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St.-
03-24-2005, 04:03 PM
It was really good. Really cool artwork much like Steve Rolston in Q+C. Highly recommend this book to people who like Q+C. Only had one problem with the book and thats it being a too short of a read. Needed more internal dialogue or something. VERY much look forward to the next one and were its going.

Mike Haseloff
03-24-2005, 04:14 PM
It was really good. Really cool artwork much like Steve Rolston in Q+C. Highly recommend this book to people who like Q+C. Only had one problem with the book and thats it being a too short of a read. Needed more internal dialogue or something. VERY much look forward to the next one and were its going.

Nice one, "Stephen" of "Grand Line, Oregon" :wink: :wink:

http://www.nitelitetheatre.com/rc-noir-owned.jpg

St.-
03-24-2005, 04:56 PM
[quote=stephen]It was really good. Really cool artwork much like Steve Rolston in Q+C. Highly recommend this book to people who like Q+C. Only had one problem with the book and thats it being a too short of a read. Needed more internal dialogue or something. VERY much look forward to the next one and were its going.

Nice one, "Stephen" of "Grand Line, Oregon" :wink: :wink:

what? you don't like gum gum devil fruit?

Mike Haseloff
03-24-2005, 04:58 PM
what? you don't like gum gum devil fruit?

I have no idea what that means!

BriRedfern
03-24-2005, 04:59 PM
No. And probably won't.

Alex K.
03-24-2005, 05:01 PM
what? you don't like gum gum devil fruit?

I have no idea what that means!

Snorkle key wax from a bottle phone stamp?

AAlgar
03-24-2005, 05:02 PM
Waiting for the trade.

Plan 9
03-24-2005, 05:04 PM
what? you don't like gum gum devil fruit?

I have no idea what that means!

Snorkle key wax from a bottle phone stamp?

No, the peanut ran dry.

JoshuaFialkov
03-24-2005, 05:05 PM
For a first time effort it's pretty good. I think the cliffhanger is probably a few beats too soon. The real smack would be whatever the guy has to tell her, I reckon.

I think the production's a bit off, too, as it's REALLY pixellated. Need to up-res that shiz-nit.

But overall, a good read.

St.-
03-24-2005, 05:06 PM
what? you don't like gum gum devil fruit?

I have no idea what that means!

Lets just say the Grand Line and The Line have little to nothing in common.

Pat Loika
03-24-2005, 05:06 PM
Never got a chance. She never gave me a copy...

P.

alexlannin
03-24-2005, 05:07 PM
For a first time effort it's pretty good. I think the cliffhanger is probably a few beats too soon. The real smack would be whatever the guy has to tell her, I reckon.

I think the production's a bit off, too, as it's REALLY pixellated. Need to up-res that shiz-nit.

But overall, a good read.
I agree, I was impressed.

Genius J
03-24-2005, 05:07 PM
Never got a chance. She never gave me a copy...

P.

You had plenty of opportunities to steal one.

Pat Loika
03-24-2005, 05:08 PM
Never got a chance. She never gave me a copy...

P.

You had plenty of opportunities to steal one.

Not my style, my friend. Thanks for the copy of Scar Tissue, though. I LOVE that book.

P.

Jason_BANNED
03-24-2005, 05:09 PM
Pat,
Did you get a chance to mail out "The Path To Armageddon" #0s yet?

Jason

Genius J
03-24-2005, 05:09 PM
Thanks for the copy of Scar Tissue, though. I LOVE that book.

Thanks, man! I appreciate the kind words.

Path to Armageddon looks like it's going to rock. That'll be done in time for the San Diego con, right?

Corwin: Bear Fighter
03-24-2005, 05:10 PM
No thanks.

Mike Haseloff
03-24-2005, 05:10 PM
Taxman has just been filling me in about the book.

Someone should put up a review or two on the ComixPress website.
I was browsing through the reviews there yesterday. It's fun to keep tabs on what everyone's doing.

Of course, then I'll use the information obtained from these reviews for my Bendis Board protocols, a contingency in case I ever have to take you all down.

But, y'know, it's all in the spirit of good fun. :D

REX!

Thudpucker
03-24-2005, 05:11 PM
What's The Line?

Pat Loika
03-24-2005, 05:11 PM
Thanks for the copy of Scar Tissue, though. I LOVE that book.

Thanks, man! I appreciate the kind words.

Path to Armageddon looks like it's going to rock. That'll be done in time for the San Diego con, right?

Yes. It's almost ready. Thanks for the kind words about the book, it's my pride and joy.

P.

Genius J
03-24-2005, 05:11 PM
What's The Line?
http://www.scartissue-comic.com/wwla/line1.jpg

Jason_BANNED
03-24-2005, 05:12 PM
Eric's art looks a lot like Oeming's.

Jason

Genius J
03-24-2005, 05:13 PM
Eric's art looks a lot like Oeming's.

Oeming did the cover.

Mike Haseloff
03-24-2005, 05:13 PM
Eric's art looks a lot like Oeming's.

Are you judging the book by it's Oeming cover?

Corwin: Bear Fighter
03-24-2005, 05:13 PM
What's The Line?
http://www.scartissue-comic.com/wwla/line1.jpg

Heh. :lol:

Genius J
03-24-2005, 05:14 PM
http://www.scartissue-comic.com/wwla/line3.jpg

Thudpucker
03-24-2005, 05:15 PM
What's The Line?
http://www.scartissue-comic.com/wwla/line1.jpg

Heh. :lol:

How come this is the first time I'm hearing about this book?

Genius J
03-24-2005, 05:16 PM
How come this is the first time I'm hearing about this book?

Because this is you:
http://www.drittmer.com/Misc/Head_up_Ass.jpg

Shannon's been talking about it for months.

Jason_BANNED
03-24-2005, 05:20 PM
Eric's art looks a lot like Oeming's.

Are you judging the book by it's Oeming cover?

Well, I guess I need to learn how to read better before opening my big mouth.

:(

[hide:114af85578]Actually, I knew that. I was just being silly[/hide:114af85578]

Jason

alexlannin
03-24-2005, 05:22 PM
What's The Line?
http://www.scartissue-comic.com/wwla/line1.jpg

Heh. :lol:

How come this is the first time I'm hearing about this book?
You must avoid Shannon's threads.

Mike Haseloff
03-24-2005, 05:23 PM
http://www.brokenfrontier.com/headlines/details.php?id=391&PHPSESSID=93147615ce2392742e454 49446045e35

For anyone interested, there's a five page preview. :D

DrMachine
03-24-2005, 05:24 PM
I didn't read the entire thing, but for a first issue it was good. Although I didn't like the way it ended and the fact that it was a tad too short for what I was paying...

Thudpucker
03-24-2005, 05:24 PM
http://www.brokenfrontier.com/headlines/details.php?id=391&PHPSESSID=93147615ce2392742e454 49446045e35

For anyone interested, there's a five page preview. :D

wow, the art is good.

Mike Haseloff
03-24-2005, 05:30 PM
Only had one problem with the book and thats it being a too short of a read. Needed more internal dialogue or something. VERY much look forward to the next one and were its going.

Having read the five page preview, I can see where you're coming from (to a slight degree).

The funeral really could've benefited from some kind of internal monologue, or something. I think the bland, and dare I say it, "decompressed", nature of the funeral reflects poorly on the slow death scene.

If the guy's death could've stood alone as a point of drama, followed by contrasting action (even if that "action" was a monologue), it would've worked better.

This is of course, only my opinion.
My upcoming book has a lot of scenes without dialogue too, so feel free to prepare to critique ironically, and use my words against me. :D

Taxman
03-24-2005, 05:53 PM
Never got a chance. She never gave me a copy...

P.

You had plenty of opportunities to steal one.

Not my style, my friend. Thanks for the copy of Scar Tissue, though. I LOVE that book.

P. :lol:

You could have read the whole thing while she was away. I would think that one would want the other Ronin creators to read there work. I actually planned on posting more about this at the Ronin site.

Pat Loika
03-24-2005, 05:55 PM
Never got a chance. She never gave me a copy...

P.

You had plenty of opportunities to steal one.

Not my style, my friend. Thanks for the copy of Scar Tissue, though. I LOVE that book.

P. :lol:

You could have read the whole thing while she was away. I would think that one would want the other Ronin creators to read there work. I actually planned on posting more about this at the Ronin site.

She might've forgotten to hadn me one...

Adrian B AWESOME
03-24-2005, 05:56 PM
What's The Line?
http://www.scartissue-comic.com/wwla/line1.jpg

Heh. :lol:

How come this is the first time I'm hearing about this book?

Am I the only one getting the joke?

BriRedfern
03-24-2005, 06:04 PM
What's The Line?
http://www.scartissue-comic.com/wwla/line1.jpg

Heh. :lol:

How come this is the first time I'm hearing about this book?

Am I the only one getting the joke?

No, you and I are the only ones getting thought.

Adrian B AWESOME
03-24-2005, 06:05 PM
What's The Line?
http://www.scartissue-comic.com/wwla/line1.jpg

Heh. :lol:

How come this is the first time I'm hearing about this book?

Am I the only one getting the joke?

No, you and I are the only ones getting thought.

Thought? That makes absolutly no sense. :lol:

Thudpucker
03-24-2005, 06:06 PM
What's The Line?
http://www.scartissue-comic.com/wwla/line1.jpg

Heh. :lol:

How come this is the first time I'm hearing about this book?

Am I the only one getting the joke?

No, you and I are the only ones getting thought.

:lol:

Mike Haseloff
03-24-2005, 06:07 PM
Am I the only one getting the joke?

Heh. No. :|

Taxman
03-24-2005, 06:10 PM
Never got a chance. She never gave me a copy...

P.

You had plenty of opportunities to steal one.

Not my style, my friend. Thanks for the copy of Scar Tissue, though. I LOVE that book.

P. :lol:

You could have read the whole thing while she was away. I would think that one would want the other Ronin creators to read there work. I actually planned on posting more about this at the Ronin site.

She might've forgotten to hadn me one...

That's probably it then.

Miken Ayers
03-24-2005, 07:10 PM
I'm way overdue for a haircut.

Taxman
03-24-2005, 07:36 PM
Only had one problem with the book and thats it being a too short of a read. Needed more internal dialogue or something. VERY much look forward to the next one and were its going.

Having read the five page preview, I can see where you're coming from (to a slight degree).

The funeral really could've benefited from some kind of internal monologue, or something. I think the bland, and dare I say it, "decompressed", nature of the funeral reflects poorly on the slow death scene.

You know, now that I think about it, she had a preview a couple of months ago, and it had narration in the beginning including the funeral. I remember talking to her briefly about this, but I have no idea why she made the change. I suppose of you are interested, you could try to contact her through her website.

DrMachine
03-24-2005, 07:37 PM
The Buffet line...what about the Panty Line, or The Clothes Line?

TonyFleecs
03-24-2005, 07:38 PM
I think the production's a bit off, too, as it's REALLY pixellated. Need to up-res that shiz-nit.
That's a damn shame.

Any you ronin folks know what format/resolution she sent them? I'd be really upset if I got a pixelated book back from the printers because I used the wrong format or something.


I havn't read this yet but It's one of the ones I'm excited to get next time I'm at comixpress.

CraigM
03-24-2005, 07:40 PM
I think the production's a bit off, too, as it's REALLY pixellated. Need to up-res that shiz-nit.
That's a damn shame.

Any you ronin folks know what format/resolution she sent them? I'd be really upset if I got a pixelated book back from the printers because I used the wrong format or something.


I havn't read this yet but It's one of the ones I'm excited to get next time I'm at comixpress.

I have no idea what she sent it in. I have a prepress guy who goes through and does the work for me. Jason Arthur, extremely talented guy, and a good friend of mine now. He's had a blast working on my projects, and I've had a blast working with him.

But, none of my books have come out pixilated, at least I don't think so.

Craig

TonyFleecs
03-24-2005, 07:41 PM
He's with Comixpress? or just a dude you know?

CraigM
03-24-2005, 07:43 PM
He's with Comixpress? or just a dude you know?

A dude I know.

Craig

JoshuaFialkov
03-24-2005, 07:44 PM
He's with Comixpress? or just a dude you know?

A dude I know.

Craig
Jason's a good guy. Good work, bubba.

Taxman
03-24-2005, 07:45 PM
I think the production's a bit off, too, as it's REALLY pixellated. Need to up-res that shiz-nit.
That's a damn shame.

Any you ronin folks know what format/resolution she sent them? I'd be really upset if I got a pixelated book back from the printers because I used the wrong format or something.


I havn't read this yet but It's one of the ones I'm excited to get next time I'm at comixpress.

I certainly don't have the kind of experience with comics that Joshua does, but my copy does not look pixellated to me.

Again, if you have questions about the book, I suggest that you contact her through her website.

JoshuaFialkov
03-24-2005, 07:46 PM
I think the production's a bit off, too, as it's REALLY pixellated. Need to up-res that shiz-nit.
That's a damn shame.

Any you ronin folks know what format/resolution she sent them? I'd be really upset if I got a pixelated book back from the printers because I used the wrong format or something.


I havn't read this yet but It's one of the ones I'm excited to get next time I'm at comixpress.

I certainly don't have the kind of experience with comics that Joshua does, but my copy does not look pixellated to me.

Again, if you have questions about the book, I suggest that you contact her through her website.
If you look closely, you'll see all the lines are jagged. It's aggravated by the toner, which doesn't make the smoothest line on it's own. I'm anal as fuck about print quality, tho.

CraigM
03-24-2005, 07:47 PM
He's with Comixpress? or just a dude you know?

A dude I know.

Craig
Jason's a good guy. Good work, bubba.

You know Jason?

He is a good guy. One that has stuck by me the last 9 months. I've been so lucky to have him helping me out through everything.

Craig

Taxman
03-24-2005, 07:50 PM
If you look closely, you'll see all the lines are jagged. It's aggravated by the toner, which doesn't make the smoothest line on it's own. I'm anal as fuck about print quality, tho.

Alright, now you are making a critic out of me.

I think I was happier before. :(

CraigM
03-24-2005, 07:51 PM
If you look closely, you'll see all the lines are jagged. It's aggravated by the toner, which doesn't make the smoothest line on it's own. I'm anal as fuck about print quality, tho.

Alright, now you are making a critic out of me.

I think I was happier before. :(

:lol:

Craig

Mike Haseloff
03-24-2005, 07:55 PM
You know, now that I think about it, she had a preview a couple of months ago, and it had narration in the beginning including the funeral. I remember talking to her briefly about this, but I have no idea why she made the change. I suppose of you are interested, you could try to contact her through her website.

I must admit, I am curious if that's the case!

Mike Haseloff
03-24-2005, 07:59 PM
If you look closely, you'll see all the lines are jagged. It's aggravated by the toner, which doesn't make the smoothest line on it's own. I'm anal as fuck about print quality, tho.

Do you know if this is an art or printing issue?

A lot of the Ronin art I've happened to see/received online has been pixelated, so I just assumed that was the root of the problem.

It wouldn't hurt to know if this is a ComixPress problem, for future reference.

Genius J
03-24-2005, 08:07 PM
Has anyone read my book yet? Do you think it looks pixellated, too? Because I thought it looked fine.

Taxman
03-24-2005, 08:08 PM
Has anyone read my book yet? Do you think it looks pixellated, too? Because I thought it looked fine.

I read it! But I didn't know The Line was pixellated. I guess I'm not the best guy to ask.

Alex K.
03-24-2005, 08:10 PM
If you look closely, you'll see all the lines are jagged. It's aggravated by the toner, which doesn't make the smoothest line on it's own. I'm anal as fuck about print quality, tho.

Do you know if this is an art or printing issue?

A lot of the Ronin art I've happened to see/received online has been pixelated, so I just assumed that was the root of the problem.

It wouldn't hurt to know if this is a ComixPress problem, for future reference.

the pixelated/jagged lines are production issues not printing, although like Josh said the toner used seems to bleed a bit regardless of the image resolution. I have a copy of Varied Scaries and some pages are pixelated and blury, and some are perfectly clear.

Persevering Guy
03-24-2005, 08:11 PM
I'm waiting for the April Tampa con so I can buy it from Shannon in person.

CraigM
03-24-2005, 08:13 PM
If you look closely, you'll see all the lines are jagged. It's aggravated by the toner, which doesn't make the smoothest line on it's own. I'm anal as fuck about print quality, tho.

Do you know if this is an art or printing issue?

A lot of the Ronin art I've happened to see/received online has been pixelated, so I just assumed that was the root of the problem.

It wouldn't hurt to know if this is a ComixPress problem, for future reference.

Copies of Tyr aren't pixilated. If anyone who has a copy can look and verify that, then that'd be great. But the copy I have, it's very clean. So I think it's the art itself and not ComiXpress.

Craig

Taxman
03-24-2005, 08:14 PM
No, the lines in Scar Tissue are much cleaner than the ones in The Line. The panel boarders seem to be much finer as well. I have to color version, so I don't know whether that makes a difference.

JoshuaFialkov
03-24-2005, 08:19 PM
On the line, it's only the art, not the lettering, so I'd guess it's a file prep thing.

JoshuaFialkov
03-24-2005, 08:19 PM
I think.

I don;'t have it on hand.

CraigM
03-24-2005, 08:21 PM
I think.

I don;'t have it on hand.

Which one are you talking about?

Craig

Taxman
03-24-2005, 08:21 PM
If you look closely, you'll see all the lines are jagged. It's aggravated by the toner, which doesn't make the smoothest line on it's own. I'm anal as fuck about print quality, tho.

Do you know if this is an art or printing issue?

A lot of the Ronin art I've happened to see/received online has been pixelated, so I just assumed that was the root of the problem.

It wouldn't hurt to know if this is a ComixPress problem, for future reference.

Copies of Tyr aren't pixilated. If anyone who has a copy can look and verify that, then that'd be great. But the copy I have, it's very clean. So I think it's the art itself and not ComiXpress.

Craig

It is cleaner than The Line, but not as clean as Scar Tissue. Some of the pages are not as clean as others.

JoshuaFialkov
03-24-2005, 08:22 PM
I think.

I don;'t have it on hand.

Which one are you talking about?

Craig
The Line.

You didn't send me your book yet. Bastard.

CraigM
03-24-2005, 08:22 PM
If you look closely, you'll see all the lines are jagged. It's aggravated by the toner, which doesn't make the smoothest line on it's own. I'm anal as fuck about print quality, tho.

Do you know if this is an art or printing issue?

A lot of the Ronin art I've happened to see/received online has been pixelated, so I just assumed that was the root of the problem.

It wouldn't hurt to know if this is a ComixPress problem, for future reference.

Copies of Tyr aren't pixilated. If anyone who has a copy can look and verify that, then that'd be great. But the copy I have, it's very clean. So I think it's the art itself and not ComiXpress.

Craig

It is cleaner than The Line, but not as clean as Scar Tissue. Some of the pages are not as clean as others.

Anything that's pixilated was meant to be. I should say that. :)

Craig

CraigM
03-24-2005, 08:23 PM
I think.

I don;'t have it on hand.

Which one are you talking about?

Craig
The Line.

You didn't send me your book yet. Bastard.

I haven't got my shipment yet. Bastard.

:P

Craig

Taxman
03-24-2005, 08:24 PM
Anything that's pixilated was meant to be. I should say that. :)

Craig

How do you know the guy from The Line wouldn't say the same thing.

CraigM
03-24-2005, 08:26 PM
Anything that's pixilated was meant to be. I should say that. :)

Craig

How do you know the guy from The Line wouldn't say the same thing.

Because Alex's style is to pixalate some things. Don't ask me why.

Craig

Taxman
03-24-2005, 08:27 PM
Anything that's pixilated was meant to be. I should say that. :)

Craig

How do you know the guy from The Line wouldn't say the same thing.

Because Alex's style is to pixalate some things. Don't ask me why.

Craig

I guess it isn't a defect then.

CraigM
03-24-2005, 08:28 PM
Anything that's pixilated was meant to be. I should say that. :)

Craig

How do you know the guy from The Line wouldn't say the same thing.

Because Alex's style is to pixalate some things. Don't ask me why.

Craig

I guess it isn't a defect then.

:lol:

;-)

Craig

Mike Haseloff
03-24-2005, 08:40 PM
Anything that's pixilated was meant to be. I should say that. :)

What size are your pages? :?

I've downloaded the PDF, and at 100% they're very small, and I'm operating on a clunky piece of crap at 800x600! Most things appear huge on my monitor!

I don't know if this is a feature of Adobe Acrobat, or if you've got really small pages. Which might explain any problems with the printing, because as I recall, they ask for inhumanly large (on my old piece of crap) pages.

Just food for thought.

CraigM
03-24-2005, 08:42 PM
Anything that's pixilated was meant to be. I should say that. :)

What size are your pages? :?

I've downloaded the PDF, and at 100% they're very small, and I'm operating on a clunky piece of crap at 800x600! Most things appear huge on my monitor!

I don't know if this is a feature of Adobe Acrobat, or if you've got really small pages. Which might explain any problems with the printing, because as I recall, they ask for inhumanly large (on my old piece of crap) pages.

Just food for thought.

The size of my pages are what ComiXpress asks for them to be. That's all I know :P

Craig

Jason_BANNED
03-24-2005, 08:48 PM
If the art is pixelated, but the lettering isn't then they (the creative team on The Line) must have scanned the line art in at a low dpi.

Jason

Mike Haseloff
03-28-2005, 05:50 AM
Just a question regarding the printing situation.
What are the draw backs of art that is smaller size on the PC.

Will that render it impossible to print at the designated size?
Or will it just suffer quality issues?

Jason_BANNED
03-28-2005, 05:52 AM
Just a question regarding the printing situation.
What are the draw backs of art that is smaller size on the PC.

Will that render it impossible to print at the designated size?
Or will it just suffer quality issues?

Not exactly sure what you mean.

Are you talking about using a lower dpi for previews on the web?

The files I send to the printer are 600 dpi, but for stuff shown on the web I save another copy of the file at 72 dpi.

Is that what you mean?

Jason

Mike Haseloff
03-28-2005, 05:55 AM
Not exactly sure what you mean.

Are you talking about using a lower dpi for previews on the web?

The files I send to the printer are 600 dpi, but for stuff shown on the web I save another copy of the file at 72 dpi.

Is that what you mean?

Jason

Sorry, I meant the physical size.
As in, inches.

I'm not sure how the measurements of an image on the computer relate to the real world; ie. whether a smaller image can still be printed at a larger size.

Oh, also. How do you control DPI?
Does it relate to PPI, or is DPI something that can be set via a particular program?

Brian Defferding
03-28-2005, 07:20 PM
Sorry, I meant the physical size.
As in, inches.

I'm not sure how the measurements of an image on the computer relate to the real world; ie. whether a smaller image can still be printed at a larger size.

Oh, also. How do you control DPI?
Does it relate to PPI, or is DPI something that can be set via a particular program?

I control DPI with both the scanning software and Photoshop under the "Image Size" option under EDIT in the main menu. I first scan in the image at 600 DPI, then I bring the Image DPI down to 300 (although, as you can see here some people keep the image size at 600dpi if you really really want to be particular and avoid any chance of pixellating at press time).

If you do not have access to Illustrator (which I think you said in another thread), and you have a small image which you want to expand to a larger size, make sure that smaller image size has alot of DPI - I'd say around 600 is good (anything above that may make the file size too big and the program you're viewing/editing the file will run clunky). Also, some types of files are good for expanding without pixellation, like for instance PNG files. TIFF files are pretty good too. Ask your printer/service bureau you're working with to find out what type of file they accept to use for printing.

If you are using Illustrator, on the other hand, you can save your file as an Illustrator file or and EPS file and the vector graphics will save you from any sort of pixellation.

Hope that helps; anyone else can chime in with some insight. :D

Mark
03-28-2005, 07:23 PM
Yeah, no.

JoshuaFialkov
03-28-2005, 07:41 PM
Essentially, DPI and Size work in tandem. If you have a file that's 8 1/2 x 11 (say) and 600 DPI, you can increase the size, while you decrease the DPI and not lose quality.

The DPI is Dots Per Inch, so, if you have MORE dots per inch, you can technically make it bigger in actual size, while lowering the DPI, and really, all you're doing is balancing the size and DPI.

How's that for confusing? :-D

Mike Haseloff
03-28-2005, 07:47 PM
I control DPI with both the scanning software and Photoshop under the "Image Size" option under EDIT in the main menu. I first scan in the image at 600 DPI, then I bring the Image DPI down to 300 (although, as you can see here some people keep the image size at 600dpi if you really really want to be particular and avoid any chance of pixellating at press time).

If you do not have access to Illustrator (which I think you said in another thread), and you have a small image which you want to expand to a larger size, make sure that smaller image size has alot of DPI - I'd say around 600 is good (anything above that may make the file size too big and the program you're viewing/editing the file will run clunky). Also, some types of files are good for expanding without pixellation, like for instance PNG files. TIFF files are pretty good too. Ask your printer/service bureau you're working with to find out what type of file they accept to use for printing.

If you are using Illustrator, on the other hand, you can save your file as an Illustrator file or and EPS file and the vector graphics will save you from any sort of pixellation.

Hope that helps; anyone else can chime in with some insight. :D

DPI or PPI?
Or are they effectively the same thing in printer versus PC language?

Basically, I'm looking at the red and white cover I posted (http://www.nitelitetheatre.com/russianman01-cover.jpg) at those dimensions, which in the PSD file are, 1.72" x 2.627" at 300ppi with CYMK color (or 516 x 788 pixels).

I'm working on ComixPress' measurements, so it needs to be roughly four times the size at 6.875" x 10.5". So far, regardless of the ppi, it's had a loss of quality. Pixelation that makes it look a little difused and blury, and the colours all fade.

There's no scanning involved, so I can't mess with the DPI or anything there.
The file is created at this size with this quality. So, I'm assuming that means saving it as a PNG or tiff isn't going to help, right?

What my previous question in this thread was, on the PC it's 1.72" x 2.627".
I was asking whether that meant it could only be printed at those dimensions, or if there would be a cost at trying to print a file with those dimensions onto hardcopy paper of 6.875" x 10.5".

JoshuaFialkov
03-28-2005, 07:51 PM
If it's already at 300 dpi, you can really only print actual size. Only if it's at a higher DPI (or PPI, same thing) can you scale it up.

Mike Haseloff
03-28-2005, 07:58 PM
If it's already at 300 dpi, you can really only print actual size. Only if it's at a higher DPI (or PPI, same thing) can you scale it up.

I changed the PPI to 800 and tried it again, and got much the same.
I'm not sure if it was exactly the same, but it sure looked it.

Just to clarify, I'm working with Photoshop 6.

batmanbooyah
03-28-2005, 08:05 PM
i thought the line was a little quick, but something better suited for someone with a name. there wasn't much to keep me coming back. another cop that gets some power. but see, thats why i applaud shannon. she did it her way, im pretty sure she knows that having a name would make people come back.


but the art was a little off, like, jagged or whatever everyone is saying. i think they scanned it in incorrectly or something. my book was from comixpress and it wasn't jagged at all.

which reminds me, fuck, i've got to send this thing out to a lot of people. damn busy schedule/lazy me!


also the art i got to put in the book was 300dpi jpegs. i've talked with some artists who have actually made books at less resolution and they've come out fine (infact, the example im thinking of the art still looked awesome).

Mike Haseloff
03-28-2005, 08:08 PM
also the art i got to put in the book was 300dpi jpegs. i've talked with some artists who have actually made books at less resolution and they've come out fine (infact, the example im thinking of the art still looked awesome).
But what were the dimensions of your images?

batmanbooyah
03-28-2005, 08:10 PM
But what were the dimensions of your images?



8 1/2" X 11"! dude drew it on 8 1/2" X 11" :hulk:


so it was shrunk weird. i gotta tell him about PROPORTIONS!

JoshuaFialkov
03-28-2005, 09:04 PM
I changed the PPI to 800 and tried it again, and got much the same.
I'm not sure if it was exactly the same, but it sure looked it.

Just to clarify, I'm working with Photoshop 6.
You can't just 'go bigger.' PPI can only go up as size goes down, and vice versa.

Mike Haseloff
03-28-2005, 09:31 PM
This is driving me coco for cocopuffs.

If I save this as a tiff or a PDF or a PSD or whatever, would one of you mind taking a look, and seeing what you can do? I just don't think I have the tools, or the understanding of how to make this happen. :p

I really appreciate all the help you've offered guys.
Thank you very much.

TonyFleecs
03-28-2005, 09:38 PM
you can email it to me,

let me know what size you need it & I'll tell you if it's possible.

tonyfleecs@hotmail.com

Shannon Chenoweth
03-29-2005, 08:33 PM
Thanks for all the nice comments and thoughts guys. :)

RC

justjeffery
03-29-2005, 08:37 PM
I havent received my comp copies yet...

What? I didnt work on it, so I dont get comps?

I'll grab a copy from her in Chicago.... if she's still speaking to me by then...

Shannon Chenoweth
03-29-2005, 08:38 PM
I havent received my comp copies yet...

What? I didnt work on it, so I dont get comps?

I'll grab a copy from her in Chicago.... if she's still speaking to me by then...

You know I love you Jeffery...even if you didn't return my phone call last week. :)

RC

Shannon Chenoweth
03-29-2005, 08:39 PM
It was really good. Really cool artwork much like Steve Rolston in Q+C. Highly recommend this book to people who like Q+C. Only had one problem with the book and thats it being a too short of a read. Needed more internal dialogue or something. VERY much look forward to the next one and were its going.

Hey thanks man. Really. Can I use this in the issue #2 letters column? Do you mind? Thanks!

RC

justjeffery
03-29-2005, 08:39 PM
You know I love you Jeffery...even if you didn't return my phone call last week. :)

RC

Had a lot going on boo... and trust me, you didnt want to talk to me...

Shannon Chenoweth
03-29-2005, 08:55 PM
Had a lot going on boo... and trust me, you didnt want to talk to me...

Even last Wednesday? That's when I left you a message. You get that?
Anyway, hope everything is ok.

RC

Freeway
03-29-2005, 08:56 PM
Shannon! Do you know if the comic's available for order up here in Canada? I'd love to give it a look.

Shannon Chenoweth
03-29-2005, 08:58 PM
Shannon! Do you know if the comic's available for order up here in Canada? I'd love to give it a look.

You should be able to order a copy on comixpress. BUT, Eric (artist) lives in Canada. If nothing else, I can send a copy for you to him and he can get it to you. Where in Canada are you? (I'm shipping him some books this week)

RC

Mike Haseloff
03-29-2005, 08:59 PM
How many days was that? :roll:

Welcome back, anyway. :lol:
Sorry about derailing your thread.

Shannon Chenoweth
03-29-2005, 09:02 PM
How many days was that? :roll:

Welcome back, anyway. :lol:
Sorry about derailing your thread.

Does it really matter? :p
Thanks.

RC

TonyFleecs
03-29-2005, 09:02 PM
Seroiously, Welcome back RC, I don't know what all wen't down but I felt bad you took off. Hope all is cool.
-T

Shannon Chenoweth
03-29-2005, 09:04 PM
Seroiously, Welcome back RC, I don't know what all wen't down but I felt bad you took off. Hope all is cool.
-T

I'm totally good. Thanks man. All is great.

RC

St.-
03-30-2005, 06:14 AM
Hey thanks man. Really. Can I use this in the issue #2 letters column? Do you mind? Thanks!

RC

I would be honored if i was in The Line in anyway. Also if you could put my name down as Stephen from Medical Popcorn that would be great as well.

So when is #2 coming out?

William Satterwhite
04-12-2005, 08:20 AM
I just got my shipment from Comixpress yesterday and The Line was the first one I've had a chance to finish (I also ordered Scar Tissue and Tyr). I like it, it's very good but I'll agree with some of the earlier comments that it's a very quick read. That's not a bad thing necessarily and there are moments where I think the economy of words is very effective (like when the wife is walking off after giving Jess the will- I really love that last panel, it kind of highlights how lost Jess is and to me, that one panel really captures the mood of the entire issue), but there are also moments where it doesn't work as well. All in all though, it's a very enjoyable book

Shannon Chenoweth
04-12-2005, 08:31 AM
I just got my shipment from Comixpress yesterday and The Line was the first one I've had a chance to finish (I also ordered Scar Tissue and Tyr). I like it, it's very good but I'll agree with some of the earlier comments that it's a very quick read. That's not a bad thing necessarily and there are moments where I think the economy of words is very effective (like when the wife is walking off after giving Jess the will- I really love that last panel, it kind of highlights how lost Jess is and to me, that one panel really captures the mood of the entire issue), but there are also moments where it doesn't work as well. All in all though, it's a very enjoyable book

Thanks!
Issue #2 has a lot more going on. It will be premiering at WWChi in August. I've also got some other projects in the works for 2006. Thanks again for buying the book and your kind words on it.

RC

gwyllgi
04-12-2005, 08:39 AM
I wasn't that impressed with the artwork I saw online.

Just not my style. Probably won't look any more into it.

DaGetHighKnight
04-12-2005, 08:40 AM
I didnt read it, I sniffed it.

Shannon Chenoweth
04-12-2005, 08:46 AM
I didnt read it, I sniffed it.

That doesn't surprise me. :p

RC

Taxman
04-12-2005, 08:47 AM
I didnt read it, I sniffed it.

Why not roll it up and smoke it?

William Satterwhite
04-12-2005, 09:19 AM
Thanks!
Issue #2 has a lot more going on. It will be premiering at WWChi in August. I've also got some other projects in the works for 2006. Thanks again for buying the book and your kind words on it.

RC

You're welcome, you did a great job and I'm looking forward to seeing where the story goes from here.

DaGetHighKnight
04-12-2005, 10:12 AM
Why not roll it up and smoke it?

cause that wouldnt work too well. If i was to smoke it i would just freebase it. Duh!

AAlgar
04-12-2005, 10:17 AM
I didnt read it, I sniffed it.

And you didn't even hook me up in NYC. Shame on you.

Mr. Fusion
04-12-2005, 10:19 AM
For a first time effort it's pretty good. I think the cliffhanger is probably a few beats too soon. The real smack would be whatever the guy has to tell her, I reckon.

I think the production's a bit off, too, as it's REALLY pixellated. Need to up-res that shiz-nit.

But overall, a good read.And the artist really needs to learn some consistency. But other than that, not bad.

Jason_BANNED
04-12-2005, 11:04 AM
And the artist really needs to learn some consistency.

I understand what you mean, but in some instances, he needs to mix things up. Almost every female face was identical and the only way to tell them apart was by their hair. Also, quite a bit of the perspective looked "faked" - as if it wasn't actually plotted out, but guessed at. While it works sometimes, a bunch of it made for awkward panels (different horizon lines, people being drastically different in height even though they're only a few "feet" apart on the plane, windows that are farther away are larger than others on the same building that are closer, etc.)

After looking at it, I think the pixelation has more to do with bad compression and not a low dpi (like I originally guessed before actually getting my hands on it).

The story itself wasn't bad, but it had an overwhelming "been there, done that" feel to it, and pretty much all of the dialogue was stiff, generic, and not believable.

Definitely not a bad book, but the shortcomings were evident and undeniable.

Jason

Shannon Chenoweth
04-12-2005, 11:18 AM
I understand what you mean, but in some instances, he needs to mix things up. Almost every female face was identical and the only way to tell them apart was by their hair. Also, quite a bit of the perspective looked "faked" - as if it wasn't actually plotted out, but guessed at. While it works sometimes, a bunch of it made for awkward panels (different horizon lines, people being drastically different in height even though they're only a few "feet" apart on the plane, windows that are farther away are larger than others on the same building that are closer, etc.)

After looking at it, I think the pixelation has more to do with bad compression and not a low dpi (like I originally guessed before actually getting my hands on it).

The story itself wasn't bad, but it had an overwhelming "been there, done that" feel to it, and pretty much all of the dialogue was stiff, generic, and not believable.

Definitely not a bad book, but the shortcomings were evident and undeniable.

Jason

Both Eric and I are working on making issue #2 as good as it can be. He's working on his artwork (what you're saying has been said before, and he knows about it), and I'm writing as much as I can, as I know the more I write, the better I will be. Making comics really is a learning experience.
Anyway, thanks for picking up the book Jason, and thanks for the constructive criticism, it's appreciated.

RC

Jason_BANNED
04-12-2005, 11:34 AM
Both Eric and I are working on making issue #2 as good as it can be. He's working on his artwork (what you're saying has been said before, and he knows about it), and I'm writing as much as I can, as I know the more I write, the better I will be. Making comics really is a learning experience.
Anyway, thanks for picking up the book Jason, and thanks for the constructive criticism, it's appreciated.

RC

Don't take my review to mean I've given up on the book. Definitely not the case. I'm looking forward to issue #2. Just wanted to be honest; it doesn't do anyone any good to give a dishonest ego-pumping review.

Making comics is DEFINITELY a learning experience. I had to almost completely redraw a story for my first issue because the way the writer saw things and the way I saw things on some panels was just totally different.

I had a hard time getting his vision at first, and subconsciously I knew it. That pushed me to rush a few panels and the result was subpar art with very noticeable flaws.

Thankfully, he was honest enough to tell me where I was lacking and he clarified what he was looking for in the script. I think the end result is something both of us are much more happy with. It hurt at first, but in the end, I knew I had to admit that what I had drawn was rushed and just wasn't good and I need to hear it.

That one experience helped me grow A LOT.

Jason

DaGetHighKnight
04-12-2005, 11:43 AM
And you didn't even hook me up in NYC. Shame on you.

Sorry dude, You should have said somthing. Or just took a wiff of Natty P. I got zipped up just looking at him. ;)

Mr. Fusion
04-12-2005, 04:07 PM
Don't take my review to mean I've given up on the book. Definitely not the case. I'm looking forward to issue #2. Just wanted to be honest; it doesn't do anyone any good to give a dishonest ego-pumping review.

Making comics is DEFINITELY a learning experience. I had to almost completely redraw a story for my first issue because the way the writer saw things and the way I saw things on some panels was just totally different.

I had a hard time getting his vision at first, and subconsciously I knew it. That pushed me to rush a few panels and the result was subpar art with very noticeable flaws.

Thankfully, he was honest enough to tell me where I was lacking and he clarified what he was looking for in the script. I think the end result is something both of us are much more happy with. It hurt at first, but in the end, I knew I had to admit that what I had drawn was rushed and just wasn't good and I need to hear it.

That one experience helped me grow A LOT.

JasonOh suuuuuure. Get your concerns answered.

Personally, I'd like to know how the hell a small person like that is going to wield a Desert Eagle.

Jason_BANNED
04-12-2005, 07:50 PM
Oh suuuuuure. Get your concerns answered.

Personally, I'd like to know how the hell a small person like that is going to wield a Desert Eagle.

:D

I blame wormholes.

Jason

Shannon Chenoweth
04-12-2005, 08:34 PM
Oh suuuuuure. Get your concerns answered.

Personally, I'd like to know how the hell a small person like that is going to wield a Desert Eagle.

She's special.
And no, not the blue bus special or whatever. :p

RC

Mr. Fusion
04-12-2005, 08:43 PM
She's special.
And no, not the blue bus special or whatever. :p

RCDon't give me that "She's special" crap. Look how tiny that woman is! That gun's bigger'n she is! You try aiming a brick at someone and lessee how tough you look!

Okay, aside from the ridiculous choice in firearms, the least the artist could do is make her hold the same gun throughout the book. At one point it's a Desert Eagle, then what seems to be a Glock. But wait! Now it's a revolver! :dazed:

Shannon Chenoweth
04-12-2005, 08:46 PM
Don't give me that "She's special" crap. Look how tiny that woman is! That gun's bigger'n she is! You try aiming a brick at someone and lessee how tough you look!

Okay, aside from the ridiculous choice in firearms, the least the artist could do is make her hold the same gun throughout the book. At one point it's a Desert Eagle, then what seems to be a Glock. But wait! Now it's a revolver! :dazed:

You mean when she was in uniform she had one gun, and then when she's plain clothed another? Simple, one is her personal weapon.

RC :)

The Roman Candle
04-12-2005, 08:50 PM
I don't wanna say "padded," because I hate people that throw that word around, but I really felt like the story didn't get far. I'll probably still get #2, because I'm damn curious, but I hope it picks up the pace a bit.

Shannon Chenoweth
04-12-2005, 08:52 PM
I don't wanna say "padded," because I hate people that throw that word around, but I really felt like the story didn't get far. I'll probably still get #2, because I'm damn curious, but I hope it picks up the pace a bit.

It will. Thanks for checking it out and giving the book a chance.

RC

Mr. Fusion
04-12-2005, 08:56 PM
You mean when she was in uniform she had one gun, and then when she's plain clothed another? Simple, one is her personal weapon.

RC :)Not at all. The one she's carrying out of uniform looks like someone took a Desert Eagle, put it in a vice, and smushed the life out of it. I defy you to tell me what kinda gun she carries out of uniform, and then tell me that's what's on the printed page! :x

Shannon Chenoweth
04-12-2005, 09:12 PM
Not at all. The one she's carrying out of uniform looks like someone took a Desert Eagle, put it in a vice, and smushed the life out of it. I defy you to tell me what kinda gun she carries out of uniform, and then tell me that's what's on the printed page! :x

I plead the fifth on this one. :p

RC

Mr. Fusion
04-12-2005, 09:29 PM
I plead the fifth on this one. :p

RCa ha!