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The Roman Candle
06-08-2005, 09:47 PM
Anti-rape device must be banned, say women
From Jonathan Clayton in Johannesburg
FURIOUS South African women have called for a controversial new anti-rape device, dubbed a “rat trap”, to be banned by the Government.

The tampon-like device, invented by a woman, supposedly protects women from rapists by cutting into a man’s penis.

It has sparked an empassioned debate over the high number of rapes committed each day in the country and the authorities’ apparent failure to tackle the issue.

Activists are outraged and want to stop it going on sale alongside tampons in chemists and supermarkets next month.

Charlene Smith, a leading anti-rape campaigner, said: “This is a medieval instrument, based on male-hating notions and fundamentally misunderstands the nature of rape and violence against women in this society. It is vengeful, horrible, and disgusting. The woman who invented this needs help.”

The device, which Sonette Ehlers, its inventor, has patented, is worn like a tampon but is hollow. In the event of a rape, she said that it would fold around the rapist’s penis and attach itself with microscopic hooks. It is impossible to remove the clamped device without medical intervention.

“We have to do something to protect ourselves. While this will not prevent rape, it will help identify attackers and secure convictions,” Ms Ehlers told the Johannesburg Star.

Women’s groups disputed her claims, which have reopened a debate over violence against women in South Africa. The country has been called the rape capital of the world. Lisa Vetten, of the Centre of Violence and Reconciliation, said: “This is like going back to the days when women were forced to wear chastity belts. It is a terrifying thought that women are being made to adapt to rape.”

The South African Law Commission recently estimated that 1.69 million women a year were raped in the country but that only 52,000 cases a year are reported. Other estimates put the rate even higher.

Ms Smith said: “More than 40 per cent of those raped are children and nationally more than 65 per cent are gang rapes. Whether this translates as a woman raped every 26 seconds or more is irrelevant. It is far too many and not enough is being done to tackle it. This is not a male-only problem, it is a societal problem.”

The activist’s views were echoed by Jenny Crwys- William, the host of a popular radio talk show, who described the device as a “profoundly disturbing” development that underlined how society was in danger of accepting rape as a reality of everyday life. “We need more police and more sensitive police responses to rape. When more rapists go behind bars, rape rates will go down,” she told listeners.

Many callers criticised the Government for a “head in the sand” approach similar to its well-known reluctance to accept the gravity of the HIV/Aids epidemic in the country.

“This will increase the danger to women, who are already in great danger during a rape. The Government must not allow this to go on sale,” one rape victim, who was stabbed twice during an attack, said.

:mistrust:

I would fear this device being abused. Guys, this is why we explore before we bore.

batphone begins
06-08-2005, 09:50 PM
damn that shit is like "Well all guys are rapists, so let's massmarket this anti-rape device"

Amos Moses
06-08-2005, 09:51 PM
Jesus, 1.69 MILLION women raped a year? What the fuck is going on there?

En Sabah Poo
06-08-2005, 09:52 PM
Wow. They don't really think ahead on that one. What if a woman accidentally mistook it for a tampon?

What if a man raping her was so mad about it, he killed her? Which I am sure will happen quite often.

LenNWallace
06-08-2005, 09:54 PM
Yikes... This is precisely the reason why I ALWAYS go down on a girl before we get to the dirtiest deed.

Amos Moses
06-08-2005, 09:54 PM
What if a man raping her was so mad about it, he killed her? Which I am sure will happen quite often.


But wouldn't he be dragging a corpse around with his pecker?

En Sabah Poo
06-08-2005, 09:55 PM
But wouldn't he be dragging a corpse around with his pecker?

I think it comes out, its just like he has a tampon shaped mouse trap on his dick.

LenNWallace
06-08-2005, 09:55 PM
But wouldn't he be dragging a corpse around with his pecker?
Hmmm... Might be obvious.

Mike Haseloff
06-08-2005, 09:57 PM
I think the device is not without merit, as long as it's safe for the woman to wear...

LenNWallace
06-08-2005, 10:00 PM
I think the device is not without merit, as long as it's safe for the woman to wear...
Yeah, I do agree with that, but I can definately see it being abused.

Mike Haseloff
06-08-2005, 10:02 PM
Yeah, I do agree with that, but I can definately see it being abused.Anything can be abused, and whether or not it could insight murder is arguable... you could say the same things about underwear.


I think it's a good thing.

batphone begins
06-08-2005, 10:02 PM
those crazy goth chicks are gonna have a field day

Ben
06-08-2005, 10:04 PM
Uh, the anti-rape device they're talking about doesn't exist. It's sort of a joke. Or an artistic statement. Or something. I've seen their website. So I think this article is a joke, too.

LenNWallace
06-08-2005, 10:05 PM
Anything can be abused, and whether or not it could insight murder is arguable... you could say the same things about underwear.


I think it's a good thing.
Does give me an idea for a serial killer story, though.

Corwin: Bear Fighter
06-08-2005, 10:06 PM
I think the device is not without merit, as long as it's safe for the woman to wear...

The device is without merit. It's a backhanded "defense" against something that we should actually find ways of preventing instead of adapting to.
Instead of saying "hey, you're gonna get raped anyway, use this piece of crap and risk further injury", we should be working on eliminating rape. It's like giving painkillers to someone just in case they get AIDS, instead of teaching them safe sex as a measure to prevent it, or even better yet, putting forth the energy to find a cure.
In the long run this device is just going to teach would-be rapists that rape is ok as long as the lady doesn't have the device.

The Roman Candle
06-08-2005, 10:06 PM
Uh, the anti-rape device they're talking about doesn't exist. It's sort of a joke. Or an artistic statement. Or something. I've seen their website. So I think this article is a joke, too.

It's from the Times of London...

batphone begins
06-08-2005, 10:07 PM
they should ban bras

Corwin: Bear Fighter
06-08-2005, 10:08 PM
they should ban bras

I say thee nay!

What about the droopage?!

batphone begins
06-08-2005, 10:08 PM
I say thee nay!

What about the droopage?!

regulation bras will be issued to the ones with droppage

Nick_Ardill
06-08-2005, 10:09 PM
:mistrust:

I would fear this device being abused. Guys, this is why we explore before we bore.
I think all the ladies became very made when they read that line. :scared:

Ben
06-08-2005, 10:09 PM
It's from the Times of London...

Is that the same paper that reported that Governor Arnold wanted to blow up the moon?

LenNWallace
06-08-2005, 10:10 PM
I say thee nay!

What about the droopage?!
Fried eggs hangin' on a nail!

The Roman Candle
06-08-2005, 10:11 PM
Is that the same paper that reported that Governor Arnold wanted to blow up the moon?

At the moment I'm gonna go with 'no'... it's the paper that broke the Downing Street Memo...

Corwin: Bear Fighter
06-08-2005, 10:12 PM
Is that the same paper that reported that Governor Arnold wanted to blow up the moon?

Hey, it's a proven fact that Arnold is secretly building an anti-moon weapon!

Mike Haseloff
06-08-2005, 10:12 PM
The device is without merit. It's a backhanded "defense" against something that we should actually find ways of preventing instead of adapting to.
Instead of saying "hey, you're gonna get raped anyway, use this piece of crap and risk further injury", we should be working on eliminating rape. It's like giving painkillers to someone just in case they get AIDS, instead of teaching them safe sex as a measure to prevent it, or even better yet, putting forth the energy to find a cure.
In the long run this device is just going to teach would-be rapists that rape is ok as long as the lady doesn't have the device.That's a seperate issue. While we try to find prevention, it's an assertion that speaks volumes about the process.

Right now, defense is better than nothing.
The simple fact is, it's a heinous crime and it's not going to be weeded out of society anytime soon. Better to act and talk, than talk and let it keep happening.

If it's teaching rapists that it's "okay" if they're unprotected, it doesn't change the situation. They're still rapists, they still need to be stopped, and hopefully a device like this would be empowering enough to create an atmosphere that would encourage women to speak up against such crimes.
The more confidence women have, the more chance they'll make sufficient reports. Which leads to arrests. Which leads to a climate less accepting.

It's narrow sighted, and callous to say a device like this is WITHOUT merit.

People denying the application of things like this obviously aren't putting themselves close enough to the situation. Agree or disagree, it has a use.

Caley Tibbittz
06-08-2005, 10:14 PM
Sure it has a use... until someone forgets to take it out before they have sex with someone they want to... fun time, that would be.

Nick_Ardill
06-08-2005, 10:14 PM
Hey, it's a proven fact that Arnold is secretly building an anti-moon weapon!
Naaahhh!!!! Damn You Moon!

Corwin: Bear Fighter
06-08-2005, 10:18 PM
Naaahhh!!!! Damn You Moon!

CROM!!!

Humphrey_Lee
06-08-2005, 10:31 PM
Is that the same paper that reported that Governor Arnold wanted to blow up the moon?

Well, who doesn't want to do that? Look at it up there... just laughin at us....
worthless bastard...

joespam
06-09-2005, 06:18 AM
When I saw this on FARK yesterday I was wondering if anyone was gonna post this. My first thought was the 'dentata' device in Neal Stephenson's 'Snow Crash.' Imagine if your girlfriend wore one for protection and then one night forgot to take it out before a date. Yeep.

But as a weapon in the arsenal against rape. I think it's an ingenious idea. Talk about negative reinforcement. Of course, if it becomes common, rapists will start checking for it beforehand.

But to categorically condemn the idea of the device it is stupid. Of course prevention and other roads should be actively pursued. Of course defending yourself in any way is a risk. But so is not defending yourself.

This device is just about the last line of defense. If nothing else, I'd hope that it'd give victims some measure of empowerment - knowing that if the unthinkable happened to them again, despite their best efforts, at least the son of a bitch would get hurt while attempting it. To deny someone that or make them feel bad for wanting it doesn't really earn my respect.

Ray G.
06-09-2005, 06:22 AM
Note to self. Always inspect. And never date girls with S&M fixations.

ThisSpaceForRent
06-09-2005, 06:31 AM
It's like giving painkillers to someone just in case they get AIDS

Yeah....it's just like that... :rolleyes:

Jim T.
06-09-2005, 06:32 AM
Meh. This has Snopes written all over it...by Friday, Saturday latest someone (probably me) will have the debunking of this posted.