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mike black
10-12-2009, 08:38 PM
What the fuck? (didn't see this posted)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/12/guardian-gagged-from-reporting-parliament




The Guardian has been prevented from reporting parliamentary proceedings on legal grounds which appear to call into question privileges guaranteeing free speech established under the 1688 Bill of Rights.

Today's published Commons order papers contain a question to be answered by a minister later this week. The Guardian is prevented from identifying the MP who has asked the question, what the question is, which minister might answer it, or where the question is to be found.

The Guardian is also forbidden from telling its readers why the paper is prevented – for the first time in memory – from reporting parliament. Legal obstacles, which cannot be identified, involve proceedings, which cannot be mentioned, on behalf of a client who must remain secret.

The only fact the Guardian can report is that the case involves the London solicitors Carter-Ruck, who specialise in suing the media for clients, who include individuals or global corporations.

The Guardian has vowed urgently to go to court to overturn the gag on its reporting. The editor, Alan Rusbridger, said: "The media laws in this country increasingly place newspapers in a Kafkaesque world in which we cannot tell the public anything about information which is being suppressed, nor the proceedings which suppress it. It is doubly menacing when those restraints include the reporting of parliament itself."

The media lawyer Geoffrey Robertson QC said Lord Denning ruled in the 1970s that "whatever comments are made in parliament" can be reported in newspapers without fear of contempt.

He said: "Four rebel MPs asked questions giving the identity of 'Colonel B', granted anonymity by a judge on grounds of 'national security'. The DPP threatened the press might be prosecuted for contempt, but most published."

The right to report parliament was the subject of many struggles in the 18th century, with the MP and journalist John Wilkes fighting every authority – up to the king – over the right to keep the public informed. After Wilkes's battle, wrote the historian Robert Hargreaves, "it gradually became accepted that the public had a constitutional right to know what their elected representatives were up to".

Hate_Prime
10-13-2009, 03:16 AM
Ho-lee shit.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2981/vforvendettamoviex1.jpghttp://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4495/wu8ekr491l5a276unal1zp4.jpg

Foolish Mortal
10-13-2009, 04:13 AM
They should go to court over this right now. Don't let them get away with this shit.

mike black
10-13-2009, 06:36 AM
They should go to court over this right now. Don't let them get away with this shit.

They're apparently trying.

I'm rather shocked that no one else is talking about this.

Lanowar
10-13-2009, 06:41 AM
Was lifted earlier today

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/13/guardian-gagged-parliamentary-question

NickT
10-13-2009, 06:45 AM
They're apparently trying.

I'm rather shocked that no one else is talking about this.
Becuase it happened fairly late on, and before there was any real build up of people getting annoyed it was already reversed. Even if they hadn't pulled out the appeal would have been a couple of hours ago.

mike black
10-13-2009, 06:46 AM
Was lifted earlier today

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/13/guardian-gagged-parliamentary-question

Good to see. God knows how that firm ever thought they were going to get away with it.

Andreas
10-13-2009, 01:04 PM
You don't get away with stuff like this in the age of WikiLeaks any more. The Wiki article was already up before the Guardian wrote the follow-up story.

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Ivory_Coast_toxic_dumping_report_behind_secret_Gua rdian_gag

Andreas

Jacques Toochay
10-13-2009, 11:13 PM
They lifted the gag?

The terrorists have won!!
:cry:

tom daylight
10-14-2009, 02:48 AM
It would have been thrown out of court anyway. Carter-Ruck overstepped the mark here. We live in the age of Twitter, and yesterday morning, specifically because of this action, Trafigura was the number one trending topic. See also "the Streisland effect".