Shitty Villains You'd like given new life

[Evan the Shaggy]

Pick a villain who faded into obscurity or was killed for their overall crappiness who you would want brought back in the modern era with an interesting twist given to them.

I'd nominate Demogoblin. Play up the whole crazy religious angle.

[maverick-99]

Mirror Man could be so much more sinister, creepy, horror

[jason hissong]

Roxxas.

[Matthew Brown]

Apocalypse should be cool. It's wrong how lame he got.

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

Gypsy Moth.

[JasonD]

I always thought the idea of Flag-Smasher's anti-nationalisist stance could make him a really cool antitheisis to Captain America, as well as other patriotic heroes. The problem is that I've never read a really compelling story with him. Also he needs a new costume, as his is incredibly bland.

[Matt Jay]

Death-stalker is a badass. Dardevil needs more villains. It drives me crazy that they don't bring him back.

[HeroBoy]

Clone saga Stunner from Spider-Man

[The Dean]

M.O.D.O.K.- but I wouldn't change a thing.

Blackout- I always dug his powers and costume. It's a pity nothing more was ever done with him except write him out.

Psychoman- I think a modernization of his technology from a three button device to more high tech devices, an updated costume and a modern crime story would make this guy relevant again.

[Evan the Shaggy]

M.O.D.O.K.- but I wouldn't change a thing.

Blackout- I always dug his powers and costume. It's a pity nothing more was ever done with him except write him out.

Psychoman- I think a modernization of his technology from a three button device to more high tech devices, an updated costume and a modern crime story would make this guy relevant again.

Modok -Read Fall of the Hulks

Blackout - Read current Ghost Rider

Psychoman - He's goofy lookin.

[Dylan]

I'd nominate Demogoblin. Play up the whole crazy religious angle.

Great choice!

Iron Man 2020 (Arno Stark). His design is great, it's 2010, he should be integrated into Fraction's IM universe.

The Enforcer. Another great costume design. This guy could be a great Daredevil Bucky Barnes-Captain America or Spider-Woman threat. Nice to see a new version introduced in Made Men.

Scourge. The return of the original, complete with his mysterious assistant Domino. A long arc that slowly ends in a reveal that sums up the character's entire existence. Make him a real threat, specifically in the Cap book(s).

[Dylan]

I always thought the idea of Flag-Smasher's anti-nationalisist stance could make him a really cool antitheisis to Captain America, as well as other patriotic heroes. The problem is that I've never read a really compelling story with him. Also he needs a new costume, as his is incredibly bland.

And now worn by Noh-Varr.

[Dylan]

Gypsy Moth.

+1

None of the Skein b.s. either.

[Ray G.]

Carnage.

He's Spider-man's Joker, only more than powerful enough to take him on in a fight.

[JimboX]

Carnage.

He's Spider-man's Joker, only more than powerful enough to take him on in a fight.

I second this

[Darthdaw37]

Carnage.

He's Spider-man's Joker, only more than powerful enough to take him on in a fight.

Never been a big fan of Carnage, but I wouldn't mind seeing Toxin done better

[Dr. Blasphemy]

Blastaar!

bring in more Negative zone stuff..
(and his name is funny)

[costello]

John Byrne.

I'd like to see a soothsayer in comics given the name Byrne... you know, play up the "Byrne Curse" thing.

[afroloq]

that reminds me...where did Anti Venom go???

[costello]

He had his own Dark Reign mini-series.

[afroloq]

....and then what?

I missed it (not that I was looking for it)

[One_Sick_Triceratops]

Bring back Garokk, but get him out of the Savage Land.

[Black Roman]

Since Brother Voodoo is cool now, how about Moondog?

[Tom Burgos]

Gypsy Moth.

Yes! I wish Bendis used her for the Spider-Woman book.

I also think Superia is a cool concept that could be updated. I can see why she is considered a crappy villainess, though.

[maverick-99]

Carnage.

He's Spider-man's Joker, only more than powerful enough to take him on in a fight.

excellent thought

[HeroBoy]

Carnage is not Spider-Man's joker. Carnage is a 90's joke.

[hamgravy]

There are so many that were recently given a new life in the right hands.

I'd say that Purple Man, Ghost, Madame Masque, and Dr. Faustus are the best that I've known them to be.

Were the Moses Magnum Busiek Avengers issues any good? I've always had a soft spot for him and think he can be a big Iron Man villain.

[Black Roman]

Purple Man is one of my favorite villains . . . EVER.

He needs to show up in a Marvel movie, STAT.

[Brother Power the Gong]

Were the Moses Magnum Busiek Avengers issues any good? I've always had a soft spot for him and think he can be a big Iron Man villain.

Moses Magnum popped up in the kinda recent Spider-Man-Punisher arc …

[Matthew Brown]

Bring back Garokk, but get him out of the Savage Land.

Sauron and Garokk hit the road! Also, hijinks.

[Devil's Karma]

I vote purple man as well...

and include molecule man.

[afroloq]

Molecule man is in Dark Avengers now...

[Ray G.]

Blastaar!

bring in more Negative zone stuff..
(and his name is funny)

Blastaar's been used pretty well in Guardians of the Galaxy lately.

[afroloq]

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/rom-spaceknight/1-1.jpg

[Brother Power the Gong]

Rom the Spaceknight

Marvel doesn't have the rights to him, I don't think. :(

[afroloq]

Marvel doesn't have the rights to him, I don't think. :(

dammit.

[jason hissong]

No one likes my Roxxas idea?

[JasonD]

Also: Rom is not a villian nor shitty.

[afroloq]

Also: Rom is not a villian nor shitty.

<----- takes blame for fail....sleepy

[Spidey616]

Will-O-The-Wisp

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4378/132915-31905-will-o-the-wisp_super.gif

[hamgravy]

Moses Magnum popped up in the kinda recent Spider-Man-Punisher arc …

It was a favorite issue of mine - but Magnum was used as comic relief.

This thread got weird. Riddled with non-villains and active, cool, villains.

I nominate Captain America.

[afroloq]

wait...I got one...

http://www.dragonhero.com/graphics/marvel2/egghead.jpg

Never liked him...but I bet now maybe....hmmm

[Jet]

Vermin
The Master
Batroc

[Dylan]

Thanks to Christos Gage, they've received the most love since the 80's, but....

The Brothers Grimm. Great costumes, and if played right, the sleaze-factor of the Grimes brothers could make a great, seedy MAX story starring Spider-Woman.

In fact, her entire rouges gallery would make for a great MAX book: The rapist Clown guy, Tick-Tock, Gypsy Moth with her drug-addled followers and the Needle (both member's of the awesome Night Shift) would be great for a long running crime series.

[hamgravy]

Yeah, I'd like to see what Brain has in store for Spider-Woman's rogues gallery after the skrull stuff dusts up.

She's still an "Agent of SWORD" so maybe we won't be seeing them at all.

[Criden]

Mirror Man could be so much more sinister, creepy, horror

Who is Mirror Man?

[Trey Krimsin]

Who is Mirror Man?

Well, he says he is a people fan, so The Mirror Man can't be much of a villain.

I guess they meant Mirror Master.

[HOOKS]

Gamesmaster.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/2/21/Gamesmaster_001.jpg

He was supposed to be a new underlying threat to various X-Teams in the 90's and just kinda disappeared.

Seeing him brought back would be amazing.

[Dan]

No one likes my Roxxas idea?

Roxxas was a great villain in the postboot LSH.

[jason hissong]

Roxxas was a great villain in the postboot LSH.

Yes. So creepy. So evil.

[JasonD]

Gamesmaster.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/2/21/Gamesmaster_001.jpg

He was supposed to be a new underlying threat to various X-Teams in the 90's and just kinda disappeared.

Seeing him brought back would be amazing.

Good call. He has the potential to be rather creepy. He was, if I recall correctly, in constant telepthatic communication with everyone on Earth and maniuplated the Upstarts to kill mutants, presumedly for his own amusement. Was he ever mentioned in the list of the 198?

[Aloysius]

Blastaar!

bring in more Negative zone stuff..
(and his name is funny)

I'd say he's already been given new life by DnA since Conquest.

I know Gage's been using them in Initiative but the U-Foes have always struck me as potentially top-tier villains.

[chazbot]

Will-O-The-Wisp

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4378/132915-31905-will-o-the-wisp_super.gif

He's one of my favorites. If a writer got back to his origin and redefined the character from there, it'd be great.

My not-so-serious nomination: Cardiac!

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/7/7c/Amazing_Spider-Man_Vol_1_360.jpg/300px-Amazing_Spider-Man_Vol_1_360.jpg

[Magnum V.I.]

wait...I got one...

http://www.dragonhero.com/graphics/marvel2/egghead.jpg

Never liked him...but I bet now maybe....hmmm
See Fall of the Hulks.

[batroc the leaper]

Vermin
The Master
Batroc

Was in an arc of Captain America fighting against Bucky, they treated him like a character too, which was kinda nice.

[The Zevad]

For those who voted Gyspy Moth..she already got revamped. She became the really sexy Skein http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skein_(comics) also Will-o-wisp and Cardiac are anti-heroes not villians. I like Skein as is and I hope Bendis doesn't screw her up. I mean he's aready making Bucky Cap bullshit the Avengers by saying he killed Hitler when it was the Android Human Torch who did it. Of course Hitler's mind was saved by Zola. So eh.

[hamgravy]

Yeah, good call on Will o the Wisp - anti-hero or not he's got a power and look to be exploited.

I feel like other Spectacular guys like Tarantula, The Answer, and Lightmaster could be beefed up.

I'm even more interested in that Kingpin phenomenon. Who can you take from one character's lesser Rogue's Gallery and make him the arch-enemy for another hero?

[Tom Burgos]

Thanks to Christos Gage, they've received the most love since the 80's, but....

The Brothers Grimm. Great costumes, and if played right, the sleaze-factor of the Grimes brothers could make a great, seedy MAX story starring Spider-Woman.

In fact, her entire rouges gallery would make for a great MAX book: The rapist Clown guy, Tick-Tock, Gypsy Moth with her drug-addled followers and the Needle (both member's of the awesome Night Shift) would be great for a long running crime series.

I think Night Shift has so much potential (Dansen Macabre, Digger, Gypsy Moth, Brothers Grimm, Misfit, Tatterdemalion...)

[Dylan]

For those who voted Gyspy Moth..she already got revamped. She became the really sexy Skein http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skein_(comics) also Will-o-wisp and Cardiac are anti-heroes not villians. I like Skein as is and I hope Bendis doesn't screw her up. I mean he's aready making Bucky Cap bullshit the Avengers by saying he killed Hitler when it was the Android Human Torch who did it. Of course Hitler's mind was saved by Zola. So eh.

The Skein look is terrible. She was already super-sexy as Gypsy Moth. She was originally written as being an alluring and sexual character before getting the topless costume out of the Thunderbolts revamp.

[hamgravy]

I think Night Shift has so much potential (Dansen Macabre, Digger, Gypsy Moth, Brothers Grimm, Misfit, Tatterdemalion...)

I just looked them up due to Gypsy Moth - you are correct!

[HomerGator]

magneto

edit: and CARNAGE!

[oconnellmd]

http://www.michaeloconnell.com/alexandracabot.jpg

[Mister Kyle]

I'm even more interested in that Kingpin phenomenon. Who can you take from one character's lesser Rogue's Gallery and make him the arch-enemy for another hero?

Somebody mentioned Psycho-Man earlier. A ruler of a subatomic world with a machine that messes with your emotions? Sounds like a Hank Pym villain.

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

Fall of the Hulks is doing great stuff for a lot of villains. I'd love to see The Leader climb way up the ladder.

I always liked the Elements of Doom/Masters of Alchemy. If they got a leader they could be a big threat.

[costello]

The Toad

[totalsellout]

absorbing man / titania would be good, but you'd have to undo what bruce jones did to him in hulk. the wrecking crew has been everywhere latley, but i'd like to see them treated with a bit more respect then they get. as already mentioned, vermin and all the night shift villians would be cool.

[hamgravy]

Somebody mentioned Psycho-Man earlier. A ruler of a subatomic world with a machine that messes with your emotions? Sounds like a Hank Pym villain.

Good call.

I was trying to think of an alien who would make for a good Spider-Woman big bad.

Deathbird or a cult of Dire Wraiths come to mind.

I also came across this FF villain who sounds like an anti-Jessica Drew in his purposeful childhood but demented agenda. Never saw him in action:

Devos the Devastator:
"As a child, Devos' homeworld was assaulted by raiders, and he was orphaned. He grew up alone in the ruins for years, until he was found by soldiers who recruited him for the army. He quickly became one of the best warriors, and was chosen by Symka for the "Great Experiment", which resulted in him becoming the ultimate weapon of destruction, but he determined that he would use this power to bring about galactic peace by destroying any race capable of making war."

[John M. Coker (Johnny C.)]

Flying Tiger

[Tom Burgos]

Good call.

I was trying to think of an alien who would make for a good Spider-Woman big bad.

Deathbird or a cult of Dire Wraiths come to mind.

I also came across this FF villain who sounds like an anti-Jessica Drew in his purposeful childhood but demented agenda. Never saw him in action:

Devos the Devastator:
"As a child, Devos' homeworld was assaulted by raiders, and he was orphaned. He grew up alone in the ruins for years, until he was found by soldiers who recruited him for the army. He quickly became one of the best warriors, and was chosen by Symka for the "Great Experiment", which resulted in him becoming the ultimate weapon of destruction, but he determined that he would use this power to bring about galactic peace by destroying any race capable of making war."

Interesting.
I would love to see Deathbird too.

[Ray G.]

Good call.

I was trying to think of an alien who would make for a good Spider-Woman big bad.

Deathbird or a cult of Dire Wraiths come to mind.

I also came across this FF villain who sounds like an anti-Jessica Drew in his purposeful childhood but demented agenda. Never saw him in action:

Devos the Devastator:
"As a child, Devos' homeworld was assaulted by raiders, and he was orphaned. He grew up alone in the ruins for years, until he was found by soldiers who recruited him for the army. He quickly became one of the best warriors, and was chosen by Symka for the "Great Experiment", which resulted in him becoming the ultimate weapon of destruction, but he determined that he would use this power to bring about galactic peace by destroying any race capable of making war."

Devos actually just made his comeback in Realm of Kings: Inhumans #2!

[Mister Mets]

Polestar. Hired to frame Magneto.


Pick a villain who faded into obscurity or was killed for their overall crappiness who you would want brought back in the modern era with an interesting twist given to them.

I'd nominate Demogoblin. Play up the whole crazy religious angle.
He could fit well against Daredevil.

[Mister Mets]

I think Bendis gave Purple Man new life.


Will-O-The-Wisp

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4378/132915-31905-will-o-the-wisp_super.gif

It'd be interesting to see a story with him, Sandman, Hydroman and a fire based bad guy.

[HomerGator]

Doc Ock. His last appearance was terrible.

[THWIP!]

The Shocker.

[oconnellmd]

The Shocker.

http://michaeloconnell.com/TheShocker.jpg

?

[oconnellmd]

The Shocker.

http://michaeloconnell.com/shocker-small.jpg

[JustJames]

Dread knight
Ezekiel Sims
Grog the God Slayer
Grey Gargoyle
Malekith
Negator
Vargas

- JJ

[hamgravy]

The Shocker two-parter in ASM with Marcos Martin on art was A+. Some villains should never be more than hired muscle with a gimmick and he works as is, IMHO.

Also, not shitty villains, but I'd love to see DD's Hand go up against Hickman's re-formed Hydra.

THAT's a way to shake up Matt's status quo. It's one thing to give him this new role but if he's still dueling with the Kingpin and dirty cops, well, it doesn't have that minty fresh feeling.

BUT, pit his evil organization against HYDRA, team up with the Secret Warriors, DD Vs. The Gorgon - now we're talking.

[Greygor]

Hypno-Hustler and the Mercy Killers

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f98/webs828/Spider-Man/Spectacular024.jpg

Go on Make him into a good villain

[hamgravy]

Man, didn't Big Wheel have a cool return in Ghost Rider in Jason Aaron's hands?

I haven't read it yet but the art was like a 70s carsploitation flick.

[Masculine Todd]

Black Mask. He became much less a generic gangster and more a criminal mastermind and master strategist when penned by Judd Winick, and was subsequently slain following OYL.

When written by Brubaker, he actually abducted Selina Kyle's sister and husband-in-law, tortured the husband in front of Catwoman's sister, cut out one of the husband's eyes and fed it to his wife just to prove a point.

Also, Great White Shark needs some cool stories. Slott made him a tragic and insane antagonist in Arkham Asylum: Living Hell. Robinson established him as the possessor of a savvy and methodical criminal mind during his Post-OYL eight-issue run. He could be an inane looking lump if never used again or an awesome foil for Batman.