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JoeE
09-13-2007, 10:19 AM
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9777136-7.html

It would explain the changes in tone and rhetoric.


On the Friday before the sixth anniversary of 9/11, Osama bin Laden appeared in a new video, his first since prior to the U.S. presidential elections in 2004. In analyzing the video, Neal Krawetz of Hactor Factor, an expert on digital image forensics, said in his latest blogs that the video contained many visual and audio splices, and that all of the modifications were of very low quality.

Most striking is bin Laden's beard, which has been gray in recent images. For this video it is black. "As far as my tools can detect, there has been no image manipulation of the bin Laden portion of the image beyond contrast adjustment. His beard really does appear to be that color." The Washington Post has the full video here.

Krawetz says the inner frame of bin Laden was resaved at least twice, and not at the same time. The images show fine horizontal stripes on bin Laden and a background indicating these came from interlaced video sources. In contrast, the text elements, such as the As-Sahab logo, appear to be from non-interlaced sources.

The September 7 video shows bin Laden dressed in a white hat, white shirt and yellow sweater. Krawetz notes "this is the same clothing he wore in the 2004-10-29 video. In 2004 he had it unzipped, but in 2007 he zipped up the bottom half. Besides the clothing, it appears to be the same background, same lighting, and same desk. Even the camera angle is almost identical." Krawetz also notes that "if you overlay the 2007 video with the 2004 video, his face has not changed in three years--only his beard is darker and the contrast on the picture has been adjusted."

More important though are the edits. At roughly a minute and a half into the video there is a splice; bin Laden shifts from looking at the camera to looking down in less than 1/25th of a second. At 13:13 there is a second, less obvious splice. In all, Krawetz says there are at least six splices in the video. Of these, there are only two live bin Laden segments, the rest of the video composed of still images. The first live section opens the video and ends at 1:56. The second section begins at 12:29 and continues until 14:01. The two live sections appear to be from different recordings "because the desk is closer to the camera in the second section."

Then there are the audio edits. Krawetz says "the new audio has no accompanying 'live' video and consists of multiple audio recordings." References to current events are made only during the still frame sections and after splices within the audio track." And there are so many splices that I cannot help but wonder if someone spliced words and phrases together. I also cannot rule out a vocal imitator during the frozen-frame audio. The only way to prove that the audio is really bin Laden is to see him talking in the video," Krawetz says.

Another bin Laden video was released on September 11 and was much more straightforward. There was a still image of the black-bearded bin Laden (oddly, using a frame not used in the previous video), and then, as has been a tradition at al-Qaida , there was a long, unedited video of a statement read by Azzam Al Amriki, also known as American-born Adam Pearlman, who is currently being sought for treason and thought to be living in Pakistan. That doesn't mean the 9/11-released video wasn't doctored.

Click here and mouse over the image to see Krawetz's 75 percent error level analysis of one image. The white frame around Azzim reveals that his video was composited against the drawing of the World Trade Center being attacked. As Krawetz presented at this year's Black Hat conference in Las Vegas, al-Qaida has a history of doctoring background either to present propaganda or simply to disguise locations. In a separate interview, Krawetz talks with CNET News.com about some of the tools he used in his analysis.

Ryan F
09-13-2007, 10:25 AM
So, is this some sort of Weekend at Bernie's thing with Pearlman in the Andrew McCarthy role?

Jim T.
09-13-2007, 10:33 AM
So, is this some sort of Weekend at Bernie's thing with Pearlman in the Andrew McCarthy role?

That would be an awesome movie!! Terrorist hi-jinx!

Ryan F
09-13-2007, 10:40 AM
That would be an awesome movie!! Terrorist hi-jinx!

Azzam: Oh disgusting, his beard hair is falling out of his decaying corpse face!
Some Al Qaeda guy named Mohammed: Here, I made a fake beard out of dog hair.
Azzam: But it's not white!
Mohammed: Dude, we're in a cave in Pakistan. We'll have to make due with our dog hair prosthetic beard, the corpse of our beloved leader, and our 5 year old iMac with iMovie.

mike black
09-13-2007, 11:03 AM
This thread will be buried. Or made fun of and never discussed.

Khrutch
09-13-2007, 11:30 AM
Personally, I think bin Laden is dead, the remains of his body just haven't been found.

I was surprised Saddam was actually found given that he was hiding in a hole in the ground.

Ryan F
09-13-2007, 11:35 AM
This thread will be buried. Or made fun of and never discussed.

What do you want to discuss about it? It sounds vaguely possible that the tape was partially faked...or it may have just been heavily edited.

mike black
09-13-2007, 11:44 AM
What do you want to discuss about it? It sounds vaguely possible that the tape was partially faked...or it may have just been heavily edited.

Implications of such?

Ryan F
09-13-2007, 11:59 AM
Implications: bin Laden is alive but heavily edited (which seems most likely to me) - he could be sick and coughed a lot; maybe he just forgot his lines a lot.

Either their best video editing guys are away or dead or they had to use shittier equipment this time for some reason?

If he is dead... well, I agree with Bush and Fred Thompson that he doesn't have much operational command of Al Qaeda, so I don't think it means much from that standpoint. I think it would have sent a powerful message if we had hunted him down and brought him to justice for killing thousands of Americans. So I guess we wouldn't be able to do that anymore.

It's all sort of conjecture though. Weren't these tapes authenticated by the CIA?

DaveCummings
09-13-2007, 12:55 PM
Here's my far out there theory, Bin Laden never landed on the moon. He faked his moon landing.

But seriously these videos are him trying to reinstate his relevancy, but seems kinda pathetic with how fractured Al Qaeda is at the moment. Don't get me wrong, I still think they are capable of terrorist attacks, but I don't think they are capable of a 9/11 level attack.

That and with Bin Laden's tone in his most recent tape, with him reciting some topics that are often recited by more liberal people, I think he thinking that he's doing them a favor by making it sound like he's on thier side, but in reality it helps conservatives more.

Just saying.

Fusion
09-13-2007, 12:57 PM
First Elvis, then Tupac, then Biggie, now Bin Ladden! Is there no one people won't exploit?

RickLM
09-13-2007, 01:00 PM
They remixed it because the bass is always too loud and drowns out his vocals. He goes in and re-records the vocals and usually they smooth it out so you don't notice it. It's still a live show, just "enhanced" a little. I don't think anyone should doubt bin Laden's abilities as a live performer just because a piss-poor producer can't mix everything.

Greenville 90210
09-13-2007, 01:34 PM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/130907Dutch.htm

Greenville 90210
09-13-2007, 01:44 PM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/100907_double_agent.htm

I know I'm going to get flamed for posting Alex Jones stuff but its interesting stuff to think about.