The Inevitable Official GLEE Thread

[dEnny!]

I really enjoyed the Pilot so plan on watching this show through Hulu.

I cracked up with the pamphlets in the guidance counselor's office:

OUCH! That Stings!
DIVORCE Why Your Parents Stopped Loving You
I Can't Stop Touching Myself
RADON: The Silent Killer
My Mom's Bipolar and she Won't Stop YELLING!
WOW! There's a Hair Down There!
So You Like Throwing Up

And when the girl admits to trying to induce vomiting and says, "I tried, but I guess I just don't have a gag reflex."

The counselor responds, "One day when you're older that will turn out to be a gift."

[leviathan]

The gag reflex line had me loling, but on the whole, I wasn't as amused by this episode as I was the pilot. Mostly, its the stupid jock character. I mean, seriously, dude is really, really stupid. Like, unbelievably stupid.

The songs were great as always though and Jane Lynch is brilliant in this.

[BGPu]

The show's been great so far. I do agree with some that the plot has been on turbo and should slow down a bit though. There were a lot of big developments for only the 2nd episode

[Ryudo]

Mildly entertaining, moreso than some of the other stuff out there.

The musical numbers didn't "grab" me the same way they did in the pilot. It was a little strange seeing that guy doing Kanye's rap from Gold Digger. And the social strata are parodies at best.

But I'll keep watching.

[dEnny!]

Mildly entertaining, moreso than some of the other stuff out there.

The musical numbers didn't "grab" me the same way they did in the pilot. It was a little strange seeing that guy doing Kanye's rap from Gold Digger. And the social strata are parodies at best.

But I'll keep watching.

The songs in this one came off more dubbed.

And the amount of gel used for the ultrasound was INSANE!

And he's not very smart if he'd allow Cheerleaders in the group, you know they could easily turn on him....Trojan Horse? And there it is... (currently watching the show).

[dougmac]

the gag reflex joke was outstanding, but you're right about the songs being overproduced. It really didn't feel organic at all, but the show is still funny as hell.

[Fourthman]

I approve of this show.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I approve of this show.

I approve of this message

[Tom Burgos]

Yeah, great show, but I concur that the songs' overproduced arrangements and so-obviously dubbed singing sorta throws me off. But all in all, a very entertaining TV show.

[Black Roman]

Any doubts I had about my continued interest in this show faded with this episode, I'm hooked.

[PhoenixFactor]

I thought this show was fantastic. Jane Lynch is a genius. The scene in the guidance office was great. The wife is a psycho bitch. I do echo the notions above that the musical numbers seemed over produced. It took me out of those scenes a bit and I didn't feel that way in the pilot. I also thought they were burning plot really quick. The show could have gone longer with just the original 5.5 members before starting the infilitration. The Rachel Finn, Shu and Emma stuff could have played out over weeks. I guess only having 13 episodes for now that Ryan Murphy has a set story he wants to tell. I'll definately be watching and praying that Fox doesnt pull the plug.

[Black Roman]

I thought this show was fantastic. Jane Lynch is a genius. The scene in the guidance office was great. The wife is a psycho bitch. I do echo the notions above that the musical numbers seemed over produced. It took me out of those scenes a bit and I didn't feel that way in the pilot. I also thought they were burning plot really quick. The show could have gone longer with just the original 5.5 members before starting the infilitration. The Rachel Finn, Shu and Emma stuff could have played out over weeks. I guess only having 13 episodes for now that Ryan Murphy has a set story he wants to tell. I'll definately be watching and praying that Fox doesnt pull the plug.

I get the feeling that Fox has a little faith in this show, given how much press and publicity they've been giving it for the last 4/5 months.

[dEnny!]

the gag reflex joke was outstanding, but you're right about the songs being overproduced. It really didn't feel organic at all, but the show is still funny as hell.

It was weird because TiVo had some extended clips of Glee for their fall line-up promotion and it looked and sounded really good and then what I get on air is overproduced and looked dubbed...maybe since it was 4am I was really tired and didn't notice.

That's my one problem with shows that utilize singing and dancing. It's hard to find people who can act and sing and dance so sometimes you have to make these types of compromises.

[LenNWallace]

They really shouldn't do rap songs. That was a solid episode, but the music made me cringe.

[Zack_Hunter]

i dig the show a lot. liked the kanye cover but hate the cheerleaders being brought into the group.

[dEnny!]

Watching episode 3 and BBD's Poison is always a fan favorite.

"This is how we do it!" HILARIOUS!

The show is picking up...viewing the second half now.

[Black Roman]

Didn't see a thread for Ep 4.


Definitely not as light and fluffy an episode the previous ones, but I definitely enjoyed it. Plus, I'm going to have "Single Ladies" trapped in my head for weeks.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I think episode 4 was my least favorite yet. Still enjoyable, though.

[bartleby]

Based on this week's episode, I have to think that the GLEE writers aren't very well versed in the rules of football.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Based on this week's episode, I have to think that the GLEE writers aren't very well versed in the rules of football.

Yeah, that was a bit ridiculous.

[bartleby]

Yeah, that was a bit ridiculous.

Between the illegal motion and the delay of game, that field should have been covered in yellow flags.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Between the illegal motion and the delay of game, that field should have been covered in yellow flags.

I half expected flags to go flying and the music to cut short. And they lose the game. It would have been brilliant.

[bartleby]

I'm having to talk myself out of buying the Kristin Chenoweth tracks from last night's episode on iTunes.

[Black Roman]

I really dug the hell out of this last episode, my favorite so far this season.

[Criden]

Damn, this show is so twisted. I love it!

[Big McLargeHuge]

Just got caught up on it and I'm very surprised considering I usually hate musicals with a passion. The tonal shifts are a bit jarring, but everything else about the show really works for me.

[dEnny!]

Just got caught up on it and I'm very surprised considering I usually hate musicals with a passion. The tonal shifts are a bit jarring, but everything else about the show really works for me.

Me too; my wife was surprised by my love of this musically fueled tv show.

[Big McLargeHuge]

Me too; my wife was surprised by my love of this musically fueled tv show.

It definitely helps that the songs are covers. My issues with most musicals is that the songs just aren't good. When they do veer into straight musical territory where they're acting as they're singing, I do cringe a bit.

[Black Roman]

Yesterday's episode was fantastic, possibly the best of the season thus far and yet no thread. :lol:


Anyway, it was great to see some of the background characters getting a starring role for a change. Tina and Artie especially.

And OMG, Sue Sylester has a heart?!?! That ending with her really was special and fleshed her character out as more than just the psycho villainess cheer coach.

Also, the first Kurt song!

[dEnny!]

Yesterday's episode was fantastic, possibly the best of the season thus far and yet no thread. :lol:


Anyway, it was great to see some of the background characters getting a starring role for a change. Tina and Artie especially.

And OMG, Sue Sylester has a heart?!?! That ending with her really was special and fleshed her character out as more than just the psycho villainess cheer coach.

Also, the first Kurt song!

Yeah, it was cool seeing Sue Sylvester...acting like a human being. The new Cheerios smile was infectious.

And I love the song Defying Gravity, those two can belt out a tune. I was bummed to see him throw the note.

[dEnny!]

Rachel is hot, loved the "ballad" Mr. Schuester sang to her to get a message across.

Hilarious that Ms. Pillsbury was such great "support." :D

Finn singing to the ultrasound was sweet; totally can relate to that. When we were getting Lincoln's sonogram I heard on the radio Alicia Keys' song (doesn't quite work), but when they were showing us our baby I heard, "I don't worry 'cause, Everything's going to be alright, People keep talking they can say what they like, But all i know is everything's going to be alright. No one, no one, no one Can get in the way of what I'm feeling."

It provided some comfort; just seemed like a message being delivered you know.

[dEnny!]

Shuester's wife getting Rachel to clean the house....AH HA HA HAH HA!

[dEnny!]

Rachel singing Will...CRUSH! Oh my.

[dEnny!]

OH SNAP! Puck just told Mercedes he the baby daddy!

[dEnny!]

"I gotta go, they'll think I'm pooping."

[dEnny!]

OH NO! Finn is not singing "You're having my baby" at the Fabray's house. *smack

[Big McLargeHuge]

Denny's having a good time :beer:

[dEnny!]

Denny's having a good time :beer:

Yes I am!

P.S. I don't think you're ready for this jelly.

[dEnny!]

Are you Team Rachel or Team Quinn?

[Big McLargeHuge]

Are you Team Rachel or Team Quinn?

I'm team Artie/Tina :mrgreen:

[bartleby]

Denny is missing an important aspect of "live blogging."

[dEnny!]

Denny is missing an important aspect of "live blogging."

I'll be okay; I prefer going to the beat of my own drum.

[Black Roman]

Glee has been really, really good these past few weeks. I've really grown to love this show.

[Dark Sasha]

They need to sing MacArthur Park. The whole thing.

[bartleby]

Is it just me, or does GLEE have about twice as many commercial breaks as the average one-hour show?

[Ziolko]

Sign me up on the Glee bandwagon. My wife and I are officially hooked the past few weeks.

[Tom Burgos]

What a fantastic TV show. I hope Diana Agron (Quinn) becomes a big movie star.

[Ray G.]

Is it just me, or does GLEE have about twice as many commercial breaks as the average one-hour show?

If it does, they must be shorter. On Hulu, it's 43 minutes long.

[arthurloewenkamp]

Is it just me, or does GLEE have about twice as many commercial breaks as the average one-hour show?

I don't see that, what I noticed is the front end usually doesn't have as many breaks as the back.

[Big McLargeHuge]

Shit just got real, real fast on Mattresses. The tonal shifts are so wild it makes my head spin. I can't complain though, because I'm obscenely entertained by this show!

[dEnny!]

Shit just got real, real fast on Mattresses. The tonal shifts are so wild it makes my head spin. I can't complain though, because I'm obscenely entertained by this show!

Uh oh....I think I just got to that part.

[dEnny!]

Oh SNAP!

[Big McLargeHuge]

Oh SNAP!

He's got the hydrogen psychosis...the crazy eye!

[Dark Sasha]

Is it just me, or does GLEE have about twice as many commercial breaks as the average one-hour show?

I noticed it doesn't go to commercial after the opening bumper that ends the teaser.

[Fourthman]

So does the fake pregnancy being over mean we never have to see Will's sister in law again? And bring his parents back for a number!

[Black Roman]

I was really expecting them to milk this fake pregnancy for qas long as possible, so kudos to them for NOT going that route, not a very "music-y" episode, but was still very good and definitely got me looking forward to the fall finale.

[Zack_Hunter]

So does the fake pregnancy being over mean we never have to see Will's sister in law again? And bring his parents back for a number!

The sister in law was a horrible character and just a bad mother.

Some of the strongest acting in the show so far in that dining room scene. Just holy crap on Will.

[bartleby]

Idina Menzel is in talks to join the cast for the back nine. (http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/12/broadway-star-joining-glee-cast.html) Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like she's going to be playing Rachel's biological mother, which I guess would have been too perfect.

[Horizon Drive]

Is there a thread for tonights show?

[dEnny!]

Is there a thread for tonights show?

I usually just update the thread title....after I watch the show, which is usually the morning after it airs via Hulu.

It may be delayed this week as I'm taking the family to DISNEY WORLD!

How was the episode?

[PhoenixFactor]

Have fun in WDW wish i was going too!

Anyways Glee's finally was great! You can tell they were prepared that it might not have taken off like it has. Fantastic episode though. Can't wait till April!

[leviathan]

GREAT episode. Love how they wrapped everything up and left just enough wiggle room for the season extension.

Kind of pissed at the huge season break though. Although hopefully this means season 2 will start promptly in September - leaving only a 2 month gap in between seasons.

[Black Roman]

Just a fantastic episode with not one but TWO showstopping numbers, the first from Mercedes and then Rachel just KNOCKS one WAY out of the park towards the end, just a great episode. Sad that there won't be any more Glee until April. :(

[Mister Mets]

Yeah, I've really come to enjoy this show.

I'm glad that the big subplots aren't milked for an entire season, though I hope the final nine episodes are still satisfying.

There are some similarities with Ryan Murphy's other show Nip/ Tuck in terms of how they handle subplots.


Idina Menzel is in talks to join the cast for the back nine. (http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/12/broadway-star-joining-glee-cast.html) Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like she's going to be playing Rachel's biological mother, which I guess would have been too perfect.

On another tab, I have her singing Defying Gravity at the Tony Awards. weird.

[Horizon Drive]

Great show and last night's was a great episode. I have a secret crush on Jayma Mays. The kids have grown on me too. Racheal and Quinn are dolls.

Jane Lynch is great. I always wait for her to show up on the show. Her character development in that episode with her disabled sister really got to me, very moving.

[Dark Sasha]

Great show and last night's was a great episode. I have a secret crush on Jayma Mays. The kids have grown on me too. Racheal and Quinn are dolls.

Jane Lynch is great. I always wait for her to show up on the show. Her character development in that episode with her disabled sister really got to me, very moving.

That was one of the three times I cried during that episode.

[Horizon Drive]

That was one of the three times I cried during that episode.

Yeah I cried during that episode too, not unlike a baby. The deaf kids singing Imagine was pretty moving as well,

[PeterSparker]

Skimming through this thread so not to see any spoilers. Only saw the first four episodes last night, but wow, this show is exceptionally good!

[J. Wilson]

Matthew Morrison will have his debut CD out in the fall of this year through Mercury Records.

[Mikie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWTslWUlV_E&feature=player_embedded

[dEnny!]

Congrats to GLEE for winning a Golden Globe this year for Best Comedy/Musical.

I wish HULU was allowed to make all 13 episodes available while the show is on break until April.

[dEnny!]

Why is the GLEE dvd containing only 13 episodes so expensive?

Amazon's price is $28. MSRP is $40! That's $3 an episode.

Interesting that NBC prices Friday Night Lights' DVD to try and generate interest, but if a show is popular you gouge?

[LeggoMyEggolas]

Why is the GLEE dvd containing only 13 episodes so expensive?

Amazon's price is $28. MSRP is $40! That's $3 an episode.

Interesting that NBC prices Friday Night Lights' DVD to try and generate interest, but if a show is popular you gouge?

Covering the music license fees might have something to do with it. I'm holding out for a complete season one set on blu-ray.

[dEnny!]

Covering the music license fees might have something to do with it. I'm holding out for a complete season one set on blu-ray.

I was hoping to get my wife hooked on the show and caught up before it came back this April.

[LenNWallace]

Yeah, it's probably the music licensing. I'd still be willing to throw down some change on it.

[Beep Beep!]

Just saw this for the first time.

:shock:

Olivia Newton John?

[SteveFlack]

This guy has articulated everything I've been feeling about Glee.

http://tv.gawker.com/5525450/the-problem-with-glee?skyline=true&s=i


The Problem With Glee
I have a problem with Glee, but I guess that can be pretty common these days. A lot of people don't like the show's fawning tone, its paper-thin characters, or the nigh-ridiculous soap opera storylines.

Some have a deep resentment for Glee's simplistic portrayal of high school that stems from their own experiences, while others just hate show tunes and pop music. None of those are my problem.

Those things are intrinsic to Glee's nature. They're non-negotiable; a price of admission I was more than willing to pay in return for one other aspect of the show. For a time, it featured some of the most incisive, biting social commentary on network television. My problem, now, is that Glee seems to have abandoned its wit and sense of satire for a more genuine tone.

Know this: Glee is not a sincere show, or at least it wasn't at the beginning. The first five minutes of the pilot contain a teacher (our protagonist, Will Schuester) ignoring an incident of gay-bashing (spearheaded by football star Finn Hudson), another teacher molesting a student on school grounds, a comparison of cheerleading to waterboarding, a character exhibiting symptoms of OCD, a referendum on the lack of funding in public schools, and our cultural emphasis on athletics. Does that sound like the saccharine sweet show Glee is portrayed as?

No, Glee as it was first envisioned was dark as hell. Before the pilot is over we've seen Will (again, our hero) plant weed on a student (Finn) in order to blackmail him, a childhood flashback to Finn's mom being ditched by her boyfriend for a blonde bimbo, and a (supposedly) high school aged choir perform a version of Amy Winehouse's "Rehab".

Plot points from the first few episodes include Will's wife Terri faking her pregnancy in an effort to save their troubled marriage, Finn having trouble with premature ejaculation, flamboyantly gay Kurt coming out to his traditional father, Will having an alcoholic burnout mentor the glee club, and Finn's girlfriend Quinn getting knocked up by his best friend and then telling Finn that the kid is his.

But lately, I'm afraid, Glee has started to abandon substance for style. The show's early run had some good commentary about growing up in the Midwest, and how the high school kids want to grow up and get out while most of the adults are just trying to recapture what they once had. Remember, Glee sprung from the mind of Ryan Murphy: the man who brought us the incredibly dark and often disturbing Nip/Tuck. For a show that contains so much singing and dancing, there's a palpable sadness to many of Glee's scenes- like Quinn's parent's kicking her out of the house when they find out she's pregnant -that gave the show surprising emotional heft.

This is not to say that Glee was always melancholy and meaningful. There were plenty of feel good moments to be had, but they were usually used to underscore the show's dramatic element. As the show devolves into a cartoonish parody of itself, we're losing the brilliant things that Glee can do. At one point, the show transitioned from the glee club's pajama-clad, mattress-acrobatics filled rendition of Van Halen's "Jump" straight to a scene where Will discovers that Terri is faking her pregnancy. That three-and-a-half minute segment is already intense, but putting it right after a goofy dance number makes it feel almost mind-numbingly explosive.

Or, call to mind the revelation that Jane Lynch's caustic, near-fascist cheerleading coach Sue Sylvester has an older sister with Down Syndrome living in an adult care facility. Coming at the end of an episode all about handicaps, seeing a comically harsh character soften while reading "Little Red Riding Hood" to their sister was a beautiful human moment in a show that often skews towards the absurd.

Compare those scenes to the most recent episode of Glee, where the storylines had to tread water in order to allow the writers to cram as many Madonna songs as they could into a single hour of television. If I had closed my eyes I would have believed that I was watching an hour-long infomercial for Madge's latest album. For a show that can summon such poignancy to stoop to lines such as "Madonna. Simply saying the word aloud makes me feel powerful" and "You don't deserve the power of Madonna" is downright embarrassing. The heavier storylines have been muted or pushed to the side to make room for more escapist fare. We haven't even heard more than a passing mention of the show's Ohio setting in a long, long time.

Why, then, has Glee abandoned the intelligence that indued it with so much life and meaning? The only reason that comes to mind is the same reason that every good show dumbs down its content: the audience. The pilot first aired after the season finale of American Idol, a show whose audience is very old, very young, and very female. By playing to an audience of younger tweens and teens, Glee pulled in a viewership that is not known for its appreciation of irony, satire, and social commentary. Rather than appreciate the series for its subversive side, these less mature fans largely take the series at face value." Maybe add a note that says something like "Sorry for the accidental sexism, I'll be more careful next time.

Of course, those unsophisticated viewers might not be right, but they are many. Look at a list of the top-rated scripted shows on television: NCIS, The Mentalist, CSI, NCIS: Los Angeles, Two and a Half Men, The Big Bang Theory, Desperate Housewives, Criminal Minds. Not a lot of intelligent programing on that list. The highest compliment I've ever heard paid to one of those shows was when a friend called The Mentalist "Pretty amusing, a good way to kill an hour." Quite the endorsement.

The fact is: to win big, you have to win stupid. Faced with a possible hit, Murphy & Co. have made concessions to their original conceit and filed down the edges on the show's razor-sharp fangs. Perhaps the most troubling incident of all is the casting of Broadway superstar Idina Menzel (Rent, Wicked) after an internet campaign based solely on the fact that she looks like Glee star Lea Michele. I don't believe that any audience, much less the majority of the people who follow Glee, should be able to dictate the terms of art.

I still watch Glee, and enjoy it for the most part, but the experience has been cheapened for me. I think about what the show could have been, and how it's never quite lived up to the promise of the pilot and first couple of episode. I still get a kick out of the creative cover versions of pop and rock standards, but the thrill fades when I have to sit through another stretch of uninspired romantic storylines with a Zac Efron look-alike and cliché dialogue. It's alright, better than most drivel on TV these days, but it could have been so much more.

[dougmac]

This guy has articulated everything I've been feeling about Glee.

http://tv.gawker.com/5525450/the-problem-with-glee?skyline=true&s=i

we were saying tonight how we might quit on it because it has been so bad since it came back from its break. There are still flashes of brilliance (the Mike O'Malley stuff has been great), but they are too few and far between lately.

[Dude Pal]

Wow, since the break this show has been pretty intolerable. It makes me sad, because I loved the first 13 episodes... well, not the pilot, but all the eps after that.

[Black Roman]

I've liked Glee so far since it's been back, but I do agree, I think the show is taking itself way too seriously now. I would like to see them keep the character development, but still bring back some of that dark, almost sadistic humor from the first 13.

[Prime]

on an unrelated note if you want to see some "artistic nudes" of "Brittany" (the dumb cheerleader)

click here (http://www.egotastic.com/entertainment/celebrities/heather-morris/glee-star-heather-morris-nude-pictures-005557)

NSFW I suppose.

Damn shadows...

[BGPu]

One of the background guys from Chuck showed up in last night's episode during the library scene. The guy must be an all-star extra or something.

[RegularJoe]

i find myself fast-forwarding through some of the musical numbers. "physical" last night and rachel song with the 3 boys.

[Ben Weldon]

Ok we are a bit behind so let's get this started.

Gee wizz they sure do autotune the heck out of Finn's voice.

Gee wizz they sure do like to have Mr.Shuster go "urban".

Gee wizz Artie sure has a a amazing voice.

Gee wizz i sure wish wish 'Other Asian' would get a line.

Gee wizz Jane Lynch sure is awesome.

Gee wizz Kristin Chenoweth sure is awesome.

Gee wizz Neil Patrick Harris sure is awesome.

[EasyE726]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbVBG1slklI&feature=related

[Susan BANthony]

Kurt looks like Adam Witt and is made of pure AWESOME. :heart:

[Dude Pal]

Glee is probably my guiltiest pleasure.

[bartleby]

There was an official GLEE thread (http://606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=182427), but Denny occasionally updates the title to specific episodes when he gets around to watching them, which makes it just confusing.

[MayorMitch100]

This weeks episode was good. Whedon and NPH? Sign me up. NPH was great.

[Dude Pal]

This weeks episode was good. Whedon and NPH? Sign me up. NPH was great.

The last note in Dream On that NPH hit was greeeeeeat!

[Stupendous Man]

this past episode was pretty great, but last weeks episode, laryngitis was fantastic. by far the best since sectionals.

ditto on the guiltiest pleasure sentiment. not entirely sure why i love this show but lord help me, i do.

[Jef UK]

Sometimes the autotune is out of control, but you can tell which actors are broadway peeps--they don't need it.

[Len Ford]

this past episode was pretty great, but last weeks episode, laryngitis was fantastic. by far the best since sectionals.

ditto on the guiltiest pleasure sentiment. not entirely sure why i love this show but lord help me, i do.

Since it came back after sectionals, I don't think the episodes have been as good... then the past 2 weeks of episodes have been pretty great. Next week's episode looks like it has potential to be a good one too.

While I always opt to watch Lost over Glee, I do find myself debating on whether or not I should switch it up. Fortunately, I do not have to make that decision any longer. :) And yeah, this show is most definitely a guilty pleasure of mine...

[Sam Little]

This show confounds me. I don't really like it. I don't really like most of the songs. I don't really like most of the characters. Yet I can't stop watching it.

What I like:
Jane Lynch is awesome in everything. The chick with the nose and the fat black girl sure can sing good. That Jesse kid ain't bad either. Kurt amuses me. Kristin Chenoweth is also awesome. Ditto Neil Patrick Harris.

What I hate:
Wheelchair guy. I cringe every time he's on screen. Why didn't they hire a real wheelchair guy? Why did they make him an annoying nerd? Wouldn't it be more interesting if he were a cool, studly, wheelchair guy? He looks so stupid rolling around in the big dance numbers. There's no way in hell that hot asian chick would be interested in that whiny little four-eyed fuck. Also, she should get more songs. She sing good.
Rapping teacher guy. Stop rapping. Please.
Boring ass Finn. He is boring. His voice is boring. His face is boring. Boring. Boring. Boring.

Even the fact that I have invested enough in this show to have strong feelings about it and post about it on the internet confounds me.

Damn you, Gleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[Ben Weldon]

I'm a big Artie fan so i'll leap to his defence :)
They could have had a real wheelchair user play Artie but would that person have as good a voice as Kevin McHale?
Artie is a a cool, studly, wheelchair guy. He just looks like a nerd.

[Ben Weldon]

Bad Romance - Glee Live 2010! Phoenix, Arizona

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZJnlBnmQ40

[Sam Little]

I'm a big Artie fan so i'll leap to his defence :)
They could have had a real wheelchair user play Artie but would that person have as good a voice as Kevin McHale?
Artie is a a cool, studly, wheelchair guy. He just looks like a nerd.

Let's agree to disagree. :)
But I'll concede that the dude can sing. He can dance too. I just don't like his face. I'm shallow that way.

[Ben Weldon]

Let's agree to disagree. :)
But I'll concede that the dude can sing. He can dance too. I just don't like his face. I'm shallow that way.

Agreed. :)
I admit i may be biased by my desire to tap that.

[Ben Weldon]

Glee has been renewed for a third year!

http://www.spinoffonline.com/2010/05/24/glee-goes-for-three/


“In just one year, Glee has transcended the television landscape and emerged as a global pop culture phenomenon,” said Peter Rice, Chairman, Entertainment of FOX Networks Group. “We are incredibly proud to have talent like Ryan Murphy and the Glee cast in our FOX family, and we can’t wait to see where Ryan takes the show in Seasons Two and Three.”

“Brad, Ian, Dante, the cast and I are all thrilled and honored by the overwhelming support of Glee from FOX, the studio and our amazing fans,” said Murphy, co-creator and executive producer of Glee. “It’s been a whirlwind year — from shooting the pilot to performing at the White House to the concert tour that began last week — and yet we all feel like we’ve just begun this amazing musical journey. Having time to plan ahead is wonderful, and we think our GLEEks worldwide are going to love what we’ll have in store for them in Seasons Two and Three.”

[Black Roman]

Hopefully they will fix their current problems and right the ship for Season 2.

I still love the show, but I miss that satirical sting that the first half had. But like I said, still love the show.

[Dan-C]

I'm not really a fan of the way they've gone all "theme week" with the show, but other than that the show is great.

I actually took my wife to the Glee Live concert on Friday for her birthday. It was a lot of fun. I'm sure there's video of it all over youtube, or some other websites. Its amazing how loud 12,000 screaming teenage girls can be.

[Josh!]

I wish it were a bit more scathing, more "Freaks and Band Geeks" or something. Except then no one would watch it. I just feel like the show plays it too safe... although that might be why it's a hit.

[Fourthman]

Hopefully they will fix their current problems and right the ship for Season 2.

I still love the show, but I miss that satirical sting that the first half had. But like I said, still love the show.

Agreed.

Also, I think they did the third year renewal because they need to lock up Broadway's top talent. Will & Lea (and the other show folk) are in huge demand on the stage.

[Dan-C]

Agreed.

Also, I think they did the third year renewal because they need to lock up Broadway's top talent. Will & Lea (and the other show folk) are in huge demand on the stage.

Like other TV serieses, they likely signed 7 year deals from the get go. So they probably didn't have to worry about anyone stealing the main actors. The guest actors, maybe. But not the main characters.

[Martin J]

With the extended season run of 25 episodes, a third season and the tour they are going to burn out their actors.

I think i read an interview with neil patrick harris that when he did his guest appearance he was hoping to have some fun with the cast but they were pretty much dead on their feet the whole time and not up for hanging out. That was at the end of the season before the tour, they will have little recovery time at all.

[bartleby]

With the extended season run of 25 episodes, a third season and the tour they are going to burn out their actors.

I'm more worried about them burning out their stories.

[Martin J]

I'm more worried about them burning out their stories.

there are stories ?

[dEnny!]

There's a GLEE TOUR?!?!?! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

:scared:

[dEnny!]

I just watched the Madonna episode...good stuff.

[dEnny!]

"When I pulled my hamstring I went to a misogynist."

[dEnny!]

"I'm pretty sure my cat is reading my diary."

[dEnny!]

Things you don't want to hear from your mother.

"You were conceived on a pinball machine."

:sick:

[dEnny!]

"I don't know how to turn on a computer."

[dEnny!]

Ok we are a bit behind so let's get this started.

Gee wizz they sure do autotune the heck out of Finn's voice.

Gee wizz they sure do like to have Mr.Shuster go "urban".

Gee wizz Artie sure has a a amazing voice.

Gee wizz i sure wish wish 'Other Asian' would get a line.

Gee wizz Jane Lynch sure is awesome.

Gee wizz Kristin Chenoweth sure is awesome.

Gee wizz Neil Patrick Harris sure is awesome.


I haven't seen the NPH episode yet...catching up.

Loving Brittany's lines.

Where's Quinn? I want to see more of her. :heybaby:

[Ben Weldon]

I haven't seen the NPH episode yet...catching up.

Loving Brittany's lines.

Where's Quinn? I want to see more of her. :heybaby:

Brittany's deadpan delivery is comedy gold

"You know dolphins are just gay sharks?"

[dEnny!]

Brittany's deadpan delivery is comedy gold

"You know dolphins are just gay sharks?"

"There are sooo many lyrics."

[Ben Weldon]

Any one have any particular songs they hope show up in future episodes?
For me, i want to see Quinn performing 'The Fear' by Lily Allen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-wGMlSuX_c


And i’ll take my clothes off and it will be shameless
Cause everyone knows that’s how you get famous
I’ll look at the sun and I’ll look in the mirror
I’m on the right track yeah I’m on to a winner

[Chorus]
I don’t know what’s right and what’s real anymore
I don’t know how I’m meant to feel anymore
When do you think it will all become clear?
‘Cause I’m being taken over by the fear

Life’s about film stars and less about mothers
It’s all about fast cars and cussing each other
But it doesn’t matter cause I’m packing plastic
and that’s what makes my life so fucking fantastic

[dEnny!]

Any one have any particular songs they hope show up in future episodes?
For me, i want to see Quinn performing 'The Fear' by Lily Allen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-wGMlSuX_c


And i’ll take my clothes off and it will be shameless
Cause everyone knows that’s how you get famous
I’ll look at the sun and I’ll look in the mirror
I’m on the right track yeah I’m on to a winner

[Chorus]
I don’t know what’s right and what’s real anymore
I don’t know how I’m meant to feel anymore
When do you think it will all become clear?
‘Cause I’m being taken over by the fear

Life’s about film stars and less about mothers
It’s all about fast cars and cussing each other
But it doesn’t matter cause I’m packing plastic
and that’s what makes my life so fucking fantastic

Sad how much truth is in this song and how many people have bought into this belief.

"I want to be rich and I want lots of money
I don't care about clever I don't care about funny
I want loads of clothes and fuckloads of diamonds
I heard people die while they are trying to find them."

"And I am a weapon of massive consumption
And it's not my fault it's how I'm programmed to function"

"Now everything is cool as long as I'm getting thinner."

Great song choice.

[Ben Weldon]

Meet Heather Morris (Brittany)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra3CLcbh_uU

[Ben Weldon]

"There are sooo many lyrics."

"You look like a boy peacock that likes other boy peacocks."

[dEnny!]

"You look like a boy peacock that likes other boy peacocks."

"Your hands are really soft. Seriously. They feel like a baby. Now I know what it's like to date a baby."

[Martin J]

I was enjoying having Glee on in the background when it started but around about episode 6 it suddenly became essential because of Brittany. She is by far the star of the show.

[SteveFlack]

If Kurt was a straight guy, and Finn was a girl, then Kurt wouldn't be sympathetic and he'd be viewed as the creepy leech he is.

I just don't have a sympathy for this kid.

Oh, and is "Pokerface" really an appropriate Mother/Daughter duet?

God, this show could be so much better. It's going to flame out so hard.

[Ben Weldon]

If Kurt was a straight guy, and Finn was a girl, then Kurt wouldn't be sympathetic and he'd be viewed as the creepy leech he is.

I just don't have a sympathy for this kid.

Oh, and is "Pokerface" really an appropriate Mother/Daughter duet?

God, this show could be so much better. It's going to flame out so hard.

You're fun!

[bartleby]

If Kurt was a straight guy, and Finn was a girl, then Kurt wouldn't be sympathetic and he'd be viewed as the creepy leech he is.

I just don't have a sympathy for this kid.

Oh, and is "Pokerface" really an appropriate Mother/Daughter duet?

God, this show could be so much better. It's going to flame out so hard.

I agree.


And as good as Mike O'Malley has been, they keep going back to the "I love my gay son even though he's different from me" well far too much for it to keep being effective.

[Ryudo]

"Sometimes I forget my middle name."

[EasyE726]

I just can't believe the host of Guts would be that good of an actor...that scene with him going off on Finn was amazing.

[Ben Weldon]

The Kurt and Finn thing is a bit creepy, but it's a an unrequited love story, some creepy comes as standard. Honestly i think i'd have more of a problem with it if i didn't know about Kurt getting a real boyfriend next season. I also think it's unfair to say "if Finn was a girl..." because, well, Finn's not a girl. Male/female power dynamics are inherently different from male/male. Generally speaking guys don't react violently to girls who have crushes.

As for flaming out? Yeah, probably. Most things do. Especially things that get this popular this fast. I'm just enjoying it while it lasts.

Oh, and Other Asian got a line this week!! Wishes do come true!!

[Black Roman]

The episode started out with so much promise (I almost felt like it was the first 13 episodes when the nerdy Jew got attacked by Team Edward, and towards the end with Tina and the Principal) but too much drama, not enough funny, and NO Sue Sylvester kept me out of it.


Even if that Bad Romance number was awesome.

[Black Roman]

The Kurt and Finn thing is a bit creepy, but it's a an unrequited love story, some creepy comes as standard. Honestly i think i'd have more of a problem with it if i didn't know about Kurt getting a real boyfriend next season. I also think it's unfair to say "if Finn was a girl..." because, well, Finn's not a girl. Male/female power dynamics are inherently different from male/male. Generally speaking guys don't react violently to girls who have crushes.


I actually felt they were on the CUSP of actually hitting a valid point, about just being who you are or how you act or dress is not a reflection of your sexuality and that you should just be you and not worry about the opinions of others, but they only touched those points and then they poured sap all over them.

Also, for an allegedly Lady Gaga themed episode, two songs is kinda lame. I mean, sure she's a relatively new artist, but she's got more than a handful of notable songs already.

[Ben Weldon]

I actually felt they were on the CUSP of actually hitting a valid point, about just being who you are or how you act or dress is not a reflection of your sexuality and that you should just be you and not worry about the opinions of others, but they only touched those points and then they poured sap all over them.

Also, for an allegedly Lady Gaga themed episode, two songs is kinda lame. I mean, sure she's a relatively new artist, but she's got more than a handful of notable songs already.

The thing is it was never meant to be a Gaga themed episode, not in the way the Madonna one was anyway, just that Gaga featured heavily. I do admit i was hoping for more than just two songs.

[Black Roman]

The thing is it was never meant to be a Gaga themed episode, not in the way the Madonna one was anyway, just that Gaga featured heavily. I do admit i was hoping for more than just two songs.

Maybe "themed" was too strong, but it was certainly heavily Gaga-centric. Considering most of the cast is dressed in all of her various notable costumes, you'd think they'd have done at least 3 songs.

Love Games stands out as the kind of crazy, raunchy number they love to do on this show from time to time, and it would have fit well into the "plot."

[Ben Weldon]

Maybe "themed" was too strong, but it was certainly heavily Gaga-centric. Considering most of the cast is dressed in all of her various notable costumes, you'd think they'd have done at least 3 songs.

Love Games stands out as the kind of crazy, raunchy number they love to do on this show from time to time, and it would have fit well into the "plot."

That would have been pretty cool. I was hoping for Teeth sung by ether Kurt or Tina, or Telephone sung by the boys.

[Black Roman]

The guys doing Telephone would have been fun.

[Fourthman]

I agree.


And as good as Mike O'Malley has been, they keep going back to the "I love my gay son even though he's different from me" well far too much for it to keep being effective.

I agree as well. This was clearly just the plot wedge the show needed to prevent Kurt's moving in scheme from actually working.

[EasyE726]

The guys doing Telephone would have been fun.

But from what they said in the episode Vocal Adrenaline is doing Gaga for Reigonals so I think it's safe to assume we haven't heard the last of Gaga on Glee.

[Dan-C]

Meet Heather Morris (Brittany)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra3CLcbh_uU

I saw her at the Glee tour on Friday, and she's clearly the best dancer in the group, other than Other Asian. I'd love to see those two have a dance off.

Although, I thought Artie looked pretty good dancing last week.

[bartleby]

But from what they said in the episode Vocal Adrenaline is doing Gaga for Reigonals so I think it's safe to assume we haven't heard the last of Gaga on Glee.

Are they doing something different for regionals each episode? It seems like both groups start over completely every week rather than spending the entire year working on their routine.

[Dan-C]

But from what they said in the episode Vocal Adrenaline is doing Gaga for Reigonals so I think it's safe to assume we haven't heard the last of Gaga on Glee.

Possibly not. We also haven't heard the last of Journey. Especially considering the finale's title is "Journey".


The Kurt and Finn thing is a bit creepy, but it's a an unrequited love story, some creepy comes as standard. Honestly i think i'd have more of a problem with it if i didn't know about Kurt getting a real boyfriend next season. I also think it's unfair to say "if Finn was a girl..." because, well, Finn's not a girl. Male/female power dynamics are inherently different from male/male. Generally speaking guys don't react violently to girls who have crushes.

Was I the only one that thought Kurt's dad completely overreacted with Finn, and kind of missed an opportunity?

[SteveFlack]

Possibly not. We also haven't heard the last of Journey. Especially considering the finale's title is "Journey".



Was I the only one that thought Kurt's dad completely overreacted with Finn, and kind of missed an opportunity?

"When I was young, I was just like you! AND THEN I CHANGED! Too bad for you, you're a lost hope! Now get out of my basement where my creepy son wants to hit on you all the time!"

[SteveFlack]

Are they doing something different for regionals each episode? It seems like both groups start over completely every week rather than spending the entire year working on their routine.

That would make too much sense!

The build-up to sectionals made sense, they kept trying to find their routine, and work it out. Now, they just sort make it up every week as they go along, without any sort natural arc to the whole thing. Instead, "Hey, here's an assignment!" Now, work something out with costumes and sets and crazy danc routines!

There should be a defined line between the fantasy routines, and the real routines, and they blur them constantly.

Also, whatever happened to the football coach? Shouldn't he hold some sort of grudge?

But instead, we get the Rachel's mom story, which was way too rushed. It could have been split across a 6 or 7 episode arc in season 2.

[Dude Pal]

Bad song choice for the mother/daughter song. Although, I did like that they messed with it a bit and did the song differently. It just didn't make any sense...

Although, I was throughly happy with the fact there was as much KISS as Lady Gaga in this. Even if one of the songs was Beth.

[PhoenixFactor]

I enjoyed the episode as always but certain parts of the show are starting to bother me. For example, I hate how we never see them actually practicing or learning anything. Its like they are just magically able to do everything. It was great to see vocal adrelaline actually PRACTICE. It made them seem like a more credible threat. I thought the KISS stuff was out of place here too would have perferred all gaga. I thought the Kurt scene was great and emotional. Yes its creepy kind of but I think that's something they are pushing with Kurt. As someone said above it wouldn't have been seen as creepy if it wasn't a homosexual relationship. I really like the relationship between Kurt and his Dad and I think the messages being sent to tonight are ones that all kids need to hear. I'm a teacher and the homophobic shit that comes out of kids mouth is disgusting. Its good there is a positive and accepting media out there I hope it has impact on some of these kids who are watching this show.

I do miss seeing the guidance counselor and sue when they arent on too. the Rachel/mom thing was really rushed I thought. I really like the two of them as parent and child. the resemblence is unbelievably good. I hope we actually see that Gaga routine that VA was practicing.

My favorite part was when before Pokerface Rachel was like "He's always around" about the pianist.

[JoeE]

If Kurt was a straight guy, and Finn was a girl, then Kurt wouldn't be sympathetic and he'd be viewed as the creepy leech he is.

I wouldn't go so far as to call Kurt a creepy leech, but I do think the writers cheated a bit by having Finn use the word "faggy". It's not unreasonable for Finn to have some issues with living with a gay teenager who has a crush on him, but when he dropped the slur he went from being sympathetic to a bigot in need of an upbraiding. It was almost worth it because Mike O'Malley was great in that scene, but I wish they had been a bit more fair to the character.


Was I the only one that thought Kurt's dad completely overreacted with Finn, and kind of missed an opportunity?

Finn is a 17-year old kid! He really should've been cut some slack.

[Len Ford]

Are they doing something different for regionals each episode? It seems like both groups start over completely every week rather than spending the entire year working on their routine.

Spoilers about a Song for Regionals:
From the preorder for songs that come out on iTunes two weeks, it looks like they will be performing a different version of Don't Stop Believin' at Regionals.

I'm sure there are songs that they continue to rehearse that we have heard before but they don't take up time in the episodes because the audience has seen it before. In a way, it makes sense to keep looking for new material to compete with Vocal Adrenaline. They are certainly a step up in competition from their last two competitors. Also, their last set list for sectionals was just thrown together as a result of the opposing teams stealing their songs and they were caught off guard with basically no songs to sing that they had previously rehearsed. I'm sure that for Regionals that they want to know a wide variety of songs, just in case another team happens to be performing one of their songs again.

[Ben Weldon]

My favorite part was when before Pokerface Rachel was like "He's always around" about the pianist.

I love it when Glee gets meta, like when Mercedes complains about being trotted out to whale on the last note. :lol:

[dEnny!]

"Happy Meal, no onions. Or a chicken."

[Black Roman]

Liked this episode, still had their minor moments of cheese (the whole Mercedes/Quinn bonding thing) but other than that, this was definitely much more like the first 13 episodes than any of the subsequent eps.

Also, Beck! Didn't see that number coming. :lol:


Season Finale next week!!!! :rock:

[Kid Marvel]

Queen, Beck, and Parliament all in the same episode? Yes please.

[Ben Weldon]

Needed more Brittany.
Sort of a ho-hum episode. The Beck number was good but poor Quinn got her ass handed to her by It's a Man's Man's Man's World. Her Lamaze backup dancers where hilarious though.

[LeggoMyEggolas]

I had read that this episode was supposed to be before the Gaga episode which explains why no mention of Jesse in the Gaga ep, but I think swapping them helped fix a continuity error that would have come up if played in the original order. I don't remember Quinn showing to the extent she was in this episode compared to the Gaga episode.

Also, what booster club is active enough to afford twenty-six Range Rovers?!?

[bartleby]

Was Brittany at some point wearing a Cheerios uniform without the school letters? If so, was that explained?

[Ben Weldon]

Was Brittany at some point wearing a Cheerios uniform without the school letters? If so, was that explained?

It was on backwards. All the Cheerios where in various states of dishevelment once Sue abandoned them.

[bartleby]

Last night's episode of Glee ("Funk") was perhaps the most egregious offender, as the episode itself contained no less than 60 uses of the word "funk" over the course of the installment, including having Mr. Shuester write it on the dry-erase board for those of you who didn't get it the other 60-plus times or notice the episode's title. (With 66 uses of "funk," it averaged out to more than 1.5 occurrences of "funk" per minute of roughly 41 minutes of scripted fare.)

http://www.televisionaryblog.com/2010/06/glee-watch-when-is-there-just-too-much.html

[afroloq]

so, are you saying that it was a funky episode?

[Ben Weldon]

Last night's episode of Glee ("Funk") was perhaps the most egregious offender, as the episode itself contained no less than 60 uses of the word "funk" over the course of the installment, including having Mr. Shuester write it on the dry-erase board for those of you who didn't get it the other 60-plus times or notice the episode's title. (With 66 uses of "funk," it averaged out to more than 1.5 occurrences of "funk" per minute of roughly 41 minutes of scripted fare.)

http://www.televisionaryblog.com/2010/06/glee-watch-when-is-there-just-too-much.html

Hey, it's just too funky for him (gotta get inside)

[Dan-C]

(Probably partial) Setlist for next week's finale, courtesy of iTunes:

Faithfully
Any Way You Want It/ Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'
Don't Stop Believin'
Bohemian Rhapsody (Feat. Jonathan Groff)
To Sir With Love
Over The Rainbow


I'm glad to see a mashup making its way back on to the show.

[Ben Weldon]

(Probably partial) Setlist for next week's finale, courtesy of iTunes:

Faithfully
Any Way You Want It/ Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'
Don't Stop Believin'
Bohemian Rhapsody (Feat. Jonathan Groff)
To Sir With Love
Over The Rainbow


I'm glad to see a mashup making its way back on to the show.

'Any Way You Want It/ Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin' was the finale of GLEE LIVE. Smart money is on that being the entry for regionals.

[Prime]

'Any Way You Want It/ Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin' was the finale of GLEE LIVE. Smart money is on that being the entry for regionals.

Speaking of glee live...

http://i48.tinypic.com/rclthj.jpg

[Ben Weldon]

What the heck are Hot Cheetos?

[BGPu]

God, this show could be so much better. It's going to flame out so hard.

It's my favorite new show for the 2009-2010 season, but yeah, it has the potential to overstay its welcome very quickly with the constant character/plot resets and the over-reliance on all the "gleeks" to spend $1.29 on iTunes for 4-5 songs every week.

[Dan-C]

What the heck are Hot Cheetos?

:shock: You've never heard of Hot Cheetos?!?


'Any Way You Want It/ Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin' was the finale of GLEE LIVE. Smart money is on that being the entry for regionals.

It was. And it was pretty good. They also sang Faithfully during Glee Live, and that was pretty good, too. Heck, just about all of Glee Live was good. Although I wasn't sitting close enough to see up Rachel's dress

[Prime]

:shock: You've never heard of Hot Cheetos?!?



It was. And it was pretty good. They also sang Faithfully during Glee Live, and that was pretty good, too. Heck, just about all of Glee Live was good. Although I wasn't sitting close enough to see up Rachel's dress

thats why i posted it!

:scared:

[Dude Pal]

I think the more Journey this show does the better... now if only they would do Separate Ways.

[Martin J]

thats why i posted it!

:scared:

Thank you ;)

[bartleby]

John "Rebecca Romijn" Stamos is joining the show next season in a recurring role.

[LeggoMyEggolas]

What just happened? Eff you Olivia Newton-John. Elitist bitch.

[BGPu]

It pretty much went how I thought it would based on the songs on the soundtrack. Still, a great fun finale.

[Stupendous Man]

Just when I think I can't love Glee anymore they go and pull out Faithfully. Fuck, I love that song.

And is it just me or has Rachel been looking cute as hell the last couple of episodes?

[Mikie]

Seemed like pretty much the same ending we got before the break.

[Zack_Hunter]

What just happened? Eff you Olivia Newton-John. Elitist bitch.

Gruber I expected to play a douche but Olivia it felt came out of nowhere.

[bartleby]

Man, this episode was just not very good aside from the performances at Regionals.


And to finish the season with "To Sir, With Love" and the ukulele version of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow." Blech!

[Mister Mets]

The finale was okay. A lot of stuff just ended with a whimper, although that's true of a lot of stuff at high school/ work.


John "Rebecca Romijn" Stamos is joining the show next season in a recurring role.

Apparently he's going to be Emma's dentist.

[Ben Weldon]

A satisfying finale. I agree it felt a bit like the sectionals episode (apart from the obvious) but i'll take "To Sir, With Love" over "My Life Would Suck" any day. The "Bohemian Rhapsody"/Quinn giving birth montage was excellent.

[Black Roman]

The Bohemian Rhapsody number was awesome, it's one of my favorite songs, and I think they did a good job of delivering a performance that you CAN argue was much better than the New Directions.

Also, Josh Groban!! :heart:

[Black Roman]

John "Rebecca Romijn" Stamos is joining the show next season in a recurring role.

:?:


Just when I think I can't love Glee anymore they go and pull out Faithfully. Fuck, I love that song.

And is it just me or has Rachel been looking cute as hell the last couple of episodes?

I enjoyed it too.




Apparently he's going to be Emma's dentist.

Damn, if my dentist was John Stamos, I'd definitely go to see him more often . . .

[Shade]

The Bohemian Rhapsody number was awesome, it's one of my favorite songs, and I think they did a good job of delivering a performance that you CAN argue was much better than the New Directions.

Also, Josh Groban!! :heart:

I really didn't like the Bohrmian Rhapsody number. Intercutting it with Quinn giving birth ruined it.

[Fourthman]

I really didn't like the Bohrmian Rhapsody number. Intercutting it with Quinn giving birth ruined it.

Agreed.

In other news, they're reviving Funny Girl on B'way in 2012. Michele is in the running, but, of course, her availability would be limited. I think between Wall-E and her rendition of "Don't Rain on My Parade", I might check it out.

[Ben Weldon]

One thing i worry about is going to the 'Sue is really a good person deep down' well too often. I Don't want Sue to be a good person deep down. I Want Sue to be Yosemite Sam deep down.

[Black Roman]

One thing i worry about is going to the 'Sue is really a good person deep down' well too often. I Don't want Sue to be a good person deep down. I Want Sue to be Yosemite Sam deep down.

it does make sense that Sue would want to keep her arch nemesis around . . . every hero (Sue) needs a villain (Will.)

[Stupendous Man]

Agreed.

In other news, they're reviving Funny Girl on B'way in 2012. Michele is in the running, but, of course, her availability would be limited. I think between Wall-E and her rendition of "Don't Rain on My Parade", I might check it out.

Wait, what about Wall-E?

[Fourthman]

One thing i worry about is going to the 'Sue is really a good person deep down' well too often. I Don't want Sue to be a good person deep down. I Want Sue to be Yosemite Sam deep down.

The well is there, and they know it doesn't work if they visit it more than, say, 3 times a year.

[Fourthman]

Wait, what about Wall-E?

Sorry, Wall-E was Hello, Dolly as my musical theater major wife just reminded me. Still tragically straight.

[Mister Mets]

Someone recommended this as something that should be covered on Glee.

I agree.

http://djearworm.com/united-state-of-pop-2009-blame-it-on-the-pop.htm

[Stupendous Man]

Someone recommended this as something that should be covered on Glee.

I agree.

http://djearworm.com/united-state-of-pop-2009-blame-it-on-the-pop.htm

Yeah, those things are pretty awesome. I'll also agree that the mash-ups are always some of the best Glee performance. The United States of Pop mixes might be a bit ambitious to accomplish with just vocals though.

[bartleby]

I really didn't like the Bohrmian Rhapsody number. Intercutting it with Quinn giving birth ruined it.

That was the one part of the episode that I actually liked a lot.

[bartleby]

GLEE's laissez-faire attitude toward copyright law may put it at odds with News Corp's policies. (http://balkin.blogspot.com/2010/06/copyright-elephant-in-middle-of-glee.html)

[BGPu]

GLEE's laissez-faire attitude toward copyright law may put it at odds with News Corp's policies. (http://balkin.blogspot.com/2010/06/copyright-elephant-in-middle-of-glee.html)

I think the writer is taking the show a little too seriously. On the other hand I have noticed that lots of the camps/youth theatre groups around here are running GLEE club programs this summer, so maybe it's a valid concern.

[Dude Pal]

Was I the only one who was creeped out that Idina Menzel heard Quinn's baby was born, and immediately headed down to the Hospital to try and snag it?

[bartleby]

I think the writer is taking the show a little too seriously. On the other hand I have noticed that lots of the camps/youth theatre groups around here are running GLEE club programs this summer, so maybe it's a valid concern.

Well, the writer is a lawyer and a visiting Fellow at Yale, so serious is kinda what she does.


But I think the concern is that it is a serious issue that GLEE glosses over because the show wallows in simplicity. The problem is that the audience, particularly the youth audience, takes its cues from that simplicity and is never challenged by the actual complexity of the reality of the situation.

[bartleby]

Was I the only one who was creeped out that Idina Menzel heard Quinn's baby was born, and immediately headed down to the Hospital to try and snag it?

That whole thing was pretty selfish. She basically says that the only reason she wants a daughter is for her own personal benefit. So she throws Rachel to the curb, even though she still expresses her need for a mother, in favor of the newborn.

[Mister Mets]

That whole thing was pretty selfish. She basically says that the only reason she wants a daughter is for her own personal benefit. So she throws Rachel to the curb, even though she still expresses her need for a mother, in favor of the newborn.I thought it was a bit complicated. Rachel told her about the baby girl.

And she figured it was too late to have a real mother/ daughter relationship with Rachel.

I doubt she'd be able to adopt so quickly, though.

[Dan-C]

I really didn't like the Bohrmian Rhapsody number. Intercutting it with Quinn giving birth ruined it.

Completely, 100% disagree. I thought it was done really well.

Liked Sue writing in New Directions as first place. Always nice when they make her a softie, even for just a moment.

The thing I liked the least is the storyline about Rachel's mom. What a bitch. She has her own daughter sitting there in front of her begging for attention, offering this woman the chance to be the mother she hasn't been, and the bitch pulls a Larry King-like "I want the younger, cuter version." I wish they would continue with that storyline, but it A: seems resolved in the show's eyes, and B: I don't think Menzel was contracted past season 1's episodes. And I know they've already started writing Season 2, so... probably not coming back any time soon.

[ValeriaK]

I think the news of an approved third season sort of ruined the finale for me. When they were all crying "oh we're going to be disbanded/it's all over" you just knew that wasn't going to happen because a third season has already been approved. They should have kept that bit of news till after the season finale.

[Black Roman]

I think the news of an approved third season sort of ruined the finale for me. When they were all crying "oh we're going to be disbanded/it's all over" you just knew that wasn't going to happen because a third season has already been approved. They should have kept that bit of news till after the season finale.

Actually, I don't think that was the point of the episode, the point of all the "disbanding stuff" was to showcase just how important the Glee club was to every single member of the club . . . was it a cheap device, yes, but it worked. And honestly, I've seen worse plot devices. I actually thought they'd at least place, so that shocked me.

[Black Roman]

Oh did no one else catch the Jesse James diss in the episode?


"Turned out he cheated on me with some tattooed freak . . . "

[Fourthman]

Oh did no one else catch the Jesse James diss in the episode?


"Turned out he cheated on me with some tattooed freak . . . "

Like they needed to do that when Newton-John's last guy faked his own death to get out of the relationship.

[Mister Mets]

Actually, I don't think that was the point of the episode, the point of all the "disbanding stuff" was to showcase just how important the Glee club was to every single member of the club . . . was it a cheap device, yes, but it worked. And honestly, I've seen worse plot devices. I actually thought they'd at least place, so that shocked me.

I saw Sue Sylvester's "conversion" coming, but that did give an out for the team to not go on to Nationals, while still keeping Glee club around.

I'm wondering if they wanted to avoid that as it could limit the next seasons. They could place in Season 2, and win in Season 3.

[Mister Mets]

Oh did no one else catch the Jesse James diss in the episode?


"Turned out he cheated on me with some tattooed freak . . . "

Ah, Charlotte Ross. So hot on NYPD Blue.

It would have been funny to see her reaction to discovering that Finn wasn't the babydaddy (especially if her husband just cheated on her.)

[BGPu]

I'm wondering if they wanted to avoid that as it could limit the next seasons. They could place in Season 2, and win in Season 3.

I read somewhere that Ryan Murphy has mapped out 3 seasons for the show, so that scenario would make sense. At that point you could logically end the show with the kids graduating.

Whether Fox allows them to is another question.

[joshsapien]

i just started watching in March, or whenever it came back from the break, and i haven't heard reference to which grade the students are in. does anyone with more of an inside track know if they are planning on replacing the Glee Club members every so often?

-josh

[Black Roman]

I know there are definitely some new kids coming in next season, as for whether they are going to go the Friday Night Lights route, with new kids coming in when the old ones graduate, that remains to be seen.

[BGPu]

i just started watching in March, or whenever it came back from the break, and i haven't heard reference to which grade the students are in. does anyone with more of an inside track know if they are planning on replacing the Glee Club members every so often?

-josh

Sophmores/Juniors is what most people assume. They've never actually said...

[Mister Mets]

I was under the impression some of them were established as sophomores.


I read somewhere that Ryan Murphy has mapped out 3 seasons for the show, so that scenario would make sense. At that point you could logically end the show with the kids graduating.

Whether Fox allows them to is another question.I doubt Fox wants to end the show that quickly.

I'm sure they're currently trying to figure out an alternative to graduation. Few shows handle these types of transitions well.

They could "cheat" by avoiding "real time" (so two seasons would represent an year.)

Every idea under the sun for continuing the show's probably been discussed. It could be interesting to see a few of them stick together as a band or something.

[Dan-C]

i just started watching in March, or whenever it came back from the break, and i haven't heard reference to which grade the students are in. does anyone with more of an inside track know if they are planning on replacing the Glee Club members every so often?

-josh

via my wife: A couple of weeks ago Puck and either Kurt/ Artie were on Ryan Seacrest's morning radio show. Apparently Ryan Murphy called in and when asked for scoop said that at least one of those two characters would be auditioning to keep their spot in Glee next season. So there will likely be some new characters added throught the next two seasons.

Although, I found it incredibly ironic last night when the black backup singer kid said "I used to be just a football player". I thought to myself, "and now you are... a backup singer in Glee club who's name no one remembers?"

[Black Roman]

via my wife: A couple of weeks ago Puck and either Kurt/ Artie were on Ryan Seacrest's morning radio show. Apparently Ryan Murphy called in and when asked for scoop said that at least one of those two characters would be auditioning to keep their spot in Glee next season. So there will likely be some new characters added throught the next two seasons.

Although, I found it incredibly ironic last night when the black backup singer kid said "I used to be just a football player". I thought to myself, "and now you are... a backup singer in Glee club who's name no one remembers?"

He's still better off than 'other Asian.'


:D

[chazbot]

Great finale.

Oh, and I think it'd be a better reflection to have students in different grades so as some graduate, others come in to take their place. Works better than having the whole cast graduate at the same time.

[Dan-C]

He's still better off than 'other Asian.'


:D

Nah. Other Asian is a way better dancer.

[gaspar]

Although, I found it incredibly ironic last night when the black backup singer kid said "I used to be just a football player". I thought to myself, "and now you are... a backup singer in Glee club who's name no one remembers?"

He's still better off than 'other Asian.'

My wife and I have been joking about those 2 characters for the last several weeks. We keep expecting them to build the characters into SOMETHING! Everyone else has had at least one episode where they were a significant part of the backup storyline or had some sort of character development. But not those 2...they're there every week and every week I still don't know their names or anything about them other than "backup singer" and "cool dance moves."

There's always next season...

[Ben Weldon]

Ryan Murphy has joked that McKinley High is a "ten-year term high school" so i think they will most likely cheat the timeline.

[Ray G.]

I was under the impression some of them were established as sophomores.

I doubt Fox wants to end the show that quickly.

I'm sure they're currently trying to figure out an alternative to graduation. Few shows handle these types of transitions well.

They could "cheat" by avoiding "real time" (so two seasons would represent an year.)

Every idea under the sun for continuing the show's probably been discussed. It could be interesting to see a few of them stick together as a band or something.

I think they'll "Friday Night Lights" it. Most of the characters will graduate. New kids will come in. A few will stick around in alternative roles (Rachel and Kurt as volunteers for the club while they're in college, for instance), and some others will get sendoff arcs and leave the show.

[Ray G.]

I saw Sue Sylvester's "conversion" coming, but that did give an out for the team to not go on to Nationals, while still keeping Glee club around.

I'm wondering if they wanted to avoid that as it could limit the next seasons. They could place in Season 2, and win in Season 3.

Speaking of FNL...

They won the championship their first season, since it was kind of needed for the storyarc (their star player was paralyzed in the first game of the season). But since then, they can't win every year, so every season since has ended in a depressing way with a big loss.

I definitely think they want to avert that here. But I think they win in season two, since the plotline of taking down Vocal Adrenaline needs to be fulfilled before people forget how much they hate them.

[bartleby]

I get the feeling that after three seasons, the show and all the characters will all have worn out their welcome, and keeping them around any longer won't really be an issue.

[chazbot]

I get the feeling that after three seasons, the show and all the characters will all have worn out their welcome, and keeping them around any longer won't really be an issue.

Staggering casts might help that a little, but it would be much better for them to go out on a three-year arc than bring in a new cast to do it all over again. Or even worse, Glee: The College Years.

[Ben Weldon]

Harry"Other Asian'"Chum is part of "The Legion of Extraordinary Dancers" (LXD) who have a upcoming web series that might help take the edge of the GLEE withdrawals.

LXD (http://www.thelxd.com/)

[BGPu]

My wife and I have been joking about those 2 characters for the last several weeks. We keep expecting them to build the characters into SOMETHING! Everyone else has had at least one episode where they were a significant part of the backup storyline or had some sort of character development. But not those 2...they're there every week and every week I still don't know their names or anything about them other than "backup singer" and "cool dance moves."

Unless those 2 guys and Brittany are seeing a vocal coach, I doubt we'll see much more from them than one liners.


I get the feeling that after three seasons, the show and all the characters will all have worn out their welcome, and keeping them around any longer won't really be an issue.

Are you saying that people will tire of paying $1.29 a pop for Glee Cast versions of cheesy 80's & 90's songs?

[Stupendous Man]

Sophmores/Juniors is what most people assume. They've never actually said...

I seem to recall Finn saying he was 17 in an episode and Rachel saying she was 16 in another.

[joshsapien]

yeah, Rachel made some mention of the year she was born (i think it was 1994) so she'd be 16. but that means either sophomore or junior. but mostly, as far as the show is concerned, it means one or two more years in high school.

-josh

[The Dean]

I don't like Christian Bale as Batman. His fanged teeth and growly voice are too comical.

[Stupendous Man]

Harry"Other Asian'"Chum is part of "The Legion of Extraordinary Dancers" (LXD) who have a upcoming web series that might help take the edge of the GLEE withdrawals.

LXD (http://www.thelxd.com/)

That has me slightly intrigued.

[bartleby]

I don't think Menzel was contracted past season 1's episodes. And I know they've already started writing Season 2, so... probably not coming back any time soon.

Jonathan Groff and Idina Menzell May Return. They're still figuring out the plan for season two, but according to Dante Di Loreto, Jonathan "did a great job. He's the nicest guy in the world. He came out on the tour with us and the audience loved him. I sure hope he gets a chance to come back on." As for Idina? "I hope there's an opportunity for her to be back. I think she's a really interesting character."

Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b185101_five_glee_finale_secrets_will_emma_kiss.ht ml

[Mikie]

it does make sense that Sue would want to keep her arch nemesis around . . . every hero (Sue) needs a villain (Will.)

Right, but will you really believe she is out to get rid of Glee Club next season?

[bartleby]

Right, but will you really believe she is out to get rid of Glee Club next season?

The obvious solution to that would be to give her some goal other than getting rid of glee club.

[Mikie]

I was under the impression some of them were established as sophomores.

I doubt Fox wants to end the show that quickly.

I'm sure they're currently trying to figure out an alternative to graduation. Few shows handle these types of transitions well.

They could "cheat" by avoiding "real time" (so two seasons would represent an year.)

Every idea under the sun for continuing the show's probably been discussed. It could be interesting to see a few of them stick together as a band or something.

We'll see what happens with season two. A lot of shows tend to fumble a bit in the second season and the numbers might not leave Fox necessarily wanting more than three...or possibly more than two.

[Mikie]

The obvious solution to that would be to give her some goal other than getting rid of glee club.

Like what? Not saying you're wrong, but what would put her as the club's nemesis where she wasn't trying to take them down?

[bartleby]

Like what? Not saying you're wrong, but what would put her as the club's nemesis where she wasn't trying to take them down?

Maybe just trying to get rid of Will Schuster or otherwise ruining his personal life while not messing with glee club specifically. Or maybe somebody else emerges that she sees as more of a threat to the order she has established than Schuster and glee club did.

[LeggoMyEggolas]

Maybe just trying to get rid of Will Schuster or otherwise ruining his personal life while not messing with glee club specifically. Or maybe somebody else emerges that she sees as more of a threat to the order she has established than Schuster and glee club did.

Perhaps the Molly Shannon character if they decide to bring her back?

[Ben Weldon]

Fox has quietly scrapped the reality show they were planning to use to cast new roles on Glee. Ryan Murphy decided he just didn't have time to take on a new show. But all those videos are still being watched, and the best will still get a role on Glee, even if it's just for one episode.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/06/glee_reality_show_canceled.html

[dEnny!]

That season finale was AMAZING!

Great way to finish up. I'll be picking up the complete season for my wife and I to enjoy.

DON'T STOP BELIEVING!

[dEnny!]

I'm seriously going to puke in your mouth.

[dEnny!]

And it finished with one of my favorite songs EVER!

Over the Rainbow

[Supreme Convoy]

So I watched Glee for the first time. Does it take place in the same McKinley High as Freaks & Geeks?

[MayorMitch100]

So I watched Glee for the first time. Does it take place in the same McKinley High as Freaks & Geeks?

glee is in Ohio

Freaks and Geeks is in Michigan.


Close but no cigar Convoy.

[DarkKnightJared]

How was the second season, by the way? I kinda slipped on my watching of television by then, and from the looks of it, it seemed to really go downhill with all the celebrity guests.

[Roger]

i just finished watching the second half of season 1 again.
i love this show. i can't wait for season 2!!!!

hopefully joss will come back and direct another episode. (his was the best one from season 1)

[bartleby]

glee is in Ohio

Freaks and Geeks is in Michigan.


Close but no cigar Convoy.

If Zach Morris can attend one school that's first John F. Kennedy Junior High School in Indianapolis, Indiana and then Bayside High School in Palisades, California...

[Ben Weldon]

Cheyenne Jackson (Danny from "30 Rock")will be playing the new coach for Vocal Adrenaline next season.

[Ben Weldon]

How was the second season, by the way? I kinda slipped on my watching of television by then, and from the looks of it, it seemed to really go downhill with all the celebrity guests.

By "all the celebrity guests" do you mean Olivia Newton John? The "Physical" video was a bit of a groner but it was just one scene.

[Prime]

By "all the celebrity guests" do you mean Olivia Newton John? The "Physical" video was a bit of a groner but it was just one scene.

Neil Patrick Harris.

[Ben Weldon]

Neil Patrick Harris.

That was a really good episode.

[Ben Weldon]

A newly launched radio station in Oxford, England, exclusively plays songs from Glee all day, every day. Aimed at women under 30, Glee FM currently has a catalogue of just 80 songs. That number will increase when Glee's second season begins, to the disappointment of people who like to hear the cast recording of "Don't Stop Believin'" every four hours.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Glee-FM-Radio-Station-Launches-In-Oxford-To-Play-Only-Songs-From-Hit-US-Series/Article/201008315692246?lpos=Showbiz_News_Top_Stories_Head er_4&lid=ARTICLE_15692246_Glee_FM_Radio_Station_Launche s_In_Oxford_To_Play_Only_Songs_From_Hit_US_Series

[OzMan]

watching season 1 now and catching up with the lady, and so far it's surprisingly entertaining and I get stuck wanting more each time.

Looking forward to the second season.

[Ben Weldon]

A really strong start for season 2.

[Black Roman]

Really enjoyed that episode. The musical numbers were strong and it's pleasing to see that they haven't really changed the status quo of the season really.


Brittany/Britney episode is next week. So that should be interesting. :lol:

[Fourthman]

Really enjoyed that episode. The musical numbers were strong and it's pleasing to see that they haven't really changed the status quo of the season really.


Brittany/Britney episode is next week. So that should be interesting. :lol:

I didn't like (is this thread spoiler free? let me know)
that they introduce two new people and then remove them by episode's end. I mean, I know the guy will come back faster than the Philipina chick, but I'd rather see her again sooner than later. At least they did a strong show tune I know to close. I know we'll probably see a lot of cast change over the course of the season, and it's all about building expectation, but aren't we just coming OUT of a huge downer for the club? I guess the summer break is a reset button.

[Ben Weldon]

"People thought I went on vacation, but actually I spent the summer lost in the sewers."

[bartleby]

"People thought I went on vacation, but actually I spent the summer lost in the sewers."

That felt like a real jump-the-shark moment for Brittany. They've taken her innocent stupidity and elevated it to a level that's now unbelievable.

[Dark Sasha]

I like how the girl who got a boob job looks the same.

[LeggoMyEggolas]

I like how the girl who got a boob job looks the same.

Yeah I thought the same thing. Must have been the subtlest boob job ever. :lol:

But I didn't expect the catfight that ensued to be as vicious as it was. Then again remembering catfights I saw in school, I'm forgetting how brutal they really do get.

[Fourthman]

I like how the girl who got a boob job looks the same.

Especially with the opportunity to highlight it at episode's end with her on all fours.