College Football 07 - Anybody?

[Shane W]

NAYSAYER!!! SHHHH!!!

You're the one hiding from Corpse. You Garfield loving, Opus hating, something, something.

[Black Roman]

You're the one hiding from Corpse. You Garfield loving, Opus hating, something, something.

:blah:

[Black Roman]

One more TD could seal this thing. Or even just a field goal.

[S. Earl]

I just took the amtrak to SF, and the USC team was in one car. Goddamn, if they weren't the most stereotypical bunch of Frat boys I have ever had the displeasure of sharing space with.

[Black Roman]

I just took the amtrak to SF, and the USC team was in one car. Goddamn, if they weren't the most stereotypical bunch of Frat boys I have ever had the displeasure of sharing space with.

Figures.

[Shane W]

One more TD could seal this thing.

I'm "watching" on the internets, it's still 4th and 1 with 6 minutes left.

[Black Roman]

I'm using Gamecast at ESPN. So I'm "watching" too.

[Shane W]

I'm using Gamecast at ESPN. So I'm "watching" too.


We're like twins.

[Black Roman]

1st and 10 at the 50! :rock:

[RebootedCorpse]

The Big 10 is just brutal. Always eats its own.
BTW, the only time I root for OSU is the last game of the season.

[Shane W]

1st and 10 at the 50! :rock:

Crap, mine says 3rd and 10 from the 50.

[Black Roman]

Crap, mine says 3rd and 10 from the 50.

1st and 10 on the 38. With 2 minutes to go.

[Black Roman]

3rd and 2 on the 30.

[RebootedCorpse]

There will be a tear-soaked sweater-vest today.

[Black Roman]

:mrgreen:

[Black Roman]

FIRST DOWN ON THE 27!!!! :rock: It's so over!!!

[RebootedCorpse]

Oh yeah, end it with a fistfight!

[Black Roman]

:lol:

[Black Roman]

All LSU has to do is beat LA Tech and they're Number 1!!! :rock:


AND ITS OVER!!!! OHIO STATE HAS JUST LOST!!!!! Only TWO UNBEATENS LEFT (we'll see how long that lasts)

[Shane W]

Sweet. Mizzou still has an outside chance.

[Black Roman]

Sweet. Mizzou still has an outside chance.

I can live with an LSU-Missou Title Game.

[Shane W]

I can live with an LSU-Missou Title Game.

You have an obsession with Tigers.

[Black Roman]

You have an obsession with Tigers.

Hey yeah, Missouri's the tigers too. That'd be awesome!

[Colby]

I - L - L !!!

[Jew Mafia]

Sweet. Mizzou still has an outside chance.

:rock:

[RebootedCorpse]

I can live with an LSU-Missou Title Game.

Load up the still in the pick-em-up truck, maw, we's going tailgatein'! :cool:

[Taxman]

I can live with an LSU-Missou Title Game.How do you get that?

[Taxman]

Nice send off for the Orange there. :lol:

[Shane W]

How do you get that?

Mizzou winning out would have them beat the #4 and #5 ranked teams. Kansas isn't as good as advertised, and Mizzou would face OK in Kansas City which is pretty much MO territory. They would probably need some help, but there's still a chance.

[Frozen Sooner]

Mizzou winning out would have them beat the #4 and #5 ranked teams. Kansas isn't as good as advertised, and Mizzou would face OK in Kansas City which is pretty much MO territory. They would probably need some help, but there's still a chance.

The Big 12 title game is in the Alamodome this year.

Sorry 'bout your luck.

[bradical]

ou will blowout either mizzu or ku in the title game. course, osu is going to take bedlam, so it won't matter. just that kinda year. i'm a man!

[Frozen Sooner]

It's possible, but I wouldn't count on it with their defense. They'll be able to score on OU's D, but OSU's defense is papier-mache.

[bradical]

It's possible, but I wouldn't count on it with their defense. They'll be able to score on OU's D, but OSU's defense is papier-mache.

i've no doubt ou is better, it's just that kind of year. everybody is going to have 2 losses. and it's what we need to kick start the implosion of the bcs. i'm a man!

[Shane W]

ou will blowout either mizzu or ku in the title game. course, osu is going to take bedlam, so it won't matter. just that kinda year. i'm a man!

Mizzou was one missed tackle and one dropped INT from beating OK in Norman. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Mizzou *could* win out at a neutral site.

[Shane W]

The Big 12 title game is in the Alamodome this year.

Sorry 'bout your luck. Ah, yes, it's the KU game that's in Kansas City. My mistake.

[bradical]

Mizzou was one missed tackle and one dropped INT from beating OK in Norman. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Mizzou *could* win out at a neutral site.

it's certainly not, just don't see it. but wouldn't mind it.

[Taxman]

Mizzou winning out would have them beat the #4 and #5 ranked teams. Kansas isn't as good as advertised, and Mizzou would face OK in Kansas City which is pretty much MO territory. They would probably need some help, but there's still a chance.I doubt that would get them to #2. I loss LSU, Oregon, Arizona State, West Virginia or Ohio State would probably come out ahead of them in the BCS at the end of the season.

[bradical]

I doubt that would get them to #2. I loss LSU, Oregon, Arizona State, West Virginia or Ohio State would probably come out ahead of them in the BCS at the end of the season.

lsu loses in the sec title game and michigan beats the buckeyes. osu rises up and beats oregon, virgina takes down wvu, asu loses somewhere i hope, and the bcs blows up. all 2 loss heaven. with pancakes.

[Taxman]

lsu loses in the sec title game and michigan beats the buckeyes. osu rises up and beats oregon, virgina takes down wvu, asu loses somewhere i hope, and the bcs blows up. all 2 loss heaven. with pancakes.If everyone else had two losses, could Hawaii crack the top two? :lol:

[Jew Mafia]

Ah, yes, it's the KU game that's in Kansas City. My mistake.

Look for me in the stands, I'll wave to you. I can't wait for this game.

[bradical]

If everyone else had two losses, could Hawaii crack the top two? :lol:

rainbow warriors!

[Jew Mafia]

lsu loses in the sec title game and michigan beats the buckeyes. osu rises up and beats oregon, virgina takes down wvu, asu loses somewhere i hope, and the bcs blows up. all 2 loss heaven. with pancakes.

Whoever takes the Big 12 'ship will most likely only have 1 loss at most, unless OU, MU, or KU have some sort of collapse next weekend.

[bradical]

Whoever takes the Big 12 'ship will most likely only have 1 loss at most, unless OU, MU, or KU have some sort of collapse next weekend.

osu baets ou. outright. it will happen. then ou rips whichever faker shows up in the title game. i'm being mean on purpose.

[Shane W]

I doubt that would get them to #2. I loss LSU, Oregon, Arizona State, West Virginia or Ohio State would probably come out ahead of them in the BCS at the end of the season.

I don't know.. It looks like KU could be ranked #3 or or even #2 by the time the match comes up. The win against Illinois just got stronger with them taking out OSU.

They absolutely have win out and then *maybe* get one of the new top 2 to stumble.

But beating a #3 KU and then beating the #3 OK (assuming OK continues to win) in the Big12 final MAY be just enough strength to do it.

[Jew Mafia]

osu baets ou. outright. it will happen. then ou rips whichever faker shows up in the title game. i'm being mean on purpose.

After these last 2 games, I just don't see osu having the heart to beat ou. an if mu or ku wins out, they'll be in the nc, whether you think they're fake or not.

[Taxman]

I don't know.. It looks like KU could be ranked #3 or or even #2 by the time the match comes up. The win against Illinois just got stronger with them taking out OSU.

They absolutely have win out and then *maybe* get one of the new top 2 to stumble.

But beating a #3 KU and then beating the #3 OK (assuming OK continues to win) in the Big12 final MAY be just enough strength to do it.It doesn't look like the computers are real big on The Big XII this year.

[Taxman]

What the hell was that Michigan, freakin' terrible. LOL!Agreed, once they got close they totally fell apart.

[Frozen Sooner]

I don't know.. It looks like KU could be ranked #3 or or even #2 by the time the match comes up. The win against Illinois just got stronger with them taking out OSU.

They absolutely have win out and then *maybe* get one of the new top 2 to stumble.

But beating a #3 KU and then beating the #3 OK (assuming OK continues to win) in the Big12 final MAY be just enough strength to do it.

Well, hopefully Missouri shows up at Arrowhead in a few weeks, 'cause we'll be in San Antonio. :D

[Taxman]

Well, hopefully Missouri shows up at Arrowhead in a few weeks, 'cause we'll be in San Antonio. :DDo they have the same travel coordinator as Barack Obama?

[Frozen Sooner]

Mizzou was one missed tackle and one dropped INT from beating OK in Norman. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Mizzou *could* win out at a neutral site.

Um, Mizzou was down 17 points with two minutes to go and scored a garbage TD to bring it to 10.

Missouri was one HELL of a lot further from beating OU in Norman than "one missed tackle and one dropped INT."

If we want to look at it that way, OU was a couple of dropped passes away from putting fifty on Missouri and blowing them completely out of the stadium.

[bartleby]

Nice send off for the Orange there. :lol:

It was billed as the last game Miami would play in the Orange Bowl, but it sure didn't look like Miami was playing last night.

[Beep Beep!]

. . .

[Taxman]

I did the whole three day DCI thing there 24 years ago. It was the grossest stadium I had ever marched in or been to then. Why is Miami vacating that place now? Joe Robbie Stadium opened 20 years ago, what is the rush?

Maybe Frozen Sooner or Gunter has been to the Orange Bowl and has fond memories of the place or can also tell us what a hell hole it was.

[Gunter]

I did the whole three day DCI thing there 24 years ago. It was the grossest stadium I had ever marched in or been to then. Why is Miami vacating that place now? Joe Robbie Stadium opened 20 years ago, what is the rush?

Maybe Frozen Sooner or Gunter has been to the Orange Bowl and has fond memories of the place or can also tell us what a hell hole it was.

Unfortunately I've never been there. My parents went to the 79 Orange Bowl and I remember they weren't impressed with it then.

[Frozen Sooner]

Never been to the Orange Bowl for a game. Mom's high school used to play there, though.

[Jew Mafia]

New AP Poll is out.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/ncaa/11/11/bc.fbc.t25.collegefbpol.ap/index.html

1. LSU
2. Oregon
3. Oklahoma
4. Kansas
5. West Virginia
6. Missouri
7. Ohio St.
8. Georgia
9. Arizona St.
10. Virginia Tech

[Adrian B AWESOME]

My quick two cents:

If you run the table in a major conference, you deserve to play in the National Champioship. If Kansas wins the next two games and the Big 12 championship, they should be at least the #2 team in the nation, if not #1.

[Black Roman]

My quick two cents:

If you run the table in a major conference, you deserve to play in the National Champioship. If Kansas wins the next two games and the Big 12 championship, they should be at least the #2 team in the nation, if not #1.


I agree. I don't think they WILL but I agree. :p

[Frozen Sooner]

My two cents:

There's a lot of football left to be played. Oklahoma still has to beat Texas Tech or Oklahoma State to get to the Big 12 title game, and for KU to have a shot at the BCS title game they need OU to beat both. Beating both Missouri and an 11-1 Oklahoma team should give them the computer bump they'll need-particularly since Missouri beat Illinois, who beat Ohio State, who the computers were giving a lot of love to.

That being said, if Oklahoma beats Kansas and LSU and Oregon win the rest of their games, I promise not to complain about OU not being in the title game. :D

[Black Roman]

My two cents:

There's a lot of football left to be played. Oklahoma still has to beat Texas Tech or Oklahoma State to get to the Big 12 title game, and for KU to have a shot at the BCS title game they need OU to beat both. Beating both Missouri and an 11-1 Oklahoma team should give them the computer bump they'll need-particularly since Missouri beat Illinois, who beat Ohio State, who the computers were giving a lot of love to.

That being said, if Oklahoma beats Kansas and LSU and Oregon win the rest of their games, I promise not to complain about OU not being in the title game. :D

:lol: Oregon and LSU aren't out of the water either I'm not worried about Arkansas or Ole Miss, but I am worried about the SEC Championship game. (I'm hoping for a Kentucky GRUDGE MATCH) And Oregon does have to worry about UCLA slightly.

[Frozen Sooner]

Isn't Kentucky already eliminated from the SEC title game?

[Black Roman]

Isn't Kentucky already eliminated from the SEC title game?

Oh yeah, My bad. A Florida rematch would rock though :D (I think we'd kick Tennessee ass if we play so I'm rooting for TN.)
Georgia 5-2
Tennessee 4-2
Florida 5-3

[Black Roman]

BCS Standings
1. LSU 9-1
2. Oregon 8-1
3. Kansas 10-0
4. Oklahoma 9-1
5. Missouri 9-1
6. West Virginia 8-1
7. Ohio State 10-1
8. Arizona State 9-1
9. Georgia 8-2
10. Virginia Tech 8-2
11. USC 8-2
12. Florida 7-3
13. Texas 9-2
14. Virginia 9-2
15. Clemson 8-2
16. Hawaii 9-0
17. Boston College 8-2
18. Boise State 9-1
19. Illinois 8-3
20. Tennessee 7-3
21. Michigan 8-3
22. Cincinnati 8-2
23. Kentucky 7-3
24. Connecticut 8-2
25. Wisconsin 8-3
Complete Standings Here!
(http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/BCSStandings?week=5)


New BCS Standings! Fuck yeah!!! Back on top baby!!! :rock:

[Brewtown Andy]

Go Jayhawks.

[Taxman]

Those computers really don't like Oklahoma much at all. I wonder whether they programed those things with any mascot or color bias.

[Frozen Sooner]

Those computers really don't like Oklahoma much at all. I wonder whether they programed those things with any mascot or color bias.


:lol:

Nah, it's just that OU's loss is to a CU team who's computer stock is dropping weekly and OU's best out-of-conference win is against a Miami team that's proving to be absolutely terrible.

[Gunter]

That being said, if Oklahoma beats Kansas and LSU and Oregon win the rest of their games, I promise not to complain about OU not being in the title game. :D

I, however, make no such promise.

[Taxman]

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=bigtenmayhavemadeaveryco&prov=tsn&type=lgns


Big Ten may have made a very costly mistake


By Tom Dienhart - SportingNews


Did the Big Ten make a $4.5 million mistake by allowing an officiating crew that was facing a suspension this weekend to work last Saturday's Illinois-Ohio State game?

As I reported last week, a source told me the conference plans to suspend the crew that officiated the Nov. 3 Purdue-Penn State game based on a review of its work in that game. That same crew worked one of the biggest Big Ten games of the year last weekend in Columbus.
Incredible.

Why would the Big Ten assign the crew -- a few of whom could be fired for their work in the Purdue-Penn State game -- to a game of this importance?

The Big Ten does not comment on specific officiating issues.

The crew includes referee Stephen Pamon, umpire Pat Bayers, linesman Jack Teitz, line judge Robert Davis, back judge Dennis Morris, field judge Bobby Sagers and side judge Joe Duncan.
That group called just three penalties, one on Illinois and two on Ohio State. And a few perceived non-calls have Buckeye Nation angry. Many more fans are upset knowing this crew was running the game.

Were there blown calls? That's debatable. But perception matters more than reality. And the reality is this crew shouldn't have been trusted with such a game.

And how's this for another megadose of reality? The loss cost No. 1 Ohio State a shot at playing for the BCS title. What's more, that loss hurt the Big Ten's chances of sending a second school to a BCS bowl, which would net the conference an additional $4.5 million.

Now, the Big Ten will have to be satisfied with getting just one BCS team. The winner of this weekend's Ohio State at Michigan game will go to the Rose Bowl.

[JoeE]

I would LOVE for UGA to play LSU in the SEC title game. We're hot as hell right now and we'd probably to be the best competition for LSU. Unfortunately, we have to win out and Tennessee has to lose for that to happen, and I don't think Tennessee will lose.

[Gunter]

It's been fuck a Duck night so far.

[Jumbopimp]

It's been fuck a Duck night so far.

It will be interesting to see if Oregon can pull it together in the second half.

[Taxman]

It will be interesting to see if Oregon can pull it together in the second half.If Dixon is out for the year, they are screwed anyway. Anyone know what happened to that guy?

[Jew Mafia]

If Dixon is out for the year, they are screwed anyway. Anyone know what happened to that guy?

His knee buckled when he planted his foot during a dropback. I don't think he was even touched.

[Taxman]

His knee buckled when he planted his foot during a dropback. I don't think he was even touched.have they said anything about a prognosis? I had the Arizona radio broadcast on, and one the guys on that said that he was crying.

[Jew Mafia]

All anyone has said is that he is out for the game, no one will say anything about the rest of the season, so it's probably bad.

edit - An as I say that, they show him hanging out on the sideline. I dunno.

[Jumbopimp]

All anyone has said is that he is out for the game, no one will say anything about the rest of the season, so it's probably bad.

edit - An as I say that, they show him hanging out on the sideline. I dunno.

He's walked around a bit on the sideline but there's a good possibility he's completely out of the season. I wanted Arizona to win but didn't want to see Oregon lose because of an injury like this.

[half guard]

his knee had been injured previously, hadn't it? i think it was a matter of re-injuring it and making it worse than it was before.

[Gunter]

Didn't he hurt it in the ASU game?

[Jew Mafia]

He's walked around a bit on the sideline but there's a good possibility he's completely out of the season. I wanted Arizona to win but didn't want to see Oregon lose because of an injury like this.

They might still pull it out. AZ's offense has disappeared.

[half guard]

brilliant sign: "play better"

[Taxman]

So that fumble on the fake punt, while the officials were trying to unpile, I saw a UofA player signaling that Oregon had recovered. I have never seen that one before.

[Gunter]

How did they miss that face mask?

[Jumbopimp]

How did they miss that face mask?

Officials and Oregon. They really don't watch the game. They're too busy watching the something else on the mini tv's in their pockets.

[Taxman]

Am I the only one thinking that this will not be the only upset in the top ten that we see this week?

[Gunter]

Am I the only one thinking that this will not be the only upset in the top ten that we see this week?

As long as it's the only one in the top 5 I'll be happy.

[Frozen Sooner]

Well, I'm OK with KU, LSU, or Misery losing.

[Jew Mafia]

Barring a meltdown by the Big XII this weekend, you can pretty much pencil in OU/MU/KU in the championship game now I think.

[Gunter]

Well, I'm OK with KU, LSU, or Misery losing.

I like having 3 Big XXII teams in the top 5.

LSU on the other hand...

[BClayMoore]

Barring a meltdown by the Big XII this weekend, you can pretty much pencil in OU/MU/KU in the championship game now I think.

I'm rooting for "meltdown."

-BCM

[Jew Mafia]

I'm rooting for "meltdown."

-BCM

You're such a killjoy Clay. :)

[BClayMoore]

You're such a killjoy Clay. :)


What can I say? I'm a K-Stater.

In a perfect world, we beat Mizzou, Iowa State beats KU, and then Mizzou beats KU next week.

IT COULD HAPPEN!

-BCM

[Jumbopimp]

What can I say? I'm a K-Stater.

In a perfect world, we beat Mizzou, Iowa State beats KU, and then Mizzou beats KU next week.

IT COULD HAPPEN!

-BCM

As long as OU doesn't lose I'm good with that.

[JHickman]

I really want to see LSU lose to georgia/tenn/florida in the SEC champ game. WV lose again. Somehow Miss beat Kansas and then Miss/Kan lose to Oklanoma who just lost to TT or Ok State. VT/UVa/BC or Clemson win out. Ohio State lose to Michigan. And I want Arizona St. to lose one more.

Then every BCS conf. will have a two-loss team as the conference champ.

People go ape shit. Playoffs ensue.

[Taxman]

I really want to see LSU lose to georgia/tenn/florida in the SEC champ game. WV lose again. Somehow Miss beat Kansas and then Miss/Kan lose to Oklanoma who just lost to TT or Ok State. VT/UVa/BC or Clemson win out. Ohio State lose to Michigan. And I want Arizona St. to lose one more.

Then every BCS conf. will have a two-loss team as the conference champ.

People go ape shit. Playoffs ensue.Look out for Hawaii. ;-)

[Black Roman]

I really want to see LSU lose to georgia/tenn/florida in the SEC champ game. WV lose again. Somehow Miss beat Kansas and then Miss/Kan lose to Oklanoma who just lost to TT or Ok State. VT/UVa/BC or Clemson win out. Ohio State lose to Michigan. And I want Arizona St. to lose one more.

Then every BCS conf. will have a two-loss team as the conference champ.

People go ape shit. Playoffs ensue.

Ha! The fact that people are plotting LSU's downfall already is a sure sign that they are the biggest threat!

[Frozen Sooner]

I really want to see LSU lose to georgia/tenn/florida in the SEC champ game. WV lose again. Somehow Miss beat Kansas and then Miss/Kan lose to Oklanoma who just lost to TT or Ok State. VT/UVa/BC or Clemson win out. Ohio State lose to Michigan. And I want Arizona St. to lose one more.

Then every BCS conf. will have a two-loss team as the conference champ.

People go ape shit. Playoffs ensue.

Playoffs are not happening for several years, for various reasons.

[Jumbopimp]

Ha! The fact that people are plotting LSU's downfall already is a sure sign that they are the biggest threat!

Or the biggest jackasses. (not necessarily you)
I've never been to an LSU game but my wife used to go with her parents and grandparents when she was younger and said that the LSU fans would throw glass bottles at the Florida fans after the game. It didn't matter if LSU won or lost they were out of control.

[Black Roman]

Or the biggest jackasses. (not necessarily you)
I've never been to an LSU game but my wife used to go with her parents and grandparents when she was younger and said that the LSU fans would throw glass bottles at the Florida fans after the game. It didn't matter if LSU won or lost they were out of control.

Yes some LSU fans are a bit . . . overzealous. But LSU fans aren't the WORST fans in the world. No need to group the TEAM with the FANS.

[Jumbopimp]

Yes some LSU fans are a bit . . . overzealous. But LSU fans aren't the WORST fans in the world.

Maybe not but at the time they were close. It was also during the days when the games were BYOB. From what I've heard they aren't like that anymore but she told me of watching one drunk LSU fan in overalls drink from a moonshine jug during the first half and then just yell things the second half.

[Black Roman]

Maybe not but at the time they were close. It was also during the days when the games were BYOB. From what I've heard they aren't like that anymore but she told me of watching one drunk LSU fan in overalls drink from a moonshine jug during the first half and then just yell things the second half.

They are a little better . . . I mean the tailgaters are a little odd (They barbecued an actual gator before the Florida game) but they aren't AS bad. Though the cry of "Tiger Bait" is usually in the air around rival fans.

[Jumbopimp]

They are a little better . . . I mean the tailgaters are a little odd (They barbecued an actual gator before the Florida game) but they aren't AS bad. Though the cry of "Tiger Bait" is usually in the air around rival fans.

Yeah, I think the stories are funny actually. I'm curious to see what they grill if OU plays them for the Nat. Championship. Maybe dig up an actual sooner and burn the remains?

[Black Roman]

Yeah, I think the stories are funny actually. I'm curious to see what they grill if OU plays them for the Nat. Championship. Maybe dig up an actual sooner and burn the remains?

A horse of course of course. :p LSU/ Oklahoma would be great. It would be Identical to the 2003 (or was it 04?) game. It's even in New Orleans this year!

[RebootedCorpse]

Going into the fourth, looks like OSU will back playing for the so-called National Championship.
Buh-bye, Lloyd.

[Jumbopimp]

A horse of course of course. :p LSU/ Oklahoma would be great. It would be Identical to the 2003 (or was it 04?) game. It's even in New Orleans this year!

Yeah hopefully with a different outcome.
It was the 2003 season but the game was in 2004. Here's an old article i just found prior to the game.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2003-12-07-bcs-sugar-bowl_x.htm


Co-champs loom after Okla., LSU chosen for Sugar Bowl
By Steve Wieberg, USA TODAY

You prefer order? Clarity? End-of-season harmony? Then college football isn't your game. The one major sport that won't go by the book, that clings to a decades-old bowl system and refuses to settle its championship via a conventional playoff, is caught in an unprecedented storm today. An improbable final weekend of the regular season delivered three once-beaten candidates for a national title game that can accommodate only two
There'll be considerable debate in the next four weeks, and most likely beyond, as to whether it settled on the right two.

Oklahoma and LSU were anointed Sunday by the Bowl Championship Series despite the Sooners being whipped 35-7 by Kansas State a day earlier in the Big 12 Conference championship game. The finalists will meet in the Jan. 4 Nokia Sugar Bowl.

Squeezed out: Southern California, which happens to sit atop both major polls, including the USA TODAY/ESPN coaches' rankings. The 11-1 Trojans have piled up more than 40 points in each of their last seven games and won their last eight, including Saturday's 52-28 rout of Oregon State. But they're headed for the BCS' answer to off-Broadway, the Rose Bowl in nearby Pasadena, Calif.

The sport could wind up with its first split title since 1997, something the BCS and its guaranteed Nos. 1-vs.-2 matchup were supposed to prevent.

"I don't see, if it is split, where it hurts anybody," Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops says. "It's just the way the system is."

Celebrate its uniqueness. Or curse its inadequacies, as playoff advocates and other critics long have done.

"It's real obvious what happened," USC coach Pete Carroll says. "The No. 1 team in the country (according to the polls) isn't playing in the game they are billing as the national championship. If this is an evolutionary moment, maybe they'll figure something out (to improve the system) in the future."

"If a team cannot win their conference," argues Chad Lavalais, LSU's senior defensive tackle, "they should not be playing for the national title."

OU rewarded for whole season

Oklahoma is in the hunt for its second title in four years. But in a sense, pity the 12-1 Sooners. They're as questionable a finalist as Nebraska in 2001, when the Cornhuskers reached the Big Game despite a 62-36 defeat at Colorado in their regular-season finale. They lost 37-14 to Miami (Fla.) in the Rose Bowl.

Simply put, OU built enough cachet in three months of dominating play — trailing for less than six of 720 minutes in its first 12 games — to survive its Saturday night massacre in Kansas City, Mo. Quarterback and potential Heisman Trophy winner Jason White threw two interceptions and not a single touchdown pass against Kansas State, and the Sooners' celebrated defense was pillaged for 519 yards and five TDs.

The 35 points they surrendered to K-State matched their total allowed in six earlier games vs. Texas A&M (0), North Texas (3), Baylor (3), Iowa State (7), Oklahoma State (9) and Texas (13).

Cynics are sniping: That's a springboard to the Sugar Bowl?

Sunday's controversy capped a tumultuous fall for the BCS, which has been criticized even on Capitol Hill for disproportionately favoring the nation's six richest conferences. The BCS pecking order is determined by a combination of the two major polls, seven computer rankings, strength of schedule and losses.

While the humans who vote in the polls dropped OU from No. 1 to No. 3, the seven computers used by the BCS were more dispassionate. They saw the late collapse no differently than, say, Southern California's stumble against California in September. In fact, the Sooners' loss was less damaging; K-State is a stronger opponent than Cal.

Oklahoma's schedule is rated 11th toughest out of 117 I-A schools. Five of the seven computer rankings have the Sooners No. 1, and one had them No. 2. LSU is No. 1 or 2 in every computer.

"We've come, I don't know, 13 or 14 straight weeks being No. 1 in the country, carrying that burden the entire year, and played pretty well," Stoops says. "In the end we are No. 1 in the BCS. Not 2 or 3 or anything else. I think that says enough. … There's nothing to apologize about."

LSU, on the strength of a 34-13 victory vs. Georgia in Saturday's Southeastern Conference championship game in Atlanta, leapfrogged Southern California to finish No. 2 in the BCS rankings.

All went wrong for Trojans

USC landed at No. 3. Outside of the Trojans' win vs. Oregon State, in which quarterback Matt Leinart threw five TD passes, everything that could have gone wrong for them did Saturday.

Georgia couldn't knock LSU out of the way in Atlanta. Notre Dame fell at Syracuse, lowering the value of USC's rout of the Fighting Irish in October. Finally, Hawaii lost at home to Boise State, devaluing a Southern California win vs. the Warriors in September. The Trojans wound up trailing both Oklahoma and LSU in six of the BCS' seven computer ratings and in overall schedule strength.

USC is No. 1 in only one computer. USA TODAY's Jeff Sagarin, who is part of the formula, dropped them from third to fourth after the Oregon State game. Miami (Ohio) moved into third in Sagarin's ratings. The worst ranking among the seven computers for each team is thrown out (which Sagarin's was for USC).

There's some irony in all this. The computers were folded into the formula when the BCS was formed in 1998 because writers voting in the AP poll objected to playing an exclusive role in determining its championship matchup, preferring to cover the news rather than make it. Plus, it was felt computers lent balance.

Now they're a source of contention.

Still, with a victory vs. Michigan in the New Year's Day Rose Bowl, the Trojans should claim a share of the national title. The sportswriters and sportscasters who vote in the Associated Press poll are almost certain to keep a 12-1 USC No. 1.

"We look at the Rose Bowl as the national championship game for us. I don't think there's any denying that," Carroll says.

As for the other half of the title …

The American Football Coaches Association, which provides the 63 voters in the USA TODAY/ESPN poll, says its final No. 1 ranking and championship trophy are reserved for the BCS' 1-vs.-2 winner. That's the Sugar survivor.

Whether the individual coaches who cast ballots will follow that stipulation if Southern California — also their No. 1 team as of now — wins the Rose remains to be seen. Particularly if Oklahoma comes back to beat LSU in the Sugar.

The uncertainty and controversy come at a critical time. The BCS contracts expire after the 2005 season, and conference commissioners and school presidents are weighing its future format. Congress has raised questions about fairness during House and Senate judiciary committee hearings revolving around the virtual exclusion of schools from five of the 11 conferences in Division I-A.

Today's confusion may lend momentum to one proposed revision already on the table: adding a stand-alone title game after the four current bowls (Sugar, Federal Express Orange, Tostitos Fiesta and Rose). Simply run the poll-and-computer numbers again to identify a final No. 1 and No. 2 to meet for the title.

With that, the Sugar, Orange, Fiesta and Rose would constitute a sort of semifinal round.

"A plus-one type of championship," says Big 12 Commissioner Kevin Weiberg, who'll become the BCS' coordinator next season, "might help sort it out."

Of course, a 16- or even eight-team playoff would be far tidier. Oklahoma would be in. Both Southern California and LSU would be in, along with Big Ten champion Michigan.

There are no indications, however, a full playoff is imminent. University presidents involved in the BCS deliberations effectively pulled that option from consideration when the process began. There's fierce loyalty to the bowl system. There are concerns that a playoff would diminish interest in the regular season. There are questions as to who would run a playoff — the NCAA? — and whether the money would be distributed more evenly than the $118 million in BCS revenue now largely hoarded by the Big Six.

One thing the BCS will give thought to is requiring a championship finalist to first win its conference title, something Nebraska didn't do in 2001 and Oklahoma failed to do Saturday.

"Obviously, with the events of this year and the fact that it's the second time it's happened in three years, we'd be foolish if we didn't take a hard look at it," Big East Commissioner and current BCS coordinator Mike Tranghese says.

For now he can only empathize with Carroll and Southern California.

"If you're a USC fan, you're very, very disappointed," Tranghese says. "On the other hand, if you're an Oklahoma or an LSU fan, you're happy because you're being given an opportunity to play.

"In the old (pre-BCS) system, these teams would have gone to three separate bowl games. USC would have gone to the Rose, and LSU would have been in the Sugar and Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. And none of them would have played. So I think our system is better than what we had."

Better. But not a balm.

[Jumbopimp]

Wow I just realized from the article that OU could play KSU in the BIG XII championship and then LSU in the National Championship again.

[Frozen Sooner]

Wow I just realized from the article that OU could play KSU in the BIG XII championship and then LSU in the National Championship again.

KSU is mathematically eliminated from the CCG. They have four conference losses and appear headed for #5 right now.

[Black Roman]

Come on Kentucky!!! (Sorry UGA fans)

[RebootedCorpse]

Michigan goes down with 91 yards total offense...:lol:

[Jumbopimp]

KSU is mathematically eliminated from the CCG. They have four conference losses and appear headed for #5 right now.

You're right. I was watching the Mizzou KSU game and was putting KSU in the place of Kansas. My mistake.

[Black Roman]

LSu games starts in a minute.

[Black Roman]

Nice Punt Ole Miss. Nice Punt.

[JoeE]

Come on Kentucky!!! (Sorry UGA fans)

Hah, not so much.

Now if Vandy gives us an early Christmas present this afternoon (up 8 points on the Vols already), UGA will face LSU in the SEC championship. And likely get destroyed.

[Black Roman]

Wow. What has happened to Kentucky?

[JoeE]

Vandy 24, Tennessee 9. You can watch it here, for those of us invested in the SEC title race.

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-espnu-6.html

[Black Roman]

Damn you Vanderbilt. :mad:

[Taxman]

Wow. What has happened to Kentucky?The think Howardshell has an answer for this.

[Gunter]

Wow. What has happened to Kentucky?

Reality.


They woke up one day and said, "Hey, what are we doing playing football?"

[Black Roman]

Come on Tennessee you're not out of this yet!

[Taxman]

Reality.


They woke up one day and said, "Hey, what are we doing playing football?":lol:

The better question is, what happened to The Roman?

[Black Roman]

:lol:

The better question is, what happened to The Roman?

Lysha happened!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Taxman]

Lysha happened!! :mad: :mad: :mad:At least your sig's finally been repaired.

[Gunter]

Does this mean that The Roman does not have to change his sig to Vasily Zaitsev?

[Black Roman]

I can't even see my sig.

[RebootedCorpse]

Best forced name change since Princess Mulan!

[Taxman]

LSU really hasn't played well since the Virgina Tech game. Kentucky is having a good year for them, but they were never really any sort of national power like the pollster had made them out to be. I have no idea what LSU's deal is, but that loss to UK was more about them than UK.

[Taxman]

Best forced name change since Princess Mulan!I think that one is probably out of reach.

[JoeE]

Vandy misses a FG attempt...game over. Tennessee wins. Kentucky will have to take care of business next week.

[Taxman]

I can't even see my sig.
__________________
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/dontdemon/toddsigii.jpg
:p

[Black Roman]

Tennessee is leading YES! This name is starting to grow on me. But that avatar has to go SOON.

[JHester]

Fuckin' Bama! Your NOT supposed to lose to LA. Monroe! I can't figure this team out. Auburn's gonna throttle us next week.

[Black Roman]

Fuckin' Bama! Your NOT supposed to lose to LA. Monroe! I can't figure this team out. Auburn's gonna throttle us next week.

NO F'in way! Bama lost to UL Monroe?!?!?!

[Taxman]

:lol: Nick Saban

[Black Roman]

Bama Lost To Ul Monroe?!?!?! UL Monroe?!?!?!

[Taxman]

Wow, 5 conference losses for Cal.




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Michigan blew their chance to lose 4 Rose Bowls in 5 years. :cry:

[Jew Mafia]

Bring on the Border War!

http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/25822/2714241250063415687S200x200Q85.jpg

[Jew Mafia]

Texas Tech is smelling upset over OU.

[Shane W]

Bring on the Border War!

http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/25822/2714241250063415687S200x200Q85.jpg

Wow. What does this mean if OK loses tonight? What does that do for the B12 championship?

[Jew Mafia]

Wow. What does this mean if OK loses tonight? What does that do for the B12 championship?

Not a whole lot. OU could still clinch the south as long as they beat OSU next week because they hold the tie breaker over Texas. Still a loss to TT could hurt the B12 overall in the national scene more than anything I think.

[Shane W]

Not a whole lot. OU could still clinch the south as long as they beat OSU next week because they hold the tie breaker over Texas. Still a loss to TT could hurt the B12 overall in the national scene more than anything I think.

You have tickets for next week, right?

[Jew Mafia]

You have tickets for next week, right?

Yessir

[Shane W]

Yessir


All right, you know I am holding you personally responsible for the outcome of this game.

[Jew Mafia]

All right, you know I am holding you personally responsible for the outcome of this game.

:cool:


I feel confident.

Should be an amazing game though.

[Shane W]

:cool:


I feel confident.

Should be an amazing game though.

If you're a betting man, definitely take the over. I assume the game is in Camerohead?

[Jew Mafia]

If you're a betting man, definitely take the over. I assume the game is in Camerohead?

Yeah, all the beakers at my work are upset because this would have been a home game for them. my heart bleeds. Sadly the biggest game at Arrowhead in forever :lol:

I can't imagine what the line is going to be, I wish I knew more about sports betting.

[Shane W]

Yeah, all the beakers at my work are upset because this would have been a home game for them. my heart bleeds. Sadly the biggest game at Arrowhead in forever :lol:

I can't imagine what the line is going to be, I wish I knew more about sports betting.

You have Mizzou gear? It looks like stuff is flying off the shelves here.

I'll keep an eye out for you in the stands.

[Jew Mafia]

You have Mizzou gear? It looks like stuff is flying off the shelves here.

I'll keep an eye out for you in the stands.

I got my Mizzou hat. Even though this game is at a "neutral site" there's way more KU fans in kc than mizzou sadly. It'll be interesting to see how well MU fans represent at the game.

[JoeE]

Frozen is clearly not having the best night.

[Frozen Sooner]

No, no he is not. I think I'm gong to go buy a monkey to beat.

No Bradford and no Murray now it looks like for the next game. Sweet Christmas, when it rains it pours.

Never a good sign when they have the sideline reporters playing with an Etch-a-sketch because you're getting beaten so badly.

[Taxman]

The two teams I think have the best chance of going undefeated are West Virginia and Oklahoma. Neither of these teams really has a game on the schedule which they should not be able to win. At Rutgers and at Texas Tech look like the biggest challenges.


Am I the only one thinking that this will not be the only upset in the top ten that we see this week?Wow, I am used to being right about once a year. Twice in one thread is more than I can handle.

[Frozen Sooner]

Yeah, Tech REALLY started to worry me when I saw what Baylor's version of their offense was doing last week. When Holmes ran that INT back I had some hope that we were sandbagging Baylor, but then when Bradford went down...

Not good.

Anyhow, just a well-executed gameplan on Tech's part. They found the holes that ARE there in our defense and exploited them. The lack of Auston English REALLY hurt, as OU couldn't muster anything like a pass rush the whole game.

[Taxman]

I am starting to feel that The Bowl With No Name will not really be very compelling this year because of the diminished case at least one of the two teams will have made for being the most worthy participant. Is anyone else feeling this way?

[Frozen Sooner]

Well, I know I probably won't be watching. It'll come on while I'm at work, and I ain't taking time off to watch LSU play a home game.

[bartleby]

Carr expected to announce retirement as Michigan coach

Saturday, November 17, 2007
ESPN.com news services


It appears that Michigan lost a little more than just the game against Ohio State.

ESPN has learned that Michigan coach Lloyd Carr will hold a 10 a.m. press conference on Monday at which time he is expected to announce his retirement.


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3116338

[JoeE]

Yeah, Tech REALLY started to worry me when I saw what Baylor's version of their offense was doing last week. When Holmes ran that INT back I had some hope that we were sandbagging Baylor, but then when Bradford went down...

Not good.

Anyhow, just a well-executed gameplan on Tech's part. They found the holes that ARE there in our defense and exploited them. The lack of Auston English REALLY hurt, as OU couldn't muster anything like a pass rush the whole game.

What is with Texas Tech's passing offense? Every year I watch at least one or two games and it seems like every time their QB is just putting up absolutely insane numbers. Seems to me like if they could develop a more balanced attack they'd be giving everyone in the Big 12 fits, because obviously Leach knows how to develop pocket passers and receivers.

[RebootedCorpse]

Carr expected to announce retirement as Michigan coach

Saturday, November 17, 2007
ESPN.com news services


It appears that Michigan lost a little more than just the game against Ohio State.

ESPN has learned that Michigan coach Lloyd Carr will hold a 10 a.m. press conference on Monday at which time he is expected to announce his retirement.


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3116338
Yeah, it was pretty well established that if Granpa Carrr lost to OSU after falling to App State he would no longer have a job in AA. So he has decided to go the "spend more time with the family" route.

[bartleby]

Yeah, it was pretty well established that if Granpa Carrr lost to OSU after falling to App State he would no longer have a job in AA. So he has decided to go the "spend more time with the family" route.

I really don't think the loss to Ohio State had that much impact on the decision. Carr's ticket was punched in the App State game.

[RebootedCorpse]

I really don't think the loss to Ohio State had that much impact on the decision. Carr's ticket was punched in the App State game.

Dude, beating Ohio State would have guaranteed him a job next year. Most of the I-94 alumni think of nothing else outside of beating Notre Dame and Michigan State, where they eeked out a win.
They would have forgiven him for App State until the next UMich loss where they would once again be calling for him to be fired on the spot.

[bartleby]

Dude, beating Ohio State would have guaranteed him a job next year. Most of the I-94 alumni think of nothing else outside of beating Notre Dame and Michigan State, where they eeked out a win.
They would have forgiven him for App State until the next UMich loss where they would once again be calling for him to be fired on the spot.

I think most Michigan fans have wanted Carr gone for a long time now. Losing to a Div-1AA team was the final nail in the coffin. Short of going the rest of this season undefeated and winning the BCS Championship, I don't think there was anything Carr could have done to earn his job back.

[RebootedCorpse]

I think most Michigan fans have wanted Carr gone for a long time now. Losing to a Div-1AA team was the final nail in the coffin. Short of going the rest of this season undefeated and winning the BCS Championship, I don't think there was anything Carr could have done to earn his job back.

You overestimate the intellect of most UMich fans.

[Taxman]

Carr expected to announce retirement as Michigan coach

Saturday, November 17, 2007
ESPN.com news services


It appears that Michigan lost a little more than just the game against Ohio State.

ESPN has learned that Michigan coach Lloyd Carr will hold a 10 a.m. press conference on Monday at which time he is expected to announce his retirement.


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3116338I heard and interview with Les Miles during the week. I think chances are very strong that he is going to take this job.

[RebootedCorpse]

I heard and interview with Les Miles during the week. I think chances are very strong that he is going to take this job.

The rumor they love around here is that Saban is up for the job. That would be armageddon.

[Taxman]

You overestimate the intellect of most UMich fans.They understand 2-5.

[Taxman]

The rumor they love around here is that Saban is up for the job. That would be armageddon.That must have been a joke. Errr . . . at least it was before the Northeastern Louisiana game.

[Frozen Sooner]

What is with Texas Tech's passing offense? Every year I watch at least one or two games and it seems like every time their QB is just putting up absolutely insane numbers. Seems to me like if they could develop a more balanced attack they'd be giving everyone in the Big 12 fits, because obviously Leach knows how to develop pocket passers and receivers.

To break it down very simply:

Leach's offensive philosophy is that there's no reason NOT to throw it on every down. He completely sells out to that philosophy to the extent where his line has huge gaps in it. The advantage of this is that speed rushers can't get around the edge fast enough to sack the QB, and because he's in shotgun it's very tough to get to him up the middle.

Anyhow, their passing game is predicated on putting more receivers on the field than you have defensive backs who can cover. Since most college teams run some sort of zone, Tech floods one side of the field on almost every play, so someone is always open. It's almost impossible to man against them effectively, because you just don't have enough athletes to stop them.

Generally OU and Texas are the only teams in the Big 12 who've been able to stop Tech's offense consistently because those are the only two teams with the blazing speed at DE and DT to get to the Tech QB in time and have enough athletes in the secondary to cover Tech's receivers. Unfortunately for OU this year, our best pass rusher was hurt for the game and our defense just doesn't have the depth at DB we're used to.

[Black Roman]

UL MONROE? UL MONROE? ALABAMA LOST TO UL MONROE? No matter how much I say it I just can't believe it. :no:

[Black Roman]

I can't believe Oregon only dropped 7 spots after such a horrible loss. USF lost to Rutgers and they dropped to 11th or so. Arizona isn't as good as Rutgers and the game was closer. Can anyone say . . . BIAS?

[bartleby]

I find it ironic that "The Todd II" had problems with my disparaging comments about his team when he's pretty much bashed every single other team in the top 25.

[Black Roman]

I find it ironic that "The Todd II" had problems with my disparaging comments about his team when he's pretty much bashed every single other team in the top 25.

. . . :? I have no problem with you bashing LSU. Bash away. I have a problem with you constantly picking at everything I say. Like this post case in point. This is what gets you on a person's ignore list. Which is where you will be going back to if you don't get your facts straight.

[Taxman]

I can't believe Oregon only dropped 7 spots after such a horrible loss. USF lost to Rutgers and they dropped to 11th or so. Arizona isn't as good as Rutgers and the game was closer. Can anyone say . . . BIAS?Oh course there is a bias. All these polls are is opinion. LSU is only #1 because the voters think they are better than Kansas.

[Black Roman]

Oh course there is a bias. All these polls are is opinion. LSU is only #1 because the voters think they are better than Kansas.

Point taken . . . of course I'm still not a believer in the power of Kansas but we'll see after the Missouri game.

[Black Roman]

What do ya know. Carr is retiring . . . I wonder if this means Les Miles WILL leave us. :(


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3117704

[Taxman]

What do ya know. Carr is retiring . . . I wonder if this means Les Miles WILL leave us. :(


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3117704I heard a Les Miles interview on Jim Rome this week. I was convinced that he would take the Michigan job, and he said nothing to directly indicate that.

[Black Roman]

I heard a Les Miles interview on Jim Rome this week. I was convinced that he would take the Michigan job, and he said nothing to directly indicate that.

I know exactly what you mean. He was talking AROUND the question.

[Taxman]

I know exactly what you mean. He was talking AROUND the question.I guess you heard this too then. When he said that the Buckeyes dominance against Michigan was going to end soon, it was evident by his tone just how much he still loves that school. At the end of the interview, I also believed that he meant the say that he would be bringing it to an end.

[Black Roman]

I guess you heard this too then. When he said that the Buckeyes dominance against Michigan was going to end soon, it was evident by his tone just how much he still loves that school. At the end of the interview, I also believed that he meant the say that he would be bringing it to an end.

:nonono2: LSU doesn't need another coach change. *sigh* But I guess I wouldn't blame Miles if he decided to go to his alma matter. (I'll feel much better about it if we win the National Title :p)

[Black Roman]

New BCS Standings just the rankings for right now. The statistics haven't been released yet.

1. LSU
2. Kansas
3. West Virginia
4. Missouri
5. Ohio State
6. Arizona State
7. Georgia
8. Virginia Tech
9. Oregon
10. Oklahoma
11. USC
12. Florida
13. Texas
14. Boston College
15. Hawaii
16. Virginia
17. Illinois
18. Tennessee
19. Boise State
20. Connecticut
21. Wisconsin
22. Clemson
23. South Florida
24. Cincinnati
25. BYU

Yay for USF. Back in the Top 25.

[Jew Mafia]

I'm a bit surprised that WVU jumped MU.

[Black Roman]

I'm a bit surprised that WVU jumped MU.

The Two are tied at 3rd on the Harris Poll and The Coaches Poll puts West Virginia just ahead of Missouri. (like 20 points ahead) so I guess Computer results just further confirmed it.

[Jew Mafia]

The Two are tied at 3rd on the Harris Poll and The Coaches Poll puts West Virginia just ahead of Missouri. (like 20 points ahead) so I guess Computer results just further confirmed it.

Oh well, MU beats KU this week hopefully they'll leap over them. Having watched WVU the last 2 weeks, they don't look as good as LSU, KU, or MU.

[Black Roman]

Oh well, MU beats KU this week hopefully they'll leap over them. Having watched WVU the last 2 weeks, they don't look as good as LSU, KU, or MU.

Not even in the same league. :nonono2: I'm rooting for Missouri. An All-Tigers National Title sounds cool to me.

[Jew Mafia]

Not even in the same league. :nonono2: I'm rooting for Missouri. An All-Tigers National Title sounds cool to me.


:thumb:


Works for me, anyone besides Ohio St.

[Black Roman]

Okay, the full stats

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/BCSStandings?week=6

[Taxman]

West Virginia, Ohio State and Arizona State are all tied for third in computers.

That geek, Jeff Sagarin has Kansas as the #1 team.

Something called Richard Billingsley has Ohio State #1.

[Black Roman]

Man they really hate Boise State and Hawaii for some reason don't they?

[Taxman]

Man they really hate Boise State and Hawaii for some reason don't they?Those team don't play a schedule which can really be compared to most of the BCS conference teams. Hawaii moved up five spots in computers this week though.

[Black Roman]

Those team don't play a schedule which can really be compared to most of the BCS conference teams. Hawaii moved up five spots in computers this week though.

Yeah I know. But I kinda have to root for the underdog. I want hawaii to make a bowl game.

[Jew Mafia]

West Virginia, Ohio State and Arizona State are all tied for third in computers.

That geek, Jeff Sagarin has Kansas as the #1 team.

Something called Richard Billingsley has Ohio State #1.

Where do you see who voted for whom?

[Black Roman]

Six computer rankings calculated in inverse points order (25 for #1, 24 for #2, etc.) are used to determine the overall computer component. The best and worst ranking for each team is dropped, and the remaining four are added and divided by 100 (the maximum possible points) to produce a Computer Rankings Percentage. The six computer ranking providers are Anderson & Hester, Richard Billingsley, Colley Matrix, Kenneth Massey, Jeff Sagarin, and Peter Wolfe. Each computer ranking accounts for schedule strength in its formula.



You'll notice in the Computer Poll part of this page that each column has an initial on it. Those are THEIR initials.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/BCSStandings?week=6

[Jew Mafia]

gotcha thanks

[Frozen Sooner]

Billingsley has been part of the BCS since inception. He's a dude in Hugo, OK.

[Black Roman]

I really want LSU to make it to the Championship game. We've really gotten almost zero respect all season and us winning the big game would be such poetic justice. It's FATE!! Especially since we're probably going to lose our Head Coach.

[Gunter]

We've really gotten almost zero respect all season and us winning the big game would be such poetic justice.

Zero respect?

Zero respect?

I guess the media, including to a large part ESPN, slobbing LSU's knob equals zero respect now?

[Black Roman]

Zero respect?

Zero respect?

I guess the media, including to a large part ESPN, slobbing LSU's knob equals zero respect now?

What are you talking about? When Ohio State was number one nobody paid LSU any mind at all. Most of them still see us losing to Arkansas or whoever we play in the SEC championship. Sure a couple of them ARE on the bandwagon but it took Ohio State, Boston College, and a ton of other teams losin for anyone to acknowledge us.

[Gunter]

What are you talking about? When Ohio State was number one nobody paid LSU any mind at all. Most of them still see us losing to Arkansas or whoever we play in the SEC championship. Sure a couple of them ARE on the bandwagon but it took Ohio State, Boston College, and a ton of other teams losin for anyone to acknowledge us.


Take off the Tiger glasses and step away from the tainted gumbo because I think you're somewhat delusional.

And I mean that in the best way possible.

[Taxman]

Billingsley has been part of the BCS since inception. He's a dude in Hugo, OK.You endorse his models then? He has Oklahoma 15th.

[Taxman]

I really want LSU to make it to the Championship game. We've really gotten almost zero respect all season and us winning the big game would be such poetic justice. It's FATE!! Especially since we're probably going to lose our Head Coach.Wow dude, what planet are you even living on. LSU has been that favorite across the board the entire season. Some favored USC prior to the Washington game, but that was a long time ago. It's pretty much been LSU and everybody else all season.

[Frozen Sooner]

You endorse his modles then? He has Oklahoma 15th.

Where did you get that I endorse his models? They're about as good as anyone's, I guess.

[Taxman]

Where did you get that I endorse his models?Just kidding around.

I don't like any of the computers. Actually when you break it down, little about the system is legitimate.

[Jew Mafia]

It's going to get ugly Saturday...

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/sports.aol.com/fanhouse/media/2007/11/mizzoushirt07.jpg


http://www.jayhawkertees.com/images/keepingamericasafe.jpg

[Taxman]

UL MONROE? UL MONROE? ALABAMA LOST TO UL MONROE? No matter how much I say it I just can't believe it. :no:

http://www.star-telegram.com/college_sports/story/312551.html

NICK SABAN | LOSING PERSPECTIVE

The Associated Press

Searching to motivate his team after an embarrassing 21-14 loss to Louisiana-Monroe on Saturday, Alabama football coach Nick Saban appears to have gone overboard.


"Changes in history usually occur after some kind of catastrophic event," Saban said Monday during the opening remarks of his weekly news conference. "It may be 9-11, which sort of changed the spirit of America relative to catastrophic events. Pearl Harbor kind of got us ready for World War II, or whatever, and that was a catastrophic event."
Alabama plays in-state rival Auburn on Saturday.

[bartleby]

In the same press conference, Nick Saban also compared his team to alcoholics that needed to hit rock bottom before recognizing that they had to make drastic changes in their life.

[Taxman]

In the same press conference, Nick Saban also compared his team to alcoholics that needed to hit rock bottom before recognizing that they had to make drastic changes in their life.I am pretty sure that the powers that be in Tuscaloosa did not decided to pay Nick Saban however many million dollars a year to help the team hit rock bottom.

[Taxman]

I am at a hotel, and there was some guy trolling around the lobby with a Nebraska National Champions t-shirt. WTF, was that his grandfather's?

[Gunter]

I am at a hotel, and there was some guy trolling around the lobby with a Nebraska National Champions t-shirt. WTF, was that his grandfather's?

Probably left it to him in his will.

[Shane W]

LSU looks like complete shit today.

[half guard]

LSU looks like complete shit today.

IF they win this, they won't have deserved it. they look like garbage today.

[Shane W]

IF they win this, they won't have deserved it. they look like garbage today.


They're about to tie it.

[half guard]

They're about to tie it.

you have more faith in the purple and gold than i do.

[Shane W]

you have more faith in the purple and gold than i do.

No, I want them to lose.

[half guard]

color me surprised. they have been playing WAY too sloppy this game for me to have trusted them to finish this drive. not to mention, they've looked horrible in quite a few games that they've won (the kind where they didn't really deserve to win but got out by the skin of their teeth).

[Jew Mafia]

Just flipped the LSU/AR game on.... looks interesting.

[Shane W]

Just flipped the LSU/AR game on.... looks interesting.


It's ugly. Ark's favorite play has been fake the hand-off send the QB straight up the middle.

[Jew Mafia]

It's ugly. Ark's favorite play has been fake the hand-off send the QB straight up the middle.

wow, 3rd and 4 and you go for a running play with 20 seconds left? i dunno bout that

[Shane W]

wow, 3rd and 4 and you go for a running play with 20 seconds left? i dunno bout that

That has been their best play call so far. This is some shitty, shitty football. I can not see how LSU can still be #1 after this.

[Jew Mafia]

That has been their best play call so far. This is some shitty, shitty football. I can not see how LSU can still be #1 after this.

Media has fallen in love with the SEC for some reason. All year I've heard that LSU has the best talent in college, but they still have to show up an play.

[Jew Mafia]

I'm guessing AR has a horrible qb?

[Jew Mafia]

I'm guessing AR has a horrible qb?

Nevermind :)

Double overtime, awesome.

[bartleby]

LSU loses... Somebody's head is going to explode.

[Jew Mafia]

My oh my, LSU is out of the National Championship picture.

[Jew Mafia]

LSU loses... Somebody's head is going to explode.
Might be mine. I'll be at the MU/KU game tomorrow night. Winner has to be the new #1.

[Shane W]

Might be mine. I'll be at the MU/KU game tomorrow night. Winner has to be the new #1.

This is huge.. Fucking huge now.

[bartleby]

Well, at least Michigan won't have to wait quite so long to hire their new coach now.

[half guard]

My oh my, LSU is out of the National Championship picture.

the way they've played this year, i'm honestly surprised that they were able to achieve #1 and hold it for as long as they did.

[Jew Mafia]

This is huge.. Fucking huge now.

This scenario is pretty mind boggling. God I can't wait.

[JoeE]

At this point, I hope a 2-loss team plays for the national championship. It would be the perfect capper to this insane season.

And yes, I hope that team is Georgia.

[half guard]

Well, at least Michigan won't have to wait quite so long to hire their new coach now.

:lol:

[Gunter]

And the 'horns lose to the Aggies for the second year in a row.

[Taxman]

Probably left it to him in his will.
Well, at least Michigan won't have to wait quite so long to hire their new coach now.:lol:

[Taxman]

LSU's looked like complete shit since the VA Tech game.Fixed that for you.

[Taxman]

This is huge.. Fucking huge now.Meh, it was huge before. If the winner were able to win the Big XII championship they were going to The Bowl With No Name regardless.

[Jew Mafia]

Meh, it was huge before. If the winner were able to win the Big XII championship they were going to The Bowl With No Name regardless.

Mostly true. But if LSU had won this game, tomorrow night would have been for #2, now it's for #1.

[Taxman]

Mostly true. But if LSU had won this game, tomorrow night would have been for #2, now it's for #1.Irrelevant; the team still has to win its games. This has no effect on their chances of winning the "national championship", at least not in my opinion.

[James Patrick]

Well, at least Michigan won't have to wait quite so long to hire their new coach now.

I think he's a good coach, but if you look at he failed to produce with maybe the best players in the nation. That team rarely looked as good as they should have.

[James Patrick]

Irrelevant; the team still has to win its games. This has no effect on their chances of winning the "national championship", at least not in my opinion.

You're right. either one of those teams has to win out. that team goes the other team doesn't. Whoever wins will either be #1 (if it's kansas) or #2 (If it's Missourie) and play for the NC and obviously the winner, 1 or 2, wins it all.

[bartleby]

I think he's a good coach, but if you look at he failed to produce with maybe the best players in the nation. That team rarely looked as good as they should have.

True, but it's still a step up for Michigan. I can't imagine he's not their top choice—and only choice if I doesn't turn them down.

[Jew Mafia]

Irrelevant; the team still has to win its games. This has no effect on their chances of winning the "national championship", at least not in my opinion.

I think you're missing my point a bit. What's changed is the hype. Media and fan wise, it's going to be a bit bigger now. An I agree this changes nothing for Kansas, I think it might help MU a bit since they still need a bit of a bump in the media's eyes over WVU.

[Taxman]

True, but it's still a step up for Michigan. I can't imagine he's not their top choice—and only choice if I doesn't turn them down.It seems he is barely capable of talking about Michigan without crying. It is hard to imagine him turning them down.

[James Patrick]

Here's how it breaks down now for the National Championshiop the way I see it. I know some of these are obvious, but for the casual watcher it may help. And correct me if I'm wrong.

KANSAS controls their destiny, but it won't be easy, having to have to beat TWO top 10 teams to get there -- Missouri and Oklahoma. A Kansas vs Oklahoma game or a Missouri vs Oklahoma game goes either way.

MISSOURI is in exactly the same position.

WEST VIRGINIA wins out and they're in with either Missouri o Kansas falling tomorrow. Biggest test is Uconn tomorrow. Keep in mind West VIrginia are notorious chokers if you follow them or live in an area that follows them. THey have a hard time winning big games. HOwever, they don't have the test the Kansas and Missouri will have. All indication is that WVU will go to the title game.

Ohio State is sitting nicely in the clubhouse. Any loss by the winner of the Missouri vs Kansas or by West Virginia and they should be in. It would be hard for anyone to jump them since Arizona State has now lost and Georgia, despite possibly beating a LSU team at the end of the season, has two losses -- and I"m not sure they can jump a one loss team.

Everyone else is at 2 losses and pretty much out of it.

My prediction is Kansas or Missouri will fall to Oklahoma and the title game will be
WVU vs OSU.

[Jew Mafia]

As a diehard MU fan, I'd rather see KU go to the title game than OSU.

[JoeE]

Ohio State is sitting nicely in the clubhouse. Any loss by the winner of the Missouri vs Kansas or by West Virginia and they should be in. It would be hard for anyone to jump them since Arizona State has now lost and Georgia, despite possibly beating a LSU team at the end of the season, has two losses -- and I"m not sure they can jump a one loss team.

Kansas is the only one-loss team we could jump.

With a win over Georgia Tech, UGA is probably still the best positioned two-loss team to play for a MNC, but a lot of things need to happen. Tennessee needs to lose tomorrow, UGA needs to beat LSU in the SEC title game, the victor of the Kansas-Missouri game needs to lose to Oklahoma, and West Virginia needs to lose to Connecticut or Pittsburgh (probably the least likely event in the list). So I agree, at this point we're probably looking at OSU-WVU, which is just about the most unexciting matchup I've ever seen in a national championship.

[James Patrick]

Kansas is the only one-loss team we could jump.

With a win over Georgia Tech, UGA is probably still the best positioned two-loss team to play for a MNC, but a lot of things need to happen. Tennessee needs to lose tomorrow, UGA needs to beat LSU in the SEC title game, the victor of the Kansas-Missouri game needs to lose to Oklahoma, and West Virginia needs to lose to Connecticut or Pittsburgh (probably the least likely event in the list). So I agree, at this point we're probably looking at OSU-WVU, which is just about the most unexciting matchup I've ever seen in a national championship.

Nice thing about OSU is they're a traditional team. But WVU isn't. So combine a year where OSU survives to make the title game instead of being a powerhouse and WVU gets in and you're right. It's not good for the NCAA. Maybe that type of matchup will get them to rethink how things are done.

[Brewtown Andy]

Go Hawaii.

:)

[Taxman]

At this point Kansas could be undefeated next week and be #1. At the start of the season they were unranked. There were 48 teams getting votes in the first AP poll, so that means they were considered not better than 49th. There were a maximum of five teams ranked ahead of then which they would have the chance to play. This means that there were 44 independent variables in there. They could have played every game exactly the same, and still had no shot at the Bowl With No Name. The only team that they actually jumped due to anything other than a loss was Hawaii. It is easy to envision a scenario where they could have been two, three or four other undefeated teams, and Kansas would have been ranked last amongst them. But it would in theory be the exact same Jayhawks team. The system is total B.S.

[Brewtown Andy]

At this point Kansas could be undefeated next week and be #1. At the start of the season they were unranked. There were 48 teams getting votes in the first AP poll, so that means they were considered not better than 49th. There were a maximum of five teams ranked ahead of then which they would have the chance to play. This means that there were 44 independent variables in there. They could have played every game exactly the same, and still had no shot at the Bowl With No Name. The only team that they actually jumped due to anything other than a loss was Hawaii. It is easy to envision a scenario where they could have been two, three or four other undefeated teams, and Kansas would have been ranked last amongst them. But it would in theory be the exact same Jayhawks team. The system is total B.S.Does the problem get fixed if you eliminate preseason polls, and don't start polling til say, Sept. 15?

[Frozen Sooner]

At this point Kansas could be undefeated next week and be #1. At the start of the season they were unranked. There were 48 teams getting votes in the first AP poll, so that means they were considered not better than 49th. There were a maximum of five teams ranked ahead of then which they would have the chance to play. This means that there were 44 independent variables in there. They could have played every game exactly the same, and still had no shot at the Bowl With No Name. The only team that they actually jumped due to anything other than a loss was Hawaii. It is easy to envision a scenario where they could have been two, three or four other undefeated teams, and Kansas would have been ranked last amongst them. But it would in theory be the exact same Jayhawks team. The system is total B.S.

Yet strangely it seems to work out.

[Brewtown Andy]

Yet strangely it seems to work out.Except when it doesn't.

[Black Roman]

Oh god that was an extremely painful game to watch. I was so freakin' bummed after that loss I was THIS close to the ledge. Yesterday was NOT a good friday for me. :( Oh well. At least we still have the Sugar Bowl. :)

[bartleby]

Interim Nebraska AD Osborne fires Callahan

ESPN.com news services
Updated: November 24, 2007, 11:32 AM ET


LINCOLN, Neb. -- Bill Callahan was fired as Nebraska's coach Saturday, his four-year stay marked by the most embarrassing losses at a football program once among the mightiest in the nation.


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3125379

[Black Roman]

Wow. That sucks . . . for Callahan anyway. Of course that Colorado/Nebraska game yesterday was still one of the most interesting football games I've seen this season . . . even if it meant very little.

[bartleby]

Wow. That sucks . . . for Callahan anyway.

It's not like Callahan is getting a raw deal here. He's pretty much driven a once-proud program into the ground.