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SpecialK
11-01-2008, 04:06 PM
The movie was on TV the other day and I remember John and Brubaker talking about it. I enjoyed it, and I was just wondering if there were any recommendations that I would also enjoy.

Pulp Messenger
11-01-2008, 09:11 PM
The movie was on TV the other day and I remember John and Brubaker talking about it. I enjoyed it, and I was just wondering if there were any recommendations that I would also enjoy.

Double Indemnity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Indemnity_(film)) would be a safe bet, as well as Out of the Past (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_Past). The Third Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Man) is absolutely fantastic as is Touch of Evil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_of_evil), if you haven't seen any Orson Welles lately. Also, there are other movies using the same character (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Marlowe#Film_adaptations) and they've all got that awesome "punchy yet flippant" attitude.

SpecialK
11-02-2008, 06:39 AM
Double Indemnity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Indemnity_(film)) would be a safe bet, as well as Out of the Past (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_Past). The Third Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Man) is absolutely fantastic as is Touch of Evil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_of_evil), if you haven't seen any Orson Welles lately. Also, there are other movies using the same character (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Marlowe#Film_adaptations) and they've all got that awesome "punchy yet flippant" attitude.

Thanks, I'll try to look into them.

Arion
11-02-2008, 07:46 AM
Double Indemnity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Indemnity_(film)) would be a safe bet, as well as Out of the Past (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_Past). The Third Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Man) is absolutely fantastic as is Touch of Evil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_of_evil), if you haven't seen any Orson Welles lately. Also, there are other movies using the same character (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Marlowe#Film_adaptations) and they've all got that awesome "punchy yet flippant" attitude.

I'll keep that in mind.

sonnylarue
11-02-2008, 10:14 AM
for me, half of the fascination about the film is how it's star, dick powell re-invented himself from being a "pretty boy singer" in musicals, to a legit private eye.

beyond films, he had a great funny PI radio series called richard diamond .

as for the character of philip marlowe, i enjoy watching the different people who've played him on film, from powell, to bogart to robert montgomery, to james garner, to robert mitchum and eliot gould, to powers boothe, etc.

Pulp Messenger
11-02-2008, 03:57 PM
for me, half of the fascination about the film is how it's star, dick powell re-invented himself from being a "pretty boy singer" in musicals, to a legit private eye.

beyond films, he had a great funny PI radio series called richard diamond .

as for the character of philip marlowe, i enjoy watching the different people who've played him on film, from powell, to bogart to robert montgomery, to james garner, to robert mitchum and eliot gould, to powers boothe, etc.

Eliot Gould was definitely my favorite Marlowe. I think this is because I know people that behave like Gould's Marlow, and not so many that act like Bogart and Powell's. I guess it comes down to how relatable the portrayal is in the end.

That being said, Powell is way more fun to hang out with for 95 minutes, and Moose Malloy is a great character.

I also love how those earlier noir films incorporated the narration into the narrative, rather than having a disembodied voice carry whatever the images couldn't. For Double Indemnity, Walter Neff is recounting his downfall into a dictaphone, and Murder, My Sweet has Marlowe going over his statement for the police. Letting the narrative inform the style is the best way to avoid empty clichés and hollow conventions.