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What movie has the most unacceptable subject matters in it? What movie crosses more lines of common decency than any other? I want your opinions on the most debaucher-ized movie of all time. I’m setting the bar at Conan the Barbarian.
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Read the list of grotesque scenes from this film and see if you can beat it. By the way, I refer to Conan as “the Hero” because you must remember at all times, Conan IS the hero of this film. The hero doing unacceptable things ranks much higher than the villain doing unacceptable things. :no:
RULE- You can pick an obscure movie-- you can even pick a B movie, but keep in mind Conan was a mainstream film that was seen by millions of people. The higher the quality of the film, the more impressed we will all be by your choice. I’m talking about a mainstream movie that people actually watched without the aid of Servo and Crow.
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1- MURDER BY ANIMAL In the opening scene, a man is mauled to death by attack dogs. If you look closely... you can see Michael Vick hiding behind some bushes. Anyway, In most countries, this event is considered so horrific that the animals are immediately put to death.
2- MASS MURDER A village full of innocent people are slaughtered by horsemen. Oddly enough, the rat-catcher was the only villager to escape (he was on his honeymoon)
3-MOMMY KILLERS Good God!! A woman is murdered in front of her child! —and the child is holding her hand as her head is chopped off!! WHAT!?!!?!!
Man, that’s really, really bad. (but it's a great scene as her hand falls away from Conan’s isn't it?)
4- CHILD SLAVERY The movie does not have slavery…it has CHILD slavery. Conan ends up grinding wheat for 2 decades and this is how he gets “pumped up”.
5- MURDER FOR ENTERTAINMENT Slaves are forced to fight each other to the death as the crowds cheer. Gladitorial fighting is sure glorified in the movies these days, but this is truly the dark side of humanity—it’s utterly evil.
6- PROSTITUTION AND VOYUERISM The next debauched scene I can’t remember too clearly. Conan is in a cage (like an animal at the zoo). Then they bring him a naked woman in a robe, and he inspects her breasts like some kind of stupid ape-- she looks frightened. Then he lays her down and plows away. This was either the Hero engaged in prostitution or the hero being put to stud services. Either way, a bunch of guys are standing there watching the whole thing intently—peeping-tom debauchery!!
7- WARRIOR MANTRA The hero states that the absolute best thing in life is to hear women crying after you've killed their husbands…. Nice.
8-YUCKY SEX Conan meets a seductive woman in a hut. She has a real gross cigaretty voice— but its not too bad at first. Conan needs information, but the woman insists that he “warm himself by her fire”. So, they start doin’ the “funky chicken”, and the scene is not really that debauched UNTIL…. She throws her head back in ecstasy and starts moaning loudly with the cigar voice-- “Zamorraaaaa…Zamorraaaaa”… its really over the top.. and extraordinarily vulgar.
9 HERO COMMITS VIOLENCE TO ANIMALS— and I’m not talking about the hero killing a dangerous animal that is threatening him… or even indirect violence like a horse being shot in war. I’m talking about actual no-doubt-about-it violence on an animal. Conan PUNCHES a camel!!!!! I don’t think you guys can find ONE freakin’ movie were a camel gets punched out. Well, maybe one of Michael Vick's home movies.
11 RITUAL SACRIFICE A woman is ritually sacrificed to a giant serpent. Sick.
12 PUBLIC ACOHOLISM Okay maybe this is a minor infraction to most of us, but the scene where Conan and his chick are about to pass out and they look like they are in an quirky “upset stomach” commercial….I find this scene to be extremely glib, and considering all the grotesque scenes in this movie, trying to pull off a sight-gag just seems really evil to me.
13 GAY PRIEST/GAY BASHING Yes, there is a gay priest in Conan the Barbarian! If I recall correctly, he grazes his finger over our hero’s chest and tells him what a beautiful body he has! Then Conan lures him behind a tent and I swear to god, as Conan steps away, the priest looks at his ass! Then, behind the tent Conan smashes the priest in the balls and steals his robe. I didn’t connect the gay bashing at first, but why does Conan strike him in the genitals instead of punching him out or breaking his neck? Think about it.
14 MIND CONTROLLED SUICIDE A woman is mind controlled to commit suicide... Thulsa Doom mind controls one of his followers to jump of a 60ft cliff. For what? For the very important reason of showing his power over “the flesh”. Whatta Jerk
15 CRUCIFICTION Conan is nailed to a tree. “Contemplate this…on the Tree of Woe.”
Then he breaks a vulture’s neck with his teeth. But then again, Michael Vick does this every day for kicks.
16 CANNIBALISTIC ORGY… GAME OVER DUDES! There is a massive orgy scene near the end of this movie, and what’s on the menu? Head and hand stew—oh boy, my favorite! It tastes like a chicken's head and hands, you know? In between scenes of people bumping their uglies raw, we are shown other scenes of cooks stirring huge vats of green puss-- chock full of body parts. Eventually, Conan lifts the giant stew pot, spilling the body parts all over the palace floor. God, this movie is awesome.
17 SACRILIGE Conan curses his god-- The hero tells his god if you will not help me then go to hell. Maybe not too debauched for most of us- but if you are very religious, this is an incredibly outrageous statement.
18 TAUNTING A DYING MAN When Sven gets nailed by the wooden spike, Conan just stands there looking at him. And as you’re watching the scene, you just keep waiting for the one-liner “Looks like you got the point.” But he just stands there looking like a dumbfounded Austrian body..build… forget it.
So on top of everything else, Conan is a jerk.
19 MAKING A SPECTACLE OUT OF MURDER With most assassinations, the victim is merely stabbed or shot and the perpetrators run away. But this isn’t good enough for the director of this film. Oh no, …After hacking James Earl Jones head off in front of all his followers. Conan throws the severed head off the balcony. This is still not enough for our director… because now the head has to roll down a staircase…and of course this is a REALLY LONG staircase with something like 200 steps. The head bounces a few times if I remember correctly.
20 ARSON Well, after all this debauchery I guess it wouldn’t be complete without the hero starting a nice raging fire. Okay, okay…I know he was burning the bad guy’s temple.
THE MOST DEBAUCHED THING-- And finally, the most debauched thing about Conan the Barbarian? James Earl Jones hair!!!! :scared: :scared: :scared:
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Corey A.
08-31-2007, 11:18 AM
Conan is the shitz!!
The most social disturbing film I've seen would be:
http://www.thezreview.co.uk/posters/posterimages/k/kids.jpg
A disturbing portrayal of teenage life, AIDS, and the Kids of New York City. Controversial in its content, the film exposes the grim reality of a group of skate-boarders in the space of 24 hours. Primarily the story consists of Telly (Leo Fitzpatrick) a 17 year old slacker whose mission is to de-flower as many young girls as possible, whilst unprotected. Things turn bad when an old flame finds out she has tested positive for HIV and the only person she has had sex with is Telly. She chases through New York to find him but is too late as he has already de-flowered yet another innocent pre-teen.
SCOURGE
08-31-2007, 05:06 PM
Conan is the shitz!!
The most social disturbing film I've seen would be:
http://www.thezreview.co.uk/posters/posterimages/k/kids.jpg
A disturbing portrayal of teenage life, AIDS, and the Kids of New York City. Controversial in its content, the film exposes the grim reality of a group of skate-boarders in the space of 24 hours. Primarily the story consists of Telly (Leo Fitzpatrick) a 17 year old slacker whose mission is to de-flower as many young girls as possible, whilst unprotected. Things turn bad when an old flame finds out she has tested positive for HIV and the only person she has had sex with is Telly. She chases through New York to find him but is too late as he has already de-flowered yet another innocent pre-teen.
KIDS is a great movie. Don't forget the scene where Telly's friend (I forget, it has been a while since I have seen the movie)? has sex with Telly's ex-flame after she passes out at some party looking for Telly.
Yeah, KIDS! When I met my wife Betsy about 12 years ago, she convinced me to watch this movie. It was one of her favorites and i thought it was pretty cool. What did that kid call himself again?-- "The Virgin Surgeon!" That scene was pretty whack because you knew the girl was getting a death sentence while he was doing his thang.
There is a another scene in KIDS where a kid is doing a jig in the subway. I laughed out loud when i saw his horrible dance-- I mean he sucked so bad it beat all records. Whenever i want to annoy Betsy, I'll do that dance in front of the TV while she is trying to watch!
Anyway, i don't think this movie comes close to the most debauched movie ever! :no: Poor little Conan is like 5 years old.... and his mother's head is chopped off -- right in front of him! Then they sell the lil' tyke into slavery for 20 years, and finally force him to fight people to the death. That's just act 1!!! Although.... I'll give you a positive modifier on your selection of KIDS-- being that modern day debauchery is worse than Iron Age debauchery. I mean, we are supposed to be more civilized now, right? ....uh...right?
Conan is the shitz!!
The most social disturbing film I've seen would be:
http://www.thezreview.co.uk/posters/posterimages/k/kids.jpg
A disturbing portrayal of teenage life, AIDS, and the Kids of New York City. Controversial in its content, the film exposes the grim reality of a group of skate-boarders in the space of 24 hours. Primarily the story consists of Telly (Leo Fitzpatrick) a 17 year old slacker whose mission is to de-flower as many young girls as possible, whilst unprotected. Things turn bad when an old flame finds out she has tested positive for HIV and the only person she has had sex with is Telly. She chases through New York to find him but is too late as he has already de-flowered yet another innocent pre-teen.
Spidey616
09-02-2007, 10:23 AM
so I'm guessing you've seen Conan recently? :)
Conan is one of the few Ah-nuld movies I've never seen completely. Maybe when I was a kid and it was on TV, but I've never seen it recently, except mentioned in a segment of VH1's "I love the 80's"! Beastmaster vs. Conan, who would win?
is it safe to say that Conan is (or could be ;) in your DVD collection along with Apocolypto and LOTR trilogy, two of the bloodiest and action packed-iest films made in the last decade, greg?
Aspiring Fanatic
09-02-2007, 12:49 PM
Great subject, Greg. :) I'd have to put some more detailed thought into it, but off the top of my head I'd have to say that 'American History X' has a fair amount of debauchery. The one scene that comes to mind is the sidewalk smiley. That was just brutal! I'm glad they didn't actually show it, but the sound effects were enough. I cringe everytime I see that scene.
I'll give this some more thought and be back. :D
ClintP
09-03-2007, 03:55 PM
I would rate Pulp Fiction up there pretty high. When it came out, my mom wanted to see it based solely on the actors in it and knew nothing about it. Needless to say, we walked out within a few minutes.
Later when I was in high school, a buddy of mine had it and I finally got to watch it. I think my eyes popped out of my head a couple of times. When I watch it now on dvd, my eyes still bug out a few times, but I like it!
Spidey616
09-03-2007, 07:47 PM
I would rate Pulp Fiction up there pretty high. When it came out, my mom wanted to see it based solely on the actors in it and knew nothing about it. Needless to say, we walked out within a few minutes.
Later when I was in high school, a buddy of mine had it and I finally got to watch it. I think my eyes popped out of my head a couple of times. When I watch it now on dvd, my eyes still bug out a few times, but I like it!
sorry, but I have to respectively disagree. I think Pulp Fiction while being one of the greatest films ever made, is fairly low in ranking in the debauched movies of all time. First, the body count is fairly low when compared to other films, in fact, more people died in Woody Allen's "Bullets Over Broadway" released that same year.
Second, while there are many immoral acts commited throughout the film, ultimately, one of the major themes is about redemption and doing the right thing ex) Butch Saving Marcellus Wallace, Saving Mia Wallace, and everyone at the cafe at the end.
I could go on, but I think I'll leave it at that and see what other people say.
sketchartist '76
09-04-2007, 07:35 PM
Naw....Conan's bad I give ya that....."Ah nuld see boobs.....oh..oh"..but as far as all out sickness, disturbing images, and gore (but totally love!!). The Peter Jackson Classic......Dead Alive. Starts off with the evil monkey being caught..poor Peter getting bit...locals chop Peter bit by bit.
Then theres the poor soul RULED by his mother...who goes to the zoo..and gets bit by monkey...which she squishes. Then he locks her in then basement after she dies...becomes Zombified...then she attacks the WHOLE neighberhood...man tries to lock them all in the basement.
Then 2 zombies "bumb uglies"..and has a zombie baby...which is always abused one way or anouther.
Then theres the ending..all I can say..a house full of Zombies..and a guy with a lawnmower. GORY FUN!
Others to consider...Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things....and one I don't EVEN wanna describe...I Spit On Your Grave(Google it my friends)..and the banned America series..Faces of Death..ICK!!!
Peace!
Welcome to the boards, man! Dead Alive sounds cool! i'll have to check that out. By the way, any debauchery commited by a zombie is NOT debauchery because zombies are supposed to kill people in the first place! And any normal person who kills a zombie is not debauched either because humans are just defending themselves against those naughty zombies-- anyway, i GOTTA see that lawnmower scene you are talking about.
Faces of Death doesn't count--it's hardly a movie...just random scenes strung together. but i'd have to say that the producers of this series deserve "most debauched producers" award. Think about it--they made a film solely to profit off people's death!
Hey David-- you should post your art on my thread "post your art here". Feel free to let people take a look at your work!
Naw....Conan's bad I give ya that....."Ah nuld see boobs.....oh..oh"..but as far as all out sickness, disturbing images, and gore (but totally love!!). The Peter Jackson Classic......Dead Alive. Starts off with the evil monkey being caught..poor Peter getting bit...locals chop Peter bit by bit.
Then theres the poor soul RULED by his mother...who goes to the zoo..and gets bit by monkey...which she squishes. Then he locks her in then basement after she dies...becomes Zombified...then she attacks the WHOLE neighberhood...man tries to lock them all in the basement.
Then 2 zombies "bumb uglies"..and has a zombie baby...which is always abused one way or anouther.
Then theres the ending..all I can say..a house full of Zombies..and a guy with a lawnmower. GORY FUN!
Others to consider...Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things....and one I don't EVEN wanna describe...I Spit On Your Grave(Google it my friends)..and the banned America series..Faces of Death..ICK!!!
Peace!
Joe Kalicki
09-05-2007, 03:36 AM
I can't believe you haven't seen Dead Alive!
I can barely watch it, it's truly disgusting.
OMG!! I had two similar situations with my mother!!! When i was a little tyke, i was a big fan of Death Wish with Charles Bronson--ask me to do my awesome impersonation one day. Anyway, my mom took me to see Death Wish II (or maybe III, whats the dif?). Anyway, it was rated R, but i guess she thought it wouldn't be too bad. WRONG!!! 15 minutes into the movie, there is a graphic rape scene with 5 gang members raping Bronson's housekeeper. They showed everything and my mom turned beet red. She wanted to leave so bad but i wouldn't let her (because Bronson had not blown anybody away yet!)
The other incident happened just a month ago. My mom came over to help me watch the twins and I was ten minutes into the great movie Cape Fear. I had forgotten about some of the scenes, so I invited my mom to watch it with me. This was a tragic mistake: next thing you know, Max Cady is biting a chunk out of a lady's face. Then there is the scene where the lawyer's teenage daughter SUCKLES ROBERT DENIRO'S FINGER--WHAT?!? Then he makes out with her--WHAT!!??!! ....finally at the end he tries to rape the guy's wife....
:surrend: No more movies with mom :surrend:
I would rate Pulp Fiction up there pretty high. When it came out, my mom wanted to see it based solely on the actors in it and knew nothing about it. Needless to say, we walked out within a few minutes.
Later when I was in high school, a buddy of mine had it and I finally got to watch it. I think my eyes popped out of my head a couple of times. When I watch it now on dvd, my eyes still bug out a few times, but I like it!
I watched it about a year ago, but I pretty much know the Conan movie back and Forth! It was the very first Marvel movie (at least Marvel had the liscense at the time). I even have the Conan soundtrack... I like >gulp< classical music.:-?
hey Spidey-- have you signed up for New York Comicon yet?
so I'm guessing you've seen Conan recently? :)
Conan is one of the few Ah-nuld movies I've never seen completely. Maybe when I was a kid and it was on TV, but I've never seen it recently, except mentioned in a segment of VH1's "I love the 80's"! Beastmaster vs. Conan, who would win?
is it safe to say that Conan is (or could be ;) in your DVD collection along with Apocolypto and LOTR trilogy, two of the bloodiest and action packed-iest films made in the last decade, greg?
ClintP
09-05-2007, 06:27 AM
HA! I have another one!
A couple years ago I wanted to see the Harry Potter movie that was out or Jarhead. We were all going to go out: me, my wife, mom, dad, and my 7 year old brother. Well, nothing that i even remotely wanted to see was out except those two. My mom wanted to all go see a movie. I suggested Harry Potter since my brother was with us. For some odd reason, she refused to see it. So I was like, the only other thing I want to see is Jarhead, but Zach can't see it.
She was like, "oh, it's about the marines? We can see that one"
I tried to tell her it was not good for Zach but she really didn't want to see Potter....
Anyways, she lasted way longer than I thought she would. When the scene came up where the guy's wife mailed the movie to him and it was her getting it up the rear by the guy next door, she finally walked out with Zach. Me, my wife, and my dad stayed in our seats! It was pretty funny. I was like, "I refuse to walk out of movie I paid for because of her not wanting to see Harry Potter!" Apparently my dad was united with me. :)
OMG!! I had two similar situations with my mother!!! When i was a little tyke, i was a big fan of Death Wish with Charles Bronson--ask me to do my awesome impersonation one day. Anyway, my mom took me to see Death Wish II (or maybe III, whats the dif?). Anyway, it was rated R, but i guess she thought it wouldn't be too bad. WRONG!!! 15 minutes into the movie, there is a graphic rape scene with 5 gang members raping Bronson's housekeeper. They showed everything and my mom turned beet red. She wanted to leave so bad but i wouldn't let her (because Bronson had not blown anybody away yet!)
The other incident happened just a month ago. My mom came over to help me watch the twins and I was ten minutes into the great movie Cape Fear. I had forgotten about some of the scenes, so I invited my mom to watch it with me. This was a tragic mistake: next thing you know, Max Cady is biting a chunk out of a lady's face. Then there is the scene where the lawyer's teenage daughter SUCKLES ROBERT DENIRO'S FINGER--WHAT?!? Then he makes out with her--WHAT!!??!! ....finally at the end he tries to rape the guy's wife....
:surrend: No more movies with mom :surrend:
HEE HAW! That is too funny. You mean she sat through the part where Jake whatisface is doing the girl from behind?! I would have felt really uncomfortable in your shoes. I have to reiterate:
:surrend: no more movies with mom. :surrend:
HA! I have another one!
A couple years ago I wanted to see the Harry Potter movie that was out or Jarhead. We were all going to go out: me, my wife, mom, dad, and my 7 year old brother. Well, nothing that i even remotely wanted to see was out except those two. My mom wanted to all go see a movie. I suggested Harry Potter since my brother was with us. For some odd reason, she refused to see it. So I was like, the only other thing I want to see is Jarhead, but Zach can't see it.
She was like, "oh, it's about the marines? We can see that one"
I tried to tell her it was not good for Zach but she really didn't want to see Potter....
Anyways, she lasted way longer than I thought she would. When the scene came up where the guy's wife mailed the movie to him and it was her getting it up the rear by the guy next door, she finally walked out with Zach. Me, my wife, and my dad stayed in our seats! It was pretty funny. I was like, "I refuse to walk out of movie I paid for because of her not wanting to see Harry Potter!" Apparently my dad was united with me. :)
SCOURGE
09-05-2007, 09:40 AM
How about Kill Bill?
Spidey616
09-05-2007, 09:15 PM
The first volume of Kill Bill? Definately.
I would also add Wes Craven's 80's classic "The People Under the Stairs". Oh my God, now that's a debauched movie! Let's see, we have incest, child abuse, child endangerment, and a small boy being chased around by a creepy guy in a leather S&M suit.
I saw this almost 5-6 years ago on Sci-fi, back when they didn't have all these crappy "original" movies. And I randomly was surfing the chanels and came across the title and thought this looks interesting and I just sat there with my jaw open the whole time. Did I mention the Got Milk guy from the Aaron Burr commercial is in it as a mute man-child named Roach who lives in the walls of a house?
ClintP
09-06-2007, 06:17 AM
How about Maximum Overdrive?
Stephen King based movie that he directed himself!
It has many cars and other machines running people over, massive amounts of blood, a remote controlled car that kills a dog, a coke machine that takes out an entire little league baseball team, people crawling in piss and shit filled sewers under a truck stop, a man getting gasoline in his eyes then run over, a killer ice cream truck, a small jet that took out a school bus, and lots of death by cars and semis. Did I mention the trucks run people over?
Also, it is one movie I watched an insane amount of times growing up. Maybe that is why I am so twisted...
sketchartist '76
09-06-2007, 10:38 AM
Oh man...People Under The Stairs....forgot all about that one Spidey. It's should definately be put in the top ten. I kinda thought Hostel might be added too...I mean paying people to toture/kill other...ICK!!
Spidey616
09-07-2007, 08:46 AM
hey Spidey-- have you signed up for New York Comicon yet?
You know it Greg!!!! April can't come soon enough! I'll be sure to stop by your booth at the artists alley in order to add something to your Elektra Barbie collection ;)
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Spidey616
09-07-2007, 08:54 AM
I can't believe you haven't seen Dead Alive!
I can barely watch it, it's truly disgusting.
Let's not forget another debauched classic Peter Jackson film, "Meet the Feebles". Basically it's a perverted take on The Muppet Show with nearly all the 'puppet' characters doing something heinous or debauched. Let's see, there's nasal sex (yes NASAL SEX!), a song and dance number about sodomy, a huge massacre at the end, and a Walrus cheating on a hippo with a cat. And trust me, this is just the tip of the iceberg, you have to see it to believe it.
I saw this a few months after Return of the King came out, and thought it would interesting to see where Peter Jackson came from before making his masterpiece. After seeing it, I would never have believed the same director would later win an Oscar.
Bring her with you-- I'll sign her ass.
Anyway, I can't wait for New York either. I think I'll go sight-seeing this year a bit.
You know it Greg!!!! April can't come soon enough! I'll be sure to stop by your booth at the artists alley in order to add something to your Elektra Barbie collection ;)
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Hostel is a good one. Debauchery galore! I haven't seen People under the Stairs....I keep expecting these movies to come on the Monster Channel, but they never do....
Oh man...People Under The Stairs....forgot all about that one Spidey. It's should definately be put in the top ten. I kinda thought Hostel might be added too...I mean paying people to toture/kill other...ICK!!
noestoyaqui
09-08-2007, 12:44 AM
I just thought I'd try a debauched movie that keeps coming to my mind. Has anyone seen Rob Zombie's The Devil's Rejects? I personally didnt care for its overall quality, however, that movie was MESSED UP!!!!! The kidnappers shove a gun up that womans crotch among a few other things!!!!
ClintP
09-08-2007, 09:52 AM
What about the Saw movies? Those are some pretty fucked up movies. Each one has some freaking horrible scenes in them.
Allright! Dead Alive will be on Monster channel tonight and tomorrow afternoon-- ask and I shall receive!! Anyway, I will finally get to see this movie with my wife (she loves to watch cheesy horror films with me) and it will all be in glorious high def. I'll let you guys know what I think.
I can't believe you haven't seen Dead Alive!
I can barely watch it, it's truly disgusting.
sketchartist '76
09-12-2007, 06:51 PM
Oh sweet...cannot wait for you to see it..your wife will LOVE it then...enjoy the carnage my friend!
Spidey616
09-13-2007, 01:27 PM
Best line for not only Dead Alive, but any movie in general:
I KICK ARSE FOR THE LORD!
You'll see Greg, you'll see :-D
PS: since i know you're a fan of Peter Jackson's LOTR films and have them in your collection, see if you can spot the actors in Dead Alive that had small but noticeable roles in Jackson's masterpiece.
Hey guys....is it wrong that this movie (DEAD ALIVE) made me laugh more than it disgusted me? And trust me, it WAS disgusting. The part where the old lady's ear falls into her soup just made me crack-up, and then I couldn't stop from there on.
The monster-mom at the end was one of the nastiest monsters ever-- I enjoyed this movie alot. Thanks for the recomendation guys!
Oh sweet...cannot wait for you to see it..your wife will LOVE it then...enjoy the carnage my friend!
sketchartist '76
09-16-2007, 05:58 PM
Nah...I laughed so hard the first time....milk squirted out my nose!!!! I actually loved the zombie baby...too funny. Now..when you get time Greg..watch King Kong again..and the scene where Adrianne Brody is typing the script in the bow of the ship....checkout one the boxes when the guy walks by. There's a certain little something from Dead Alive that's in the cargo. Glad you enjoyed it!
Spidey616
09-17-2007, 01:33 PM
Though of another one, which I'm sure someone out there has probably seen: FRITZ THE CAT or almost any other theatrically released Ralph Bakshi movie for that matter. If you're expecting a nice Disney-esque talking animal movie, don't watcht this!!!!!!! In less than 1 and 1/2 hours we see an orgy in the bathroom, Fritz burning down NYU, neo-nazis, and a rape scene, just to name a few. There's a reason this was the first ever X-Rated Animated movie.
Hey Spidey,
I didn't notice any LOTR characters in Dead Alive. I could look them up on IMDB but I'm going to let you grab the glory-- who are they?
I'm sure they used the same special effects guy, right?
Greg
Spidey616
09-18-2007, 04:06 PM
OK here we go:
First Elizabeth Moody who played the "mum" had a small role in the Extended Edition as Lobelia Sackville-Baggins:
http://www.theargonath.cc/pictures/splitscreens/lsbem.jpg
Jed Brophy, who played Void aka the guy who pees on Lionel's mom's grave played 2 orcs, snaga and sharku, the latter of which rode a warg.
http://www.theargonath.cc/pictures/splitscreens/snjb.jpg
http://www.theargonath.cc/pictures/splitscreens/sjb.jpg
Harry Sinclair who briefly appeared in the first film as Isildur, king of Gondor and aragon's ancestor played roger.
http://www.theargonath.cc/pictures/splitscreens/ihs.jpg
and aside from cameos from editor Jamie Selkirk, his son, Peter Jackson's wife and co-writer Fran Walsh, and Peter Jackson himself that's about it.
PS: Did the location in the beginning look familiar? It should, it was the paths of the dead in Return of the King, or are you still watching Fellowship :)
Hey Spidey,
I didn't notice any LOTR characters in Dead Alive. I could look them up on IMDB but I'm going to let you grab the glory-- who are they?
I'm sure they used the same special effects guy, right?
Greg
Those were tough ones. When I saw the lead actor from Dead Alive, i had a thought he played the orc that says "Can we eat their legs? They're fresh.". But that's only because i remember Jackson mentioning him in the commentary. I don't think i would have ever guessed any of these actors from LOTR.
OK here we go:
First Elizabeth Moody who played the "mum" had a small role in the Extended Edition as Lobelia Sackville-Baggins:
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Jed Brophy, who played Void aka the guy who pees on Lionel's mom's grave played 2 orcs, snaga and sharku, the latter of which rode a warg.
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Harry Sinclair who briefly appeared in the first film as Isildur, king of Gondor and aragon's ancestor played roger.
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and aside from cameos from editor Jamie Selkirk, his son, Peter Jackson's wife and co-writer Fran Walsh, and Peter Jackson himself that's about it.
PS: Did the location in the beginning look familiar? It should, it was the paths of the dead in Return of the King, or are you still watching Fellowship :)
sketchartist '76
09-22-2007, 08:15 AM
Oh sweet...I knew about Jed Brophy..and Harry Sinclair...but mumm was the cratchty Lobelia Sackville Baggins!??!! Great find Spidey..that one even by passed me.
Ok..I was drawing on a pin-up last nite..and I think I might have a winner. You know those Troama Movies? Well...when I was about 12 years old..my sis and mom rented this movie called Blood Sucking Freaks. This was the absolutley the most disgusting movie I've EVER laid my eyes on. It was on one those when you was a kid....you was dared to watch it.
I don't remember all the debauchry that happened.....but the plot revovled around carnies using people as broad ville freak shows...toruring..maming, etc. And the audiences that saw it..thought it was fake...but it was real.
The one that totally stuck out in my mind was a guy that took a girl...shaved her head bald...took a power drill ...drilled a small hole in her head...put a straw in and blew bubbles with her blood. After that scene..I turned aound and walked out of the room. That was the sickest thing I've EVER scene.
I don't know if it's avaible on DVD or not..and really I don't care..because I NEVER wanna see it agian. But just thought I'd share!
Qsupreme
09-23-2007, 07:42 PM
Um, Hello, Conan was left for DEAD in that scene. Unacceptable?? What was the alternative? Have the vulture gough out his eyes?
I don't know about you guys but I get mighty hungry when I'm staked to a cross and left for dead.
What movie has the most unacceptable subject matters in it? What movie crosses more lines of common decency than any other? I want your opinions on the most debaucher-ized movie of all time. I’m setting the bar at Conan the Barbarian.
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Read the list of grotesque scenes from this film and see if you can beat it. By the way, I refer to Conan as “the Hero” because you must remember at all times, Conan IS the hero of this film. The hero doing unacceptable things ranks much higher than the villain doing unacceptable things. :no:
RULE- You can pick an obscure movie-- you can even pick a B movie, but keep in mind Conan was a mainstream film that was seen by millions of people. The higher the quality of the film, the more impressed we will all be by your choice. I’m talking about a mainstream movie that people actually watched without the aid of Servo and Crow.
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1- MURDER BY ANIMAL In the opening scene, a man is mauled to death by attack dogs. If you look closely... you can see Michael Vick hiding behind some bushes. Anyway, In most countries, this event is considered so horrific that the animals are immediately put to death.
2- MASS MURDER A village full of innocent people are slaughtered by horsemen. Oddly enough, the rat-catcher was the only villager to escape (he was on his honeymoon)
3-MOMMY KILLERS Good God!! A woman is murdered in front of her child! —and the child is holding her hand as her head is chopped off!! WHAT!?!!?!!
Man, that’s really, really bad. (but it's a great scene as her hand falls away from Conan’s isn't it?)
4- CHILD SLAVERY The movie does not have slavery…it has CHILD slavery. Conan ends up grinding wheat for 2 decades and this is how he gets “pumped up”.
5- MURDER FOR ENTERTAINMENT Slaves are forced to fight each other to the death as the crowds cheer. Gladitorial fighting is sure glorified in the movies these days, but this is truly the dark side of humanity—it’s utterly evil.
6- PROSTITUTION AND VOYUERISM The next debauched scene I can’t remember too clearly. Conan is in a cage (like an animal at the zoo). Then they bring him a naked woman in a robe, and he inspects her breasts like some kind of stupid ape-- she looks frightened. Then he lays her down and plows away. This was either the Hero engaged in prostitution or the hero being put to stud services. Either way, a bunch of guys are standing there watching the whole thing intently—peeping-tom debauchery!!
7- WARRIOR MANTRA The hero states that the absolute best thing in life is to hear women crying after you've killed their husbands…. Nice.
8-YUCKY SEX Conan meets a seductive woman in a hut. She has a real gross cigaretty voice— but its not too bad at first. Conan needs information, but the woman insists that he “warm himself by her fire”. So, they start doin’ the “funky chicken”, and the scene is not really that debauched UNTIL…. She throws her head back in ecstasy and starts moaning loudly with the cigar voice-- “Zamorraaaaa…Zamorraaaaa”… its really over the top.. and extraordinarily vulgar.
9 HERO COMMITS VIOLENCE TO ANIMALS— and I’m not talking about the hero killing a dangerous animal that is threatening him… or even indirect violence like a horse being shot in war. I’m talking about actual no-doubt-about-it violence on an animal. Conan PUNCHES a camel!!!!! I don’t think you guys can find ONE freakin’ movie were a camel gets punched out. Well, maybe one of Michael Vick's home movies.
11 RITUAL SACRIFICE A woman is ritually sacrificed to a giant serpent. Sick.
12 PUBLIC ACOHOLISM Okay maybe this is a minor infraction to most of us, but the scene where Conan and his chick are about to pass out and they look like they are in an quirky “upset stomach” commercial….I find this scene to be extremely glib, and considering all the grotesque scenes in this movie, trying to pull off a sight-gag just seems really evil to me.
13 GAY PRIEST/GAY BASHING Yes, there is a gay priest in Conan the Barbarian! If I recall correctly, he grazes his finger over our hero’s chest and tells him what a beautiful body he has! Then Conan lures him behind a tent and I swear to god, as Conan steps away, the priest looks at his ass! Then, behind the tent Conan smashes the priest in the balls and steals his robe. I didn’t connect the gay bashing at first, but why does Conan strike him in the genitals instead of punching him out or breaking his neck? Think about it.
14 MIND CONTROLLED SUICIDE A woman is mind controlled to commit suicide... Thulsa Doom mind controls one of his followers to jump of a 60ft cliff. For what? For the very important reason of showing his power over “the flesh”. Whatta Jerk
15 CRUCIFICTION Conan is nailed to a tree. “Contemplate this…on the Tree of Woe.”
Then he breaks a vulture’s neck with his teeth. But then again, Michael Vick does this every day for kicks.
16 CANNIBALISTIC ORGY… GAME OVER DUDES! There is a massive orgy scene near the end of this movie, and what’s on the menu? Head and hand stew—oh boy, my favorite! It tastes like a chicken's head and hands, you know? In between scenes of people bumping their uglies raw, we are shown other scenes of cooks stirring huge vats of green puss-- chock full of body parts. Eventually, Conan lifts the giant stew pot, spilling the body parts all over the palace floor. God, this movie is awesome.
17 SACRILIGE Conan curses his god-- The hero tells his god if you will not help me then go to hell. Maybe not too debauched for most of us- but if you are very religious, this is an incredibly outrageous statement.
18 TAUNTING A DYING MAN When Sven gets nailed by the wooden spike, Conan just stands there looking at him. And as you’re watching the scene, you just keep waiting for the one-liner “Looks like you got the point.” But he just stands there looking like a dumbfounded Austrian body..build… forget it.
So on top of everything else, Conan is a jerk.
19 MAKING A SPECTACLE OUT OF MURDER With most assassinations, the victim is merely stabbed or shot and the perpetrators run away. But this isn’t good enough for the director of this film. Oh no, …After hacking James Earl Jones head off in front of all his followers. Conan throws the severed head off the balcony. This is still not enough for our director… because now the head has to roll down a staircase…and of course this is a REALLY LONG staircase with something like 200 steps. The head bounces a few times if I remember correctly.
20 ARSON Well, after all this debauchery I guess it wouldn’t be complete without the hero starting a nice raging fire. Okay, okay…I know he was burning the bad guy’s temple.
THE MOST DEBAUCHED THING-- And finally, the most debauched thing about Conan the Barbarian? James Earl Jones hair!!!! :scared: :scared: :scared:
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"violadores infieles, deben morir ahogados en lagos de sangre, ahora sabrán porqué temen la oscuridad, ahora sabrán porqué temen la noche",
Crucifying the hero is pretty debauched... but of course they are the bad guys, so they do those kind of things. Killing the vulture is not debauched--but I threw it in so I could follow-up with my awesome Michael Vick joke!
Um, Hello, Conan was left for DEAD in that scene. Unacceptable?? What was the alternative? Have the vulture gough out his eyes?
I don't know about you guys but I get mighty hungry when I'm staked to a cross and left for dead.
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