Wacom's new 12" Cintiq

[Evan Wiener]

I didn't know this thing came out. I haven't had a lot of time to mess around with my 4x6 Intuos tablet with Adobe's CS3, so something like this is not a justifiable expense for me. But wow, look how cool it is for those of you who wanted a Cintiq but can't afford the 21" $2000 model.

Here's a 12" model for $999. http://www.wacom.com/cintiq/12WX.cfm

http://www.wacom.com/lightbox/images/Cintiq12WX_3.jpg

[Supajoe]

i bought one of these for christmas and i luuurrrrvvvve it. really sped me up

[antithesis]

this is awesome - thanks for posting this :-)

[Alex(sadly)Maleev]

Wife has it. It's great!

[Pat Loika]

...saving for it!

[Hollingsworth]

I bought 2 in December. 1 for me, 1 for the girlfriend. Love it!

The 21 inch is not $2000. It's $2500. The 20 inch is $2000.

[JHickman]

I bought 2 in December. 1 for me, 1 for the girlfriend. Love it!

The 21 inch is not $2000. It's $2500. The 20 inch is $2000.

Is there any pen lag at all?

[Hollingsworth]

Is there any pen lag at all?

Not if you draw a normal speed stroke. If you really quickly drag across it, then yes.

I love it. I'm painting much more now. Not using "cut" colors anymore. Iron Fist #12 was the first issue with it, then Daredevil 104, then Angel: Revelations #3. Working on an Iron Fist Special now with it. It's really great.

The ONLY thing that's kind of offputting is that in some areas, the cursor is not directly under the pen tip. This is because of some minor thickness to the screen itself. They have a calibration for this, but it's not totally perfect.

For folks thinking about it, I recommend it. But if you have the chance to try it, do. In LA, Mac Hollywood has them set up. You can call Wacom and ask them where you can go to see one.

[Evan Wiener]

Not if you draw a normal speed stroke. If you really quickly drag across it, then yes.

I love it. I'm painting much more now. Not using "cut" colors anymore. Iron Fist #12 was the first issue with it, then Daredevil 104, then Angel: Revelations #3. Working on an Iron Fist Special now with it. It's really great.

The ONLY thing that's kind of offputting is that in some areas, the cursor is not directly under the pen tip. This is because of some minor thickness to the screen itself. They have a calibration for this, but it's not totally perfect.

For folks thinking about it, I recommend it. But if you have the chance to try it, do. In LA, Mac Hollywood has them set up. You can call Wacom and ask them where you can go to see one.

Thanks Matt. I should find out where they have display models in my area that you can try. This is significantly more convenient and less expensive than the larger models. Is it better than getting a Tablet PC with Photoshop installed? I'm sure this is cheaper, especially if you already have a PC/Mac with everything you need.

For those of you that use Wacom tablets:
I'm still getting used to my Intuos 4x6 and need to find free time to practice with it. I just bought a new desk that gives me more surface room to place this on the desktop instead of a dinky keyboard tray.

I also find the 4x6 model requires more wrist work to draw, and doesn't work well if you draw with your whole arm movements, which often leads to looser line work. It's great for tight drawing, I think, which is why I am never thrilled with my drawings.

I haven't tried the different nibs they give you yet. Do they make a big difference?

[Hollingsworth]

Thanks Matt. I should find out where they have display models in my area that you can try. This is significantly more convenient and less expensive than the larger models. Is it better than getting a Tablet PC with Photoshop installed? I'm sure this is cheaper, especially if you already have a PC/Mac with everything you need.

For those of you that use Wacom tablets:
I'm still getting used to my Intuos 4x6 and need to find free time to practice with it. I just bought a new desk that gives me more surface room to place this on the desktop instead of a dinky keyboard tray.

I also find the 4x6 model requires more wrist work to draw, and doesn't work well if you draw with your whole arm movements, which often leads to looser line work. It's great for tight drawing, I think, which is why I am never thrilled with my drawings.

I haven't tried the different nibs they give you yet. Do they make a big difference?

Good tablet PCs aren't cheap. I went with this because I don't have to upgrade an entire computer to get it. If you want to spend THAT much you could even get the 20 inch at $2000.

[Evan Wiener]

Good tablet PCs aren't cheap. I went with this because I don't have to upgrade an entire computer to get it. If you want to spend THAT much you could even get the 20 inch at $2000.

Hah, true.

I hear that there is a weird power box/input block that can be a bit of an eyesore mess with with. True?

[Hollingsworth]

Hah, true.

I hear that there is a weird power box/input block that can be a bit of an eyesore mess with with. True?

It's got a powerbox, yes. It's not that huge, though. AND, it has a nice, very long wire, so you could sit over on the couch and work with it if you wanted.

The nice part, also, for folks overseas, is that this power converts the current. So, for instance, I live in Croatia and it's 230 volt electricity. I can use jsut a simple plug adapter and plug this into that and it doesn't fry the unit even though I bought it in the States, where it's way cheaper.

[TheKraken]

It's got a powerbox, yes. It's not that huge, though. AND, it has a nice, very long wire, so you could sit over on the couch and work with it if you wanted.

The nice part, also, for folks overseas, is that this power converts the current. So, for instance, I live in Croatia and it's 230 volt electricity. I can use jsut a simple plug adapter and plug this into that and it doesn't fry the unit even though I bought it in the States, where it's way cheaper.

This feels like a dumb question, but where does it plug into the computer? Does it plug in as a monitor or a USB device? The prospect of getting under my desk and unhooking it and plugging in a normal monitor when I'm not working isn't terribly appealing. Other than that minor annoyance, tho', I may well buy one of these very soon...

[Hollingsworth]

This feels like a dumb question, but where does it plug into the computer? Does it plug in as a monitor or a USB device? The prospect of getting under my desk and unhooking it and plugging in a normal monitor when I'm not working isn't terribly appealing. Other than that minor annoyance, tho', I may well buy one of these very soon...

It plugs into both USb and monitor slots. It IS a monitor. If you use dual monitors, or a laptop, you can use a toggle to have it go onto the secondary monitor. If you have only one monitor slot with a desktop, I'd recommend updating your card first and using dual monitor. I use a laptop and put all of my palettes on that for Photoshop. When I click the lower sideswitch button, the cursor goes over to the monitor for the laptop. I can then do something, add a layer or whatever, click the sideswitch again and I go back to the Cintiq. It's basically an LCD monitor that has Wacom tablet capabilities. It requires BOTH USB and either VGA or DV monitor slots.

[TheKraken]

It plugs into both USb and monitor slots. It IS a monitor. If you use dual monitors, or a laptop, you can use a toggle to have it go onto the secondary monitor. If you have only one monitor slot with a desktop, I'd recommend updating your card first and using dual monitor. I use a laptop and put all of my palettes on that for Photoshop. When I click the lower sideswitch button, the cursor goes over to the monitor for the laptop. I can then do something, add a layer or whatever, click the sideswitch again and I go back to the Cintiq. It's basically an LCD monitor that has Wacom tablet capabilities. It requires BOTH USB and either VGA or DV monitor slots.

Oh, I have two monitors. :) I guess making it the secondary monitor is an acceptable solution. ATI's software has pretty crappy options for the 2nd monitor, tho', so I never even considered that. Hmmmmm.

[Hollingsworth]

Oh, I have two monitors. :) I guess making it the secondary monitor is an acceptable solution. ATI's software has pretty crappy options for the 2nd monitor, tho', so I never even considered that. Hmmmmm.

I have some kind of ATI card for my laptop and have no problems. The color on the Cintiq is pretty nice too.

[TheKraken]

I have some kind of ATI card for my laptop and have no problems. The color on the Cintiq is pretty nice too.

I got a Radeon X1650 last year, and it performs really well, but the two displays share a single workspace, if that makes any sense. Like, on my Mac at work, the displays are 2 separate workspaces. Different desktop images, different color settings, different resolutions if you want. ATI's software just seems to continue my main monitor's settings onto my 2nd monitor, as if they were one big display. I can drag my pallets and my work to the other monitor (in Photoshop... Illustrator refuses to comprehend that there are 2 displays), but that's about it. Also, their "Catalyst Control Center" tends to crash a lot.

[Hollingsworth]

I got a Radeon X1650 last year, and it performs really well, but the two displays share a single workspace, if that makes any sense. Like, on my Mac at work, the displays are 2 separate workspaces. Different desktop images, different color settings, different resolutions if you want. ATI's software just seems to continue my main monitor's settings onto my 2nd monitor, as if they were one big display. I can drag my pallets and my work to the other monitor (in Photoshop... Illustrator refuses to comprehend that there are 2 displays), but that's about it. Also, their "Catalyst Control Center" tends to crash a lot.

Don't know much about it. Mine uses the same background, but resolution control is separate. The Cintiq installs something too that shows the Cintiq as the secondary monitor under "Cintiq". I have some sort of Radeon Xpress 200M. But fuck if I know anything more. I'm much more used to nVidia. But, I'm not doing 3D much anymore, so I don't care much about the card as long as it works. The card is much more important with 3D. It can cause serious troubles or benefit you hugely.

[JHickman]

Not if you draw a normal speed stroke. If you really quickly drag across it, then yes.

I love it. I'm painting much more now. Not using "cut" colors anymore. Iron Fist #12 was the first issue with it, then Daredevil 104, then Angel: Revelations #3. Working on an Iron Fist Special now with it. It's really great.

The ONLY thing that's kind of offputting is that in some areas, the cursor is not directly under the pen tip. This is because of some minor thickness to the screen itself. They have a calibration for this, but it's not totally perfect.

For folks thinking about it, I recommend it. But if you have the chance to try it, do. In LA, Mac Hollywood has them set up. You can call Wacom and ask them where you can go to see one.

Thanks, Matt. What I was looking for.

[Evan Wiener]

Not if you draw a normal speed stroke. If you really quickly drag across it, then yes.

I love it. I'm painting much more now. Not using "cut" colors anymore. Iron Fist #12 was the first issue with it, then Daredevil 104, then Angel: Revelations #3. Working on an Iron Fist Special now with it. It's really great.


So do you not make selections and flat areas over line art anymore? You just paint into the pencils or inked line art? That's awesome.

[Hollingsworth]

So do you not make selections and flat areas over line art anymore? You just paint into the pencils or inked line art? That's awesome.

Naw, that's not really what I mean. I still have a flatter. The flatter fills in completely random colors to give me my selections. I then recolor the page and paint it.

What I meant was, I not longer use "cut" color. That's when you make a selection, paint in it and use this selection shape to create your modeling. Think Steve Oliff on Spawn. Many people do it that way. Now, I still have those overall selections, but I don't use selections for modeling, I just paint freehand. Make sense at all?

[Run-BMC]

Hi Matt -

What kind of monitor do you use?

[Hollingsworth]

Hi Matt -

What kind of monitor do you use?

Hey Mike,

I just use the built in monitor for my HP Pavilion. I don't judge color on it, though. It's far too bright. I calibrated the Cintiq for that using printed comics that I colored, then opened the tiff and adjusted it to match. Not perfect, as Marvel printing shifts issue to issue, but it's a decent ballpark.

I used to use a secondary monitor, but just those two now. I'll probably get a new computer in a year or so, get a desktop, then use a larger monitor.

You? You paint some of your own stuff, right?

[Unknown Kadath]

How exactly do these tablet things work? I'm looking at getting back into drawing and I am interested in this option. Maybe someone could post a link that covers the basics?

[Run-BMC]

Hey Mike,

I just use the built in monitor for my HP Pavilion. I don't judge color on it, though. It's far too bright. I calibrated the Cintiq for that using printed comics that I colored, then opened the tiff and adjusted it to match. Not perfect, as Marvel printing shifts issue to issue, but it's a decent ballpark.

I used to use a secondary monitor, but just those two now. I'll probably get a new computer in a year or so, get a desktop, then use a larger monitor.

You? You paint some of your own stuff, right?

Oh hell no... I'm slowly getting into it though. I'm trying out using my brand new wacom, but really like how intuitive the Cintiq looks. I want to try doing some paintings as well, or at least tonal work beyond just pencil shading or ink crosshatching. Thanks for the input on that.

Sonia (who is the color artist on everything I do professionally) is looking for a new monitor, and apparently it's not as easy as just going to Best Buy... she's really paranoid about, as you said, Marvel's books changing issue to issue, and she really likes what she's working with now. Unfortunately, they've discontinued her particular model.

[Hollingsworth]

How exactly do these tablet things work? I'm looking at getting back into drawing and I am interested in this option. Maybe someone could post a link that covers the basics?

Go to the Wacom website. Google them.


Oh hell no... I'm slowly getting into it though. I'm trying out using my brand new wacom, but really like how intuitive the Cintiq looks. I want to try doing some paintings as well, or at least tonal work beyond just pencil shading or ink crosshatching. Thanks for the input on that.

Sonia (who is the color artist on everything I do professionally) is looking for a new monitor, and apparently it's not as easy as just going to Best Buy... she's really paranoid about, as you said, Marvel's books changing issue to issue, and she really likes what she's working with now. Unfortunately, they've discontinued her particular model.

For Marvel, it's good to get a nice ballpark but to expect some hue shift. I also don't use ANY k tones as they often print too dark.

Sorry I can't help more on her monitor worries. Tell her she should go to GutterZombie and post something there to ask about this. There are some highly technical guys over there. It's a colorists site.

[bobinskil]

Do you guys know of any places you can try tablets out in-store?

[Mitchel]

Good tablet PCs aren't cheap. I went with this because I don't have to upgrade an entire computer to get it. If you want to spend THAT much you could even get the 20 inch at $2000.

It seems nice but $2000 is too much. A quad core PC loaded with 4gigs of ram and a pair of raid 400 gig hard drives costs much less than that. I know its not a tablet but these things shouldn't cost this much.

[Hollingsworth]

It seems nice but $2000 is too much. A quad core PC loaded with 4gigs of ram and a pair of raid 400 gig hard drives costs much less than that. I know its not a tablet but these things shouldn't cost this much.

I wish they were cheaper too. But they're not. And, I doubt they'll become cheaper either.

[Evan Wiener]

How exactly do these tablet things work? I'm looking at getting back into drawing and I am interested in this option. Maybe someone could post a link that covers the basics?

I've played around with my Intuos 3, but I'm struggling with getting pen pressure to work as I'd expect. I played around with Photoshop for over an hour last night, seeing what settings I can play with and how I can vary the size of the brush, set the number of pixels that can be varied, etc.

Does anyone use it for sketching too, or do most Wacom users draw pencil sketches, scan and ink/color them digitally? Do you zoom in real tight to clean up stray lines?

I'm really trying to get back into the practice of drawing, and making better decisions on line choice, etc. I was never good at that, and often just leave all work I do at sketch level. I think using the tablet would help with my not-so-steady hand when it comes to inking thanks to a simple UNDO. :)

[Hollingsworth]

Just a note for anyone who has troubles with size jitter in P Shop:

To get a nice thick to thin line with a Wacom, do NOT turn up the size jitter. It makes your line all fucked up. Leave size jitter at 0%, but turn ON "pen pressure" for "control".

Same thing with opacity. Turn opacity jitter to 0% and control to Pen Pressure if you want to have that work properly. It's kind of counter intuitive but that's how it works.

[Evan Wiener]

I don't think I messed with opacity control for the brushes. So you can control size and opacity on the same brush with pen pressure? Maybe that would help me.

[Hollingsworth]

I don't think I messed with opacity control for the brushes. So you can control size and opacity on the same brush with pen pressure? Maybe that would help me.

Yes you can. You can also control rotation. You can have the rotation go with the direction you go in or whatever. You should try every setting out and see what each does. Don't forget the Help documents also. They're full of information.

[Evan Wiener]

Yes you can. You can also control rotation. You can have the rotation go with the direction you go in or whatever. You should try every setting out and see what each does. Don't forget the Help documents also. They're full of information.

Help with Wacom or Photoshop Help?

[DaveCummings]

I want one of the more expensive versions. Especially since artists like Joe Quesada have totally switched to that. I want to adapt to the new technology.

But first, I need a new computer. I may abuse my student discount and get a Mac.

~Dave

[Unknown Kadath]

Do you guys know of any places you can try tablets out in-store?

That's a very good question. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer - but I'd be interested in hearing it if anyone does. Also, what's the learning curve on one of these? If you're good with a pencil, are you automatically good with a tablet? The main reason I never got into computer art was because a mouse is not an artists tool.

[Supajoe]

I've played around with my Intuos 3, but I'm struggling with getting pen pressure to work as I'd expect. I played around with Photoshop for over an hour last night, seeing what settings I can play with and how I can vary the size of the brush, set the number of pixels that can be varied, etc.

Does anyone use it for sketching too, or do most Wacom users draw pencil sketches, scan and ink/color them digitally? Do you zoom in real tight to clean up stray lines?

I'm really trying to get back into the practice of drawing, and making better decisions on line choice, etc. I was never good at that, and often just leave all work I do at sketch level. I think using the tablet would help with my not-so-steady hand when it comes to inking thanks to a simple UNDO. :)

i'm currently drawing the GN i'm doing entirely on it. i drew my last mini-series with an intuos 2, and drawing with the cintiq feels so much better. it's easier to vary the line weights and to just get right in there and push and manipulate the lineart.

[NATE!]

I still have my little Graphire 2 from 8 years ago. Works just as well as the day I bought it.

[mario]

I still have my little Graphire 2 from 8 years ago. Works just as well as the day I bought it.

I know, but when you compare the Ggraphire with the Intuous it's day and night, man!

[NATE!]

I know, but when you compare the Ggraphire with the Intuous it's day and night, man!

No. You can have the newest, most expensive equipment in the world, but not even driving yourself into debt will help if you suck ass at whatever it is you're doing in the first place.

[Unknown Kadath]

So I've been researching these and think I'm sold on getting one of the Intuos models. Who here can tell me who has the best deals and/or warranties? Also, is it better to have a bigger tablet area? I am looking at getting this one: http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Intuos3-9X12-USB-Tablet/dp/B0003009AI (http://www.academicsuperstore.ca/market/marketdisp.html?PartNo=719772)

Oh yeah, I'm in Canada, so I'd be looking for a Canadian retailer.

[Hollingsworth]

You might try eBay.

I used that same exact one for a couple of years. They're great. The Cintiq is way better, naturally, but that Intuos 3 is great also.

[Run-BMC]

Hey Matt -

I have a quick question... how important is it to you to pages from a penciller in sequential order?

[greg donovan]

how do these compare to something like what i have?

i have a gateway convertable tablet PC w/ 14"widescreen display. it is "Penabled" by WACOM with a Pen.

http://content.gateway.com/www.gateway.com/media/products/large/e295c.jpg

[Hollingsworth]

Hey Matt -

I have a quick question... how important is it to you to pages from a penciller in sequential order?

Hahahahaha!

That's funny. I NEVER get pages in order. Ever.

Having a script is more important. I mean, I would PREFER to get them in order. But there's no way in hell that's gonna happen and it hasn't happened literally in years.

[Hollingsworth]

how do these compare to something like what i have?

i have a gateway convertable tablet PC w/ 14"widescreen display. it is "Penabled" by WACOM with a Pen.

http://content.gateway.com/www.gateway.com/media/products/large/e295c.jpg

No idea.

[greg donovan]

No idea.

here are the specs:

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7300 (2.00GHz, 800MHz, 4MB L2 Cache)
Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Tablet Edition
1024MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2-512MB modules)
120GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive
24x/10x/24x CD-RW / 8x DVD Combo Drive
Intel® GMA X3100 Graphics (with up to 384MB Shared Memory*)

what i am wondering is if i can do the same type of stuff on my machine that you guys are capable of doing on your Cintiqs.

the screen folds down and can i can draw directly onto the screen.

[Hollingsworth]

here are the specs:

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7300 (2.00GHz, 800MHz, 4MB L2 Cache)
Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Tablet Edition
1024MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2-512MB modules)
120GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive
24x/10x/24x CD-RW / 8x DVD Combo Drive
Intel® GMA X3100 Graphics (with up to 384MB Shared Memory*)

what i am wondering is if i can do the same type of stuff on my machine that you guys are capable of doing on your Cintiqs.

the screen folds down and can i can draw directly onto the screen.

Specs don't do my any good. I don't have a real idea because I don't know what your tablet is like. I messed with a tablet PC briefly in Birmingham at the comic show there late last year, and it was great. Basically the same kind of thing as a Cintiq. I don't see why not. But having never seen nor tried yours out, there's no way for me to tell.

I'd say you should double your RAM, though. Looks like a nice machine.

Thing is, also, to not get too trapped into thinking about machines. I've known a lot of people that have systems MUCH better than mine, costing 5 to 10 times as much. But they can't color for shit. Concentrate more on the art your doing. I'm sure a tablet PC will get you a very nice system to work on, though. Just don't become one of those computer obsessed people who fail to move forward artistically.

Make sense?

[greg donovan]

Specs don't do my any good. I don't have a real idea because I don't know what your tablet is like. I messed with a tablet PC briefly in Birmingham at the comic show there late last year, and it was great. Basically the same kind of thing as a Cintiq. I don't see why not. But having never seen nor tried yours out, there's no way for me to tell.

I'd say you should double your RAM, though. Looks like a nice machine.

Thing is, also, to not get too trapped into thinking about machines. I've known a lot of people that have systems MUCH better than mine, costing 5 to 10 times as much. But they can't color for shit. Concentrate more on the art your doing. I'm sure a tablet PC will get you a very nice system to work on, though. Just don't become one of those computer obsessed people who fail to move forward artistically.

Make sense?


makes perfect sense. thanks.

we are definately not tech obsessed. we got this for my wife when she was in school and will have it for several years i am sure. i also have to fight my kids for time on the computer to paint.

the funny thing about using the computer for art is that it has renewed my interest in painting with real paint and paper. and that has been a ton of fun with my kids.

i definately need to work on my basic skills A LOT.

[Alex(sadly)Maleev]

Thing is, also, to not get too trapped into thinking about machines. I've known a lot of people that have systems MUCH better than mine, costing 5 to 10 times as much. But they can't color for shit. Concentrate more on the art your doing. I'm sure a tablet PC will get you a very nice system to work on, though. Just don't become one of those computer obsessed people who fail to move forward artistically.

Make sense?

Are you talking about me?

[Hollingsworth]

Are you talking about me?

Hahaha! Yeah man, it's all about you.

Naw, I'm talking about some folks I know online who obsess about hardware. You knew how to draw BEFORE you got a computer. There's a difference. I know people who are all into the hardware and lose sight of actually producing art.g

[Unknown Kadath]

You might try eBay.

I used that same exact one for a couple of years. They're great. The Cintiq is way better, naturally, but that Intuos 3 is great also.

I did a comparison on the Wacom site and it seems the only advantage of the Cintiq is that the screen is built right in. Am I right in my thinking?

[Thomas Mauer]

That is my next electronics purchase!

[Thomas Mauer]

Thanks Matt. I should find out where they have display models in my area that you can try. This is significantly more convenient and less expensive than the larger models. Is it better than getting a Tablet PC with Photoshop installed? I'm sure this is cheaper, especially if you already have a PC/Mac with everything you need.

For those of you that use Wacom tablets:
I'm still getting used to my Intuos 4x6 and need to find free time to practice with it. I just bought a new desk that gives me more surface room to place this on the desktop instead of a dinky keyboard tray.

I also find the 4x6 model requires more wrist work to draw, and doesn't work well if you draw with your whole arm movements, which often leads to looser line work. It's great for tight drawing, I think, which is why I am never thrilled with my drawings.

I haven't tried the different nibs they give you yet. Do they make a big difference?

There's a company that can turn MacBooks into fully functional Cintiqs, though that also costs a pretty penny:

http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbook

[Ben]

One day when I have a real job that earns real money, I'll be all over that thing.

[Thomas Mauer]

Hahahahaha!

That's funny. I NEVER get pages in order. Ever.

Having a script is more important. I mean, I would PREFER to get them in order. But there's no way in hell that's gonna happen and it hasn't happened literally in years.

For real? All the projects I'm somewhat involved in have pencilers/inkers turn in their stuff in correct page order, though sometimes the colorists just send their shit to me according to their fancy. I fucking hate lettering pages out of sequence because I only read the script while working and want to see the damn story unfold properly! :)

[Supajoe]

Hahahahaha!

That's funny. I NEVER get pages in order. Ever.

Having a script is more important. I mean, I would PREFER to get them in order. But there's no way in hell that's gonna happen and it hasn't happened literally in years.

that's so weird. i always turn in my pages in order. but every colorist i've ever worked with sends pages back in random order.

[Unknown Kadath]

So I just ordered an Intuos 3. Can't wait to try it out.

[Black Roman]

Why did I instantly think of a vibrator when I read the thread title? :?

[Hollingsworth]

For real? All the projects I'm somewhat involved in have pencilers/inkers turn in their stuff in correct page order, though sometimes the colorists just send their shit to me according to their fancy. I fucking hate lettering pages out of sequence because I only read the script while working and want to see the damn story unfold properly! :)


that's so weird. i always turn in my pages in order. but every colorist i've ever worked with sends pages back in random order.

Yes, for real. I never get pages in order.

[nick maynard]

Yes, for real. I never get pages in order.

im curious why not. is it something as simple as the artist skipping around to alleviate boredom, or is there a different reason?

in any case, i love tech talk and this thread is delivering. thanks matt.

[Thomas Mauer]

Yes, for real. I never get pages in order.

Hear that, Joe? We need to change that. :)

[mario]

Yes, for real. I never get pages in order.

me too!
I'm doing Star TRek now and I got pages 1-12, then 19-20, now 17-18 and just now 14-16

[mario]

im curious why not. is it something as simple as the artist skipping around to alleviate boredom, or is there a different reason?

sometimes it's because some pages can get done quicker and you want to keep your schedule.
Sometimes it's because it's late, sometimes it's because the editor forgot to send pages, you never can know for sure.