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RED!
06-11-2005, 05:42 AM
..i really wish there was a What the Hell Category for stuff like this, (and or anything involving Goddard). Anyway i thought this pic was worth sharing, the article goes as follows...


http://trashotron.com/agony/images/2004/04-news/01-19-04/dragon.jpg

Pickled dragon mystery
THE TELEGRAPH, LONDON -- January 29, 2004

A pickled "dragon" that looks as if it might once have flown around Harry Potter's Hogwarts has been found in a garage in Oxfordshire, England.

The baby dragon, in a sealed jar, was discovered with a metal tin containing paperwork in old-fashioned German of the 1890s.

Allistair Mitchell, who was asked to investigate the dragon by a friend, David Hart, who discovered it in his garage, speculates that German scientists may have attempted to use the dragon to hoax their English counterparts at the end of the 19th century, when rivalry between the countries was intense.

"At the time, scientists were the equivalent of today's pop stars. It would have been a great propaganda coup for the Germans if it had come off," Mr Mitchell said.

"I've shown the photos to someone from Oxford University and he thought it was amazing. Obviously he could not say if it was real and wanted to do a biopsy."

The documents suggest that the Natural History Museum turned the dragon away, possibly because they suspected it was a trick, and sent it to be destroyed. But it appears a porter intercepted the jar and took it home. The papers suggest the porter may have been Frederick Hart - David Hart's grandfather.

Mr Mitchell said: "The dragon is flawless, from the tiny teeth to the umbilical cord. It could be made from indiarubber, because Germany was the world's leading manufacturer of it at the time, or it could be made of wax. It has to be fake. No one has ever proved scientifically that dragons exist. But everyone who sees it immediately asks, 'Is it real?"'

Some scientists believe that dragons, though the product of imagination, were inspired by the extraordinary creatures that once roamed the Earth.

As J.K.Rowling's alter ego Hermione Granger once suggested, legends have a basis in fact.

joeAR
06-11-2005, 05:43 AM
What the Fuck?

RED!
06-11-2005, 05:44 AM
What the Fuck?

i said what the hell but close enough! :p

joeAR
06-11-2005, 05:46 AM
i said what the hell but close enough! :p


That deserves a what the fuck, IMO.

RED!
06-11-2005, 06:03 AM
My brother and I are discussing this dragon picture at the moment, he brought up a good point. It has an umbilical cord, why would some one who is trying to pull off a hoax put an umbilical cord on a dragon normally associate dragons with coming from eggs. Why would they risk blowing the hoax by changing that?....makes ya wonder.

joeAR
06-11-2005, 06:05 AM
My brother and I are discussing this dragon picture at the moment, he brought up a good point. It has an umbilical cord, why would some one who is trying to pull off a hoax put an umbilical cord on a dragon normally associate dragons with coming from eggs. Why would they risk blowing the hoax by changing that?....makes ya wonder.


Maybe this was a special dragon. Maybe the Dragon's parents got down and dirty then 9months later, out of the vagina he came.

Mike Haseloff
06-11-2005, 06:06 AM
Source URL?

joeAR
06-11-2005, 06:07 AM
Source URL?

It it vanished. It was there once upon a time......

RED!
06-11-2005, 06:07 AM
Source URL?

https://notes.utk.edu/bio/greenberg.nsf/0/01e5a98015ad49a685256e2f000994c8?OpenDocument (https://notes.utk.edu/bio/greenberg.nsf/0/01e5a98015ad49a685256e2f000994c8?OpenDocument)

DungeonMasterJim
06-11-2005, 06:11 AM
Kinda reminds me of the couple a few years back that said they were attacked by baby Tyranosaurus Rex's in Idaho or somewhere. They supposedily had a corpse of that too.

An interesting and amusing story.

DM Jim

RED!
06-11-2005, 06:12 AM
Kinda reminds me of the couple a few years back that said they were attacked by baby Tyranosaurus Rex's in Idaho or somewhere. They supposedily had a corpse of that too.

An interesting and amusing story.

DM Jim

tell me you can find a URL for that :p i must read it!

Nick_Ardill
06-11-2005, 06:34 AM
Thats really friggin' cool. They should have those for sale. Sort of like the pickled Faeries in the Hellboy directors cut.

Cyrus Cheever
06-11-2005, 06:48 AM
well, now this is just fucked up. i've read some stupid shit on here, i've read some rediculous shit, i've seen facts and fiction, but i have never seen a baby dragon in a jar in all my days. this is just... just... fuck, i don't know what to say about that.


poor little bastard dragon.

RED!
06-11-2005, 06:51 AM
well, now this is just fucked up. i've read some stupid shit on here, i've read some rediculous shit, i've seen facts and fiction, but i have never seen a baby dragon in a jar in all my days. this is just... just... fuck, i don't know what to say about that.


poor little bastard dragon.

i went with what the hell, most are going for what the fuck...but something along those lines should cover it.
:p

noble
06-11-2005, 07:12 AM
Dickhammering sons of a fuckwhistle!

If this is real(and I'm not saying it is)

They should clone them and teach them stupid pet tricks.

So they can eat Letterman.

Then fly overhead and take flaming shits on New York.

Then take over Greenland as their home base and start mass producing cheap heating.

I smell movie.

Cyrus Cheever
06-11-2005, 07:23 AM
Dickhammering sons of a fuckwhistle!

If this is real(and I'm not saying it is)

They should clone them and teach them stupid pet tricks.

So they can eat Letterman.

Then fly overhead and take flaming shits on New York.

Then take over Greenland as their home base and start mass producing cheap heating.

I smell movie.
you've thought this out haven't you?

noble
06-11-2005, 07:40 AM
Lack of sleep and vigerous exercise makes strange things pop in your head.

Cyrus Cheever
06-11-2005, 08:24 AM
Lack of sleep and vigerous exercise makes strange things pop in your head.
i especially liked the 'Dickhammering sons of a fuckwhistle!' part. that is pure uniquitey.

noble
06-11-2005, 08:29 AM
Yes I use my massive intelligence to dream up new curse words.

It's my gift :p

Bandit Chimera
06-11-2005, 08:32 AM
thats interesting to say the least

Angel of Distraction
06-11-2005, 08:37 AM
My brother and I are discussing this dragon picture at the moment, he brought up a good point. It has an umbilical cord, why would some one who is trying to pull off a hoax put an umbilical cord on a dragon normally associate dragons with coming from eggs. Why would they risk blowing the hoax by changing that?....makes ya wonder.

Or they are just idiots.

ForkDolphin
06-11-2005, 09:34 AM
Why don't they just cut it open and analyze it and figure out what it is? These stories are great, but it seems like the people surrounding them have some real trouble doing the relatively simple task of figuring them out.

Thudpucker
06-11-2005, 09:47 AM
I saw this years ago, it's been floating around for a loooooong time.

And yes, it's fake.

But the thing that I thought was really odd is why would the guy give it an umbilicle cord? Reptiles are born and develop in eggs, they don't have them.

RED!
06-11-2005, 09:50 AM
Why don't they just cut it open and analyze it and figure out what it is? These stories are great, but it seems like the people surrounding them have some real trouble doing the relatively simple task of figuring them out.

as Ultimate Auron said...their just idiots...i second that opinion.

DrMachine
06-11-2005, 09:51 AM
I saw this years ago, it's been floating around for a loooooong time.

And yes, it's fake.

But the thing that I thought was really odd is why would the guy give it an umbilicle cord? Reptiles are born and develop in eggs, they don't have them.

it's a magical/mythical creature...who says they actually come from eggs, or don't do some weird egg/womb combo


Why don't they just cut it open and analyze it and figure out what it is? These stories are great, but it seems like the people surrounding them have some real trouble doing the relatively simple task of figuring them out.

if I found it, I'd be hard pressed to disect it...and thereby destroy it

RED!
06-11-2005, 09:51 AM
I saw this years ago, it's been floating around for a loooooong time.

And yes, it's fake.

But the thing that I thought was really odd is why would the guy give it an umbilicle cord? Reptiles are born and develop in eggs, they don't have them.

yeah i wondered that too. i mean most people , certainly people in the 1800s would associate dragons as being hatched from eggs.

V-Man
06-11-2005, 10:20 AM
I have been obsessed with Dragons as far back as i can remember. I find this intriguing, though it probably isnt real.

Amos Moses
06-11-2005, 10:21 AM
Support Vampirism.

andres
06-11-2005, 03:16 PM
I think you may want to take a look at this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/3576987.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/3576987.stm)

First post. Kind of lame, but it is late. I'll introduce myself tomorrow.

AndrEs

Angel of Distraction
06-11-2005, 06:21 PM
I think you may want to take a look at this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/3576987.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/3576987.stm)

First post. Kind of lame, but it is late. I'll introduce myself tomorrow.

AndrEs

And you'll get groped tonight.

:grope:

Bandit Chimera
06-11-2005, 07:05 PM
I think you may want to take a look at this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/3576987.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/3576987.stm)

First post. Kind of lame, but it is late. I'll introduce myself tomorrow.

AndrEs

you ruined it !!!! now we can't speculate anymore lol


j/k .....you did your homework and get a A plus


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