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Ray G.
08-24-2007, 06:13 AM
It's a battle of the noir kings this round! Warren Ellis' gritty, stylized detective thriller Fell faces off against Brian Azzarello's long-running crime semi-anthology 100 Bullets! Who will outgun who?

Two comics enter! One comic leaves! You decide!

Ray G.
08-24-2007, 06:14 AM
Easiest vote of the tournament for me. I genuinely dislike Fell. I couldn't get through the first trade. I don't know what I'm missing, but I couldn't get into it at all.

100 Bullets, while I'm not caught up, is still a pretty incredible book.

Pat Loika
08-24-2007, 06:15 AM
I LOVE both books, but the huge overarching story of 100 Bullets kicks my ass. That, and Eduardo Risso's brilliant work.

P.

Sy-Klone
08-24-2007, 06:17 AM
Fell is outstanding. It's a really great recent discovery that I've made.

But I've also made another discovery recently: 100 Bullets. And though I'm only four trades in to the series, it's kicking my ass but good. I'm starting to see threads come together in a really satisfying and compelling way.

Vote: 100 Bullets.

SteveZegers
08-24-2007, 06:18 AM
Don't read either.

Humphrey_Lee
08-24-2007, 06:28 AM
Funny again how two books better that pretty much all but a half dozen of those that were chosen hit up against each other already.

Fell is a better issue to issue read, 100 Bullet's overall storyline gives the book more depth and complexity than 99% of the comics out there right now wish they had. Gotta go with the large scale storytelling.

Adrian B AWESOME
08-24-2007, 06:35 AM
Fell's good, but a horrible horrible shipping schedule has hurt it a ton.

100 Bullets, while not always being monthly, is still pretty consistent and one of the most compelling crime dramas ever written.

Easy.

Dark Sasha
08-24-2007, 06:37 AM
Fell!

Ryan F
08-24-2007, 07:36 AM
After reading the first 60+ issues, I came to truly detest 100 Bullets and Azzarello's self-conciously obtuse storytelling. Risso's great, and the early stories were very good, but I got very sick of it.

Fell is beautiful.

Master Jack Rabbitt
08-24-2007, 09:14 AM
Both books are great and I love 'em, but 100 Bullets with it's fantastic over-arching storyline takes the cake. Perhaps if Fell was a bit further along it might contend more, but as it is, there's no question in my mind which book is better.

Roman Noodles
08-24-2007, 09:15 AM
A little harder but easy nonetheless

Corey
08-24-2007, 10:44 AM
Both are worthy, but Fell really does it for me. I've got a pretty silly crush on that book, actually.

Ray G.
08-26-2007, 07:23 PM
Bump! By far the closest and least-voted on poll so far!

Humphrey_Lee
08-26-2007, 07:32 PM
Bump! By far the closest and least-voted on poll so far!

That's so sad. Both of these books are better than all but maybe five or six of all the ones that got let in.

Joe Henderson
08-26-2007, 07:32 PM
I still don't really get the hullaballoo about 100 Bullets. I've only read the first 14 issues or so, but I thought they were fairly standard stories. Fell, on the other hand, I adore.

Humphrey_Lee
08-26-2007, 07:36 PM
I still don't really get the hullaballoo about 100 Bullets. I've only read the first 14 issues or so, but I thought they were fairly standard stories. Fell, on the other hand, I adore.

It's the overarching story, which is one of the best I've read in comics period (though it's also a blessing and a curse cause it's so dense that it takes a lot to keep it all in head) and all the players that are eventually introduced. But saying you read 14 issues of it and don't get it is like saying you watched the first hour and a half of Fellowship and the Ring and don't get the big deal about why the LOTR trilogy is so hyped.

Mister Mets
08-26-2007, 07:43 PM
Fell wins hands down.

Better deal, More consistently enjoyable. And I'll take the best of Fell over the best of 100 Bullets any day (which sucks for 100 Bullets as it's had more than ten times the number of issues to top Fell.)

Joe Henderson
08-26-2007, 07:43 PM
It's the overarching story, which is one of the best I've read in comics period (though it's also a blessing and a curse cause it's so dense that it takes a lot to keep it all in head) and all the players that are eventually introduced. But saying you read 14 issues of it and don't get it is like saying you watched the first hour and a half of Fellowship and the Ring and don't get the big deal about why the LOTR trilogy is so hyped.

The problem with your analogy is that having read like three storyarcs, I've at least read enough to be pulled in if I was going to be. If you want to keep the analogy, it'd be more like watching the first movie if the series was 6 movies long instead of 3.

Since so many people adore this book (and people who's opinions I trust), I have to simply chalk this up to it being 'not for me'. Having said that, I do plan to keep reading just to find out what the mystery is, and in the hopes that I start enjoying it more.

And after the first hour and a half of Fellowship, I understood the hype already. :)

Humphrey_Lee
08-26-2007, 07:46 PM
Since so many people adore this book (and people who's opinions I trust), I have to simply chalk this up to it being 'not for me'. Having said that, I do plan to keep reading just to find out what the mystery is, and in the hopes that I start enjoying it more.



Well there you go. I personally think it just depends on your level of interest in Hard Boiled stories. If you love 'em you love this, if you don't you don't. Just the way it happens. If you don't like Noir Movies you're not gonna like Chinatown right? But it's still fucking Chinatown. Just how it works.

Joe Henderson
08-26-2007, 07:53 PM
Well there you go. I personally think it just depends on your level of interest in Hard Boiled stories. If you love 'em you love this, if you don't you don't. Just the way it happens. If you don't like Noir Movies you're not gonna like Chinatown right? But it's still fucking Chinatown. Just how it works.

I love hard boiled stories. I think it might be something to do with Azzarello's writing, which I've never responded to. I'm also not a fan of Rucka's writing, and did not like Queen and Country at all, despite all the love for it going around.

Humphrey_Lee
08-26-2007, 07:54 PM
I love hard boiled stories. I think it might be something to do with Azzarello's writing, which I've never responded to. I'm also not a fan of Rucka's writing, and did not like Queen and Country at all, despite all the love for it going around.

Maybe your brain is just broken. Or inferior. NeenerNeener!! :)

Master Jack Rabbitt
08-26-2007, 07:58 PM
I love hard boiled stories. I think it might be something to do with Azzarello's writing, which I've never responded to. I'm also not a fan of Rucka's writing, and did not like Queen and Country at all, despite all the love for it going around.

but... but.... Q&C is brilliant...

Kman00001
08-27-2007, 02:30 AM
I love both, but 100 Bullets gets my vote.

Ashwin Pande
08-27-2007, 02:38 AM
100 BULLETS BABY!!!

Fell is very good too though... but 100 Bullets has been around longer and is more of an involving story in terms of plot. Hours have been spent in speculation of what exactly is going on and what the crime of the century is.

Need 11th Trade right now!!!!

Stupid book store!! GIMME TRADE!!

Hate_Prime
08-27-2007, 09:45 AM
Fell.

100 Bullets didn't grab me.

WAKKAJAWAKKA
08-27-2007, 09:51 AM
Def 100 Bullets

Wayno.

Jef UK
08-27-2007, 09:53 AM
I enjoy Fell immensely.

I love 100 Bullets, but my heart is with Fell.

THWIP!
08-27-2007, 09:56 AM
Risso's art and Azz's writing are barnone the best in comics right now.

Ray G.
08-27-2007, 09:59 AM
This is looking like the first matchup to really go down to the wire.

Adrian B AWESOME
08-27-2007, 02:51 PM
You people are idiots.

allanpat
08-27-2007, 03:29 PM
100 Bullets is second only to Lone Wolf & Cub for the most excellent long-form story to be told in comics.

Fell, while an interesting experiment, is ultimately forgettable.

Ray G.
08-27-2007, 03:30 PM
Finally, a real squeaker. :D

THWIP!
08-27-2007, 03:31 PM
100 Bullets!

copypastepuke
08-27-2007, 03:37 PM
oh man i love them both for way different reasons.
one for its one issue stories and one for its ongoing epic.

Master Jack Rabbitt
08-27-2007, 03:37 PM
You people are idiots.

All of us? or just that 47%?

dEnny!
08-27-2007, 06:25 PM
Wow, very close. I love 100 Bullets, but I think it's gotten lost in the shuffle. I think comic fans are taking this title for granted.

Patrick J
08-27-2007, 07:52 PM
Toughest choice so far.

Fell just doesn't come out frequently enough and there's been less than 10 issues of it, these factors make it impossible in my mind for to overtake 100 Bullets; the story is a grand, sweeping epic that is brilliant on many levels. Fell has all that but its just not there on there same level as 100 Bullets just yet.

Potentially in a few years when there's been 50 issues of Fell, then maybe it would probably overtake 100 Bullets in my mind. But until then, my vote goes to 100 Bullets.

Mister Mets
08-27-2007, 08:04 PM
Glad Fell's catching up on 100 Bullets.

Master Jack Rabbitt
08-27-2007, 08:10 PM
Glad Fell's catching up on 100 Bullets.

I'm not. It's a goddamn greek tragedy. ;)

nick maynard
08-27-2007, 08:12 PM
wow, dead even. 40-40.

The Human Target
08-27-2007, 08:12 PM
I went Fell.

I love 100 Bullets and all, but my gut instinct was for FELL.

I will agree that 100 Bullets greatest downfall is Azz's storytelling is often times hard to follow, and comes off more confusing than deep or mysterious.

Icaruss
08-27-2007, 08:34 PM
Huh-Hah. I broke the tie.

I'm a tie-breaker.

ERNIE_E
08-27-2007, 08:53 PM
Wow, I don't know what to make of you people. Fell is good, but jeezus. Eduardo Risso is the best artist today. I scraped enough money to buy a page of his art each of the last two years. They are the only things I've bought at SDCC, and worth every penny saved.

There is NO ONE today who can hold a candle to his story telling ability and excitement in each and every page of 100 Bullets. Azz allows him to equally contribute to each story and those who read the title regularly knows his contributions. Azz's writing is economic, methodical, and surgical. His writing will tear you down, rip you apart, hold you to the edge, and slap your face as you beg for more.

Patricia Mulvihill is one of the best colorist in the business, and is right there with Hollingsworth, Depuy, and Lee Louridge (who was the colorist for the first year of 100 Bullets) and Fell is a mere handful of issues in while 100 Bullets has been doing this for a long time. This is a poll for Best Ongoing Series, and since 1999, 100 Bullets has earned multiple Eisner and Eisner nominations, has been the champion of crime comics in Vertigo comics, --features loads of characters to love, hate, lust, and wish we'd die so cool-- and has brought a street-level thriller that everyone can enjoy. I cannot say enough god things about this book, its creators and story.

Adrian B AWESOME
08-27-2007, 08:55 PM
There's no way in fucking hell Fell (A RHYME!!!) should be beating 100 Bullets.

8 issues that are well-written and well-drawn vs. one of the best crime comics ever?

Come on people. Just because Fell is more popular at the moment hardly makes it a better choice.

Humphrey_Lee
08-27-2007, 08:58 PM
There's no way in fucking hell Fell (A RHYME!!!) should be beating 100 Bullets.

8 issues that are well-written and well-drawn vs. one of the best crime comics ever?

Come on people. Just because Fell is more popular at the moment hardly makes it a better choice.

True, true, and true. Except, uhm, couldn't this be said exactly for ASS vs. Fables (except substitute "Fantasy" for "Crime") Mr. "ASS is the best on the market period"???

... :)

ERNIE_E
08-27-2007, 09:36 PM
There's no way in fucking hell Fell (A RHYME!!!) should be beating 100 Bullets.

8 issues that are well-written and well-drawn vs. one of the best crime comics ever?

Come on people. Just because Fell is more popular at the moment hardly makes it a better choice.

That's how most of these polls go, though. It's no surprise to me. You'd like to have better faith but fans are fickle and amused by the flashing lights.:surrend:

THWIP!
08-27-2007, 09:38 PM
What The Fuck!

dEnny!
08-28-2007, 05:33 AM
I went Fell.

I love 100 Bullets and all, but my gut instinct was for FELL.

I will agree that 100 Bullets greatest downfall is Azz's storytelling is often times hard to follow, and comes off more confusing than deep or mysterious.

You be crazy man! :crazy: See I even used the crazy emoticon to illustrate my point, hope that wasn't TOO confusing for you.

Marc Lombardi
08-28-2007, 05:43 AM
If Fell beats 100 Bullets I don't think I could take part in the rest of this sham of a tournament. For shame, all 41 of you!!!

TJordan
08-28-2007, 06:32 AM
This is like comparing apples and oranges here since the books are nothing alike, the writers are nothing alike and the artists are nothing alike. But choosing between the 2 100 Bullets is the clear winner (for me) because i love azz's dialogue...how risso rarely wastes a panel...the covers...and how much of a fucking bastard lono really is. Where with Fell, while a great book, it's really just normal run of the mill detective stories wrapped up in a weirded out town with a strange cast and while the art is great I dont feel like it really adds anything to the plot.

Roman Noodles
08-28-2007, 06:38 AM
WHOA! This is SUPER CLOSE!

ERNIE_E
08-28-2007, 06:41 AM
If Fell beats 100 Bullets I don't think I could take part in the rest of this sham of a tournament. For shame, all 41 of you!!!

I'm starting to feel the same. But this is an indie-savvy board, but not necessarily a board where a lot of people really FOLLOW books outside the mainstream. Remember a lot of people probably found the board through USM and Avengers. But I see as the years progress the heavy slant towards Marvel books being talked about here and the poo-pooing of DC, and there are days when I miss when it was just comprised of Powers readers. But hey, it's all good. Hopefully these "tournament" polls will get new readers to check some of these other titles out.

dEnny!
08-28-2007, 07:08 PM
I'm starting to feel the same. But this is an indie-savvy board, but not necessarily a board where a lot of people really FOLLOW books outside the mainstream. Remember a lot of people probably found the board through USM and Avengers. But I see as the years progress the heavy slant towards Marvel books being talked about here and the poo-pooing of DC, and there are days when I miss when it was just comprised of Powers readers. But hey, it's all good. Hopefully these "tournament" polls will get new readers to check some of these other titles out.

It's funny though, when it was the POWERS readers the guys who came up on Goldfish, Jinx, Torso, F&G were longing for days past too.

dEnny!
08-28-2007, 07:09 PM
Two excellent books, 84 amazing issues of 100 Bullets have come out, only 16 left. Honestly, I think it's bimonthly/quarterly status is hurting it, but Fell isn't monthly and has had its fair share of delays too.

Ray G.
08-28-2007, 07:28 PM
Well, I'm just glad we finally have an actual competitive round. :lol:

ERNIE_E
08-28-2007, 07:41 PM
It's funny though, when it was the POWERS readers the guys who came up on Goldfish, Jinx, Torso, F&G were longing for days past too.

Hey, I was one of those original guys...

ERNIE_E
08-28-2007, 07:47 PM
Two excellent books, 84 amazing issues of 100 Bullets have come out, only 16 left. Honestly, I think it's bimonthly/quarterly status is hurting it, but Fell isn't monthly and has had its fair share of delays too.

Well, it didn't hurt it so much that it's in this competition. I think we should stop looking at what is wrong with 100 Bullets (Which is nothing) because anyone who actually reads the book knows how good it is. It's hard for any title to hold buzz for so many years. 100 Bullets has been doing it since 1999. I think this is a classic case of one camp of people reading Fell, is not reading 100 Bullets and those who read both knows the clear difference.

dEnny!
08-28-2007, 07:56 PM
Hey, I was one of those original guys...

Whatever newbie! ;)

ERNIE_E
08-28-2007, 08:04 PM
Whatever newbie! ;)

Right back at you. Say, I've got my single issues of Goldfish and Fire to show for it. What you got?

Corey
08-28-2007, 09:37 PM
Well, it didn't hurt it so much that it's in this competition. I think we should stop looking at what is wrong with 100 Bullets (Which is nothing) because anyone who actually reads the book knows how good it is. It's hard for any title to hold buzz for so many years. 100 Bullets has been doing it since 1999. I think this is a classic case of one camp of people reading Fell, is not reading 100 Bullets and those who read both knows the clear difference.

I've read 100 Bullets and it's definitely a quality book, but Fell is more interesting to me, both artistically and format-wise. And I like that it reads episodically but still has over-arching themes and threads.

Corey
08-28-2007, 09:38 PM
Wow, dead tie right now - 44 each.

Hate_Prime
08-28-2007, 09:55 PM
Well, it didn't hurt it so much that it's in this competition. I think we should stop looking at what is wrong with 100 Bullets (Which is nothing) because anyone who actually reads the book knows how good it is. It's hard for any title to hold buzz for so many years. 100 Bullets has been doing it since 1999. I think this is a classic case of one camp of people reading Fell, is not reading 100 Bullets and those who read both knows the clear difference.

I've read both. I voted Fell.

Corey
08-28-2007, 10:06 PM
I've read both. I voted Fell.

Nice tie breaking, there!

Ryan F
08-28-2007, 10:13 PM
Go Fell!!!!

ERNIE_E
08-28-2007, 11:20 PM
I've read 100 Bullets and it's definitely a quality book, but Fell is more interesting to me, both artistically and format-wise. And I like that it reads episodically but still has over-arching themes and threads.

BAh!

ERNIE_E
08-28-2007, 11:21 PM
I've read both. I voted Fell.

double bah to you.

Ashwin Pande
08-28-2007, 11:32 PM
This is just not right. Not right at all.

Lemme wake some of the 100 Bullet fans up..

CROATOA!!!!

Go to work bitches we gotta win this one!!!

Joe Kalicki
08-28-2007, 11:39 PM
I read the first three 100 Bullets trades and it didn't exactly wow me. But I never read Fell so I'm abstaining, barring any cash incentives.

Marc Lombardi
08-29-2007, 07:39 AM
100 Bullets needs to pull this out...damn.

Master Jack Rabbitt
08-29-2007, 08:36 AM
I read the first three 100 Bullets trades and it didn't exactly wow me. But I never read Fell so I'm abstaining, barring any cash incentives.

vote 100 Bullets! Now!

Corey
08-29-2007, 10:41 AM
I read the first three 100 Bullets trades and it didn't exactly wow me. But I never read Fell so I'm abstaining, barring any cash incentives.

I'll give you a dollar to vote for Fell.

One whole American dollar.

Master Jack Rabbitt
08-29-2007, 10:42 AM
I'll give you a dollar to vote for Fell.

One whole American dollar.

I'll double that for 100 Bullets!

Ray G.
08-30-2007, 04:32 AM
24 hours left in this one.

Master Jack Rabbitt
08-30-2007, 08:33 AM
Ack! C'mon 100 Bullets!

Corey
08-30-2007, 12:50 PM
Tied once again!

Mister Mets
08-30-2007, 12:51 PM
C'mon, someone. Vote for Fell, and end this vicious tie.

Master Jack Rabbitt
08-30-2007, 12:51 PM
C'mon, 100 Bullets!

Mister Mets
08-30-2007, 12:51 PM
I'll give you a dollar to vote for Fell.

One whole American dollar.

I'll add a dollar so Joe can go to a comic book store, and buy an issue.

Actually, if anyone wants the first issue is available free online.
http://www.newsarama.com/ImageComics/Fell/Fell01Issue.htm

You'll have to take my word that it's not the best (those would be the smoke babies story from Issue 2, and the night in the life from Issue 8.)

Ashwin Pande
08-30-2007, 01:28 PM
sigh

Jef UK
08-30-2007, 01:30 PM
wow, dead even. 40-40.

I know! It's kind of cool. Best match-up yet!

Master Jack Rabbitt
08-30-2007, 01:31 PM
oh, c'mon, people!

Master Jack Rabbitt
08-30-2007, 02:01 PM
Yes! 100 Bullets in the lead!

Roman Noodles
08-30-2007, 02:08 PM
Wow!!! This Is Sooooo Close!

Ray G.
08-30-2007, 02:49 PM
Finally, the natural order is restored. Now we just need this to hold until tomorrow. :)

Master Jack Rabbitt
08-30-2007, 02:56 PM
Finally, the natural order is restored. Now we just need this to hold until tomorrow. :)

Indeed.

Corey
08-30-2007, 03:53 PM
Don't hold, don't hold!

Jacob Lyon Goddard
08-30-2007, 04:15 PM
i love 100 Bullets
probably the best thing DC does
and probably the best crime comic out now (though i have yet to pick up Criminal, just haven't been to a comic shop in forever)


but you know what, i haven't read Fell, so i'm not going to vote, even though i'm positive i'd enjoy it less than 100 Bullets

because i'm not an asshole


EDIT
in this matter, anyway

ERNIE_E
08-30-2007, 04:58 PM
Anyone on the fence should pick up 100 Bullets #84 which is pretty much a stand-alone issue, or at least as good as we'll get this late in the series, and it came out a few months ago and is possibly the best thing I've read in three months. Now there are a lot that's right there with it (Powers & Criminal, Ex Machina...), but after reading this it still has me all shook up. That's 84 issues in folks. I wish all books were this good 7 years in.

Marc Lombardi
08-31-2007, 07:04 AM
Anyone on the fence should pick up 100 Bullets #84 which is pretty much a stand-alone issue, or at least as good as we'll get this late in the series, and it came out a few months ago and is possibly the best thing I've read in three months. Now there are a lot that's right there with it (Powers & Criminal, Ex Machina...), but after reading this it still has me all shook up. That's 84 issues in folks. I wish all books were this good 7 years in.

The Joe DiMaggio issue was also one of the best stand-alone issues of a comic I've ever read.

And the storyline with Wylie in New Orleans was friggin heartbreaking man. How anyone can read the end of that last issue and not want to drown in sorrow is beyond me.

Boris the Blade
08-31-2007, 07:27 AM
The problem with your analogy is that having read like three storyarcs, I've at least read enough to be pulled in if I was going to be. If you want to keep the analogy, it'd be more like watching the first movie if the series was 6 movies long instead of 3.

Since so many people adore this book (and people who's opinions I trust), I have to simply chalk this up to it being 'not for me'. Having said that, I do plan to keep reading just to find out what the mystery is, and in the hopes that I start enjoying it more.

And after the first hour and a half of Fellowship, I understood the hype already. :)
With 100 Bullets, trade 4 is where the whole scope of things really starts to kick in, and it changes from these smaller morality tales to a crime epic.

THWIP!
08-31-2007, 07:37 AM
Fuckin A!

Fygar
08-31-2007, 07:41 AM
I missed this poll, but I'm extremely happy to see 100 Bullets win a close race. I just read the Fell trade and loved it, but 100 Bullets might be my favorite comic series of all time.

Kman00001
08-31-2007, 07:51 AM
With 100 Bullets, trade 4 is where the whole scope of things really starts to kick in, and it changes from these smaller morality tales to a crime epic.

Indeed. The seeds get planted in trade 2 when Branch and Dizzy meet up, but trade 4 is when things really start to come together and it becomes more than some dude handing out briefcases.

Master Jack Rabbitt
08-31-2007, 07:55 AM
:rock:

Pat Loika
08-31-2007, 08:04 AM
Hell yes.

Ashwin Pande
08-31-2007, 09:53 AM
damn... one more vote and it would have been a total of 100 votes...

but i'm glad the better series won...

I like Fell but come on... 100B is 100B...

Corey
08-31-2007, 10:23 AM
This was the best one so far! Even though I prefer Fell, 100 Bullets totally deserved to win.

ERNIE_E
09-01-2007, 08:13 AM
Indeed. The seeds get planted in trade 2 when Branch and Dizzy meet up, but trade 4 is when things really start to come together and it becomes more than some dude handing out briefcases.

Yes, the briefcases morality stories are the hook. "You're so ballsy in saying you'd do this and that if you knew who put you in this shitty situation. Well, here's the chance to do it without repercussion." Now there's different ways to go about that scenario. Some people would walk the walk and talk the talk, some would back out. But the whole series isn't that, and the beauty of it is just how big and grand the story opens up. You got back to read the earlier trades and see how the seeds were planted and how just a random scene connects to another story.

All of the "in-scene" stories that have no words Risso puts in himself. The orderly fucking the nurse in issue #26, the street kids about to torture the cat, all of that, Azzarello leaves for Risso to do. One trusts the other and there's no team in the business who work this well. It's not bullshit when you hear people say that Risso's a modern day Eisner to comparable. You can practically see the entire story unfold due to his art. It's just a special crime book.

I have to admit Joe Henderson, if you're not hooked in by three trades, then I agree, 100 Bullets is not for you. Simply put, and there are a lot of other good titles out there to try instead, but I admire you checking it out.

The way the seedings go, if 100 Bullets meets up with a Bendis book, forget it, game over. But I'm glad some people came to their sense and pushed this one over.

Roman Noodles
09-01-2007, 08:13 AM
YES! 100 Bullets!

Adrian B AWESOME
09-01-2007, 06:17 PM
Hell, read The Counterfifth Detective, which works both as a part of the plot AND as a standalone story, and say that 100 Bullets isn't one of the top 10 books out today.

NickT
09-01-2007, 06:20 PM
I never got into 100B. Some arcs really did it for me, but others did nothing. Which trade would be best to try IYO, keeping in mind I have read the first one.

YouStayClassy
09-01-2007, 06:21 PM
I never got into 100B. Some arcs really did it for me, but others did nothing. Which trade would be best to try IYO, keeping in mind I have read the first one.

The Counterfifth Detective.

Adrian B AWESOME
09-01-2007, 06:23 PM
I never got into 100B. Some arcs really did it for me, but others did nothing. Which trade would be best to try IYO, keeping in mind I have read the first one.

What he said. Book 5, The Counterfifth Detective, is one of my favorite crime tales ever and totally adds to the whole of 100 Bullets but can definately be read as a stand alone story.

NickT
09-01-2007, 06:35 PM
The Counterfifth Detective.


What he said. Book 5, The Counterfifth Detective, is one of my favorite crime tales ever and totally adds to the whole of 100 Bullets but can definately be read as a stand alone story.
I'll try and pick that up then.

YouStayClassy
09-01-2007, 06:36 PM
I'll try and pick that up then.

If you even remotely are interested in the genre, it's a very safe bet you will love it.

NickT
09-01-2007, 06:39 PM
If you even remotely are interested in the genre, it's a very safe bet you will love it.
Which genre, the people with exactly 100 bullets one? ;)

YouStayClassy
09-01-2007, 06:40 PM
Which genre, the people with exactly 100 bullets one? ;)

The people with 83-100 bullets genre. If you're into the people with 56 bullets genre, don't even waste your time on that rubbish.

NickT
09-01-2007, 06:45 PM
The people with 83-100 bullets genre. If you're into the people with 56 bullets genre, don't even waste your time on that rubbish.
:lol:


I'm a bit hit and miss with Azzarello. He's a good writer, it's just his style doesn't always do it for me. Jonny Double was good, for another book he has done, but his work is so miserable :)

YouStayClassy
09-01-2007, 06:49 PM
:lol:


I'm a bit hit and miss with Azzarello. He's a good writer, it's just his style doesn't always do it for me. Jonny Double was good, for another book he has done, but his work is so miserable :)
I hear ya on the hit or miss, but 100 Bullets is way more hit than miss IMO.

Did you ever read his Hellblazer run? I thought he did some amazing work there, with the only miss being the bizarre endings to two of the arcs he did.

NickT
09-01-2007, 06:51 PM
I hear ya on the hit or miss, but 100 Bullets is way more hit than miss IMO.

Did you ever read his Hellblazer run? I thought he did some amazing work there, with the only miss being the bizarre endings to two of the arcs he did.
I read bits. The arc in the snow I really liked.

Ray G.
09-01-2007, 06:52 PM
The bad news is, this extremely tight matchup means that 100 Bullets will almost definitely draw #1 seeded USM next round...

Master Jack Rabbitt
09-01-2007, 06:54 PM
The bad news is, this extremely tight matchup means that 100 Bullets will almost definitely draw #1 seeded USM next round...

Well, honestly, I think I'll likely vote 100 Bullets over USM, should it come to that.

Taxman
09-01-2007, 06:54 PM
The bad news is, this extremely tight matchup means that 100 Bullets will almost definitely draw #1 seeded USM next round...Bah . . . what kind of show are you running here anyway?

Seedings should have been predetermined.

Ray G.
09-01-2007, 06:59 PM
Bah . . . what kind of show are you running here anyway?

Seedings should have been predetermined.

Something's got to face USM. ;)

Without a formal tournament bracket like the NCAA, the best way to do it seems to be to seed each round based on performance.

ERNIE_E
09-01-2007, 11:10 PM
:lol:


I'm a bit hit and miss with Azzarello. He's a good writer, it's just his style doesn't always do it for me. Jonny Double was good, for another book he has done, but his work is so miserable :)


His Lex Luthor Mini-series was one of the best things I've ever read in the Superman lore. He totally understood who luthor was and what he was about.

While some people don't like his style, I loved his Cage and Banner mini-series, really enjoy Loveless and his El Diablo was a good ghost/western/noir.

ERNIE_E
09-01-2007, 11:13 PM
Something's got to face USM. ;)

Without a formal tournament bracket like the NCAA, the best way to do it seems to be to seed each round based on performance.

Double Bah to you. I think series that have been out the longest should get the higher seeds. Stuff that doesn't even have a full year under its belt should go up against the longest running series. Did we forget the whole Ongoing aspect of this thing? Something should be said about not only how good these titles are that have reached this far, but also the length at which they have been enjoyed.

Ray G.
09-02-2007, 05:06 AM
Double Bah to you. I think series that have been out the longest should get the higher seeds. Stuff that doesn't even have a full year under its belt should go up against the longest running series. Did we forget the whole Ongoing aspect of this thing? Something should be said about not only how good these titles are that have reached this far, but also the length at which they have been enjoyed.

I really doubt anyone here would want me to give Criminal a #16 seed just based on when it was created. :lol:

That does factor into how I vote, though. Longevity(USM, Fables, 100 Bullets) will get many points from me, but I feel performance is the fairest way to do seeding.

ERNIE_E
09-02-2007, 08:33 AM
I really doubt anyone here would want me to give Criminal a #16 seed just based on when it was created. :lol:

That does factor into how I vote, though. Longevity(USM, Fables, 100 Bullets) will get many points from me, but I feel performance is the fairest way to do seeding.

Why not? Well if you're playing to the favorites well then the whole thing is shaky. Performance is based on what a majority of the people here support as seen by the amount of Bendis and Bru books still on the table. Of which I agree all deserve to be in the top 12.

I understand that no system is a good system but this is looking close like a Wizard poll before too long. But it is what it is.

Taxman
09-02-2007, 12:27 PM
I really doubt anyone here would want me to give Criminal a #16 seed just based on when it was created. :lol:

That does factor into how I vote, though. Longevity(USM, Fables, 100 Bullets) will get many points from me, but I feel performance is the fairest way to do seeding.I think Criminal could hold it's own against a lot of old-timers on this board.

Ray G.
09-02-2007, 12:29 PM
I think Criminal could hold it's own against a lot of old-timers on this board.

It very well might.

However, this system would have likely ensured it drew USM this past round.

Taxman
09-02-2007, 12:34 PM
It very well might.

However, this system would have likely ensured it drew USM this past round.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/glima/2006%20Awards/FavoriteCreator.gif

How many Maloofys has BENDIS! ever won? :p