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Big McLargeHuge
03-05-2010, 07:34 AM
So what'd you all think? I dug it quite a bit and appreciated the Avett Brothers love at the beginning. I did get a lot of deja vu with Peter Krause's running(Six Feet Under) and Lauren Graham's line delivery(Gilmore Girls). Thoughts?

BGPu
03-05-2010, 08:48 AM
We watched the pilot last night. For a show that has been marketed as a "family show" during the Olympics it was kind of depressing. They really beat you over the head with certain things. The characters all seem pretty lightweight (the screw-up mom / the perfect dad who finds out his family isn't so perfect / the professional mom who realizes that her parenting is lackluster / the commitment-phobic brother who's suddenly thrust into being a dad). All they need is the token gay/lesbian sibling. Yet they're all tied together by the loving grandparents, and their palatial family compound, who have been through it all before.

It was decent and we'll stick with it for a couple weeks to see how it goes. Lauren Graham's character seemed to not suit her, like they didn't rewrite it from when Maura Tierney was cast in the role.

Ryudo
03-05-2010, 08:51 AM
I was surprised that this didn't have its own thread, with all the GG love on this board.

I enjoyed the show. It's definitely going to be more drama than funny, but it had some really nice moments in there. It's an addition to our DVR lineup.

John M. Coker (Johnny C.)
03-05-2010, 08:56 AM
I really enjoyed what I saw of it, the cast is fantastic. I missed a few parts though as I was flipping between it and NXT.

leviathan
03-05-2010, 09:40 AM
I really enjoyed it. The cast is brilliant and the stories seem like they could be interesting, if a bit cliche at times.

The Clone Ranger
03-05-2010, 10:22 AM
Crap. I forgot it was on. Are they going to be showing it again soon?

BGPu
03-05-2010, 10:23 AM
Crap. I forgot it was on. Are they going to be showing it again soon?

I believe they are showing it again Saturday night. And on the USA network sometime next week.

WhindamPryce
03-05-2010, 10:33 AM
I watched the first 20 min. Thought it was bland as hell. Turned it off.

bartleby
03-05-2010, 10:33 AM
I was surprised that this didn't have its own thread, with all the GG love on this board.

Not to mention that the showrunner is FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS's Jason Katims, and it was directed by Aaron Sorkin's usual director Thommy Schlamme.

Big McLargeHuge
03-05-2010, 10:43 AM
Crap. I forgot it was on. Are they going to be showing it again soon?

I watched it on Hulu, so there's always that.

Big McLargeHuge
03-05-2010, 10:47 AM
Not to mention that the showrunner is FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS's Jason Katims, and it was directed by Aaron Sorkin's usual director Thommy Schlamme.

Yeah, there's one serious pedigree behind the show.

Sarcastro
03-05-2010, 11:04 AM
I dug the episode. The cast is frickin' ridiculous. Looking forward to more.

shoelaceless
03-05-2010, 11:19 AM
Like I said in another thread, the bay area references are really distracting to me. Not a bad episode though.

PatrickA
03-05-2010, 12:01 PM
Cast was great but the show was bland.

dougmac
03-05-2010, 12:39 PM
Yeah, there's one serious pedigree behind the show.

he's also done a lot of bad stuff too (pepper Dennis, the Pallbearer, Bionic Woman, Relativity, etc.). FNL is really Peter Berg's baby, the one time he took a step away was when Katims gave us Landry the murderer.

bartleby
03-05-2010, 12:50 PM
he's also done a lot of bad stuff too (pepper Dennis, the Pallbearer, Bionic Woman, Relativity, etc.). FNL is really Peter Berg's baby, the one time he took a step away was when Katims gave us Landry the murderer.

Peter Berg's busy with movies. He really hasn't been that involved with the series in a day-to-day capacity.

RebootedCorpse
03-05-2010, 01:01 PM
Meh

greg donovan
03-08-2010, 06:24 PM
We watched the pilot last night. For a show that has been marketed as a "family show" during the Olympics it was kind of depressing. They really beat you over the head with certain things. The characters all seem pretty lightweight (the screw-up mom / the perfect dad who finds out his family isn't so perfect / the professional mom who realizes that her parenting is lackluster / the commitment-phobic brother who's suddenly thrust into being a dad). All they need is the token gay/lesbian sibling. Yet they're all tied together by the loving grandparents, and their palatial family compound, who have been through it all before.

It was decent and we'll stick with it for a couple weeks to see how it goes. Lauren Graham's character seemed to not suit her, like they didn't rewrite it from when Maura Tierney was cast in the role.

have you seen the movie Parenthood? it is a huge fucking downer at times.

nick maynard
03-08-2010, 08:07 PM
it wasn't GREAT but i think it has the potential to eventually find its footing. with that much talent working on it, it's hard to believe it won't get better eventually.

Supreme Convoy
03-08-2010, 08:09 PM
The premiere didn't grab me liked I hope. I also had a different expectation since the commercials made it look light & fun whereas the actual show had more drama.

Though I'm still giving it a chance as I love Lauren Graham.

dougmac
03-08-2010, 08:11 PM
Peter Berg's busy with movies. He really hasn't been that involved with the series in a day-to-day capacity.

Not according to him. In a couple of podcasts with ESPN's Bill Simmons he talks about how he's very involved still and that's partially because FNL was his cousin's book and he told him he better not fuck it uop when he gave him the rights to it first for the movie, then for the tv show and partially because when he did step away a bit they got the LAndry and Tyra kill an attempted rapist and try to cover it up storyline.

Wigner's Friend
03-08-2010, 09:08 PM
To me, it feel like they crammed a seasons worth of story lines into the pilot episode. It needs a little more Aunt May at the psychiatrist if I'm going to stay interested. There didn't allow any tension to rise. Instead, everything was just confronted at the moment of conception.

Everyone involved is way to talented to let this minor league storytelling continue though....I hope.

BGPu
03-09-2010, 08:23 AM
have you seen the movie Parenthood? it is a huge fucking downer at times.

It's been years since I've seen the movie. I seem to remember the jist of it being that life can be really rough, but if you have kids that makes it all worthwhile, or something like that.

Like other people have said, they really crammed a lot into the pilot, making the feel of the show overly ham-fisted and depressing.

"There's something wrong with my son!" says the perfect world dad, emphatically, to his wise father. In the darkened playground. In the rain.

It's a bit over the top...

Dan-C
03-09-2010, 08:28 AM
Watched it last night. It was solid. Not perfect or wonderful, but definitely solid. It hit all of the notes a family dramedy should hit. One part Brothers and Sisters, one part Modern Family. Shake and serve in a chilled glass.

I'll probably give it a couple more episodes to do something original.

Big McLargeHuge
03-09-2010, 08:54 AM
I agree it was overloaded, but it is the pilot episode. You need a pilot to get greenlit(unless you're J.J. Abrams), so you might as well just go apeshit.

BGPu
03-11-2010, 09:19 AM
We watched the second episode last night. A little funnier. Less of a downer. I kind of related to the one guy's obsession with the opossum, given my experience with raccoon invaders.

As a graphic designer, the subplot with Lauren Graham trying to land a job at the ultra-hip design agency was a bit laughable. "Wow! You did these 15-20 years ago without using any modern design tools/software? I am very impressed. We'll be talking to you again very soon."

Zeppe
11-16-2010, 07:34 PM
For some reason our DVR hadn't been recording this (not sure if that is good or bad), but my wife and I watched this nights episode and WALLACE (from The Wire) is on this show now! My Wire loving heart was happy to see that kid on something else!

shoelaceless
11-16-2010, 07:39 PM
There's something very weird about the dialogue in this show. I don't know if it's unscripted, or if everyone is just encouraged to improvise and they aren't very good at it, but a lot of the characters sound exasperated and unnatural most of the time. Surprisingly, Dax Shepard manages to be one of the more believable actors on this show.

BGPu
11-16-2010, 07:44 PM
My wife and I watched this for a while but we dropped it a few weeks ago. It's a good show, but every single episode revolves around one of the Bravermans doing something (usually some mundane thing that is blown out of proportion for dramatic purposes) that deeply hurts one of the other Bravermans, and they spend the rest of the episode being mad at each other before making up because they love each other. And then the entire gets together at the end to cheer one of the kids on at a soccer match.

bartleby
04-20-2011, 05:38 AM
Why are more of you people not watching PARENTHOOD?

Kedd
04-20-2011, 07:43 AM
Why are more of you people not watching PARENTHOOD?
This sounds like a request that people currently watching the show stop...

Kedd
04-20-2011, 07:44 AM
At any rate, I honestly keep forgetting this sow is even on. I watched the first 6 or so episodes and found the show itself kind of boring, but I liked most of the actors so I pretty much forced myself to watch, hoping it would grab me at some point. No luck. The movie was on the other night though.

Ryudo
04-20-2011, 07:50 AM
It's a great show. I am enjoying the different arcs. It is hard to pull a show together with that many characters but I think they are doing a good job.

MayorMitch100
07-11-2014, 08:05 PM
Still good 5 years in.

The Governor
07-12-2014, 12:11 AM
We've watched it up to the end of series five. It's an odd show overall, most of the problems the characters have a real 1st world issues to deal with, although what's most impressive is that problems that take normal people years to sort out they resolve in an episode :D

It's incredibly unrealistic, with incredibly unrealistic relationships and personalities, but decent enough lightweight TV.

dEnny!
09-02-2014, 09:52 AM
We've watched it up to the end of series five. It's an odd show overall, most of the problems the characters have a real 1st world issues to deal with, although what's most impressive is that problems that take normal people years to sort out they resolve in an episode :D

It's incredibly unrealistic, with incredibly unrealistic relationships and personalities, but decent enough lightweight TV.

I can't tell what you are saying about the show dealing with "1st World Issues." Is that a good or bad thing to you?

Ray G.
09-02-2014, 09:56 AM
Holy fuck, season five of this show was death.

Joel to get hit by a bus in the opening five minutes of S6, plz.

I AM GROOT!
09-02-2014, 10:06 AM
Holy fuck, season five of this show was death. Joel to get hit by a bus in the opening five minutes of S6, plz. Nah, I like Joel. He was a good character during the first four seasons. When the final season starts, it should start with Joel waking up and realizing that the entire fifth season was a dream, one in which he was a jerk, and he realizes that he never wants to be that type of guy. He also vaguely recalls dreaming that Haddie was a lesbian.

Ray G.
09-02-2014, 10:07 AM
Nah, I like Joel. He was a good character during the first four seasons. When the final season starts, it should start with Joel waking up and realizing that the entire fifth season was a dream, one in which he was a jerk, and he realizes that he never wants to be that type of guy.

He also vaguely recalls dreaming that Haddie was a lesbian.

This could work too. :)

dEnny!
09-02-2014, 10:09 AM
Currently on Episode 8 of Season 5 so SPOILERS! :p

dEnny!
09-02-2014, 10:11 AM
Joel has been a jerk, but Julia is a control freak and emotionally cheating on him. She needs to settle down

I AM GROOT!
09-02-2014, 10:12 AM
Currently on Episode 8 of Season 5 so SPOILERS! :p

Oops! Sorry, Denny!

dEnny!
09-02-2014, 10:13 AM
Oops! Sorry, Denny!

I'm teasing.

The Braverman clan needs to relax.

I AM GROOT!
09-02-2014, 10:17 AM
I'm teasing. The Braverman clan needs to relax.

They've always been a somewhat uptight bunch. I'm surprised they haven't all died from heart attacks by the age of 40. ;)

dEnny!
09-02-2014, 10:19 AM
They've always been a somewhat uptight bunch. I'm surprised they haven't all died from heart attacks by the age of 40. ;)

I sometimes wonder why I watch this show as it physically and emotionally exhausts me. :D

I've Got the Monkeys
09-02-2014, 10:46 AM
I just wish everybody would stop talking and yelling at the same time!

dEnny!
09-02-2014, 12:08 PM
I just wish everybody would stop talking and yelling at the same time!

Yeah, that wears me out.

MayorMitch100
09-02-2014, 12:12 PM
I stuck up for Joel after Julia turned into a bitch.

dEnny!
09-02-2014, 12:19 PM
I stuck up for Joel after Julia turned into a bitch.

I have a hard time defending her when it comes to cheating on her husband, even if it's currently emotionally, but the problem I have with her is she's way too controlling. She's a power, uber, A type personality, high achieving, and a worrier, whew...

But Joel flying off the handle and ignoring the problem and forgetting what it was like being the caregiver of the children isn't cool.

Now her son going off on being held back kind of annoys me. He's mad at her because he can't read. Look dude, sorry you're behind, let's catch you up and solve the problem, quit whining, MAN UP! :D

I'm not a nurturer. :p

MayorMitch100
09-02-2014, 12:21 PM
Joel is my favorite dad on the show.


No spoilers for Denny but Adam becomes my fave again towards the end, I think it's the second to last episode.

dEnny!
09-02-2014, 12:27 PM
Joel is my favorite dad on the show.


No spoilers for Denny but Adam becomes my fave again towards the end, I think it's the second to last episode.

Crosby is about to get into trouble with the voting thing.

dEnny!
09-02-2014, 12:29 PM
This show gets me way too weepy!

MayorMitch100
09-02-2014, 12:33 PM
Crosby is about to get into trouble with the voting thing.
Ah. Yes, Crosby is cool.

This show gets me way too weepy!

I know! I almost cry like every damn episode!

dEnny!
09-02-2014, 12:39 PM
Ah. Yes, Crosby is cool.


I know! I almost cry like every damn episode!

Crosby may be mildly impaired mentally...YOU CAN NOT PAY PEOPLE TO VOTE! FOR YOUR SISTER!!!

dEnny!
09-02-2014, 12:40 PM
And Amber is a mess. She creates ALL of her problems. If she's not making bad decisions...no, she just makes tons of bad decisions.

dEnny!
09-02-2014, 12:44 PM
Joel is my favorite dad on the show.


No spoilers for Denny but Adam becomes my fave again towards the end, I think it's the second to last episode.

She was totally wrong to barge into his office. :nonono2:

MayorMitch100
09-02-2014, 01:23 PM
She was totally wrong to barge into his office. :nonono2:

Yeah, I was not a big fan of Julia from the beginning. But I always thought they had the best family as well. It was great. Then season 5 started and she couldn't handle not having a job anymore.

I did really like the move from Joel being at home to her being at home. Thought that was an interesting idea to play out and see what they would do.

dEnny!
09-05-2014, 05:01 AM
So I'm on the episode where Max is getting sent to the library during History class and his parents are mad about this, except it seems to me like Max is intentionally getting sent to the library. He doesn't want to be there, he obviously is sharp and knows a lot of history probably further along than his classmates, so he seems to be disruptive and interrupting the teacher to get out of there. And if they aren't happy with the best the public school system can provide their son, then they should look into private school, home school, etc.

dEnny!
09-05-2014, 05:36 AM
So I'm on the episode where Max is getting sent to the library during History class and his parents are mad about this, except it seems to me like Max is intentionally getting sent to the library. He doesn't want to be there, he obviously is sharp and knows a lot of history probably further along than his classmates, so he seems to be disruptive and interrupting the teacher to get out of there. And if they aren't happy with the best the public school system can provide their son, then they should look into private school, home school, etc.

WOW! Kristina and Adam Braverman are NUTS! :)

I've Got the Monkeys
09-05-2014, 06:34 AM
WOW! Kristina and Adam Braverman are NUTS! :)

denny, the half of it has not been made knownst to you.

dEnny!
09-05-2014, 08:13 AM
denny, the half of it has not been made knownst to you.

Kristina is out of control defending her child. She should know better than anyone how Max can be. Sort of gets old how she's pissed at EVERYONE ELSE for her son's behavior.

I've Got the Monkeys
09-05-2014, 08:48 AM
Kristina is out of control defending her child. She should know better than anyone how Max can be. Sort of gets old how she's pissed at EVERYONE ELSE for her son's behavior.

oh, I agree with you.

I'm trying to say, with as little spoilerness as possible, that Adam and Kristina get up to even more levels of Cuh-razy in regards to Max.

dEnny!
09-05-2014, 09:22 AM
oh, I agree with you.

I'm trying to say, with as little spoilerness as possible, that Adam and Kristina get up to even more levels of Cuh-razy in regards to Max.

I can't imagine the situation is easy and parents normally are pretty clueless/delusional about their kids, and I'm just as guilty of it I'm sure with mine.

dEnny!
09-05-2014, 09:30 AM
Okay, Max just swung into getting my sympathy. Kids can be dicks! :mad:

Ray G.
09-05-2014, 09:34 AM
Okay, Max just swung into getting my sympathy. Kids can be dicks! :mad:

Max pretty much always has my sympathy. Not only does he struggle due to his disorder and kids being assholes, but he has parents who overindulge his antisocial behavior, which makes it even worse.

Ray G.
09-05-2014, 09:35 AM
This show has really always been about people making awful life choices and Craig T. Nelson and Bonnie Bedelia shaking their head at them.

dEnny!
09-05-2014, 09:38 AM
Max pretty much always has my sympathy. Not only does he struggle due to his disorder and kids being assholes, but he has parents who overindulge his antisocial behavior, which makes it even worse.

I don't always feel sorry for the kid; he's bright. Very sharp and can focus on the stuff he loves, unfortunately he can also run right over anyone in his path, he knows how to get his way, but he at least is trying to get along with people, while the kids in his school look to exclude and pick on him and wow, really that's weak. You should look out for those who need it.

I've Got the Monkeys
09-05-2014, 09:41 AM
This show has really always been about people making awful life choices and Craig T. Nelson and Bonnie Bedelia shaking their head at them.

hey! Craig T Nelson makes some pretty bad choices of his own!

MayorMitch100
09-05-2014, 10:25 AM
But surfing!

dEnny!
09-05-2014, 10:28 AM
hey! Craig T Nelson makes some pretty bad choices of his own!

Ha!

So true.

But so does Camille.

I think the worst of the children is Sydney. Her little attitude...GAH!!!!

dEnny!
09-05-2014, 10:30 AM
But surfing!

I love that Max and his dad found surfing; something they can do together. He's excited and he's smart enough he doesn't need to waste his time IN SCHOOL. He can get his work done much quicker without the rest of the kids slowing him down.

I'm holding out hope Crosby buys the house.

MayorMitch100
09-05-2014, 10:53 AM
I love that Max and his dad found surfing; something they can do together. He's excited and he's smart enough he doesn't need to waste his time IN SCHOOL. He can get his work done much quicker without the rest of the kids slowing him down.

I'm holding out hope Crosby buys the house.
The surfing was my favorite part.

dEnny!
09-05-2014, 04:56 PM
Julia...ARGH!!!!

Seriously?!?!?! That didn't take long.

Why are they not selling the house to Crosby?!?!?!

dEnny!
09-08-2014, 06:04 AM
Julia...ARGH!!!!

Seriously?!?!?! That didn't take long.

Why are they not selling the house to Crosby?!?!?!

Seriously Julia!!! Seriously. Sure doesn't take her to move long.

Joel needs to move on.

dEnny!
09-08-2014, 06:06 AM
I hate this show sometimes, makes me all weepy.

Hold your loved ones close.

Last episode...miss my dad. Hope to see my grandchildren.