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Kefky
06-06-2010, 12:25 PM
It's been a while since the last one, and I miss it.


Led Zeppelin's debut is their masterpiece, and they never managed to top it.

MAK15
06-06-2010, 12:27 PM
I didn't like Blackest Night.
I thought the art wasn't that great, and the ending not giving me a solid conclusion, leaving a lot of things still up in the air

Shane W
06-06-2010, 12:28 PM
No one actually likes Led Zeppelin, The Who, or Pink Floyd. They just think they have to like them to look cool.

jamestolliver
06-06-2010, 12:31 PM
Dark Side of the Moon is incredibly over rated.

Kefky
06-06-2010, 12:33 PM
No one actually likes Led Zeppelin, The Who, or Pink Floyd. They just think they have to like them to look cool.

:shock:



:shifty:

Urgur the Gurgur
06-06-2010, 12:35 PM
Comics need the code.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 12:38 PM
Do matters of taste/preference constitute as "unpopular opinions?" I'm just curious. It's a question that came up in the last thread.

Shane W
06-06-2010, 12:40 PM
Do matters of taste/preference constitute as "unpopular opinions?" I'm just curious. It's a question that came up in the last thread.

Does this really require instructions?

Andrew
06-06-2010, 12:41 PM
No one actually likes Led Zeppelin, The Who, or Pink Floyd. They just think they have to like them to look cool.

That's just flat-out wrong.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 12:41 PM
Does this really require instructions?

Oh, you're being that guy. Cool.

Kefky
06-06-2010, 12:42 PM
You can say whatever the hell you want in my thread.

The Hodag
06-06-2010, 12:43 PM
Do matters of taste/preference constitute as "unpopular opinions?" I'm just curious. It's a question that came up in the last thread.

I don't quite understand the question. What are tastes and preferences but opinions?

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 12:44 PM
You can say whatever the hell you want in my thread.

I was just curious. In the last thread, a few people (myself included) would mention how they didn't care for something universally renowned, which would be met with "that's not an unpopular opinion, it's just a question of taste."

Shane W
06-06-2010, 12:45 PM
That's just flat-out wrong.

Prove it.

Shane W
06-06-2010, 12:45 PM
I don't quite understand the question. What are tastes and preferences but opinions?


Now YOU'RE being that guy!

Shane W
06-06-2010, 12:46 PM
I was just curious. In the last thread, a few people (myself included) would mention how they didn't care for something universally renowned, which would be met with "that's not an unpopular opinion, it's just a question of taste."

Well, those people are retarded.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 12:46 PM
I don't quite understand the question. What are tastes and preferences but opinions?

That's kinda what I thought from the last discussion.

I guess the debate was something to the effect of: "I don't like (just for an easy example) Watchman." The person didn't say Watchman was of poor quality, simply that they didn't like it. This was met with "that's not an unpopular opinion. You didn't mention that it wasn't good, which would be unpopular. Instead, you simply stated that you didn't care for it."

Shane W
06-06-2010, 12:47 PM
Joss Whedon is just an average talent.

Shane W
06-06-2010, 12:50 PM
The GN Blankets is self-indulgent bullshit.

Ryan_ZOOM_Turner
06-06-2010, 12:50 PM
No one actually likes Led Zeppelin, The Who, or Pink Floyd. They just think they have to like them to look cool.

I don't like any of those bands.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 12:51 PM
Personally, I don't think anyone looks good in sweatpants.

Shane W
06-06-2010, 12:51 PM
The Godfather movies suck. That's right, they suck.

Sarcoidosis
06-06-2010, 12:54 PM
We shouldn't have bailed out the banks, auto industry, or anything else.

Note: May actually count as a popular opinion in some areas of the United States...

The Hodag
06-06-2010, 12:54 PM
That's kinda what I thought from the last discussion.

I guess the debate was something to the effect of: "I don't like (just for an easy example) Watchman." The person didn't say Watchman was of poor quality, simply that they didn't like it. This was met with "that's not an unpopular opinion. You didn't mention that it wasn't good, which would be unpopular. Instead, you simply stated that you didn't care for it."

Yeah, that's splitting hairs. Sticking with the example, Watchmen's pretty universally beloved. Whether you dislike it because you thought it was boring or because you thought it was genuinely inept...you're bucking its universal belovedness.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 12:54 PM
I didn't like Blackest Night.
I thought the art wasn't that great, and the ending not giving me a solid conclusion, leaving a lot of things still up in the air

I'm trade waiting, and this is the first bit of disappointment I've read about it so far (admittedly, I haven't done my homework on the subject). Did the ending (without getting too spoilerish) act like most crossovers in the last few years by leaving things "up in the air" to establish a new status quo to build their titles on, or was it plot holes that just didn't get resolution?

Shane W
06-06-2010, 12:55 PM
Bill Hicks is over rated and the exact opposite of funny.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 12:56 PM
Yeah, that's splitting hairs. Sticking with the example, Watchmen's pretty universally beloved. Whether you dislike it because you thought it was boring or because you thought it was genuinely inept...you're bucking its universal belovedness.

I kinda thought it was much ado about nothing, but I wasn't sure if that debate would spark again or not.

Ryan_ZOOM_Turner
06-06-2010, 12:56 PM
Fantastic Mr. Fox was an okay movie at best and I feel asleep during it the first time I saw it.

Foolish Mortal
06-06-2010, 12:57 PM
Howard Stern: Still not funny.

Shane W
06-06-2010, 12:57 PM
Fantastic Mr. Fox was an okay movie at best and I feel asleep during it the first time I saw it.


Wait, is it your opinion that you fell asleep?

Ryan_ZOOM_Turner
06-06-2010, 12:57 PM
Wait, is it your opinion that you fell asleep?

It put me to sleep in the movie theatre.

Ryan_ZOOM_Turner
06-06-2010, 12:58 PM
Six Feet Under is better than The Wire.

Kefky
06-06-2010, 12:59 PM
Motivational ads will never, ever be funny.

Kefky
06-06-2010, 01:00 PM
Haiku jokes are bad news.

MAK15
06-06-2010, 01:00 PM
I'm trade waiting, and this is the first bit of disappointment I've read about it so far (admittedly, I haven't done my homework on the subject). Did the ending (without getting too spoilerish) act like most crossovers in the last few years by leaving things "up in the air" to establish a new status quo to build their titles on, or was it plot holes that just didn't get resolution?

lack of resolution is what made me not like the ending.
Civil War at least gave us a resolution, with new status quo for comics to follow.
same with Infinite Crisis

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 01:01 PM
Chuck Austen's first two arcs on Uncanny X-Men were good.

Kefky
06-06-2010, 01:01 PM
That reminds me, Civil war was only good as a comedy.

Foolish Mortal
06-06-2010, 01:01 PM
Sarah Michelle Geller: The weakest actor on Buffy, and most annoying character on the show.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 01:03 PM
Indie can't be a genre of music.

jason hissong
06-06-2010, 01:05 PM
The Busiek/Perez Avengers run wasn't so good. And while I love Avengers Forever, it's also everything I hate about superhero comics.

Foolish Mortal
06-06-2010, 01:05 PM
I liked the Star Wars prequels. Especially Revenge of the Sith.

Ryan_ZOOM_Turner
06-06-2010, 01:07 PM
U2 fucking sucks and so does Green Day and Aerosmith.

CapnChaos
06-06-2010, 01:09 PM
Sarah Michelle Geller: The weakest actor on Buffy, and most annoying character on the show.

Someone forgot about Andrew...

*ahem* Anyway... Based on the legislation that goes into effect in Kansas next month...
If you don't like it when a restaurant or bar allows smoking, then just don't go. Don't be one of those overbearing douches that goes whining about it to politicians until they take away the right of the owners to determine if they want to allow it or not.

Foolish Mortal
06-06-2010, 01:10 PM
The Sentry was a great character who was presented in a very unique way.

But people couldn't get their panties untwisted about him because "He raped my continuity!!!"

And also, Bendis mishandled him.

CapnChaos
06-06-2010, 01:11 PM
Frank Miller's Batman work is overrated at the very least.

MAK15
06-06-2010, 01:12 PM
Linkin Park, The White Stripes, The Vines, The Hives, Eminem, Limp Bizkit, the Strokes and POD suck

MAK15
06-06-2010, 01:13 PM
The Sentry was a great character who was presented in a very unique way.

But people couldn't get their panties untwisted about him because "He raped my continuity!!!"

And also, Bendis mishandled him.

seconded

EasyE726
06-06-2010, 01:14 PM
My balls itch.

Andrew
06-06-2010, 01:20 PM
Sarah Michelle Geller: The weakest actor on Buffy, and most annoying character on the show.

Truth.

RegularJoe
06-06-2010, 01:22 PM
the only decent super-hero comics that grant morrison has ever writteen are his JLA books. everything else has been mediocre at best.

CapnChaos
06-06-2010, 01:28 PM
the only decent super-hero comics that grant morrison has ever writteen are his JLA books. everything else has been mediocre at best.

I liked 7 Soldiers, but I'm inclined to agree.

shoelaceless
06-06-2010, 01:32 PM
Robot Chicken is a terrible show that panders to idiots.

Strikeout
06-06-2010, 01:33 PM
Howard Stern: Still not funny.

Yes!

Kefky
06-06-2010, 01:37 PM
There really isn't much of a difference between the old hollywood and the new hollywood as people like to think there is. There were just as much shallow, soulless and derivative drivel as there is today. The REALLY worthwhile movies were made by the guys who were either ahead of their time, or worked within the system while refusing to follow all the dumb trends. Arguing that old movies had more "class" because people dressed better and didn't swear is ridiculous.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 01:39 PM
Sarah Michelle Geller: The weakest actor on Buffy, and most annoying character on the show.

I agree with this.

Kefky
06-06-2010, 01:40 PM
Akira Kurosawa's probably always going to be remembered for the samurai flicks, but his REAL masterpieces were the contemporary dramas.

Kefky
06-06-2010, 01:43 PM
3D games are not inferior to 2D games, that's just your nostalgia talking.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 01:44 PM
Judd Winick's two year run on Batman with Doug Mahnke (Under the Hood) was one of the best the title's ever had.

MAK15
06-06-2010, 01:47 PM
R. Crumb is a neurotic little wimp

CougarTrace
06-06-2010, 01:59 PM
with the exception of a couple of movies, Tarantino movies aren't worth watching

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:01 PM
I liked the Star Wars prequels. Especially Revenge of the Sith.

Second

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:02 PM
with the exception of a couple of movies, Tarantino movies aren't worth watching

Thank God someone finally said it!

Kefky
06-06-2010, 02:02 PM
Chuckefuck comedies like the Hangover and Pineapple Express are the worst.

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:05 PM
I hate what they did to Spider-Man with BND and did what oter couldn't...voted with my dollar and dropped the shit like it was hot. And because of this I know find 616 Peter Parker to be a complete asshole and tool and dislike the character whenever he's not written by Bendis in the Avengers. And yea, I've read about 4 issues since and except for the Bendis back-up in 602, was extremly bored by it.

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:06 PM
Chuckefuck comedies like the Hangover and Pineapple Express are the worst.

Agreed. Add Knocked-Up, the most unfunny movie I've ever seen, to that list.

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:07 PM
I didn't not pay to see it, but I wanted my money back after seeing Borat. It was a piece of shit.

Kefky
06-06-2010, 02:07 PM
Chuckefuck comedies like the Hangover and Pineapple Express are the worst.

This includes anything by Judd Aptow, btw.

Ray G.
06-06-2010, 02:10 PM
I hate what they did to Spider-Man with BND and did what oter couldn't...voted with my dollar and dropped the shit like it was hot. And because of this I know find 616 Peter Parker to be a complete asshole and tool and dislike the character whenever he's not written by Bendis in the Avengers. And yea, I've read about 4 issues since and except for the Bendis back-up in 602, was extremly bored by it.

You're not the only one.

616 Spider-man is a disgrace, except when written by Bendis.

USM has been my Spider-canon for years now, but especially since BND.

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:11 PM
This includes anything by Judd Aptow, btw.

So far the only exceptions I've found are 40 year old virgin and Superbad. Those are genuinly funny movie with great and relatable characters. Most apatow movies, it seem, is about assholes being assholes

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:12 PM
You're not the only one.

616 Spider-man is a disgrace, except when written by Bendis.

USM has been my Spider-canon for years now, but especially since BND.

I'm so thankful to hear somebody else say that. It seems like on all the podcasts I listen the dog on JMS run and elevate the disgrace that is BND. I swear I could hug you...but I won't.

Ray G.
06-06-2010, 02:13 PM
Lost COMPLETELY fell apart in its last season, and should ultimately be regarded as a failed experiment.

Meanwhile, 24 managed to end on a spectacular high note, and ended as the better series.

Kedd
06-06-2010, 02:14 PM
Obama will be a mediocre president at best.

MAK15
06-06-2010, 02:15 PM
I don't like how Bendi's avengers started out AWESOME but then degraded to a buncha capes sitting around the table discussing who they dated and how the man's against them.
I'm hoping that the new batch of avengers is great, but I don't think I'll give it a chance.

Also: comics are too fucking expensive. I think Diamond is too blame

Basketball Jesus
06-06-2010, 02:15 PM
There's no bigger percentage of idiots or jerks in a fraternity house than there is in any random sampling of college dudes.

Ray G.
06-06-2010, 02:15 PM
Magneto has done FAR more good for Mutantkind than the simpering Charles Xavier ever did.

It's not a coincidence that Cyclops only started succeeding when he began embracing his tactics.

Ray G.
06-06-2010, 02:17 PM
The Harry Potter books got worse as they got bigger and more "mature", not better.

Kedd
06-06-2010, 02:17 PM
M Day was the absolute worse thing that could have happened to the mutants in Marvel.

Ray G.
06-06-2010, 02:18 PM
M Day was the absolute worse thing that could have happened to the mutants in Marvel.

Oh, God, fucking THIS.

I love House of M. It's hands down my favorite Marvel event. But I despise that ending and everything that spun out of it.

Kedd
06-06-2010, 02:18 PM
Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job =/=Good or entertaining.

MAK15
06-06-2010, 02:18 PM
M Day was the absolute worse thing that could have happened to the mutants in Marvel.

well, no shit.
leaving only 200 mutants alive out of millions is pretty bad

Kedd
06-06-2010, 02:19 PM
Oh, God, fucking THIS.

I love House of M. It's hands down my favorite Marvel event. But I despise that ending and everything that spun out of it.

It completely killed my desire to read the X-books. Part of the appeal to me was knowing that there would always be new mutants coming into and out of the world.

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:21 PM
Since the end of Morrison's run, the X-Men books have been steadily going downhill. And Whedon's run, while good, was highly over rated.

Kedd
06-06-2010, 02:21 PM
I found Preacher boring.

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:23 PM
South park is lazy writting that goes for the easy joke. And Family Guy's lost it. Completely.

shoelaceless
06-06-2010, 02:23 PM
Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job =/=Good or entertaining.

When did disliking Tim and Eric become the unpopular stance?

MAK15
06-06-2010, 02:24 PM
Superman is a lame hero.
Mary Marvel was awesome as a villain in street walking whore attire.
Deadpool is overrated and overused in comics

Kedd
06-06-2010, 02:25 PM
When did disliking Tim and Eric become the unpopular stance?

I hang out with a lot of hipsters. They swear by that show. And speaking of hipsters. Pabst tastes like goat piss.

Foolish Mortal
06-06-2010, 02:26 PM
Civil War had a lame anti-climatic ending.

Kefky
06-06-2010, 02:26 PM
Jews are an okay bunch of guys.

shoelaceless
06-06-2010, 02:27 PM
I hang out with a lot of hipsters. They swear by that show. And speaking of hipsters. Pabst tastes like goat piss.

Don't get me wrong, I think Tim and Eric is the shit. But it's clearly not for everyone.

Kedd
06-06-2010, 02:29 PM
Religion is not the cause of any of the world's problems. People are the cause of all of the world's problems.

GrandeMaestro Fünke
06-06-2010, 02:29 PM
I still love Kanye. Also liked 808 and the Heartbreakers, although it was his weakest album.

MAK15
06-06-2010, 02:31 PM
Invincible is Lame
Marvel Zombies should've ended after the first mini-series

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:31 PM
You can be religious and not an asshole, and Catholic and not a pedophile.

Joe Kalicki
06-06-2010, 02:32 PM
The new first issue of Avengers was awful with terrible art.

JEK
06-06-2010, 02:32 PM
I liked the Star Wars prequels. Especially Revenge of the Sith.

I actually like them MORE then the originals (and I'm in my 30's)

Kedd
06-06-2010, 02:33 PM
Invincible is Lame
Marvel Zombies should've ended after the first mini-series

Agreed and Agreed. The Walking Dead is the only readable thing Kirkman has ever put out and that's only barely there.

GrandeMaestro Fünke
06-06-2010, 02:33 PM
I hang out with a lot of hipsters. They swear by that show. And speaking of hipsters. Pabst tastes like goat piss.

Yup. It's only good if you're already really drunk.

GelfXIII
06-06-2010, 02:33 PM
No one actually likes Led Zeppelin, The Who, or Pink Floyd. They just think they have to like them to look cool.

This is not unpopular, because no sane person would think this. It's just crazy talk. crazy talk I say.

Kedd
06-06-2010, 02:34 PM
Megan Fox isn't attractive.

Kedd
06-06-2010, 02:35 PM
I like a single Spider-Man in the 616. But I'm not interested in reading spidey books these days.

Kefky
06-06-2010, 02:35 PM
The new first issue of Avengers terrible art.

That reminds me.

Somebody PLEASE keep Klaus Janson away from comics that are not of the "gritty noir" genre because his art is completely unfit for anything else.

Kedd
06-06-2010, 02:37 PM
Sarah Palin is smarter than any liberal wants to admit.

Foolish Mortal
06-06-2010, 02:37 PM
The Israeli government's policies sometimes border on paranoid autocracy.

Too bad past and present American presidents are too scared to say it.

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:38 PM
Bill Sienkwicze (or however the hell you spell it) is a terrible artist. And so is Ashley Wood. Rust is not a color dammit!!!

Foolish Mortal
06-06-2010, 02:38 PM
Megan Fox isn't attractive.
Agreed 100%.

Basketball Jesus
06-06-2010, 02:39 PM
A socialist democracy only works with a very restrictive immigration policy.

GelfXIII
06-06-2010, 02:40 PM
Megan Fox isn't attractive.

Megan Fox is less attractive than Sasha Grey

batroc the leaper
06-06-2010, 02:40 PM
Bill Sienkwicze (or however the hell you spell it) is a terrible artist. And so is Ashley Wood. Rust is not a color dammit!!!

I think that he is a brilliant artist, but I agree that he is not an artist that I want to read comics by. I can hardly follow anything on the page by him.

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:40 PM
Socialism is NOT a bad idea.

jamestolliver
06-06-2010, 02:41 PM
Brubaker's Captain America has, for a few months now, been only okay. I hope it returns to its former glory.

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 02:41 PM
Megan Fox isn't attractive.

I would still do her, i cannot lie

Joe Kalicki
06-06-2010, 02:43 PM
Dating a friend's exes or an ex's friends is not a big deal and if you have a problem with it you need to grow up.

cmoney
06-06-2010, 02:45 PM
Almost nothing is ever as good or as bad as people make it out to be. Therefore, nearly every opinion in this thread is wrong.

Andrew
06-06-2010, 02:45 PM
I'm so thankful to hear somebody else say that. It seems like on all the podcasts I listen the dog on JMS run and elevate the disgrace that is BND. I swear I could hug you...but I won't.

Yeah, 616 Spider-Man fucking sucks these days.

Joe Kalicki
06-06-2010, 02:47 PM
JMS' Spider-Man is the worst run on the character of all time.

shoelaceless
06-06-2010, 02:48 PM
Computer animation is ugly in general.

Webcomics about video games are stupid.

GelfXIII
06-06-2010, 02:50 PM
Post-fender buy out Gretsch guitars are every bit as good as the pre-buy out ones.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 02:50 PM
This includes anything by Judd Aptow, btw.

Anchorman is pretty funny, but I'm not a fan of the rest of them myself.


There's no bigger percentage of idiots or jerks in a fraternity house than there is in any random sampling of college dudes.

Absolutely correct.


M Day was the absolute worse thing that could have happened to the mutants in Marvel.

Among the myriad problems is the fact that there's already nearly 200 X-Men and ancillary X-Characters who weren't depowered and have shown up in the books since, let alone the problem it presents is the fact that you can't really introduce any new mutant characters. Sure, they could have maintained their powers and have never been debuted until the story they're introduced, but again, there's already something like 200 X-Characters in existence. Logistically, it's problematic.

Foolish Mortal
06-06-2010, 02:53 PM
Dating a friend's exes or an ex's friends is not a big deal and if you have a problem with it you need to grow up.
I don't think it's that cut and dry.

If the break-up between the two was amicable, then fine.

If the break-up was ugly and painful, you're putting your friend in a horribly awkward position for when you all hang out together, there will be that person that did your friend wrong.

Joe Kalicki
06-06-2010, 02:54 PM
I don't think it's that cut and dry.

If the break-up between the two was amicable, then fine.

If the break-up was ugly and painful, you're putting your friend in a horribly awkward position for when you all hang out together, there will be that person that did your friend wrong.

There's a lot of awkward positions someone can be in. Deal with it.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 02:55 PM
JMS' run was the best Spidey I ever read until the Sin's Past arc. I loved married Peter, and I'm the demo that they're trying to appeal to/keep Spidey aged at (23).

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 02:59 PM
Almost nothing is ever as good or as bad as people make it out to be. Therefore, nearly every opinion in this thread is wrong.

Then how is the quality of something determined?

Andrew
06-06-2010, 03:10 PM
Anyone who honestly believes that aging Spider-Man a bit made him "inaccessible to new readers" is deluding themselves, and furthermore, the attempts to make him seem younger with OMD/BND have not only done nothing to make him more accessible, it's turned the character into a joke.

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 03:22 PM
JMS' run was the best Spidey I ever read until the Sin's Past arc. I loved married Peter, and I'm the demo that they're trying to appeal to/keep Spidey aged at (23).

And that sins past story was heavily controlled by editorial, so I tend to ignore it. And even then it didn't really bother me that much.

Basketball Jesus
06-06-2010, 03:25 PM
Luke Cage has been kind of a disappointing character since his reimagining.

RyanP
06-06-2010, 03:34 PM
Late night talk shows aren't funny.

RegularJoe
06-06-2010, 03:39 PM
these threads always start off as nice vent points but seem to become a point of "what outrageous thing can i saw" before too long.

dougmac
06-06-2010, 03:40 PM
JMS' run was the best Spidey I ever read until the Sin's Past arc. I loved married Peter, and I'm the demo that they're trying to appeal to/keep Spidey aged at (23).

Anyone who honestly believes that aging Spider-Man a bit made him "inaccessible to new readers" is deluding themselves, and furthermore, the attempts to make him seem younger with OMD/BND have not only done nothing to make him more accessible, it's turned the character into a joke.

I don't think that is a very unpopular opinion, especially around this board

cmoney
06-06-2010, 03:42 PM
Then how is the quality of something determined?

I don't know that it ever really is, objectively. I guess everyone gets to decide for themselves how meaningful they think anyone's subjective judgment on matters of art/entertainment might be. There can be strong critical consensus, but you'll always find an educated critic to disagree with that too. So you just pick a side and try to maintain consistency in your criteria, I guess.

JEK
06-06-2010, 03:47 PM
well, no shit.
leaving only 200 mutants alive out of millions is pretty bad

And it totally ruins the whole reason for humans to hate mutants, when the mutants were gonna take over the fear made since, now it's just vindictive

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 03:50 PM
I don't know that it ever really is, objectively. I guess everyone gets to decide for themselves how meaningful they think anyone's subjective judgment on matters of art/entertainment might be. There can be strong critical consensus, but you'll always find an educated critic to disagree with that too. So you just pick a side and try to maintain consistency in your criteria, I guess.

I agree with this entirely. Objectivity is a criteria that's as subjective as any other valued system of evaluation, especially in relation to art. And this may be nothing but semantics, but that's why I was confused about your initial post.

Given how relative appreciation of art can be, "almost nothing is ever as good or as bad as people make it out to be" implies that there is an objective form of gauging quality that subjective enjoyment is neither "as good" or "as bad" as it really is as it pertains to the 'actual quality.' I don't agree with that. Art impacts something greater than the individual by consensus, but quality is what it is by perspective.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 03:52 PM
I don't think that is a very unpopular opinion, especially around this board

I think there's a large number of people who prefer the BND Spidey, and they've been vocal here, which is there prerogative. I, myself, aren't one of them (but then, I only base that off the first storyarc by Slott/McNiven, so I'm rather ignorant to the quality of the book/story. I just know I loved the stories JMS wrote revolving around MJ and Peter as a married unit).

cmoney
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
I agree with this entirely. Objectivity is a criteria that's as subjective as any other valued system of evaluation, especially in relation to art. And this may be nothing but semantics, but that's why I was confused about your initial post.

Given how relative appreciation of art can be, "almost nothing is ever as good or as bad as people make it out to be" implies that there is an objective form of gauging quality that subjective enjoyment is neither "as good" or "as bad" as it really is as it pertains to the 'actual quality.' I don't agree with that. Art impacts something greater than the individual by consensus, but quality is what it is by perspective.

I'm quite guilty of typing the initial post off-the-cuff and without much thought as to how it might be interpreted.

stevapalooza
06-06-2010, 04:21 PM
That woman who claims she was fired for being too hot isn't THAT hot.

batmanbooyah
06-06-2010, 04:39 PM
stevapalooza is a nice guy and i value him as a friend, and human.

Alex(sadly)Maleev
06-06-2010, 04:42 PM
Bill Sienkwicze (or however the hell you spell it) is a terrible artist. And so is Ashley Wood. Rust is not a color dammit!!!

Clueless.;)

R0cketFr0g
06-06-2010, 04:56 PM
Jesus Shuttlesworth > Jesus Christ

SighClops
06-06-2010, 04:59 PM
Ultimate Power wasn't half bad, Nextwave is overrated, Teagan Presley was hotter before she got all that plastic surgery.

Caley Tibbittz
06-06-2010, 05:01 PM
U2 is the greatest rock band of all the rock bands, and their last album was among their best.

R0cketFr0g
06-06-2010, 05:16 PM
Teagan Presley was hotter before she got all that plastic surgery.

Isn't this commonly accepted wisdom?

jason hissong
06-06-2010, 05:17 PM
U2 is the greatest rock band of all the rock bands, and their last album was among their best.

How is that an unpopular opinion?

SighClops
06-06-2010, 05:25 PM
Isn't this commonly accepted wisdom?

I couldn't be too sure since I don't really frequent porno message boards. I mean, I assumed most guys would go for the blonde chick with a nicer chest over the mousy-looking girl with a big nose.

jamestolliver
06-06-2010, 05:54 PM
I like Fake Pat. He's cool.

jason hissong
06-06-2010, 05:55 PM
I like Fake Pat. He's cool.

The man tells it like it is most of the time.

cmoney
06-06-2010, 05:55 PM
I like Fake Pat. He's cool.

I do too.

Ray G.
06-06-2010, 06:20 PM
I like Fake Pat. He's cool.

I can't say I like him all the time (most of the time, though), but I definitely respect his consistency. He's a guy with very strong opinions, and he sticks by them. And he's not overtly insulting like a few people.

jason hissong
06-06-2010, 06:24 PM
I can't say I like him all the time (most of the time, though), but I definitely respect his consistency. He's a guy with very strong opinions, and he sticks by them. And he's not overtly insulting like a few people.

Yes. This.

Masculine Todd
06-06-2010, 06:32 PM
Ultimate Power wasn't half bad.

Yeah, it was disjointed between the three different writers, but it was a fun read.

stevapalooza
06-06-2010, 06:46 PM
stevapalooza is a nice guy and i value him as a friend, and human.

Am I better than five Terminators?

SighClops
06-06-2010, 07:02 PM
Yeah, it was disjointed between the three different writers, but it was a fun read.

Agreed. They were definitely writing three different stories, but yeah, a fun read. Loeb actually writes a pretty decent Spider-Man, too.

Also, Last Action Hero is one of Schwarzenegger's best movies.

Fake Pat
06-06-2010, 07:29 PM
Now that everyone's talking about how great I am, does my self-loathing now qualify as an unpopular opinion?

jamestolliver
06-06-2010, 07:33 PM
Now that everyone's talking about how great I am, does my self-loathing now qualify as an unpopular opinion?

What does logic tell you?

Fake Pat
06-06-2010, 07:34 PM
What does logic tell you?

This is like asking a robot to explain love.

IF YOU LIKED ME YOU WOULDN'T WANT MY HEAD TO EXPLODE

cmoney
06-06-2010, 07:35 PM
I loved the "Feral" arc of Sensational Spider-Man.

jamestolliver
06-06-2010, 07:36 PM
This is like asking a robot to explain love.

IF YOU LIKED ME YOU WOULDN'T WANT MY HEAD TO EXPLODE

Maybe I just like you from the neck down. :heybaby:

Fake Pat
06-06-2010, 07:36 PM
Ultimatum isn't crappier than most mainstream comics.

batmanbooyah
06-06-2010, 08:01 PM
Am I better than five Terminators?

fuck you, no.

Bervda
06-06-2010, 08:05 PM
I couldn't be too sure since I don't really frequent porno message boards. I mean, I assumed most guys would go for the blonde chick with a nicer chest over the mousy-looking girl with a big nose.

I've never been to a porn board, but I do have the opinion that you assume most would have.

SighClops
06-06-2010, 08:11 PM
I've never been to a porn board, but I do have the opinion that you assume most would have.

I'm confused.

GrandeMaestro Fünke
06-06-2010, 08:19 PM
M Day was the absolute worse thing that could have happened to the mutants in Marvel.

Yup. It totally destroyed the Mutant culture that Morrison had built.

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 08:28 PM
Ultimate Power wasn't half bad, Nextwave is overrated, Teagan Presley was hotter before she got all that plastic surgery.

Definatly before she got the arm tattoo...which leads to another gripe I suppose...tattoos, especially on women, only make them less attractive. It's like yea, you have amazing and beautiful skin, let's cover is up with permanent ink! Ich gross.

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 08:35 PM
The beatles seem kinda average and I think people who take drugs recreationaly are kind of annoying,

John Drake
06-06-2010, 09:02 PM
I like Fake Pat. He's cool.

He's a great dude.

woljed
06-06-2010, 09:11 PM
I hate comments like "he has been a disgrace unless written by <INSERT FAVORITE WRITER!>."

mikeandzod87
06-06-2010, 10:08 PM
I find Kirsten Stewart really attractive. And Kat Dennings.

danlomb
06-06-2010, 10:17 PM
While I fully comprehend and don't agree with his practices, I find that Greg Land's work on Uncanny X-Men is a match made in heaven, as Fraction knows how to write for him, and really sells the soap-drama-ensemble book.

ernster
06-06-2010, 11:12 PM
the world would be better off without religion.

frzamonkey
06-07-2010, 02:10 AM
Sarah Palin is smarter than any liberal wants to admit.

smarter than most conservatives? not a very high bar.

Mister Mets
06-07-2010, 03:07 AM
Marvel and DC writers are borrowing the characters from their eventual successors, rather than inheriting the characters from their predecessors.

McCain was the best General Election candidate of the last fifty years. Shame he didn't win.

The majority of attacks against Sarah Palin have been unfair, and help obscure the legitimate objections to her positions.

The Burton Batman films were pretty lousy.

The Lizard is the best Spider-Man villain.

J Jonah Jameson is the best supporting character in serial fiction.

Mark Millar's one of the ten best comic book writers. His Spider-Man run was pretty damn good. Civil War was also pretty good.

Elvis's "In the Ghetto" is one of the best songs ever.

John Roberts is an excellent Chief Justice.

Retconning the spider-marriage was the best solution.

Inglorious Basterds should have won Best Picture and Best Director.

frzamonkey
06-07-2010, 03:35 AM
McCain was the best General Election candidate of the last fifty years. Shame he didn't win.

The majority of attacks against Sarah Palin have been unfair, and help obscure the legitimate objections to her positions.



McCain is a old,spineless dingleberry. (his flip-flops on immigration and gay marriage are 2 glaring examples) Having palin a heartbeat away from the presidency is a truly frightening proposition. I think "she is a stupid redneck" is a legitimate objection.

Big McLargeHuge
06-07-2010, 04:16 AM
Despite all the talent involved, Scott Pilgrim looks like it's going to blow...HARD!

hamgravy
06-07-2010, 05:15 AM
Despite all the talent involved, Scott Pilgrim looks like it's going to blow...HARD!

I think you meant to post this in the "popular speculation" thread.

Everyone seems to want to be the first to say that a movie they haven't seen is going to bomb or be terrible.

SighClops
06-07-2010, 05:47 AM
The Long Halloween, after multiple readings, doesn't hold up. The twist at the end doesn't feel clever or intriguing, just lazy.

The art sure is pretty, though.

BronxRonin
06-07-2010, 06:09 AM
Defending racist behaviour in some threads.

SgtPepper
06-07-2010, 07:03 AM
Classic Tom Baker Doctor Who is better than the current series.

Big McLargeHuge
06-07-2010, 07:08 AM
I think you meant to post this in the "popular speculation" thread.

Everyone seems to want to be the first to say that a movie they haven't seen is going to bomb or be terrible.

Let me rephrase, the trailer makes me feel like this movie is going to blow...HARD!

Andrew
06-07-2010, 07:11 AM
Let me rephrase, the trailer makes me feel like this movie is going to blow...HARD!

I don't know if the movie itself will blow, but it won't do well.

Big McLargeHuge
06-07-2010, 07:19 AM
I don't know if the movie itself will blow, but it won't do well.

Yeah, it doesn't strike me as something that will appeal enough to be considered a "success", but industry standards are always pretty ridiculous. I'll hold out to see how others react and unless the reception is strong enough, I'll probably just end up casually dismissing it and then putting it on my netflix queue years later.

MAK15
06-07-2010, 07:31 AM
Scott Pilgrim isn't all that great.

DAVE
06-07-2010, 07:34 AM
Unpopular Opinion threads: Opportunity for posters to show off their ignorance and bad taste.

HoldFastNow
06-07-2010, 07:36 AM
I'm not a fan of Geoff John's at all. I dropped Avengers during his run after buying it since the Busiek relaunch, tried Green Lantern a few times, tried JSA, tried his Superman, picked up the first two issues of his Flash relaunch mini, and for whatever reason I just couldn't get into any of them.

Ben Weldon
06-07-2010, 07:41 AM
The Long Halloween, after multiple readings, doesn't hold up. The twist at the end doesn't feel clever or intriguing, just lazy.

The art sure is pretty, though.

Jeph Loeb, like Steve Niles, is a mediocre writer who has been lucky enough to be teamed up with some amazing artists.

WhindamPryce
06-07-2010, 07:48 AM
I thought the Wire, while good, was kinda boring.

I don't need explosions or car chases, mind you.

panco
06-07-2010, 07:50 AM
The Long Halloween, after multiple readings, doesn't hold up. The twist at the end doesn't feel clever or intriguing, just lazy.

The art sure is pretty, though.

OMG!
I couldn't disagree more.
This thread is pretty strange.

mikeandzod87
06-07-2010, 07:56 AM
The Long Halloween, after multiple readings, doesn't hold up. The twist at the end doesn't feel clever or intriguing, just lazy.

The art sure is pretty, though.

Dark Victory is the superior story, with better art and coloring. I think if you read year one, long Halloween, and dark victory as a trilogy, you see the shift from organized crime to 'masks' in Gotham City, And i find that fascinating.

Rosemary's Baby
06-07-2010, 07:57 AM
I thought the Wire, while good, was kinda boring.

I don't need explosions or car chases, mind you.


Unpopular Opinion threads: Opportunity for posters to show off their ignorance and bad taste.

Hmm.

WhindamPryce
06-07-2010, 08:00 AM
Hmm.

Twice the douchieness?

But seriously, what's the point of doing that? It's supposed to be an UNPOPULAR opinion thread. Why come and chide others for saying their opinions? Like, what, does it make you feel better that you are part of the majority who has the Popular opinions? It'd be like going into the DC thread and saying "Is this where all the people who read shitty, low-selling books converge?" Geez! :lol:


ETA: That's not how I really feel about DC books, it was just an example of what would be a weird thing to say in a thread that's specifically designed for something else. I loves me some DC! don't want people to get the wrong idea.

Big McLargeHuge
06-07-2010, 08:04 AM
Unpopular Opinion threads: Opportunity for posters to show off their ignorance and bad taste.

It's a slightly more hostile version of a guilty pleasures thread.

Big McLargeHuge
06-07-2010, 08:06 AM
Twice the douchieness?

But seriously, what's the point of doing that? It's supposed to be an UNPOPULAR opinion thread. Why come and chide others for saying their opinions? Like, what, does it make you feel better that you are part of the majority who has the Popular opinions? Geez! :lol:

Hey! Don't chide them because they don't possess ignorance or bad taste!

WhindamPryce
06-07-2010, 08:07 AM
Hey! Don't chide them because they don't possess ignorance or bad taste!

I see. Alright man, I guess I'll just back on outta this thread.

Rosemary's Baby
06-07-2010, 08:13 AM
I see. Alright man, I guess I'll just back on outta this thread.

I was joking. I don't actually care that you thought The Wire was boring. I do disagree, but whatever.

Big McLargeHuge
06-07-2010, 08:13 AM
I see. Alright man, I guess I'll just back on outta this thread.

I'm just goofing, my man. No worries.

SighClops
06-07-2010, 08:31 AM
OMG!
I couldn't disagree more.
This thread is pretty strange.

I don't usually mind it when a writer leaves things up to his or her audience to interpret (like the Lost finale), but I just felt that the whole Alfredo/Gilda/Holiday stuff didn't really make much sense. Everything else up until the end is pretty good, but the last couple pages just kinda tarnish it for me.


Dark Victory is the superior story, with better art and coloring. I think if you read year one, long Halloween, and dark victory as a trilogy, you see the shift from organized crime to 'masks' in Gotham City, And i find that fascinating.

I was never able to read all of Dark Victory, but maybe one day I'll track down the issues I'm missing.

DAVE
06-07-2010, 08:33 AM
Twice the douchieness?


Was I just called a douche? Cause this is supposed to be the Unpopular Opinions thread!

Masculine Todd
06-07-2010, 09:11 AM
Mark Millar's one of the ten best comic book writers. His Spider-Man run was pretty damn good. Civil War was also pretty good.



http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=178992

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=192495

I agree.

Masculine Todd
06-07-2010, 09:14 AM
Unpopular Opinion threads: Opportunity for posters to show off their bad taste.

That's just fun.

Ben Weldon
06-07-2010, 09:19 AM
I'm sick of looking at the big blue nippels on the Collectorz.com ad everytime i go to newsarama. Put a sweater on lady!

Jet
06-07-2010, 09:36 AM
The biggest problem with schooling in the US are parents.
INXS is the the greatest band from Australia.
Napoleon Dynamite was not funny.
7-11 coffee beats Dunkin' Donuts coffee.
Dresden is a better Harry than Potter.

Ben Weldon
06-07-2010, 09:38 AM
INXS is the the greatest band from Australia.


Not a extraordinarily high bar. ;)

mikeandzod87
06-07-2010, 09:47 AM
Almost all music from the last ten years has been absolute shit.

Blake Sims
06-07-2010, 09:48 AM
Almost all music from the last ten years has been absolute shit.

That is an absurd statement, unpopular opinion thread or not!

Masculine Todd
06-07-2010, 09:49 AM
Almost all music from the last ten years has been absolute shit.

How much of it have you actually listened to?

mikeandzod87
06-07-2010, 09:51 AM
How much of it have you actually listened to?

More than I'd like to admit. Every thing I've heard on the road has just been completely vapid and pointless nonsense.

(akaRyanHoffman)
06-07-2010, 09:52 AM
Almost all music from the last ten years has been absolute shit.

That's not unpopular so much as it's cynical. Do you expect all good things to be thrown in your lap?

Blake Sims
06-07-2010, 09:53 AM
More than I'd like to admit. Every thing I've heard on the road has just been completely vapid and pointless nonsense.

Do you mean radio?

If so that's your first mistake.

Masculine Todd
06-07-2010, 09:54 AM
More than I'd like to admit. Every thing I've heard on the road has just been completely vapid and pointless nonsense.

I'm assuming you haven't heard much, but then, mainstream music hasn't sucked more or less (at least, by my estimation) than it did in the '90s, but there's been a wealth of wonderful music that isn't necessarily played on Top 40 radio.

mikeandzod87
06-07-2010, 09:58 AM
I'm assuming you haven't heard much, but then, mainstream music hasn't sucked more or less (at least, by my estimation) than it did in the '90s, but there's been a wealth of wonderful music that isn't necessarily played on Top 40 radio.

And I'd have to say mainstream music in the 90s, with grunge and alternative at they're peaks, was probably the bed era of music. When you have bands like Alice in Chains, Rage Against the Machine, Bush, Stone Temple Pilots, early Offspring to name a few.

Patch
06-07-2010, 09:59 AM
You want the truth!?

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss343/ZPatch/fgmen.jpg

You can't handle the truth!!

CougarTrace
06-07-2010, 10:01 AM
Alex Ross is way overrated

cmoney
06-07-2010, 10:02 AM
J Jonah Jameson is the best supporting character in serial fiction.

I thought this was an established scientific fact.

Blake Sims
06-07-2010, 10:02 AM
Alex Ross is way overrated

He's a talented painter and designer, but his sequential art is stiff and lifeless.

Andrew
06-07-2010, 10:10 AM
Almost all music from the last ten years has been absolute shit.


How much of it have you actually listened to?

It seems as if many people have their favorite "decade" or two of music that they like more than anything else, and it's almost always in close proximity to when they were in their teens to 20s. Many Baby Boomers, for example, claim that music started to suck after about 1980, but they might just be perceiving it that way because they grew up around that time. Nowadays I see people in their early 30s claiming that music from the 1990s was great, though I feel that it pales in comparison to what came out in the 2000s.

mikeandzod87
06-07-2010, 10:14 AM
It seems as if many people have their favorite "decade" or two of music that they like more than anything else, and it's almost always in close proximity to when they were in their teens to 20s. Many Baby Boomers, for example, claim that music started to suck after about 1980, but they might just be perceiving it that way because they grew up around that time. Nowadays I see people in their early 30s claiming that music from the 1990s was great, though I feel that it pales in comparison to what came out in the 2000s.

I was a small child in the 90s when all the music i love came out.

Andrew
06-07-2010, 10:20 AM
I was a small child in the 90s when all the music i love came out.

Yeah, I didn't say everyone, but many people.

I was also a child in the 1990s, but I will almost never listen to music from that decade. I'll actually listen to significantly more from the 1970s/1980s than 1990s music. Something about it just doesn't hold up the way older decades do. I think it would be possible for someone more qualified than me to objectively say that music wasn't as good during the 1990s as it was/is during the surrounding decades, but feel free to disagree.

Rosemary's Baby
06-07-2010, 10:21 AM
How much of it have you actually listened to?

All of it. He's listened to all of it.

Urgur the Gurgur
06-07-2010, 10:39 AM
The Cable Guy is a great movie, and probably Jim Carrey's best work.

Kefky
06-07-2010, 10:40 AM
I just wanna say that I'm very, very proud of what this thread has become.

Keep 'em coming, folks, don't be shy!

mikeandzod87
06-07-2010, 10:49 AM
The Cable Guy is a great movie, and probably Jim Carrey's best work.

Goddamned right! What a great dark comedy about tv culture!

jamestolliver
06-07-2010, 11:00 AM
He's a talented painter and designer, but his sequential art is stiff and lifeless.

I agree when it comes to Kingdom Come but I think Marvels has some great storytelling in it.

Ryan_ZOOM_Turner
06-07-2010, 11:09 AM
People who think that all the music from the last ten years has been absolute shit have no idea what they are talking about

RyanP
06-07-2010, 11:09 AM
The Cable Guy is a great movie, and probably Jim Carrey's best work.

I agree. Also, I love your avatar.

Blake Sims
06-07-2010, 11:18 AM
I agree when it comes to Kingdom Come but I think Marvels has some great storytelling in it.

I've only flipped through Marvels. To Barnes and Noble!!

Masculine Todd
06-07-2010, 11:41 AM
All of it. He's listened to all of it.

Then I'm blushing.

Masculine Todd
06-07-2010, 11:43 AM
And I'd have to say mainstream music in the 90s, with grunge and alternative at they're peaks, was probably the bed era of music. When you have bands like Alice in Chains, Rage Against the Machine, Bush, Stone Temple Pilots, early Offspring to name a few.

That's a pretty small segment of western music. How much non-mainstream music have you listened to lately? How much non western, guitar-based music have you listened to lately? There's so much good in every year of every decade. Sometimes, you just have to do a little digging.

The Funketeer
06-07-2010, 12:26 PM
Joss Whedon is just an average talent.

Took the words out of my mouth.

Big McLargeHuge
06-07-2010, 12:26 PM
Man on Wire was self-inflated hogwash, but still pretty look at.

The Hodag
06-07-2010, 12:31 PM
I've only flipped through Marvels. To Barnes and Noble!!

Yeah, Marvels is the one Alex Ross work I really like - surely bolstered by Kurt Busiek writing at the top of his game.

Hmm, I suppose Ross's collabs with Paul Dini were pretty readable, but his "fat-friends-in-costumes" syndrome really pokes through at times.

Anyway, Marvels is totally worth it.

DAVE
06-07-2010, 12:35 PM
Yeah, Marvels is the one Alex Ross work I really like - surely bolstered by Kurt Busiek writing at the top of his game.

Hmm, I suppose Ross's collabs with Paul Dini were pretty readable, but his "fat-friends-in-costumes" syndrome really pokes through at times.

Anyway, Marvels is totally worth it.
:lol: !!!
My older brother was at a party in Chicago a couple years ago, and he was talking to this dude who he thought was really familiar looking. Finally he asked the guy how he knew him, and he asked my brother if he was a comic reader. Turns out it was Alex Ross's Superman model.

mikeandzod87
06-07-2010, 01:24 PM
People who think that all the music from the last ten years has been absolute shit have no idea what they are talking about

I never said 'all' I said most. And are you trying to tell me there something valid in trash like lady gaga and fall out boy? Becuase I don't. And yea, my taste is mostly 90s mainstream grunge and alternative. It's just what I latched onto, but at the same time I also listen to swing music, film scores, and late 80s hip-hop.

Joe Kalicki
06-07-2010, 01:54 PM
I think the music of the last few years is more consistently good than it's been since the 60s.

jamestolliver
06-07-2010, 02:06 PM
I never said 'all' I said most. And are you trying to tell me there something valid in trash like lady gaga and fall out boy? Becuase I don't. And yea, my taste is mostly 90s mainstream grunge and alternative. It's just what I latched onto, but at the same time I also listen to swing music, film scores, and late 80s hip-hop.

I like Lady Gaga.

Urgur the Gurgur
06-07-2010, 02:14 PM
I think the music of the last few years is more consistently good than it's been since the 60s.

I think you're forgetting a little decade called THE 80s!

Joe Kalicki
06-07-2010, 02:16 PM
I think you're forgetting a little decade called THE 80s!

You're right, the best music of the 80s is probably the best music of all time.

Zac Goyette
06-07-2010, 02:20 PM
I don't like any of those bands.

Not really crazy about any of them either.

Zac Goyette
06-07-2010, 02:25 PM
Most of Tim Burton's movies are boring.

Masculine Todd
06-07-2010, 02:43 PM
I never said 'all' I said most. And are you trying to tell me there something valid in trash like lady gaga and fall out boy? Becuase I don't. And yea, my taste is mostly 90s mainstream grunge and alternative. It's just what I latched onto, but at the same time I also listen to swing music, film scores, and late 80s hip-hop.

Since when did Fall Out Boy and Lady Gaga represent the entirety of a very diverse medium over the last (seemingly arbitrarily chosen) ten years?

mikeandzod87
06-07-2010, 02:55 PM
Since when did Fall Out Boy and Lady Gaga represent the entirety of a very diverse medium over the last (seemingly arbitrarily chosen) ten years?

I just used those as the two most prolific and annoying examples of music over the last few years.

The Hodag
06-07-2010, 02:56 PM
Yeah, even if you're a pretty mainstream guy like me you can dig up some pretty hot shit in the 2000s...

Phoenix
The White Stripes
The Black Keyes
The Fratellis
Vampire Weekend
Wilco
The Killers
Spoon
Outkast
Band of Horses
The Strokes
Franz Ferdinand
Gorillaz

DAVE
06-07-2010, 02:58 PM
Yeah, even if you're a pretty mainstream guy like me you can dig up some pretty hot shit in the 2000s...

Phoenix
The White Stripes
The Black Keyes
The Fratellis
Vampire Weekend
Wilco
The Killers
Spoon
Outkast
Band of Horses
The Strokes
Franz Ferdinand
Gorillaz
Yeah, but they got nothing on Alice In Chains, and the Brian Setzer Orchestra.

SgtPepper
06-07-2010, 03:03 PM
Every decade as some great music, you just have to know where to look. There's usually an equal amount of crap and an equal amount of good to great stuff. I might be inclined to argue that the 60s had above average amount of good to great music compared to other decades, but there's still plenty of crap from then.

HoldFastNow
06-07-2010, 03:14 PM
I just used those as the two most prolific and annoying examples of music over the last few years.

By that same logic, I could say the 90s were bad because Milli Vanilli and Limp Bizkit were releasing albums and hugely popular.

I think what's interesting about past decade is that technology reached a point where musicans could record professional sounding albums for much, much cheaper and through the internet get that music out to anyone who wants to hear it. So younger people who are really into music could star to bypass traditional outlets like radio and television and gain large followings through he internet on myspace and blogs and such, but if you just listen to the radio you can miss a lot of good stuff.

Also, since anyone can get their music out there a lot of crap gets out there mixed with the good, probably more than in the past, but the sheer volume of good music being put out really eclipses any other period (again, due to the technology).

SighClops
06-07-2010, 03:25 PM
Buffy Season Six was awesome.

JMS was the best Spider-Man writer since Stern.

I don't hate Jeph Loeb for Ultimatum; I'm just disappointed that the Ultimate line got so bloated that Ultimatum was necessary.

HoldFastNow
06-07-2010, 03:29 PM
When it comes to young X-Men teams, I think the Generation X team was way better than the New Mutants team and I wish more of those characters were still around.

capntightpants
06-07-2010, 03:34 PM
By that same logic, I could say the 90s were bad because Milli Vanilli and Limp Bizkit were releasing albums and hugely popular.

I think what's interesting about past decade is that technology reached a point where musicans could record professional sounding albums for much, much cheaper and through the internet get that music out to anyone who wants to hear it. So younger people who are really into music could star to bypass traditional outlets like radio and television and gain large followings through he internet on myspace and blogs and such, but if you just listen to the radio you can miss a lot of good stuff.

Also, since anyone can get their music out there a lot of crap gets out there mixed with the good, probably more than in the past, but the sheer volume of good music being put out really eclipses any other period (again, due to the technology).

Yes and yes. I have a hard time listening to any one album over and over again because there's too much music I want to listen to.

danlomb
06-07-2010, 04:38 PM
People who think that all the music from the last ten years has been absolute shit have no idea what they are talking about

Which would be why it was posted in this thread?

Superior Kiai
06-07-2010, 04:56 PM
Rise of Arsenal has been a great mini so far.

Jeph Loeb rocks and has always rocked.

Millar's Ultimate Avengers is almost as good as any issue of Ultimates or Ultimates 2.

Haunt has been a good comic so far.

I'll post more when I think of more.

R0cketFr0g
06-07-2010, 05:01 PM
I never said 'all' I said most. And are you trying to tell me there something valid in trash like lady gaga and fall out boy? Becuase I don't. And yea, my taste is mostly 90s mainstream grunge and alternative. It's just what I latched onto, but at the same time I also listen to swing music, film scores, and late 80s hip-hop.

What can you tell me about T.R.I.B.A.L. Stories starring Kid Intense?

Fake Pat
06-07-2010, 05:02 PM
Rise of Arsenal has been a great mini so far.

Jeph Loeb rocks and has always rocked.

Millar's Ultimate Avengers is almost as good as any issue of Ultimates or Ultimates 2.


I have to assume you meant to post this in the "Factually incorrect statements" thread.

Superior Kiai
06-07-2010, 05:04 PM
I have to assume you meant to post this in the "Factually incorrect statements" thread.

Nope.

They are my opinions.

You don't like them.

It's the whole point of the thread.