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stevapalooza
05-20-2005, 08:14 PM
In the original trilogy Yoda only used the backwards-talking thing now and then to emphasize something. Most of his lines were delivered normally. But in the new trilogy every freakin sentence out of his mouth is backwards. "With the wookies good relations I have"?! WTF?! I know you can talk normally, I've heard it! So knock it off you green douchebag, you're not fooling anyone!
Jerome Gibbons
05-20-2005, 08:17 PM
[Politics]?

And yeah, I noticed that too.
Len Ford
05-20-2005, 08:23 PM
Yoda wasn't retarded when he was younger... during Jedi college he joined a frat and became an alcoholic. He spends episodes I-III in an alcoholic stupor that he finally is able to break once he is forced into exile and the booze that he craves is no longer available... In later episodes, he sometimes reverts to speaking backwards due to the excessive loss of brain cells from years of alcohol abuse... duh. :rolleyes:
Fizz
05-20-2005, 08:26 PM
yeah, the backwards talking was definitely overdone

"around the survivors a perimeter create"

"not if anything to say about it I have"

:roll:
stevapalooza
05-20-2005, 08:28 PM
Did anyone else laugh out loud when Darth vader yelled "Nooooo!"? I was expecting him to yell "Mendozaaa!" next.
Dood Lee
05-20-2005, 08:45 PM
Did anyone else laugh out loud when Darth vader yelled "Nooooo!"? I was expecting him to yell "Mendozaaa!" next.

I expected to have a sense of awe when Anakin finally emerged in his Darth Vader suit. Instead, he turned into a damn pussy.
BenitoCereno
05-20-2005, 09:01 PM
I want someone to take that scene of Vader shouting "NOOOOO" like a tool and overdub Jake Lloyd shouting "YIPEE" from Episode 1.

I also like his total Frankenstein maneuver busting off the operating table.
stevapalooza
05-20-2005, 09:03 PM
I want someone to take that scene of Vader shouting "NOOOOO" like a tool and overdub Jake Lloyd shouting "YIPEE" from Episode 1.



lol! If someone did that it would make my year.
Jamie Howdeshell
05-20-2005, 09:20 PM
I expected to have a sense of awe when Anakin finally emerged in his Darth Vader suit. Instead, he turned into a damn pussy.

yeah. anybody that screams like that after finding out your beloved wife and her unborn child (who you had just sacrificed everything for) were both dead by your own hands is such a pussy.

:?
Natty P
05-20-2005, 09:24 PM
yeah. anybody that screams like that after finding out your beloved wife and her unborn child (who you had just sacrificed everything for) were both dead by your own hands is such a pussy.

:?


I liked the "NOOO" but hated the Frankenstein thing.
Jamie Howdeshell
05-20-2005, 09:28 PM
I liked the "NOOO" but hated the Frankenstein thing.

that was a tad goofy. but the crushing of almost everything in the room balanced that out fairly well, i thought.
Mike Haseloff
05-20-2005, 09:32 PM
Jesus, until now I haven't known anything about Vader in episode III.
Sounds like it's pretty fucking cool!
Natty P
05-20-2005, 09:34 PM
that was a tad goofy. but the crushing of almost everything in the room balanced that out fairly well, i thought.


That's microcosmic of why I ultimately was really disappointed of the film. Such and such scene scene was great until so and so said/did that.


Also, the Iguana thing was dumb looking (Why not take a fucking cool car???) and Grevious was useless.


Curiously, I think (Mace Windu's tour de farce notwithstanding) it was the best acted of all six films.
Mike Haseloff
05-20-2005, 09:38 PM
Also, the Iguana thing was dumb looking (Why not take a fucking cool car???) and Grevious was useless.


Curiously, I think (Mace Windu's tour de farce notwithstanding) it was the best acted of all six films.I kinda figured Greivous would carry on the tradition of Darth Maul. The much hyped character, of little conseqeuence.

I suppose it's a good diversionary tactic, but still disappointing. :?

This is probably unfair, but I wasn't terribly impressed with anything Jackson did in Episode II.

The force - CAN YOU USE IT?!
stevapalooza
05-20-2005, 10:06 PM
What the heck was Grievous anyway? He seemed to be some sort of cyborg. Parts of him looked mechanical and yet he seemed to have skin underneath and he coughed a lot. I don't think droids cough.
MK2000
05-20-2005, 10:06 PM
Did anyone else laugh out loud when Darth vader yelled "Nooooo!"?

This sounds like that Energizer commercial they had many many many years ago, where Vader tried to kill the Energizer Bunny and finds out his lightsaber used inferior batteries.
joeAR
05-20-2005, 10:08 PM
Well Yoda was insane In Empire(being in exile for 20 years will do that to a person)
Natty P
05-20-2005, 10:09 PM
Well Yoda was insane In Empire(being in exile for 20 years will do that to a person)


How was he insane?
Natty P
05-20-2005, 10:10 PM
What the heck was Grievous anyway? He seemed to be some sort of cyborg. Parts of him looked mechanical and yet he seemed to have skin underneath and he coughed a lot. I don't think droids cough.



He's a cyborg. Watch Clone Wars Vol.2 to learn why he coughs.
Jamie Howdeshell
05-20-2005, 10:11 PM
What the heck was Grievous anyway? He seemed to be some sort of cyborg. Parts of him looked mechanical and yet he seemed to have skin underneath and he coughed a lot. I don't think droids cough.

he's a cyborg who got fucked up by mace in the clone war cartoons which took place right before the movie.

hey steve... maybe you should put a spoiler tag on the thread title?
joeAR
05-20-2005, 10:11 PM
How was he insane?


Well he acted like he was nuts when luke first got there. Or he acted like a 6 year old spastic child, I haven't made up my mind on that one yet
Jamie Howdeshell
05-20-2005, 10:13 PM
Well he acted like he was nuts when luke first got there. Or he acted like a 6 year old spastic child, I haven't made up my mind on that one yet

i think yoda just has a fucked up sense of humor.

wouldn't you start fucking with a whiny little twerp like luke?

:lol:
Flonk
05-20-2005, 10:16 PM
I kinda figured Greivous would carry on the tradition of Darth Maul. The much hyped character, of little conseqeuence.




I call him the Bobba Fett of Episode III
Natty P
05-20-2005, 10:19 PM
Well he acted like he was nuts when luke first got there. Or he acted like a 6 year old spastic child, I haven't made up my mind on that one yet


He did that to test Luke's patience. I thought that was pretty de rigeur Star Wars knowledge.
UltimateQuintessa
05-20-2005, 10:20 PM
yeah. anybody that screams like that after finding out your beloved wife and her unborn child (who you had just sacrificed everything for) were both dead by your own hands is such a pussy.

:?

You took the words right out of my mouth.
joeAR
05-20-2005, 10:21 PM
He did that to test Luke's patience. I thought that was pretty de rigeur Star Wars knowledge.


If you read what I posted again I said when Luke first got there, I was making a joke about him being insane.
Flonk
05-20-2005, 10:22 PM
You took the words right out of my mouth.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Mike Haseloff
05-20-2005, 10:34 PM
I call him the Bobba Fett of Episode IIIInteresting!

I didn't realise he was in Clone Wars.
Flonk
05-20-2005, 10:42 PM
Interesting!

I didn't realise he was in Clone Wars.


Bobba Fett, Darth Maul, General Grevious, and to a lesser extent Count Dooku are all one note villians who are over hyped, show up for a movie or two and get killed.


I fucking hate Bobba Fett.
stevapalooza
05-20-2005, 10:44 PM
he's a cyborg who got fucked up by mace in the clone war cartoons which took place right before the movie.

hey steve... maybe you should put a spoiler tag on the thread title?

Good point. But how do I edit the thread title?
Mike Haseloff
05-20-2005, 10:47 PM
Bobba Fett, Darth Maul, General Grevious, and to a lesser extent Count Dooku are all one note villians who are over hyped, show up for a movie or two and get killed.


I fucking hate Bobba Fett.Boba Fett was never the center of a marketing campaign, nor was Dooku.

Darth Maul was on EVERYTHING episode one, only to find him a character who appears for maybe twenty minutes cumulatively in the movie. He did very little of consequence...
Flonk
05-20-2005, 10:48 PM
Boba Fett was never the center of a marketing campaign, nor was Dooku.

Darth Maul was on EVERYTHING episode one, only to find him a character who appears for maybe twenty minutes cumulatively in the movie. He did very little of consequence...


Sort of like Vader in Episode III :p
UltimateQuintessa
05-20-2005, 10:48 PM
Boba Fett was never the center of a marketing campaign, nor was Dooku.

Darth Maul was on EVERYTHING episode one, only to find him a character who appears for maybe twenty minutes cumulatively in the movie. He did very little of consequence...


Yeah he only killed fuckin Qui-Gon Jinn! Which lead to bigger things in Episode III.
Jamie Howdeshell
05-20-2005, 10:48 PM
Good point. But how do I edit the thread title?

if you hit the edit button on your original post you should be able to edit the title up at the very top of the edit screen.
Mike Haseloff
05-20-2005, 10:51 PM
Yeah he only killed fuckin Qui-Gon Jinn! Which lead to bigger things in Episode III.My point is, as a character, Darth Maul was a monumental let down.
Marketing led some of us to believe that Darth Maul was to be the lynch pin of the whole freaking movie. :roll:

Boba Fett performed far above his background character origins.
Count Dooku served his purpose.
Darth Vader already got his dues.

Darth Maul is a lousy, no good, stinkin' bum!
Jamie Howdeshell
05-20-2005, 10:53 PM
My point is, as a character, Darth Maul was a monumental let down.
Marketing led some of us to believe that Darth Maul was to be the lynch pin of the whole freaking movie. :roll:

Boba Fett performed far above his background character origins.
Count Dooku served his purpose.
Darth Vader already got his dues.

Darth Maul is a lousy, no good, stinkin' bum!

i thought maul was pretty important. he killed a very powerful jedi. and i imagine he was obiwan's first real test.
Mike Haseloff
05-20-2005, 10:55 PM
i thought maul was pretty important. he killed a very powerful jedi. and i imagine he was obiwan's first real test.My point is, as a character, Darth Maul was a monumental let down.
Marketing led some of us to believe that Darth Maul was to be the lynch pin of the whole freaking movie. :roll:
Flonk
05-20-2005, 10:56 PM
Boba Fett performed far above his background character origins.


Was this before or after he got killed by the blind guy?
UltimateQuintessa
05-20-2005, 10:56 PM
i thought maul was pretty important. he killed a very powerful jedi. and i imagine he was obiwan's first real test.


And his character introduce the cool looking double bladed lightsaber.
I just wish Lucas found a way to put inthe lightsaber whip. That would have been cool to see.
stevapalooza
05-20-2005, 11:14 PM
Was this before or after he got killed by the blind guy?


lol. Don't remind me. Dumbest death ever.
UltimateQuintessa
05-20-2005, 11:20 PM
lol. Don't remind me. Dumbest death ever.

Dumb? A guy that basically tracked down The Mileenum Falcon and screwed over Han Solo, Han gets his revenge in the most "innocent" way ever? To funny. At least Boba Fett didn't "shoot first."
Flonk
05-20-2005, 11:33 PM
lol. Don't remind me. Dumbest death ever.


As dumb as it was, it doesn't beat "She's lost the will to live"
stevapalooza
05-20-2005, 11:53 PM
Dumb? A guy that basically tracked down The Mileenum Falcon and screwed over Han Solo, Han gets his revenge in the most "innocent" way ever? To funny. At least Boba Fett didn't "shoot first."

Well..not yet.
Thomas Mauer
05-21-2005, 02:24 AM
And his character introduce the cool looking double bladed lightsaber.

The double-bladed lightsaber was actually created by Kevin J. Anderson for the Sith Lord Exar Kun in the Dark Horse comic series Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi.


I just wish Lucas found a way to put inthe lightsaber whip. That would have been cool to see.

Say what?
dEnny!
05-21-2005, 03:29 AM
He's a cyborg. Watch Clone Wars Vol.2 to learn why he coughs.

Or could you just pm me?
AAlgar
05-21-2005, 05:25 AM
The point of Grevious was to make a definitive "kill this guy and end the war" plot point. From a story standpoint, it made perfect sense to have a high-ranking general whose death would signal the defeat of the opposing side.

But... whether or not he looked cool or if the coughing was annoying... that's a whole different argument.
RegularJoe
05-21-2005, 05:29 PM
with grevious, the coughing is explained by watching clone wars. as for yoda, he was always talking backwards. just wasn't referring to himself as much in empire and jedi.
Jerome Gibbons
05-21-2005, 05:40 PM
Why the hell does Yoda talk backwards, anyway? Is it something his people usually do?
Thomas Mauer
05-21-2005, 05:53 PM
Why the hell does Yoda talk backwards, anyway? Is it something his people usually do?

I don't think the pink Yoda from episode one ever said anything, so it's kinda hard to say.

What's this species called, anyway?
Bill?
05-22-2005, 02:24 AM
i think yoda talking backwards is like when he walks around with that cane.
he doesnt really need to.
its just something he does to fuck with everyone.
Mr. E!
05-22-2005, 04:21 AM
I liked the "NOOO" but hated the Frankenstein thing.

I liked the Frankenstein thing, the lurching off the table made sense, what with the new legs and all, but I hated the "NOOO". I don't think it was even the "NOOO" so much as it was the fists raised in the patented gesture-of-ultimate-anguish. I thought he was going to rub ashes on his face...
Mister Mets
05-22-2005, 07:50 AM
Yoda's just remembered for the backwards speech. "Of sex with young boys Yoda know not. Old Yoda is. Resign he shall."


Did anyone else laugh out loud when Darth vader yelled "Nooooo!"? I was expecting him to yell "Mendozaaa!" next.

Apparantly when Prince Charles heard that Princess Diana was dead he screamed "Nooooo!" so loud people three floors away could hear it. So that reaction's borderline realistic.
Angel of Distraction
05-22-2005, 08:03 AM
I expected to have a sense of awe when Anakin finally emerged in his Darth Vader suit. Instead, he turned into a damn pussy.

He should have taken the entire room down, killing everyone in it but himself and the emperor. But that really was the only portion of the flick I thought could stand improvement.
En Sabah Poo
05-28-2005, 08:07 PM
I know this was posted a while ago, but I just watched Empire and Jedi again, and I have to say, you're wrong. The vast majority of Yoda's lines are spoken in the same form as in the prequels. Kirshner even talks about it at great length, how its his way of speaking. Go back and watch his scenes again.
NickT
05-28-2005, 08:31 PM
To those speaking of the nooooo (Careful, music and sound) - http://unitedstatesofno.ytmnd.com/ (http://unitedstatesofno.ytmnd.com/)



:D
Movie Maker
05-28-2005, 08:53 PM
To those speaking of the nooooo (Careful, music and sound) - http://unitedstatesofno.ytmnd.com/ (http://unitedstatesofno.ytmnd.com/)



:D

how do i save it as an mp3????
NickT
05-28-2005, 08:58 PM
how do i save it as an mp3????
I could just say to check View Source and it will be there somewhere. But to keep in the flavour of things...











Use the source Luke! :D
Movie Maker
05-28-2005, 08:59 PM
I could just say to check View Source and it will be there somewhere. But to keep in the flavour of things...











Use the source Luke! :D

thank you sir
Ben
05-28-2005, 09:06 PM
with grevious, the coughing is explained by watching clone wars. as for yoda, he was always talking backwards. just wasn't referring to himself as much in empire and jedi.
I hate when movies require you to read or view other media in order to fully understand what goes on in the movie. They pulled that shit with Blair Witch - "Oh, if you read the website and the comics and watch the SciFi special, then you'll see what a scaaaaary movie it is." Umm, no. I just want to watch the movie. If they aren't going to explain why he's coughing in E3, he shouldn't be fucking coughing.
NickT
05-28-2005, 09:08 PM
I hate when movies require you to read or view other media in order to fully understand what goes on in the movie. They pulled that shit with Blair Witch - "Oh, if you read the website and the comics and watch the SciFi special, then you'll see what a scaaaaary movie it is." Umm, no. I just want to watch the movie. If they aren't going to explain why he's coughing in E3, he shouldn't be fucking coughing.
Didnt watch the cartoon, didn't have a problem.



Seriously, do people need to be spoon fed information?
Ben
05-28-2005, 09:12 PM
Didnt watch the cartoon, didn't have a problem.



Seriously, do people need to be spoon fed information?
It's fucking distracting. And your spoon-fed comment makes no sense. It's not like they explained the coughing in some subtle, artistic way. It wasn't explained at all in the movie. And, if I'm watching the movie, I'd rather spend my thoughts on things that are important and not on things that have nothing to do with the movie, like the coughing. But when he coughs every 2 seconds, it's kind of hard to ignore it. It's not like the coughing ruined the movie for me. I just thought it was stupid and distracting and the "go watch the cartoons" excuse is gay.
NickT
05-28-2005, 09:18 PM
Why did the coughing NEED explaining? I say it doesn't. It was a character quirk, something different. Want extra info? Its over there in the cartoon. Need the info? Hell no.

To complain the coughing wasn't explained is to me like complaining ESB didnt tell us why Yoda talked funny, or why Vader needed to use the machine that takes his mask off. We dont need to know.
Flonk
05-28-2005, 09:21 PM
Why did the coughing NEED explaining? I say it doesn't. It was a character quirk, something different. Want extra info? Its over there in the cartoon. Need the info? Hell no.

To complain the coughing wasn't explained is to me like complaining ESB didnt tell us why Yoda talked funny, or why Vader needed to use the machine that takes his mask off. We dont need to know.

I thought it was odd that a robut was coughing. Later I found out he's got some human parts in him. Either way, a coughing robut is strange.
chris page
05-29-2005, 01:08 AM
while i must agree that a coughing robot is strange (none of my robots cough, and if they ever do i'll dismantle the fuckers), he did appear to have some organics early on . (particularly when they showed the closeups of his face) never saw the cartoon, i just assumed the coughing was due to some problem with the organics.