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Tattoo-x
03-19-2008, 05:13 AM
Red Wolf MB sketch looks freakin fantastic. Although, I think it may need changed. Just the base though.

Correct me if I'm wrong. The base looks to me like a totem poll. And totem polls are located on the Northwest Coast of America. Red Wolf is Cheyenne. Not from the Northwest Coast.

What do you think?



http://i29.tinypic.com/15nr6lu.jpg
cPol
03-19-2008, 05:38 AM
I think the segment of the Bowen audience that would A) know that and B) be so bothered by it that it would keep them from buying is very, very small. The totem pole is evocative of Native American culture and conveys the proper tone for the piece.
sambofred
03-19-2008, 06:36 AM
I can appreciate your wanting to be PC on this matter. However, I agree w. Iron Fist. The Totem Pole really does it for me. It sets the bust apart from all of the rest. The base can be just as important as the sculpt resting on top of it :)
Jesse321
03-19-2008, 06:44 AM
The one thing that I would like for Randy to consider changing on this piece is the angle of the head ... the downward facing head makes for limited display opportunities, especially when you consider that most of the face is already covered by the wolf cowl.
boobhound
03-19-2008, 07:29 AM
I want the totem pole!!!
Leave it as is!!!
agent of weapon x
03-19-2008, 08:05 AM
Interesting.
SD Rum
03-19-2008, 08:41 AM
The one thing that I would like for Randy to consider changing on this piece is the angle of the head ... the downward facing head makes for limited display opportunities, especially when you consider that most of the face is already covered by the wolf cowl.

I agree!!
Uncle Jake
03-19-2008, 11:11 AM
Actually, I would prefer a Lobo wolf base, much like the Ka-Zar/Zabu MB.
dEnny!
03-19-2008, 11:15 AM
Red Wolf MB sketch looks freakin fantastic. Although, I think it may need changed. Just the base though.

Correct me if I'm wrong. The base looks to me like a totem poll. And totem polls are located on the Northwest Coast of America. Red Wolf is Cheyenne. Not from the Northwest Coast.

What do you think?

I think I didn't know that, man I suck.

Bowen IS from the Northwest Coast though, maybe that's why he gave it some totem pole love.
moon_knight1971
03-19-2008, 11:22 PM
I'm just happy to see this guy getting made! AMERICAN EAGLE Randy!
Merrik
03-19-2008, 11:25 PM
The one thing that I would like for Randy to consider changing on this piece is the angle of the head ... the downward facing head makes for limited display opportunities, especially when you consider that most of the face is already covered by the wolf cowl.


Amen!

The sketch looks AMAZING (and I absolutely love love LOVE the character!), but the last thing I want is another Attuma bust, where if it's not displayed on the top shelf, you get a lovely shot of the top of his head.
ca35
03-20-2008, 11:24 AM
The Red Wolf MB looks great the way it is !
ShellHead
03-22-2008, 12:49 PM
Good Point and I have to agree the base shouldn't have a character conflict but compliment.

Maybe this is a way to get Lobo into the sculpt by having him "carved" into the base or use a pattern or incorporate some buffalo element or a combo design
Grumpy
03-22-2008, 05:54 PM
You know, I hadn't thougt about the totem poll base but I did notice it when I first saw the picture posted. I've always been for historical accuracy when it comes to either a bust or statue and have to agree with Tattoo-X, the totem pole is unique to the native Indians from the upper northwest (British Columbia, Canada) and has absolutely nothing to do with the Cheyenne. Using a totem pole base for a Cheyenne Indian would be like using a "Lone Star" base under a character from New York. I'm no expert on the Cheyenne, but there must be some sort of base that would be more historically accurate.

I will withdraw my opinion and objection if anyone here can post a picture of Red Wolf anywhere near a totem pole.
Tony Coca
03-22-2008, 05:57 PM
You know, I hadn't thougt about the totem poll base but I did notice it when I first saw the picture posted. I've always been for historical accuracy when it comes to either a bust or statue and have to agree with Tattoo-X, the totem pole is unique to the native Indians from the upper northwest (British Columbia, Canada) and has absolutely nothing to do with the Cheyenne. Using a totem pole base for a Cheyenne Indian would be like using a "Lone Star" base under a character from New York. I'm no expert on the Cheyenne, but there must be some sort of base that would be more historically accurate.

I will withdraw my opinion and objection if anyone here can post a picture of Red Wolf anywhere near a totem pole.

Yeah I agree.It would be like the New Cap having the Puerto Rican flag on his chest.Oh wait he does.LOL.
Grumpy
03-22-2008, 06:03 PM
Yeah I agree.It would be like the New Cap having the Puerto Rican flag on his chest.Oh wait he does.LOL.

You got me there, buddy. What the heck are you talking about?

WooHoo 100th post! Dang, I just noticed you beat me by 15!
boobhound
03-22-2008, 06:05 PM
Leave as is, looks great!!!
Grumpy
03-22-2008, 06:08 PM
Leave as is, looks great!!!

Yeah, that would be like a bust of the Swamp Fox wrapped up in a British flag:lol:
Tony Coca
03-22-2008, 06:14 PM
You got me there, buddy. What the heck are you talking about?

WooHoo 100th post! Dang, I just noticed you beat me by 15!

Ill show you.

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1442/43383-captain-america_400.jpg

http://www.allstates-flag.com/images/full-size/flags/state/puerto_rico.gif
Grumpy
03-22-2008, 06:18 PM
. . . . . . . . . . . . ! I don't know what to type. I have pretty much given up reading comics (too busy) and had not seen this before.
Tony Coca
03-22-2008, 06:24 PM
. . . . . . . . . . . . ! I don't know what to type. I have pretty much given up reading comics (too busy) and had not seen this before.

He's Captain Puerto Rico.:lol:
daveyyojimbo
03-22-2008, 06:57 PM
Ill show you.

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1442/43383-captain-america_400.jpg

http://www.allstates-flag.com/images/full-size/flags/state/puerto_rico.gif

That's hilarious! You'd think someone at marvel would've caught that.
Tony Coca
03-22-2008, 07:00 PM
That's hilarious! You'd think someone at marvel would've caught that.

Well you know Joe Q is Hispanic.LOL.
daveyyojimbo
03-22-2008, 07:06 PM
Well you know Joe Q is Hispanic.LOL.

lol
agent of weapon x
03-22-2008, 07:10 PM
Ill show you.

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1442/43383-captain-america_400.jpg

http://www.allstates-flag.com/images/full-size/flags/state/puerto_rico.gif

OMG, you're right. That's crazy. :lol:
boobhound
03-22-2008, 07:10 PM
Yeah, that would be like a bust of the Swamp Fox wrapped up in a British flag:lol:

I do get where yer comin from, but come on, the bust looks great as a concept drawing an the totem pole is a fantastic base idea.
For those that are a fan of Red Wolf, they should just be happy they are getting a mini bust of him in the first place, imo. I will buy it only IF the totem pole stays.
Grumpy
03-22-2008, 09:31 PM
Hey, I'll probably buy it too it's just that it is not historically accurate. I hope I'm not offending any Chyenne by saying this but wouldn't a war drum base have been just as interesting? Who's the native character who is/was part of Alpha Flight? He would have looked great on the totem base.