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Haunted Brandon
01-21-2012, 07:14 AM
Can you picture Olney reading this thread and getting on the phone to frantically copyright the characters?

"Hello.. is this the copyright office? Great! I have some great original comic characters I would like to get a copyright on. Wait, that costs MONEY? How about you give me the copyright first and I can reimburse you later. You see I am a famous comic publisher and I even have a Star Wars character nam..*click* hello? HELLO??"

Matt Doc Martin
01-21-2012, 07:58 AM
I might just DO a Kid Mummy comic on 24-hour Comics Day, just to have a claim on the trademark. In fact, I'm tempted to do that every year, with whatever dumbass thing he's claiming to be working on while he continues to threaten Tony Isabella with legal doom. One competent creator can generate more decent creative work in one day per year than Rick can per decade. And it IS approaching a decade since he started with all this crap.

I support this plan.

MacQuarrie
01-21-2012, 08:46 AM
Can you picture Olney reading this thread and getting on the phone to frantically copyright the characters?

"Hello.. is this the copyright office? Great! I have some great original comic characters I would like to get a copyright on. Wait, that costs MONEY? How about you give me the copyright first and I can reimburse you later. You see I am a famous comic publisher and I even have a Star Wars character nam..*click* hello? HELLO??"

Plus, copyright only protects work that has actually been created. You can't copyright ideas, concepts or daydreams, only the actual written and drawn pages.

I love the idea of doing a 24 Hour Comic Day project.

Matt Doc Martin
01-21-2012, 08:58 AM
Plus, copyright only protects work that has actually been created. You can't copyright ideas, concepts or daydreams, only the actual written and drawn pages.

I love the idea of doing a 24 Hour Comic Day project.

I do think you have drawn before...as I think I have a piece you did for me.

Have at it!

CutterMike
01-21-2012, 09:50 AM
Hmmmmm... "Kid Mummy -- The Fastest Undead Gunslinger in the West!" Bring the mummy back to life through the traditional string of unlikely coincidences in a San Francisco penny arcade where he's on display, circa 1875. Send him up against supernatural threats -- make it a tongue-in-cheek "Seriously Weird Western Tales" sort of book.

It's a pity that the Three Stooges already used the mummy of King Rootin-Tootin, 'cause that would be ideal... Maybe I could go with the mummy of King Hutsutralston...

I may need to think about this...

HamsterRage
01-21-2012, 10:17 AM
Personally I don't want to create of have anything to do with creating something that alludes to Olney in anyway. The man is an egotistical delusional poisonous asshole who takes pleasure from anything that he thinks remotely references him.

I'd much rather focus on my work and in this thread focus our energy on seeing what can be done to get the maps back.

Speaking of which... I noticed a number of people from California were looking at his blog before he closed it. Wouldn't surprise me if it were lawyers for Lucasfilm.

Haunted Brandon
01-21-2012, 11:04 AM
Hmmmmm... "Kid Mummy -- The Fastest Undead Gunslinger in the West!" Bring the mummy back to life through the traditional string of unlikely coincidences in a San Francisco penny arcade where he's on display, circa 1875. Send him up against supernatural threats -- make it a tongue-in-cheek "Seriously Weird Western Tales" sort of book.


I am thinking that the mummy was freed from it's tomb by a notorious con-man named Magnus who is attempting to raid the tomb of it's riches. Magnus frees the mummy for protection against the team of archaeologists he hired to unearthed the tomb, but then failed to pay.

And of course, he found the tomb's location using a stolen map.

Gail Simone
01-21-2012, 01:09 PM
I might just DO a Kid Mummy comic on 24-hour Comics Day, just to have a claim on the trademark. In fact, I'm tempted to do that every year, with whatever dumbass thing he's claiming to be working on while he continues to threaten Tony Isabella with legal doom. One competent creator can generate more decent creative work in one day per year than Rick can per decade. And it IS approaching a decade since he started with all this crap.

James, you remain awesome. And we miss you!

MacQuarrie
01-21-2012, 02:03 PM
Personally I don't want to create of have anything to do with creating something that alludes to Olney in anyway. The man is an egotistical delusional poisonous asshole who takes pleasure from anything that he thinks remotely references him.
Think of the fun that could be had. Take the characters in directions he would utterly hate, like making them support Obama and express liberal politics, and make his Mary Sue characters the butt of the jokes.

The Monster Squad discovers that Magnus is manipulating and exploiting them, so they throw him out, and ultimately stand by to watch him die horribly when one of his idiotic plots goes wrong and backfires on him.

The Freedom 3 lead the charge against the corrupt GOP politicians who have turned the Marines into their personal brute squad, fighting against the "gun barrel democracy" of the corporate powers that own Congress. They find out that the Olney sockpuppet character is an unwitting tool of TPTB, and ditch him; the corporate overlords take him out as a loose end.

And then file for copyright protection, preventing him from ever using those characters. Hee.

Gail Simone
01-21-2012, 03:09 PM
The thing to do would be to make Magnus Grimoire a notorious deadbeat.

leftwingnutcase
01-21-2012, 06:06 PM
Just because a character is a Mary Sue does not make it bad. Just tougher to write well. And since Olney couldn't write well to save his rather sizable posterior, all bets are off.

Artful Angie
01-21-2012, 06:50 PM
And then have the Freedom Three or Kid Mummy decide that the ills of the world are all because of adult entertainment, and send them after the adult literature mogul, Phineas Zinestud!

Coppervale Studio
01-21-2012, 07:07 PM
Hey, dear Gail - miss you too. Just been hella busy, mostly. I just wrapped the sixth Imaginarium Geographica book, and I'm working on a new secret project that starts going wide in a week or so. A few months ago, a worldwide bestselling novelist called me up and said he was a fan of my work, and wanted to know if I'd like to collaborate on a new YA series of books. So we are - we even already have a producing team in Hollywood. And I promise - when the merchandising kicks in I WILL name an action figure after you. Just because. ;)

Artful Angie
01-21-2012, 07:10 PM
Also, we've talked about what happened to Crappy Tinglings, but just because I was curious I followed the link and thought I'd post it for conversation.

So let's start with....


Blog has been removed

Sorry, the blog at somethingstingling.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.

Did you expect to see your blog here? See: 'I can't find my blog on the Web, where is it?'

So I click there....



I can't find my blog on the Web, where is it?



If you can't find your blog online and you're certain that you (or one or your team members if you have a team blog) didn't delete your blog, then the first thing to do is make sure you've typed in the correct URL. If your blog is published with a custom domain, make sure you've correctly entered your settings in order for your blog to appear online.

If your blog isn't showing up in search results, you might have marked "No" for the option "Let search engines find your blog" in the Basics tab under Settings. If you're using our upgraded interface, you can access Settings through the drop-down menu next to the gray Post List icon. The option can be found in the Privacy section under Settings | Basic .

The final thing to do is review Blogger's policies to see if you might have violated our Terms of Service. If you've typed in the correct URL, haven't deleted your blog yourself, and your custom domain settings are correct, then please contact us for further assistance.

So let's take a look at the Blogger Policies, and see if any of them might have caused Rick's blog to be removed. I'll just pick out some specifics....


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Anyone see where Rick might have caused himself some problems yet?

Dragonbat
01-21-2012, 07:31 PM
Hey, dear Gail - miss you too. Just been hella busy, mostly. I just wrapped the sixth Imaginarium Geographica book, and I'm working on a new secret project that starts going wide in a week or so. A few months ago, a worldwide bestselling novelist called me up and said he was a fan of my work, and wanted to know if I'd like to collaborate on a new YA series of books. So we are - we even already have a producing team in Hollywood. And I promise - when the merchandising kicks in I WILL name an action figure after you. Just because. ;)

Book VI is finished?! Fantastic! Can't wait til I can pre-order!

bert
01-21-2012, 08:08 PM
yep. . ditto!

LOVE the series, and if you remember, the book I got from you for a friend's kid's Birthday? (when I met you at BookPeople a couple years back in Austin?).

yep. . kid's hooked, and has borrowed all my books in the series to continue reading!

:p

leftwingnutcase
01-22-2012, 06:52 AM
Do you all remember when Rick ranted long-windedly about ethics, and then posted a picture of a group of black kids reading comics, and said, "All kinds of ethics read comics!"

Artful Angie
01-22-2012, 09:03 AM
Do you all remember when Rick ranted long-windedly about ethics, and then posted a picture of a group of black kids reading comics, and said, "All kinds of ethics read comics!"


He's an equal opportunity offender. No ethics too different for him to rant about. LOL

Artful Angie
01-22-2012, 09:15 AM
And if anyone would like to notify the Estate of Jack Kirby for the UNAUTHORIZED SWIPING of that photo in Rick's last blog, the email address is RDFRENCH@VERIZON.NET .

I think they would take a dim view of Rick using the memory of Jack Kirby to slur Gail and the industry Jack spent his whole life working in to teach kids like Rick was, and still is, the difference between right and wrong.

That's called ethics, little Ricky.

AIPman1
01-22-2012, 10:44 AM
Fun! That's effective use of our time! Keep posting Rick! We are all ears about the great things you have to say.

SarahBeach
01-22-2012, 03:09 PM
Fun! That's effective use of our time! Keep posting Rick! We are all ears about the great things you have to say.


Well, "great things" is rather much of a stretch, Ian. But I could go along with the word "interesting."
:D

AIPman1
01-22-2012, 04:14 PM
OH? They are great in many ways...Greatly mis-guided, greatly twisted, etc....great examples of things not to say or do.....

Artful Angie
01-23-2012, 03:15 AM
Uh oh! Sounds like someone sent the Kirby family an email. I went to Ricky's blegh today to see if he has spouted any more of his usual bile, and noticed this on his feedjit notice:


A visitor from Los Angeles, California arrived from simonkirbyjr.blogspot.com and viewed "Sequential Soul: Avengers Assemble! (or, If Not The Past, then What?)" 8 hours 26 mins ago

Whoopsies!

Gail Simone
01-23-2012, 06:39 AM
Someone there could just be doing a google search, couldn't they?

Gail Simone
01-23-2012, 06:59 AM
Okay, I'm just going to say it. I don't get it.

I understand Sarah's complaint about unauthorized photos. That's valid and understandable and if that's why they took down his stupid blog, good.

But I don't get the complaints about images in his column from comic book covers and the like. We all use those. What am I missing here? Why would
showing an Avengers cover be a bad thing?

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-23-2012, 08:36 AM
I don't think showing an Avengers cover is a bad thing, or a picture of Jack Kirby. To me it's coming across as, "hey Rick's not actually doing anything at the moment that crosses a line/trying to scam someone, so let's find things to bug him about."

That picture of Jack Kirby on his blog? I found it on 9 other pages in a brief search, anyone telling the Kirby family about those 9 pages?

AIPman1
01-23-2012, 08:54 AM
I think the issue that was brought up was that in the same blog post he talked about Kirby, he also was slamming Gail. Which - I doubt actually concerns the Kirby family any. Not even sure it should concern US all so much, I was kinda joking about it being an effective use of our time.

Gail Simone
01-23-2012, 09:31 AM
I barely even noticed. Seriously...I'm not as talented as Will Eisner?

Big SURPRISE, there, Rick! :)

Artful Angie
01-23-2012, 11:00 AM
I barely even noticed. Seriously...I'm not as talented as Will Eisner?

Big SURPRISE, there, Rick! :)

Rick insults are getting a bit tamer since Blogger shut down his other blegh. Coincidence or just the failing of his addled mind?

Gail Simone
01-23-2012, 11:10 AM
I think the few people reading his blog that aren't us wouldn't like it if he started showing his true colors on that blog, so he mostly leaves his feces fascination elsewhere.

SarahBeach
01-23-2012, 12:45 PM
Yeah, I thought the harping about his using the Kirby photo excessive. It's obviously a photo shot for publicity purposes.

I reported the infringement because the two pictures he used of me were taken by friends for specific purposes (one at an organization's function), and were easily identified as such. He could have lifted photos of me from my website (though they are copyright my photographer, they were taken for publicity) and I wouldn't have complained. Heck, if he'd lifted a photo of me from one of the San Diego Comic Con breakfast group shots with Gail, I wouldn't have minded (and those again are not necessarily the most flattering ones of me). Of course, it would have been up to the owner of those photos to protest.

Now, he wants to get by claiming he's posting photos of people for "educational" purposes, so others will know what we look like. Except that since his accompanying words indicate he's really on the verge of inciting harassment... not so educational.

But yeah, I wouldn't say much about his using images of covers to illustrate points in his columns. Heck, I do that on my Scribbler's Guide blog, although I do try to remember to acknowledge copyright -- and also not hotlink images hosted on someone else's account (stealing bandwidth is still a problem for some internet users).

MacQuarrie
01-23-2012, 01:01 PM
Okay, I'm just going to say it. I don't get it.

I understand Sarah's complaint about unauthorized photos. That's valid and understandable and if that's why they took down his stupid blog, good.

But I don't get the complaints about images in his column from comic book covers and the like. We all use those. What am I missing here? Why would
showing an Avengers cover be a bad thing?

I think there is a very clear, bright red line between what should be reported and what should not. It's about usage. Sarah's photos are one category. The Jack Kirby photo is another; it's a standard headshot taken and distributed specifically to be used for purposes such as Olney is doing, to accompany articles and editorial pieces in the press.

What's not okay? When he shows a piece of copyrighted art (such as an illustration of the Avengers) dropped into a cover design for his fanzine. Putting the art on his website, no big deal. Using it as a cover design for a publication, that's a breach of Copyright, trademark, and the individual artist's rights. That's when you report it.

Another not-okay use: When the photo or art accompanies an article that is defamatory, libellous or in violation of Blogspot's Terms of Service.

Eye on the ball. Nitpicking him to death is only going to validate his claim that we're just a bunch of haters.

Tom Stillwell
01-23-2012, 01:15 PM
Let's just focus on keeping Rick from taking advantage of people and leave the other stuff behind. It's unimportant and makes us look petty.

AIPman1
01-23-2012, 01:32 PM
somewhere, there is a blog no one reads, full of posts no one has seen, that Rick Olney posts to daily and giggles about. "I've shown them!" he thinks. "You need an NDA just to get the URL of this one! Now I can post anything I want!"

Artful Angie
01-23-2012, 01:37 PM
Well, I wasn't sure about the Kirby photo, which is why I mentioned it here. Given Rick's penchant for blowing his stories beyond the limits of reality, it wouldn't be long before having a picture of Kirby on the blegh would turn into "WhenI was a child, I spent weekends watching my great-uncle Jack Kirby use me as a model for whenever he had to draw The Thing yelling at some kids on Yancy Street. Gosh, those were the days! And then my great-uncle Jack introduced me to this kid named George Lucas, and etc..etc..etc..Ric olie...blah..blah..."

Given the big lawsuit that the Kirby Estate was going through with Marvel a while back, my understanding was they were being very protective of Jack's image. Not the comic covers, but Jack himself. If no one contacted them, then no biggie. I was going to, but didn't want to seem too petty about it. I figured it would sound better coming from someone else if they felt it was trampling on a copyrighted image.

I went to that blog link though from the Feedjit list, and it seems to be completely about Rick, though. Is it the same person who does that Torrential Spirit blog?

Gail Simone
01-23-2012, 03:26 PM
It's not a big deal. I see no reason not to mention when Rick does something hilarious, it's kind of like watching a crooked politician stumble over his alibi or something. It's funny.

But please keep it in perspective.

Artful Angie
01-23-2012, 03:38 PM
It's not a big deal. I see no reason not to mention when Rick does something hilarious, it's kind of like watching a crooked politician stumble over his alibi or something. It's funny.

But please keep it in perspective.


You got it.

But does anyone know who set up that Stan Kirby Jr blog?

JTPencils
01-23-2012, 03:54 PM
By the way, Rick has no clue who Angie is...(hehe)

Angie is Olney's Bizarro clone... the complete opposite of the repugnant one himself.

AIPman1
01-23-2012, 04:13 PM
OH NO!!!! Rick cant figure out who Angie is because, it's one of his split personalities!!!!!

JTPencils
01-23-2012, 04:19 PM
We saw some of the concept art...the artist was talented, but the ideas were terrible, their was a female character called Frankenborg, I kid you not.


Thanks Gail... I was the one that came up with the design for "Kid Mummy" and "Frankenborg". Horrible story... horrible writing to be sure... but I still liked the designs I came up with. Ah well...

I was going to grab the images from the Unscrewed site... but it appears that the domain name has elapsed. It was the only place I had the images stored.

Matt Doc Martin
01-23-2012, 04:29 PM
Thanks Gail... I was the one that came up with the design for "Kid Mummy" and "Frankenborg". Horrible story... horrible writing to be sure... but I still liked the designs I came up with. Ah well...

I was going to grab the images from the Unscrewed site... but it appears that the domain name has elapsed. It was the only place I had the images stored.

Is Unscrewed still active? If not, where am I sending money to?

Gail Simone
01-23-2012, 04:30 PM
Thanks Gail... I was the one that came up with the design for "Kid Mummy" and "Frankenborg". Horrible story... horrible writing to be sure... but I still liked the designs I came up with. Ah well...

I was going to grab the images from the Unscrewed site... but it appears that the domain name has elapsed. It was the only place I had the images stored.

I didn't realize you did those, JT!

Well, that explains why the art didn't suck. :)

But they really were clunky as hell as concepts! Nice art, terrible writing!

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-23-2012, 05:29 PM
You got it.

But does anyone know who set up that Stan Kirby Jr blog?
A quick bit of research indicates that a person using the name Simon Kirby Jr, made the blogs,
http://rickolney.blogspot.com/
http://rickolneysucks.wordpress.com/
http://rickolney.posterous.com/
http://rickolney.tumblr.com/

So I think it's fair to assume they are behind the http://simonkirbyjr.blogspot.com/ as well. Or someone has taken their name which while possible seems unlikely. I wanted to add that upon reflection, knowing who is behind the blog doesn't matter and I didn't need to look it up but since I already wrote this post, no deleting it now.

MacQuarrie
01-23-2012, 06:12 PM
Unscrewed should be back up soon. Somehow I overlooked the renewal.

JTPencils
01-23-2012, 06:28 PM
I didn't realize you did those, JT!

Well, that explains why the art didn't suck. :)

But they really were clunky as hell as concepts! Nice art, terrible writing!

Thanks again. Though I was primarily working on the (equally horrible) Freedom Three thing... there was a time crunch (mandated by "you know who") on getting character designs out... so I jammed those out in an attempt to help Cesar with the work load. So I took the Kid Mummy and the Frankenborg characters, and whipped up what I thought would be decent designs.

Artful Angie
01-23-2012, 07:19 PM
Thanks again. Though I was primarily working on the (equally horrible) Freedom Three thing... there was a time crunch (mandated by "you know who") on getting character designs out... so I jammed those out in an attempt to help Cesar with the work load. So I took the Kid Mummy and the Frankenborg characters, and whipped up what I thought would be decent designs.

JT, do you have any of the artwork you could post here?

Artful Angie
01-23-2012, 07:21 PM
A quick bit of research indicates that a person using the name Simon Kirby Jr, made the blogs,
http://rickolney.blogspot.com/
http://rickolneysucks.wordpress.com/
http://rickolney.posterous.com/
http://rickolney.tumblr.com/

So I think it's fair to assume they are behind the http://simonkirbyjr.blogspot.com/ as well. Or someone has taken their name which while possible seems unlikely. I wanted to add that upon reflection, knowing who is behind the blog doesn't matter and I didn't need to look it up but since I already wrote this post, no deleting it now.

Thanks for the answer, NotLarry. I was just trying to connect the dots to see the picture in my head. It was coming out as a Babel Fish until you posted. :-)

Artful Angie
01-23-2012, 07:22 PM
OH NO!!!! Rick cant figure out who Angie is because, it's one of his split personalities!!!!!

LOL! I was the one opposing personality in him. So I split!

JTPencils
01-24-2012, 01:58 AM
JT, do you have any of the artwork you could post here?

Just a couple Angie... the covers that were requested... all "tribute" covers... why I have no idea...
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp286/JTPencils/Artwork%20Album/homage1.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp286/JTPencils/Artwork%20Album/homage2.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp286/JTPencils/Artwork%20Album/homage3.jpg

As to the character designs of "Kid Mummy" and "Frankenborg".... I'd have to look for those... but you get the basic idea.

Tom Stillwell
01-24-2012, 03:52 AM
Man, that Globe. She's a fiery femme with a touch too much.

leftwingnutcase
01-24-2012, 04:51 AM
Man, that Globe. She's a fiery femme with a touch too much.

Uh, Tom...

Artful Angie
01-24-2012, 05:25 AM
Just a couple Angie... the covers that were requested... all "tribute" covers... why I have no idea...
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp286/JTPencils/Artwork%20Album/homage1.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp286/JTPencils/Artwork%20Album/homage2.jpg
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp286/JTPencils/Artwork%20Album/homage3.jpg

As to the character designs of "Kid Mummy" and "Frankenborg".... I'd have to look for those... but you get the basic idea.

Given the source of the material you had to work with I think you did a great job, JT.

SarahBeach
01-24-2012, 06:47 AM
Man, that Globe. She's a fiery femme with a touch too much.

LeftWing... that line is Rick's description of the female character.

But Tom, Globe is the big guy smacking Bin Laden. The "fiery femme" is Anchor.

Yeah, I can't make it work in my head either. He wanted to use the elements of the Marine Corps emblem... but it just doesn't work.

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-24-2012, 08:31 AM
Cesar Feliciano has a bunch of the art he did for Rick at his CAF gallery if you want to see some of the characters. Here are Frankenborg and Gargirl.

http://i.imgur.com/OLzLV.jpg

A few more, plus all his other amazing non related to Rick work can be found here. http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryDetail.asp?GCat=3326

Gail Simone
01-24-2012, 08:43 AM
Cesar is a really talented artist. I miss that guy!

Gail Simone
01-24-2012, 09:30 AM
I think we found out someone else wrote the copy for that, not Rick, didn't we?

JTPencils
01-24-2012, 10:24 AM
LeftWing... that line is Rick's description of the female character.

But Tom, Globe is the big guy smacking Bin Laden. The "fiery femme" is Anchor.

Yeah, I can't make it work in my head either. He wanted to use the elements of the Marine Corps emblem... but it just doesn't work.

True.. the female character was "Anchor"... which I always found a bit amusing... because there's nothing a female likes more then being compared to an incredibly heavy object that drags along the bottom of the sea and is capable, through sheer weight, of stopping a ship at sea! Good one there.

JTPencils
01-24-2012, 10:26 AM
Given the source of the material you had to work with I think you did a great job, JT.

Thanks Angie... though I'm quite certain there will now be outrage over showing "old designs" that "mean nothing anymore"... or some such rant.

Gail Simone
01-24-2012, 12:02 PM
Were these 'homage' covers Rick's idea? They are so well-done, but the idea is so played. :(

Gail Simone
01-24-2012, 12:10 PM
There could be a spin-off book! Anchor Team-Up!

Typically clumsy Olney language. I get the Marine tie-in, but that is one clunky name.

Gail Simone
01-24-2012, 12:12 PM
Who did the coloring, by the way? It's quite nice. Was that Scott Reed?

Tom Stillwell
01-24-2012, 12:55 PM
Nothing conveys fire based powers like anchors. Anchors and fire are like peas and carrots.

AIPman1
01-24-2012, 01:57 PM
forget Blazing Saddles, we gots Blazing anchors!

JTPencils
01-24-2012, 03:04 PM
Were these 'homage' covers Rick's idea? They are so well-done, but the idea is so played. :(

As far as I am aware Gail, those were his ideas. I do know at the time, I said "One might be OK... but why 3?...". Little did I know he was doing basically the same thing (homage covers) for his Monster Squad books as well. I can't remember which those were (the original covers)... but I do know they were completed, nice quality work (mostly Cesar IIRC)... and again, 3 of them. So the big "start" of TL books, would have been six successive books, all with homage covers. Yeah that wouldn't look played out for too long! (rolls eyes)

As to the colorist... I'd have to ask Jeff A. But I think it may have been Dash Martin... again, I don't recall.

AIPman1
01-24-2012, 03:23 PM
She's not just a fire-anchor, she's an anchor elemental, and then there's this Parliament of anchors on fire at the bottom of the sea and....

JTPencils
01-24-2012, 05:49 PM
Stop.... or he'll think those are GREAT ideas.

MacQuarrie
01-24-2012, 06:57 PM
The obvious: Olney thinks that stealing is a viable business model. It stands to reason that he would also think "homage" (read: swipe) covers constitute creativity.

coveredinbees
01-24-2012, 11:36 PM
You guys suck. Kid Mummy sounds adorable.

Artful Angie
01-25-2012, 04:29 AM
At the very least, Rick could turn Kid Mummy into a breakfast cereal. Kid Mummy Yummy Nummies!

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-25-2012, 07:33 AM
Oh that Rick, he just had to go make another blog. One day I should make a list of all the ones he has made over the years. I think it's over a dozen now.


You can now read my replies on the permanent Rick Olney's Shedding Light On Lies (http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/) blog to get the other side of the story.

I do apologize in advance for the time lapses on posts. You can respond with comments, but all are screened prior to the decision making process whether to post or not. Thank you.

Rick Olney
January 25, 2012

http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/

Matt Doc Martin
01-25-2012, 07:46 AM
Oh that Rick, he just had to go make another blog. One day I should make a list of all the ones he has made over the years. I think it's over a dozen now.



http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/


I wish they would charge him per blog.

This made me chuckle:


Yes, she is a writer. And, it is what she does for her living.

Presently.

He speaks truth! Before, she did other things.

i wonder what his point is? /sarcasm

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-25-2012, 08:49 AM
There's nothing worth my time replying to on Rick's new blog but one thing I found funny, well two.

He goes on about all the friends and supporters he has. His blog has been up for almost 4 days and until I posted a link here, he had a grand total of 1 visitor who clicked the one time and never again and didn't even leave a comment.

The other was this quote from Rick's unnamed friend


Anyone who rants always ends up looking like a jackass.

Truer words have never been written.

Oh and Rick hasn't learned how to take his name off the Feedjit feed so it gives links to his posts before they go up. Here's a link to a preview of his next entry.

http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/b/post-preview?token=gKGyFzUBAAA.iBMFDhwejSD21QfT8oWifw.r alalfhYdPdY1sY4iVHhcg&postId=6495543650452325212&type=POST

Gail Simone
01-25-2012, 09:28 AM
I love that he actually believes people know me because of him.

Rick, you are forgotten, pal. No one in comics remembers you except as a deadbeat and serial meltdown artist on every message board you disgrace with your presence.

Take a look on Google. It is nearly impossible to find anyone with a single positive thing to say about you, except for your own constant cries for validation. Why is that, Rick?
Why is it your former friends all loathe you? Why is it no pros who have had any experience with you at all want anything to do with you? Why do the comic book and convention
websites run stories about people you've cheated and insulted and threatened?

It's lovely that you want to find someone to blame your terrible reputation on...either it's Ian Shires, or Chuck Dixon, or Tony Isabella, or me, whoever you want to see as the boogey man
on that particular day. But why not, for once, take a look inside and realize that people dislike you because you lie to them, cheat them, abuse them, and threaten them? That
you never, ever keep your word to them?

Your enemy is YOU, Rick. The rest of the industry barely knows you ever existed.

Artful Angie
01-25-2012, 10:12 AM
I know it's redundant, much like Rick, but could someone screencap his latest drivel?

Not that it matters, because a cursory glance made it look to me like it was word-for-word the same rantings Rick posted before on his defunct blegh. He probably had the whole thing saved on his computer and cut and paste it back on.

Hey Rick, here's one to riddle you this: If you said all this stuff in your past meltdowns to the point where Google SHUT YOU DOWN, then what makes you think all you're going to be able to post all of it again in the weeks and months to come, and not get shut down AGAIN???

It must be Rick Olney Logic. You know, the same logic he uses that tells him if he's refused service in a store and told to leave he merely has to step outside and call the police and they will force that store to service him! Then he'll show us all, won't he?

Deegan
01-25-2012, 10:13 AM
Haha, oh man. For a blog that's all about shedding light on lies, it sure likes to reminisce on the past like his other 4 blogs. I was expecting more of an FAQ, where he explains why he does not owe thousands of dollars to people, but nah, it's just another wistful narrative.

Edit: I think I'm going to stop commenting on these sorts of posts Rick makes. I can understand if it's other people getting named and insulted, but to me it's a guy trying to remember the "good" times in his exiled life. There's nothing here really worth my time.

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-25-2012, 10:19 AM
His new blog reminds me that in 2010, Rick made a blog called "The Lies and Truth About Rick Olney" which was going to be where Rick exposed us all for the filthy liars we are. It lasted something like 3 days before it got deleted.

I went to the link and it's been so long since it was removed, the url is up for grabs again. If you want it: http://liesandtruthaboutrickolney.blogspot.com/

AIPman1
01-25-2012, 10:54 AM
Oh that Rick, he just had to go make another blog. One day I should make a list of all the ones he has made over the years. I think it's over a dozen now.



http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/

Guess he finally got tired of no one knowing where he was posting his bullshit.

Gail Simone
01-25-2012, 11:40 AM
Heh. I knew he'd flip out over that last post. But boy, he REALLY flipped out. :)






I Love That He Actually Believes People Know Me Because Of Him.
"Gail Simone" aka Tammy James

I love that he actually believes people know me because of him.

Don't flatter yourself, Gail. Although it is a fact that your very first convention or comic book show
appearance was back on May 10, 2003 at the Mighty Minicon, held in Herkimer, New York by ORCA and co-hosted by me. You have allowed your views of it all to be corrupted by the fact that you couldn't get that extra $100 dollars out of me for your expenses you wouldn't substantiate. I asked you for the receipts to account for the money spent on meals that day of your flight home for you and your husband, Scott.

You also tried (later during the online haggling) to imply that I had offered to pay for your husband's flight. Thinking back, I do not recall that. I certainly know that Dennis Kininger would never have agreed with me had I suggested it to him, and Dennis was President of Organized Readers of Comics Associated at that time. So again, you were paid attention, just as Joe Quesada paid attention to you and you tried to spin it into money.

And -- YOUR largest conversational thread on your forum has MY NAME on it. So go try and bullshit someone else. You feed off of me. In fact, by defined legal terms you have invaded my privacy. You have been at the helm of threats against the safety of my family and self. You have smeared my good name. And you justify your actions by stating that BECAUSE people do not respond publicly to defend me I am then all that you imply. WRONG!

Rick, you are forgotten, pal. No one in comics remembers you except as a deadbeat and serial meltdown artist on every message board you disgrace with your presence.

Deadbeat? Serial meltdown artist? Disgrace? WRONG!

What you have caused and led, Gail, is an outright attack and smear campaign against me for several years now. Your blatant claims about me being forgotten don't mean a tinker's damn to me. I still have sincere friends in the area of comic books on the professional level and with a list of retail owners. I'm also still well thought of in several schools and public libraries (where ORCA is concerned). I know, because I have checked.

Take a look on Google. It is nearly impossible to find anyone with a single positive thing to say about you, except for your own constant cries for validation. Why is that, Rick?

Gail, you are infatuated with yourself. I'm not trying to validate myself. I'm marking my spot on the Internet once and for all. I never paid much attention to that before. With all the various interactions and the positive that I have accomplished over the years it was never about me. It was WHO and WHAT I was trying to point and direct people towards.

Google is what it is. You can and have manipulated Google via your personal attacks against me. I have never sought anyone to speak out on my behalf, although the misery and trouble your lies have caused me have not gone unnoticed by people having nothing to do with comic books. I welcome that attention, Gail. I'm working in my own way to make sure that other "Gail Simone's" don't do to others what you have done to me. You have no idea. Whether I deserve your attention or not is for someone else to decide. I'm merely sharing another side -- MY SIDE -- of what I have done regarding my love of sequential art ant and the hobby & business of comic books. You, on the other hand, ARE the bully and 'gang' leader that I have tagged you. You think you're exposing me? No, you're exposing yourself. To your readers, your employer, your fans, and to the professional community.

Why is it your former friends all loathe you?

And which former friends would that be, Gail? Name them. The people that you seem to think were my friends would -- by common sense alone -- be nothing more than acquaintances and NOT friends; people perhaps looking to me or at me as someone that might help them along their way.


Why is it no pros who have had any experience with you at all want anything to do with you?

Really? I sit here laughing at your absurdity. I had to cancel the Adirondack ComicFest simply because your message board gang targeted a number of said "pros" (who had little to no knowledge of the reputation you have placed upon me) and coerced and (in some cases) intimidated those individuals to cancel their appearance agreements. Certainly, after ANYONE had a chance to see the hatchet job done on me they'd be really foolish to go against you and your gang, wouldn't they?

Have you ever bothered to contact anyone yourself? Say... like the hotel in Old Forge? Or did you merely orchestrate the harassment of that business through your gang?

Why do the comic book and convention websites run stories about people you've cheated and insulted and threatened?

To answer that question I'd have to simply ask you why? While it is true that I had a miscommunication/misunderstanding with www.comicbookconventions.com -- I can't recall any other comic book message board websites having a problem with me other than www.comicon.com and that was all resolved with my requesting strongly that they REMOVE my name from their website. Which they did do. You pull up the old comicon gutters forum crap, but its clear that you don't know what you're talking about. You never posted there as "Gail Simone" anyway. Did you post there at all? If you had, you would've known the shenanigans that went on there. It was more along the lines of where you'd feel comfortable though.


It's lovely that you want to find someone to blame your terrible reputation on...either it's Ian Shires, or Chuck Dixon, or Tony Isabella, or me, whoever you want to see as the boogey man on that particular day.

No, that isn't it. I know that I've made mistakes and I've accepted responsibility for some and believe it or not, but I'm slowly working on some of the others left. But you're not about any of that. You simply want more crap to mull over and chew and spit out to feed your gang there on the Brian Bendis website.

Ian Shires? Please. Shires talks a lot of crap that isn't worth the time to deal with. He fed on my kindness of wanting to have the Small Press Association there at the 2003 Mighty Minicon with dragging his wife's parents, his baby daughter, and his wife from Ohio to Herkimer for a free table that went to him needing to be two (or was it three) FREE tables. I was one of his website co-administrators before that time. He got compensated for his hotel, which by the way was NOT the Herkimer Hotel where you and the other guest stayed -- He showed up and announced that he had to stay in Utica at the Radisson Hotel, charging meals to me as I had offered breakfast at the convention site and Ian Shires took that to mean that their breakfast at the Raddisson was on me. They also got gas costs from Ohio and back, along with another 20 miles or so for the added trips from Utica to Herkimer. So if ANYONE GOT ABUSED OR CHEATED it was me that day. I still have those receipts. Kathy Shires charged the costs to their credit card and they were reimbursed after the fact, just as you were.


I can't talk about Tony Isabella beyond what I have said. Like you, I had always thought very highly and well about Tony Isabella. I touted his columns over the year verbally at ORCA's meetings and in print. I tried to participate in his online community and simple didn't fit in. I'm fine with that, but Isabella has crossed lines and lied about me just as you have. So what comes of that shall remain to be seen.

You mentioning Chuck Dixon is a hoot! It was because of Dixon and your attempt to suck-up to him (as you admire the man for his finesse in being so beloved) that you began this all against me in the first place.

Did I know that you'd stoop so low when I challenged you? No, I did not. I also didn't know that I would have my home and personal property vandalized or that I'd be diagnosed with 4th stage colon cancer. Has that mattered to you? No, it has not. Nor would I expect it -- after getting to know you as intimately as I do. You have a personality that HAS to always have someone to use as your kicking post. I merely replaced the last person you used to abuse. What was his name... J-Bolt?

You simply let it go on your message board and hop back-n-forth over it. Beyond the occasional mention of not talking about that part of my real life -- you spew poison. You're a very bitter and somewhat E-V-I--L person to a number of people that I know on Facebook. And, contrary to what you want people to believe about me -- I do know pros that have told me that they have NO INTEREST in ever getting to know or work with you. And you -- YOU actually PRIDE YOURSELF on that part of your personality.

But why not, for once, take a look inside and realize that people dislike you because you lie to them, cheat them, abuse them, and threaten them? That you never, ever keep your word to them?

Sorry, but that it a lot like the kettle calling the plot black. YOU and your gang have been the ones keeping this all going. I was off the internet for nearly a year or longer and rightfully so, my cancer kept me occupied. Lie to them? Cheat them? Abuse them? Threaten them? WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING OF!? Name them!
Gail, when all of my contractual obligations from 2003 (when I first met you) are tallied and placed beside the failed individuals that worked with me regarding my self publishing with TightLip Entertainment -- I can easily PROVE YOU WRONG on your assertions.

If anyone cheated them it was you and your group that worked so diligently to smear me and distance any hope for a solution.

I have always maintained that again -- NOBODY IS GETTING PAID FOR WORK NEVER FINISHED OR COMPLETED. NOBODY IS GETTING PAID AFTER BREAKING THEIR CONTRACT OR CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT with me. NOBODY. NOBODY SINGULARLY, as the story teams on my TALES OF THE SPOOKY book guided by Dave Lanphere at that time GET PAID AS A TEAM. I am NOT paying a Writer when the Artist refuses to honor their contract. That is what got Dave Lanphere released from his position as creative director.

Define WHO I have abused, if you can. I doubt that you actually know the definition of the word. Feh.

Your enemy is YOU, Rick. The rest of the industry barely knows you ever existed.

No, Gail. You've made it clear that YOUR ENEMY is me.
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Gail Simone
01-25-2012, 11:48 AM
He's such a fucking idiot. Holy crap, I can't remember speaking with anyone so dumb in my entire life. Yikes.

I've been over all this a million times, but what the hell.

First, Rick, the Mighty Mini Con was NOT the first con I ever attended. I attended a lovely show in Portland, and was a
guest of Marvel at the San Diego Comic Con before I ever attended your event. If you'd like to say yours was the
first incompetent, horribly run convention I attended, yes, that's a truthful statement. One paragraph in and you're not
doing too well on facts.

Second, I never, EVER asked you to pay for my husband's airfare, everyone knows it. Never. I have proved it in email time
and again, you brought up that idea, that you would pay his airfare, as a typical Olney stalling tactic. I never asked for it,
not once. Prove it. Show a post or an email. I have posted your emails on this several times, and you have always went
crying back home, unwilling to face your own words in black and white.

Second, again, the hundred dollars was YOUR idea, when you didn't pay the full amount owed. Another typical Olney stalling
tactic, you've used it on many pros...you delay and delay payment, then, to FURTHER keep people waiting, you say you
will pay them a 'bonus' for the trouble. Then of course, you never pay that either. YOU came up with the $100, you delayed
paying it for two years with a series of bullshit "It's in the mail!" and "I have to get it from a special account!" excuses. Same
exact trick you pulled on a dozen other pros you've cheated. I've posted those emails many times as well. We've all
seen them, everyone who has had any dealings with you whatsoever knows exactly what I'm talking about.

Paid Greg Horn or Mike Kaluta yet, Rick? You've been a deadbeat to them for all these years, and they signed no NDA and
never talked about the MMC in public. Why haven't you paid THEM yet, deadbeat?

I have no desire to 'suck up' to Chuck Dixon. I barely know Chuck and haven't talked to him in a couple years. Keep trying,
deadbeat. The truth is, you cheated Chuck, like you cheated every other pro who worked on the Tightlip books. And they
all hate your guts.

Nice 'good reputation' you have there, Ricky.

:)

Gail Simone
01-25-2012, 11:51 AM
Yawn. Too bored to expose the rest, everyone knows the truth already.

bert
01-25-2012, 11:52 AM
ok.. I'm absolutely sure this was a typo (it's too clever, considering the source, to not be).

but i kinda like this turn of phrase if trying to insult a Writer:


Sorry, but that it a lot like the kettle calling the plot black.

Shurato2099
01-25-2012, 11:53 AM
"I'm marking my spot on the internet once and for all." ... Or at least until the next good rain washes it off.

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-25-2012, 11:56 AM
Nothing Rick's written is new or worth replying to in my opinion. He's stuck in a loop and repeating himself again with all the stuff he's written on his now deleted blogs. I'll pay attention when he gets back to 2007 and says he'll sue me for breaking his NDA again. I did notice this from his latest meltdown.


I also didn't know that I would have my home and personal property vandalized

So he's now claiming his home was vandalized. I'm sure he filled out a police report on that he can share?

Gail Simone
01-25-2012, 11:56 AM
Of course, he'll just have a meltdown and then delete the site the next day, as he has done a dozen times in the past.

You're getting BORING, Rick.

AIPman1
01-25-2012, 12:03 PM
I'm also still well thought of in several schools and public libraries (where ORCA is concerned). I know, because I have checked.

can you see him walking into schools, going up to people going "you remember me fondly, dont you??"

Artful Angie
01-25-2012, 12:11 PM
Just a few tidbits for me from his latest "Blogasm".


Actually, for the record, there were TWO Mighty Minicon events prior to the 2003 Mighty Minicon. ORCA also back in 1996, held a successful show called ORCON '96 that featured a number of interesting comics guests of that time.

Orcon was not a success for anyone but Rick. But Rick calls any con a success where he ends up making money off of other people or scoring some collectibles for himself with a fake auction scam. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten around to saying Adirondack Comic Con did take place and it was a great success! He'd love to post the pictures, but will do that at a later date. Just trust him on that!


Oh, now I recall. Yes, I was in contact with Mr. Doane after the 2003 MMC and had explained to him that had I known he was there intending to write about the show I would have let both him and his family in for free.

I love how Rick thinks my... I mean... Mr. Doane (who I'm sure is a wonderful person), Mr. Doane's only problem with Rick's Shitty Con is that he had to pay to get in and Rick didn't introduce himself to me. Him. I meant him.


I must tell you though -- I view the words about event hosting and co-hosting from a point of, If YOU have never tried to hold your own event, in this case a pop culture show, then you're NO AUTHORITY on what is done right or wrong.

And apparently, based on your failed Adirondathon, Spookython, Dumbassathon, and all your other failures, Rick: Neither are you!


9 Years later!? That boggles my mind. Would someone want to be apart of a group so badly that was getting attention by such means was worth it? Sure, it was a negative group and still is. I can state this because I have been its only target for these many years. Me, a 57 year old guy that has had to battle 4th stage colon cancer since 2009. <<sigh>>

...



Having Tony Isabella at our 2003 MMC was a big deal for us all involved.

GAIL, could you answer a question about the ad Rick has posted about the minicon? Did Peter David actually attend? Greg Horn? Mike Kaluta? Dick Ayers? Or were these people on Rick's wish list that he never actually confirmed they were attending, like he usually does. At least he's smart enough to not do that with really big stars like his BFF Stan Lee.


Hmm... not sure I can believe that paragraph. Doane had to have done his homework on the event regarding guests and so forth; that it was connected to ORCA and being held in central New York was obviously something that didn't go unnoticed in the ads and banners on the internet.

Really? Because when I looked at the ad... And I'm sure when this person Mr. Doane whom I have never met looked at it... It's really not jumping out that much that it was by ORCA. Just a little blurb in the bottom corner.


Since we are both in upstate New York, he later tried to get me to endorse his efforts, the most recent time trying (to the point of aggravation, after I had said no multiple times) to pay me to line up guests for his convention, even going so far as to admit that he couldn’t do it himself because of his reputation, but realizing neither the irony involved there, or the fact that, whatever reputation I have, I didn’t want it soiled by associating with him and his notorious shenanigans.

This never happened as Doane describes. I recall Doane as being known somewhat for his earlier attempts at bringing readers online to his Alan David Doane's Comic Book Galaxy website. It seems more likely that he learned of the 2003 Mighty Minicon by the fact that ORCA (via me) did reach out to columnists (online and in hard print) to consider attending in helping us further our message and the show. Doane appears to be using creative revisionist history to his disgruntled blog post. You can also see (in the link provided ) that a nuisance and harassing rogue blog called Rick Olney SUCKS! is a childish smear, utilizing a stolen photo of me from my daughter's personal Facebook photo album, actually approves of his (Doane's) approach to joining the fray against me. I may have offered him a spot on the convention building team that we were trying to put together. Obviously, if that was so, he wasn't interested. Again, that would have been 2003 later or early 2004. What would make Doane be so personally aggrieved some 5 or 6 years later?

I have to say Rick is right about one thing. He may have offered money to m... I mean Mr. Doane... to be on his little merry band of misfits to work for him. But since Rick has never paid anyone who worked for him, I'm sure in his mind he's right about this. After all, if you never intend to pay then you really don't think of it as offering to pay anyone, right?


So you're aware -- The people who have forever tried to hold a comic book event in Syracuse inevitably ALWAYS falls into this same ditch of pitting one young show against another. This places David Alan Doane, whoever he is, wherever he is, under whatever rock he's hiding under... in my idiot file.

If I knew who this Mr. Doane was, Rick, I'm sure he have something to say along the lines of "Rick, the rock I'm under is paid for and owned by me. Not rented because you can't get a homeowner loan the minute they look at your credit score based on all those unpaid bills.... And it's Alan David Doane. Not David Alan Doane. Next time you want to try to trash talk someone, getting their name right makes you sound like less of a dumbass when you do it."

But I'm only guessing what this Mr. Doane might say.


The Albany Comic Con is a great event! I've attended such shows in the Albany, New York area before.

Until they found out who he was.


Why one show has to be placed in this imaginary place of competing against another is childish and ridiculous. 'Course, in this instance it is meant to imply that one event is better than another. Goading went out with the playground days, Doane. Grow the fuck up.

Wow, there's mature, intelligent conversation. Way to try and win a debate there, Ricky!

In point of fact, here's what "Mr. Doane" had to say that Rick was commenting on:

For more information, read Tony Isabella’s recent post about Rick Olney. And remember, if you’re interested in attending a comic book show in the Adirondack region, The Albany Comic Con is a great show run by ethical people, a terrific alternative to Rick Olney’s “Adirondack ComicFest,” which, even if it comes off, is already tainted by accusations of questionable charity associations, and by Rick Olney’s well-deserved reputation as a shady character.

How is that statement viewed as a "competition" between cons in this area? For starters, most of the same attendees and guests from one con show up at the others. Do you know how many people I've seen at more than one con over the years, Rick?
All that person who is definitely not known to me said was "If you don't want to be screwed over by a con artist, Go to Albany Comic Con instead". Oh, and "Rick Olney is a con artist". I can't see anything in there that is wrong. Can you?

Rick, let me explain something to you.

The one thing you briefly touched on when you were with ORCA is that comic fans like to come together and share their love of the industry together. When you made ORCA, it allowed those people to come together. Of course, you only did it for your own ego back then, and when it stopped feeding that ego you did your best to destroy it rather than have those people come together and enjoy themselves with you.

You used the same concept when you did the ShittyCon. It was to have comic fans come together and feed your ego. That's why it sucked for those people and why you have failed again and again to get another con going.

And when you lash out like a child at those people who call you out on being a child- let me rephrase that- on those people who come together and call you out on being a child, all you do is strengthen that bond they have. The only person you have a bond with is yourself, Rick. Like Gail said earlier today, is there anyone out there coming together to speak out for you? Are there any "We Love Rick Olney" websites that were started by anyone other than you?

You just don't get it, Rick. And you never will. It's why you share the story after the same story for the past 15 years. You want someone to bond with. And until you put your ego away, that'll never happen. And it's not their fault.

All those people who come together to speak out against you here don't seem to have a problem working and playing well with others. Only you.

And here's another way to show how this thread helps people come together.

Hey LeftWingNutCase! Is Bill Turner still heading up the dealer tables for the Ithaca comic show next week? I was in Syracuse today and came together with Geoff Watkins over at Cloud City Comics. I told him about the show, and he is thinking of coming out for the day and maybe bringing some stuff to sell if there's a dealer table open.

So Geoff gets to make some money, some comics fans get to buy some trades and comics at a discount, and everyone at the show is a little happier.

See how it all just comes together, Rick??

AIPman1
01-25-2012, 12:14 PM
Ian Shires? Please. Shires talks a lot of crap that isn't worth the time to deal with. He fed on my kindness of wanting to have the Small Press Association there at the 2003 Mighty Minicon with dragging his wife's parents, his baby daughter, and his wife from Ohio to Herkimer for a free table that went to him needing to be two (or was it three) FREE tables. I was one of his website co-administrators before that time. He got compensated for his hotel, which by the way was NOT the Herkimer Hotel where you and the other guest stayed -- He showed up and announced that he had to stay in Utica at the Radisson Hotel, charging meals to me as I had offered breakfast at the convention site and Ian Shires took that to mean that their breakfast at the Raddisson was on me. They also got gas costs from Ohio and back, along with another 20 miles or so for the added trips from Utica to Herkimer. So if ANYONE GOT ABUSED OR CHEATED it was me that day. I still have those receipts. Kathy Shires charged the costs to their credit card and they were reimbursed after the fact, just as you were.
just for the record and truth's sake, the ONLY reimbursement I received AT ALL was a straight $100 given to me at the show AS WE WERE LEAVING, that I had to literally search the whole convention space to FIND Olney at that point to get. We have him the actual total and receipts, with the promise we'd get the rest, but of course, that never happened. $100 did not even cover all of the Gas, I dont think...we did go to a different hotel, but it was with the agreement that I would not get any more reimbursement for that than anyone that stayed at the motel...we agreed to cover the rest of that. And Olney's $100 slap in the face as I was leaving, lead to negotiations I still have copies of. He knows full well how hard he screwed me over from there.

Gail Simone
01-25-2012, 12:27 PM
Ian, trust me, being on Rick's enemies list almost automatically means everyone knows you got screwed.

And Artful, to answer your question"

"GAIL, could you answer a question about the ad Rick has posted about the minicon? Did Peter David actually attend? Greg Horn? Mike Kaluta? Dick Ayers? Or were these people on Rick's wish list that he never actually confirmed they were attending, like he usually does. At least he's smart enough to not do that with really big stars like his BFF Stan Lee."

Peter David did not attend, absolutely not. Greg Horn did attend...he was in even worse shape by the end of the con than we were. Greg had some sort of problem with food, don't know if it's allergies or blood sugar or what, but he had to eat and of course, Rick kept us at the con for hours after it closed, when everyone else was working cleaning up, just talking about himself. TWO SOLID HOURS. And then he was supposed to take us all out to dinner, which none of us were looking forward to, we were all very tired of Rick by that point. But they hadn't booked rooms for us, great planning there, guys. And they couldn't find a room, supposedly because the President was in town. So they finally found a couple rooms and Rick's credit card was declined. At that point, Greg was doing really badly, he needed to eat immediately, but they just kept banging into each other like Greg didn't exist. Frustrating.

So hubby and I went to the only restaurant open, a filthy, disgusting Denny's. We couldn't wait to leave. More great MMC planning.

Mike Kaluta was also there. I know he didn't get paid, I have talked to him about it.

Neither of these guys got paid, Rick's been saying for years he was going to pay them. Then he conveniently 'lost their contact info,' which is
such horseshit, and of course, he's pulled that trick on god knows how many other people, INCLUDING ME. He claimed he lost my contact
info at the same time he was posting on my message boards, where I posted every day.

I think he actually thinks people are dumb enough to believe all his endless excuses.

Artful Angie
01-25-2012, 12:34 PM
can you see him walking into schools, going up to people going "you remember me fondly, dont you??"

**SNICKER**

I'm sorry. I just had this image or Rick in a school and the word "fondle" popped in my head. From there, it pretty much went off the rails...

Artful Angie
01-25-2012, 12:47 PM
Not sure if these photos were ever shared, but while I am trying to show that my personal efforts were to grow (what I have called) my Mighty Minicon (despite it being co-hosted for ORCA) that existed from Spring 2001 until Spring 2005.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how the venue changed, or it shouldn't anyway, by those that actually attended or guested at the 2001 to 2003 events.


It also doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the total of fifteen people in the photos, not counting the people working the snack bar. And that's including the dealers sitting at the tables and even Rick himself in his little Hawaiian shirt. What a successful con there, Rick! Maybe someday you can come to a real con, maybe in disguise so they'll let you, and you can see how they tend to be more successful when the attendees outnumber the dealers and guests.

Artful Angie
01-25-2012, 12:50 PM
Monday, January 23, 2012

Advice to Rick Olney

From a friend:

Dear Rick~

I heard about the drama that you are going through. I hope that you are doing ok. As someone who just went through a big internet drama myself, here is my advice....
Save copies of EVERYTHING...
Contact an attorney...
Follow his/her advice....
Don't fuel the fire...
Breathe deeply...
and it will be over soon....
Most people that have time to post crazy stuff are either A. Crazy B. Such losers that all they do is spend their day on the internet or C. Both A and B

It's hard not to worry about your reputation, but in the end, the best people always shine through. Anyone who rants always ends up looking like a jackass.

Best of luck...

You know, after sabre rattling as I was getting through the worst days of my cancer discovery and treatment -- this friend -- reached me. All done playing the game the same way.

Your friend hit it right on the money, Rick.

Gail Simone
01-25-2012, 12:50 PM
Yeah, he's sworn six hundred paid attendees were at the con in 2003. Which is complete horseshit. There was NO ONE there the whole second half of the day.

AIPman1
01-25-2012, 12:54 PM
When guests of the show decide that going outside to throw a Frisbee (or was it a football) around, is better use of their time than sitting at their tables...you know the show has a problem....

Gail Simone
01-25-2012, 01:00 PM
Yeah, most everyone went out and played football. I stayed at my table for the few people who actually showed up. To this DAY, it's still the worst run con I've attended by miles, nothing else is even in the ballpark.
There was not a single aspect that was run well, not one.

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-25-2012, 01:05 PM
Putting this so we can watch how long before Rick breaks his promise.


Rick Olney (http://www.blogger.com/profile/12469450382160069660) Jan 25, 2012 01:35 PM By the way -- I WILL NOT reply/respond to anyone in print on this blog EXCEPT "Gail Simone" aka Tammy James.
http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/2012/01/i-love-that-he-actually-believes-people.html#comment-form

JTPencils
01-25-2012, 01:16 PM
I'm curious... do you think on other boards (where he no doubt get's banned from eventually)... that he claims that he and Gail have been pen pals for years now? It would be as BIG a line of BS as most anything else he claims.

Artful Angie
01-25-2012, 01:31 PM
Putting this so we can watch how long before Rick breaks his promise.


http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/2012/01/i-love-that-he-actually-believes-people.html#comment-form


By the way -- I WILL NOT reply/respond to anyone in print on this blog EXCEPT "Gail Simone" aka Tammy James.


In other words, the FACT that EVERYONE has called him out on his BULLSHIT, he's going to try and ignore that.

He's now going to act like that girl in the cell phone commercial. "I'm writing this to tell you that I'm giving you the silent treatment, Gail. Then I'm going to write another telling you I'm giving you the silent treatment. Then I'm going to write on my other blog telling you to come to this blog, where I can tell you I'm giving you the silent treatment. Did you hear me, Gail?"

Gail Simone
01-25-2012, 01:45 PM
Yeah.

The truth is, I really am bored of him. He's just not smart or interesting enough to follow for the sake of what he's saying, and even his recent meltdowns were just the same old sadass weak whimpering spin he's been posting for
ages.

I'll give it some thought, but it's pretty clear that at this point, only an idiot would ever take a risk on Rick, given his long-standing rep as a deadbeat.

Outsider
01-25-2012, 03:31 PM
I know it's redundant, much like Rick, but could someone screencap his latest drivel?

I have them capped. I can post upon request; I just didn't want to immediately start flooding the board if there wasn't any interest.

OMAR
01-25-2012, 03:46 PM
"He may have offered money to m... I mean Mr. Doane..."

I am completely stunned right now. I've been a fan of the site for years, particularly some of the interviews. That Alan Moore interview was one of the best, maybe the best I'd seen at that point at least. I've enjoyed ADD's cogent and often very humorous posts on various message boards since... WEF days? How did it come to this?

Artful Angie
01-25-2012, 03:48 PM
Thanks, Outsider! :-)

And can I ask for a show of hands? How many people almost fell out of their chairs reading how offended Rick was that *GASP!* Someone swiped a picture of him from a website and dared to post it on some website without his permission?

Oh, the humanity!!

SarahBeach
01-25-2012, 04:17 PM
Not banned on other comic book message boards? Uh.... he was banned from Dixonverse and banned from CBR (or at least the YABS forum).

He's really reverting to form folks, throwing up all this ancient trash. Remember, this is one of his diversionary tactics.

He still owes MANY people a LOT of money from the 2005-2006 period for work that has nothing to do with TOTS -- Like Doc Absurd for columns about toys, Scott Reed for website design, Rhone for her months as his PR representative.

And of course, so far as we know, he STILL has the Indiana Jones maps in his possession and has offered them for sale - unlicensed, and no longer with even the pretense of selling them to raise money for any charity, nevermind one serving wounded veterans.

As for someone using pictures of Rick -- hello, he has to VERIFY that HE is the copyright owner of them (ie, took the picture himself) or that the copyright owner actually cares about the infringement. That's the basic matter. Yes, there is the side bit (at least out here in California) of having some control over the use of one's own image if one has a public business. In my case, I am a published writer, and I have made appearances as a speaker, so I could make a case against his use of my image. But the most recent infringements were reported simply on the grounds of copyright infringement.

He's really in whiner mode. His mangled trips down memory lane are redundant. We've heard them all before. Like I said, let us not allow him to distract us from the businesses at hand.

Outsider
01-25-2012, 04:26 PM
http://imgur.com/a/8MJXC

All in one album.

HamsterRage
01-25-2012, 04:44 PM
Just a note to everyone... Notice that he's not mentioning Lucasfilm, Matt Busch and the maps Rick stole?

This whole thing is because he wants to avoid discussing that. It might be a good idea to focus on this issue and let Olney start yakking away and sink himself further.

leftwingnutcase
01-25-2012, 05:02 PM
Hey LeftWingNutCase! Is Bill Turner still heading up the dealer tables for the Ithaca comic show next week? I was in Syracuse today and came together with Geoff Watkins over at Cloud City Comics. I told him about the show, and he is thinking of coming out for the day and maybe bringing some stuff to sell if there's a dealer table open.

So Geoff gets to make some money, some comics fans get to buy some trades and comics at a discount, and everyone at the show is a little happier.

See how it all just comes together, Rick??

Angie, we have so much talent lined up that space is at a premium! Geoff should have Bill's info, otherwise I can give it to you!

HamsterRage
01-25-2012, 06:23 PM
Do you think Rick realizes that every time he sends an inbound link to a site he doesn't like that he actually helps their SEO?

Too bad he doesn't know how the internet works... kinda amazing. I wonder how many people he got away with fucking over before the internet?

Also while he's playing the golden oldies over and over... I wonder when he'll get to the cease and decist Lucasfilm sent him?

JTPencils
01-25-2012, 06:35 PM
... I wonder when he'll get to the cease and decist Lucasfilm sent him?

According to him, he's got THE most incompetent postal service in the nation... seems they constantly lose mail that he sends out... nor do they deliver anything to him in a "timely manner".... so... Never?

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-25-2012, 07:24 PM
I don't normally reply to non scam oriented things Rick says but I laughed so hard at how sinister he tried to make this seem that I just couldn't resist.


Simone, by the way does not use her real name. She's known in the real world as Tammy James. I tell you this because it illustrates that she's willing to hide behind a phony name to her fans. What does she have to hide? What else is she hiding regarding the Internet...
http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/2012/01/orcas-fresh-part-one.html

Yes, Gail... what do you have to hide? Is it the same thing that Rick's heroes Stanley Lieber and Jacob Kurtzberg must have been hiding when they started going by those phony names Stan Lee and Jack Kirby?

Gail Simone
01-25-2012, 07:34 PM
What's weird is that he every thinks that worked. Haven't cared, have reposted it a bunch of times myself.

I don't go by Tammy, no one knows me as Tammy, anyway, he still hasn't got his facts right. Dumbo scores again.


What's nice is, that on the day he has his latest golden oldie meltdown, so many amazing things have happened, good things, positive things.

I got an offer to work with a legendary artist who specifically requested me, I get to work on another project in film, I have been invited to tons
of REAL conventions, run by honest, intelligent people who know what they're doing. Nice.

Nicer still, a wonderful artist, Al Davison, who was born with Spina Bifida and is currently in a wheelchair (but is also a fifth degree gung fu and first degree karate black belt),
is working on a book, I posted about it, and it raised $1200 for his indiegogo page in a single day. So, a BRILLIANT artist will likely be doing a WONDERFUL book,
and guess what? None of the characters are Mary Sues or thinly-veiled rip-offs of much better Marvel characters.

A very good day.

Glenn Barbis Jr.
01-25-2012, 07:35 PM
I don't normally reply to non scam oriented things Rick says but I laughed so hard at how sinister he tried to make this seem that I just couldn't resist.


http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/2012/01/orcas-fresh-part-one.html

Yes, Gail... what do you have to hide? Is it the same thing that Rick's heroes Stanley Lieber and Jacob Kurtzberg must have been hiding when they started going by those phony names Stan Lee and Jack Kirby?

She's Jewish and she wants to someday write The Great American Novel???

bert
01-25-2012, 07:42 PM
I don't normally reply to non scam oriented things Rick says but I laughed so hard at how sinister he tried to make this seem that I just couldn't resist.


http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/2012/01/orcas-fresh-part-one.html

Yes, Gail... what do you have to hide? Is it the same thing that Rick's heroes Stanley Lieber and Jacob Kurtzberg must have been hiding when they started going by those phony names Stan Lee and Jack Kirby?

my favorite is how he forgets to put it in quotes every time.

yes, sometimes she's "Gail Simone" and sometimes she's just Gail.

consistency within paragraphs. . yeah, something not needed by a writer :p

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-25-2012, 07:42 PM
Nicer still, a wonderful artist, Al Davison, who was born with Spina Bifida and is currently in a wheelchair (but is also a fifth degree gung fu and first degree karate black belt),
is working on a book, I posted about it, and it raised $1200 for his indiegogo page in a single day.
I recall you writing about him so it's nice to see he raised that much money so fast. My brother was born with spina bifida as well and so that caught my eye. It's amazing to read all of the accomplishments Al Davison has made.

Gail Simone
01-25-2012, 08:03 PM
Well, you know how Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were always out to fool the readers with their pen names. VICTORY!

Also, Mark Twain. What a LIAR that Mark Twain was!

Artful Angie
01-25-2012, 08:12 PM
Angie, we have so much talent lined up that space is at a premium! Geoff should have Bill's info, otherwise I can give it to you!

I figured as much. He has a gig that night, and there is some Magic: The Gathering release at the store that day, but he thought it might be worth it to try and contact Bill to see what space was available. He has a ton of graphic novels to take and sell at quite the deal!

(You see, Ricky, Geoff's business has soared so well, he actually bought out two other stores recently!)

Geoff was also showing me a great collection he just bought of classic Fawcett Comics in wonderful condition. And His 4th Anniversary is coming up on April 1st, so Cloud City Comics is going to be the place to be that day! Oh, but wait. Ricky can't go to the comic stores in Syracuse.

That's okay, Rick. It's right next to the food court, and there a big showroom window that you can stand on the outside of and look in. It seems you've been doing that your whole life anyway...

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-25-2012, 08:49 PM
It's a shame Rick has promised to only reply to Gail because I have a question for him. I was looking for the post where he threatened to come after me for breaking an NDA I never signed. Found it

I know who you are. Furthermore, I know that you know that I'm coming for you legally for breaking your non-disclosure agreement."


On the same page, I found this discussion.



Me:
I've found 5 different ages/birthdays he has used on various message boards and MySpace accounts. The funniest is a message board where he tried to say he was born January 1, 1970.

From what I've gathered, I think the correct date is June 27, 1954. I know some people know for certain so they can correct me as needed.

Tom: He was born on 09/01/54.

Sarah: REALLY??? 'Cause the June 27 one is the one he makes the most noise about. And has on his main mySpace.

Tom: That's his legally listed DOB.


Now I don't recall if there was a follow up why the birthdates don't match up but if using a "phony" name online is so sinister, what dastardly plan is behind changed birthdays?

AlexNess
01-25-2012, 10:20 PM
Maybe he is his own evil twin.

Gail Simone
01-26-2012, 01:13 AM
Wouldn't it be a good twin, in his case?

AlexNess
01-26-2012, 01:20 AM
Well we are talking about the Mirror universe, so Olney's "Evil" twin would be Good. Or something.

AIPman1
01-26-2012, 03:14 AM
Telling ya, multiple personalities....maybe each one has developed it's own birthday...let's ask Angie since he's ONE of those personalities...lol

AIPman1
01-26-2012, 03:26 AM
Dam, I tried to skim through the posts on Olney's Lies blog (you gotta love a blog title that people will abbreviate for truth) - that stuff is an assault on the eyes...impossible to read and follow. All I could do was skim. what a waste of time.

Glenn Barbis Jr.
01-26-2012, 05:15 AM
On the old Comicon.com threads, his birthday was June 27. And in the Jun. 27, 2000 thread, he states he is 47.

http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=452219&page=1

*This isn't the infamous thread when nobody wished him a Happy Birthday.THIS IS. (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=280510&page=1) *

KJ!
01-26-2012, 05:31 AM
On the old Comicon.com threads, his birthday was June 27. And in the Jun. 27, 2000 thread, he states he is 47.

http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=452219&page=1

*This isn't the infamous thread when nobody wished him a Happy Birthday.THIS IS. (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=280510&page=1) *


It's late here, and my math may be a bit squiggly, but in the thread from 2000 he states he is 47.

BUT in his blogpost from 2 days he states ''9 Years later!? That boggles my mind. Would someone want to be apart of a group so badly that was getting attention by such means was worth it? Sure, it was a negative group and still is. I can state this because I have been its only target for these many years. Me, a 57 year old guy that has had to battle 4th stage colon cancer since 2009. ''

That doesn't add up.

Is it late and I'm mis-mathing? Or do those ages genuinely conflict with each other?

Glenn Barbis Jr.
01-26-2012, 06:18 AM
It's late here, and my math may be a bit squiggly, but in the thread from 2000 he states he is 47.

BUT in his blogpost from 2 days he states ''9 Years later!? That boggles my mind. Would someone want to be apart of a group so badly that was getting attention by such means was worth it? Sure, it was a negative group and still is. I can state this because I have been its only target for these many years. Me, a 57 year old guy that has had to battle 4th stage colon cancer since 2009. ''

That doesn't add up.

Is it late and I'm mis-mathing? Or do those ages genuinely conflict with each other?

In RickWorld it does. Rick has never been able to keep his lies straight. He really needs an indexed notebook (probably 3 or 4) to keep track of everything he says, so he can go back and reference what lie he wants to keep perpetuating.

bert
01-26-2012, 07:17 AM
On the old Comicon.com threads, his birthday was June 27. And in the Jun. 27, 2000 thread, he states he is 47.

http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=452219&page=1

*This isn't the infamous thread when nobody wished him a Happy Birthday.THIS IS. (http://www.comicon.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=280510&page=1) *


out of context. . but in Rick's OWN WORDS:


"I just popped my head up outta my hole "


BWAAAA-HAAAAA-HAAAAAA-HAAAAA

Artful Angie
01-26-2012, 07:37 AM
No one has commented on the main point of the Shedding Poopblegh:


There are two sides to every story. This is my side; truthful and stated as it happened in every instance from my perspective as to how it happened. Draw your own conclusions. Respond in comments, if you are so inclined. Just don't walk through life thinking the best about people. Because some people are evil. But I'm not one of them.

You're absolutely right, Right. I will definitely not walk through life thinking the best about people. You don't mind if I start with you, do you?

Gail Simone
01-26-2012, 07:50 AM
Dude, I KNOW. I can't believe HE said that!

Gail Simone
01-26-2012, 08:17 AM
I'm still thinking of shutting the thread down...truth is, I'm sick of the guy, and the odds of him being able to successfully cheat more creators is pretty low, with J.R. and Bleeding Cool and the Beat watching him. All the resources exist elsewhere, and if anyone else wants to host the thread, that's fine. But it really is like looking at a one-legged dog desperately trying to pretend he's not out of the race yet.

SarahBeach
01-26-2012, 08:40 AM
His babblings do tend to be redundant, though sometimes he throws in things that amuse.

Although he declared he wasn't going to respond to anyone but Gail, I noticed in one of those posts (when I'm procratinating in writing, yes, I'll even read Rick Olney!) that he goes on at length about the word "cobble". Ah, poor Rick - he was upset that someone critisized his use of "cobble" for his "creation" of his comic book characters.

I was also a bit boggled by the news that a club with supposed adults in it had trouble keeping its treasurer's information straight. But then I've been in organizations since third grade - starting with a service organization, where we had to do all those duties (under the watchful eye of our adult sponsor, of course). If third graders can keep track of dues and expenses....

But what amused me was this --

Yes, comic books are entertainment.

I really don't know why he felt the need to put the whole sentence in boldface, plus emphasizing the word "are". Is there anyone who even simply knows about comic books that doesn't get the point that they are entertainment? It's sort of like defensively declaring that "The sun does so give off light!"

Ah well. He has a perverse "entertainment" value, but it isn't very high.

Gail, I'd hope that you wouldn't close this thread until we know the resolution of the Indiana Jones maps matter, although with all things Olney, I realize that I'm optimistic that this time we will see a wrap-up.

Gail Simone
01-26-2012, 09:12 AM
Oh, my god, he's right. Comics are entertainment! And here I thought they were potable commodities! HE's a GENIUS!

bert
01-26-2012, 09:50 AM
"potable commodities"

??


now where's that pic of a toilet when you need one?!


LOL

Outsider
01-26-2012, 09:51 AM
Gail, I'd hope that you wouldn't close this thread until we know the resolution of the Indiana Jones maps matter, although with all things Olney, I realize that I'm optimistic that this time we will see a wrap-up.

Seconded.

Gail Simone
01-26-2012, 10:01 AM
I'll think about it, but it's Rick Olney we're talking about, he will never, ever do the right thing on this. Doesn't matter that those maps were supposed to help disabled vets, all that matters is him.

Gail Simone
01-26-2012, 10:03 AM
I'm doing my Rick Olney impersonation today.

"Yes, comics ARE art with words and staples and paper or digital or something!"

Kevin T Brown
01-26-2012, 10:19 AM
I'm doing my Rick Olney impersonation today.

"Yes, comics ARE art with words and staples and paper or digital or something!"

You fail at being Olney.

The sentence was far too coherent.

Matt Doc Martin
01-26-2012, 12:09 PM
I would support thread being closed, and updated by mods with relevant information. Not sure how well it would work, but worth a vote, I guess.

Artful Angie
01-26-2012, 01:46 PM
Another thing it did was get us noticed. It was an ongoing sales pitch. Let me put it another way. I am prone to using the descriptive word cobble. In my day, a person that cobbled was called a cobbler.

And when exactly was your day, Rick? The 1700s?? 'Allo Guv'nor! Pip Pip and all that wot! Look out, Rick! There are some trolls in red coats coming down the road from the cobbler's place!

I think that explains why his writing is so awful, in both his comics and his blegh. He's still using Olde Tymey English!

Dragonbat
01-26-2012, 02:09 PM
I majored in English Lit, and had to take a mandatory 15 credits (i.e. 5 half-year courses) in Literature pre-1800. I assure you, from Caedmon's Hymn and Beowulf, through Spencer and Shakespeare, to Swift and Austen... that ain't ye merry olde English!

CutterMike
01-26-2012, 02:31 PM
The main drawback that I see to closing the thread would be rICK's crowing that he's "gotten the haters shut down" or "scared the schlubs off the web", or... you get the idea -- because the idea Gail would voluntarily shut down a venue for (as *HE* sees it) self-promotion would be utterly unthinkable to him. The idea that he was no longer either dangerous enough nor entertaining enough to warrant following would go right past him, leaving him basting himself in self-congratulation and potentially convincing people coming late to the party that -- since "the Haterz ran away" -- there must have been nothing to their allegations and rICK must be okay, after all..

MacQuarrie
01-26-2012, 02:59 PM
It's so cute when Ricky tries to use words.

The imbecile says: "I am prone to using the descriptive word cobble. In my day, a person that cobbled was called a cobbler.
Early on, a cobbler was someone that fixed shoes. Back in the 1950s and early 1960s, a cobbler was someone that tried to take an item or a situation and make it better."

Strangely enough, the American Heritage Dictionary disagrees with this assessment:

cob·ble 2 (kbl)
tr.v. cob·bled, cob·bling, cob·bles 1. To make or mend (boots or shoes).
2. To put together clumsily; bungle: cobbled a plan together at the last minute.

It's perfectly appropriate that he should label his efforts "cobbling."

Matt Doc Martin
01-26-2012, 03:01 PM
The main drawback that I see to closing the thread would be rICK's crowing that he's "gotten the haters shut down" or "scared the schlubs off the web", or... you get the idea -- because the idea Gail would voluntarily shut down a venue for (as *HE* sees it) self-promotion would be utterly unthinkable to him. The idea that he was no longer either dangerous enough nor entertaining enough to warrant following would go right past him, leaving him basting himself in self-congratulation and potentially convincing people coming late to the party that -- since "the Haterz ran away" -- there must have been nothing to their allegations and rICK must be okay, after all..


except that it WOULD still be updated..when needed.

AlexNess
01-26-2012, 03:27 PM
No no no people, when Rick talks cobbler he means Blueberry Cobbler... YEESH!

Artful Angie
01-26-2012, 03:29 PM
With what I have been "cobbling" together, once Rick sees it he'll call out a blacksmith to bend me over the iron will of Rick Olney, or a baker to grind my bones into his bread.

Just keep your butt away from the lit candles at the candlestick maker, Rick. We're talking nuclear flame here, folks.

CutterMike
01-26-2012, 04:56 PM
I think that rICK's use of "cobbler" is a load of cobblers. (Tips hat to our UK posters!)

SarahBeach
01-26-2012, 08:18 PM
Okay, in all fairness, when I was growing up in Michigan, in my family we did use the word "cobble" to mean "pull together haphazard elements to make something." It was not particularly derogatory, but there definitely was a sense of catch-as-catch-can, making-do, and mix-and-match.

It is, however, not I term I would ever use to describe any serious creative endeavor, especially not something I intended to put out professionally.

Rick is obviously using it to make himself sound like he's an old hand at this creative process, that he knows the ins-and-outs. But the real effect of his usage is to belittle the craft of storytelling. He's so sure he can turn out a professional level of work by "cobbling together" his ideas and stories.

Pfffft!
:no:
:razz:

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-26-2012, 09:05 PM
Rick's latest blog entry is disgusting and should be saved not only to show what type of person he is, but for a possible future legal action.

http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/2012/01/kicking-stones-holly-campbell.html#comment-form

The only good thing is Rick is so stupid he doesn't realize that the few friends of his who follow him on Facebook, who think he's this sweet good Christian will also see what kind of man he is from the blog. Way to out yourself to them Rick.

Matt Doc Martin
01-26-2012, 09:16 PM
Rick's latest blog entry is disgusting and should be saved not only to show what type of person he is, but for a possible future legal action.

http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/2012/01/kicking-stones-holly-campbell.html#comment-form

The only good thing is Rick is so stupid he doesn't realize that the few friends of his who follow him on Facebook, who think he's this sweet good Christian will also see what kind of man he is from the blog. Way to out yourself to them Rick.

Rick Olney is a disgusting pervert and a twisted freak.

SarahBeach
01-26-2012, 09:21 PM
Well, what a crap thing of him to do. He posted all that vague stuff about the model hoping to draw her out, and that she'd say he wasn't all that bad. Even though she told us herself back then where her story was. But in his snooping around of where she is now, she seems to have left modeling and is now into nursing. I think we should leave her alone -- he's obviously hoping we'll drag her back into this mess. But I see no reason to do that. Her own statements are documented elsewhere and that's enough of that.

But when I was looking at the blog, I didn't realize he'd added that comment about her personal losses! She lost a child in 2009, and he has the GALL to imply it might be "bad karma" because she spoke out against him? What a creep!

*Deep breath*

He is REALLY trying to distract us from serious CURRENT issues. Such as -- He's a thief holding on to property illegally, and it's grand theft larceny, since their value easily exceeds $5,000.

bert
01-26-2012, 09:37 PM
eh. . . I think just don't give him the satisfaction of reacting to it.

He know exactly what kind of person he is, he don't need anyone from here to tell him the truth.

Although I do note he took my comment to heart, and is making every effort to be consistent with his " marks around Gail now. Too bad the punctuation is still a problem (sometimes "Gails" and sometimes "Gail's").

And of course, I do absolutely feel the need to point out to this fool, that most people, when posing for a picture (a gathering at a location that has absolutely NOTHING to do with Olney), will smile for said picture. That's why the photographer will typically say "Smile" before taking the picture.


(and also I find it absolutely hysterical, that auto correct here, attempts to correct "Olney" with "Boloney")
Certainly, I'm not the first to notice this. . .BWA-HAA-HAA

Gail Simone
01-26-2012, 09:53 PM
Rick, you are one sick fuck.

We never used Holly's name. I didn't even KNOW Holly's name.

You posted this:

"Kicking Stones: Holly Campbell
Recent photo of Holly Campbell

The title is figurative, and does not necessary mean literally. Although, Ms. Holly Campbell was an early on contention factor against me. I won't drag up the negative lies and facets of the salt water taffy stretched truth by quote by the usual suspects pictured above. I will share with you, the reader, that this is another offering of the other side of a 'story' that supposedly denotes that I was this big old bad womanizer. Again, I contend strongly that I was not.

Holly Campbell actually came to me via a MySpace interaction online. This predates my Facebook account by 6-7 years. I was interacting in the horror genre, investigating The Spooky (look for a separate recount of that happenstance too) through a bunch of horror websites and as I recall it all, Holly was a horror fan. She also posed for a number of photos that were at one time back in the 1990s and early first years of this century on modeling websites. On Model Mayhem.com, Holly was a featured model. She is no longer. Her profile and photos on that site have been removed. This made me curious what she had done with her life, so I went in search of her online.

I can't recall the exact details. I know that what has been alleged of me was not as it has been attempted to be mad 'mythic' about me. I don't even know how the connection to Holly Campbell was made, other than at one time she may have posted on my old and now defunct forums on a comics website of mine. Some might say, why bring this up now? Certainly, I am only trying to present the other side of a story shard used against me periodically to villify and present me as a fiend. I am not a fiend. I do not prey on woman. I have many female friends now, and always have had females that have both worked with me, for me, and around me. I'm respectful of their strengths and actually admire strong out spoken females in all phases of my life. I don't think that makes me evil.
This is a kicking stone, not looking to roll a huge rock over to see what's over it. I didn't place Holly Campbell before the haters. She seemingly placed herself there, I guess. Yeah, it was years ago, but I'm not one that looks at time that way. You know, as something that has to never be discussed. I'm just as interested in finding the truth and answers, but it is important to try and discover and learn what was in Holly's mind back then. So this little look into her life then and how she has grown and changed is important, I'd say. Like "Gail Simone" taking on the pen name she did and keeping her real name and identity 'secret' for the time that it was. "Gail" was a hairdresser, as I recall. There are psychological indicators there too. Cutting hair then, being creative on the heads of people. Today, cutting stories from her imagination and cutting into me every chance she gets. Yeah, I can laugh at the analogy. Just another indicator to me friends, that she doesn't bother me on all levels. "Gail" and her bunch are inconsequential to what I accomplish in my life. They have no power over me personally. They do, obviously, work hard to color the view of me and who I am with there creative writing skills, off-the-cuff insults and all the made-up lies.

"Gail" may not realize or know it -- but when she says that same thing of me? I'm not the person dragging her name around on a message board to personify and make myself appear so self important. Oh yeah, I 'zing' her from time to time in a blog. And those blogs, each and all taken down by me. Nobody else. Under no threat from any of the usual subjects or from Google either, I have to add. So all that assertion and innuendo by the haters... simply contrived bullshit.

But back to Holly! My first photo from her (pictured below) was this first one:

It didn't take long to track her to having furthered her life. I initially was glad to read and see this. She now working using a BN degree for a private facility helping people. Of course this isn't the Holly that I had briefly interacted with communication wise back nearly ten years ago. And why had I entered into a few emails with her. Well, I believe I had communicated on MySpace that I was (at that time) looking for a female to travel from their home base to a variety of comic book pop culture events on a yearly basis for my TightLip Entertainment company. The purpose was to dress in a pre-provided costume, a thing that was widely used at that time by independent publishers at comics events, to highlight my Anchor female character from (again) my Freedom 3 comic that was making its way via TightLip to that eventually.

Some very damaging things have been alleged against me regarding females. People that know me know better of me. Only haters or people who had, what they may have viewed at a time, as a nice (although hate driven) opportunity taken, with anxiety pushing it onward against me to construct such 'made-up' stories.

Holly mentions on her photo -- "Transparent Always"-- although she's not that transparent now. What did that even mean? Well, it made me curious to check out her model profile and accept freely shared images that she sent me, mainly to promote herself. No, it appeared then and now that she either set her anxiety in motion against me through the early CBR crap gathering days, or it all goes to show how a person's name and circumstance can end up on the Internet when a group of no life, low lifes individuals set an agenda to harass and demean, smear and destroy a person. ... an entirely fabricated story to hurt someone, in this case... me.

How else can anyone explain what you find in putting my name through Google. "Gail" said it recently herself. She alludes with great glee how happy she is to be able to use me as a kicking post. What sort of person does that? What sort of person purposely makes it their mission to destroy someone on all levels? Ask yourself that, readers. I know more people in comics read this by special invitation than is allowed (by me) to show up on Feedjit.

Me... I'm now kicking Holly Campbell. Right or wrong, it will feed the trouble makers and liars.

And what am I hoping to accomplish? Does it bother me to stoop this low like the usual subjects pictured above, enjoying their gathering and the 'tag' that they, themselves, have placed upon their gang?

Yes, but NOT from the perspective that you may think. Kindly do not fail to notice WHO stands within the middle of the group; who leads them to post daily on her provided forum. Oh, and yes, we'll get into that at some point in time. I have actual facts and figures on what drives "Gails" claim to writing fame. It isn't pretty. Notice the smiles. They are proud of themselves. Should they be? You be the judge.

Let them bother Holly Campbell and drag her back into this, if they dare. If it happens it'll be "Gail" allowing it to happen and made public. I'm not afraid in any regard. See... Holly was also under a contract. Contracts do not mean anything once they've shit on them unless they're their contracts. And even then, some former work-for-hire individuals simply don't get it. Anyway, one mention of Holly will unleash more 'evidence' by me that Holly Campbell has 'grown' up as a person, taken on a career. Certainly I'm not saying that she should be ashamed of her photos. Especially in the facets of modeling and trying to be noticed and attract jobs. She's moved on in a forward direction in her life. Holly was different publicly back then though. She has changed from what the Internet discloses of her today. And, it may not seem like it, but -- I have always wished Holly well. Still do. But not at my own good name.

Will she contact me herself? Not sure. Don't care beyond hoping that she can correct the version of her part of the "Gail Simone" and gang drama. I don't need to take this all into a court to decide. I can prove it all right here by the nature of the photos and Holly's own image of herself back then. I don't want to do it, but the truth is also a factor in, it is what it is... what it has been made to look like.
I hope I'm not goaded and jeered into posting ALL the photos that she had taken (at that time) to try and show me how she would have made a superb draw for TightLip Entertainment and my female Anchor character.

In Closing For Now...

Oh, and there will be a blog post coming address ownership of my characters. My character are copyright protected. I have no idea how JTPencils (Jim Taylor) can make such bold claims of having designed a number of my characters, alleging that he tackled characters not even assigned him and definitely outside the requirements of his freelance work-for-hire contract -- when he I have proof predating his art going back to numerous other images of those same characters by other (in some cases, more qualified artists). Again, the truth will come out in time. Or, at least, the other side of a very convoluted story told by others will be told and shared here.

You draw your own conclusions. [no pun intended]
"


And then, because you are the grossest piece of shit on Earth, you posted this:

"Rick OlneyJan 26, 2012 09:54 PM

Again, consider well in advance of what you do and allow, "Gail" ... as further investigation of Holly Campbell online revels something which I did not know.

On http://www.gonetoosoon.org/garden/hollycampbell/

Holly shares above the following:

About me
Just when the entire world feels so cruel...kind hearted souls reach out to comfort you in places like this.

I lost my beloved only child Gage on April 21, 2009 to suicide and my handsome Sam on August 13, 2009.

I didn't know this. Bad mojo? I hope not."





I hope to god anyone stupid enough to think you have an ounce of decency left reads that.

You are scum.

Just when I think you can't get any lower, you ALWAYS MANAGE TO DO SO.

Gail Simone
01-26-2012, 10:01 PM
Honestly, guys...I think he's scared and alone.

I think he knows no one gives a shit about him and if this thread closes, he'll fade right back into being a deadbeat nobody, which is what he's more afraid of than anything.

Gail Simone
01-26-2012, 10:03 PM
Holly, I hope to God you are not reading this and didn't read Rick's disgusting comments.

If you did, all our hearts go out to you. That man is evil. There's no other word for it.
What he says is meaningless because all he has is hatred of people who aren't as twisted
and repulsive as he is.

I am very sorry to hear of your tragic losses. It can't even be imagined what you have gone through.
I am so very, very sorry.

Gail Simone
01-26-2012, 10:12 PM
I stress this is the same idiot who thought he magically made Colleen Doran's cat sick because she posted about deadbeats and he thought she meant him (she didn't).

Too gross to even find amusing anymore.

I think I'm sick of him. I don't care if the thread continues elsewhere, but I think it's time to shut it down here.

Artful Angie
01-26-2012, 10:19 PM
I know that what has been alleged of me was not as it has been attempted to be mad 'mythic' about me.

Does anyone even understand this sentence, or is it just because it's late for me here??


but I'm not one that looks at time that way. You know, as something that has to never be discussed.

We know that, Rick. You say the same things all the time. Forever.


Like "Gail Simone" taking on the pen name she did and keeping her real name and identity 'secret' for the time that it was. "Gail" was a hairdresser, as I recall. There are psychological indicators there too. Cutting hair then, being creative on the heads of people. Today, cutting stories from her imagination and cutting into me every chance she gets. Yeah, I can laugh at the analogy.

I can laugh at the ANALogy, too. Because I have no frakking clue what the heck you're trying to say and neither does anyone else I think.


Just another indicator to me friends, that she doesn't bother me on all levels. "Gail" and her bunch are inconsequential to what I accomplish in my life.

Hmm.. that would be... Nothing? I mean, no real accomplishments other than becoming a thief, liar, and con artist. But other than that, You're all good!


"Gail" may not realize or know it -- but when she says that same thing of me? I'm not the person dragging her name around on a message board to personify and make myself appear so self important. Oh yeah, I 'zing' her from time to time in a blog. And those blogs, each and all taken down by me. Nobody else. Under no threat from any of the usual subjects or from Google either, I have to add. So all that assertion and innuendo by the haters... simply contrived bullshit.

See, the previous post about Rick's honesty. Rick, I call bullshit and challenge you to prove it. If you were the one who pulled Numbling & Tingling down and not Google then all you have to do to prove it is put it back up for 72 hours.

If you do that, I will publicly announce my real identity here in this blog, allowing you to finally see who has been the "thorn not in your side" for so long!

BUT! You have 24 hours from this post to put it back up for those three days. If it's not up by this time tomorrow night, I am calling you A LIAR and YOU WILL BE STATING FOR THE RECORD THAT YOU LIED AND GOOGLE REMOVED YOU!


Holly mentions on her photo -- "Transparent Always"-- although she's not that transparent now. What did that even mean?

Hmm.. Maybe it was meant to be deep. You know, like a Sequentially soulful deep? Don't try to think too hard on it, Rick. You might sprain something.


How else can anyone explain what you find in putting my name through Google.

It's a thing called "the truth". You're not familiar with the concept so you might have to look it up, Rick.


Does it bother me to stoop this low like the usual subjects pictured above, enjoying their gathering and the 'tag' that they, themselves, have placed upon their gang?

It's all you do, Rick. That and wish more people would let you get away with the schemes you sit on your welfare-receiving butt at home and try to think of more "homage" covers to make your comic "characters" seem less lame than they are.

Oh, I forgot. You're not on welfare. You're on disability. I didn't know they listed mental illnesses such as feces obsession as a reason for that.


I have actual facts and figures on what drives "Gails" claim to writing fame.

I don't see "Gail" claiming to be famous for writing, Rick. Actually I see this little company called DC Comics (DISCLAIMER: A division of Time-Warner Inc) telling us all she's a writer. By, you know, actually hiring her to write for them and stuff! You couldn't even get people to pay you $5.00 to have you send them your crappy stories. She makes enough to be able to pay for trips to conventions all over the country or the world, including hotel accomidations.

BUT she doesn't have to dish out money for these things. You see, GOOD conventions pay for these things for her. In advance.

You mentioned accomplishments before, Ricky. Was your credit card being declined for hotels and airfare considered an accommplishment, Ricky? HAHAHAHA


Holly was also under a contract. Contracts do not mean anything once they've shit on them unless they're their contracts. And even then, some former work-for-hire individuals simply don't get it.

Well, that's not exactly true either, Rick. If you hired her to put on some fetish costume you dreamed up for one of your nerdgasms, but she never actually performed the services for which you hired her, then she's not covered by one of your infamous NDAs. Now had she gone to a con as a rep/model for TightLip Entertainament, then that's a different story.

Besides Rick: You and I know exactly what you hired her for, and whether or not she fufilled the "services" you were hoping to get out of her. To Rick's chagrin, and Holly's delight, those "services" Rick was looking for didn't happen.


She has changed from what the Internet discloses of her today. And, it may not seem like it, but -- I have always wished Holly well. Still do. But not at my own good name.

Everybody changes, Rick. Once upon a time, the Internet said you were an okay guy. See what it discloses today?

And I'm not familiar with your good name? Is that in Upper Mongolia, where they don't have comic books or the Internet yet?


Will she contact me herself? Not sure.

Desperate for the attention much, Rick? Why don't you just contact her yourself and see? Or is the restraining order still in effect? LOL


I hope I'm not goaded and jeered into posting ALL the photos that she had taken (at that time) to try and show me how she would have made a superb draw for TightLip Entertainment and my female Anchor character

Besides, Barb doesn't know he still has those pictures. They're hidden in the bathroom for when he's "reading" with the door locked and the music loud.


I don't want to do it, but the truth is also a factor in, it is what it is... what it has been made to look like.

Wait, so is this a typo or is he actually acknowledging that the truth is exactly "what is has been made to look like"?


Oh, and there will be a blog post coming address ownership of my characters. My character are copyright protected. I have no idea how JTPencils (Jim Taylor) can make such bold claims of having designed a number of my characters, alleging that he tackled characters not even assigned him and definitely outside the requirements of his freelance work-for-hire contract -- when he I have proof predating his art going back to numerous other images of those same characters by other (in some cases, more qualified artists).

GASP! JT! Did you do something that Rick Olney is declaring was unethical and wronged him in some way?? And if so, what is your address so I can send a muffin basket?


So, basically it boils down to Rick trying to call out someone who hasn't even said a single thing about Rick in years, just to see if she'll badmouth him too? He did it with Matt Busch. He did it with Michael Kellar. He did it with Don Krick. Is this his plan? Draw more people into his drama to speak out against him? What? Is he hoping that if he gets enough people to speak against him, he'll try to get those "state and federal laws against gangs" to get us shut down? I thought he was going to use those "anti-bullying" laws he was spouting about last year to show us who's boss?

So the old tired stuff gives way to this kind of meltdown? It's almost sad to beat him at his own game of words. It's like kicking a legless Nazi. Sure you feel good for fighting fascism, but he's so harmless is it a fair fight?

Glenn Barbis Jr.
01-26-2012, 11:32 PM
And is it any wonder why some of us (me included) feel Rick is capable and even willing to fake the severity of something we are told not to talk about here anymore. I thought it was pretty low ripping off friends and charities, but Olney always manages to sink to an ever lower level.

I still remember when Rick commissioned a friend of mine to draw some adult pics of female superheroes (The Thing peeking in on a naked Invisible Girl in the shower, naked Wonder Woman & Lara Croft, etc...) for a "friend" of his. My buddy drew them, and when he asked for the money before he would send them, got the runaround from Rick, and eventually months later had to put them up on eBay to get the money. Funny how this so-called "friend" acted just like Rick, in never wanting to pay for something he asked for. And also funny was how this "friend" never contacted my pal personally. It was always thru Rick they communicated. No name was ever mentioned of this "friend" either.

Rick is and always will be a lying, thieving, disgusting excuse of a creature.

Erica J Heflin
01-27-2012, 03:07 AM
I stress this is the same idiot who thought he magically made Colleen Doran's cat sick because she posted about deadbeats and he thought she meant him (she didn't).

Too gross to even find amusing anymore.

I think I'm sick of him. I don't care if the thread continues elsewhere, but I think it's time to shut it down here.

He's extremely sick. At this point it seems that his obsession with this thread is feeding that sickness. In that light I think shutting it down may well be the best course of action.

For those who fear that Rick will get satisfaction out of the thread closing, why care? His satisfaction and gloating will never be based in reality.

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 03:41 AM
Yeah, you can read his current flip-out, I got a couple paragraphs in and gave up. It's just too stupid.

It's pretty obvious he's terrified of us shutting the thread down, which makes me more inclined to do it. He loves being talked about, even if it's by people who only have
bad things to say. We shut the thread, and the only people talking about him are Rick, Rick, and Rick, and occasionally a news site when he sets up some new con.

Outsider, can you screen cap the new stuff, please?

After what Rick said to Cesar and this stuff about Holly, I seriously think he's his own worst punishment. No human being with a soul behaves like that.

Disgusting.

Artful Angie
01-27-2012, 03:50 AM
It looks like he's been up all night studying the thread and his fingers couldn't keep up with his brainwhich for Rick is prety surprising.

http://sheddinglightonlies.blogspot.com/2012/01/kicking-stones-talk-of-cobble-cobbler.html


Friday, January 27, 2012Kicking Stones: Talk of Cobble, Cobbler, and Shutting Down the Rick Olney Thread?
Perish the thought!
At this late date, and after all this time -- Do you really think it matters to me in any regard?

No. Not really.

This is the blog that shall never go away. Like all you've maliciously and very often untruthfully stated about me stated about me -- this points out how you have conspired, often through thread editing and imaginative writing and outright smear tactics to ruin my good name. This is me on a rant. This isn't me being the person who you each claim to know so intimately. No, this is the person that has nothing to lose. Nothing. And actually, I have everything to gain, and I am so either set your sights higher with all your scummy blogs trying to work your E-V-I-L or go about the positive business of your no life, low life existences. Each, without a doubt given personal substance by your attraction to me and my earliest problems involving matters that certainly didn't concern you.

I have options that you each have take which I never took against you. It wasn't that I couldn't have. It was that I optioned to NOT take those low roads. And what do you complain about? An image of a crap filled toilet. Be proud "Gail Simone" ... it describes your most beloved and famous thread about me on the Internet. A thread carried over from Comic Book Resources to the Brian Bendis owned 606Studios forum you have. Your most fed and visited thread with a life of its own. Be proud. You OWN it! Not me...



Clear to me that Bert can't read. Dummy. I never cared that you were gay. Really. Your gay nature is yours, mister. You own it.

That goes for Alex also. My initial offer to him back regarding doing some work for Adirondathon was a genuine outreaching. Yes, you are owed that $40-$45 dollars. I do ot dispute that. You never got paid because you took the lower road, joined the gang, bought their sales pitch and ran off to join the Circus. I then was hesitant to simply send money to an address which I didn't know was still active or not. You and Bert, along with whomever can bask in your life styles and personal choices. And see... you can each now jeer me for breaking what I just communicated last night regarding talking or addressing anyone other than "Gail" on this blog. My answer is simple.

I do what I do outside and away from you each because I'm not any different than (a) Holly Campbell. Just a person trying to position himself to move forward to be able to clean up any previous mistakes and messes left from your wake in my life. I'll always tell you that you -- NONE of you -- now the full nature of Law, karma, or the Laws that you have never understood. Whatever you try to make people think shall backfire and impact your lives adversely and, in some cases, on levels that nobody can understand. That is how evil rewards E-V-I-L.

As to "Gail's" exact first name, again who really cares. She can be Tamara, Tamrin, or Tammeronni for all I care. Again, see the single image above. I care not what her nationality or exact ethnic origin may be. I have gays and Jews in my family. I also have people of other skin colors. You know, the type of people that you have tried to assert I am prejudiced against all the last bunch of years. Again, epic fail on your part, "Gail" ... I have friends within the industry and outside of it that fit those descriptions too.


What's weird is that he every thinks that worked. Haven't cared, have reposted it a bunch of times myself.

I don't go by Tammy, no one knows me as Tammy, anyway, he still hasn't got his facts right. Dumbo scores again.


What's nice is, that on the day he has his latest golden oldie meltdown, so many amazing things have happened, good things, positive things.

I got an offer to work with a legendary artist who specifically requested me, I get to work on another project in film, I have been invited to tons
of REAL conventions, run by honest, intelligent people who know what they're doing. Nice.

Nicer still, a wonderful artist, Al Davison, who was born with Spina Bifida and is currently in a wheelchair (but is also a fifth degree gung fu and first degree karate black belt),
is working on a book, I posted about it, and it raised $1200 for his indiegogo page in a single day. So, a BRILLIANT artist will likely be doing a WONDERFUL book,
and guess what? None of the characters are Mary Sues or thinly-veiled rip-offs of much better Marvel characters.

A very good day.


Again, I assert to the world and anyone bothering to find this blog that -- It was always you, the leader of the group that came together to damage my good name, harass me, my family, my friends, along with working diligently through your association with UNSCREWED.com and the blathering of Rich Johnston and still others trying to use my name and their attempts against me to bring more attention to themselves which you birthed. Very shortly, a letter writing campaign shall be launched against you. Oh, not simply by me. I won't let the cat-out-of-the-bag, but things ARE changing on the lawlessness coming to the Internet. Specifically to attempts and accomplishments by you and those others behind the various blog sites and web site smears against me. You can try to make yourself greater than you are, as with the case of said "Al Davison, who was born with Spina Bifida" ... but as the image states.


He's such a fucking idiot. Holy crap, I can't remember speaking with anyone so dumb in my entire life. Yikes.

I've been over all this a million times, but what the hell.

First, Rick, the Mighty Mini Con was NOT the first con I ever attended. I attended a lovely show in Portland, and was a guest of Marvel at the San Diego Comic Con before I ever attended your event. If you'd like to say yours was the first incompetent, horribly run convention I attended, yes, that's a truthful statement. One paragraph in and you're not
doing too well on facts.

Really? Why have you made the 2003 Mighty Mincon, an event that treated you so kind and with as much free food as everyone else had available to them such a negative ploy over the last 7 years then?


Second, I never, EVER asked you to pay for my husband's airfare, everyone knows it. Never. I have proved it in email time and again, you brought up that idea, that you would pay his airfare, as a typical Olney stalling tactic. I never asked for it, not once. Prove it. Show a post or an email. I have posted your emails on this several times, and you have always went crying back home, unwilling to face your own words in black and white.

Not true. The truth of that matter has yet to be shared or divulged. I DO have the emails that we sent back and forth to each other and your side of the 'story' does not exactly match the facts of what you told me and asked me.


Second, again, the hundred dollars was YOUR idea, when you didn't pay the full amount owed. Another typical Olney stalling tactic, you've used it on many pros...you delay and delay payment, then, to FURTHER keep people waiting, you say you will pay them a 'bonus' for the trouble. Then of course, you never pay that either. YOU came up with the $100, you delayed paying it for two years with a series of bullshit "It's in the mail!" and "I have to get it from a special account!" excuses. Same exact trick you pulled on a dozen other pros you've cheated. I've posted those emails many times as well. We've all
seen them, everyone who has had any dealings with you whatsoever knows exactly what I'm talking about.

Not true. The truth is as it was at the 2003 Mighty Minicon and if people go unpaid it is because you have worked diligently to cause my reputation to fail in that regard, and me... I sat back and let you state things that were not true based on the emails and encouragement (and legal advice, I have to add) to IGNORE YOU and the usual suspects.

Well, you compounded that with your last August to November and ongoing attacks against Adirondathon, and I don't even own that company. But, again, on advise from people that I respect and admire as friends and 'partners' of a sort ... I held off saying much of anything. So yeah, read the truth and other side of a 'story' you made up and weep.


Paid Greg Horn or Mike Kaluta yet, Rick? You've been a deadbeat to them for all these years, and they signed no NDA and never talked about the MMC in public. Why haven't you paid THEM yet, deadbeat?

I have no desire to 'suck up' to Chuck Dixon. I barely know Chuck and haven't talked to him in a couple years. Keep trying, deadbeat. The truth is, you cheated Chuck, like you cheated every other pro who worked on the Tightlip books. And they all hate your guts.

Nice 'good reputation' you have there, Ricky.

A "good reputation" which you've worked hard at fostering, festering and picking at like a scab, "Gail"... be proud. You 'facts' are again, false. You stick your nose into matters which you think you've gathered all the facts on, and feeling superior (with your 'gang' behind you), you stress how 'crazy' I am. Laong with having others spam and warn off under threat of implied exposure to their working with Adirondathon, again, as you thought I owned that company... and you persuaded conracted guests to avoid and cancel with the Adirondack ComicFest last fall of 2011. Based on wha!?? Your hyped up lies about your 2003 Mighty Minicon performance. Comtrary to what you want to believe, images do not lie. Again, if you knew me, you'd know better.

And -- Horn, Kauta?

You caused them to be placed where they are with me. I have a record of what they are owed, and they've left it all to be a bitter memory thanks to you and your meddling. So be it. Does that mean that they can't be paid by me? No, certainly not! I am patient man (No pun intended). I have left them 'waiting' because YOU became involved in business matters that had nothing to do with you. You've stated from your professional corner of the Internet for along time. I never denied it. In fact, I did contact them both previously yeas back and attempted restitution for what I knew they were owed. Minimal sums that didn't even add up to the $100 dollars which you tried to bilk from ORCA via your claim to me back in 2003 and 2004, and then throughout your entire litany against me. If they became turned off by your nonsense and lies then that was what got them on a back burner. Should you ever correct your errors, then I'll make headway and correct the matters that weigh on your mind so much.

No, really I shall.

Moving on to a closing here...


Just a note to everyone... Notice that he's not mentioning Lucasfilm, Matt Busch and the maps Rick stole?

This whole thing is because he wants to avoid discussing that. It might be a good idea to focus on this issue and let Olney start yakking away and sink himself further.

Don't get your drawers in a wad. It is coming. Wouldn't miss updating the matter for the world, although I doubt you realize that, "Curiosity killed the cat and 'twas satisfaction brought it back."


Originally Posted by Mr. Sounds-Like-He's-Being-Honest

"I just popped my head up outta my hole "

Originally Posted by Bert
"BWAAAA-HAAAAA-HAAAAAA-HAAAAA"


Again, played right into it, Bert. Glad you got a chuckle though. And from "Gail Simone" we read:

Dude, I KNOW. I can't believe HE said that!

So childish a response from a grown woman.


I'm still thinking of shutting the thread down...truth is, I'm sick of the guy, and the odds of him being able to successfully cheat more creators is pretty low, with J.R. and Bleeding Cool and the Beat watching him. All the resources exist elsewhere, and if anyone else wants to host the thread, that's fine. But it really is like looking at a one-legged dog desperately trying to pretend he's not out of the race yet.
Pull yourself away from the mirror. Where those others are concerned or the blog harassing are concerned -- You own it all. You own them. You inform them, motivate them, and pretty much feed the idiocy. It all stems from you and your gang, "Gail".


I'll think about it, but it's Rick Olney we're talking about, he will never, ever do the right thing on this. Doesn't matter that those maps were supposed to help disabled vets, all that matters is him.
Wrong again. I have a disabled veterans group all picked out and aware of what and when they'll receive any money coming their way. Again, so poorly misinformed.


And when exactly was your day, Rick? The 1700s?? 'Allo Guv'nor! Pip Pip and all that wot! Look out, Rick! There are some trolls in red coats coming down the road from the cobbler's place!

I think that explains why his writing is so awful, in both his comics and his blegh. He's still using Olde Tymey English!

You're still a loser. But in case, you're closer to a truth than you shall ever know. You don't know everything, nor shall you ever.


I majored in English Lit, and had to take a mandatory 15 credits (i.e. 5 half-year courses) in Literature pre-1800. I assure you, from Caedmon's Hymn and Beowulf, through Spencer and Shakespeare, to Swift and Austen... that ain't ye merry olde English!
Exactly.


The main drawback that I see to closing the thread would be rICK's crowing that he's "gotten the haters shut down" or "scared the schlubs off the web", or... you get the idea -- because the idea Gail would voluntarily shut down a venue for (as *HE* sees it) self-promotion would be utterly unthinkable to him. The idea that he was no longer either dangerous enough nor entertaining enough to warrant following would go right past him, leaving him basting himself in self-congratulation and potentially convincing people coming late to the party that -- since "the Haterz ran away" -- there must have been nothing to their allegations and rICK must be okay, after all..

Which basically translates into, "But where we go to be a group with purpose in our lives??"

You're such a loser. Yes, a no life low life.

In Closing... Try The Cherry Cobbler!


It's so cute when Ricky tries to use words.

The imbecile says: "I am prone to using the descriptive word cobble. In my day, a person that cobbled was called a cobbler. Early on, a cobbler was someone that fixed shoes. Back in the 1950s and early 1960s, a cobbler was someone that tried to take an item or a situation and make it better."

Strangely enough, the American Heritage Dictionary disagrees with this assessment:

cob·ble 2 (kbl) tr.v. cob·bled, cob·bling, cob·bles 1. To make or mend (boots or shoes).
2. To put together clumsily; bungle: cobbled a plan together at the last minute.

It's perfectly appropriate that he should label his efforts "cobbling."

Try #2, you big dummy.



Okay, in all fairness, when I was growing up in Michigan, in my family we did use the word "cobble" to mean "pull together haphazard elements to make something." It was not particularly derogatory, but there definitely was a sense of catch-as-catch-can, making-do, and mix-and-match.

It is, however, not I term I would ever use to describe any serious creative endeavor, especially not something I intended to put out professionally.

Rick is obviously using it to make himself sound like he's an old hand at this creative process, that he knows the ins-and-outs. But the real effect of his usage is to belittle the craft of storytelling. He's so sure he can turn out a professional level of work by "cobbling together" his ideas and stories.

Pfffft!

Fairness? Perish the thought! A ploy or trap, something to "belittle the craft of storytelling" ... ummm, no.


Well, what a crap thing of him to do. He posted all that vague stuff about the model hoping to draw her out, and that she'd say he wasn't all that bad. Even though she told us herself back then where her story was. But in his snooping around of where she is now, she seems to have left modeling and is now into nursing. I think we should leave her alone -- he's obviously hoping we'll drag her back into this mess. But I see no reason to do that. Her own statements are documented elsewhere and that's enough of that.

Sure. Go for it. "Her own statements are documented elsewhere and that's enough of that."
And WHO Is being heartless?

But when I was looking at the blog, I didn't realize he'd added that comment about her personal losses! She lost a child in 2009, and he has the GALL to imply it might be "bad karma" because she spoke out against him? What a creep!

*Deep breath* ( Rick Note: Smelling your own shit has that affect on losers.)

He is REALLY trying to distract us from serious CURRENT issues. Such as -- He's a thief holding on to property illegally, and it's grand theft larceny, since their value easily exceeds $5,000.

Thanks for confirming that in print, but your views legally are poppycock. I'll also correct you in noting that she also lost her husband, I believe. A *new* low for me. Nope. I can prove that everything sent to me was done by her free will. No dates then or contractual obligations levied towards me obligated me in any such manner. Again, catch a clue. You do not know it all. You merely think you do. Read what Bert said and grow a pair instead of playing everything like drama. You'll hurt less people that way. Sad little shit spinning Drama Queen, you are, Sarah. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Distract you? Very laughable. You read here daily based on what I post that you all respond to on my blog talking about the very real answers to all the slam-jam bullshit you all perpetuated and threw-up into each others minds these last 7 years.


I hope to god anyone stupid enough to think you have an ounce of decency left reads that.

You would, "Gail Simone".


You are scum.

Just when I think you can't get any lower, you ALWAYS MANAGE TO DO SO.

Gives you something to shoot for, and well, taking lessons from you and yours has taught me a slow lesson or two. I can also add, as I have for a time now that you're not dealing with a well man. What is your excuse?

Honestly, guys...I think he's scared and alone.

Wrong again. Cool and calm here. Merely sharing what, under the laws presently that I am able to.



I think he knows no one gives a shit about him and if this thread closes, he'll fade right back into being a deadbeat nobody, which is what he's more afraid of than anything.

"Gail" -- You couldn't be more full of shit. And, no, I am not ranting. Simply stating fact responding to your, oh so civil dram here.


Holly, I hope to God you are not reading this and didn't read Rick's disgusting comments.

Well, it is because YOU, one of your trolls, or the usual suspects have spammed her and THAT, my dear Drama Queen, would be on you and your gang. Reconsult your attorney. Understand that what YOU have put in motion against me continually these last 7 years is now coming home to roost. Pack away your chick shit by cleaning it up, and that means all of it -- or face whatever is coming. Again, listening to WHOMEVER is legally advising you. And that does mean, the many other things placed in motion by your most infamous threads. HERE and on CBR. Don't worry, we'll clean up the Artful Angie crappola and the blogs aimed directly and illegally against me.


If you did, all our hearts go out to you. That man is evil. There's no other word for it.
What he says is meaningless because all he has is hatred of people who aren't as twisted
and repulsive as he is.

I am very sorry to hear of your tragic losses. It can't even be imagined what you have gone through.
I am so very, very sorry.

You're about as sincere as what generated it all in the first place, "Gail Simone". Shame on you!

I stress this is the same idiot who thought he magically made Colleen Doran's cat sick because she posted about deadbeats and he thought she meant him (she didn't).

Too gross to even find amusing anymore.

Doran's cat died from suicide. Have it dug up and autopsied. Or, spam her with email to let her know that her cat was mentioned.


I think I'm sick of him. I don't care if the thread continues elsewhere, but I think it's time to shut it down here.

"Gail" that may work for you but only if it gets rolled back to ALL the E-V-I-L spawned from your two message board forums, and the several harassing blogs that use my REAL name that work to your methods. Yeah, you can be sick of me... but you'll NEVER remove the STINK of what you've grown and fertilized from your OWN SHIT on your two massive threads. NEVER.
And from another troll hiding behind a phony screen name replied to with a deserving simple image:


See, the previous post about Rick's honesty. Rick, I call bullshit and challenge you to prove it. If you were the one who pulled Numbling & Tingling down and not Google then all you have to do to prove it is put it back up for 72 hours.

If you do that, I will publicly announce my real identity here in this blog, allowing you to finally see who has been the "thorn not in your side" for so long!

BUT! You have 24 hours from this post to put it back up for those three days. If it's not up by this time tomorrow night, I am calling you A LIAR and YOU WILL BE STATING FOR THE RECORD THAT YOU LIED AND GOOGLE REMOVED YOU!

Blogger time to restore my blogs removed has expired, but I'm sure that you knew that already. Nice try. Enjoy the image. It is sincere.

You mentioned accomplishments before, Ricky. Was your credit card being declined for hotels and airfare considered an accommplishment, Ricky? HAHAHAHA

Yeah, had YOU ever sponsored an event that size you'd know what it maens to pay responsible costs over houising a couple goofballs from Oregon that couldn't even afford their own hotel the night AFTER the one day event -- AFTER being given room accommodations the night before. It wasn't intended to be a sight seeing tour, was it? And you could have offered to put them up at your place, right? The RETURN AIRFARE wasn't part of the deal for Scott James, "Gail's" husband. HER ticket was already paid for and IN HER HANDS. Fucking loser. LOL


So, basically it boils down to Rick trying to call out someone who hasn't even said a single thing about Rick in years, just to see if she'll badmouth him too? He did it with Matt Busch. He did it with Michael Kellar. He did it with Don Krick. Is this his plan? Draw more people into his drama to speak out against him? What? Is he hoping that if he gets enough people to speak against him, he'll try to get those "state and federal laws against gangs" to get us shut down? I thought he was going to use those "anti-bullying" laws he was spouting about last year to show us who's boss?

To be truthful, I responded as I did to those that responded to me as they did. There ARE already legal precedents on the books in States on this, asshat. Additionally, you'd have to prove that my stress and medical circumstances were NOT at the crux of these 7 years worth of verbal assaults against me. Which, I believe would not hold up. I can't comment further on Kellar and his associations. Don Krick? Blowhard, gas bag, self inflated asshole. Dare I share another image? Nah, I'll wait. The party is just getting started.

Ask yourself though. A person willing to be 'creative' and face off against so many liars must certainly have another few surprises up his sleeve. Your own narcissistic natures prevent you from being led by Gail Simone, the lies, and by moi.

Anti-bullying laws? Your mere mention of them by introduction makes you a liability to the 'gang' you conduct yourself within. Again, keep glancing at that image above. And, drag your ass to stay real time on what has been taking place on THAT legal front across America, asshat.
Relax, it is later than you think.


So the old tired stuff gives way to this kind of meltdown? It's almost sad to beat him at his own game of words. It's like kicking a legless Nazi. Sure you feel good for fighting fascism, but he's so harmless is it a fair fight?

And now it is my time to laugh... BWAHAHAHAAaaaa!!! Thanks for introducing the word NAZI there as descriptive. It shows another legal precedent. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never referenced you or anyone else there that way. And you just tagged yourself another DRAMA QUEEN. So very rich, asshat.

Enjoy the cherry cobbler, losers.


Then he approved a comment from his only follower: Himself


Rick OlneyJan 27, 2012 12:52 AM

ph, and least anyone forget -- "The blog that you are about to view may contain content only suitable for adults. In general, Google does not review nor do we endorse the content of this or any blog. For more information about our content policies, please visit the Blogger Terms of Service."

Being here, reading this blog means that you acknowledge being a free thinking adult that has made a conscious effort to partake and join in, EVEN IF YOU ARE ONLY READING. The legal disclaimer is there for a reason.

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 03:56 AM
Skipped a bit to the end.

"Yeah, had YOU ever sponsored an event that size you'd know what it maens to pay responsible costs over houising a couple goofballs from Oregon that couldn't even afford their own hotel the night AFTER the one day event -- AFTER being given room accommodations the night before. It wasn't intended to be a sight seeing tour, was it? And you could have offered to put them up at your place, right? The RETURN AIRFARE wasn't part of the deal for Scott James, "Gail's" husband. HER ticket was already paid for and IN HER HANDS. Fucking loser. LOL "

It was paid for by ME, shithead. Because you lied repeatedly about when you would pay.
And guess what, idiot, EVERY con pays for the hotel nights a guest stays. EVERY con. If you couldn't
afford to keep your promises, you shouldn't do the con.

You paid, months late, MOST of my airfare. I never asked for you to pay my husband's airfare, it was
more Olney bullshit.

And trust me, NO ONE ON EARTH wanted to 'sightsee' one of the shittiest areas I've ever been to,
with the world's biggest blowhard prattling endlessly about how important he was in the industry, in the
middle of the night because he was too incompetent to book a room and too broke to pay for it.

Continue to delude yourself, Rick. I have shown the emails half a dozen times. You have never shown
a scrap of evidence to support your bullshit. Not once. And my story hasn't changed one iota since
day one, while you make up new excuses every few weeks as if people's memories are as bad
as your hygiene.

I'm going to shut the thread down. You have ruined your reputation with your constant lies,
and disgusting behavior. Now you can see what it's like when you have to go back to being
a nobody, spouting endless bullshit to yourself forever, to keep pretending you were ever
anybody in comics.

And I don't have to spam Colleen Doran. She's a friend. I didn't send her lunatic notes from
out of nowhere when she wrote a post about deadbeats. That's what happens when you
are an actual working pro and not a deluded, paranoid nutbag.

Good luck in your empty room, there, tough guy.

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 03:59 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and post his latest thing.

Jesus, it's weird, mention shutting down this thread and the FEAR just radiates off him like his convention b.o.

Seriously, we've seen him have dozens of meltdowns in the past, but doesn't this seem even crazier than usual?

"Kicking Stones: Talk of Cobble, Cobbler, and Shutting Down the Rick Olney Thread?
Perish the thought!
At this late date, and after all this time -- Do you really think it matters to me in any regard?

No. Not really.

This is the blog that shall never go away. Like all you've maliciously and very often untruthfully stated about me stated about me -- this points out how you have conspired, often through thread editing and imaginative writing and outright smear tactics to ruin my good name. This is me on a rant. This isn't me being the person who you each claim to know so intimately. No, this is the person that has nothing to lose. Nothing. And actually, I have everything to gain, and I am so either set your sights higher with all your scummy blogs trying to work your E-V-I-L or go about the positive business of your no life, low life existences. Each, without a doubt given personal substance by your attraction to me and my earliest problems involving matters that certainly didn't concern you.

I have options that you each have take which I never took against you. It wasn't that I couldn't have. It was that I optioned to NOT take those low roads. And what do you complain about? An image of a crap filled toilet. Be proud "Gail Simone" ... it describes your most beloved and famous thread about me on the Internet. A thread carried over from Comic Book Resources to the Brian Bendis owned 606Studios forum you have. Your most fed and visited thread with a life of its own. Be proud. You OWN it! Not me...


Clear to me that Bert can't read. Dummy. I never cared that you were gay. Really. Your gay nature is yours, mister. You own it.

That goes for Alex also. My initial offer to him back regarding doing some work for Adirondathon was a genuine outreaching. Yes, you are owed that $40-$45 dollars. I do ot dispute that. You never got paid because you took the lower road, joined the gang, bought their sales pitch and ran off to join the Circus. I then was hesitant to simply send money to an address which I didn't know was still active or not. You and Bert, along with whomever can bask in your life styles and personal choices. And see... you can each now jeer me for breaking what I just communicated last night regarding talking or addressing anyone other than "Gail" on this blog. My answer is simple.

I do what I do outside and away from you each because I'm not any different than (a) Holly Campbell. Just a person trying to position himself to move forward to be able to clean up any previous mistakes and messes left from your wake in my life. I'll always tell you that you -- NONE of you -- now the full nature of Law, karma, or the Laws that you have never understood. Whatever you try to make people think shall backfire and impact your lives adversely and, in some cases, on levels that nobody can understand. That is how evil rewards E-V-I-L.

As to "Gail's" exact first name, again who really cares. She can be Tamara, Tamrin, or Tammeronni for all I care. Again, see the single image above. I care not what her nationality or exact ethnic origin may be. I have gays and Jews in my family. I also have people of other skin colors. You know, the type of people that you have tried to assert I am prejudiced against all the last bunch of years. Again, epic fail on your part, "Gail" ... I have friends within the industry and outside of it that fit those descriptions too.

What's weird is that he every thinks that worked. Haven't cared, have reposted it a bunch of times myself.

I don't go by Tammy, no one knows me as Tammy, anyway, he still hasn't got his facts right. Dumbo scores again.


What's nice is, that on the day he has his latest golden oldie meltdown, so many amazing things have happened, good things, positive things.

I got an offer to work with a legendary artist who specifically requested me, I get to work on another project in film, I have been invited to tons
of REAL conventions, run by honest, intelligent people who know what they're doing. Nice.

Nicer still, a wonderful artist, Al Davison, who was born with Spina Bifida and is currently in a wheelchair (but is also a fifth degree gung fu and first degree karate black belt),
is working on a book, I posted about it, and it raised $1200 for his indiegogo page in a single day. So, a BRILLIANT artist will likely be doing a WONDERFUL book,
and guess what? None of the characters are Mary Sues or thinly-veiled rip-offs of much better Marvel characters.

A very good day.

Again, I assert to the world and anyone bothering to find this blog that -- It was always you, the leader of the group that came together to damage my good name, harass me, my family, my friends, along with working diligently through your association with UNSCREWED.com and the blathering of Rich Johnston and still others trying to use my name and their attempts against me to bring more attention to themselves which you birthed. Very shortly, a letter writing campaign shall be launched against you. Oh, not simply by me. I won't let the cat-out-of-the-bag, but things ARE changing on the lawlessness coming to the Internet. Specifically to attempts and accomplishments by you and those others behind the various blog sites and web site smears against me. You can try to make yourself greater than you are, as with the case of said "Al Davison, who was born with Spina Bifida" ... but as the image states.

He's such a fucking idiot. Holy crap, I can't remember speaking with anyone so dumb in my entire life. Yikes.

I've been over all this a million times, but what the hell.

First, Rick, the Mighty Mini Con was NOT the first con I ever attended. I attended a lovely show in Portland, and was a guest of Marvel at the San Diego Comic Con before I ever attended your event. If you'd like to say yours was the first incompetent, horribly run convention I attended, yes, that's a truthful statement. One paragraph in and you're not
doing too well on facts.

Really? Why have you made the 2003 Mighty Mincon, an event that treated you so kind and with as much free food as everyone else had available to them such a negative ploy over the last 7 years then?

Second, I never, EVER asked you to pay for my husband's airfare, everyone knows it. Never. I have proved it in email time and again, you brought up that idea, that you would pay his airfare, as a typical Olney stalling tactic. I never asked for it, not once. Prove it. Show a post or an email. I have posted your emails on this several times, and you have always went crying back home, unwilling to face your own words in black and white.

Not true. The truth of that matter has yet to be shared or divulged. I DO have the emails that we sent back and forth to each other and your side of the 'story' does not exactly match the facts of what you told me and asked me.


Second, again, the hundred dollars was YOUR idea, when you didn't pay the full amount owed. Another typical Olney stalling tactic, you've used it on many pros...you delay and delay payment, then, to FURTHER keep people waiting, you say you will pay them a 'bonus' for the trouble. Then of course, you never pay that either. YOU came up with the $100, you delayed paying it for two years with a series of bullshit "It's in the mail!" and "I have to get it from a special account!" excuses. Same exact trick you pulled on a dozen other pros you've cheated. I've posted those emails many times as well. We've all
seen them, everyone who has had any dealings with you whatsoever knows exactly what I'm talking about.

Not true. The truth is as it was at the 2003 Mighty Minicon and if people go unpaid it is because you have worked diligently to cause my reputation to fail in that regard, and me... I sat back and let you state things that were not true based on the emails and encouragement (and legal advice, I have to add) to IGNORE YOU and the usual suspects.

Well, you compounded that with your last August to November and ongoing attacks against Adirondathon, and I don't even own that company. But, again, on advise from people that I respect and admire as friends and 'partners' of a sort ... I held off saying much of anything. So yeah, read the truth and other side of a 'story' you made up and weep.

Paid Greg Horn or Mike Kaluta yet, Rick? You've been a deadbeat to them for all these years, and they signed no NDA and never talked about the MMC in public. Why haven't you paid THEM yet, deadbeat?

I have no desire to 'suck up' to Chuck Dixon. I barely know Chuck and haven't talked to him in a couple years. Keep trying, deadbeat. The truth is, you cheated Chuck, like you cheated every other pro who worked on the Tightlip books. And they all hate your guts.

Nice 'good reputation' you have there, Ricky.


A "good reputation" which you've worked hard at fostering, festering and picking at like a scab, "Gail"... be proud. You 'facts' are again, false. You stick your nose into matters which you think you've gathered all the facts on, and feeling superior (with your 'gang' behind you), you stress how 'crazy' I am. Laong with having others spam and warn off under threat of implied exposure to their working with Adirondathon, again, as you thought I owned that company... and you persuaded conracted guests to avoid and cancel with the Adirondack ComicFest last fall of 2011. Based on wha!?? Your hyped up lies about your 2003 Mighty Minicon performance. Comtrary to what you want to believe, images do not lie. Again, if you knew me, you'd know better.

And -- Horn, Kauta?

You caused them to be placed where they are with me. I have a record of what they are owed, and they've left it all to be a bitter memory thanks to you and your meddling. So be it. Does that mean that they can't be paid by me? No, certainly not! I am patient man (No pun intended). I have left them 'waiting' because YOU became involved in business matters that had nothing to do with you. You've stated from your professional corner of the Internet for along time. I never denied it. In fact, I did contact them both previously yeas back and attempted restitution for what I knew they were owed. Minimal sums that didn't even add up to the $100 dollars which you tried to bilk from ORCA via your claim to me back in 2003 and 2004, and then throughout your entire litany against me. If they became turned off by your nonsense and lies then that was what got them on a back burner. Should you ever correct your errors, then I'll make headway and correct the matters that weigh on your mind so much.

No, really I shall.

Moving on to a closing here...

Just a note to everyone... Notice that he's not mentioning Lucasfilm, Matt Busch and the maps Rick stole?

This whole thing is because he wants to avoid discussing that. It might be a good idea to focus on this issue and let Olney start yakking away and sink himself further.

Don't get your drawers in a wad. It is coming. Wouldn't miss updating the matter for the world, although I doubt you realize that, "Curiosity killed the cat and 'twas satisfaction brought it back."

Originally Posted by Mr. Sounds-Like-He's-Being-Honest
"I just popped my head up outta my hole "

Originally Posted by Bert
"BWAAAA-HAAAAA-HAAAAAA-HAAAAA"


Again, played right into it, Bert. Glad you got a chuckle though. And from "Gail Simone" we read:

Dude, I KNOW. I can't believe HE said that!

So childish a response from a grown woman.

I'm still thinking of shutting the thread down...truth is, I'm sick of the guy, and the odds of him being able to successfully cheat more creators is pretty low, with J.R. and Bleeding Cool and the Beat watching him. All the resources exist elsewhere, and if anyone else wants to host the thread, that's fine. But it really is like looking at a one-legged dog desperately trying to pretend he's not out of the race yet.

Pull yourself away from the mirror. Where those others are concerned or the blog harassing are concerned -- You own it all. You own them. You inform them, motivate them, and pretty much feed the idiocy. It all stems from you and your gang, "Gail".

I'll think about it, but it's Rick Olney we're talking about, he will never, ever do the right thing on this. Doesn't matter that those maps were supposed to help disabled vets, all that matters is him.

Wrong again. I have a disabled veterans group all picked out and aware of what and when they'll receive any money coming their way. Again, so poorly misinformed.

And when exactly was your day, Rick? The 1700s?? 'Allo Guv'nor! Pip Pip and all that wot! Look out, Rick! There are some trolls in red coats coming down the road from the cobbler's place!

I think that explains why his writing is so awful, in both his comics and his blegh. He's still using Olde Tymey English!

You're still a loser. But in case, you're closer to a truth than you shall ever know. You don't know everything, nor shall you ever.

I majored in English Lit, and had to take a mandatory 15 credits (i.e. 5 half-year courses) in Literature pre-1800. I assure you, from Caedmon's Hymn and Beowulf, through Spencer and Shakespeare, to Swift and Austen... that ain't ye merry olde English!

Exactly.

The main drawback that I see to closing the thread would be rICK's crowing that he's "gotten the haters shut down" or "scared the schlubs off the web", or... you get the idea -- because the idea Gail would voluntarily shut down a venue for (as *HE* sees it) self-promotion would be utterly unthinkable to him. The idea that he was no longer either dangerous enough nor entertaining enough to warrant following would go right past him, leaving him basting himself in self-congratulation and potentially convincing people coming late to the party that -- since "the Haterz ran away" -- there must have been nothing to their allegations and rICK must be okay, after all..

Which basically translates into, "But where we go to be a group with purpose in our lives??"

You're such a loser. Yes, a no life low life.

In Closing... Try The Cherry Cobbler!

It's so cute when Ricky tries to use words.

The imbecile says: "I am prone to using the descriptive word cobble. In my day, a person that cobbled was called a cobbler. Early on, a cobbler was someone that fixed shoes. Back in the 1950s and early 1960s, a cobbler was someone that tried to take an item or a situation and make it better."

Strangely enough, the American Heritage Dictionary disagrees with this assessment:

cob·ble 2 (kbl) tr.v. cob·bled, cob·bling, cob·bles 1. To make or mend (boots or shoes).
2. To put together clumsily; bungle: cobbled a plan together at the last minute.

It's perfectly appropriate that he should label his efforts "cobbling."


Try #2, you big dummy.


Okay, in all fairness, when I was growing up in Michigan, in my family we did use the word "cobble" to mean "pull together haphazard elements to make something." It was not particularly derogatory, but there definitely was a sense of catch-as-catch-can, making-do, and mix-and-match.

It is, however, not I term I would ever use to describe any serious creative endeavor, especially not something I intended to put out professionally.

Rick is obviously using it to make himself sound like he's an old hand at this creative process, that he knows the ins-and-outs. But the real effect of his usage is to belittle the craft of storytelling. He's so sure he can turn out a professional level of work by "cobbling together" his ideas and stories.

Pfffft!

Fairness? Perish the thought! A ploy or trap, something to "belittle the craft of storytelling" ... ummm, no.

Well, what a crap thing of him to do. He posted all that vague stuff about the model hoping to draw her out, and that she'd say he wasn't all that bad. Even though she told us herself back then where her story was. But in his snooping around of where she is now, she seems to have left modeling and is now into nursing. I think we should leave her alone -- he's obviously hoping we'll drag her back into this mess. But I see no reason to do that. Her own statements are documented elsewhere and that's enough of that.

Sure. Go for it. "Her own statements are documented elsewhere and that's enough of that."
And WHO Is being heartless?

But when I was looking at the blog, I didn't realize he'd added that comment about her personal losses! She lost a child in 2009, and he has the GALL to imply it might be "bad karma" because she spoke out against him? What a creep!

*Deep breath* ( Rick Note: Smelling your own shit has that affect on losers.)

He is REALLY trying to distract us from serious CURRENT issues. Such as -- He's a thief holding on to property illegally, and it's grand theft larceny, since their value easily exceeds $5,000.

Thanks for confirming that in print, but your views legally are poppycock. I'll also correct you in noting that she also lost her husband, I believe. A *new* low for me. Nope. I can prove that everything sent to me was done by her free will. No dates then or contractual obligations levied towards me obligated me in any such manner. Again, catch a clue. You do not know it all. You merely think you do. Read what Bert said and grow a pair instead of playing everything like drama. You'll hurt less people that way. Sad little shit spinning Drama Queen, you are, Sarah. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Distract you? Very laughable. You read here daily based on what I post that you all respond to on my blog talking about the very real answers to all the slam-jam bullshit you all perpetuated and threw-up into each others minds these last 7 years.

I hope to god anyone stupid enough to think you have an ounce of decency left reads that.

You would, "Gail Simone".


You are scum.

Just when I think you can't get any lower, you ALWAYS MANAGE TO DO SO.

Gives you something to shoot for, and well, taking lessons from you and yours has taught me a slow lesson or two. I can also add, as I have for a time now that you're not dealing with a well man. What is your excuse?

Honestly, guys...I think he's scared and alone.

Wrong again. Cool and calm here. Merely sharing what, under the laws presently that I am able to.


I think he knows no one gives a shit about him and if this thread closes, he'll fade right back into being a deadbeat nobody, which is what he's more afraid of than anything.

"Gail" -- You couldn't be more full of shit. And, no, I am not ranting. Simply stating fact responding to your, oh so civil dram here.

Holly, I hope to God you are not reading this and didn't read Rick's disgusting comments.

Well, it is because YOU, one of your trolls, or the usual suspects have spammed her and THAT, my dear Drama Queen, would be on you and your gang. Reconsult your attorney. Understand that what YOU have put in motion against me continually these last 7 years is now coming home to roost. Pack away your chick shit by cleaning it up, and that means all of it -- or face whatever is coming. Again, listening to WHOMEVER is legally advising you. And that does mean, the many other things placed in motion by your most infamous threads. HERE and on CBR. Don't worry, we'll clean up the Artful Angie crappola and the blogs aimed directly and illegally against me.


If you did, all our hearts go out to you. That man is evil. There's no other word for it.
What he says is meaningless because all he has is hatred of people who aren't as twisted
and repulsive as he is.

I am very sorry to hear of your tragic losses. It can't even be imagined what you have gone through.
I am so very, very sorry.

You're about as sincere as what generated it all in the first place, "Gail Simone". Shame on you!

I stress this is the same idiot who thought he magically made Colleen Doran's cat sick because she posted about deadbeats and he thought she meant him (she didn't).

Too gross to even find amusing anymore.

Doran's cat died from suicide. Have it dug up and autopsied. Or, spam her with email to let her know that her cat was mentioned.

I think I'm sick of him. I don't care if the thread continues elsewhere, but I think it's time to shut it down here.

"Gail" that may work for you but only if it gets rolled back to ALL the E-V-I-L spawned from your two message board forums, and the several harassing blogs that use my REAL name that work to your methods. Yeah, you can be sick of me... but you'll NEVER remove the STINK of what you've grown and fertilized from your OWN SHIT on your two massive threads. NEVER.
And from another troll hiding behind a phony screen name replied to with a deserving simple image:

See, the previous post about Rick's honesty. Rick, I call bullshit and challenge you to prove it. If you were the one who pulled Numbling & Tingling down and not Google then all you have to do to prove it is put it back up for 72 hours.

If you do that, I will publicly announce my real identity here in this blog, allowing you to finally see who has been the "thorn not in your side" for so long!

BUT! You have 24 hours from this post to put it back up for those three days. If it's not up by this time tomorrow night, I am calling you A LIAR and YOU WILL BE STATING FOR THE RECORD THAT YOU LIED AND GOOGLE REMOVED YOU!

Blogger time to restore my blogs removed has expired, but I'm sure that you knew that already. Nice try. Enjoy the image. It is sincere.

You mentioned accomplishments before, Ricky. Was your credit card being declined for hotels and airfare considered an accommplishment, Ricky? HAHAHAHA

Yeah, had YOU ever sponsored an event that size you'd know what it maens to pay responsible costs over houising a couple goofballs from Oregon that couldn't even afford their own hotel the night AFTER the one day event -- AFTER being given room accommodations the night before. It wasn't intended to be a sight seeing tour, was it? And you could have offered to put them up at your place, right? The RETURN AIRFARE wasn't part of the deal for Scott James, "Gail's" husband. HER ticket was already paid for and IN HER HANDS. Fucking loser. LOL

So, basically it boils down to Rick trying to call out someone who hasn't even said a single thing about Rick in years, just to see if she'll badmouth him too? He did it with Matt Busch. He did it with Michael Kellar. He did it with Don Krick. Is this his plan? Draw more people into his drama to speak out against him? What? Is he hoping that if he gets enough people to speak against him, he'll try to get those "state and federal laws against gangs" to get us shut down? I thought he was going to use those "anti-bullying" laws he was spouting about last year to show us who's boss?

To be truthful, I responded as I did to those that responded to me as they did. There ARE already legal precedents on the books in States on this, asshat. Additionally, you'd have to prove that my stress and medical circumstances were NOT at the crux of these 7 years worth of verbal assaults against me. Which, I believe would not hold up. I can't comment further on Kellar and his associations. Don Krick? Blowhard, gas bag, self inflated asshole. Dare I share another image? Nah, I'll wait. The party is just getting started.

Ask yourself though. A person willing to be 'creative' and face off against so many liars must certainly have another few surprises up his sleeve. Your own narcissistic natures prevent you from being led by Gail Simone, the lies, and by moi.

Anti-bullying laws? Your mere mention of them by introduction makes you a liability to the 'gang' you conduct yourself within. Again, keep glancing at that image above. And, drag your ass to stay real time on what has been taking place on THAT legal front across America, asshat.
Relax, it is later than you think.


So the old tired stuff gives way to this kind of meltdown? It's almost sad to beat him at his own game of words. It's like kicking a legless Nazi. Sure you feel good for fighting fascism, but he's so harmless is it a fair fight?

And now it is my time to laugh... BWAHAHAHAAaaaa!!! Thanks for introducing the word NAZI there as descriptive. It shows another legal precedent. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never referenced you or anyone else there that way. And you just tagged yourself another DRAMA QUEEN. So very rich, asshat.

Enjoy the cherry cobbler, losers. "

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 03:59 AM
I don't recommend reading the whole thing, it's like looking into the abyss, as written by a 12 year old girl with brain damage.

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 04:03 AM
I'm curious...Rick seems to ruin everything he ever starts. For those of you in the know, what exactly happened to Orca? Did he just get lazy and give up, or did he do his usual fighting with everyone for attention and credit, so that no one wanted to help out?

Orca itself has always seemed like a nifty idea, Rick's just the wrong person to run anything with actual human beings involved.

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 04:05 AM
Heh. I didn't read the middle bit before.

Oh, my god, NO! Not a LETTER WRITING CAMPAIGN!


Oh, horror!

Yawn.

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 04:16 AM
And is it any wonder why some of us (me included) feel Rick is capable and even willing to fake the severity of something we are told not to talk about here anymore. I thought it was pretty low ripping off friends and charities, but Olney always manages to sink to an ever lower level.

I still remember when Rick commissioned a friend of mine to draw some adult pics of female superheroes (The Thing peeking in on a naked Invisible Girl in the shower, naked Wonder Woman & Lara Croft, etc...) for a "friend" of his. My buddy drew them, and when he asked for the money before he would send them, got the runaround from Rick, and eventually months later had to put them up on eBay to get the money. Funny how this so-called "friend" acted just like Rick, in never wanting to pay for something he asked for. And also funny was how this "friend" never contacted my pal personally. It was always thru Rick they communicated. No name was ever mentioned of this "friend" either.

Rick is and always will be a lying, thieving, disgusting excuse of a creature.



How many stories like that have we run across since we started comparing notes on the deadbeat?

It's endless.

How can someone CHOOSE to live their life that way?

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 04:28 AM
You know, I've given this a moment's thought, and aside from his obvious loneliness and desperate need for attention...

...it seems to me that he needs us, he needs an excuse for all his shitty behavior, his tantrums, his deadbeatism, and all his many, many failures.

Right?

I mean, in his latest rant, he blames us for why he cheated Greg Horn and Mike Kaluta.

Now, neither one of those guys ever posted here, or signed an NDA, or went public that Rick had cheated them, not once.
Yet, of course, he never paid them because he's a massive deadbeat.

He didn't have the excuses he used to cheat everyone else. He couldn't blame a fake NDA. He couldn't blame them going
public or insulting him. So that leaves the truth, that he's just a serial deadbeat who cheats every pro he possibly can.

They never did ANY of the stuff he always uses as an excuse not to pay someone.

So, being Rick, it can never be his fault, it can never be that he's a massive deadbeat who loves cheating people. It HAS
to be the victim's fault, somehow.

So he uses us as his excuse to cheat two very nice, talented guys who only tried to do him a favor by appearing as his
shitty, amateur hour, fake 'convention.'

We brought it up, you see. Years after the event, we brought up the fact that he had cheated them despite them
never mentioning it in public. So we become the excuse for not paying them to attend a convention.

First, that's screwed up...who cheats a pro at a convention because of something someone ELSE said? But second,
we're his last excuse, the last in a pitiful line of 'the check's in the mail!' type bullshit that Rick breathes out like
his own bad breath.

Without this thread, he'll just be a deadbeat again, no excuses.

Of COURSE he's terrified we'll shut it down.

Artful Angie
01-27-2012, 04:36 AM
I don't even know if I have it in me to respond to any of his latest BS. He's such a scared old man afraid that the one and only thing that he gets fame and attention for is going to be taken away. Because he's failed at everything else in his life. Marine. Husband. Father. Son. Club Organizer. Convention Organizer. None of these gave him the attention he so desperately is craving for, which is why he failed them all.

I will point out this: He is still within the Blogger-allowed time frame, so his claim that he can't re-open his Tingling NumbNuts blegh is exactly what we all knew it was: BULLSHIT.

You have to give him his props for trying to make people blink with his lame threats to take people to court or have them charged with... I don't know, exactly. Opinion, With Intent? The truth is that Rick is afraid to show up in a court of law, because then he'd have to face the one opponent he's never been able to face: His own character. Or lack thereof. "But Your Honor! They said bad things about me! That's why I kept all the money, never paid anyone for any bills I owed ever, put photos of feces on my blog, made rude comments about people's dead family members, and felt I was owed every map, collectible and comic I was ever "given"! They weren't scams! They were my fee!"


And his solution to "Gail's" long running "campaign" against him (On a board he even admits is owned by someone else, so if that person had a problem with it why hasn't he shut it down?) in this Internet age is to start a letter writing campaign????

And Rick: "Cat-out-of-the-bag" is spelled "cat out of the bag". What the heck are the hyphens for?

But I wouldn't worry about that campaign, Gail. According to Rick's own experiences he lives in the worst-run Post Office zone in the modern world. They don't mail things, they don't deliver things, and every Cease And Desist letter or check he's mailed has been lost in their cartoon-like piles of undelivered mail. I think his mailman may be Willie Lumpkin. Or a cartoon dog.

It really is sad that he's never gotten the help he truly needs. I know it's not the subject we're supposed to discuss, but is it possible based on his latest blogs and the obvious degeneration of his mental faculties that it might be affecting his brain? Because the last two posts really don't look to me like they're coming from a sane normal man. He's made increasingly insensitive blog posts, he's making paranoid claims about property damages and vicious slander attacks, and now he's reaching back years to make personal attacks against somebody who hasn't been involved in anything against him in who knows how long. I have to say, it makes me wonder, that's all.

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 04:44 AM
"But I wouldn't worry about that campaign, Gail. According to Rick's own experiences he lives in the worst-run Post Office zone in the modern world. They don't mail things, they don't deliver things, and every Cease And Desist letter or check he's mailed has been lost in their cartoon-like piles of undelivered mail. I think his mailman may be Willie Lumpkin. Or a cartoon dog."

Okay, that made me laugh. Yes, the same post office that magically lost all those checks Rick PROMISES TOTALLY, GUYS, that he sent...heh.

Yeah, truthfully, this latest meltdown, wow. It really is like watching someone push themselves off a cliff.

Another good reason to shut this thread down.

HamsterRage
01-27-2012, 04:59 AM
I'm all for closing it until he latest scams reaches a conclusion or get covered.

Notice once again he's avoiding talking about the maps?

AIPman1
01-27-2012, 05:01 AM
I don't really want to influence whether this thread is shut down or not, but I would be amiss if I didn't take a chance to say it was good to meet everyone I have, here. Rick Olney will find ways to do what he does, whether this thread is here or not. He'll never sue anyone, there are enough people with enough evidence of Olney lying and planning to hide assets and his contempt for judgments against him, and his general behavior, that any lawsuit he ever brought, would then be tossed out the second any of that evidence was brought up. The TRUTH always trumps opinion. So if it is shut down, I hope to see many of you at shows in the future and such, I hope if any of you have anything you wish to send me a news release about or a review copy of for the new Self Publisher! Magazine website, you will. Whether this place is open for constant banter or we all just keep our eyes open on our own - I thank god for Gail having had the balls to ask...Rick Olney: Fibber or mega giganta fibber?

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 05:11 AM
Ian, I feel the same way about meeting all of the people who have posted here. I feel bad for anyone who ever crossed paths with Rick, of course, but I'm glad we saw so many connections and friendships made, and it proves a point that it's always better to speak up about a deadbeat than to just stay silent. At the very least, we know a lot of people were informed of Rick's history BY THE VERY PEOPLE HE CHEATED. If that had happened sooner, then many of the people he cheated would never have had anything to do with him at all.

I'll talk with the mods and think of a proper time, but I really do think it's time to close it down. Everyone is still welcome on the board, we'd love to have you all. We'll give everyone time to talk and sum up and all that stuff.

HamsterRage
01-27-2012, 05:17 AM
Rick's lack of understanding how the Internet works continues to be hilarious as the google results about him get worse and worse. Especially if you do an image search.

But like I said the issue of the stolen maps is what we should talk about. He certainly doesn't want us to.

Gail, I'm pretty sure he's going nuts because Lucasfilm has their lightsabers pointed at him.

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 05:22 AM
Rick's lack of understanding how the Internet works continues to be hilarious as the google results about him get worse and worse. Especially if you do an image search.

But like I said the issue of the stolen maps is what we should talk about. He certainly doesn't want us to.

Gail, I'm pretty sure he's going nuts because Lucasfilm has their lightsabers pointed at him.


I think it's pretty specifically about this thread, personally.

We mention shutting it down, he pees his pants repeatedly and starts flinging stuff like the dumbest chimp in a crooked monkey house.

He's afraid of the lack of attention, and he won't have any excuses for his lifetime of failures.

Artful Angie
01-27-2012, 05:28 AM
I would almost say, as much as it would please Rick to see this thread close, that we don't do it until the maps are returned. Better to go out on a victory like that then just walk away because Rick managed to out-scum us.

As for your question about ORCA, Gail. (Or is it "Gail"? :-P ) Basically, the story is Rick tried his best to make the club self-destruct. He tried to rule it with his overblown ego and caused all sorts of infighting with his BS and insults to the point where everyone just felt better off walking away. Sound familiar?

Artful Angie
01-27-2012, 05:31 AM
Oh, and Gail, please send me a Private Message. There's something I've been wanting to tell you, but don't want little Wicky to know until it's been officially announced. Heh Heh

Outsider
01-27-2012, 05:45 AM
Here are screengrabs of everything since my last post. I just did the last two this morning; I hope nothing was edited there in the meantime.

http://imgur.com/a/8QGJj

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 06:09 AM
Thanks, Outsider, it's VERY much appreciated! This is certainly a meltdown for the record books. I wonder if he actually thinks yelling and spitting and pulling out your hair makes your lies more credible?

And funny how, in all these years, he's never once produced any of this evidence he keeps talking about. I have shown his emails time and time again. Others who were there back up every statement I've
made. But the idiot still, eight years later, is pretending to have evidence, even though he's changed his story a dozen times.

I won't miss him at all. :)

And Angie, your news is awesome. It's amazing.

bert
01-27-2012, 06:19 AM
anyone have a clue what he's talking here:


Clear to me that Bert can't read. Dummy. I never cared that you were gay. Really. Your gay nature is yours, mister. You own it.





Did I sleep type something, and don't recall it?

or is he mixing me up with LeftWingNutcase?


really. . where is the "gay nature" thing coming from here?

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 06:30 AM
anyone have a clue what he's talking here:





Did I sleep type something, and don't recall it?

or is he mixing me up with LeftWingNutcase?


really. . where is the "gay nature" thing coming from here?


I think what he's saying here, bert, is...


"I am admitted homophobe who is a goddamned moron who constantly belittles and insults gay people despite being a massive fuckup deadbeat and also I can't remember what it is I am writing about."

Kal El
01-27-2012, 06:31 AM
I like how he used the "I have gay friends!" excuse.

Artful Angie
01-27-2012, 08:54 AM
Thanks, Outsider, it's VERY much appreciated! This is certainly a meltdown for the record books. I wonder if he actually thinks yelling and spitting and pulling out your hair makes your lies more credible?

And funny how, in all these years, he's never once produced any of this evidence he keeps talking about. I have shown his emails time and time again. Others who were there back up every statement I've
made. But the idiot still, eight years later, is pretending to have evidence, even though he's changed his story a dozen times.

I won't miss him at all. :)

And Angie, your news is awesome. It's amazing.

But he declares he has facts and figures, Gail! Rick would never lie to anybody!

****BOOM!!****

Oops, sorry. I even blew out the gauges on my own Sarcasm Detector. Hope I didn't wreck anybody else's too badly.

And thanks, Gail. I'm glad you like the news. I think it'll be a shot in the arm for a lot of people. Except for Rick, whom it'll shoot in some other body part. Heh Heh.

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 10:07 AM
It's also kind of amusing that he starts every one of his crazy meltdowns with how much he doesn't read this thread and how none of it affects him, right before going on a twelve page loony party.

HamsterRage
01-27-2012, 10:23 AM
Maybe Rick should start an iPetition against us?

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/01/27/will-sign-petition-for-rob-granito-come-back-comic-cons/

Also I wonder what he'll say about the maps he's stolen?

SarahBeach
01-27-2012, 10:50 AM
Yeah, I think he's really afraid of losing his spotlight if we turn it off.

I sort of expected this meltdown. Yesterday, in his post about the model, he was trying so hard to couch it in "I'm reasonable" terms - which I think was aimed at his pair of nice-lady Facebook friends (who do seem amiable, if a bit naive -about Rick at least), going one step further to try and convince them that he's really okay. But under his "reasonable" voice, there was just a load of creepiness - saying he wasn't going to drag her away from the new life she'd made for herself, and yet really hoping to do so, capped by the references to her losses and implying she deserved them.

By the way, Rick, since you are reading this... you're calling me heartless for saying we shouldn't bother her? For choosing to reference only one of her losses instead of both? A little education, twit, I thought it was horrible enough that she lost her son to suicide; should I magnify it by pointing out that a mere few months after that she lost her husband? Nobody deserves that. Kudos to her for enduring it and reshaping her life after that.

What I do find amusing in that long tirade is that he has just gotten lamer in his veiled legal threats. Over the years, as we've educated ourselves on the issues like contracts and copyrights, even seeking information from real lawyers, his ability to sound Big and Scarey with "There will be legal action about this!" has dwindled. And now we're getting "Letter writing campaigns!" Yeah, you know what? Not frightening. And if I do receive such, I actually am capable of being gracious.

Side note: just got an email from a writer friend today, who let me know she'd been speaking at a writers conference in her area, and she'd recommended my book to her audience! That was a nice thing to get out of the blue on what is a bit of a challenging day for me.

Anyway, my last observation on his little rant -- he keeps trotting out the "You've never run a convention this size!" chestnut. Well, excuse me, but I have. Twice. Admittedly, Mythcon has a small target attendence -- generally around 150 to 200, but it's a specialty literary conference. We have two primary guests of honor, an author (usually, though we've had artists -- like Tolkien artist, Ted Nasmith) and a scholar. We pay for their transportation to and from the conference to their home, we entirely cover their room and board (and often spouses & family). The dealers room tends to be small, but still has to be arranged. And then there's the incredible amount of time spent planning the program. It's a conference that runs from noon Friday to noon Monday, and MOST of the day hours have multiple tracks of programming (papers and panels). Plus arranging evening entertainments for Saturday and Sunday nights, AND making arrangements for the Sunday night banquet. It is a lot of planning, and it means making sure all the finances are on track because venues are definitely not interested in hearing "Oh, I'll have the money in a week!" But if anyone is interested in a witness as to whether I understand everything about making such an event come off well, ask James Owen. He was our Guest of Honor when I ran the conference in 2009 (and we had his whole family as well, which meant making sure child care was available to them too!).

Rick's whining about the difficulties of his little one day con and all the stuff he had to juggle -- I'm not impressed. I know exactly what is needed to run a good convention, and everything he whines about are his own fault, things he could have and should have planned for, but obviously did not do. So, Rick: shut up already about it. You did a poor job, you shirked paying for as much as you should have paid for, and any good time people had there was good time they made themselves, not because you made it happen. That's the reality, buddy. Live with it.

MacQuarrie
01-27-2012, 12:33 PM
I agree it's time to close the thread. Our bipolar nutjob is losing his entertainment value quickly. We have some alternative ways to keep the heat on him while denying him the thrill of knowing peoplke are talking about him.

For instance, we could easily set up a page elsewhere, like say on the UNSCREWED site (I love that he still gets the URL wrong) or one of the many Olney Watch sites that have recently appeared, where somebody could update factual information as events warrant. It would lack the free-for-all atmosphere of a forum, which eliminates a lot of our fun, but that would also serve to eliminate Olney's rush from seeing people talk about him.

Gail Simone
01-27-2012, 12:50 PM
It's true, I haven't run a convention. But I've been to dozens, and the Mighty Mini Con was the ONLY failure I have attended. Failure in promotion, execution, organization, attendance, creativity, everything.

The flub ups and dumb mistakes are already legendary, no need to go over them again for the umpteenth time. I'm sure running a con is very, very hard. That's why you need people who are intelligent, honest,
experienced, and creative to do it.

Which is where Rick failed, zero for four.

Tony Isabella
01-27-2012, 01:07 PM
I like Mac's notion of closing down this thread and setting up a page for new information. To keep it from getting off topic and away from the facts - and we all know the facts about the Vile One are damning enough - I'd further suggest all posts be approved by a moderator before being published. Let Olney wallow in his solitude, friendless and talentless. It's what he deserves for being utterly without even the most basic sense of decency.

For the record, I still haven't been sued by his imaginary lawyers.

And, also for the record, I will always be ready to act on creditable action that he's trying to scam people again. I have many venues available to me. I have helped shut down his schemes before. I stand ready to do so again.

leftwingnutcase
01-27-2012, 01:17 PM
And Angie, your news is awesome. It's amazing.

So Gail, I take it you know?

Angie, contact me to make plans for Ithacon!

leftwingnutcase
01-27-2012, 01:24 PM
I like Mac's notion of closing down this thread and setting up a page for new information. To keep it from getting off topic and away from the facts - and we all know the facts about the Vile One are damning enough - I'd further suggest all posts be approved by a moderator before being published. Let Olney wallow in his solitude, friendless and talentless. It's what he deserves for being utterly without even the most basic sense of decency.

For the record, I still haven't been sued by his imaginary lawyers.

And, also for the record, I will always be ready to act on creditable action that he's trying to scam people again. I have many venues available to me. I have helped shut down his schemes before. I stand ready to do so again.

I would HIGHLY, HIGHLY recommend updating the Olney Thread Index (http://www.unscrewedcomic.com/content.php?page=olney_thread_index) and perhaps make it a general timeline of his misdeeds.

Deegan
01-27-2012, 01:52 PM
It's been a fun thread (as long as you weren't the one being ripped off)! But yeah, closing it down for now would probably be for the best.

Matt Doc Martin
01-27-2012, 02:33 PM
Maybe Rick should start an iPetition against us?

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/01/27/will-sign-petition-for-rob-granito-come-back-comic-cons/

Also I wonder what he'll say about the maps he's stolen?

What will he say about the maps? Same shit he has always said. And with as much actual meaning behind it. The man is a thief, liar, and has dishonored himself and his past service. His attacks on a poor woman have shown that, even if everything else he has done over the years has not.


I agree it's time to close the thread. Our bipolar nutjob is losing his entertainment value quickly. We have some alternative ways to keep the heat on him while denying him the thrill of knowing peoplke are talking about him.

For instance, we could easily set up a page elsewhere, like say on the UNSCREWED site (I love that he still gets the URL wrong) or one of the many Olney Watch sites that have recently appeared, where somebody could update factual information as events warrant. It would lack the free-for-all atmosphere of a forum, which eliminates a lot of our fun, but that would also serve to eliminate Olney's rush from seeing people talk about him.


I support this, and giving mods , or you, Tom, Hamster the rights to update the thread as warranted with new, useful info.

Frankly, I have run out of ways to insult this sad pig of a "man".

And to be honest, I worry that the more unhinged pRick Olney shows himself to be, the more likely he will act out against someone given the chance.

The internet bears witness to his idiocy and thievery. He states that this CURRENT page will stay up FOREVER. Really? Like all your other efforts?

Go away pRick.

HamsterRage
01-27-2012, 02:38 PM
Personally I think closing the thread condemns Rick to having to live inside his own head for a while and that's probably the biggest bit of torture we can provide to him.

As my last act of compassion to Rick:
http://www.outofthedarkness.org/
http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
http://lifecounsel.org/pub_floyd_understandingNarcissism.html

You need help Rick. Serious help.

You're a pariah and you need to reach out for help and end this cycle. You can make Google forget you if you do the right thing and start returning the maps you stole and then start paying back all the people you cheated.

JTPencils
01-27-2012, 03:26 PM
GASP! JT! Did you do something that Rick Olney is declaring was unethical and wronged him in some way?? And if so, what is your address so I can send a muffin basket?


Nah, he's just declaring that I told the truth... and I've got people that were involved at the time that can (and would) back up my statement. I spotted his BS early on, and got out before the damage was too deeply inflicted. Sadly, Cesar (a MUCH more trusting soul then I)... stuck with him, and got repeatedly hurt... which I wish I could have done something about. I've known Cesar for nearly 25 years now... he was the best man at my second marriage (Thanks C-man)... and is a soul that you just enjoy having in your life. I saw the BS... Cesar just couldn't see it soon enough.

And witless... you're not intelligent enough to create a decent pun... so not to worry about your "no pun intended" comment. Maybe instead you should just write "No coherent thought intended"... that would make a great pun (as well as being ironically correct!).

As to the designs themselves... let's just say... we'll see what happens with them. That's all I can say at the moment.

Angie... Muffins are great... but I'm trying to watch the diabetes here... perhaps some multi grain bagels instead?

As for closing this thread down... it certainly would drive him bonkers that the only people who discuss him at all... have shut down his only "PR" machine (even if the PR is horrible...). A "watcher" effect type of timeline at Unscrewed might be a good idea. Just because we don't chat about him, doesn't mean we should ignore him completely. Doing so would allow him to start up his conniving ways again. Ever vigilant!

If this thread does close... I shall miss seeing many of you and your comments. I don't delve into too many other areas here at this board... but I'd still gladly chat with any one of you.

Matt Doc Martin
01-27-2012, 03:47 PM
Personally I think closing the thread condemns Rick to having to live inside his own head for a while and that's probably the biggest bit of torture we can provide to him.

As my last act of compassion to Rick:
http://www.outofthedarkness.org/
http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
http://lifecounsel.org/pub_floyd_understandingNarcissism.html

You need help Rick. Serious help.

You're a pariah and you need to reach out for help and end this cycle. You can make Google forget you if you do the right thing and start returning the maps you stole and then start paying back all the people you cheated.


Hamster...this is a great gesture.

HamsterRage
01-27-2012, 05:32 PM
Olney's updated the blog... he's claiming he's going to have an update on the Matt Busch and maps Rick stole from Lucasfilm.

I doubt he'll say anything real... my bet is he's going to try and claim yet again that he's received nothing from Lucasfilm.

You need help Rick... you need to stop this insanity before things get worse.

Artful Angie
01-27-2012, 06:30 PM
For the thread closing, it's like Denis Leary said years ago. Rick started by yelling at everybody in and around ORCA who'd listen. Then it was everybody around his Mighty Crappy Con. Then it was everybody around this thread. Slowly he whittles down everybody until the only one who'll listen to him scream at them is the poor loser in his mirror.


And ORCA, via its membership, the members knew we had done a good thing. They were appreciative. And so was the retail vender that sold a VG copy of DARDEVIL #1 from his table that day. Koop never complained. His sales were good enough to make him commit to coming back from Virginia. I have a feeling that he'd come back today; that is what real friends do for each other.

Well, thank goodness for Crappy Con! Otherwise that VG copy of DAREDEVIL #1 might never had been sold! Whew! Guess that vender really dodged a bullet having that albatross around his neck! Good thing it was a grand alignment of the stars that the ONE person in the whole world who would have bought that very comic just happened to be at HCCC that day!

And thank goodness Koop agreed to spend another day down the road at his job of going around the country selling comic books! Whatever would he have done with that whole weekend in the future if he hadn't?!?

And please forgive me, folks. But I have to make this abundantly clear to Rick.

Rick, you say I don't know the pressures because I haven't run a successful con??

What a coincidence. Because

NEITHER

HAVE

YOU!!!

LeftWing, I'll send you a IM about Ithaca. Matt is coming too, so it'll be the three of us. Possibly four if Geoff can manage to get out there that day. Don can't make it due to personal commitments, but he and I are having lunch on Tuesday, and I'll be explaining that news to him in detail. Heh heh.

Gail, your inbox got full and I had to break up my really long letter to you into three parts. Let me know when you read the first two and I'll send you the last bit. LOL

Gail Simone
01-28-2012, 05:20 AM
Weird how much bullshit he's slinging...is he really trying to pretend it was a successful con? What about all the emails and whining about how he couldn't pay anyone because it was such a massive flop?

And 'expanded breakfast?' He said in his own WORDS that it was just muffins and coffee, and not a one of the guests I've spoken with even saw that. IF he had such a thing, and no one knew about it, well,
that's more Olney organization skills in action.

As for a '25 dollar lunch,' that's a joke. The only place to get lunch was the downstairs cafeteria, which, I'm sorry, was absolutely gross, exactly what you'd expect from a tiny college on the weekend. They
had small town cafeteria fare. I sat with Tom Peyer, and Stuart Moore, and the meals cost almost nothing AND he stiffed the venue on the bill. Nice planning there, dipshit. I am not blaming the college, they were
very nice people, and like everyone else, they regret ever meeting Rick and he is not welcome there anymore.

And he absolutely did NOT leave us to go help anyone else. He may have done those things, but he would have done them before talking to us. We were waiting there because, holy shit, WE WERE IN HERKIMER AND
HE WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE US TO A HOTEL LIKE ANY CONVENTION ORGANIZER IN HISTORY. But once he started talking about himself, he went for TWO SOLID HOURS talking about himself and how great he was
and his amazing deep connection with Stan Lee (who, I spoke to a few months ago and who has absolutely no recollection of Rick or Orca). TWO HOURS. And we sat and watched in surprise as everyone else did
every single scrap of work to get the convention folded up and put away. My husband helped one dealer, I remember, who was struggling for some reason, and I saw a couple other pros helping people tear down,
all while Rick ran his gums (if you've met him, you've experienced this), about all his adventures and his super-close ultra-pal friendships with professionals.

I couldn't quite get it...I didn't know what he wanted me to say. You have spoken with some pro? You met some guy once at a con?

Uh...great?

Weirdest two hours I've ever had at a convention. I know a big part of it was just Rick being Rick, the world's biggest and neediest blowhard, that
CONSTANT need for validation and attention. But we immediately realized he also just didn't want to do any of the work, which had been the
situation the whole con through. As I've said many times, hubby and I carried long boxes because we thought Rick was going to have a heart
attack carrying one box up a slight incline. No big deal, we were happy to pitch in. But there was a definite feeling that Rick did the whole con
for attention. Whenever something didn't work, like the costume contest, and it became clear he wouldn't get praise for it, he just immediately
lost interest, which is why he treated those two poor girls who showed up for the contest so shabbily.

He always managed to be somewhere else when there was a check to be written or work to be done. He just wanted the praise, wanted to be
the big wheel.

At the time, I thought it was sad, now, I know it's just Rick being Rick.

Gail Simone
01-28-2012, 05:31 AM
Also...

Does anyone in the universe NOT know that the con is SUPPOSED to take care of the guests they invite? Is Rick really trying to grab credit for fucking up something every other con manages to do,
simply because it's part of how cons work? Rick, what you did was a shitty version of what GOOD cons do well, every time they invite a guest.

WE couldn't afford a hotel room? Are you mental? WE certainly COULD afford a hotel room, it was your card that was declined, and it was MYSELF who paid for my ticket and my husband's ticket,
because you lied about that for months and delayed paying for months more (the check's in the mail! I have to get the money from a special account! etc. etc.).
But we were YOUR GUESTS, idiot. It was YOUR responsibility to get the rooms. I've never even HEARD of a convention that fucked that up so badly, did such poor organization on such a basic
function of convention planning. Nope, just the Olney-run event!

His last two meltdowns were pretty gross, but now he's just back in standard bullshit mode.
Unlike Rick, most of the pros at that con are still friends of mine, and not a one of them has a good thing to say about the Mighty Mini Con. What more needs to be said than that?
Doesn't matter if Rick got to pretend to be someone for a day, the guests had a bad experience (except seeing each other and the few fans who showed up), the convention hall
won't have Rick back and got stiffed, the vendors hate his guts, and no one showed up. There is no definition for that other than a hopeless flop.

And that was his convention moment of glory.

I can only imagine what his pretend camping/waterslides 'convention' was like.

Gail Simone
01-28-2012, 05:38 AM
I wonder where he got the idea that I was 'thrown off' of CBR.

Dear Rick, those threads are still there. Any idiot, meaning you, can look and see that I left. I didn't like it there any longer, Brian had offered me a board for a long time, and I moved.

Big deal. I am still friends with the people who run CBR, still talk to them at every con we both attend. I still post there regularly.

Unlike you, I don't get kicked off of every message board because I begged for too much attention or started screaming at people because they forgot my birthday, poor widdle baby!

;)

Artful Angie
01-28-2012, 08:01 AM
I noticed he's commented how he was taking a "well-deserved break from Facebook". Or is it a "requested by Facebook" break from Facebook. I just always found it funny that a man who claimed to have 600 people show up at Crappy Con and 1,800 members
in his ORCA group can't seem to manage getting into triple digits on his Friends List at Facebook?

Maybe I should finally break down and make a Facebook page. In fact, *DING!* there ya go! Take a look on Facebook for "Artful Angie" and add me as a friend! And you'll find a very interesting Facebook group when you go there. Be a dear and send me a frend request and a request to join the group.

Feel free to stop by and take a look, Rick. I'm sure I'll be getting a message from Facebook anytime today when you "Report Abuse". But as the group page says, it's not a place to smear Rick, lie about him or insult him with personal opinions. It's a place to tell the TRUTH ABOUT YOU, RICK.

bert
01-28-2012, 09:15 AM
Wish I could meet ya Angie, and congrats on whatever that secret is :)

Artful Angie
01-28-2012, 09:16 AM
I figure if we doe this thread, we might as well put the information and our experiences someplace where it will get the most exposure, while at the same time we limit ourselves to just the facts about Rick.

And by keeping it within the limits of Facebook's terms of service and good taste, Rick can't make the claim that it's a slanderous attack on him for personal reasons. And that no one person is deciding what is considered fair to say. So no more of Rick's "Gail is letting them spread lies on her website!!" nonsense. It has to be scaled back, and I think we all agree it should be. So let's make it impartial and (this one's for you, Ricky!) fair and balanced. But that means Rick can go trolling for victims on Facebook and say whatever he feels like about his victims.

Currently on the group page are three things:

The link for the letter warning about Rick (based all in fact)

The judgement against Rick by Scott Reed (fact)

The against Rick by James Tournas (fact)

And as a bonus to fairness, I even put a link to Rick's latest crazy man blog. So he can't say we aren't letting him "shed light" on the truth.

After all if "Rob Granito Is A Fraud" is a Facebook page why can there be a page for Rick as long as it's handled properly and respectful to Facebook and the truth?

leftwingnutcase
01-28-2012, 09:41 AM
I figure if we doe this thread, we might as well put the information and our experiences someplace where it will get the most exposure, while at the same time we limit ourselves to just the facts about Rick.

And by keeping it within the limits of Facebook's terms of service and good taste, Rick can't make the claim that it's a slanderous attack on him for personal reasons. And that no one person is deciding what is considered fair to say. So no more of Rick's "Gail is letting them spread lies on her website!!" nonsense. It has to be scaled back, and I think we all agree it should be. So let's make it impartial and (this one's for you, Ricky!) fair and balanced. But that means Rick can go trolling for victims on Facebook and say whatever he feels like about his victims.

Currently on the group page are three things:

The link for the letter warning about Rick (based all in fact)

The judgement against Rick by Scott Reed (fact)

The against Rick by James Tournas (fact)

And as a bonus to fairness, I even put a link to Rick's latest crazy man blog. So he can't say we aren't letting him "shed light" on the truth.

After all if "Rob Granito Is A Fraud" is a Facebook page why can there be a page for Rick as long as it's handled properly and respectful to Facebook and the truth?

Hi Everyone!

I have asked Angie to make me a co-admin on the page. The reason is twofold. First, I would like to add some of my own content. But more importantly, I want to make sure Angie stays impartial.

Regards,

Left

Artful Angie
01-28-2012, 09:55 AM
And he's been made one. I'm not worried about the impartiality though. Facebook has got some pretty good safeguards against messages or content that promote hate or violence.

And it's not going to be anything like some of the content of this thread has been. I just want to use only established facts on the FB page. No calling him names. No insults or challenges. I want it all above board so there's no appearance of impropriety. It's about making sure people who have never heard of Rick and want to know the facts just see the facts. Not all the venting and frustration we've all shared with each other here.

If someone who wanted to know about Rick's past were to look at this thread, obviously they'd kind of take a step back after reading some of the things we've said. I don't want that on the Facebook page, please. I want an impartial undistorted view of the truth there. Let Rick's own words sway anybody when it comes to personal attacks and insults. That's why I added the link to his blegh. They come to us and we say "Rick claims his group had 1,800 members. There is no proof to this claim known at this time". There's a link to his side of things, where Rick has the option to A) Provide that proof or B) foam at the mouth and rant like the idiot he comes across as.

Pragmatism is the key now on the FB page. Stepping back from our personal feelings and displaying just the facts. Agreed?

scs
01-28-2012, 10:00 AM
IMHO this thread is ready to be closed. Some of the participants here are making themselves look bad - not by telling any lies about Olney, but by their almost obsessive behavior. The facts are out there, and they're far more influential than the rants here. Let Olney stew in his own juices.

Artful Angie
01-28-2012, 10:19 AM
I agree, scs. But after talking to some people, the best place to store the facts and walk away isn't this thread. Rick has gotten most of his latest potential victims by using Facebook. Where do most people go when they want to know about someone? Facebook. So we put the facts there and let them be viewed as that.

I don't think the FB page should be a continuation of this thread. Not by any means, because you're right: the bahavior of a lot of people (myself included in that) has possibly done as much harm as good here. I don't expect the FB page to be an ongoing thing where people comment on it and camp out every day waiting to spring on the next nugget of BS to escape from Rick's mouth.

I haven't had the chance to discuss it with LeftWing yet, but if things get updated on the FB page once a month that'll be fine with me. Gail's right. Rick's whole ego lives off of this thread and our daily comments about him. We shut this thread down, filter out the personal stuff from the facts, take those facts and put them on Facebook where the whole world has access to them, and get on with more important stuff in our lives than the rantings and ravings of Rick Olney. If he does or says something that Alec and I feel people should know about, we'll post on the page and Facebook will do the work for us of letting the group members know. If we go too far with what gets said there, as I and some of us here are guilty of, then Facebook will shut us down. It's just that simple.

We move on, Rick is forgotten about on a daily basis, but there a very real spot that cannot escape notice on practically the most used website on Earth. And Rick can't start ranting at the pigeons who poop on his sidewalk and the deluded loser in the mirror. They'll be the only ones who'll listen to him anymore. Let him say what he says on his blegh if it makes him think he's a man. But he'll be bragging in an empty room.

Tony Isabella
01-28-2012, 02:38 PM
Something needs to stop and right now. Whoever has started the Olney stuff on Facebook has a) posted on my wall without permission and b) added me to his group without asking me if I wanted to be there.

Good intentions or not, those are my decisions to make. Stop it.

Yes, I still think Olney is one of the most vile people I've ever encountered in my 40 years as a comics professional. That hasn't changed. But I'll determine how and when I want to warn people about him...and, if Olney should decide to start trying to cheat and scam people again, I'll address that as I choose in the venues I choose.

leftwingnutcase
01-28-2012, 03:02 PM
I apologize, Tony. That is how Facebook groups work these days. Anybody can add anybody. With that FACT in mind, I did not expect you to take my adding you as a horrific INSULT. I knew you may not appreciate it, as that is always possible with this new Facebook group format. So I thought if you didn't like it, you would just remove yourself. It was not meant as something I mandated you to be a part of, and I certainly meant you no ill will. I am very sorry.

Matt Doc Martin
01-28-2012, 03:03 PM
REDACTED

I would like to join, though. Sent request already.

leftwingnutcase
01-28-2012, 03:08 PM
REDACTED

I would like to join, though. Sent request already.

Matt, there are two pages. The one at http://www.facebook.com/groups/115753711880403/ is the better, more traditional one. Although I'm not a co-moderator of that one yet, Angie has promised to do so next time he logs in.

Matt Doc Martin
01-28-2012, 03:10 PM
That is the one I have requested to join. But invite me to whatever.

leftwingnutcase
01-28-2012, 03:13 PM
That is the one I have requested to join. But invite me to whatever.

I can't, because I am not an admin of that one, yet. I can only invite my FB friends.

OMAR
01-28-2012, 03:18 PM
Gail's right. Rick's whole ego lives off of this thread and our daily comments about him. We shut this thread down, filter out the personal stuff from the facts, take those facts and put them on Facebook where the whole world has access to them, and get on with more important stuff in our lives than the rantings and ravings of Rick Olney.

07-20-2008: (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=7218311&postcount=42314)


He knows you're watching... and despite his righteous indignation, I'm pretty sure he's lovin' every minute of it. All of it; even the police reports and the lawsuits. He's got nothing, no education to speak of, no money, no power to affect anything in this world but somehow he's created all this... I don't doubt that he cheated folks out of a few grand, wasted people's time, libeled them. By most accounts, he even smells bad, and I don't doubt that for a minute either.

But now this is like some weird co-dependent dance he's doing with you. Gets his blood pumping, gives him a reason to wake up in the morning. This thread is probably one of the biggest joys in his life (no cracks about his wife's weight, folks!) and if anyone thinks he would erase it if he could, they are delusional. I don't care if he filed in court to have it erased, or wrote angry letters to CBR about it or whatever... all part of the dance.

bert
01-28-2012, 03:23 PM
OH MY GOD. . you mean you might have been correct about something (hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally!), and you came here to rub faces in it -- without adding anything to the conversation.

who-hoo!. .

doesn't make you any less a troll OMAR, you're reputation all over the comics sites on the net, precedes you.

I'll be fair here, and admit you've been well behaved (for the most part) here at GABS, but it's only a matter of time before you revert to form.

Gail Simone
01-28-2012, 03:44 PM
Omar, do you ever add anything anywhere you show up?

If we'd shut this down back then, a lot of people would have been cheated in Rick's Adirondathon delusion, among others.
The reason we're doing it now is that the word is out, Rick's done. At best, he will only be able to cheat people on a small scale
now.

Seriously, go be a jerk somewhere else, we're all pretty sick of it, here.

Gail Simone
01-28-2012, 04:00 PM
I apologize, Tony. That is how Facebook groups work these days. Anybody can add anybody. With that FACT in mind, I did not expect you to take my adding you as a horrific INSULT. I knew you may not appreciate it, as that is always possible with this new Facebook group format. So I thought if you didn't like it, you would just remove yourself. It was not meant as something I mandated you to be a part of, and I certainly meant you no ill will. I am very sorry.

Respectfully, if you felt he might not appreciate it, why do it?

I agree with Tony, let people join if they choose, okay? It's not my site, but it seems common courtesy.

leftwingnutcase
01-28-2012, 04:02 PM
Respectfully, if you felt he might not appreciate it, why do it?

I agree with Tony, let people join if they choose, okay? It's not my site, but it seems common courtesy.

I have taken that into account from now on.

Gail Simone
01-28-2012, 04:34 PM
I have taken that into account from now on.

Fair enough!

Artful Angie
01-28-2012, 04:58 PM
I agree. Let's only add the people that come looking for us and not go looking for them, and trouble. But I will say that within an hour of my mentioning the page the three people I added were three people who came to the site requesting to be added. That's three more than Rick got the first hour he was set up on Facebook.

Again, I just want to use it as every other early warning device people in this group have set up on the Internet to wave people off of getting screwed by Rick. And I want that to be done with only things that are proven to be true. No opinions or long-winded BS. The best part of having it on Facebook means it can't get out of hand like the threads. Which also means no responding to any comments by Rick on his blegh on the Facebook page, please! That will be the surest way to get it shut down for abusive behavior.

BUT! I'm not opposed to somebody using their own websites for their own personal opinions and sending us the link to their site on the Facebook page. As long as it's clearly understood to whoever clicks on that link that they're going to be reading somebody's personal opinion, it's on them if they go there.

So if there's a link to Tony's website, or the Rick Olney Sucks site there, that's not carte blanche to start throwing abusive comments about Rick on our page, please. More than one person has stated I've been immature about Rick here in the threads, and I'm not disputing that. But I'd like to make sure that doesn't carry over to Facebook. Does that sound reasonable to everybody?

Now, getting back into my immature mode for a moment, let me just say this to Omar to carry across the mood of the room with his last comment. How's the weather? Because it's the end of January 2012, and I still don't see any lightning striking (cheesy lightning sound effect played too loud) anytime soon.

leftwingnutcase
01-28-2012, 06:08 PM
I am now an admin. I have updated the group's description to read thusly:


A page for people to describe their experiences with Rick Olney. Please keep any comments within the realm of Facebook Terms Of Service and good taste. It is not our intention to slander Mr. Olney, but rather to inform people of the documented facts. Anyone posting derogatory comments will be banned.

SarahBeach
01-28-2012, 07:10 PM
Well, his big announcement regarding the Matt Busch maps is -- tah dah -- that they are "not stolen". Because Matt made arrangements for Rick to sell them for a time.

So, even though he was contracturally obliged to return any onsold maps to Matt (that is right, isn't it? That's how I remembered it), and in fact he himself said he would in fact be returning those maps to Matt as of November 12... he has not done these things. And he still has the maps.

But they're not stolen.

I'm not sure... is there some other term for illegal possession of goods not belonging to you?

DocAbsurd
01-28-2012, 07:22 PM
But they're not stolen.

I'm not sure... is there some other term for illegal possession of goods not belonging to you?

Yup. It's called 'Olney'ed'.

JTPencils
01-28-2012, 08:29 PM
Well, his big announcement regarding the Matt Busch maps is -- tah dah -- that they are "not stolen". Because Matt made arrangements for Rick to sell them for a time.

So, even though he was contracturally obliged to return any onsold maps to Matt (that is right, isn't it? That's how I remembered it), and in fact he himself said he would in fact be returning those maps to Matt as of November 12... he has not done these things. And he still has the maps.

But they're not stolen.

I'm not sure... is there some other term for illegal possession of goods not belonging to you?

Regular sane person term - Reprehensible and theft

Olney term - donated to my favorite charity... ME!

MacQuarrie
01-28-2012, 10:40 PM
Well, his big announcement regarding the Matt Busch maps is -- tah dah -- that they are "not stolen". Because Matt made arrangements for Rick to sell them for a time.

So, even though he was contracturally obliged to return any onsold maps to Matt (that is right, isn't it? That's how I remembered it), and in fact he himself said he would in fact be returning those maps to Matt as of November 12... he has not done these things. And he still has the maps.

But they're not stolen.

I'm not sure... is there some other term for illegal possession of goods not belonging to you?
It's pretty clear that Olney has never understood how contracts work.

He had an agreement to sell the posters at Adirondathon, with all proceeds going to a particular charity for disabled veterans. Ergo, when Adirondathon was canceled, that agreement became void, and he was legally required to return any unsold posters.

Beyond that, Matt had an agreement with Lucasfilm to sell the posters to benefit a disabled veterans charity. His sub-licensing to Olney was probably legal, possibly not covered specifically in his agreement with the studio, but whatever conditions Matt agreed to with Lucasfilm are also enforceable to Olney, since he accepted the posters in order to sell them as a proxy for Matt. Since both agreements specified particular terms and limitations, Olney does not have the legal right to alter the deal. He is playing with fire here. His failure to abide by his agreement, and also Matt's agreement with Lucas, puts him in a position to be charged with grand theft, fraud, and other criminal charges, in addition to a civil suit for breach of contract. He doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Flamebird
01-29-2012, 12:42 AM
I'm not sure... is there some other term for illegal possession of goods not belonging to you?

"Fence"?

Matt Doc Martin
01-29-2012, 05:51 AM
"Fence"?

That is what he is trying to do NOW, yes.

Artful Angie
01-29-2012, 06:41 AM
Does anyone have a copy of his supposed iron-clad contract online anywhere, so I can add a link on the Facebook page? The main point of Rick's scams has always been dependent on his victims knowing even less about contracts than he does. I want to include that documentation, including any breakdown someone's done on it, so people know what to look for and avoid it.

SarahBeach
01-29-2012, 07:02 AM
It's possible there's one in the YABS thread. I seem to recall it. I have to go out this morning, but I or someone else can check for that on the Unscrewed Comics site (where the indexed is kept). It was either a copy (with the receiver's name blacked out) or just an analysis that Tom Stillwell posted after receiving a copy. But I'm running on memory here - but I think there is one. We've certainly posted a copy of his Non-Disclosure Agreement - which proved to be cut and pasted from one used for other purposes.

Gail Simone
01-29-2012, 07:29 AM
Angie, I would like to be invited to the fb page, please.

leftwingnutcase
01-29-2012, 07:37 AM
Gail, go to http://www.facebook.com/groups/115753711880403/

And request to join. As an admin, I'll add you.

Artful Angie
01-29-2012, 08:20 AM
Angie, I would like to be invited to the fb page, please.

Can I just say that I consider that high praise as to the validity of the idea of a Facebook page. I didn't want to presume and ask you if you would like to join. You know what the French say about presuming. (Come on! It wasn't that bad a joke)

Please let me know if you have any ideas as to how to make sure we keep it on an even keel?

AIPman1
01-29-2012, 11:26 AM
I'm actually considering having a section in the new SP! magazine site for threads that deal with conflict and resolution....not sure I could get it to work within the SPA 'code of conduct' though. I'd like to have SOME sort of hand in helping people who are wronged...I do have a "we support the Unscrewed" type thing ready, but I am unsure of how active they have been in looking at and helping people lately. Can someone update us in the status of Unscrewed and it's plans moving forward?

Artful Angie
01-29-2012, 01:26 PM
And Rick is at it again on his blegh:


Sunday, January 29, 2012

More Bile Spewed About Mighty Minicon 2003

Again, this was May 10, 2003. A one day comic book show held at the Herkimer Community College. Guests were brought in and expected on the afternoon of May 9th, and upon being picked up and driven to Herkimer, were given rooms at the Herkimer Hotel. Guests came into Syracuse Hancock airport, and by bus and train at the Utica Union Station.

But let's perhaps for the one hundredth time read what 'legend' in her own mind, comic book scribe, "Gail Simone" aka Tammy James has to say about it all again:


He's such a fucking idiot. Holy crap, I can't remember speaking with anyone so dumb in my entire life. Yikes.

I've been over all this a million times, but what the hell.

First, Rick, the Mighty Mini Con was NOT the first con I ever attended. I attended a lovely show in Portland, and was a guest of Marvel at the San Diego Comic Con before I ever attended your event. If you'd like to say yours was the first incompetent, horribly run convention I attended, yes, that's a truthful statement. One paragraph in and you're not
doing too well on facts.

Yeah, well, Gail, you win some and you lose some. I'm sure that a million and one times won't hurt you. So the 2003 Mighty Minicon was NOT your first show, huh? Well, you'd never know it! It took you nearly three years after that May day to feel that you had to set the record, broken as you sound, straight.

As I recall, it was after you were enlisted to attack me on Comic Book Resources in the first place. And, from your statement above any person coming into all this for the first time with an open mind, common sense, and a bit of intelligence can look at the photos on this blog and see that you're simply lying through your teeth.


Second, I never, EVER asked you to pay for my husband's airfare, everyone knows it. Never. I have proved it in email time and again, you brought up that idea, that you would pay his airfare, as a typical Olney stalling tactic. I never asked for it, not once. Prove it. Show a post or an email. I have posted your emails on this several times, and you have always went crying back home, unwilling to face your own words in black and white.

No, that isn't true. You actually DID ask me if we could cover your husband's airfare. Far as what you proved; loading a phony email written to address the subject and then posting it on your message board is NOT any sign of truthfulness.

I don't need to prove anything. The burden of proof is on you. You're the one making the outlandish lies while continually attacking me (in just this manner) these last 7 years. Huh? "I have posted your emails on this several times, and you have always went crying back home, unwilling to face your own words in black and white." It is clear that you are delusional. Again, a good indicator that all this is to you is an activity to ramp up your own anxiety and need to have conflict in your life. You began it all online against (the unnamed person you tagged) J-Bolt and have continued it on against me. You're such a sad needy individual.


Second, again, the hundred dollars was YOUR idea, when you didn't pay the full amount owed. Another typical Olney stalling tactic, you've used it on many pros...you delay and delay payment, then, to FURTHER keep people waiting, you say you will pay them a 'bonus' for the trouble. Then of course, you never pay that either. YOU came up with the $100, you delayed paying it for two years with a series of bullshit "It's in the mail!" and "I have to get it from a special account!" excuses. Same exact trick you pulled on a dozen other pros you've cheated. I've posted those emails many times as well. We've all
seen them, everyone who has had any dealings with you whatsoever knows exactly what I'm talking about.

Oh, another second. Feh.People that argue for the sake of arguing, or otherwise lie outright ALWAYS generalize. As in, "Second, again, the hundred dollars was YOUR idea, when you didn't pay the full amount owed. Another typical Olney stalling tactic, you've used it on many pros...you delay and delay payment, then, to FURTHER keep people waiting, you say you will pay them a 'bonus' for the trouble."

It isn't a stalling tactic. It is good business. You've never put together, arranged, conducted or hosted a comic book event -- so you have no idea that what you have described is a mere 'tool' in making tough situations not so tough to a vendor or guest. I think you're simply STILL pissed off that you couldn't weasel the $100 dollars out of me.

As you most likely recall, I OFFERED YOU reimbursement for your meal that night in Syracuse along with any breakfast before your flight home and layover in Chicago that day.

When I emailed you several days later to make sure you got home okay and follow-up on the meal reimbursement -- I asked you WHAT YOU HAD SPENT on food from that Saturday night until Sunday afternoon. YOU TOLD ME $100 dollars.

I then told you that I'd need your receipts for book keeping purposes and to justify the expense to ORCA. You then told me you'd check for them, also adding that you had put some on your own credit card. I then told you that I just needed a receipt with any pertinent personal information blackened out to reimburse you. THAT was where it was left between us, until... a week or so passed and after not hearing back from you -- I emailed you asking after the receipts. You told me never mind. That reimbursement wasn't needed, but that you did need to get paid (obviously) for your airfare. The image posted at the top of this blog post of the United States Postal Money Order IS YOUR travel reimbursement for one round-trip ticket from your point of departure in Oregon to Syracuse, New York and back.

You WERE reimbursed for your travel. You could have gotten another $100 dollars for food reimbursement, and we paid your hotel bill in Herkimer (for one night - May 9th) and also your hotel bill in Syracuse (for one night - May 10th), along with providing you with a expanded continental breakfast the morning of May 9th at Herkimer Community College -- and -- you and your husband both got $25 to spend on lunch. That's $50 dollars worth of food from the A+ rated HCCC cafeteria! Amazing!


I have no desire to 'suck up' to Chuck Dixon. I barely know Chuck and haven't talked to him in a couple years. Keep trying, deadbeat. The truth is, you cheated Chuck, like you cheated every other pro who worked on the Tightlip books. And they all hate your guts.

Anyone that has ever read and followed your rants and raves knows that isn't true.


Nice 'good reputation' you have there, Ricky.

Yawn. Too bored to expose the rest, everyone knows the truth already.

Of course, he'll just have a meltdown and then delete the site the next day, as he has done a dozen times in the past.

As opposed to what? Doing what you do? Your most popular message board thread has my name on it. It is your greatest work! What you'll long be remembered for!


You're getting BORING, Rick.

You wrote the book on boring, "Gail Simone."

That's quite rght, Gail. You wrote the book... and the other book... and the other book... You know, all the books that you actually get paid for wrting every month. And have since Mighty Take-A-Crap-O-Con was put out. You know, where you've made that $100.00 dollars back dozens of times over. Unlike poor Rick who hasn't been able to make an honest cent since he screwed people over and got outed for it. Not that he's made an honest cent ever. But by targeting him, the poor man hasn't had a chance to screw anybody over and make money doing it, so how do you expect him to make any money to pay you that $100.00 he owes you. I mean really! Put some thought into it "Gail"!!

*BOOM!*

Crap! That's my 12th Sarcasm Detector that I've redlined because of Rick. And he doesn't have any money to pay me back for them!

So my question for Gail, oh, I'm sorry, Ricky, I meant "Gail"... Is who exactly "enlisted" you for this war on Rick? The KISS Army? The Guardians Of The Universe? The Spaceknights? The Legion Of Super-Pets? What evil organization could have swayed you to... you know, tell the truth about Rick Olney? Those vicious bastards!

And did anybody's Irony Detector almost burn out at
It is clear that you are delusional. Again, a good indicator that all this is to you is an activity to ramp up your own anxiety and need to have conflict in your life.

Here we've been talking for days about shutting the thread down to stop feeding Rick's need for conflict, and he goes and tries to ramp up the thread again. This thread here:


Your most popular message board thread has my name on it. It is your greatest work! What you'll long be remembered for!

That thread, the ONLY thing Rick will be remembered for.

So Rick, if you weren't so worried about being forgotten and this "famous thread" disappearing, why not just shut up and let it happen??

Because like Gail said, folks. If the thread is shut down, the only thing that really makes Rick feel like a MAN gets taken away from him too.

And I can bet he's just foaming at the mouth about the Facebook page too, ladies and gents. But because it's being treated above board and factual, there's not Thing One he can do about shutting it down.

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-29-2012, 02:34 PM
I'm not much for joining a Facebook group so before this thread closes, here's another place I found to keep an eye on Rick's actions.

https://plus.google.com/105948537628939351811/about (https://plus.google.com/105948537628939351811/about)

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-29-2012, 02:41 PM
Also, nice to see it only took Rick a few days to break his pledge to only reply to Gail. He's got a new entry replying to Ian. He also replied to Matt in comments of Matt Busch entry.


Matt Doc Martin Jan 28, 2012 07:29 PM
So why won't you return the maps to Matt Busch per his request? By keeping them, you are guilty of theft.

Rick Olney Jan 29, 2012 11:40 AM
Don't you and that "Gail Simone" gang ever wake up and wonder what role YOU'RE each playing in these personal matters of mine? Again, I am not guilty of theft. Matt Busch can have his unsold maps back just as soon as he publicly apologizes to me for the lies he's told and harm he's done my good name, and after I have actually heard from Lucasfilm regarding where the remaining films can be sent TO THEM. I will have no more personal or business dealings with Matt Busch.

Matt Doc MartinJan 29, 2012 06:59 AM
Look...you don't have to publish this, but I want to out it out there as an "out" for you.

I am going to Ithacon this weekend. Consider, if you will, bringing the maps to me. We will keep a chain of custody, i.e. I will give you a receipt for maps received. Also, if you actually HAVE sold any, please black out names on the receipts for money orders you received and bring copies of them and the actual cash. I will front expense of shipping Matt Busch the maps back and let him decide where he will donate money.

You can phrase this action following ANY WAY YOU WANT. But, you know that keeping the maps is not the right thing to do as well as I.

If you return maps, I will gladly post how gracious you were (if you are)and ask folks to acknowledge that you got this one right. It will not absolve you of other money owed, naturally, but a win is a win.

Consider it, please. Will not cost you anything and will score you points. How can it not?

You have my email, or, if you want me to leave it for you again, drop a word here, if you want to discuss further.

Rick Olney Jan 29, 2012 11:47 AM
I don't need an "out" in any regard relating to this matter. Your offer is ridiculous. I'd never bother to waste my time going to an Ithacon ever again, and handing ANYTHING over to you, for whatever a reason would be insane. NOTHING qualifies you to even suggest such a thing. You sound like you have no life. As if, all you want to do is stick your nose where it doesn't belong.

And points? Stick your "points" up your ass.

Matt Doc Martin
01-29-2012, 02:50 PM
I figured I would give it a shot. He wants to play the stubborn dumbass. I wasn't going to, but Angie spoiled the surprise of me coming up.

But yeah, it is easy to get him to break his word.

It is almost sad.

Artful Angie
01-29-2012, 02:52 PM
Yeah, his new blegh is all the same old BS story about Ian and Kathy, with more insults about them overeating. Nothing worth responding to here. Better to ignore it, and make him froth up and post another meltdown. And please screencap them? Thanks.

AIPman1
01-29-2012, 03:00 PM
I certainly have nothing more to say about the MMC bullshit. I have stated the truth repeatedly, he still wants to say he gave me anything more than $100, he's full of shit...Suck on dry air when this thread is closed, Olney, your days of spotlight are over. No one CARES enough anymore. We just want to see Matt get his maps back, and you stop trying to scam new people. We dont need to say another word directly to YOU to do that. bye!!!

Artful Angie
01-29-2012, 03:02 PM
I figured I would give it a shot. He wants to play the stubborn dumbass. I wasn't going to, but Angie spoiled the surprise of me coming up.

But yeah, it is easy to get him to break his word.

It is almost sad.

Sorry Matt! I didn't think it was a big surprise. My bad. But it wouldn't matter, because for someone who claims to want to give the people at Ithaca a piece of his mind he's awfully chickenshit to actually be in the same room as any of them.

Just like you, Doc. He claims he's got "something for you" if you were ever in front of him. But when he has the option to do it, he pussies out like the Mail Room Marine he really is.

Not that he's even get in the door. The comic show doesn't take bounced checks.

AIPman1
01-29-2012, 03:19 PM
PS: For the record, my wife's name starts with a K......

Coppervale Studio
01-29-2012, 03:28 PM
If I were Matt Busch, I would fly across the country, rent a car, and drive directly to Rick's house, after having contacted the Herkimer police, informing them that he is on the way to retrieve some personal possessions, and would appreciate the presence of an officer to make sure there's no physical altercation.

Rick is far too much of an impotent coward to do anything but hand over the maps if Matt asked for them in person while an officer was present.

AIPman1
01-29-2012, 03:30 PM
he's just lie and say "I dont have them, they are in the mail, to uh, lucasfilm, yeah, that's the ticket..."

Gail Simone
01-29-2012, 03:39 PM
Hey, James!

Yeah, I thought about posting again how many times Rick lied to me about payment, and posting all his emails again, nearly identical to the lies he told OTHER creators he cheated,
but everyone here has seen them several times.

And again, Rick, you can't find a single name pro to say a good word about you or how you do business, isn't that interesting?

While I've attended dozens of real conventions since then, and have nothing but positive things to say about every single one, and am invited back to them all constantly.

Funny how, with all these pros, YOURS is the only name that comes up again and again as a lying deadbeat.

You want to believe your poorly attended, poorly conceived, and poorly run convention was something wonderful, then why did you use its utter failure as an excuse to
not pay your debts?

And everyone on the previous thread, including names like Kurt Busiek, saw you try to float the fiction that you paid my husband's airfare, for months, something I never,
ever asked you to do (more Olney stalling tactics). You did in black and white on the other thread for months, then finally admitted you had never paid a dime towards
my husband's airfare, that it was just something you'd made up. Everyone here watched you admit it. It's GOT to be frustrating to lie so often you can't remember which
lie you told last.

As for the rest, we have a plan coming up for the last day of the thread. And then the thread will be closed and those posts will be locked in, every time someone googles
your name, they'll see your own words.

So, post all you like to your site that no one but us goes to. There's not a name pro or retailer in the world who believes a word of it, and that's what happens after a decade
of lies and deadbeatism.

Artful Angie
01-29-2012, 04:04 PM
PS: For the record, my wife's name starts with a K......

Corrected it in edit, Ian! My bads!

Artful Angie
01-29-2012, 04:12 PM
Hey, James!

Yeah, I thought about posting again how many times Rick lied to me about payment, and posting all his emails again, nearly identical to the lies he told OTHER creators he cheated,
but everyone here has seen them several times.

And again, Rick, you can't find a single name pro to say a good word about you or how you do business, isn't that interesting?

While I've attended dozens of real conventions since then, and have nothing but positive things to say about every single one, and am invited back to them all constantly.

Funny how, with all these pros, YOURS is the only name that comes up again and again as a lying deadbeat.

You want to believe your poorly attended, poorly conceived, and poorly run convention was something wonderful, then why did you use its utter failure as an excuse to
not pay your debts?

And everyone on the previous thread, including names like Kurt Busiek, saw you try to float the fiction that you paid my husband's airfare, for months, something I never,
ever asked you to do (more Olney stalling tactics). You did in black and white on the other thread for months, then finally admitted you had never paid a dime towards
my husband's airfare, that it was just something you'd made up. Everyone here watched you admit it. It's GOT to be frustrating to lie so often you can't remember which
lie you told last.

As for the rest, we have a plan coming up for the last day of the thread. And then the thread will be closed and those posts will be locked in, every time someone googles
your name, they'll see your own words.

So, post all you like to your site that no one but us goes to. There's not a name pro or retailer in the world who believes a word of it, and that's what happens after a decade
of lies and deadbeatism.

It's always the Circle Of Illogic with Rick, Gail. The con was a success, except for when he wants to complain about it didn't make enough money to pay all the bills the con brought in. Then it's the guests' fault the extra bills came in because they didn't stcik to Rick's plan, until he tries to brag that everything went so great because of him.

Outsider
01-29-2012, 04:18 PM
Screencaps:

http://imgur.com/a/CwoTe

Sorry, the first cap was blank. Here's a replacement:

http://i.imgur.com/fZs8Ss.jpg (http://imgur.com/fZs8S)

HamsterRage
01-29-2012, 04:22 PM
So if he's recieved no C&D... Why isn't he attempting to sell the maps again?

Gail Simone
01-29-2012, 04:46 PM
Screencaps:

http://imgur.com/a/CwoTe

Sorry, the first cap was blank. Here's a replacement:

http://i.imgur.com/fZs8Ss.jpg (http://imgur.com/fZs8S)


Outsider, thank you again...I have someone I'm sending these on to.

MyNameIsNotLarry
01-29-2012, 05:04 PM
This is an insignificant lie from Rick but just to show how easy it is to catch him changing stories.

From his latest blog:


Yeah, he's sworn six hundred paid attendees were at the con in 2003. Which is complete horseshit. There was NO ONE there the whole second half of the day.

No, that isn't what I have ever said. What I DID say was that we had a little over 400 paid admissions that day and another 200 college kids that took advantage of the event floor layout to get in without paying.


Now from Rick's deleted to try and hide the evidence, too bad for him we screencap his crap blog from July 19, 2011.

We had an count of over 600+ paid admissions and several hundred 'free roamers' from the HCCC college students.

SarahBeach
01-29-2012, 05:15 PM
Yeah, I read his latest statement about attendance at the thing and went "No... you've clamined there were 600 paid attendees." So I'm glad you reference that screencap. Thanks.

But he's just spinning his wheels now. He quotes a statement from Gail, and then responds to a question she never asks. She said one guest was held up waiting around as Rick closed the show, when the guest needed to eat. And Rick's "answer" to that is that the guest wasn't in the car that took Gail to Syracuse.

She never said he was, Rick. She said he was one of the people still waiting at the college with her, and that he needed to eat. Geesh.

She asked if you ever paid Mike Kaluha, and your answer is that Mike drove himself to the convention.

That doesn't answer the question in anyone's brain except yours, and we're not seeing the logic sequence for how you make the connection.

Time to stop, Rick. The MMC was in 2003 -- NINE years ago. You keep harping on it, and all Gail says is it was a crappy convention. Then you launch into your fountain of feeble justifications for why it was a wonderful thing, while at the same time grousing about people expecting basic expenses to be covered as you indicated they would be. Give it up, Rick. You can't make it into anything other than what it was - an overly ambitious flop of a convention, which you have tried to puff off as being so much bigger and better than it was. It's done with.

Outsider
01-29-2012, 05:26 PM
Outsider, thank you again...I have someone I'm sending these on to.

I'm happy to help.

leftwingnutcase
01-29-2012, 06:15 PM
Another way-cool guest! Also joining us at the "Cabin Fever" comic book show will be comic book artist and fantasy illustrator Steve Ellis (hypersteve.com)