2 Brits face 6 years in Prison for having sex on the beach in Dubai.

[Jason California]

What a pair of maroons.



Revealed: The telecoms boss dubbed 'Vince Charming' at centre of Dubai 'sex on beach' case

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The man at the centre of the Dubai beach sex furore has been named as Vince Acors, a 34-year-old businessman from Kent.
His drunken encounter with fellow Briton Michelle Palmer could land them both in jail for six years.
Mr Acors - nicknamed 'Vince Charming' for his success with the opposite sex - was on a business trip to Dubai when he met Miss Palmer during an all-day drinking binge.


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Drunk: Vince Acors and Michelle Palmer were arrested after being allegedly caught having sex on a Dubai beach. They met hours earlier at a boozy brunch

Hours later, the father of one was arrested along with the 36-year-old publishing manager after they were caught having sex on a public beach.
Yesterday the pair were anxiously waiting to hear whether they will be charged in relation to their behaviour.
They face between three months and six years in jail, plus a fine and deportation for flouting the strict ban on sex outside marriage in the Muslim emirate.
Mr Acors, a telecoms firm director from Bromley who has a seven-year-old son with his former partner, was said to be 'beside himself with worry' yesterday after being told he cannot leave the country until police end their investigation.
The pair have both told police that they were so drunk they cannot even remember the sexual encounter in the early hours of Saturday. The case has now been passed from the Dubai police force to the prosecution service, which has to decide whether there is a case against them.

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It is understood that the pair's legal advisers have already lobbied the prosecutor not to continue - a perfectly normal legal manoeuvre in the emirate.
Mr Acors and Miss Palmer, who has since been sacked from ITP Publishing Group, spent much of yesterday in meetings with lawyers recommended to them from the British Embassy.
They have been told that they may have to wait up to three weeks until any court appearance. However, a source close to the pair revealed that they are 'quietly hopeful' that the charges will not reach court at all.
Yesterday Miss Palmer's former fiancé sprung to her defence. Journalist Max Paterson, 26, planned to marry Miss Palmer and the couple lived together in Peterborough after meeting through work contacts.
When the pair broke up, Miss Palmer wanted a new start and left Key Publishing, an aviation magazine company, to take the job with ITP Publishing in Dubai a year ago.

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Mr Paterson, who now lives in London with a new girlfriend, said: 'I went out to my local newsagent on Wednesday and I saw the story all over the paper. I was totally shocked by what I read, I just could not believe it. This is not theMichelle that I knew and planned to marry.
'It is all completely out of character for her. She's being painted as an awful person, but that's just not the case. I know her parents must be worried sick for her.'
Yesterday Miss Palmer's parents, Jim, 68, and Margaret, 65, who are both retired, had left their £150,000 terraced home in the village of Oakham, Rutland, to fly to Dubai to be with their daughter, neighbours said.
The beach where police caught Miss Palmer and Mr Acors having sex is popular with expatriates and holidaymakers.
They had met hours earlier at a champagne brunch at Le Meridien Hotel, where Miss Palmer got extremely drunk before going for a walk along the shore with her companion.
A police officer later spotted the pair having sex on the sand and let them off with a caution. But they ignored the warning and were arrested when the officer returned to the scene.
According to police sources, Miss Palmer launched an angry tirade at the policeman after being disturbed for a second time.
She is alleged to have hurled abuse and tried to hit him with her high-heeled shoe before being restrained and taken to a cell.
A source close to the couple said: 'Michelle and Vince woke up in police cells with monster hangovers, facing six years in jail.
'Vince is beside himself with worry - he never intended to offend anyone. And Michelle is absolutely devastated.'
Yesterday neighbours described Mr Acors as a polite, successful businessman.

[Black Roman]

Oy. This is just epically stupid on all sides. :no:

[RickLM]

They must have forgot they were in Dubai.

[Jason California]

Apparently the woman was beligerent to the cops and threw a shoe at them.

[Black Roman]

They must have forgot they were in Dubai.

A better question would be, Why Go to Dubai in the First Place?

[Jason California]

A better question would be, Why Go to Dubai in the First Place?


You can have fun there as long as you pay attention to the rules. There is also a lot of business activity there. It is the New New York.

[Black Roman]

You can have fun there as long as you pay attention to the rules. There is also a lot of business activity there. It is the New New York.

Yeah, I read the rules, and the rules are insane. I would see no other reason to go, except for business, then I'd be on the next flight outta dodge.

[RickLM]

A better question would be, Why Go to Dubai in the First Place?



Because your company pays you huge amounts of money to work there?

[Doug]

I didn't know they made stupid vacationers that weren't "Ugly Americans."

[Black Roman]

Because your company pays you huge amounts of money to work there?

Yeah, well I try to avoid places where I can be jailed for my personal preferences. ;)

[PatrickA]

Sounds like the cops gave them a fair chance.

[Jason California]

Yeah, well I try to avoid places where I can be jailed for my personal preferences. ;)


Most people aren't gay. A lot don't use drugs, and I most everybody I know can refrain from having sex on the beach. I see why it is the case for you, but a lot of people can work withing these laws.

[Black Roman]

Sounds like the cops gave them a fair chance.

Yeah, these two DID have it coming.

[Black Roman]

Most people aren't gay. A lot don't use drugs, and I most everybody I know can refrain from having sex on the beach. I see why it is the case for you, but a lot of people can work withing these laws.

That isn't the point, I was commenting that the laws themselves are stupid, and that's my opinion, different culture or no. I mean, you wouldn't be saying this if it was illegal to be black or something. :no:

[Bryan H]

Most people aren't gay. A lot don't use drugs, and I most everybody I know can refrain from having sex on the beach. I see why it is the case for you, but a lot of people can work withing these laws.

I thought the reason they were jailed was because they weren't a couple? Like there's no random shagging allowed.

Public sex certainly couldn't help them, of course.

[Generic Poster]

It is the New New York.

Except with no fucking, swearing or drugs!

[Jason California]

I thought the reason they were jailed was because they weren't a couple? Like there's no random shagging allowed.

Public sex certainly couldn't help them, of course.


I was not addressing that in the comment. Hellboy said he did not know why people would go there at all. He then said he would not go anywhere he would be jailed for over his prefferences. For most people the gay thing is not going to affect them since the majority are not.

[Black Roman]

I was not addressing that in the comment. Hellboy said he did not know why people would go there at all. He then said he would not go anywhere he would be jailed for over his prefferences. For most people the gay thing is not going to affect them since the majority are not.

Yeah, and the majority of ANYWHERE is not gay. Of course, there are more of us than you might think. :miffed:

I'm saying the rules of Dubai are stupid, and that's my opinion, it has nothing to do with this case. And yes, I know it's a different culture, but still, my opinion.

[Rob Helmerichs]

I'm saying the rules of Dubai are stupid, and that's my opinion, it has nothing to do with this case. And yes, I know it's a different culture, but still, my opinion.
If somebody from Dubai came to the US and killed his wife because she talked to another man, would you expect him to be tried for it? Even if he thinks our laws are stupid?

[Foolish Mortal]

Like I said in another thread, Dubai: 21st Century city, 16th Century laws.

Cool place to visit, but I would never want to live there.

[Jason California]

Yeah, and the majority of ANYWHERE is not gay. Of course, there are more of us than you might think. :miffed:

I'm saying the rules of Dubai are stupid, and that's my opinion, it has nothing to do with this case. And yes, I know it's a different culture, but still, my opinion.


That is great guy, you are entitled to it and I don't think there is anything wrong with it. All I said was that there are many people that can go there and have no problems.

I have a better idea of how many of "you" are out there than you think ;)

[Black Roman]

If somebody from Dubai came to the US and killed his wife because she talked to another man, would you expect him to be tried for it? Even if he thinks our laws are stupid?

Did I not just say that it has nothing to do with this case, that it was just an opinion? And how can you compare murder to swearing, sex, or homosexuality?

:no:

[Patch]

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[Ray G.]

Ugh. My opinions of Dubai's laws aside(and oh, boy do I have them) these guys are just a whole new level of stupid.

[Drkemerld73]

The pair have both told police that they were so drunk they cannot even remember the sexual encounter in the early hours of Saturday.

Dear Penthouse Letters,

Boy have I got a story to tell you... And I would. If I could remember the details. But what I do know is I may be going to jail.

[ClintP]

They must have forgot they were in Dubai.

Yep. That's what you get for going somewhere and forgetting you are not in your own cushy country anymore. WAH!

[Patch]

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[Jason California]

On the plus side, neither of these two will ever be "one-upped" when exchanging cock block stories with their buds.


No,no, the cops are saying they had "full sex". no cock blocking there.

[Patch]

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[NathanDetroit]

I thought the reason they were jailed was because they weren't a couple? Like there's no random shagging allowed.

Public sex certainly couldn't help them, of course.

yeah, apparently sex on a public beach is perfectly fine as long as the two are a married couple. but if they're not married? then it's illegal.

[t00lverine]

lol@Dubai. Worst resort ever.

[Twelvecents]

Apparently there is a gay underground culture in Dubai, but generally speaking the atmosphere is the shits. Too bad, that would really keep me out of the place on principle alone if I didn't have to go there.

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But boy, could I enjoy a week in a place like this. The picture on the right is just the bathroom in one of the suites.

[ClintP]

A police officer later spotted the pair having sex on the sand and let them off with a caution. But they ignored the warning and were arrested when the officer returned to the scene.
They got a warning and kept going? Morons...

[Bill Nolan]

How many of you live in countries where public sex is legal? :mistrust:

[t00lverine]

How many live in countries where you get six years in jail for said act?

[Jason California]

How many live in countries where you get six years in jail for said act?


Whats your point?

If you go to an Arab country you should expect draconian social laws. If you are so lucky to get a warning by the cops and continue to do so you deserve what you get.

[NickT]

Like I said in another thread, Dubai: 21st Century city, 16th Century laws.

Cool place to visit, but I would never want to live there.
Because of the scare stories I've heard, I'm not sure I'd want to even visit :)

[Bill Nolan]

How many live in countries where you get six years in jail for said act?

There isn't an eye roll smilie big enough for anybody who believes they will actually be sentenced to six years in jail and serve that time. News stories always lay out the max. in the sentencing spread. I believe the story also mentioned something about 3 months or so.

[Capt. Murphy]

I prefer Singapore for vacations in oppressive societies. China's a close second.

[Twelvecents]

There isn't an eye roll smilie big enough for anybody who believes they will actually be sentenced to six years in jail and serve that time. News stories always lay out the max. in the sentencing spread. I believe the story also mentioned something about 3 months or so.

Not to mention the cop actually gave them a pass the first time he caught them. If they'd had two brain cells to rub together there wouldn't even be a sentence to talk about.

[Wigner's Friend]

That's what you get for drinking alcohol in a Muslim country.

[Shepherd]

Those rules seems pretty silly. Remind me never to go to Dubai.

R

[Jason California]

I prefer Singapore for vacations in oppressive societies. China's a close second.


I thought you were someone else at first. Welcome to Benbo



Those rules seems pretty silly. Remind me never to go to Dubai.

Never go to Dubai Shep.

[Shepherd]

Never go to Dubai Shep.

Okay, I won't. Thanks for the reminder.

R

[Jason California]

Okay, I won't. Thanks for the reminder.

R


No problem, I feel just awful if you forgot, then got busted for something like this.

[t00lverine]

There isn't an eye roll smilie big enough for anybody who believes they will actually be sentenced to six years in jail and serve that time. News stories always lay out the max. in the sentencing spread. I believe the story also mentioned something about 3 months or so.

Even three months is insane. For sex in public? Let's not pretend this is reasonable.

[Jason California]

Even three months is insane. For sex in public? Let's not pretend this is reasonable.


It does not matter how reasonable we think it is. This is their country and their rules.

[t00lverine]

It does not matter how reasonable we think it is. This is their country and their rules.

Posting this article in the first place doesn't matter either. What's your point?

[Jason California]

Posting this article in the first place doesn't matter either. What's your point?


I think they deserve it.

They went their knowing the social restrictions.

The fundamentalist even gave them a warning.

the female cussed at the cop and threw her shoe at him.

I doubt they will get 6 years, but if they do I have no empathy for them.

[t00lverine]

I think they deserve it.

They went their knowing the social restrictions.

The fundamentalist even gave them a warning.

the female cussed at the cop and threw her shoe at him.

I doubt they will get 6 years, but if they do I have no empathy for them.

I don't know, dude. yes, values are different in different places, but this still seems extreme.

[Jason California]

I don't know, dude. yes, values are different in different places, but this still seems extreme.

Of course it is extreme. Many of these people still live in the dark ages for goodness sake.

If a white rich guy goes into the ghetto by himself and flashes a lot of cash what is going to happen? He is going to get it taken away from him. If he walks away unhurt he will be lucky. You would think it is not right, but the fool had it coming.

That is what they did, but it is worse here, someone gave them a chance to fix the situation before and they gave him a big fuck you.