nothing, and never will be. He has repeatedly boasted joyfully that he will never be forced to do the right thing, even when, as is the case with writer Scott Reed, he is taken to court and loses.

If you go back about twenty pages or so on this thread, you will see just a few of the emails and posts from creators and others who have unfortunately crossed this man's path. They all regret it. Rick has a backpack full of excuses for every one, none of which match the recollection of the witnesses and most of which is disproved in his own words by email. But the bottom line is, Rick never, ever paid most of these people.

So for several years, we had a thread going, to warn people to avoid any and all of Rick's fanboy delusional projects. The idea was always to prevent people from getting shafted. When it became hard for Rick to wrangle savvy pros in his own country, he started talking with unpublished creators who didn't have any experience, then pros from other countries who might not be aware of his history, and eventually, I kid you not, convicted felons still incarcerated, to try to keep his fanboy dream going.

Eight years later, none of the things he's roped these poor people in on have come to pass--No Mohawk Valley Comic Club, no haunted house attraction, no comic books, no conventions, no nothing.
I kept this thread going for one reason--to try to make sure more unsuspecting pros are aware of Rick's long history of terrible behavior towards people in the industry. But for me, it's time to move on. There are many, many other people who have now spoken out about Rick's behavior, and there are many websites keeping records of all the people he's cheated. And at this point, if someone googles Rick's name, sees all the evidence, all the testimonials from people he has cheated, and they are STILL foolish enough to get involved with them, no amount of talking from me or anyone else is going to make a difference.
The evidence is out there.

Just a few posts ago, a poster posted a bunch of excellent links from various news sites that have reported Olney's broken promises in detail.

Comics legend Tony Isabella warns everyone here:
http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/tony/?frames=n;read=243580&expand=1

For a detailed run-down of a few of Rick's abuses of people who trusted him, J.R. LeMar has an excellent set of links:
http://iblogalot.com/tag/rick-olney-2/

I thank all the people who have kept accurate histories of Rick's abuses, victims, and constantly changing bag of excuses. I particularly want to thank the many, many people who came forward with their own stories, despite physical and legal threats to keep quiet about his practices. A lot of positive things came from this thread, but the best possible outcome is that some people ended up NOT getting ripped off, lied to, abused and threatened. This was a case where the internet allowed people to compare notes, and find a long-time pattern, and hopefully warn others to avoid a similar fate.

I am doing one more post, and then this thread will be shut down. There are many other sites that are keeping an eye on this man, and others like him, and they are probably more helpful to the potential victim than this one, as they present the facts without the conversation, distractions and occasional jocularity that sometimes took this thread over. I met some wonderful people here, so that's another unexpected and pleasant side effect. And I was reminded again and again that MOST people in the industry DO have integrity and ethics.

One rotten example only makes the rest shine better in comparison.

So thank you, everyone, and good night (after one last post!).

Gail Simone
02-13-2012, 07:50 AM
How To Spot Rick Olney When He Approaches You

I thought it would be worthwhile to post the exact approach Rick uses to get what he wants without paying.
If you somehow manage to disbelieve the dozens of firsthand testimonials of industry people regarding this man,
if you choose to ignore their warnings, take a look at this list and see if it matches his behavior with you.

Say you have something of use or value to Rick. It could be comics, it could be talent, it could be anything.

STEP ONE: He flatters you beyond all reason. He proclaims himself to be your biggest fan. And he's going to be
your benefactor...he's going to do everything in his power to make you get the recognition, money, or
credentials you want. He finds what you want, and tells you he will supply it. But first, flattery, flattery, flattery.
He uses this technique every time, and it is especially effective on people just breaking into the industry, or those
who are aspiring to do so.

STEP TWO: He tells you a huge sack of nonsense about his credentials, claims so ridiculous (and completely bull*&^%),
that they somehow seem credible because no sane person would make them up. He tells you credentials he doesn't
have...he's friends with Stan Lee, he invented the idea of comics in the classroom, his comic club had 1800 members
and gave away 700000 comics, George Lucas named a character and toy after him in Phantom Menace, the film
Iron Man II has a cameo character that is supposed to be him, half a dozen characters in comics are based on him
or his club mascot, on and on and on...it's endless. And most people do not have the resources or inclination
to check these claims. So it SOUNDS like he actually is in the industry in some capacity. He isn't (and the claims
are all false).

STEP THREE: He promises you extravagant treatment. He will fly you out to his cons, pay for everything,
you will be treated like royalty, paid an appearance fee, ride in town cars...or, if he's trying to get you to work
for free, he will offer you a high page rate and lots of exposure. He has no capacity to do any of these things,
ever. But he will promise them.

STEP FOUR: He will lay out a long, long conspiracy theory where a few internet trolls are trying to ruin his good name.
He will play the sympathy card here...you will feel sorry for him. Until the moment you read dozens of firsthand
accounts of people who have been told this same line of nonsense. Does it REALLY sound right to you that
dozens of people have come forward, all telling the same story, and none were paid, and yet somehow,
the response is all to try to crush some weird little man in upstate New York? Use your reason,
read the testimonials. Look past the flattery and the promise of money you will NEVER receive.

STEP FIVE: He will issue you a boilerplate contract that he got off the internet that has nothing
to do with the industry and makes little sense in this context. An NDA will be included.

STEP SIX: He will immediately begin breaking promises. Immediately. Pay dates will be missed. These
will be blamed on a non-existent bookkeeper. He will have to 'draw from a special account.' He will
tell you the check is in the mail. We all heard all those excuses. Sometimes he would forget which
excuse he used last time and try it again weeks later with the same person. You will NOT be paid.
His answer will always be for you to keep working. You've come this far, right? You are going
to risk everything over a small amount of money? Keep working. He will have endless excuses,
which will hinge on your human decency--he will have deaths in the family, illnesses, and other
catastrophic problems. They won't stop him from having internet tantrums or telling people the
check is in the mail when it isn't, all they seem to prevent is him keeping his word.

STEP SEVEN: As it becomes clear that you are not getting paid, and you are yet another of his
victims, he will start to show his true colors. He will start to threaten you, mildly at first. Threats
to your career, legal threats. At this point, he is trying to bully you into work he hasn't
paid for. He will use things he learned against you that you told him in confidence.

STEP EIGHT: He will try stretching you along. This happens with everyone he abuses in this manner...
he will offer some sort of bonus you didn't ask for, 'for the inconvenience.' Everything from
t-shirts, to bonuses, to merchandise, to comics...he's going to be a magnanimous guy and
even though you are being SO MEAN by not trusting him, just because he's broken every promise,
he's going to be the bigger guy and give you this bonus. When he pays you. Which he never will.
These bonuses never appear. But he will still tell people he gave them to you. For months,
he told people he paid my husband's airfare to his con, when he hadn't even fully paid MY airfare.
Then one day, he just admitted he hadn't, and tried out a new lie, that I had demanded he pay
my husband's airfare. Just like that, like a switch was thrown, the old lie was discarded and a
new one put in place. It's weird as hell. Don't fall for it.

STEP NINE: Here, he will begin inventing hoops for you to jump through, additional steps to
do before you will get paid. If you don't do them, you won't be paid. If you DO do them, you
won't be paid, you'll just get more hoops. New paperwork he needs, he'll 'lose your email and
contact info,' receipts he never asked for will need to be produced, additional fixes to the work,
on and on. All delaying tactics. He told his former PR person, in public, that she just needed
to sign an NDA to get paid. She said fine, I'll sign it. He immediately changed his mind, the NDA
was worthless and she wouldn't be paid. Hoops, hoops, hoops. I don't know if he just likes
sticking the knife in, or it's a delaying tactic. But it makes zero difference, you won't be paid.

STEP TEN A: At this point you have the choice of either giving up and forgetting about it, in which
case, you will never be paid, or going public about it, in which case, you will never be paid.
If you don't go public, he will come up with an excuse not to pay you. He won't answer your
emails or phone calls. You won't be paid.

STEP TEN B: If you DO go public, he will use that as an excuse not to pay you. The NDA, which
offers NO protection for a deadbeat employer who broke the contract, will be the excuse. But what
if, like, say, Chuck Dixon, you were never given an NDA, you didn't sign an NDA, and the work was
completed and accepted? You STILL will NOT be paid.

STEP ELEVEN: Once you are on Olney's never-ending enemies list, there is no level he won't stoop
to. He will insult, harass, threaten...he will use racist, homophobic and misogynistic language. He will
issue physical and legal threats. Just last month he posted a smug mocking taunt to a woman who
had stood up to him, over the DEATH OF HER HUSBAND AND CHILD. This is a man who will tell
you endlessly what an honorable Christian man he is. He delighted in telling an artist who trusted
him that he would never be paid, while that man's angelic baby daughter was in the hospital near
the very end of her too-short life. He will try to embarrass and hurt you for daring to speak out
about his non-payment and bad behavior.

And you will never, ever, ever be paid.


If anyone, not just Rick, but ANYONE in the comics industry treats you like this, WALK AWAY.

They are poison. They can't help your career, and you aren't doing them any favors. They are not
well-intended goofs.

MOST people in comics are great. I have been fortunate enough to be involved in probably close to
a hundred conventions and appearances and haven't had a single bad experience or dishonest
promoter in the batch, EXCEPT for the Mighty-Mini Con, which I wish to God I had never agreed to
attend.

MOST are great. Don't let one person make you think it's all bad.

But BE AWARE. The internet allows you to communicate, to make sure a publisher or con organizer is on
the level. Take that ten minutes, be wary of false flattery and promises, and you will save
yourself endless misery later.

Thanks, and good day!

Gail Simone
02-13-2012, 07:52 AM
That's it, thank you, everyone.

Remember, when a publisher or con organizer deals fairly with you, PASS THAT INFO ALONG!

Those people deserve a pat on the back, and deserve attention for doing things right!

sk716
12-29-2012, 06:55 PM
Rick Olney passed on 12/28/12. We offer condolences to his family but in light of this the Mods no longer feel that keeping this thread stuck is appropriate nor is it necessary.