Ray's Official DCU Megathread the 3rd: Countdown Edition - Now on Earth-OOMPH!

[Deej]

I say bring back Barry! Bring him back! The DCU needs him!

WHY??? They've done well without him for the last 20 years.

[lonesomefool]

That's a really silly argument. You'd buy a series by Brian K Vaughan cause you've read his previous work and enjoyed it. Something that he has written captured your attention enough to go out and purchase it. So far none of those titles that has been mentioned have interested me at all.

Let me put it to you this way...have you read The Losers by Diggle?? Probably not...and how come?? He's an excellent writer...I expect you to go pick up the first trade.

I'm with you on this one, I like Sean's writing, but outside of Gravity and Inhumans, I cant think of one project he has done at Marvel that really interested me. Sentinal and Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane, just were/are not up my alley. I think buying for the writer is great, I do it on a lot of books, but it doesnt work on every book.

[SteveZegers]

My guess is we woudnt even be talking about Barry if Bart's book had taken off sales wise, it's been losing readers every month, even AFTER Guggenheim took over.

I think once Wally was gone, the door for Barry was open. We won't have both of them at the same time, and it will shift around. The thing is, with the Flash, this sort of stuff is established. If it's done well, I'm all for it.

[lonesomefool]

I think once Wally was gone, the door for Barry was open. We won't have both of them at the same time, and it will shift around. The thing is, with the Flash, this sort of stuff is established. If it's done well, I'm all for it.

The thing that concerns me about it, is that, I think it could hurt Bart as Flash. I'm not a huge Bart fan, I would still prefer Wally, but I cant help, but think that Wally was able to be seen by the readers as Flash, because Barry wasnt around.

[SteveZegers]

The thing that concerns me about it, is that, I think it could hurt Bart as Flash. I'm not a huge Bart fan, I would still prefer Wally, but I cant help, but think that Wally was able to be seen by the readers as Flash, because Barry wasnt around.

Sure. The problem is, no one sees Bart as the Flash now. He didn't earn it and get there like Wally did. It was just forced on him. Going so far as to age him just to jam him into the role.

[Deej]

Sure. The problem is, no one sees Bart as the Flash now. He didn't earn it and get there like Wally did. It was just forced on him. Going so far as to age him just to jam him into the role.

It just makes me sad how DC ruined a few of their characters during Infinite Crisis. Wally didn't even get a good send-off.

[lonesomefool]

Sure. The problem is, no one sees Bart as the Flash now. He didn't earn it and get there like Wally did. It was just forced on him. Going so far as to age him just to jam him into the role.

Agreed, but I cant help, but feel that some people were saying the same thing when Wally took over, but DC stuck with Wally, and over time people started to see him as the Flash, and got over it. Of course, Bart could become the next Kyle Raynor.

[The Doctor]

I still think its Slott and Wieringo.
That would be awesome but that sounds like a team more suited to Friendly.

The fuck? Why do two separate FF: The End projects? And so close to eachother (publication date wise)?
He End books aren't really in continuity so you can do as many as you like. Some might say that Spider-man: Reign was a The End book.

Since me, Jack, and Baird started the derailing;)
Ahem

[Deej]

Agreed, but I cant help, but feel that some people were saying the same thing when Wally took over, but DC stuck with Wally, and over time people started to see him as the Flash, and got over it. Of course, Bart could become the next Kyle Raynor.

I think the big difference is that Wally had years of training under Barry. Well...that plus Bart was really a great character and had pretty much just undergone a growth to be Kid Flash. Things moved way too quickly for Bart to thrust him into the Flash role.

[lonesomefool]

It just makes me sad how DC ruined a few of their characters during Infinite Crisis. Wally didn't even get a good send-off.

That's because DC didnt plan it out well at all. Didio just assumed that because a Crisis was going on, a Flash had to die, rather than thinking "Ok, this is a natural story progression, and a good way for Wally to go out", it was "Ok, Wally needs to go away, make it happen".

[SteveZegers]

It just makes me sad how DC ruined a few of their characters during Infinite Crisis. Wally didn't even get a good send-off.

This is the second worst thing to come out of this whole storyline. (The worst being what happened to poor little Billy Batson!)

[SteveZegers]

I think the big difference is that Wally had years of training under Barry. Well...that plus Bart was really a great character and had pretty much just undergone a growth to be Kid Flash. Things moved way too quickly for Bart to thrust him into the Flash role.

Yeah, Wally had been around for a really long time. He earned it more than Bart. And Barry's sacrifice was huge. It was the brutal "on camera" death, not like the vague disappearence Wally got.

[Deej]

Yeah, Wally had been around for a really long time. He earned it more than Bart. And Barry's sacrifice was huge. It was the brutal "on camera" death, not like the vague disappearence Wally got.

what do you think was gong through didio's head when he was coming up with Infinite Crisis?

[The Doctor]

what do you think was gong through didio's head when he was coming up with Infinite Crisis?

We need market share and fast.

[SteveZegers]

what do you think was gong through didio's head when he was coming up with Infinite Crisis?

In this case, no idea. I liked most of the story, but some of these things just don't make any sense to me at all.

[lonesomefool]

In this case, no idea. I liked most of the story, but some of these things just don't make any sense to me at all.

Because it was done for sales, as The Doctor, pointed out, DC was struggling for sales, and Didio saw a fast fix to get them back in competition with Marvel. That's why we are about to have another Crisis in a year, it's an easy way for DC to move copies of their books.

[SteveZegers]

Because it was done for sales, as The Doctor, pointed out, DC was struggling for sales, and Didio saw a fast fix to get them back in competition with Marvel. That's why we are about to have another Crisis in a year, it's an easy way for DC to move copies of their books.

Sales are fine, but some of these are just odd "if it ain't broke don't fix it" decisions. The Flash was fine, Martian Manhunter was fine, Billy Batson was fine, etc...

No reason to be changing all this stuff. Just tell good stories! That's what they were doing with the Flash.

[The Doctor]

Sales are fine, but some of these are just odd "if it ain't broke don't fix it" decisions. The Flash was fine, Martian Manhunter was fine, Billy Batson was fine, etc...

No reason to be changing all this stuff. Just tell good stories! That's what they were doing with the Flash.

Don't worry next crises they'll be put back.

[Deej]

Don't worry next crises they'll be put back.

I think another Crisis and more than a few people will jump ship.

[SteveZegers]

I think another Crisis and more than a few people will jump ship.

It's not a Crisis, It's a Great Disaster! That's better!

[Ray G.]

But I think everyone is missing the point. None of the characters that McKeever has written have interested me in the slightest. So how the hell am I supposed to know if he's a good writer or not?? If his Countdown and Teen Titans books are good, then maybe I'll go back and read his other work.

Gravity and Sentinel are all new characters. When you read the story, you'll like them.

[Ray G.]

Ooh, McKeever's interview is up on Newsarama! I'm on a crappy computer right now, so I can't post it, but go and read it!

Oh, and it seems Ale Garza is the new artist. Much better!

[SteveZegers]

More Titans stuff! Team revealed!

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=112693

I like! Really glad Kid Devil is sticking around. I like him.

[John Drake]

Cool.

Oh, after seeing Andy Kubert's cover to Countdown #51, I want him to draw either Hawkman or Green Lantern.

[SteveZegers]

Oh, and it seems Ale Garza is the new artist. Much better!


Yeah, I really like his work. Great energy to it.

[lonesomefool]

Still not crazy about the artist, but Garza is a step-up from Green.

[John Drake]

Man...I don't like the series that much, but that's a kickass Blue Beetle right there.

[Ray G.]

Man...I don't like the series that much, but that's a kickass Blue Beetle right there.

I am soooooooo happy he's getting a bigger profile. I don't think I could possibly like this lineup more. Well, if Anarky, Arrowette, or Spoiler was there, maybe. But still.

I wonder, is this the first superhero team(excluding BoP) to have a majority-female cast?

[John Drake]

I am soooooooo happy he's getting a bigger profile. I don't think I could possibly like this lineup more. Well, if Anarky, Arrowette, or Spoiler was there, maybe. But still.

I wonder, is this the first superhero team(excluding BoP) to have a majority-female cast?

And the funny thing is all three male characters are kinda shy/quirky :lol:

[Ray G.]

And the funny thing is all three male characters are kinda shy/quirky :lol:

And three of the girls are superstrong bombshells, with a sword-swinging femme fatale rounding it out.

Those guys are not going to know what hit them. :lol:

[SteveZegers]

And we're getting some kind of "20-ish Titans" too right?

[Ray G.]

And we're getting some kind of "20-ish Titans" too right?

Seems likely. With token teen Raven. Although depending on the writer, they may choose to forget all about her being deaged.

[Deej]

Gravity and Sentinel are all new characters. When you read the story, you'll like them.

:frustrat: That's like McKeever writing an Anarky miniseries. People like him as a writer...but who the hell wants to read about Anarky?

[Ray G.]

:frustrat: That's like McKeever writing an Anarky miniseries. People like him as a writer...but who the hell wants to read about Anarky?

Damn it, now you've got me thinking about how awesome a McKeever Anarky miniseries would be. :mad:

[SteveZegers]

:frustrat: That's like McKeever writing an Anarky miniseries. People like him as a writer...but who the hell wants to read about Anarky?

I do! I do!

[Deej]

More Titans stuff! Team revealed!

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=112693

I like! Really glad Kid Devil is sticking around. I like him.

I thought this was all revealed yesterday in another thread. I was hoping for another character or two...but it sounds good!

[Deej]

Damn it, now you've got me thinking about how awesome a McKeever Anarky miniseries would be. :mad:

I guess you'll be leaving the room for a few minutes while you indulge in this fantasy! Remember to clean up when you're done!

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

More Titans stuff! Team revealed!

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=112693

I like! Really glad Kid Devil is sticking around. I like him.

:rock:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

:frustrat: That's like McKeever writing an Anarky miniseries. People like him as a writer...but who the hell wants to read about Anarky?

*raises hand*

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

And we're getting some kind of "20-ish Titans" too right?

*crosses fingers*

[SteveZegers]

*raises hand*

You don't have to say that just to make Ray happy. Show some backbone!

[Foggy's Pal]

You all seem very excited about McKeever. How would you describe his writing and what makes his writing so strong? The new team seems very exciting, but why should Mckeever draw me in.

[Deej]

*raises hand*

So if there are so many suck asses...I mean followers of McKeever...they should just put him on Aquaman. Let those sales soar...

[twigglet]

I'm going to try and get into DC.

Booster Gold and Teen Titans are going to be my first books.

[SteveZegers]

You all seem very excited about McKeever. How would you describe his writing and what makes his writing so strong? The new team seems very exciting, but why should Mckeever draw me in.

He's just really great at the stuff that gets ignored, the character stuff. Their voices, that kind of stuff. He's a great story-teller.

[John Drake]

And three of the girls are superstrong bombshells, with a sword-swinging femme fatale rounding it out.

Those guys are not going to know what hit them. :lol:

:lol:

[John Drake]

:frustrat: That's like McKeever writing an Anarky miniseries. People like him as a writer...but who the hell wants to read about Anarky?

Read Gravity, man. It's like 8 bucks. You'll probably enjoy it.

[Deej]

Read Gravity, man. It's like 8 bucks. You'll probably enjoy it.

Possibly...but not interested in the character. I don't even know who the heck it is or even what company published this.

[SteveZegers]

Possibly...but not interested in the character. I don't even know who the heck it is or even what company published this.

It's onea them little Marvel digest books, and it really is good stuff. It's a nice take on the whole "rookie hero in the big city" type story. Nice art, and the story is just told really well.

[John Drake]

Possibly...but not interested in the character. I don't even know who the heck it is or even what company published this.

Marvel. The costume is cool :D

And it has elements of what made early Spider-Man stories so good.

[SteveZegers]

Marvel. The costume is cool :D

And it has elements of what made early Spider-Man stories so good.

I also like the powers. They're interesting, and he uses them in some pretty cool ways.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

You don't have to say that just to make Ray happy. Show some backbone!

But I like Anarky...

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

So if there are so many suck asses...I mean followers of McKeever...they should just put him on Aquaman. Let those sales soar...

Dude, fuck Aquaman. I actually do like the character of Anarky.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Marvel. The costume is cool :D

And it has elements of what made early Spider-Man stories so good.

Exactly. I love Gravity.

[SteveZegers]

Dude, fuck Aquaman. I actually do like the character of Anarky.

Ray got to Rabbit! He did something to his bunny mind! Be careful everyone, or he'll do it to you!

[Deej]

Dude, fuck Aquaman. I actually do like the character of Anarky.

You just proved my point that you don't just go for writers...has to be a character you like too. Thanks Sucker!

[THAT Sean!]

Since someone's bound to say it, I want to be the first:

OMG! McKeever's totally New Avengers-ing the Teen Titans!

[Foggy's Pal]

You just proved my point that you don't just go for writers...has to be a character you like too. Thanks Sucker!

Have to disagree, (respectfully of course:cool: ) I hated Booster Gold, but thanks to some dandy writing in 52 I am now excited to pick up the Booster ongoing. That's right; I said dandy.

[Foggy's Pal]

Since someone's bound to say it, I want to be the first:

OMG! McKeever's totally New Avengers-ing the Teen Titans!

In most of our books, that would be a positive.

[SteveZegers]

Since someone's bound to say it, I want to be the first:

OMG! McKeever's totally New Avengers-ing the Teen Titans!

So it's not really Tim Drake in the Robin costume? Oh crap, now we have to figure this one out too?

[Deej]

Have to disagree, (respectfully of course:cool: ) I hated Booster Gold, but thanks to some dandy writing in 52 I am now excited to pick up the Booster ongoing. That's right; I said dandy.

Because you like the character of Booster Gold now. That's all there is to it.

[Deej]

Since someone's bound to say it, I want to be the first:

OMG! McKeever's totally New Avengers-ing the Teen Titans!

Will the Wonder Twins still show up in Titans Tower?

[John Drake]

Because you like the character of Booster Gold now. That's all there is to it.

noo

[Deej]

noo

So he's buying a title in which he hates the main character??? :nonono2:

I think you're fooling yourself here...

[SteveZegers]

Will the Wonder Twins still show up in Titans Tower?

They damn well better. Gleek too.

[Deej]

They damn well better. Gleek too.

But I guess they need a butler too. And Speedy should come back...but that means she's gotta die. Yes...like that!

[John Drake]

So he's buying a title in which he hates the main character??? :nonono2:

I think you're fooling yourself here...

the writer makes you like him.

[Deej]

the writer makes you like him.

And I say that's BS. If he decided to write Aquaman, I'd say more than half the people here who are singing him praises wouldn't pick up the title...because they don't like Aquaman.

[The Doctor]

Have to disagree, (respectfully of course:cool: ) I hated Booster Gold, but thanks to some dandy writing in 52 I am now excited to pick up the Booster ongoing. That's right; I said dandy.
I'm Booster Gold:(

And I say that's BS. If he decided to write Aquaman, I'd say more than half the people here who are singing him praises wouldn't pick up the title...because they don't like Aquaman.

That's very close to my line of thinking.

[Matt O'Keefe]

I think another Crisis and more than a few people will jump ship.

I'll call off any event books for sure, but I'll continue buying the stand alone stories like Detective Comics and The Spirit.

[Foggy's Pal]

And I say that's BS. If he decided to write Aquaman, I'd say more than half the people here who are singing him praises wouldn't pick up the title...because they don't like Aquaman.

Must disagree again. My friend hates Aquaman, but picked it up because Tad Williams was writing it. Authors can make you like the character. When I didn't like Booster, it was the version of Booster that the author wrote that I didn't like. I think Waid wrote the Booster stuff in 52- I loved that Booster. If my only knowledge of Spiderman was Amazing and Ultimate, I would love the Bendis Spidey and hate Amazing. For me, a writer can make me love or hate a character.

[bairdduvessa]

your moms

[Deej]

Must disagree again. My friend hates Aquaman, but picked it up because Tad Williams was writing it. Authors can make you like the character. When I didn't like Booster, it was the version of Booster that the author wrote that I didn't like. I think Waid wrote the Booster stuff in 52- I loved that Booster. If my only knowledge of Spiderman was Amazing and Ultimate, I would love the Bendis Spidey and hate Amazing. For me, a writer can make me love or hate a character.

Wow. Tad Williams has been the worst thing that's ever happened to Aquaman. He and Bruce Jones are 2 writers that will have a very hard time ever getting me to pick up one of their books.

[Deej]

your moms

Yeah! You tell them Baird!!!

[bairdduvessa]

Yeah! You tell them Baird!!!

:surrend: i just have nothing else to say anymore

[Foggy's Pal]

Wow. Tad Williams has been the worst thing that's ever happened to Aquaman. He and Bruce Jones are 2 writers that will have a very hard time ever getting me to pick up one of their books.

Ok, you got me there! However, I would be willing to bet that if someone like Bendis, Gaiman (although Eternals sucked), Brubaker, Miller wrote Aquaman a lot of people would give it a try. Maybe since McKeever doesn't have that stature yet, you are right.

[lonesomefool]

Ok, you got me there! However, I would be willing to bet that if someone like Bendis, Gaiman (although Eternals sucked), Brubaker, Miller wrote Aquaman a lot of people would give it a try. Maybe since McKeever doesn't have that stature yet, you are right.

I would have to hear what those writer's you listed above planned for Aquaman. If they had, what sounded like an interesting take, I would be all over it, but if they said "We are just going to tell the same old, same old, traditional Aquaman stories", I would probably not buy it.

And I believe that Grant Morrison wrote the Booster stuff in 52

[Deej]

Ok, you got me there! However, I would be willing to bet that if someone like Bendis, Gaiman (although Eternals sucked), Brubaker, Miller wrote Aquaman a lot of people would give it a try. Maybe since McKeever doesn't have that stature yet, you are right.

I still don't think you'd have a decent selling book in Aquaman... There's a reason why the X-Books are always on the top of the list...and it really has nothing to do with the writers.

[Deej]

:surrend: i just have nothing else to say anymore

You just be YOU Baird!! Why don't you tell everyone about your big plans for this weekend?

[Foggy's Pal]

I still don't think you'd have a decent selling book in Aquaman... There's a reason why the X-Books are always on the top of the list...and it really has nothing to do with the writers.

However, they have been established with good writing. I really don't know if Aquaman has had that luxury.

[bairdduvessa]

You just be YOU Baird!! Why don't you tell everyone about your big plans for this weekend?

uh playing with my transformers and giggling?

[Deej]

uh playing with my transformers and giggling?

Like a little girl, right?

[lonesomefool]

I still don't think you'd have a decent selling book in Aquaman... There's a reason why the X-Books are always on the top of the list...and it really has nothing to do with the writers.

Well, your right, the X-Books do mostly sell due to their hardcore fan base. That said, if they got a super star writer like Grant Morrison or Geoff Johns to take over Aquaman, with a well-known artist like Rags Morales, Ed Benes, or Mike McKone, I could see it being a top 30 book, especially if DC heavily marketed it.

[Deej]

However, they have been established with good writing. I really don't know if Aquaman has had that luxury.

So just get a great writer on the lower selling books, have them pen a dozen issues or so...and then people should stick with the books when the writer leaves??

[Deej]

Well, your right, the X-Books do mostly sell due to their hardcore fan base. That said, if they got a super star writer like Grant Morrison or Geoff Johns to take over Aquaman, with a well-known artist like Rags Morales, Ed Benes, or Mike McKone, I could see it being a top 30 book, especially if DC heavily marketed it.

I would bet within 5 issues of this great team, the book would drop out of the Top 30. I just don't think people care enough to stick around with Aquaman. personally, I love the character.

[bairdduvessa]

Like a little girl, right?

i was gonna say like a 6 year old

[Deej]

i was gonna say like a 6 year old

And do you want to tell everyone the special guest who will be playing with you like you were a 6 year old?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

You just proved my point that you don't just go for writers...has to be a character you like too. Thanks Sucker!

Not exactly. I read the Gravity mini when it came out and I had no idea who this McKeever guy even was.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

So he's buying a title in which he hates the main character??? :nonono2:

I think you're fooling yourself here...

I buy Ant-Man and don't really like the main character. ;-)

[Vonn Hennigar]

I buy Ant-Man and don't really like the main character. ;-)

Poor Veronica :(

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

your moms

your face

[Foggy's Pal]

So just get a great writer on the lower selling books, have them pen a dozen issues or so...and then people should stick with the books when the writer leaves??

A dozen of so? X has had the luxury of years of good stuff.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

i was gonna say like a 6 year old

Sounds like fun to me.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Poor Veronica :(

No shit. I feel sorry for her.

[Ray G.]

You all seem very excited about McKeever. How would you describe his writing and what makes his writing so strong? The new team seems very exciting, but why should Mckeever draw me in.

McKeever's style reminds me a lot of Bendis on Ultimate Spider-man.

That should say it all.

[Ray G.]

Possibly...but not interested in the character. I don't even know who the heck it is or even what company published this.

It's an original character. This is his first appearance. If I had to compare it to something, it reminds me a lot of a young Superman-like character. He's a young guy, fresh from the sticks, moving to a new city and trying to begin his fledgling career as a hero. Marvel continuity only plays into it extremely loosely.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Plus Gravity is now the official Protector Of The Universe replacing the sadly deceased Wendell Vaughn Quasar.

So it looks like he's a character who's going to have some staying power over the long haul.

[Ray G.]

Dude, fuck Aquaman. I actually do like the character of Anarky.

:rock: on.

I really think there's a ton of potential there. I'm not sure if McKeever is the right fit to write him. He needs a certain edge....

This is why I like you. You're a fellow fan of misunderstood characters. You're a big Spoiler fan too, right? Did you ever read my idea earlier in the thread how to bring her back? As a Warder?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

It's an original character. This is his first appearance. If I had to compare it to something, it reminds me a lot of a young Superman-like character. He's a young guy, fresh from the sticks, moving to a new city and trying to begin his fledgling career as a hero. Marvel continuity only plays into it extremely loosely.

I would describe him more as Spider-Man-like, not Superman-like.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Plus Gravity is now the official Protector Of The Universe replacing the sadly deceased Wendell Vaughn Quasar.

So it looks like he's a character who's going to have some staying power over the long haul.

I'm still not sure how I feel about this new role of his. 'Course anything is better than dead.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

:rock: on.

I really think there's a ton of potential there. I'm not sure if McKeever is the right fit to write him. He needs a certain edge....

This is why I like you. You're a fellow fan of misunderstood characters. You're a big Spoiler fan too, right? Did you ever read my idea earlier in the thread how to bring her back? As a Warder?

Yeah, I loves Spoiler. Good idea for her return, too.

[Ray G.]

Since someone's bound to say it, I want to be the first:

OMG! McKeever's totally New Avengers-ing the Teen Titans!

Actually, that's a pretty good comparison. A blend of the a-listers who move books(Supergirl, Robin) and the cool b-list characters who need the exposure(Blue Beetle, Miss Martian). Me like. :D

[Ray G.]

And I say that's BS. If he decided to write Aquaman, I'd say more than half the people here who are singing him praises wouldn't pick up the title...because they don't like Aquaman.

I thought Captain America was the most boring character imaginable. I picked up one issue on Ed Brubaker's name alone, and became completely and utterly hooked. There are very few bad characters.

[Ray G.]

Wow. Tad Williams has been the worst thing that's ever happened to Aquaman. He and Bruce Jones are 2 writers that will have a very hard time ever getting me to pick up one of their books.

Yeah, Tad Williams is quickly becoming the new Chuck Austen, right down to the sloppily disregarding what came before, and the trying to make a big splash with over-the-top twists right out of the gate.

The funny thing is, I really liked his Ibis one-shot.

[Ray G.]

I would describe him more as Spider-Man-like, not Superman-like.

I do not agree.

Superman can play the everyman too, they just rarely show it. John Byrne's Man of Steel and Loeb's For All Seasons really show why Gravity reminds me of a young Superman. It's that guy from the small town moving up to the superhero big leagues vibe. I really wish we could see more Superman stories from that time in his life.

[bairdduvessa]

And do you want to tell everyone the special guest who will be playing with you like you were a 6 year old?

optimus prime

[bairdduvessa]

your face

touche

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

optimus prime

Nice.

[bairdduvessa]

Nice.

i thought so. but maybe we should save this for a marvel thread...dc can't even get the gobots

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

i thought so. but maybe we should save this for a marvel thread...dc can't even get the gobots

:lol:

[Deej]

Not exactly. I read the Gravity mini when it came out and I had no idea who this McKeever guy even was.

That's proving NO point whatsoever...thanks for playing...

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

That's proving NO point whatsoever...thanks for playing...

I'm here to take no sides but my own.

[bairdduvessa]

I'm here to take no sides but my own.

i dig the hot girl's side

[Deej]

optimus prime

And can you show us on this Flint action figure of yours, where exactly Optimus Prime will touch you?

[Deej]

I'm here to take no sides but my own.

which makes you null and void. the case is closed. hang the rabbitt sir...but leave me his foot! :twisted:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

i dig the hot girl's side

She does have a nice side. And a nice front. And back.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

which makes you null and void. the case is closed. hang the rabbitt sir...but leave me his foot! :twisted:

:-(

[Deej]

i dig the hot girl's side

well how come they keep running away whenever you go to their side???

[bairdduvessa]

And can you show us on this Flint action figure of yours, where exactly Optimus Prime will touch you?
my flint figure is at my dad's

which makes you null and void. the case is closed. hang the rabbitt sir...but leave me his foot! :twisted:
ha. have you seen the commercial with the foot replacement?

She does have a nice side. And a nice front. And back.
:thumb:

well how come they keep running away whenever you go to their side???

i bite :monster:

[Deej]

I thought Captain America was the most boring character imaginable. I picked up one issue on Ed Brubaker's name alone, and became completely and utterly hooked. There are very few bad characters.

You don't count. You buy everything.

And the point is...and I'll keep saying this although you (not just you Ray) just don't get the point...you read something by Brubaker previously. You enjoyed his writing. You had to get hooked on something he wrote first...and it was most likely a character that you were enjoying before he came on board.

[Deej]

i bite :monster:
Now that's not nice!!!

[Foggy's Pal]

I just read New Avengers #30- what gives? I thought they rescued Maya in issue 27. Now she is fine and evil and stabs Strange. Did I miss something?

[TSChamp]

DC has almost lost me this year. I collected all 52 of 52.(SHITTY ENDING!) BoP :heart: Gail Simone and can't want for her to fix Wonder Woman. I got the typical Batman titles. (Detectives seems to be the strongest title out the bunch). Outsiders have got me interested in Nightwing. Nightwing has gotten me interested in dropping DC as a whole. What have they done to him????? Green Arrow is great. I :heart: Supergirl because she isn't that sicking sweet original. Teen Titan is just flat out awesome...sometimes...Green Lateran junkie. I buy the book even if it sucked which it doesn't right at the moment. JLA and JSA are doing fine. I am still waiting for JLI reunion. Checkmate doesn't grab me. I got issue 52? of Countdown and wondering if it worth sticking around for another 51 issues. Trails of Shazam! is on the cutting block this week. It just isn't what I expected out of the series.

This is my way of post my credentials for this thread. With that being said, I promise to talk out my ass for now on. :D

[Ray G.]

DC has almost lost me this year. I collected all 52 of 52.(SHITTY ENDING!) BoP :heart: Gail Simone and can't want for her to fix Wonder Woman. I got the typical Batman titles. (Detectives seems to be the strongest title out the bunch). Outsiders have got me interested in Nightwing. Nightwing has gotten me interested in dropping DC as a whole. What have they done to him????? Green Arrow is great. I :heart: Supergirl because she isn't that sicking sweet original. Teen Titan is just flat out awesome...sometimes...Green Lateran junkie. I buy the book even if it sucked which it doesn't right at the moment. JLA and JSA are doing fine. I am still waiting for JLI reunion. Checkmate doesn't grab me. I got issue 52? of Countdown and wondering if it worth sticking around for another 51 issues. Trails of Shazam! is on the cutting block this week. It just isn't what I expected out of the series.

This is my way of post my credentials for this thread. With that being said, I promise to talk out my ass for now on. :D

Woo! Welcome! :rock:

[bairdduvessa]

Now that's not nice!!!
some like it :grope:

I just read New Avengers #30- what gives? I thought they rescued Maya in issue 27. Now she is fine and evil and stabs Strange. Did I miss something?

wrong thread!

[TSChamp]

Woo! Welcome! :rock:

It was the Supergirl comment wasn't it Ray. Be honest.

[Foggy's Pal]

some like it :grope:


wrong thread!

I know, but I rely on all of you to keep me up to speed. Sad, I know.:cry:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

DC has almost lost me this year. I collected all 52 of 52.(SHITTY ENDING!) BoP :heart: Gail Simone and can't want for her to fix Wonder Woman. I got the typical Batman titles. (Detectives seems to be the strongest title out the bunch). Outsiders have got me interested in Nightwing. Nightwing has gotten me interested in dropping DC as a whole. What have they done to him????? Green Arrow is great. I :heart: Supergirl because she isn't that sicking sweet original. Teen Titan is just flat out awesome...sometimes...Green Lateran junkie. I buy the book even if it sucked which it doesn't right at the moment. JLA and JSA are doing fine. I am still waiting for JLI reunion. Checkmate doesn't grab me. I got issue 52? of Countdown and wondering if it worth sticking around for another 51 issues. Trails of Shazam! is on the cutting block this week. It just isn't what I expected out of the series.

This is my way of post my credentials for this thread. With that being said, I promise to talk out my ass for now on. :D

Welcome to the thread.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I just read New Avengers #30- what gives? I thought they rescued Maya in issue 27. Now she is fine and evil and stabs Strange. Did I miss something?

Well, the Hand killed her and resurrected her all evil and stuff. The team is still in the process of trying to save her.

[Foggy's Pal]

Well, the Hand killed her and resurrected her all evil and stuff. The team is still in the process of trying to save her.

The book keeps jumping around and it's confusing.
The last time we saw her Spidey had her lifting her out. Thanks for the heads up.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

The book keeps jumping around and it's confusing.
The last time we saw her Spidey had her lifting her out. Thanks for the heads up.

Yeah, its somewhat confusing with jumping back and forth EVERY ISSUE. I need to go back and re-read the last few issues to get a more clear idea of exactly what is happening, I suppose.

[bairdduvessa]

The book keeps jumping around and it's confusing.
The last time we saw her Spidey had her lifting her out. Thanks for the heads up.

i think you missed an issue

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

So I just read the newsarama interview about Countdown to Adventure (very lame name by the way).

Anyone (other than Ray) going to be picking this up? I can't decide. I loved the space heroes in 52, but I also like the fact that they're home now. Seems like Buddy should stay with the family for awhile. Same with Adam.

[bairdduvessa]

So I just read the newsarama interview about Countdown to Adventure (very lame name by the way).

Anyone (other than Ray) going to be picking this up? I can't decide. I loved the space heroes in 52, but I also like the fact that they're home now. Seems like Buddy should stay with the family for awhile. Same with Adam.

maybe it's a family cruise? starfire will be bringing her twins

[Ray G.]

So I just read the newsarama interview about Countdown to Adventure (very lame name by the way).

Anyone (other than Ray) going to be picking this up? I can't decide. I loved the space heroes in 52, but I also like the fact that they're home now. Seems like Buddy should stay with the family for awhile. Same with Adam.

I like Beechen, and I love two of the three stars, so I'll be there. :thumb:

[Generic Poster]

"Animal Man" does not fit very well into the space hero milieu, IMO. Seems like he should stay on earth doing, you know, animal stuff.

[bairdduvessa]

"Animal Man" does not fit very well into the space hero milieu, IMO. Seems like he should stay on earth doing, you know, animal stuff.

being filmed by documentary makers?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

maybe it's a family cruise? starfire will be bringing her twins

:lol: With Buddy's son perpetually following her around.


I like Beechen, and I love two of the three stars, so I'll be there. :thumb:

I said, "other than Ray". ;-)

[bairdduvessa]

:lol: With Buddy's son perpetually following her around.



you mean "them" right?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

you mean "them" right?

Indeed. He's likely yet to realize she has a face.

[bairdduvessa]

Indeed. He's likely yet to realize she has a face.

she has a face?

[Generic Poster]

being filmed by documentary makers?

Yeah. And licking himself.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

she has a face?

I think so. I'll have to remember to check. Or at least try to.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Yeah. And licking himself.

Now there's an animal power he needs to utilize.

:shifty:

[bairdduvessa]

I think so. I'll have to remember to check. Or at least try to.
you do that

Yeah. And licking himself.

thank you for replying

[Foggy's Pal]

i think you missed an issue

I didn't miss an issue. 27 was the last issue with Maya.

Question: Do you think Teen Titans will be accessible to pick up at 50? Sounds like a good direction, but I don't want to be lost due to the last 49 issues.

[Matt O'Keefe]

And I say that's BS. If he decided to write Aquaman, I'd say more than half the people here who are singing him praises wouldn't pick up the title...because they don't like Aquaman.

It depends on the writer, but I could name at least 10 that would convince me to read Aquaman.

[Foggy's Pal]

It depends on the writer, but I could name at least 10 that would convince me to read Aquaman.

I'd go about four.

[bairdduvessa]

I didn't miss an issue. 27 was the last issue with Maya.

Question: Do you think Teen Titans will be accessible to pick up at 50? Sounds like a good direction, but I don't want to be lost due to the last 49 issues.

she was in the background with strange using magic on her

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Question: Do you think Teen Titans will be accessible to pick up at 50? Sounds like a good direction, but I don't want to be lost due to the last 49 issues.

Sure.

I have high hopes that its going to kick some ass.

[Foggy's Pal]

she was in the background with strange using magic on her

Damn! Which issue?

[Deej]

DC has almost lost me this year. I collected all 52 of 52.(SHITTY ENDING!) BoP :heart: Gail Simone and can't want for her to fix Wonder Woman. I got the typical Batman titles. (Detectives seems to be the strongest title out the bunch). Outsiders have got me interested in Nightwing. Nightwing has gotten me interested in dropping DC as a whole. What have they done to him????? Green Arrow is great. I :heart: Supergirl because she isn't that sicking sweet original. Teen Titan is just flat out awesome...sometimes...Green Lateran junkie. I buy the book even if it sucked which it doesn't right at the moment. JLA and JSA are doing fine. I am still waiting for JLI reunion. Checkmate doesn't grab me. I got issue 52? of Countdown and wondering if it worth sticking around for another 51 issues. Trails of Shazam! is on the cutting block this week. It just isn't what I expected out of the series.

This is my way of post my credentials for this thread. With that being said, I promise to talk out my ass for now on. :D


That's pretty much what we all do.

Just some warnings :

Ray is a perv when it comes to Super-heroines
SteveZegers is a Super-per fanatic...don't mess with them!
Vonn hates everything ;)
Baird is slightly off-kilter and often attempts to derail the thread
Hock...hmmm...he makes pretty damn good points
Matt O loves Gilmore Girls and gets strangely upset if there's a lapse in this thread.
I tend to reply to posts that have already been answered...especially when I re-read those i've missed
Jack is also an occasional de-railer and strives to overtake Ray in post counts
John Drake...ummm...likes Oreos
YouStayClassy is missing...
TheDoctor likes to play jokes...especially on Ray!

and Sean McKeever is the desire of every DC Fan Boy on here... :scared:

Feel free to edit or add to the intros!

[bairdduvessa]

Damn! Which issue?

28 or 29

[Deej]

So I just read the newsarama interview about Countdown to Adventure (very lame name by the way).

Anyone (other than Ray) going to be picking this up? I can't decide. I loved the space heroes in 52, but I also like the fact that they're home now. Seems like Buddy should stay with the family for awhile. Same with Adam.

I probably will. I love DC's sci-fi properties.

[bairdduvessa]

That's pretty much what we all do.

Just some warnings :

Ray is a perv when it comes to Super-heroines
SteveZegers is a Super-per fanatic...don't mess with them!
Vonn hates everything ;)
Baird is slightly off-kilter and often attempts to derail the thread
Hock...hmmm...he makes pretty damn good points
Matt O loves Gilmore Girls and gets strangely upset if there's a lapse in this thread.
I tend to reply to posts that have already been answered...especially when I re-read those i've missed
Jack is also an occasional de-railer and strives to overtake Ray in post counts
John Drake...ummm...likes Oreos
YouStayClassy is missing...

and Sean McKeever is the desire of every DC Fan Boy on here... :scared:

Feel free to edit or add to the intros!
attempts? attempts? i succeed a lot.

and sorry mr mcKeever, gail is my desire

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

attempts? attempts? i succeed a lot.

and sorry mr mcKeever, gail is my desire

*glances into mirror*

Gail Simone
Gail Simone
Gail Simone

[bairdduvessa]

*glances into mirror*

Gail Simone
Gail Simone
Gail Simone

did it work? if so, get her to write an outlaw mini!

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

did it work? if so, get her to write an outlaw mini!

Not yet. I'm too scared to try again.

[bairdduvessa]

Not yet. I'm too scared to try again.

ok i'll go
Gail Simone
Gail Simone
Gail Simone

[John Drake]

I think it's either cool or sad that the only thing about me was "likes oreos" :rofl:

[bairdduvessa]

I think it's either cool or sad that the only thing about me was "likes oreos" :rofl:

j'hon?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

ok i'll go
Gail Simone
Gail Simone
Gail Simone

it work?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I think it's either cool or sad that the only thing about me was "likes oreos" :rofl:

Go with "cool"

[bairdduvessa]

it work?

no

[John Drake]

j'hon?
hell yes

Go with "cool"

I will!

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

no

:-(

But I want her to write an Outlaw and Bob mini.

[bairdduvessa]

hell yes


I will!
:thumb:

:-(

But I want her to write an Outlaw and Bob mini.

YES!

[UltimateQuintessa]

Did you guys see the Mckeever interview on newsarama yet?

[Ray G.]

Did you guys see the Mckeever interview on newsarama yet?

Yeah, it looks kick-ass.

[Matt O'Keefe]

Yeah, it looks kick-ass.

I'm just wondering what's going to happen with the Supergirl and Robin titles......

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Did you guys see the Mckeever interview on newsarama yet?

Yup. I read it a little bit ago. Its looking kick ass.

[UltimateQuintessa]

I'm just wondering what's going to happen with the Supergirl and Robin titles......

Why would Teen Titans affect those books?

[Matt O'Keefe]

Why would Teen Titans affect those books?

I meant writers. We thought for sure McKeever was writing one of the two.

[UltimateQuintessa]

I meant writers. We thought for sure McKeever was writing one of the two.

Oh I didn't know you guys thought that.
Now I feel left out thanks.

[Ray G.]

I meant writers. We thought for sure McKeever was writing one of the two.

My guesses:

Robin: J. Torres
Supergirl: Cecil Castalucci.

[UltimateQuintessa]

My guesses:

Robin: J. Torres
Supergirl: Cecil Castalucci.

Cecil Castalucci sounds like a poorly named figure head for the mob.:cool:

[Ray G.]

Cecil Castalucci sounds like a poorly named figure head for the mob.:cool:

Indeed. It's a long-shot guess, but with her writing for Minx, it might be interesting.

[UltimateQuintessa]

Indeed. It's a long-shot guess, but with her writing for Minx, it might be interesting.

Thought that was a guys' name. Well a female writer writing a female character would be nice for once. But no more gratitous Kara butt shots.:mad:

[bairdduvessa]

Thought that was a guys' name. Well a female writer writing a female character would be nice for once. But no more gratitous Kara butt shots.:mad:

unless she is into lipstick chicas...

[UltimateQuintessa]

unless she is into lipstick chicas...

I can only hope.

[Deej]

I think it's either cool or sad that the only thing about me was "likes oreos" :rofl:

sorry...but everytime you post...I have the desire to have a big cold glass of milk and oreo cookies!!!

[bairdduvessa]

sorry...but everytime you post...I have the desire to have a big cold glass of milk and oreo cookies!!!
mmmmmmmmmmmmm mulatos...what?

I can only hope.

ladies and gents...the new ray!

[Deej]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm mulatos...what?


ladies and gents...the new ray!

:surrend: one ray is already too much :surrend:

[bairdduvessa]

:surrend: one ray is already too much :surrend:

nah. it's not like they can breed

btw how do you spell mulatos?

[UltimateQuintessa]

:surrend: one ray is already too much :surrend:

You guys are lucky your just spared of my Gwen Stacy obession because this is a DC thread.

[bairdduvessa]

You guys are lucky your just spared of my Gwen Stacy obession because this is a DC thread.

nah gle is a big spiderman geek so he'll force you to respond if you just don't post it

[bairdduvessa]

woot 212 posts in this thread!

[Hock]

I say bring back Barry! Bring him back! The DCU needs him!

Get with the times grampa. Stop whining and bitching about Barry, start whinning and bitching about Wally. Wally's the flash to bring back.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Another day gone and about 3 posts worth reading.

Yay :nonono2:

[UltimateQuintessa]

Get with the times grampa. Stop whining and bitching about Barry, start whinning and bitching about Wally. Wally's the flash to bring back.

Here here preach on brother.

[bairdduvessa]

Get with the times grampa. Stop whining and bitching about Barry, start whinning and bitching about Wally. Wally's the flash to bring back.

bring back max mercury!

[Hock]

This is the second worst thing to come out of this whole storyline. (The worst being what happened to poor little Billy Batson!)

Agreed, what happened with wally was pretty bad, but Billy, that was just completely fucking horrible.

The Flash is a bit fucked, Trials of Shazam is completely fucked up and is ruining characters, in my opinion. Hopefully we get one good Marvel out of countdown.

[Ray G.]

Agreed, what happened with wally was pretty bad, but Billy, that was just completely fucking horrible.

The Flash is a bit fucked, Trials of Shazam is completely fucked up and is ruining characters, in my opinion. Hopefully we get one good Marvel out of countdown.

Yeah, as outraged as I am over what they did to Superboy(AND OUTBURST! :mad: ), those deaths are much easier to reverse than the horrible character hatchet job they did on Bart and Billy.

[UltimateQuintessa]

Yeah, as outraged as I am over what they did to Superboy(AND OUTBURST! :mad: ), those deaths are much easier to reverse than the horrible character hatchet job they did on Bart and Billy.

Outburst? Who is that?

[The Doctor]

That's pretty much what we all do.

Just some warnings :

Ray is a perv when it comes to Super-heroines
SteveZegers is a Super-per fanatic...don't mess with them!
Vonn hates everything ;)
Baird is slightly off-kilter and often attempts to derail the thread
Hock...hmmm...he makes pretty damn good points
Matt O loves Gilmore Girls and gets strangely upset if there's a lapse in this thread.
I tend to reply to posts that have already been answered...especially when I re-read those i've missed
Jack is also an occasional de-railer and strives to overtake Ray in post counts
John Drake...ummm...likes Oreos
YouStayClassy is missing...
TheDoctor likes to play jokes...especially on Ray!

and Sean McKeever is the desire of every DC Fan Boy on here... :scared:

Feel free to edit or add to the intros!
Firm but fair.

I think it's either cool or sad that the only thing about me was "likes oreos" :rofl:
It's true though:)

[Hock]

More Titans stuff! Team revealed!

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=112693

I like! Really glad Kid Devil is sticking around. I like him.

I like Kid Devil as well. I'm glad he said Blue Beetle is in that issue, not that he's on the team. That gives me hope.

[Hock]

I am soooooooo happy he's getting a bigger profile. I don't think I could possibly like this lineup more. Well, if Anarky, Arrowette, or Spoiler was there, maybe. But still.

:roll:

[TSChamp]

OK. Now that I am home from my son's graduation, how does everyone feel about Countdown. I am sort of on the wall with buying another weekly mag, but I am interested in what happens to Mary Marvel. I figure it may end up in a train wreck or something amazing. I noticed that is typical DC m.o.

[Ray G.]

OK. Now that I am home from my son's graduation, how does everyone feel about Countdown. I am sort of on the wall with buying another weekly mag, but I am interested in what happens to Mary Marvel. I figure it may end up in a train wreck or something amazing. I noticed that is typical DC m.o.

One issue in, it looks like a crazy, huge, continuity-crazed mega event. And I love it. :D

[Hock]

You all seem very excited about McKeever. How would you describe his writing and what makes his writing so strong? The new team seems very exciting, but why should Mckeever draw me in.

I like McKeever, because I think he writes some really good, complex characters. Really 3 dimensional, and even his heroes are fuck up sometimes. His action scenes are decent, nothing spectacular but he doesn't fuck it up at all. Yeah, mostly the characters.

[TSChamp]

One issue in, it looks like a crazy, huge, continuity-crazed mega event. And I love it. :D

I notice thats what causes most fans to say to DC," WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING!!!!!!!!!"

[Deej]

One issue in, it looks like a crazy, huge, continuity-crazed mega event. And I love it. :D

I feel the same way. I think for fans of Mary Marvel, it's going to be like a roller coaster. They'll be some good things you'll cheer about, a lot of things people will get super pissed about...but in the end she'll pull through and people will be satisfied with her story.

And I'm only basing this on what I went through with Booster Gold in 52.

[Hock]

Have to disagree, (respectfully of course:cool: ) I hated Booster Gold, but thanks to some dandy writing in 52 I am now excited to pick up the Booster ongoing. That's right; I said dandy.

I loved Booster Gold, but I love him even more now with this new direction.

[Deej]

I loved Booster Gold, but I love him even more now with this new direction.

Even though I loved Booster Gold before and during 52...there was NO way i was picking up his solo title...until that last issue of 52 hit. I'm on board now!

[TSChamp]

I don't know about the Booster Gold series. I was hoping for a Question series out of 52. I would love to see a true detective comic with a light touch of DC character in it.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I loved Booster Gold, but I love him even more now with this new direction.

He's a shell of a man without Ted!

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I don't know about the Booster Gold series. I was hoping for a Question series out of 52. I would love to see a true detective comic with a light touch of DC character in it.

Me, too. Questoya needs either an ongoing or a mini.

[Hock]

Even though I loved Booster Gold before and during 52...there was NO way i was picking up his solo title...until that last issue of 52 hit. I'm on board now!

Yeah, before 52, Booster definetly worked best in a group setting. Old booster would not have worked with just him and Skeets.

[Hock]

I don't know about the Booster Gold series. I was hoping for a Question series out of 52. I would love to see a true detective comic with a light touch of DC character in it.

Yeah, I was hoping for that too. The two titles I wanted most coming out of 52 were Questoya and Animal-man/Adam Strange space adventure. We're kind of getting the latter, but Starfire is along for the ride? :nonono2:

[TSChamp]

Yeah, I was hoping for that too. The two titles I wanted most coming out of 52 were Questoya and Animal-man/Adam Strange space adventure. We're kind of getting the latter, but Starfire is along for the ride? :nonono2:

I rather have Animal-man minus the other two. I'd never cared for Adam Strange. Starfire, nice to look at, has never been a big fav of mine. Does anyone know if there is going to be a Black Adam mini or series?

Yes, I don't feel like reading this whole thread to find out.

[bairdduvessa]

I rather have Animal-man minus the other two. I'd never cared for Adam Strange. Starfire, nice to look at, has never been a big fav of mine. Does anyone know if there is going to be a Black Adam mini or series?

Yes, I don't feel like reading this whole thread to find out.

possibly





:D

[Foggy's Pal]

I loved Booster Gold, but I love him even more now with this new direction.

If he continues time hopping, the possibilities for his stories are endless. The new writer is fired up about this too, so that is a good sign.

[TSChamp]

possibly





:D


Does that mean maybe?

[Hock]

I buy Ant-Man and don't really like the main character. ;-)

I buy Ant-man because I hate the man character.

[Foggy's Pal]

I buy Ant-man because I hate the man character.

That's the point; he's irredeemable. And he got with a chick on his best friend's grave........ ya gotta lov, er, ummmm, hate that, right?

[bairdduvessa]

Does that mean maybe?

could be

[Hock]

You don't count. You buy everything.

And the point is...and I'll keep saying this although you (not just you Ray) just don't get the point...you read something by Brubaker previously. You enjoyed his writing. You had to get hooked on something he wrote first...and it was most likely a character that you were enjoying before he came on board.

I get what you're saying, but I don't totally agree. A lot of the stuff I first read I picked up not because of a character, but because of word of mouth. I got into BKV because a fried lent me Y, and Bendis when I was loaned Powers. With both of those books there was no pre-established characters to get drawn into. Brubaker I did get into becuase of the characters he was working on. And I'm sure in certain cases press coverage. I think there's a lot of different ways to first get interested in a writer, and I think them working on a character is minor.

[Ray G.]

I rather have Animal-man minus the other two. I'd never cared for Adam Strange. Starfire, nice to look at, has never been a big fav of mine. Does anyone know if there is going to be a Black Adam mini or series?

Yes, I don't feel like reading this whole thread to find out.

Confirmed. Peter Tomasi and Doug Mahnke. It's a six issue mini, I believe.

[Hock]

So I just read the newsarama interview about Countdown to Adventure (very lame name by the way).

Anyone (other than Ray) going to be picking this up? I can't decide. I loved the space heroes in 52, but I also like the fact that they're home now. Seems like Buddy should stay with the family for awhile. Same with Adam.

I agree, like I said I was hoping for a Buddy/Adam stuck in space book, but without Kory, and them stuck in Space. Family is a big motivator for both of those characters, and if they are out in space, it should be for finding and saving their families. Like Adam Strange trying to find them during Planet Heist.

[Hock]

That's pretty much what we all do.

Just some warnings :

Ray is a perv when it comes to Super-heroines
SteveZegers is a Super-per fanatic...don't mess with them!
Vonn hates everything ;)
Baird is slightly off-kilter and often attempts to derail the thread
Hock...hmmm...he makes pretty damn good points
Matt O loves Gilmore Girls and gets strangely upset if there's a lapse in this thread.
I tend to reply to posts that have already been answered...especially when I re-read those i've missed
Jack is also an occasional de-railer and strives to overtake Ray in post counts
John Drake...ummm...likes Oreos
YouStayClassy is missing...
TheDoctor likes to play jokes...especially on Ray!

and Sean McKeever is the desire of every DC Fan Boy on here... :scared:

Feel free to edit or add to the intros!

:thumb: Thanks man, that's nice of you to say.

[Deej]

I get what you're saying, but I don't totally agree. A lot of the stuff I first read I picked up not because of a character, but because of word of mouth. I got into BKV because a fried lent me Y, and Bendis when I was loaned Powers. With both of those books there was no pre-established characters to get drawn into. Brubaker I did get into becuase of the characters he was working on. And I'm sure in certain cases press coverage. I think there's a lot of different ways to first get interested in a writer, and I think them working on a character is minor.


OK - so someone loan me some McKeever comics!! :)

[bairdduvessa]

deej what's a super per? (i'm refering to the name/attributes chart you made :grope:

[Matt O'Keefe]

Get with the times grampa. Stop whining and bitching about Barry, start whinning and bitching about Wally. Wally's the flash to bring back.

Amen


I like Kid Devil as well. I'm glad he said Blue Beetle is in that issue, not that he's on the team. That gives me hope.

I hope, since they're moving forward so many years, that we do see him turn 18 and have to fulfill his end of the bargain with the demon


One issue in, it looks like a crazy, huge, continuity-crazed mega event. And I love it. :D

Ugh.... hope that's not what it is. With Dini and McKeever I thought it would be more character-driven.


I like McKeever, because I think he writes some really good, complex characters. Really 3 dimensional, and even his heroes are fuck up sometimes. His action scenes are decent, nothing spectacular but he doesn't fuck it up at all. Yeah, mostly the characters.

Action scenes are the most boring parts of comics to me. Character is what I look for first and foremost.

[Hock]

My guesses:

Robin: J. Torres
Supergirl: Cecil Castalucci.

Is Beechen off Robin?

[Ray G.]

I hope, since they're moving forward so many years, that we do see him turn 18 and have to fulfill his end of the bargain with the demon

I think it was 20 for KD, not 18. He's probably around 17 now anyway.

But I have no doubt it'll come to fruition soon enough. Neron rules. :rock:

[Matt O'Keefe]

I don't know about the Booster Gold series. I was hoping for a Question series out of 52. I would love to see a true detective comic with a light touch of DC character in it.

They tried that a bit with Gotham Central. Unfortunately, it's a really tough sell even though a lot of us are clamoring for it.

[Ray G.]

Is Beechen off Robin?

Yep. #166 is his last issue. There was a lot of debate over whether McKeever was taking over Supergirl or Robin as a result.

[Matt O'Keefe]

I think it was 20 for KD, not 18. He's probably around 17 now anyway.

But I have no doubt it'll come to fruition soon enough. Neron rules. :rock:

Did they ever say what age he was? It would kick ass if a big reveal in Titans was that his 20th Birthday was like a week after the end of Countdown.

[Hock]

woot 212 posts in this thread!

216, woot.

[Ray G.]

Did they ever say what age he was? It would kick ass if a big reveal in Titans was that his 20th Birthday was like a week after the end of Countdown.

There's a website that catalogues all the ages of the Titans with proof and evidence. Based on the timeframe, Kid Devil can be conclusively proven to be 17. Ravager is 16, Robin is 17, Wonder Girl is either 16 or 17, depending on whether you believe Peter David or Phil Jiminez.

[Hock]

Yeah, as outraged as I am over what they did to Superboy(AND OUTBURST! :mad: ), those deaths are much easier to reverse than the horrible character hatchet job they did on Bart and Billy.

I didn't think Bart got that bad of a hatchet job, yeah, the first few issues sucked, but he's looking allright now. And I think there's some good potential for story. It's Wally that got fucked over.

[Matt O'Keefe]

There's a website that catalogues all the ages of the Titans with proof and evidence. Based on the timeframe, Kid Devil can be conclusively proven to be 17. Ravager is 16, Robin is 17, Wonder Girl is either 16 or 17, depending on whether you believe Peter David or Phil Jiminez.

You know only the hardcore fans pay attention to those, right? I doubt the writers could care less.:lol:

[Hock]

OK - so someone loan me some McKeever comics!! :)

Talk to Ray, he's the biggest McKeever booster on the board

[Hock]

Action scenes are the most boring parts of comics to me. Character is what I look for first and foremost.

Character and Story for me. Sometime action is an intergral part of that story, sometimes not. Gravity, for a McKeever example, needed action at some points for certain character moments. I hate Action for actions sake though.

[Matt O'Keefe]

I didn't think Bart got that bad of a hatchet job, yeah, the first few issues sucked, but he's looking allright now. And I think there's some good potential for story. It's Wally that got fucked over.

But how can you de-age him when he needs to return to Impulse as many think he should? There lies the dilemna.

[Hock]

Yep. #166 is his last issue. There was a lot of debate over whether McKeever was taking over Supergirl or Robin as a result.

Beechen off Robin and Teen Titans? :mistrust: I wonder if something is fishy.

[Matt O'Keefe]

Beechen off Robin and Teen Titans? :mistrust: I wonder if something is fishy.

Where've you been, Hock?:p


Says he has to fit in Countdown, his mini, and TV work so a few things had to go.

[Hock]

There's a website that catalogues all the ages of the Titans with proof and evidence. Based on the timeframe, Kid Devil can be conclusively proven to be 17. Ravager is 16, Robin is 17, Wonder Girl is either 16 or 17, depending on whether you believe Peter David or Phil Jiminez.

Some people have too much time on their hands. Some writer, who probably doesn't care about all those fine points, is going to have something said that ruins the figures.

[Hock]

But how can you de-age him when he needs to return to Impulse as many think he should? There lies the dilemna.

Why de-age him. He can be just as immature as an adult. physical age to me, is minor.

[Hock]

Where've you been, Hock?:p


Says he has to fit in Countdown, his mini, and TV work so a few things had to go.

What do you mean where have I been? He's on countdown? Didn't know that. I didn't know that. So I guess losing two beeks and gaining two isn't fishy at all.

[Matt O'Keefe]

What do you mean where have I been? He's on countdown? Didn't know that. I didn't know that. So I guess losing two beeks and gaining two isn't fishy at all.

Nope. He works in TV a lot, so he can only handle two titles. Apparently his jumping ship on Teen Titans was decided long before the Titans East fiasco.

[Ray G.]

Nope. He works in TV a lot, so he can only handle two titles. Apparently his jumping ship on Teen Titans was decided long before the Titans East fiasco.

I'm not sure how much of that was his fault, because frankly, part two was no great shakes either. The entire thing was a pretty weak battle comic at the end of the day.

[Matt O'Keefe]

I'm not sure how much of that was his fault, because frankly, part two was no great shakes either. The entire thing was a pretty weak battle comic at the end of the day.

Eh, I dropped it. Plan on reading Johns' whole run in trade when I have the cash, decided I'd rather save up for that than read a mediocre story.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I buy Ant-man because I hate the man character.

He's written so well. And beautifully drawn.

[Hock]

He's written so well. And beautifully drawn.

I love Hester and Parks.

And Matt, what did you mean, where hae I been? I'm so confused.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

OK - so someone loan me some McKeever comics!! :)

If you lived closer, I would.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Beechen off Robin and Teen Titans? :mistrust: I wonder if something is fishy.

Exactly what I've been wondering.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I love Hester and Parks.


Me, too.

[Matt O'Keefe]

I love Hester and Parks.

And Matt, what did you mean, where have I been? I'm so confused.

I meant we'd been discussing for the last week or two about Beecher off Robin, and it seemed like news to you. Maybe you were never online then.


I tried 2 issues of Irredemable, and I was a tad underwhelmed, so I dropped it. Think I should pick up the digest?

[Hock]

I meant we'd been discussing for the last week or two about Beecher off Robin, and it seemed like news to you. Maybe you were never online then.


I tried 2 issues of Irredemable, and I was a tad underwhelmed, so I dropped it. Think I should pick up the digest?

I don't always read things so closely, sometimes I just skim. :surrend: