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Kirblar
05-26-2009, 04:16 AM
10:15am press conference, which means it should be leaked shortly.

Treacle
05-26-2009, 04:19 AM
How exciting!

Kirblar
05-26-2009, 04:20 AM
I'll be surprised if its not Wood.

Ethan Van Sciver
05-26-2009, 04:21 AM
Can't wait to see what kind of creature The Won appoints.

Basketball Jesus
05-26-2009, 04:22 AM
It's like three different kinds of Christmas.

Joe Kalicki
05-26-2009, 04:23 AM
Is the one where we have to watch for the smoke after the selection is made?

Jet
05-26-2009, 04:35 AM
Sotomayor according to CNN.com

Kirblar
05-26-2009, 04:48 AM
Yeah, this one's gonna get contentious due to the fact that one of her decisions may be about to be overturned in a few months. (N.H. firefighters.)

bartleby
05-26-2009, 04:54 AM
Yeah, this one's gonna get contentious due to...

It was going to get contentious regardless of who the pick was because that's all the Republicans seem to know how to do these days.

Ray G.
05-26-2009, 04:58 AM
It was going to get contentious regardless of who the pick was because that's all the Republicans seem to know how to do these days.

The Republicans can't really cause much trouble on their own.

He managed to pick the one person who even a handful of Dems may have a problem with. :lol:

Basketball Jesus
05-26-2009, 05:05 AM
Well, she's no Harriet Miers but few are.

Foolish Mortal
05-26-2009, 05:09 AM
He managed to pick the one person who even a handful of Dems may have a problem with. :lol:
Perhaps, but she is a woman and a Latino, and based on reading a profile about her (http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/05/02/2009-05-02_bronx_girl_makes_good_sonia_sotomayor_merits_lo ok_for_us_supreme_court_.html), she does have the kind of background that Obama was seeking. They're not going to fight Obama too much on this.

Mister Mets
05-26-2009, 05:30 AM
Perhaps, but she is a woman and a Latino, and based on reading a profile about her (http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/05/02/2009-05-02_bronx_girl_makes_good_sonia_sotomayor_merits_lo ok_for_us_supreme_court_.html), she does have the kind of background that Obama was seeking. They're not going to fight Obama too much on this.
The only hope the Republicans have to stop her is if enough of her decisions are controversial enough.

Technically, there may be some arguments that she's another Federal Judge, but because she's a Hispanic woman with such an impressive CV, I doubt that will be a significant concern.

Dan
05-26-2009, 06:24 AM
Dammit, passed over again!

RebootedCorpse
05-26-2009, 07:59 AM
She's a great pick. Another win for the President!

Gregory
05-26-2009, 08:01 AM
For the love of God, I hope her taxes are paid up.

Taxman
05-26-2009, 08:15 AM
Just what the country needs, another New York Liberal in Washington.

RebootedCorpse
05-26-2009, 08:19 AM
Just what the country needs, another New York Liberal in Washington.

Yeah, she'll probably legislate from the bench!

Taxman
05-26-2009, 08:23 AM
Yeah, she'll probably legislate from the bench!The bench? She'll probably legislate from some haughty cocktail party with beluga caviar stuck between her teeth.

Brad N.
05-26-2009, 08:31 AM
I haven't been watching Tv today, so have Republicans been calling her a horrible choice, hard left liberal activist judge who will legislate from the bench yet?

Brother Power the Gong
05-26-2009, 08:33 AM
I haven't been watching Tv today, so have Republicans been calling her a horrible choice, hard left liberal activist judge who will legislate from the bench yet?

No, only Corpse and Taxman.

jamestolliver
05-26-2009, 08:38 AM
I haven't been watching Tv today, so have Republicans been calling her a horrible choice, hard left liberal activist judge who will legislate from the bench yet?

Republican congressmen and senators have been pretty quiet. Some cite the fact that the president took time to meet with every member of the judiciary committee before the announcement as a reason for this grace. That hasn't stopped conservative organizations from coming out and lamenting empathy but the politicians have been pretty silent.

Matt Jay
05-26-2009, 08:40 AM
Have the conservatives spun this as another way to feel sorry for themselves yet?

Gregory
05-26-2009, 08:42 AM
I suppose some could say that suggesting a woman wear a long black robe all day is proof Obama is a Muslim.

RebootedCorpse
05-26-2009, 09:32 AM
No, only Corpse and Taxman.

You haven't been watching FOX "News."

Taxman
05-26-2009, 09:39 AM
You haven't been watching FOX "News."Lucky him.

Brother Power the Gong
05-26-2009, 09:42 AM
You haven't been watching FOX "News."

Lucky him.
:lol:

Well, that's always true.

Generic Poster
05-26-2009, 10:04 AM
I am shocked that the Republicans might filibuster this! Didn't they say all judicial nominees deserve an up or down vote?

Wigner's Friend
05-26-2009, 10:06 AM
She saved baseball, so that's good enough for me.

Gregory
05-26-2009, 10:08 AM
The best Limbaugh can do so far is to say "she's liberal, there is no worse pick."

bartleby
05-26-2009, 10:18 AM
A liberal President appointing a liberal judge to the Supreme Court?! That's not change. He should have nominated a Cocker Spaniel.

Wigner's Friend
05-26-2009, 10:20 AM
A liberal President appointing a liberal judge to the Supreme Court?! That's not change. He should have nominated a Cocker Spaniel.

Nixon approves.

http://www.dogguide.net/images/president-pets/Checkers.jpg

Brother Power the Gong
05-26-2009, 10:21 AM
A liberal President appointing a liberal judge to the Supreme Court?! That's not change. He should have nominated a Cocker Spaniel.

When Souter announced he was stepping down, I heard a good chunk of "Obama cannot nominate a far-left judge," whereas when W. got his two chances, he would have to nominate very conservative judges. And he did.

Dan-C
05-26-2009, 10:22 AM
I suppose some could say that suggesting a woman wear a long black robe all day is proof proves Obama is a Muslim.

:rofl:

Kirblar
05-26-2009, 11:56 AM
The problem is going to wind up being the NH firefighters case, especially if her decision on the appellate court is overturned.

Brian Defferding
05-26-2009, 12:01 PM
I suppose some could say that suggesting a woman wear a long black robe all day is proof Obama is a Muslim.

Ha! :lol:

Brother Power the Gong
05-26-2009, 12:02 PM
The problem is going to wind up being the NH firefighters case, especially if her decision on the appellate court is overturned.

Signs do point to that being a flashpoint. I think it depends on the breakdown: Another 5-4 decision means there's less hay to make. We currently have a very conservative court, Kennedy being the only moderate conservative up there.

bartleby
05-27-2009, 05:26 AM
But if they choose to vilify Sotomayor, Republicans take a huge gamble. They could lose even more women and Hispanic voters in 2010 and beyond. And they could alienate even more Independents already turned off by the Republican "just-say-no" approach to almost everything. (http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/robert_reich/2009/05/sotomayor-and-the-republicans.php?ref=fpblg)

Foolish Mortal
05-27-2009, 05:31 AM
I posted this in the Political thread, thought I'd post it here too..

Talking about the nomination on the Today Show this morning, Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) called President Obama, 'President Clinton'.

Slip of the tongue, or intentional?

I guess we'll never know because dumbass Matt Laurer didn't seem to catch it.

Whip
05-27-2009, 05:37 AM
I guess we'll never know because dumbass Matt Laurer didn't seem to catch it.

Well, he is glib.

Mister Mets
05-27-2009, 06:22 AM
I posted this in the Political thread, thought I'd post it here too..

Talking about the nomination on the Today Show this morning, Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) called President Obama, 'President Clinton'.

Slip of the tongue, or intentional?

I guess we'll never know because dumbass Matt Laurer didn't seem to catch it.

Slip of the tongue. This shit happens. An example is when Barack Obama said the words "Secretary of Defense William Gates."

usagi20
05-27-2009, 07:24 AM
Well, he is glib.

Suppressive and glib.

Foolish Mortal
05-27-2009, 07:28 AM
And lets get real here, lots of judges, liberal, moderate, and conservative legislate from the bench. What judge Sotomayor said wasn't shocking in the least.

The fake outrage from the Right is more than a little disingenuous.

bartleby
05-27-2009, 08:41 AM
It Sticks in My Craw [Mark Krikorian]

Most e-mailers were with me on the post on the pronunciation of Judge Sotomayor's name (and a couple griped about the whole Latina/Latino thing — English dropped gender in nouns, what, 1,000 years ago?). But a couple said we should just pronounce it the way the bearer of the name prefers, including one who pronounces her name "freed" even though it's spelled "fried," like fried rice. (I think Cathy Seipp of blessed memory did the reverse — "sipe" instead of "seep.") Deferring to people's own pronunciation of their names should obviously be our first inclination, but there ought to be limits. Putting the emphasis on the final syllable of Sotomayor is unnatural in English (which is why the president stopped doing it after the first time at his press conference), unlike my correspondent's simple preference for a monophthong over a diphthong, and insisting on an unnatural pronunciation is something we shouldn't be giving in to.

For instance, in Armenian, the emphasis is on the second syllable in my surname, just as in English, but it has three syllables, not four (the "ian" is one syllable) — but that's not how you'd say it in English (the "ian" means the same thing as in English — think Washingtonian or Jeffersonian). Likewise in Russian, you put the emphasis in my name on the final syllable and turn the "o" into a schwa, and they're free to do so because that's the way it works in their language. And should we put Asian surnames first in English just because that's the way they do it in Asia? When speaking of people in Asia, okay, but not people of Asian origin here, where Mao Tse-tung would properly have been changed to Tse-tung Mao. Likewise with the Mexican practice of including your mother's maiden name as your last name, after your father's surname.

This may seem like carping, but it's not. Part of our success in assimilation has been to leave whole areas of culture up to the individual, so that newcomers have whatever cuisine or religion or so on they want, limiting the demand for conformity to a smaller field than most other places would. But one of the areas where conformity is appropriate is how your new countrymen say your name, since that's not something the rest of us can just ignore, unlike what church you go to or what you eat for lunch. And there are basically two options — the newcomer adapts to us, or we adapt to him. And multiculturalism means there's a lot more of the latter going on than there should be.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzkwYzY3ZTc4NTkwZjRiMjM3OGVlMzlmNTZjYmY2ZDI=

Jonny Z
05-28-2009, 06:01 AM
so apparently her apartment is right down the block from me. My girlfriend was out walking the dog yesterday afternoon and saw a bunch of reporters and photogs outside a building on our block and she asked who they were waiting for and they told her Sotomayor was coming back home to her apartment.

my dog pees in her courtyard all the time. or should I say her "supreme" courtyard. heh heh.

Len Snark
05-28-2009, 02:50 PM
High School Yearbook Pic:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9866/d6kasc1nrnye47hgainceuv.jpg

bartleby
06-01-2009, 10:55 AM
It's ridiculous that Tancredo has the gall to call anyone racist after employing Marcus Epstein as his speechwriter:

"Diversity can be good in moderation -- if what is being brought in is desirable. Most Americans don't mind a little ethnic food, some Asian math whizzes, or a few Mariachi dancers -- as long as these trends do not overwhelm the dominant culture."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/epstein-diversity-can-be-good-in-moderation-as-long-as-trends-do-not-overwhelm-the-dominant-culture.php?ref=fpblg

Foolish Mortal
06-01-2009, 04:06 PM
It's ridiculous that Tancredo has the gall to call anyone racist after employing Marcus Epstein as his speechwriter:

"Diversity can be good in moderation -- if what is being brought in is desirable. Most Americans don't mind a little ethnic food, some Asian math whizzes, or a few Mariachi dancers -- as long as these trends do not overwhelm the dominant culture."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/epstein-diversity-can-be-good-in-moderation-as-long-as-trends-do-not-overwhelm-the-dominant-culture.php?ref=fpblg
Classy.

HOOKS
06-01-2009, 04:14 PM
It's ridiculous that Tancredo has the gall to call anyone racist after employing Marcus Epstein as his speechwriter:

"Diversity can be good in moderation -- if what is being brought in is desirable. Most Americans don't mind a little ethnic food, some Asian math whizzes, or a few Mariachi dancers -- as long as these trends do not overwhelm the dominant culture."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/epstein-diversity-can-be-good-in-moderation-as-long-as-trends-do-not-overwhelm-the-dominant-culture.php?ref=fpblg

My favorite part was his karate chopping a black woman and calling her a nigger.

But I guess it just makes Tancredo extra-knowledgeable of racism.

bartleby
06-01-2009, 04:19 PM
My favorite part was his karate chopping a black woman and calling her a nigger.

But I guess it just makes Tancredo extra-knowledgeable of racism.

Well, he is half-Jewish and half-Korean, so I guess that at least excuses the karate chop.

bartleby
06-09-2009, 03:56 PM
The GOP wants a couple of years to review all of Sotomayor's cases before the hearings take place. (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/senate-gops-reaction-to-sotomayor-hearings-well-have-to-review-76-cases-per-day.php)

Khrutch
06-09-2009, 04:13 PM
The GOP wants a couple of years to review all of Sotomayor's cases before the hearings take place. (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/senate-gops-reaction-to-sotomayor-hearings-well-have-to-review-76-cases-per-day.php)

Speaking of TRUTH, it's a year and a half, not a 'couple of years'.


I did some number-crunching, and it turns out that in order to get to the same per-case ratio as Roberts, then the hearings would have to start 610 days after the initial nomination -- or a year and half from the current scheduled date. If we waited for September, which Republicans have called for, that would bring the ratio down to about 34 cases reviewed per day.

;)

bartleby
06-10-2009, 06:52 AM
Okay, even I think this is a little too much.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/sotomayorcast

edwardmblake
06-10-2009, 07:11 AM
Speaking of TRUTH, it's a year and a half, not a 'couple of years'.

Which is dumb, because there is no need to review every case, especially since she has been approved by the Gov twice already.

Bill!
06-10-2009, 07:12 AM
Fucking hell. Can you imagine if the Democrats asked for a year and a half before even getting in session about a Bush nominee? They would have been burned at the stake.

They took a bunch of flak about Bush appointing his cleaning lady before the rest of the world finally realized she was a moron too.

Khrutch
06-11-2009, 06:00 PM
Supreme Court nominee Judge Sonia Sotomayor years ago said she was a "product of affirmative action" when she was admitted to prestigious universities, but defended the contributions she offered as a Hispanic woman to classroom and workplace diversity.

So, she was admitted based on race, not merit? How nice.


Minority judges bring "to the system more of a sense of fairness," said Sotomayor

Um…yeah...because all white judges are racist bigots who judge everyone based on nothing but skin color.

I could maybe like her if she would stop talking.

CNN: Soto-not-good for the Supreme Court (http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/11/sotomayor.affirmative.action/index.html)