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bartleby
03-21-2008, 12:37 PM
Breaking! Jericho Canceled
Well, crap.
Inside sources are confirming that CBS has pulled the plug on Jericho, informing the producers and cast that no more episodes will be filmed, and the network just released the following statement about the series:
"The March 25 episode of Jericho will be the series finale. Without question, there are passionate viewers watching this program; we simply wish there were more. We thank an engaged and spirited fan base for keeping the show alive this long, and an outstanding team of producers, cast and crew that went through creative hoops to deliver a compelling, high quality second season. We have no regrets bringing the show back for a second try. We listened to our viewers, gave the series an opportunity to grow, and the producers put a great story on the screen. We're proud of everyone's efforts."
Obviously, this is a heartbreaking blow to the fans who worked tirelessly to send millions of nuts to CBS to resurrect Jericho from the dead the last time around.
No official word back yet from the producers. We'll let you know if/when we do hear more.
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Rod Nunley
03-21-2008, 12:40 PM
Thank god. I needed more room for reality television crap.
Lab-Rat
03-21-2008, 12:42 PM
You know what? I'm not surprised about this. Luckly we'll at least get a conclusion to the series since they filmed 2 endings (one for if they were renewed and another for if they were cancelled).
I am happy with what we got, though....even if I do wish we would have gotten more.
Petey Parker
03-21-2008, 12:43 PM
God damn CBS!
They shouldn't have gotten my hopes up by saying "Season Finale" on the preview for next week's episode
Lab-Rat
03-21-2008, 12:44 PM
God damn CBS!
They shouldn't have gotten my hopes up by saying "Season Finale" on the preview for next week's episode
well..technically they didn't lie. It IS the season finale...just happens to be the Series Finale as well.
Thudpucker
03-21-2008, 12:45 PM
Son of a bitch :mad::sad:
Thudpucker
03-21-2008, 12:46 PM
Maybe the sci-fi channel would be interested in saving it?
Dave S.
03-21-2008, 12:49 PM
Meh. This show was never more than half good.
All those crappy romance plot-lines. That kid who owned the store and the rich girl? Uhg. Mimi and Stanley? Bleh. And not enough screen time for Heather the hottie.
Ray G.
03-21-2008, 12:51 PM
No surprise on this one.
Season one was a mini-masterpiece. Season two shifted so drastically in tone, with a central "big bad" and a far-too-quick resolution of season one's brilliant cliffhanger. I have to say, I expected stronger initial ratings, though.
niceguyeddie
03-21-2008, 12:51 PM
at least we get an ending... that's more than a half decent show would normally get.
Lab-Rat
03-21-2008, 12:54 PM
No surprise on this one.
Season one was a mini-masterpiece. Season two shifted so drastically in tone, with a central "big bad" and a far-too-quick resolution of season one's brilliant cliffhanger. I have to say, I expected stronger initial ratings, though.
Honestly I think the problem with the second season stem from the fact that it's only 7 episodes. If it were at LEAST 13 episodes or more, I think things would have been able to be paced better. However for what we got, it was pretty good. I look forward to next week's episode and seeing how they tie everything up....cause sadly they got a lot of ground to cover.
Thudpucker
03-21-2008, 01:08 PM
No surprise on this one.
Season one was a mini-masterpiece. Season two shifted so drastically in tone, with a central "big bad" and a far-too-quick resolution of season one's brilliant cliffhanger. I have to say, I expected stronger initial ratings, though.
The thing about season 2 that worried me most was:
Bonnies death. My favorite thing about this series were the great character moments. I loved the family interactions and how they all dealt with various stress.
With both the Father and Bonnie dead the heart of the show is gone. Jake renewing his relationship with his father was the main theme of the show I felt. Redemption. There are ways to work around it (like Grandfather dreams) but killing the father ripped a big hole in the heart of the show.
And then they killed Bonnie. That was too much. The whole tax collector falling in love with the hick farmer plot was the only fun, joyfull part of the show. Bonnie falling in love with the jerk kid, all of them making a family. The show needed that subplot to remain happy and hopefull.
oh well.
Thudpucker
03-21-2008, 01:10 PM
Honestly I think the problem with the second season stem from the fact that it's only 7 episodes. If it were at LEAST 13 episodes or more, I think things would have been able to be paced better. However for what we got, it was pretty good. I look forward to next week's episode and seeing how they tie everything up....cause sadly they got a lot of ground to cover.
Maybe CBS will allow a tv movie to wrap everything up a bit better. If they did it would make a DVD set worth buying too, 7 episodes is barely worth putting out.
Lab-Rat
03-21-2008, 01:18 PM
Well Supposedly earlier this month they announced the Season 2 DVD set to be released on June 10th....then the next day they pulled the listing.
So who knows what that means.
bartleby
03-21-2008, 01:26 PM
Well Supposedly earlier this month they announced the Season 2 DVD set to be released on June 10th....then the next day they pulled the listing.
So who knows what that means.
It doesn't mean that the show is coming back.
Lab-Rat
03-21-2008, 01:37 PM
It doesn't mean that the show is coming back.
I never said it would. I was just reffering to the show being on DVD. Hell...most likely the reason it was pulled was because they weren't supposed to make the announcement yet. They probably wanted to wait till the show was over.
The Dean
03-21-2008, 01:38 PM
Nuts!
CharleMurphy8311
03-21-2008, 01:57 PM
Meh. This show was never more than half good.
All those crappy romance plot-lines. That kid who owned the store and the rich girl? Uhg. Mimi and Stanley? Bleh. And not enough screen time for Heather the hottie.
Dave S is back.
Awesome!
I hated those kids on Jericho...but i must admit i am still a huge fan of Stimi....I like those love/hate relationships....
but I think the show really shot themselves in the foot by putting so much story into seven episodes.....it even turned off some fans from the first season...
here's hoping they make tv-movies of it...
FedEx Fanboy
03-21-2008, 11:33 PM
And stay dead!!!
bartleby
03-22-2008, 04:07 AM
And stay dead!!!
SCRUBS is coming back for another season.
Albert
03-22-2008, 04:09 AM
SCRUBS is coming back for another season.
:heart:
Boris the Blade
03-22-2008, 05:06 AM
Thank god. I needed more room for reality television crap.
Yep, they'll soon replace all the dramatic shows on television with reality gameshows. That's how it works.
Gunter
03-22-2008, 05:20 AM
I'm just glad that this time they know it's ending so they'll have a proper send off.
Need_A_Kiss
03-22-2008, 05:34 AM
Kinda glad this happened... the whole subplot with the vampires was really throwing me off
Thudpucker
03-22-2008, 05:47 AM
I was reading posts about this on another board and I think I see why the show failed. Most of the people there didn't like the show because it wasn't grim and violent enough. They wanted a post-nuclear hell show.
Ray G.
03-22-2008, 05:48 AM
I was reading posts about this on another board and I think I see why the show failed. Most of the people there didn't like the show because it wasn't grim and violent enough. They wanted a post-nuclear hell show.
I doubt that board was representative of the audience.
Thudpucker
03-22-2008, 05:50 AM
I doubt that board was representative of the audience.
They were represntative of people interested in the concept of the show but who stopped watching it.
That's the point. There are alot of them it seems, hence low ratings and cancelation.
Foolish Mortal
03-22-2008, 05:50 AM
SCRUBS is coming back for another season.
Yeah, a show that is played out is coming back, but a show that was starting to really get good gets the axe. :bored:
Meteornotes
03-22-2008, 05:51 AM
Not surprised. CBS has always stood for "Cancel our Best Show" (American Gothic, EZ Streets). I look forward to another CSI show on the schedule next year.
I think the seven episode order really hurt the show. There was just not enough time for them to really develop the story. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted...
dt
Ray G.
03-22-2008, 05:52 AM
They were represntative of people interested in the concept of the show but who stopped watching it.
That's the point. There are alot of them it seems, hence low ratings and cancelation.
It's just odd, because I never heard that complaint on other boards.
The impression I got is that people felt the current season was too compressed, and that it wasn't nearly as interesting watching them battle Cheyenne as it was watching them battle last season's enemies.
bartleby
03-22-2008, 06:24 AM
Not surprised. CBS has always stood for "Cancel our Best Show" (American Gothic, EZ Streets). I look forward to another CSI show on the schedule next year.
CBS, like pretty much every other network, cancels the shows that are least profitable. Blame the American public for not wanting to watch the best shows.
Foolish Mortal
03-22-2008, 06:26 AM
CBS, like pretty much every other network, cancels the shows that are least profitable. Blame the American public for not wanting to watch the best shows.
Agreed. FOX gets the worst rap for this, but FOX has bent over backwards pushing shows hard trying to keep them on, but in the end, if people don't watch, then it can't be sustained.
Not only is Jericho dead, but so is the chance of any network taking a fan campaign seriously again.
Randy Hassan
03-22-2008, 08:16 AM
Is CBS sending back the nuts?
FedEx Fanboy
03-22-2008, 08:18 AM
SCRUBS is coming back for another season.
I know, I'm so excited!!!
That means I get another year to lambaste it into the ground!!!
:D
Meteornotes
03-22-2008, 11:58 AM
CBS, like pretty much every other network, cancels the shows that are least profitable. Blame the American public for not wanting to watch the best shows.
Actually, I blame the ratings system, as I've always felt it is inacccurate. I'd love to see how different it would be if it actually measured every television, just not a samplling. Kind of like how Soundscan totally changed the record charts when they came into existence.
dt
bartleby
03-22-2008, 12:03 PM
Actually, I blame the ratings system, as I've always felt it is inacccurate.
Ratings should be determined by having the audience mail some sort of food item or trinket to the Nielsen headquarters.
Doug O
03-22-2008, 01:15 PM
I don't think it's a stretch to say the smarter shows might have a smaller audience, people want pap. There are a lot of people at my work who are totally into American Idol.
(Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Jericho is the smartest show out there, just well-written and it definitely has respect for it's audience.)
I don't think it's a stretch to say the smarter shows might have a smaller audience, people want pap. There are a lot of people at my work who are totally into American Idol.
Jericho failed to maintain the audience it attracted though. Yes, shows like American Idol are far more accessible to casual viewers. If you do get people to watch your show though, and they choose not to come back, who's to blame for that?
According to the internet, FOX. FOX is apparently responsible for the cancellation of every show ever. In fact, they often produce, market, and air programs with the express intent of prematurely canceling it because they've run out of puppies to drown.
Meteornotes
03-22-2008, 01:35 PM
Ratings should be determined by having the audience mail some sort of food item or trinket to the Nielsen headquarters.
Um, yeah, that's exactly what I was referring to. Oh wait, no it wasn't.
I did find it interesting to read that the show apparently does very well online and through the ITunes store. Have we reached the point where a television show could sustain itself through online purchases or DVD sales? I never saw how those direct to DVD Babylon 5 episodes sold, but I thought it was an interesting experiment.
dt
Doug O
03-22-2008, 01:54 PM
Don't forget the revenue from those Sprint product placements, that is getting a little annoying but it makes me wonder how much it adds to the bottom line ... Probably it's gravy, not a reason to have a show.
As far as on-line, etc., I have not watched a single episode of the current run during the Tuesday 10 p.m. PST timeslot. (OK, we're not cool, we put in a good old VHS tape and taped them all.)
Meteornotes
03-22-2008, 02:00 PM
^Yeah, we never watch it "live" either (the only show we watch "live" is Lost). My wife is usually asleep by 10, so we watch it the next night. I think with the proliferation of DVRs that a greater number of people are doing this than ever before. I know they make some ratings adjustments for DVR viewing, but there has been some contention in the past about how accurate they are. I'm still not sure why the cable box jost doesn't report what people are watching to get a better number, but I suspect that the amounts of money that networks and other people pay to Nielsen has a lot to do with this.
dt
joespam
03-22-2008, 02:31 PM
Too bad. I like this show, though I think the accelerated pace hurt it, story-wise.
XXXenophile
03-22-2008, 03:05 PM
Is CBS sending back the nuts?
CBS used them all in a HOH competition on Big Brother.
Thudpucker
03-22-2008, 05:40 PM
Too bad. I like this show, though I think the accelerated pace hurt it, story-wise.
I think it would have been fine assuming they had solid idea's for season 3. I like that they pulled back temporarily and showed us the big picture of what is happening in the US, but I also like that they didn't spend 20+ episodes doing it. 7 is rushed but if they hadn't cancelled the show I bet season 3 would have returned to a simular situation as season 1, the country in chaos and Jericho isolted and on it's own.
Thudpucker
03-25-2008, 07:21 PM
Well, that's it. All in all a good final episode.
Still hoping for a movie or possibly a tv mini-series but if this was all there ever it's ok.
Ray G.
03-25-2008, 07:24 PM
Yeah, not a bad final episode, all in all.
The best part of the episode was Constantino's appearance, but it only served to remind me how much better a villain New Bern was as opposed to Cheyenne.
Thudpucker
03-25-2008, 07:30 PM
Yeah, not a bad final episode, all in all.
The best part of the episode was Constantino's appearance, but it only served to remind me how much better a villain New Bern was as opposed to Cheyenne.
I like the idea of New Bern being an uneasy ally against a bigger foe much better.
In season 3 my guess is troops would mostly pull out of towns not on national borders to fight in the civil war. That would mean that contractors would come back in to police and the towns would be on their own again, fighting off pilagers.
Things would go back to how it was in season 1 except that now the two towns would have a common enemy. Do they unite or go back to settling fueds and stealing each others land?
It would have been good.
Doug O
03-26-2008, 05:56 AM
Sounds like the producer is trying to sell it to Sci Fi Channel.
I really enjoyed this season, but am kind of glad it went out on top. Interesting how it started out melodramatic and got less so and more enjoyable over time.
Foolish Mortal
03-26-2008, 06:03 AM
At least it ended on somewhat of a positive note. I'm sure my fellow Texans liked how Texas saved the day at the end. :lol:
Thudpucker
03-26-2008, 06:24 AM
At least it ended on somewhat of a positive note. I'm sure my fellow Texans liked how Texas saved the day at the end. :lol:
I think in that world I'm screwed. If nukes went off in both Dallas and Houston the fallout would probably wipe out anyone in Austin.
Jumbopimp
03-26-2008, 06:30 AM
Sounds like the producer is trying to sell it to Sci Fi Channel.
I really enjoyed this season, but am kind of glad it went out on top. Interesting how it started out melodramatic and got less so and more enjoyable over time.
I would love it if they sold this show to Sci Fi. It could actually be two really good shows.
1 is Jerico proper that is the town trying to survive as a Civil War wages around it.
2 would be Jerico Civil War take the premise of a civil war between the ASA and USA.
Foolish Mortal
03-26-2008, 06:35 AM
I think in that world I'm screwed. If nukes went off in both Dallas and Houston the fallout would probably wipe out anyone in Austin.
Well it would depend primarily on what direction the wind is blowing in the aftermath.
Also, the bombs they used appeared to be small-yield nukes. Just powerful enough to destroy the intended cities, but not much else outside of that.
Lab-Rat
03-26-2008, 06:55 AM
man...I'm a little annoyed right now. My DVR didn't record the episode for some reason. On top of that my Xbox is needing to be sent in for repair so I can't get the episode on the live market place. damnit. It's going to be a while before I can watch the episode.
As for them shopping the show around to other networks...I honestly don't think they'll get on another network. If they do...good for them and I'll be there all the way watching every episode. However I don't think it will happen.
Honestly I doubt Sci-Fi would pick it up...I mean...the show isn't a sci-fi show.
Gunter
03-26-2008, 07:01 AM
man...I'm a little annoyed right now. My DVR didn't record the episode for some reason. On top of that my Xbox is needing to be sent in for repair so I can't get the episode on the live market place. damnit. It's going to be a while before I can watch the episode.
As for them shopping the show around to other networks...I honestly don't think they'll get on another network. If they do...good for them and I'll be there all the way watching every episode. However I don't think it will happen.
Honestly I doubt Sci-Fi would pick it up...I mean...the show isn't a sci-fi show.
They were already airing replays of Jericho on Sci Fi.
Foolish Mortal
03-26-2008, 07:42 AM
Honestly I doubt Sci-Fi would pick it up...I mean...the show isn't a sci-fi show.
It's a show about an alternate reality United States. It would work.
Lab-Rat
03-26-2008, 07:44 AM
They were already airing replays of Jericho on Sci Fi.
ah. Didn't know that.
still seems like a weird fit. Then again..Sci-Fi does air wrestling...so...yeah...I guess anything can be aired on that network.
Still don't think they'll pick it up, though.
It ended okay. I don't really have any interest in seeing where the story would've gone after this. To me, the appeal of the show was the post-nuclear war thing where they were all isolated and information was scarce. That had to end eventually.
aasutton
03-26-2008, 10:31 AM
Actually, I blame the ratings system, as I've always felt it is inacccurate. I'd love to see how different it would be if it actually measured every television, just not a samplling. Kind of like how Soundscan totally changed the record charts when they came into existence.
dt
Just out of curiosity, what are you basing this feeling on?
aasutton
03-26-2008, 10:38 AM
^Yeah, we never watch it "live" either (the only show we watch "live" is Lost). My wife is usually asleep by 10, so we watch it the next night. I think with the proliferation of DVRs that a greater number of people are doing this than ever before. I know they make some ratings adjustments for DVR viewing, but there has been some contention in the past about how accurate they are. I'm still not sure why the cable box jost doesn't report what people are watching to get a better number, but I suspect that the amounts of money that networks and other people pay to Nielsen has a lot to do with this.
dt
Nielsen now provides several viewing numbers: overnights, live +3, and live +7 viewing. They also provide stand-alone DVR viewing measurements. In fact, Entertainment Weekly (in the last issue?) listed the ranking for the most DVRed shows with Jericho scoring fairly high.
Personally, I think that the reality shows are being watched live so that people can join in the discussions about who won and lost the next day. Non-reality shows however can be recorded and watched in a more leisurely fashion.
In a previous post you contended that Nielsen must be inaccurate because they use a scientific sampling to measure viewing. But in this post you are saying that viewing should be measured using a completely unscientific sample: viewing through cable boxes. What about over the air viewing or people who have cable running straight to their tv without a cable box? This is a bit of a disconnect in your reasoning.
Disclaimer: I work for The Nielsen Company's Media Measurement business, but am curious about the sometimes inaccurate views that people have of our business.
metrusical
03-26-2008, 01:37 PM
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TV-Show-Blog/Jericho/Jericho-Episode-Recap/800036261&start=0
Gunter
03-26-2008, 02:01 PM
I enjoyed the finale, even though it was the most predictible episode of Jericho that I've watched.
While I wish they could have told more stories, I'm happy they were able to end it on something other than a cliffhanger.
Lab-Rat
03-27-2008, 05:28 AM
yeah. Finally got to watch the last episode. I agree with most people in that this episode was REALLY predictable. It gave us the happy ending that everyone was hoping for the characters...while at the same time saying "hey...if we can...there's still more to tell."
Even with that, it was a good ending for the show. If we never get another episode of Jericho or the some other form of the show (and I don't think we will), I'm content. If somehow this show dodges fates a second time (which, again, I don't think it will)..then I will be there to support it and see where these characters go next.
bartleby
01-15-2009, 09:11 AM
JERICHO headed to the big screen? (http://ifmagazine.com/new.asp?article=7427)
greg donovan
01-15-2009, 09:16 AM
JERICHO headed to the big screen? (http://ifmagazine.com/new.asp?article=7427)
the fact that you dont need to have seen the series to enjoy the movie gives me hope and doubt at the same time.
hope that it will be accessable and doubt because they will have to use valuable screen time to get the audience up to speed.
Lab-Rat
01-15-2009, 09:30 AM
JERICHO headed to the big screen? (http://ifmagazine.com/new.asp?article=7427)
well...I'll be damned. I'm there if it ever gets made!
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