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oconnellmd
06-11-2010, 07:35 PM
Poll to come (I assume...I've never set one up before).

I don't answer my front door when someone knocks or rings. It's 2010. No friends or family of mine just "drop by". Everyone calls or texts first. And if it's FedEx or UPS, I usually know something's coming and have a tracking number and can know if it's arriving that day (and am usually waiting for it). Or if it's not something I ordered, my delivery guys know to just throw it on my patio if I'm not home.

This means whoever at the door is someone I don't want to talk to. This means it's someone selling religion, selling magazine subscriptions, or possibly a homeless person with a can of ravioli asking to use my microwave to warm it up (this has happened). Every time I break my rule about this and go ahead and answer the door, I regret it. And being a guy in a wheelchair living alone, I'm also a pretty easy target for someone to rob if I open the door to them. So I've stopped altogether.

Wondering if this is a regional thing. Do you answer YOUR door?

Ryan Elliott
06-11-2010, 07:39 PM
I try not to.

The Human Target
06-11-2010, 07:39 PM
Yeah, because it could always been a woman who just got raped and needs help or maybe like a wizard summoning me to aid his magical kingdom.

Also, I possess windows to look out before I open the door. And I used to have an eye hole looking through thing.

R0cketFr0g
06-11-2010, 07:42 PM
Yeah, because it could always been a woman who just got raped and needs helpor maybe like a wizard summoning me to aid his magical kingdom.

Also, I possess windows to look out before I open the door. And I used to have an eye hole looking through thing.

Couldn't the wizard just poof himself in?

Jason California
06-11-2010, 07:43 PM
Couldn't the wizard just poof himself in?


Maybe he is working with vampire rules and has to be invited in the first time.

The Human Target
06-11-2010, 07:44 PM
Couldn't the wizard just poof himself in?

If I'm not brave enough to open my fucking door for a guy in a pointy hat and spangled robe what use will I be defending a kingdom from orcs and dragons?

R0cketFr0g
06-11-2010, 07:45 PM
Maybe he is working with vampire rules and has to be invited in the first time.

Mr. Fancy Pants Vampire Wizard can fuck off and die then.

R0cketFr0g
06-11-2010, 07:46 PM
If I'm not brave enough to open my fucking door for a guy in a pointy hat and spangled robe what use will I be defending a kingdom from orcs and dragons?

But that's my point. If fucking Merkin the Magnificent isn't powerful enough to get past a deadbolt, I say the Orcs can have his kingdom.

dasNdanger
06-11-2010, 07:59 PM
Yes, but I usually know whoever is there. If I don't know who it is, I'll answer but won't open the door...just talk through the door or window. But that doesn't happen too much.


das

R0cketFr0g
06-11-2010, 08:08 PM
Yes, but I usually know whoever is there. If I don't know who it is, I'll answer but won't open the door...just talk through the door or window. But that doesn't happen too much.


das

Do you find it's typically a wizard or a fleeing rape victim?

Howlett
06-11-2010, 08:09 PM
I tend not to as a general rule, but sometimes if I'm tired I will.

I tend to have a blanket response for everyone though.

"Hi... fuck off!"

If it's a friend, I tend to add a "You have my number. Next time call first" in between the hi and the fuck up there.

If it's someone religious, I change it to "Jesus/ Buddha/ whoever doesn't exist! Santa Claus told me so" and shut the door in their face.

Flonk
06-11-2010, 08:18 PM
Kind of off topic, but as far as dealing with the religious types goes, I've started taking any and all religious pamphlets given to me and tearing them up in front of the person, which is quite fun.

R0cketFr0g
06-11-2010, 08:21 PM
Kind of off topic, but as far as dealing with the religious types goes, I've started taking any and all religious pamphlets given to me and tearing them up in front of the person, which is quite fun.

You should build up to wiping your ass with it and handing it back with a polite "No Thank You."

Flonk
06-11-2010, 08:27 PM
You should build up to wiping your ass with it and handing it back with a polite "No Thank You."

That... that's not a bad idea.


Let's be realistic though, I wouldn't be wiping my ass. Just shoving it down the back of my pants. Which would still get my point across.

R0cketFr0g
06-11-2010, 08:29 PM
That... that's not a bad idea.


Let's be realistic though, I wouldn't be wiping my ass. Just shoving it down the back of my pants. Which would still get my point across.

Right. It's more of a symbolic gesture.

With possible ass-juice.

xyzzy
06-11-2010, 08:31 PM
Honestly, it's never occurred to me to not answer the door. Still not sure why you wouldn't. If it's a salesman or something, you just say no thanks and close the door.

R0cketFr0g
06-11-2010, 08:34 PM
Honestly, it's never occurred to me to not answer the door. Still not sure why you wouldn't. If it's a salesman or something, you just say no thanks and close the door.

I think he made it pretty clear why he wouldn't. He's a guy in a wheelchair living alone and has some trepidation. And he doesn't need to say no thank you to somebody bothering him in his home.

WillieLee
06-11-2010, 08:48 PM
I think he made it pretty clear why he wouldn't. He's a guy in a wheelchair living alone and has some trepidation. And he doesn't need to say no thank you to somebody bothering him in his home.

Sure, drain all the fun out of this.

R0cketFr0g
06-11-2010, 08:52 PM
Sure, drain all the fun out of this.

I think I hear your doorbell ringing.

WillieLee
06-11-2010, 08:53 PM
I think I hear your doorbell ringing.

Let me get my cart.

Dreaded Anomaly
06-11-2010, 08:56 PM
I almost always answer the door, but I'm lucky enough to live somewhere with a low concentration of door-to-door proselytizers/salesmen/homeless people/etc.

In the cases when I don't, it's usually one of the obnoxious neighbor kids.

oconnellmd
06-11-2010, 08:59 PM
Mr. Fancy Pants Vampire Wizard

This is an action figure I now must own.

oconnellmd
06-11-2010, 09:14 PM
Honestly, it's never occurred to me to not answer the door. Still not sure why you wouldn't. If it's a salesman or something, you just say no thanks and close the door.

Even taking the wheelchair thing out of the equation (I once had some overly-aggressive "buy newspaper subscriptions from us so we get to go on this school trip" teens that had nearly pushed their way into my home and were refusing to take no for an answer, so yeah, I get nervous), is it my responsibility to answer that door? Why do they get the right to annoy me and put me in the awkward spot of having to tell them no (while trying to be polite) when they're being impolite by interrupting my dinner/tv show/whatever to try to sell me something I don't want? Just because someone knocks does that create a societal duty to answer, or like with caller ID when you see an 800 # can you just realize it's nothing you're interested in and not answer? On that point, I also look at the caller ID and don't answer the phone if I don't know who it is, because 99 times out of 100, it's not going to be someone I want/need to talk to.

I'm really glad you brought up this point, as this speaks to my curiosity as to whether this is a regional thing. Because I'm a lifelong Californian, does that make ignoring the door not such a big thing, while in other US states or other parts of the world, it's considered unthinkable to not answer the door when the knocker hits, because that's just the societal norm? This is just the kind of response I was curious about, whether others would never consider not answering.

WillieLee
06-11-2010, 09:16 PM
Now that I think of it, I will avoid answering the door. And not because I think it's the government trying to get me.

Jason California
06-11-2010, 09:17 PM
I don't answer the phone if I don't know the number. I won't call back if you don't leave a message.

oconnellmd
06-11-2010, 09:17 PM
Now that I think of it, I will avoid answering the door. And not because I think it's the government trying to get me.

Yeah, but now that I'VE thought it through more, I wonder how many Forum letter opportunities I've missed out on over the years...

WillieLee
06-11-2010, 09:18 PM
Yeah, but now that I'VE thought it through more, I wonder how many Forum letter opportunities I've missed out on over the years...

I make up for that by going to the dentist every week.

Jason California
06-11-2010, 09:20 PM
Also, do you get annoyed when after you don't answer the phone, the caller will try back 2-3 additional times repeatedly, as if you just didn't hear it the first time, or they are going to wear you out? Jeezus Christ do they annoy me.

But yeah, I normally answer the door.

R0cketFr0g
06-11-2010, 09:20 PM
I don't answer the phone if I don't know the number. I won't call back if you don't leave a message.

Why would anyone call a number they don't know back if it doesn't leave a number?

Unless that's how wizards have begun to communicate?

Jason California
06-11-2010, 09:21 PM
Why would anyone call a number they don't know back if it doesn't leave a number?


I wont call anybody back that does not leave a message. unknown, or my mom.

R0cketFr0g
06-11-2010, 09:21 PM
I make up for that by going to the dentist every week.

Drill Baby Drill!!!

Dreaded Anomaly
06-11-2010, 09:30 PM
I don't answer the phone if I don't know the number. I won't call back if you don't leave a message.

Same here. However, I'm much more likely to call someone back if they leave a text rather than a voicemail, because voicemail just sucks.

Flonk
06-11-2010, 09:32 PM
Right. It's more of a symbolic gesture.

With possible ass-juice.

With my ass in the morning, there is nothing "possible" about the ass juice.

Jason California
06-11-2010, 09:34 PM
Same here. However, I'm much more likely to call someone back if they leave a text rather than a voicemail, because voicemail just sucks.


My vm says that I don't normally answer the phone, and I check vm less. The best chance of a response is through text.

R0cketFr0g
06-11-2010, 09:34 PM
I wont call anybody back that does not leave a message. unknown, or my mom.

My mom lives in our basement and I wont call her back.

WillieLee
06-11-2010, 09:48 PM
I wont call anybody back that does not leave a message. unknown, or my mom.

People have to bring your mom with them to get a response? That seems rather involved.

The Crushtacean
06-11-2010, 09:51 PM
Yes, because sometimes it has been neighbors who accidentally tossed something in my backyard or got my mail accidentally or whatever. It happens. If it's a salesman or missionary or like that, I just tell them I'm not interested and shut the door. Who cares if they think I'm rude?

Jason California
06-11-2010, 09:53 PM
Plus I can just say "No hablo Engles".

DAVE
06-11-2010, 10:25 PM
I answer my door with my pants around my ankles and my cock in my hand, going "awwoooo- awoooo-awooowooawoowooo.ahhh!" in the hopes that its someone there for religious purposes. Or I just buzz down and go, "huh!? Who is it?". And if I don't like the cut of their sonic jib I don't buzz them in.

c. page
06-11-2010, 10:59 PM
Why would anyone call a number they don't know back if it doesn't leave a number?

Unless that's how wizards have begun to communicate?

goddamn wizards not leaving numbers and expecting you to call them back.

Girlfriend In A Coma
06-11-2010, 11:34 PM
I have a good view of the door from the second floor so I usually know who is knocking. I live out in the country and people who come onto the property need to have a reason to be here. I won't say that I'm hostile if I have to deal with a stranger at the door but I am very cautious...and armed.

Can't be too careful.

Mikie
06-12-2010, 12:19 AM
Yes, because what if porn has it right and there is a horny pizza delivery gal on the other side of the door?

leafinsectman
06-12-2010, 01:52 AM
Look through the peephole first I guess. Or set up some sort of camera.

I live in an apartment and no one knocks at my door. People have to call me first if they're coming over.

dasNdanger
06-12-2010, 02:32 AM
Do you find it's typically a wizard or a fleeing rape victim?

Once - believe it or not - it was a fleeing wizard rape victim. Ever since I helped, everyone who knocks at my door now just wants to give me money. Funny how that works.


das

Andreas
06-12-2010, 04:43 AM
If I'm not brave enough to open my fucking door for a guy in a pointy hat and spangled robe what use will I be defending a kingdom from orcs and dragons?

:lol:

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 04:59 AM
goddamn wizards not leaving numbers and expecting you to call them back.

Wizards are cunts.

Bill Nolan
06-12-2010, 05:07 AM
I do. And even for the guy from the Jehovah's Witnesses. He's very nice. And they're not pushy or anything. We just explain pleasantries and he tells me what's in the newest Watchtower and the other magazine they hand out. I'm nice, he's nice, I get some interesting reading material for free, and he's gone. The JW's never ask for money, at least in my experience, so I have no problem being friendly to them.

costello
06-12-2010, 05:11 AM
I live in New Hampshire. Honestly, I hate people, but I always answer the door. I offer the person a drink and we sit on the front porch.

I don't really know my neighbors, but I help shovel out their driveways after snow storms . I also bake them cookies on the holidays.

Garth
06-12-2010, 05:13 AM
You schmucks will NEVER get one of those huge checks from Publishers Clearing House.

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 05:14 AM
I live in New Hampshire. Honestly, I hate people, but I always answer the door. I offer the person a drink and we sit on the front porch.

You live in NH or Mayberry?

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 05:15 AM
You schmucks will NEVER get one of those huge checks from Publishers Clearing House.

And you'll be devoured by Zombie Ed McMahon.

I'll take my chances.

costello
06-12-2010, 05:20 AM
You live in NH or Mayberry?

Just outside of Manchester.

Acting this way comes in handy. Neighbors have helped me pull my car out of the snow when it's stuck, they've told me when the lights in my car are still on and they shoo away strangers when I'm not at home. They're also better bakers.

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 05:22 AM
just outside of manchester.

Acting this way comes in handy. Neighbors have helped me pull my car out of the snow when it's stuck, they've told me when the lights in my car are still on and they shoo away strangers when i'm not at home. They're also better bakers.

:)

costello
06-12-2010, 05:30 AM
:)

You're expecting me to write "everything's in black & white and we wake up to our own theme song" next, don't you? :)

dEnny!
06-12-2010, 05:31 AM
Now with two children, yes only because sometimes the next door neighbors will now knock to see if the kids want to come out and play. My one big problem is on the weekends I don't usually get dressed to go out until later in the morning, run around in my boxers and undershirt, so I won't answer the door if I haven't showered or put on my clothes.

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 05:31 AM
You're expecting me to write "everything's in black & white and we wake up to our own theme song" next, don't you? :)

That's how it is in my head.

TIP
06-12-2010, 05:35 AM
Now with two children, yes only because sometimes the next door neighbors will now knock to see if the kids want to come out and play. My one big problem is on the weekends I don't usually get dressed to go out until later in the morning, run around in my boxers and undershirt, so I won't answer the door if I haven't showered or put on my clothes.

Will you answer the door if it's an unshowered and nude wizard selling nether-region hairpieces?

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 05:37 AM
Will you answer the door if it's an unshowered and nude wizard selling nether-region hairpieces?

Poof!

russw
06-12-2010, 05:42 AM
Wizards are cunts.

That's what you basement whore of a mother said...

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 05:47 AM
That's what you basement whore of a mother said...

But she said it in an interview in Wizard.

xyzzy
06-12-2010, 05:51 AM
Even taking the wheelchair thing out of the equation (I once had some overly-aggressive "buy newspaper subscriptions from us so we get to go on this school trip" teens that had nearly pushed their way into my home and were refusing to take no for an answer, so yeah, I get nervous), is it my responsibility to answer that door? Why do they get the right to annoy me and put me in the awkward spot of having to tell them no (while trying to be polite) when they're being impolite by interrupting my dinner/tv show/whatever to try to sell me something I don't want? Just because someone knocks does that create a societal duty to answer, or like with caller ID when you see an 800 # can you just realize it's nothing you're interested in and not answer? On that point, I also look at the caller ID and don't answer the phone if I don't know who it is, because 99 times out of 100, it's not going to be someone I want/need to talk to.

I do think that you have a social obligation of sorts to answer the door. Ignoring the phone is one thing, but ignoring someone in person is rude.


I'm really glad you brought up this point, as this speaks to my curiosity as to whether this is a regional thing. Because I'm a lifelong Californian, does that make ignoring the door not such a big thing, while in other US states or other parts of the world, it's considered unthinkable to not answer the door when the knocker hits, because that's just the societal norm? This is just the kind of response I was curious about, whether others would never consider not answering.

Dunno. Was raised in the SF Bay area (east) by Chinese immigrant parents.

TIP
06-12-2010, 05:51 AM
Poof!

No poofters.

No member of the faculty is to maltreat the "Abos" in any way whatsoever—if there's anyone watching.

No poofters.

I don't want to catch anyone not drinking in their room after lights out.

No poofters.

There is no... rule six.

No poofters.

Urgur the Gurgur
06-12-2010, 06:24 AM
But that's my point. If fucking Merkin the Magnificent isn't powerful enough to get past a deadbolt, I say the Orcs can have his kingdom.

Magnificent Merkin you say?

UltimateFactor
06-12-2010, 06:33 AM
Man, I must live in an alternate reality or somthing. No one ever just comes up to our door like that :rofl: Then again, I live in the "Hood" so that might have somthing to do with it.

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 06:33 AM
Magnificent Merkin you say?

Poof!

Urgur the Gurgur
06-12-2010, 06:37 AM
Poof!

Puff
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e346/theenemycometh/funny/unnamed.jpg

Garth
06-12-2010, 06:42 AM
And you'll be devoured by Zombie Ed McMahon.

I'll take my chances.

So, even in zombie form Ed McMahon still carries out his prize-giving duties?

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 06:44 AM
So, even in zombie form Ed McMahon still carries out his prize-giving duties?

Zombie Ed McMahon is a pro.

Howlett
06-12-2010, 06:48 AM
Poof!

Don't you call Merkin the Magnificent a poof! He's all man! :mad:

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 06:52 AM
Don't you call Merkin the Magnificent a poof! He's all man! :mad:

His Fuschia Robe bedazzled with stars and moons begs to differ.

Jason California
06-12-2010, 06:54 AM
I do think that you have a social obligation of sorts to answer the door. Ignoring the phone is one thing, but ignoring someone in person is rude.




That is just silly.

Blake Sims
06-12-2010, 06:56 AM
That is just silly.

There's one guy that comes around my place that asks for a cigarette every time I see him. Rather than be rude and say no, I'm just rude by avoiding his knocks. Only during the day time though, he'd see the lights on at night.

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 07:09 AM
That is just silly.

I agree. Get off my lawn.

Bill Nolan
06-12-2010, 07:12 AM
I agree. Get off my lawn.

I was sad a few months ago, when I leaned out my window to yell that and I realized it was my own kids on my lawn... :(

Flonk
06-12-2010, 07:15 AM
Magnificent Merkin you say?

A Merkin of Many Colors

Sy-Klone
06-12-2010, 07:46 AM
Depends on the context. Thankfully, I have a peep hole so I can make these decisions.

If I look out the peep hole and see someone I know, or if it's the landlord or apartment maintenance or my mailman with a package or the UPS guy? Sure. I'll put my pants on, open the door, and be Polite Sy.

If I look out the peep hole and see a 14-year old boy selling grapefruits for his high school band, I'll ignore it. It's mean, but I don't eat grapefruits. Really, I don't eat door-to-door fruits of any kind. I don't buy overpriced candy bars, either. And I'm not buying a magazine subscription to MADEMOISELLE so you can take that trip to Cabo San Lucas with your friends.

It's a judgment call.

(Also, peep hole may not be the right term for it. Peep hole implies something lascivious. I'm only sometimes lascivious when I look out my peep hole.)

Jason California
06-12-2010, 07:54 AM
I agree. Get off my lawn.


Now I am not going to mow it.

LadyDeadpool
06-12-2010, 08:17 AM
It depends on the time of day. I live in happy lil' suburbia so it typically isn't anyone who will attack/rape/or kill me. Typically. But if it's at night, I don't. Until the person gets exasperated and yells out for me if it's someone I know.

My friends tend to come over to my house and kidnap me for shenanigans, so it's beneficial for me to answer the door. Shenanigans are fun.

If it's someone going door to door selling something or preaching, I will even listen kindly to them, because dammit, those people tend to get the door slammed in their face. And that's not very nice. But if they try to convert me (after their long religious schpeal) I tell them I'm Jewish. Or a Pastafarian. Things get reeeally awkward after that.

One time, a group of neighborhood preteen boys were doorbell ditching everyone in the area. I got a heads up. So when they came to our house, I answered the door in full Deadpool regalia, firing my BB-gun at them. They don't doorbell ditch anymore.

xyzzy
06-12-2010, 08:19 AM
That is just silly.

You don't think that ignoring someone is rude?

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 08:22 AM
Now I am not going to mow it.

Typical...

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 08:23 AM
You don't think that ignoring someone is rude?

I do think that an uninvited solicitation at my front door is rude, yes.

Thudpucker
06-12-2010, 08:24 AM
I use the peephole. If I don't know who it is I sit back down and wait for them to leave.

xyzzy
06-12-2010, 08:26 AM
I do think that an uninvited solicitation at my front door is rude, yes.

You should not respond to rudeness with rude behavior on your own part.

Blake Sims
06-12-2010, 08:28 AM
I don't see the big deal in ignoring somebody. It sucks, but hey its your door.

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 08:29 AM
You should not respond to rudeness with rude behavior on your own part.

Rude would be telling them to fuck off. Not answering the door is passive aggressive at most.

Damian696
06-12-2010, 08:31 AM
and as I am reading this thread - the doorbell rings ... :scared:

Andreas
06-12-2010, 08:32 AM
You should not respond to rudeness with rude behavior on your own part.

How is it rude? They just assume nobody's home and walk to the next door.

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 08:35 AM
and as I am reading this thread - the doorbell rings ... :scared:

Is it Merkin the Magnificent?

Thudpucker
06-12-2010, 08:35 AM
You should not respond to rudeness with rude behavior on your own part.

Ignoring rude behavior is the best response. Simply move on like it never happened.

As for uninvited guests if they don't even know who I am they have no business coming to my home and intruding on my time. Someone who does that is not worth the courtesy of acknowledgment.

Jason California
06-12-2010, 08:39 AM
You don't think that ignoring someone is rude?

I don't have any obligation to answer the door if you knock.

Whether it is rude or not is based on the circumstances at the time.

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Artie Pink
06-12-2010, 08:41 AM
I'd like to say "no" but I'm usually so annoyed and curious that I do. It's tough to peek without them seeing you, so I usually fling open the door in anger.

xyzzy
06-12-2010, 08:45 AM
Rude would be telling them to fuck off. Not answering the door is passive aggressive at most.

We have different standards.

xyzzy
06-12-2010, 08:46 AM
I don't have any obligation to answer the door if you knock.

Whether it is rude or not is based on the circumstances at the time.

Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G using Tapatalk

Not sure what you mean by obligation.

If I say good morning to you, you aren't legally or morally obligated to respond, I guess. But I do think that it's weird and rude not to. There's a social obligation, of sorts.

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 08:46 AM
I'd like to say "no" but I'm usually so annoyed and curious that I do. It's tough to peek without them seeing you, so I usually fling open the door in anger.

And are you usually nude?

xyzzy
06-12-2010, 08:47 AM
How is it rude? They just assume nobody's home and walk to the next door.

I guess I don't know how you operate, but if you've checked in some way to see who it is who has come to your door, they probably know that you're home.

Damian696
06-12-2010, 08:50 AM
Is it Merkin the Magnificent?

nope. the police, asking me to move my car.

some truck driver took a wrong turn (or rather, didn't take a turn when he should've) and got stuck at the turn where my car was parked.

Blake Sims
06-12-2010, 08:50 AM
I guess I don't know how you operate, but if you've checked in some way to see who it is who has come to your door, they probably know that you're home.

I stealth that shit.

Thudpucker
06-12-2010, 08:50 AM
Not sure what you mean by obligation.

If I say good morning to you, you aren't legally or morally obligated to respond, I guess. But I do think that it's weird and rude not to. There's a social obligation, of sorts.

Saying 'good morning' isn't usually viewed as an intrusion of privacy.

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 08:51 AM
nope. the police, asking me to move my car.

some truck driver took a wrong turn (or rather, didn't take a turn when he should've) and got stuck at the turn where my car was parked.

There you go. It could be the fuzz.

xyzzy
06-12-2010, 08:54 AM
Saying 'good morning' isn't usually viewed as an intrusion of privacy.

So?

Mikie
06-12-2010, 09:04 AM
No poofters.

No member of the faculty is to maltreat the "Abos" in any way whatsoever—if there's anyone watching.

No poofters.

I don't want to catch anyone not drinking in their room after lights out.

No poofters.

There is no... rule six.

No poofters.

Seeing this bit again made me happier than it had any right to. Nicely done.

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 09:07 AM
So?

So it's not analagous to an uninvited solicitation at my front door.

Thudpucker
06-12-2010, 09:07 AM
I live in a gated apartment complex. Only residents and invited guests are allowed in. There are also several signs clearly posted that say 'no soliciting'.

If someone choses to violate those community rules and solicit at my home anyway? I do not consider it rude to ignore someone like that.

Gunter
06-12-2010, 09:08 AM
I'll look out the window and if I don't know you then I'm not answering the door.

And I really don't care if they see me looking at the window or not.

Fuck them. My house!

Mikie
06-12-2010, 09:15 AM
I live in a gated apartment complex. Only residents and invited guests are allowed in. There are also several signs clearly posted that say 'no soliciting'.

If someone choses to violate those community rules and solicit at my home anyway? I do not consider it rude to ignore someone like that.

Eh...still justifying rude behavior. And no, their is no justifying the behavior of those showing up unannounced. But that doesn't give you license to act in such a manner in return.

However, if you don't care about being rude here then it doesn't matter how you act. "I probably shouldn't ignore him, but fuck it."

Thudpucker
06-12-2010, 09:30 AM
Eh...still justifying rude behavior. And no, their is no justifying the behavior of those showing up unannounced. But that doesn't give you license to act in such a manner in return.

However, if you don't care about being rude here then it doesn't matter how you act. "I probably shouldn't ignore him, but fuck it."

I'm someone who believes in 'no trespassing' signs. I won't chase trespassers off with a shotgun or sick my dogs on them but I won't greet them and offer hospitality either.

Being ignored is the absolute best thing a person intruding on my home can expect from me. If that's rude then you're right. I don't care about being rude.

xyzzy
06-12-2010, 09:31 AM
So it's not analagous to an uninvited solicitation at my front door.

First of all, you don't know it's a solicitation.

Second, it doesn't matter. No matter how rude the interruption, your response should always be polite.

Thudpucker
06-12-2010, 09:34 AM
First of all, you don't know it's a solicitation.

Second, it doesn't matter. No matter how rude the interruption, your response should always be polite.

Do you reply to spam e-mail?

xyzzy
06-12-2010, 09:35 AM
Do you reply to spam e-mail?

No, but those are automated. I also hang up on recorded messages.

I have replied to e-mail that wasn't intended for me to tell the sender that it wasn't going where they thought it was. Even though it was an intrusion and came unsolicited and took up my time, I did so because it was the polite thing to do and would want the same courtesy in return.

Similarly, if I happened to knock on some stranger's door because my car broke down or because I had the wrong address or whatever, I would hope that they had the common courtesy to speak with me, so I act accordingly when I'm on the inside and someone else is on the outside.

Ultimate Lurker
06-12-2010, 09:36 AM
I had a girl selling magazines say she lived a few streets over and was going on a school trip to Europe. One of the magazines was Playboy. Don't really see a public school fundraiser selling that, lol.

I usually answer the door. I did door to door sales for TruGreen for a little while, so if people are polite, I have no problem talking to them for a minute or two.

Ultimate Lurker
06-12-2010, 09:41 AM
I live in a gated apartment complex. Only residents and invited guests are allowed in. There are also several signs clearly posted that say 'no soliciting'.

If someone choses to violate those community rules and solicit at my home anyway? I do not consider it rude to ignore someone like that.

If my community had that, then I'd ask to see their solicitor's license (they can get them if the community grants it) and if they didn't have it, I'd tell them need to leave before I contact the authorities.

Magnum V.I.
06-12-2010, 10:11 AM
All you people make my job harder!!! :mad:

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 10:25 AM
All you people make my job harder!!! :mad:

That's what your whore of a mother said.

But when she said it is came out more as "mmmmhhhmmmurpmmmgggmmmp"

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 10:26 AM
First of all, you don't know it's a solicitation.

Second, it doesn't matter. No matter how rude the interruption, your response should always be polite.

Is it also rude to tell others how they must behave?

Roman Noodles
06-12-2010, 10:29 AM
I find that I spend most of my time knocking on other people's back doors . . . but hey, I'm nothing if not flexible. ;)

GelfXIII
06-12-2010, 10:39 AM
It would never occur to me NOT to answer the door.

Jason California
06-12-2010, 10:43 AM
Is it also rude to tell others how they must behave?


You tell him Steve Dave!

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 10:43 AM
It would never occur to me NOT to answer the door.

I just texted Merkin the Magnificent. He's on his way to your house.

GelfXIII
06-12-2010, 10:44 AM
I just texted Merkin the Magnificent. He's on his way to your house.

I have a sword, and I'm not afraid to use it. ;)

Magnum V.I.
06-12-2010, 10:52 AM
That's what your whore of a mother said.

But when she said it is came out more as "mmmmhhhmmmurpmmmgggmmmp"

:lol:ita

R0cketFr0g
06-12-2010, 10:53 AM
I have a sword, and I'm not afraid to use it. ;)

You're exactly what he's looking for then.

xyzzy
06-12-2010, 10:59 AM
Is it also rude to tell others how they must behave?

In most situations, yes. But here, it's been specifically solicited and we're having an open discussion about appropriate behavior. In fact, even if you're not telling someone how to behave, even pointing out rude behavior is itself rude.

tonym
06-12-2010, 02:09 PM
I have a bad habit of leaving my doors unlocked. If they really wanted to they could just come in.

The Cable Guy
06-12-2010, 03:54 PM
Hell no, my work, house, and personal cell phone ring constantly. The last thing I want is some jerk off to bother me at my house in my free time. It's always someone who wants to sell me something or convert me.

Mikie
06-12-2010, 06:13 PM
I'm someone who believes in 'no trespassing' signs. I won't chase trespassers off with a shotgun or sick my dogs on them but I won't greet them and offer hospitality either.

Being ignored is the absolute best thing a person intruding on my home can expect from me. If that's rude then you're right. I don't care about being rude.

Fair enough. :)

Ryan Elliott
06-12-2010, 06:52 PM
All this talk about religious people coming to the door reminds me of the three people from one of the churches my sister went to for a while.

Two ladies and an older guy came to the door and asked for my sister. They said they were from a church and that she hadn't been by in a while and were checking on her(creepy).

She didn't want to talk to them so I said she was in the shower, one lady asked me if I was going to church and all that crap and I said "nahh I'm not really into that kinda stuff" and she handed me a chick track knock-off after saying "well, take one of these and give a little thought about where you're going to go after you die." I smirked a little, took it and closed the door. Locking it with them still there.

I asked my sister if she wanted it, she said no, and I tore it up and threw it away.

oconnellmd
06-12-2010, 10:32 PM
All this talk about religious people coming to the door reminds me of the three people from one of the churches my sister went to for a while.

Two ladies and an older guy came to the door and asked for my sister. They said they were from a church and that she hadn't been by in a while and were checking on her(creepy).

She didn't want to talk to them so I said she was in the shower, one lady asked me if I was going to church and all that crap and I said "nahh I'm not really into that kinda stuff" and she handed me a chick track knock-off after saying "well, take one of these and give a little thought about where you're going to go after you die." I smirked a little, took it and closed the door. Locking it with them still there.

I asked my sister if she wanted it, she said no, and I tore it up and threw it away.

I hope you're still smirking in HELL, Elliot!! :-x

Ryan Elliott
06-12-2010, 10:35 PM
I hope you're still smirking in HELL, Elliot!! :-x


I totally will be.

We'll have metal. Heaven will have Backstreet Boys. :twisted:

S. Earl
06-12-2010, 10:56 PM
I live in a building that has a main door, and then a small hallway locked off that leads to a nearby dance studio (yup) and my loft only. My landlord owns both of these. The only person that can knock on my door that I wouldn't expect is my landlord.

So no, I don't answer because it means my rent is late.

King of Mars
06-13-2010, 06:19 PM
This question brings to mind an interesting situation from a few weeks ago. I had my son on the changing table in his room after he unleashed Hell in his diaper. I was in the process of cleaning him up when the front doorbell rang. For obvious reasons, I didn't rush to answer the door. The bell rang a couple more times and then, I heard the front door open and a guy said, "Hello? HELLO?!?" That led to this exchange...

Me, in a super-aggressive tone: "What can I do for you?!?"

Guy: "I rang the bell three times. No one answered."

Me: "THAT'S BECAUSE I'VE GOT A BABY ON THE FUCKING CHANGING TABLE!!!"

Guy: "Oh. Well...I'm Jessica's (my wife's) uncle."

:oops: Kinda embarassing...but it freaked me out to have someone I didn't know just open my door like that.

R0cketFr0g
06-13-2010, 06:28 PM
This question brings to mind an interesting situation from a few weeks ago. I had my son on the changing table in his room after he unleashed Hell in his diaper. I was in the process of cleaning him up when the front doorbell rang. For obvious reasons, I didn't rush to answer the door. The bell rang a couple more times and then, I heard the front door open and a guy said, "Hello? HELLO?!?" That led to this exchange...

Me, in a super-aggressive tone: "What can I do for you?!?"

Guy: "I rang the bell three times. No one answered."

Me: "THAT'S BECAUSE I'VE GOT A BABY ON THE FUCKING CHANGING TABLE!!!"

Guy: "Oh. Well...I'm Jessica's (my wife's) uncle."

:oops: Kinda embarassing...but it freaked me out to have someone I didn't know just open my door like that.

How the FUCK did someone just open your front door? Do you live in a land full of rainbows and lacking in deadbolts?

King of Mars
06-13-2010, 06:39 PM
How the FUCK did someone just open your front door? Do you live in a land full of rainbows and lacking in deadbolts?

You keep every door in your house locked, even when you're at home?

R0cketFr0g
06-13-2010, 06:43 PM
You keep every door in your house locked, even when you're at home?

Yeah pretty much.

Jason California
06-13-2010, 06:45 PM
I rarely lock the door when I am home.

King of Mars
06-13-2010, 06:46 PM
Yeah pretty much.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aIhh9nFYv4

;)

xyzzy
06-13-2010, 06:46 PM
Yeah pretty much.

That's kind of paranoid.

R0cketFr0g
06-13-2010, 06:49 PM
That's kind of paranoid.

:roll:

Whatever. So now you're telling me how I should keep my doors. You're full of "helpful" advice.

xyzzy
06-13-2010, 06:55 PM
:roll:

Whatever. So now you're telling me how I should keep my doors. You're full of "helpful" advice.

You're also very hostile to people who have different opinions than you.

(akaRyanHoffman)
06-13-2010, 07:16 PM
I'm not going to wake up to answer the front door, but if I happen to be walking by, I'll answer it. If it's an emergancy, they'll just turn the knob and come in and tell somebody what the fuck's up.

Jason California
06-13-2010, 07:18 PM
Who would be the perfect Benboer to play straight man to a Rocketfrog/WillieLee show?

Mikie
06-14-2010, 01:02 AM
Yeah pretty much.

I generally do the same. Hell, I deadbolt the door leading out to the garage every time and I live in a nice area.

Mikie
06-14-2010, 01:04 AM
You're also very hostile to people who have different opinions than you.

On this board? Get outta town!

Greygor
06-14-2010, 01:40 AM
I'm more likely not to answer my landline.

Everyone who knows me uses my mobile or e-mail. 99 times out of a 100 the call to the landline is a marketing guy who wants to know if I'm happy with my internet provider.

They can fuck right off.

Flonk
06-14-2010, 11:39 AM
I'm more likely not to answer my landline.

Everyone who knows me uses my mobile or e-mail. 99 times out of a 100 the call to the landline is a marketing guy who wants to know if I'm happy with my internet provider.

They can fuck right off.

Why on earth do you still have a land line?

The Dean
06-14-2010, 11:47 AM
I always check through the peephole first but I usually answer the door. I'm waiting for my Max Dugan.

R0cketFr0g
06-14-2010, 11:52 AM
You're also very hostile to people who have different opinions than you.

Let me repeat.

:roll:

You called me paranoid because I lock the doors to my home. This after you gave us all repeated lessons in your persona version of etiquette. I respond to you with an eye roll and call you on it, and I'm hostile?

You sir are ridiculous.

Bill Nolan
06-14-2010, 12:03 PM
Why on earth do you still have a land line?

The only reason I do is because I have young kids. It's an extra emergency contact number school people can use. And there's no way in hell I'm giving my cell number out to my kids' friends so they can use my phone to talk to each other.

R0cketFr0g
06-14-2010, 12:07 PM
The only reason I do is because I have young kids. It's an extra emergency contact number school people can use. And there's no way in hell I'm giving my cell number out to my kids' friends so they can use my phone to talk to each other.

Have you checked out MagicJack? I like to have a house line for basically the same reasons. We had gone to Vonage and it was fine, but we switched to the MagicJack a few months ago and it's good enough. And it costs less for a year than Vonage or a phone company line costs for a month. The only downside we found is you need to keep a computer running.

Bill Nolan
06-14-2010, 12:09 PM
I am also old, so I like having a regular land line. And it was the only one which worked during the multi-day power outage a couple of years ago.

xyzzy
06-14-2010, 10:55 PM
Let me repeat.

:roll:

You called me paranoid because I lock the doors to my home. This after you gave us all repeated lessons in your persona version of etiquette. I respond to you with an eye roll and call you on it, and I'm hostile?

You sir are ridiculous.

It's kind of weird that you think that discussing appropriate etiquette is hostile. I'm not even entirely sure what you're "calling" me on. You seem somewhat agitated.

King of Mars
06-14-2010, 11:01 PM
It would never occur to me NOT to answer the door.

Me, either. I'd be too worried that I was missing something important.

Jason California
06-14-2010, 11:21 PM
If I don't answer the door I am missing out on a lot of potential real life porn plot lines. Just like I am ready for the day I walk into the class room and find 2 female teachers having sex, I will be there the day a political canvaser is trying to get me to vote for her candidate, or any other number of possibilities.

Phantom Eagle
06-14-2010, 11:44 PM
The dog we have now goes completely batshit, so I usually ask who it is and what they want before I open it now. I can usually see who it is when they walk up to the house. If I am writing, fuck you, go away. If I am in a good mood and not busy, why hello, what an interesting pamphlet, God bless you and have a nice day too. Anyone else who might live here would be under strict orders to never open the door for any person that they do not actually know, on sight, no matter what that person says, or what uniform they are wearing. Leave the package on the doorstep. Stick the subpoena in the mailbox. Carry a cell phone. Get AAA. No, my dog will not stop barking. I bought cookies at work. Nobody reads magazines anymore. No, I don't want my lawn mowed, my roof thatched, my driveway black-topped or any cheap "mixed hardwoods" for the woodstove. Leave a flyer in the paper-box, we don't get the paper and no we don't want it.

I'd say it very much depends on where you live, where you lived in the past, what you consider your front door, what or whom you have to protect, what or whom is a real danger to you in your surroundings, and just how close you're willing to allow people you don't know to things you care about.

I lived in NYC. I basically lock everything all the time. What I learned in the city was that the predators look for a sign of weakness, or a place at which their approach would be made easy. The way to avoid trouble was to conscientiously lock everything and be on the alert at all times. Not out of paranoia. But because if you didn't, real human beings would take your shit, and do unnecessarily violent things to get it. Different aesthetics for different environments.

R0cketFr0g
06-15-2010, 04:02 PM
It's kind of weird that you think that discussing appropriate etiquette is hostile. I'm not even entirely sure what you're "calling" me on. You seem somewhat agitated.

You're the one who called me paranoid sport.

Ultimate Lurker
06-16-2010, 10:42 AM
My wife answered the door Monday and we ended up getting a home security system installed right then and there. We had been wanting one anyway.

Jason California
06-16-2010, 10:48 AM
It's kind of weird that you think that discussing appropriate etiquette is hostile. I'm not even entirely sure what you're "calling" me on. You seem somewhat agitated.


It is also kind of weird when someone takes another's obviously outlandish talk seriously and causes them to have to stay in character in order to see how long you will keep doing it.

Kedd
06-16-2010, 10:58 AM
I think it's awesome that a guy has knocked on your door and asked yo nuke some ravioli. :)

R0cketFr0g
06-16-2010, 05:05 PM
It is also kind of weird when someone takes another's obviously outlandish talk seriously and causes them to have to stay in character in order to see how long you will keep doing it.

It's also funny when somebody falls in a hole.

MayorMitch100
06-16-2010, 05:09 PM
It's also funny when somebody falls in a hole.

or a hermit crab in a glass shell.

R0cketFr0g
06-16-2010, 05:14 PM
or a hermit crab in a glass shell.

Would you answer your front door for HCIAGS?

Andreas
06-16-2010, 06:08 PM
I rarely lock the door when I am home.

It takes a pro (sans key) two seconds to open an unlocked door. I don't know about you, but this is longer than it takes for me to get to the door.

It was either locking the door twice or a spring gun. Guess what I chose. :)

Jason California
06-16-2010, 06:24 PM
It takes a pro (sans key) two seconds to open an unlocked door. I don't know about you, but this is longer than it takes for me to get to the door.

It was either locking the door twice or a spring gun. Guess what I chose. :)


I have the guest house on the property I live at. Sometimes I don't even close my door all the way. My back door is completely open most of the time with only the metal gate door closed and locked. I am not normally too worried about these things.

R0cketFr0g
06-16-2010, 06:25 PM
My back door is completely open most of the time. I am not normally too worried about these things.

Manwhore!!!

Jason California
06-16-2010, 06:29 PM
Manwhore!!!


I am not a sexist. Just say whore.

R0cketFr0g
06-16-2010, 06:31 PM
I am not a sexist. Just say whore.

Perhaps I'm a sexist. Have you considered that, whore?

Jason California
06-16-2010, 06:40 PM
Perhaps I'm a sexist. Have you considered that, whore?


It is the modern era dude. Get with the program. Women can be just as good at being a whore as men. I am no better at it just because I am a guy.

R0cketFr0g
06-16-2010, 06:41 PM
It is the modern era dude. Get with the program. Women can be just as good at being a whore as men. I am no better at it just because I am a guy.

Well fuck my buggy and call me English!

Jason California
06-16-2010, 06:52 PM
Well fuck my buggy and call me English!


I am just glad I could help open your mind on this one.

R0cketFr0g
06-16-2010, 06:54 PM
I am just glad I could help open your mind on this one.

You opened more than my mind fancy pants.

Masculine Todd
06-16-2010, 07:13 PM
How else will I be sued? You can't serve a door! C'mon!