Ray's Official DCU Megathread the 3rd: Countdown Edition - Now on Earth-OOMPH!

[Ray G.]

Night, guys! New comic list tomorrow! :boogie:

[Hock]

Captain America #26 - :thumb:
Great read, it's so awesome that Bru can carry a book with the title character dead. Yeah, it's only been one issue without Cap, but it still rocked.

I liked how Bucky knew exactly how Cap would deal with the bar sitation, but decided to kick ass anyways. Bucky is going to carry aroound some guilt for a while, not about Cap's death, but about their relationship. He's going to be so protective of the mantle, god help anyone who assumes it. Sharon get;s the guilt over killing Cap, and what the villains are up to? I don't know but I want to find out. Sam was pretty awesome as well.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Captain America #26
Great read, it's so awesome that Bru can carry a book with the title character dead. Yeah, it's only been one issue without Cap, but it still rocked.

I liked how Bucky knew exactly how Cap would deal with the bar sitation, but decided to kick ass anyways. Bucky is going to carry aroound some guilt for a while, not about Cap's death, but about their relationship. He's going to be so protective of the mantle, god help anyone who assumes it. Sharon get;s the guilt over killing Cap, and what the villains are up to? I don't know but I want to find out. Sam was pretty awesome as well.

Such a good issue.

My only problem was the awkwardness of Ronin during the secret wake. It took me right out of the story.

Can't wait for the next one!

[morlock with a day pass]

Countdown spoiler: Don't know if this has come up since yesterday, but I would assume that Black Adam had his power in Countdown. It takes place after his mini series in August, so I hope he gets his powers over the course of 8 issues.
The timing of the scene is mentioned in the back of the issue.


Does he have his powers? Does this take place after his mini? Whose to say he hasn't lost his marbles? Time has passed in the DCu since the end of 52, some time at least. Maybe he's spent that time bulking up. Those guys he took out weren't meta's, they were a couple of scrubs. I think it's possible theat he had no powers, just bulked up and put on the costume.

im not reading countdown but if adam does have powers, who is to say they are the same gods granted powers? any chance eclipso is at work already using adam to lure mary in?

[SteveZegers]

Such a good issue.

My only problem was the awkwardness of Ronin during the secret wake. It took me right out of the story.

Can't wait for the next one!

Yeah, and Captain America not being in it. This was a good issue, and I'm curious to see how long they can go on without the title character (Meaning until they realize this whole thing was a huge mistake.)

[The Doctor]

I disagree, it's a shame that vic is dead, but at least he got a good death. It was tragic, and human, and the last thing he did when he was dying was make sure someone continued his work.
Even if he had the best comic death ever doesn't justify killing him just so they could have another minority superhero.

Jason Todd's memorium is still there so it can get smashed dramatically 18 times per year.

Seriously over the last almost 2 decades it must have been smashed at least a 100 times.

Bruce likes to clean up.

[bairdduvessa]

Yeah, and Captain America not being in it. This was a good issue, and I'm curious to see how long they can go on without the title character (Meaning until they realize this whole thing was a huge mistake.)

what are you talking about? he was in it

[SteveZegers]

what are you talking about? he was in it

Yeah, but all dead and stinky. I like my heroes less smelly. (Fact: Superman smells like fresh-baked cookies)

[SteveZegers]

Never forget.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1332/robin4lf3.gif

She was just asking for trouble with hair like that. Every single time she gets in a fight, someone would grab a handful and bash her in the face. Foolishness!

[Deej]

She was just asking for trouble with hair like that.

With the Cluemaster as her father, she was born into trouble!!

[bairdduvessa]

With the Cluemaster as her father, she was born into trouble!!

well yea there was that clue

[Deej]

well yea there was that clue

Hey...what's a torie?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Yeah, and Captain America not being in it. This was a good issue, and I'm curious to see how long they can go on without the title character (Meaning until they realize this whole thing was a huge mistake.)

I don't think it was a huge mistake. Have faith in Bru. :-D

[Deej]

Matt O'Keefe is going to be so SUPER PISSED that this thread has not moved today!!!

[The Doctor]

Matt O'Keefe is going to be so SUPER PISSED that this thread has not moved today!!!

He might cry.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Matt O'Keefe is going to be so SUPER PISSED that this thread has not moved today!!!


He might cry.

I'm okay with that.

[Deej]

I'm okay with that.

Strangely enough, I am too! Pics please!

[The Doctor]

I'm okay with that.

Poor Matt.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Poor Matt.

Poor Vic.

[The Doctor]

Poor Vic.

:cry:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

:cry:

*supportive hug*

[The Doctor]

*supportive hug*

I'll make it all better.

Some day.....:surrend:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I'll make it all better.

Some day.....:surrend:

I anxiously await.

[The Doctor]

I anxiously await.

Don't hold your breath.:cry:

[Vonn Hennigar]

So i'm starting on Detective Comics (3 issues down) and 2 questions.

A) When did The Riddler fall into a coma? Was this in Hush? I remember he had brain cancer but it's been too long.

B) Poison Ivy kills people now? Or has she done this before?

Either way good stuff so far even with 3 different art teams on 3 issues but a few of the mysteries are well unsolvable and only become clear after Batman describes them. Then again i think almost every mystery ever in comics usually is either A) indecipherable or B) Shittastic (Wave hello Identity Crisis).

[The Doctor]

So i'm starting on Detective Comics (3 issues down) and 2 questions.

A) When did The Riddler fall into a coma? Was this in Hush? I remember he had brain cancer but it's been too long.

B) Poison Ivy kills people now? Or has she done this before?

Either way good stuff so far even with 3 different art teams on 3 issues but a few of the mysteries are well unsolvable and only become clear after Batman describes them. Then again i think almost every mystery ever in comics usually is either A) indecipherable or B) Shittastic (Wave hello Identity Crisis).

He got hit in the head at some point before the OYL jump.

Poison Ivy's killed lots of people.

[Vonn Hennigar]

He got hit in the head at some point before the OYL jump.

Poison Ivy's killed lots of people.

Then why is Batman treating her like a 12 year old shoplifter most of the time?

Is Bruce THAT pussy-whipped?

[The Doctor]

Then why is Batman treating her like a 12 year old shoplifter most of the time?

Is Bruce THAT pussy-whipped?

Nah I think it's cause at her heart she just wants to do the right thing.

She just happens to be insane.

[Ray G.]

Nah I think it's cause at her heart she just wants to do the right thing.

She just happens to be insane.

Plus, she's one of those "victim" villains, much like Two-Face. Batman is always a little more reluctant to take them out. He does it, but he generally acts like a moron for a few minutes first.

[Matt O'Keefe]

BUT...

The whole show can change now... For one thing, do we really know if Sawyer is alive? Secondly, the next season could be Jack & company trying to get back on the Island and have flash backs of how they got off it to begin with. There is so much they can do.

Also, I kind of got sick and tired of Charlie in the 2nd season but he really went out on a high note. His character really did a 180 and he probably went from least fan favorite to most favorite this year.

You've got a point there.

Charlie's character didn't have any real direction last season, but they really redeemed him in the last few episodes.

[Matt O'Keefe]

I really forget that this is a DC thread sometimes.

Then me, Baird, and Jack are doing our jobs8)

[Matt O'Keefe]

Jason Todd's memorium is still there so it can get smashed dramatically 18 times per year.

Seriously over the last almost 2 decades it must have been smashed at least a 100 times.

:lol:


Yeah, and Captain America not being in it. This was a good issue, and I'm curious to see how long they can go on without the title character (Meaning until they realize this whole thing was a huge mistake.)

Usually I'm wary about this kind of stuff, but I'm not making my opinion on this until I see where the story goes. I think Bru knows what he's doing here.

[Ray G.]

And now, it's time for...Counting Down with Mike Marts!

Preview included!

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=114101

[Olivier E.]

What happened to the Dr.Fate series?

Who's the new Dr.Fate?

In the latest JLA issue who was the ape villain?

[Vonn Hennigar]

What happened to the Dr.Fate series?

Who's the new Dr.Fate?

In the latest JLA issue who was the ape villain?

The Dr.Fate series was cancelled at the last minute. Oresumably it's still coming but god knows why?

Just throw him in the JSA where he belongs. As for who it is, like everyone else it's the 4th or 5th Dr.Fate which drives seemingly only me mad with anger.

The ape was The classic body of the Ultra-Humanite aka DC Comics first real supervillain.

Either that or Gorilla Grodd fell in some white paint :?

[bairdduvessa]

Hey...what's a torie?

in the american revolution Tories were loyalists to the crown

[Vonn Hennigar]

in the american revolution Tories were loyalists to the crown

Now it's what we call Conservatives in Canada.

No really, that's their unofficial name the Torys. Liberals meanwhile are Grits.

The More You Know...

[bairdduvessa]

Now it's what we call Conservatives in Canada.

No really, that's their unofficial name the Torys. Liberals meanwhile are Grits.

The More You Know...

zack braff you are not

[Hock]

Yeah, and Captain America not being in it. This was a good issue, and I'm curious to see how long they can go on without the title character (Meaning until they realize this whole thing was a huge mistake.)

I think they can go a while, not indefinetly, but a couple arcs if they do it right, then they'll have to bring in a new cap or something or switch it from being Captain America to being Winter Soldier and The Falcon or something. I for on would like to see Bru continue telling the stories of the three main characters right now.

[Hock]

Then me, Baird, and Jack are doing our jobs8)

Hey, I do my share.

[Hock]

Now it's what we call Conservatives in Canada.

No really, that's their unofficial name the Torys. Liberals meanwhile are Grits.

The More You Know...

...the less you care.

[bairdduvessa]

...the less you care.

i care

[Hock]

i care

you would.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

you would.

I wouldn't.

[Hock]

I wouldn't.

Well of course you wouldn't Neither do I. We aren't like baird. :shifty:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Weel of course you wouldn't Neither do I. We aren't like baird. :shifty:

No, no. Of course not... :shifty:

[Matt O'Keefe]

Hey, I do my share.

No, too many of your posts are insightful, well-though replies to the topic:x





;)

[Hock]

No, too many of your posts are insightful, well-though replies to the topic:x





;)

Hey, just because I'm on topic some of the time, doesn't mean I am all the time, look at this page for christsakes. :mad:

[Hock]

No, no. Of course not... :shifty:

Never. Never ever. He must never find out... :shifty:

[bairdduvessa]

there is no one like baird

[Matt O'Keefe]

Hey, just because I'm on topic some of the time, doesn't mean I am all the time, look at this page for christsakes. :mad:

Heh, just kidding with you.:p


I doubt most of us are on topic even half the time. Structure sucks.

[bairdduvessa]

Heh, just kidding with you.:p


I doubt most of us are on topic even half the time. Structure sucks.

bring down the structure man!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/38/The_Batman_Adventures_-31.jpg

[Vonn Hennigar]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/24038627564.826.GIF

THE best DCU comic i've read in forever.

The Joker mowing down innocents happily while Tim strains to escape, the way it wrapped up satisfactorily in 1 issue. 6 Issue's in and this run is kicking my ass up and down the block. EASILY the best book DC's publishing right now, even #825 the Royal WHO McGraw issue kicked all kinds of ass and if they didn't list the writer i would have simply assumed it was Paul Dini.

A Perfect Magnificent Comic Book.

10/10

So good i have to take a break before i read # 827-832 because it's awesomenauce will taint any other comic read so close to it.

[Matt O'Keefe]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/24038627564.826.GIF

THE best DCU comic i've read in forever.

The Joker mowing down innocents happily while Tim strains to escape, the way it wrapped up satisfactorily in 1 issue. 6 Issue's in and this run is kicking my ass up and down the block. EASILY the best book DC's publishing right now, even #825 the Royal WHO McGraw issue kicked all kinds of ass and if they didn't list the writer i would have simply assumed it was Paul Dini.

A Perfect Magnificent Comic Book.

10/10

So good i have to take a break before i read # 827-832 because it's awesomenauce will taint any other comic read so close to it.

:thumb:


That's high up there for my favorite Batman stories.

[bairdduvessa]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/24038627564.826.GIF

THE best DCU comic i've read in forever.

The Joker mowing down innocents happily while Tim strains to escape, the way it wrapped up satisfactorily in 1 issue. 6 Issue's in and this run is kicking my ass up and down the block. EASILY the best book DC's publishing right now, even #825 the Royal WHO McGraw issue kicked all kinds of ass and if they didn't list the writer i would have simply assumed it was Paul Dini.

A Perfect Magnificent Comic Book.

10/10

So good i have to take a break before i read # 827-832 because it's awesomenauce will taint any other comic read so close to it.

plus there were marx bro references

[Ray G.]

bring down the structure man!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/38/The_Batman_Adventures_-31.jpg

The series would have been so much better if he was a regular. :rock:

[bairdduvessa]

The series would have been so much better if he was a regular. :rock:

dude its like black magic-one reference to that character and you appear

[UltimateQuintessa]

Hey guys one of my fav. Batman lines involves Spoiler.

It was in the Robin on-going back when Dixon was writing it.

I think it was actually the first time Bats met Spoiler.

Batman: Forget it. Shelve it. Tonight.

So you see he never liked Spoiler. At least as a crimefighter. He knew she couldn't cut it. And he was right.

[Matt O'Keefe]

The series would have been so much better if he was a regular. :rock:

Yes, we really need a V for Vendetta rip-off:roll::p

[Ray G.]

This week from DC Comics!

Countdown #48
Action Comics #850(By Kurt Buseik!)
Amazons Attack #2
Blue Beetle #15
Green Lantern #20
Hawkgirl #64
JSA Classified #26
Justice Society of America #6
Teen Titans #47

All in all, an exceptional week is a-coming!

[UltimateQuintessa]

This week from DC Comics!

Countdown #48
Action Comics #850(By Kurt Buseik!)
Amazons Attack #2
Blue Beetle #15
Green Lantern #20
Hawkgirl #64
JSA Classified #26
Justice Society of America #6
Teen Titans #47

All in all, an exceptional week is a-coming!


Sadly I'm only buying two of those issues. Countdown and JSA.

[Ray G.]

Hey guys one of my fav. Batman lines involves Spoiler.

It was in the Robin on-going back when Dixon was writing it.

I think it was actually the first time Bats met Spoiler.

Batman: Forget it. Shelve it. Tonight.

So you see he never liked Spoiler. At least as a crimefighter. He knew she couldn't cut it. And he was right.

Actually, she did make it. She did a lot of good during her time as Spoiler. In the end, though, I think her only failing was her innocence and naivete. She wasn't cut out for the brutality of Gotham crime-fighting. If Robin had introduced her to the YJ girls early, and let her get some time with the team, things may have turned out very differently.

[UltimateQuintessa]

Actually, she did make it. She did a lot of good during her time as Spoiler. In the end, though, I think her only failing was her innocence and naivete. She wasn't cut out for the brutality of Gotham crime-fighting. If Robin had introduced her to the YJ girls early, and let her get some time with the team, things may have turned out very differently.

Sorry Ray but Robin kind of did. Remember the whole Spoiler/Secert/Robin love triangle?

[Ray G.]

Sorry Ray but Robin kind of did. Remember the whole Spoiler/Secert/Robin love triangle?

All I remember is Secret going on one of her Bipolar streaks and trying to suck Spoiler into a demon dimension. Spoiler never really had any involvement in YJ. I would have prefered if they brought her in after Arrowette retired, as opposed to the mostly useless Empress.

[Vonn Hennigar]

This week from DC Comics!

Countdown #48
Action Comics #850(By Kurt Buseik!)
Amazons Attack #2
Blue Beetle #15
Green Lantern #20
Hawkgirl #64
JSA Classified #26
Justice Society of America #6
Teen Titans #47

All in all, an exceptional week is a-coming!

Pretty damn good week but Amazon's Attack doesn't feel "Real" to me yet and Countdown's been boring me to tears and The Lightning Saga is my least favorite storyline since Peter David brought in Alternate universe Uncle Ben.

Still haven't read any Kurt Busiek Superman though at least not since the horrible Auctioneer Action Comics arc anyway.

[bairdduvessa]

Empress?

[Ray G.]

Pretty damn good week but Amazon's Attack doesn't feel "Real" to me yet and Countdown's been boring me to tears and The Lightning Saga is my least favorite storyline since Peter David brought in Alternate universe Uncle Ben.

Still haven't read any Kurt Busiek Superman though at least not since the horrible Auctioneer Action Comics arc anyway.

Dude, get the Camelot Falls HC.

It might be the single best Superman story since Action #775.

[Matt O'Keefe]

Dude, get the Camelot Falls HC.

It might be the single best Superman story since Action #775.

I can't wait for them to make a paperback of that.

[Ray G.]

Empress?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_%28comics%29

Replacement character. Meh.

[UltimateQuintessa]

All I remember is Secret going on one of her Bipolar streaks and trying to suck Spoiler into a demon dimension. Spoiler never really had any involvement in YJ. I would have prefered if they brought her in after Arrowette retired, as opposed to the mostly useless Empress.

Yeah but Empress added a much need African American hero to the DCU at that time. The only other minority hero at the time was Steel(I think). Plus Empress origin tied directly into Arrowette and her retirement.

Also what the fuck could the girls teach Spoiler at that time. Secret was crazy.(Not her fault look at her brother.) Cassie was a joke at the time.(Just lusting after Superboy. And now she just mourns him. HA!) Arrowette gave up the superhero gig because of Mommy issues(I don't get why the JSA haven't contacted her. She is Ollie's daughter). Empress was a rookie that stood around and looked cute.

My thoughts are Robin didn't want Spoiler around YJ because Superboy would have stolen her away from him.:eek:

[bairdduvessa]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_%28comics%29

Replacement character. Meh.

lame

[Ray G.]

Yeah but Empress added a much need African American hero to the DCU at that time. The only other minority hero at the time was Steel(I think). Plus Empress origin tied directly into Arrowette and her retirement.

Also what the fuck could the girls teach Spoiler at that time. Secret was crazy.(Not her fault look at her brother.) Cassie was a joke at the time.(Just lusting after Superboy. And now she just mourns him. HA!) Arrowette gave up the superhero gig because of Mommy issues(I don't get why the JSA haven't contacted her. She is Ollie's daughter). Empress was a rookie that stood around and looked cute.

My thoughts are Robin didn't want Spoiler around YJ because Superboy would have stolen her away from him.:eek:

I really have no actual problem with Empress, I just hated how towards the end of the book, the story seemed to shift heavily towards the two least-interesting characters, Empress and Lobo.

By the way, if you guys have liked the occasional satirical DC cartoon I've posted in the thread, this is where you can get the whole archive.

cass-cult.deviantart.com

[Vonn Hennigar]

Is Arrowette the new Speedy?

Of all the strange Teen Titans roster moves , taking her out is high on the list and considering the cluster fuck they've made of the Teen Titans that's high uh scorn.

[UltimateQuintessa]

Is Arrowette the new Speedy?

Of all the strange Teen Titans roster moves , taking her out is high on the list and considering the cluster fuck they've made of the Teen Titans that's high uh scorn.

No it's some Aids character Kevin Smith created and Winnick sexaully abused in Green Arrow.

[Ray G.]

By the way, the comment about Cassie essentially being a joke during YJ(I wouldn't be that harsh, but she was sort of Spoiler with power gauntlets) reminded me of something in POTC today.

I've got to be the only one who flashed back to the YJ leadership vote during the Pirate King elections. It was just so gleefully absurd. :lol:

[bairdduvessa]

By the way, the comment about Cassie essentially being a joke during YJ(I wouldn't be that harsh, but she was sort of Spoiler with power gauntlets) reminded me of something in POTC today.

I've got to be the only one who flashed back to the YJ leadership vote during the Pirate King elections. It was just so gleefully absurd. :lol:

POTC?

[Vonn Hennigar]

So they have 2 teen girl arrow uh wielders?

Why did they create the 2nd one? Whichever one that is.

[UltimateQuintessa]

By the way, the comment about Cassie essentially being a joke during YJ(I wouldn't be that harsh, but she was sort of Spoiler with power gauntlets) reminded me of something in POTC today.

I've got to be the only one who flashed back to the YJ leadership vote during the Pirate King elections. It was just so gleefully absurd. :lol:


Cassie had her moments in YJ but Secret always was my fav. girl of the book. I wish DC would put her in something again. If they put her in Shadowpact I'd buy that book.

[Ray G.]

Is Arrowette the new Speedy?

Of all the strange Teen Titans roster moves , taking her out is high on the list and considering the cluster fuck they've made of the Teen Titans that's high uh scorn.

No, Arrowette was another character. She sort of took Speedy's place for a while as a teen archer, but was never really associated with Green Arrow, although there were some rumblings that he would be revealed as her father. Never happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrowette

The new Speedy is Mia Dearden. She was a teen streetwalker taken in by Oliver Queen in Kevin Smith's run. She was actually a pretty good character, until Winick made her a walking AIDS token. She was on the Titans for all of, er, five minutes. I liked having her there, though. She seems to fit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedy_%28Mia_Dearden%29

I'm sort of partial to Cissie over Mia, personally.

[Hock]

there is no one like baird

Say what you will about God, he doesn't often make the same mistake twice. :p

[bairdduvessa]

So they have 2 teen girl arrow uh wielders?

Why did they create the 2nd one? Whichever one that is.

ask kevin smith

[Hock]

Heh, just kidding with you.:p


I doubt most of us are on topic even half the time. Structure sucks.

I know you're kidding, I'm not that easily offinded. :D

[Ray G.]

POTC?

Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End. :rock:

[Ray G.]

So they have 2 teen girl arrow uh wielders?

Why did they create the 2nd one? Whichever one that is.

Because the first one is retired. Read the wikis. :razz:

[bairdduvessa]

Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End. :rock:

i am not going to see it for two weeks damn you!

[Hock]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/24038627564.826.GIF

THE best DCU comic i've read in forever.

The Joker mowing down innocents happily while Tim strains to escape, the way it wrapped up satisfactorily in 1 issue. 6 Issue's in and this run is kicking my ass up and down the block. EASILY the best book DC's publishing right now, even #825 the Royal WHO McGraw issue kicked all kinds of ass and if they didn't list the writer i would have simply assumed it was Paul Dini.

A Perfect Magnificent Comic Book.

10/10

So good i have to take a break before i read # 827-832 because it's awesomenauce will taint any other comic read so close to it.



As I said when this came out, both the best depiction of Joker and the best depiction of Tim I've seen in a while. Dini is a genius and the opnly writer currently at DC that I think can write the Joker.

[UltimateQuintessa]

Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End. :rock:

:no:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=114641

[Hock]

dude its like black magic-one reference to that character and you appear

It's really kind of scary. or creepy. OR BOTH!!! :scared:

[Ray G.]

Cassie had her moments in YJ but Secret always was my fav. girl of the book. I wish DC would put her in something again. If they put her in Shadowpact I'd buy that book.

She rocked. Such a fascinating character, even if they painted her in way too broad strokes some times. The issue where she learned her origin from Spectre was fantastic. And her brother was an awesome villain.

However, she's completely depowered now, so I don't know if Shadowpact would be the best fit for her. I would definitely love to see her again, though. And one day, I may be able to help you with that. ;)

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End. :rock:

Was it good? I'm heading out to see it in a couple hours.

[Hock]

This week from DC Comics!

Countdown #48
Action Comics #850(By Kurt Buseik!)
Amazons Attack #2
Blue Beetle #15
Green Lantern #20
Hawkgirl #64
JSA Classified #26
Justice Society of America #6
Teen Titans #47

All in all, an exceptional week is a-coming!

Countdown, and the way things are going it will probably be my last ishue, Action, GL, JSA, and TT.

[Ray G.]

Was it good? I'm heading out to see it in a couple hours.

Ohhhh.....yes it was good. It was not perfect. There were a few scenes that were so bad it hurt. But 90% of the movie was pure unadulterated awesomesauce.

[Ray G.]

Countdown, and the way things are going it will probably be my last ishue, Action, GL, JSA, and TT.

But you'd be dropping it right before the first McKeever issue....:(

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

This week from DC Comics!

Countdown #48
Action Comics #850(By Kurt Buseik!)
Amazons Attack #2
Blue Beetle #15
Green Lantern #20
Hawkgirl #64
JSA Classified #26
Justice Society of America #6
Teen Titans #47

All in all, an exceptional week is a-coming!

LCS: GL, TT
DCBS: Coundtown, JSoA

[Hock]

i am not going to see it for two weeks damn you!

I'm going to see it on Sunday. Maybe.

[bairdduvessa]

But you'd be dropping it right before the first McKeever issue....:(

i think mckeever needs to bribe us

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Ohhhh.....yes it was good. It was not perfect. There were a few scenes that were so bad it hurt. But 90% of the movie was pure unadulterated awesomesauce.

So, better than the second, then?

[Ray G.]

So better than the second, then?

I thought the second was pure unadulterated awesomesauce as well. I feel that this one went back to its roots a bit, though. More high adventure and pirate madness, as opposed to the more horror/sci-fi feel of the second. There's a healthy mix of both this time. And the ending is fan-flipping-tastic. Make sure to stay until after the credits.

[Hock]

But you'd be dropping it right before the first McKeever issue....:(

If, and that's a big fucking if, the next issue is good I'll stick around for the McKeever issue. But if the next issue is another mediocre one, well, I'm not going to be sheeling out for this every week if I'm only liking 1/5 issues.

[UltimateQuintessa]

She rocked. Such a fascinating character, even if they painted her in way too broad strokes some times. The issue where she learned her origin from Spectre was fantastic. And her brother was an awesome villain.

However, she's completely depowered now, so I don't know if Shadowpact would be the best fit for her. I would definitely love to see her again, though. And one day, I may be able to help you with that. ;)

If one day you do, don't forget her meeting with Darkseid. Because that was one of the coolest moments in YJ history. "I was talking to some guy named Doug-side" :eek:

Same issue Bart jumped in the Forever People's circle.:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Ray G.]

If, and that's a big fucking if, the next issue is good I'll stick around for the McKeever issue. But if the next issue is another mediocre one, well, I'm not going to be sheeling out for this every week if I'm only liking 1/5 issues.

Well, this one's Beechen, so I'm hopeful. It also looks to move things forward a lot and kick off the New Gods story.

[UltimateQuintessa]

Hey any of you guys going to Chicago Con this year?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I thought the second was pure unadulterated awesomesauce as well. I feel that this one went back to its roots a bit, though. More high adventure and pirate madness, as opposed to the more horror/sci-fi feel of the second. There's a healthy mix of both this time. And the ending is fan-flipping-tastic. Make sure to stay until after the credits.

Excellent. The ending of the 2nd one is where it fell apart for me. If this ends well, I will be extremely happy.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Hey any of you guys going to Chicago Con this year?

Doubtful. I'd like to but I got no money... :-(

[Ray G.]

If one day you do, don't forget her meeting with Darkseid. Because that was one of the coolest moments in YJ history. "I was talking to some guy named Doug-side" :eek:

Same issue Bart jumped in the Forever People's circle.:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

The whole Secret/Darkseid thing was hysterical. Remember when YJ was stranded on Apokalips during Our Worlds at War, and Darkseid gave Secret ice cream while her friends were being tortured by Granny Goodness? :scared:

[Ray G.]

Hey any of you guys going to Chicago Con this year?

Not likely. Again. :(

[Matt O'Keefe]

Hey any of you guys going to Chicago Con this year?

Very likely. It sucks that there won't be Bendis or Bru, though. They're the ones that I missed at NYCC and wanted to get shit signed.

[bairdduvessa]

can't

[UltimateQuintessa]

The whole Secret/Darkseid thing was hysterical. Remember when YJ was stranded on Apokalips during Our Worlds at War, and Darkseid gave Secret ice cream while her friends were being tortured by Granny Goodness? :scared:

Yes that was great too.:eek:
I still love that Our worlds at war cover where it said "Young Justice recruited by President Lex"

And the Superboy cover with the words "What I've seen in this war I'll take with me to my grave." Wonder if he thought about Lil' Lobo when he was dying after the Superboy prime fight. :eek:

[UltimateQuintessa]

Very likely. It sucks that there won't be Bendis or Bru, though. They're the ones that I missed at NYCC and wanted to get shit signed.

I'll sign some New Avengers or Captian America's for ya:eek:

[Matt O'Keefe]

I'll sign some New Avengers or Captian America's for ya:eek:

:no:

I'd get USM, Alias, Powers, and Daredevil signed by Bendis. Not Avengers.

[Hock]

Hey any of you guys going to Chicago Con this year?

Current plans are for yes, but it looks like I'll be quitting my job and getting a new one, and in that case I might not be able to get the time off.

[Hock]

Very likely. It sucks that there won't be Bendis or Bru, though. They're the ones that I missed at NYCC and wanted to get shit signed.

They were both at ECCC. HAHAHAHAHA! I win again. I got some comics signed by each, and Bru was giving out free issues of Tom Strong.

[Ray G.]

Yes that was great too.:eek:
I still love that Our worlds at war cover where it said "Young Justice recruited by President Lex"

And the Superboy cover with the words "What I've seen in this war I'll take with me to my grave." Wonder if he thought about Lil' Lobo when he was dying after the Superboy prime fight. :eek:

Ah, yes. Lil' Lobo. He died, and then came back scrawny. And dated Empress.

I hope not. If I was him and that was my last thought, I'd be like "Get out! I want to think about that time I walked in on Cassie in the shower!"

[Matt O'Keefe]

They were both at ECCC. HAHAHAHAHA! I win again. I got some comics signed by each, and Bru was giving out free issues of Tom Strong.

:x



Hopefully they'll be at either NYCC or Chicago next year. Those are the only ones I can really go to, although I might be able to make it to San Diego.

[UltimateQuintessa]

Current plans are for yes, but it looks like I'll be quitting my job and getting a new one, and in that case I might not be able to get the time off.

When you start tell them that you have plans on the con dates. Most employers are understanding. Especially giving them notice 2 months ahead of time.

I was hoping a lot of us to get together at the con and have the Countdown thread come to life.:cool:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Current plans are for yes, but it looks like I'll be quitting my job and getting a new one, and in that case I might not be able to get the time off.

You are quitting your job, then? What ever happened with the email you were sending?

[UltimateQuintessa]

Ah, yes. Lil' Lobo. He died, and then came back scrawny. And dated Empress.

I hope not. If I was him and that was my last thought, I'd be like "Get out! I want to think about that time I walked in on Cassie in the shower!"

Or the time he told Secret her first name should be Victoria.

[bairdduvessa]

Or the time he told Secret her first name should be Victoria.

now that's funny

[Hock]

When you start tell them that you have plans on the con dates. Most employers are understanding. Especially giving them notice 2 months ahead of time.

I was hoping a lot of us to get together at the con and have the Countdown thread come to life.:cool:

Except I don't know about you guys, but up here companies aren't required to give you vacation time until you've been with them a year, and even the ones that will let you earlier require 6 months at least.


You are quitting your job, then? What ever happened with the email you were sending?

Not confirmed yet, but almost certainly. My Supervisor, Assistant Supervisor, and Account Manager are having a meeting on Monday that I may get called into or I may meet with the Account Manager after.

[bairdduvessa]

sorry about the loss of work

[UltimateQuintessa]

Except I don't know about you guys, but up here companies aren't required to give you vacation time until you've been with them a year, and even the ones that will let you earlier require 6 months at least.



Not confirmed yet, but almost certainly. My Supervisor, Assistant Supervisor, and Account Manager are having a meeting on Monday that I may get called into or I may meet with the Account Manager after.

Wait your Canadian?

[Matt O'Keefe]

What exactly do you do, Hock?

[Hock]

sorry about the loss of work

I'm not going to get fired, and I'm not going to quit until I have something lined up, so I'm not worried or anything.


Wait your Canadian?

Yes I am.


What exactly do you do, Hock?

Security at a mall.

[UltimateQuintessa]

Hock I guess I could have also looked at your location.

The world's greatest detective I am not.

But I still think you'll be able to get off. If nothing else use the death in the family excuse.

[bairdduvessa]

Security at a mall.

:snort:

[Hock]

Hock I guess I could have also looked at your location.

The world's greatest detective I am not.

But I still think you'll be able to get off. If nothing else use the death in the family excuse.

I'm not saying I won't be able to, though if I do it'll probably be without pay. I'm just realistic in that I may not be able to, depending on what Job I get.


:snort:

What?

[bairdduvessa]

I'm not saying I won't be able to, though if I do it'll probably be without pay. I'm just realistic in that I may not be able to, depending on what Job I get.



What?

i laughed

[Hock]

i laughed

Why? :cry:

Is this because I implied you were a mistake?

[bairdduvessa]

Why? :cry:

Is this because I implied you were a mistake?

wait? what? lol

[Ray G.]

And once again, I'm lost.

Good luck, Hock.

[Foggy's Pal]

:snort:

Damn:sad:

[bairdduvessa]

And once again, I'm lost.

Good luck, Hock.

dude i'm lost-and i maybe started the derail

[bairdduvessa]

Damn:sad:

oh relax i was teasing

[Hock]

wait? what? lol

Maybe you missed it.

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showpost.php?p=3120844&postcount=3330

[bairdduvessa]

Maybe you missed it.

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showpost.php?p=3120844&postcount=3330

yup i missed it. and god doesn't exist

[Hock]

yup i missed it. and god doesn't exist

Well I know that, that's what makes it a joke. :p

[bairdduvessa]

Well I know that, that's what makes it a joke. :p

:D

[Hock]

:D

:scared:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Not confirmed yet, but almost certainly. My Supervisor, Assistant Supervisor, and Account Manager are having a meeting on Monday that I may get called into or I may meet with the Account Manager after.

Best of luck, dude.

[bairdduvessa]

:scared:

you had better be scared!

[Hock]

Best of luck, dude.

Thanks.


you had better be scared!

:blah:

[Matt O'Keefe]

Hmmmm..... at this rate we'll have killed this thread by about Countdown #40.


Although it seems like most of us are dropping Countdown anyway, so itt might not make much sense to count by what issue it's on.

[bairdduvessa]

Hmmmm..... at this rate we'll have killed this thread by about Countdown #40.


Although it seems like most of us are dropping Countdown anyway, so itt might not make much sense to count by what issue it's on.

my first shipment isn't here yet

[Matt O'Keefe]

my first shipment isn't here yet

Heh. I've decided it's not awful, but not worth the commitment. If I like what I see in the next year, I'll pick it up in trade.



Psssss...... pay the extra $8 for weekly shipping;)

[Hock]

Heh. I've decided it's not awful, but not worth the commitment. If I like what I see in the next year, I'll pick it up in trade.



Psssss...... pay the extra $8 for weekly shipping;)

That's pretty much my thoughts on the book. mediocre and not worth 12 bucks a month.

[bairdduvessa]

Heh. I've decided it's not awful, but not worth the commitment. If I like what I see in the next year, I'll pick it up in trade.



Psssss...... pay the extra $8 for weekly shipping;)

can't

[Matt O'Keefe]

That's pretty much my thoughts on the book. mediocre and not worth 12 bucks a month.

Yup. I'd rather buy a trade of something I know I'll enjoy, like the next volume of Preacher or Fables (trying to catch up on those.)

[Hock]

Yup. I'd rather buy a trade of something I know I'll enjoy, like the next volume of Preacher or Fables (trying to catch up on those.)

I do not own any of preacher, but I have all of Fables so far in trades. I think there's a new one shortly.

My high priority for trades right now is... Queen and Country, Gotham Central, Sandman, there are some others as well.

[Matt O'Keefe]

I do not own any of preacher, but I have all of Fables so far in trades. I think there's a new one shortly.

My high priority for trades right now is... Queen and Country, Gotham Central, Sandman, there are some others as well.

Those are definitely up there for me. I've only read the first 20 issues of Sandman. I'm buying it in Absolute form. But I think my library has all the trades, so I'll just check them out there so I don't have to wait a few years to complete the series.


My wish list must be around 500 books total.

[Hock]

Those are definitely up there for me. I've only read the first 20 issues of Sandman. I'm buying it in Absolute form. But I think my library has all the trades, so I'll just check them out there so I don't have to wait a few years to complete the series.


My wish list must be around 500 books total.

Yeah, that the things I'm looking at immediately. The ones that are high on the list, though I'm looking to add some more indie books to that list, I want to branch out.

[Matt O'Keefe]

Yeah, that the things I'm looking at immediately. The ones that are high on the list, though I'm looking to add some more indie books to that list, I want to branch out.

I'd pretty much consider Queen and Country indy books. But I am looking for some of the really far out stuff as well.

[Hock]

I'd pretty much consider Queen and Country indy books. But I am looking for some of the really far out stuff as well.

Yeah, I picked up Blankets a few weeks ago, and I've gotten some Silent Devil Stuff. Queen and Country is indie, but yeah, I want the more out there stuff. Thinking about some of the Jamie S. Rich stuff, and David B. both writers come highly recommended to me.

[Olivier E.]

The Dr.Fate series was cancelled at the last minute. Oresumably it's still coming but god knows why?

Just throw him in the JSA where he belongs. As for who it is, like everyone else it's the 4th or 5th Dr.Fate which drives seemingly only me mad with anger.

The ape was The classic body of the Ultra-Humanite aka DC Comics first real supervillain.

Either that or Gorilla Grodd fell in some white paint :?

Thanks :)

Two mor questions?

In Superman/Batman, they never met the Metal Men before, is that normal? Or is it a past story?

On the cover there's written Countdown 49, does that mean, that that what happens in this issue takes place during Countdown 49? Or just a sales gimmick like the WWH banners at Marvel?

[SteveZegers]

Thanks :)

Two mor questions?

In Superman/Batman, they never met the Metal Men before, is that normal? Or is it a past story?

On the cover there's written Countdown 49, does that mean, that that what happens in this issue takes place during Countdown 49? Or just a sales gimmick like the WWH banners at Marvel?

They have met the Metal Men. I think it was supposed to show that they didn't know that Magnus had made new ones. (They had been destroyed. They get destroyed alot)

[THAT Sean!]

On the cover there's written Countdown 49, does that mean, that that what happens in this issue takes place during Countdown 49? Or just a sales gimmick like the WWH banners at Marvel?

I'm pretty sure that's just to show the title's intended publishing week.

[Olivier E.]

They have met the Metal Men. I think it was supposed to show that they didn't know that Magnus had made new ones. (They had been destroyed. They get destroyed alot)




I'm pretty sure that's just to show the title's intended publishing week.

Thanks :)

[Ray G.]

I'm pretty sure that's just to show the title's intended publishing week.

That's an interesting style. I just hope not too much of Countdown is devoted to parallel scenes. For people getting into the DCU, it's cool. But for someone who buys 99% percent of DC books...:)

[The Doctor]

Plus, she's one of those "victim" villains, much like Two-Face. Batman is always a little more reluctant to take them out. He does it, but he generally acts like a moron for a few minutes first.
Yeah that too.

Then me, Baird, and Jack are doing our jobs8)

Me too:(

[Deej]

My God!! Aquaman #51 sucks so fucking bad! I can't get through this title anymore. Tad Williams is either a horrible horrible writer or he was given the book with next to no information and couldn't get his hands on any back issues. The dialogue SUCKS. I'm going to see if I can cancel any unpackaged Aquaman comics I still have on DCBS.

BTW...Trials of Shazam totally fucking sucks too. Boy...did Winick really screw up these characters.

I wonder if some of the writers who are also fans of DC are shaking their heads at what Didio is doing...

[Ray G.]

My God!! Aquaman #51 sucks so fucking bad! I can't get through this title anymore. Tad Williams is either a horrible horrible writer or he was given the book with next to no information and couldn't get his hands on any back issues. The dialogue SUCKS. I'm going to see if I can cancel any unpackaged Aquaman comics I still have on DCBS.

BTW...Trials of Shazam totally fucking sucks too. Boy...did Winick really screw up these characters.

I wonder if some of the writers who are also fans of DC are shaking their heads at what Didio is doing...

Dude, I am about to fill you with awesomeness at the stupid.

Tad Williams chewing out Aquaman fans for not supporting his "vision" and engaging in a bit of emotional blackmail.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=113888

[Olivier E.]

who's orin?

[Ray G.]

who's orin?

The real Aquaman. The one who was turned into Davy Jones in WW3.

[Matt O'Keefe]

Dude, I am about to fill you with awesomeness at the stupid.

Tad Williams chewing out Aquaman fans for not supporting his "vision" and engaging in a bit of emotional blackmail.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=113888

Tad Williams is an idiot. I don't get why he (or even worse, DC editorial) felt that he had the right to kill off a 40 year-old character.

[Olivier E.]

The real Aquaman. The one who was turned into Davy Jones in WW3.

But Josh Middleton said he drew young Aquaman and DC forced him to draw the old version. :-?

Is he dead now or in limbo?

[Ray G.]

But Josh Middleton said he drew young Aquaman and DC forced him to draw the old version. :-?

Is he dead now or in limbo?

He was casually killed off by a new, unexplained villain in the first issue of Williams' run.

[Olivier E.]

He was casually killed off by a new, unexplained villain in the first issue of Williams' run.

wow.

Was it explained who the new Aquaman is? His son?

[Ray G.]

wow.

Was it explained who the new Aquaman is? His son?

Random guy. Son of a scientist.

Buseik made it work, but when you strip away his epic plotting and the classy, haunting art of Guice, you get....this.

[lonesomefool]

Wow, those comments by Tad Williams are enough to turn me off his work forever....oh, wait, it sucks anyway ;)

Seriously I hate writer's and artists who try to defend their suckiness by stating it's their vision, hey, lay off the bong you jackass, it's not your "vision" that people dislike, it's your shitty story.

[John Drake]

Dude, I am about to fill you with awesomeness at the stupid.

Tad Williams chewing out Aquaman fans for not supporting his "vision" and engaging in a bit of emotional blackmail.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=113888

Thank you so much for this :lol:

[Vonn Hennigar]

What issue is Trials Of Shazam on?

This mini feels like it's been going on FOREVER.

Thankfully i despise everything Captain Marvel related and Judd Winick is my new personal hero for pissing off CM fans. Hopefully he gets put on a Plastic Man mini next.

[Deej]

Dude, I am about to fill you with awesomeness at the stupid.

Tad Williams chewing out Aquaman fans for not supporting his "vision" and engaging in a bit of emotional blackmail.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=113888

wow...that really blew my mind. Tad Williams is...out of touch with reality.

[Hock]

Dude, I am about to fill you with awesomeness at the stupid.

Tad Williams chewing out Aquaman fans for not supporting his "vision" and engaging in a bit of emotional blackmail.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=113888

That's just so... wrong. It's clear from this that Tad Williams does not understand the comics industry at all.

[Hock]

Wow, those comments by Tad Williams are enough to turn me off his work forever....oh, wait, it sucks anyway ;)

Seriously I hate writer's and artists who try to defend their suckiness by stating it's their vision, hey, lay off the bong you jackass, it's not your "vision" that people dislike, it's your shitty story.

I'm pretty sure people hate his vision as well as how he's executing it.

[Deej]

I'm pretty sure people hate his vision as well as how he's executing it.

His characters, plot, and dialogue are SEVERELY lacking. I'm not too thrilled he killed off Orin, when his character took an interesting, mysterious role under Busiek, but then in the next issue having the characters continually comment that you never know if he'll make a surprising return from death...is kind of stupid. Especially when his dead body is right in front of them. Oh yeah, the JLA is there...Batman is withstanding all that pressure without help from GL and Bart is mysteriously with them too. And then you have a squid head character with a fanboy attitude like Ray's making all of these stupid comments...and I could only get halfway through the issue. Tad should not be writing DC comics...he seems unfamiliar with the characters.

[The Doctor]

Dude, I am about to fill you with awesomeness at the stupid.

Tad Williams chewing out Aquaman fans for not supporting his "vision" and engaging in a bit of emotional blackmail.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=113888

Wow that's just wrong.

[jamestolliver]

Dude, I am about to fill you with awesomeness at the stupid.

Tad Williams chewing out Aquaman fans for not supporting his "vision" and engaging in a bit of emotional blackmail.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=113888

I love that he believes that he has absolute control over Aquaman and if the series gets cancelled we will never see the old Aquaman again. It’s like he's blackmailing the reader, or at least trying to hold them at ransom. All kinds of awesome.

Oh yeah, I'm back!

[Deej]

Oh man...I went to the DC Messageboard for a bit to see all the Aquaman crap and then check in on the Atom discussions... What a fucking chaotic mess! I just want half the people there to shut the fuck up!!

Let's keep this thread a little hidden gem!

[Ray G.]

I love that he believes that he has absolute control over Aquaman and if the series gets cancelled we will never see the old Aquaman again. It’s like he's blackmailing the reader, or at least trying to hold them at ransom. All kinds of awesome.

Oh yeah, I'm back!

Yay! Your ascent to the JLA continues! :D

I really think Tad Williams has no clue. Aquaman will likely be cancelled by 60, and this new guy will be a footnote in two years.

[Ray G.]

Oh man...I went to the DC Messageboard for a bit to see all the Aquaman crap and then check in on the Atom discussions... What a fucking chaotic mess! I just want half the people there to shut the fuck up!!

Let's keep this thread a little hidden gem!

The only other board that's really worth "recruiting" from is Comic Bloc. I find them to be a pretty rational crew, even though the very structured and heavily moderated posting there doesn't lend itself to great camraderie. But there's a lot of really passionate, informed DC fans there.

I don't get wierd looks when I talk about Anarky, Outburst, or Spoiler THERE. :miffed:

[The Doctor]

Oh man...I went to the DC Messageboard for a bit to see all the Aquaman crap and then check in on the Atom discussions... What a fucking chaotic mess! I just want half the people there to shut the fuck up!!

Let's keep this thread a little hidden gem!
Whay what's happening over there?

It amazes me how much I post in here considering I just read Detective.

Yay! Your ascent to the JLA continues! :D

I really think Tad Williams has no clue. Aquaman will likely be cancelled by 60, and this new guy will be a footnote in two years.
Reminds me how Zimmerman was when he got insulted.

[jamestolliver]

Yay! Your ascent to the JLA continues! :D

I really think Tad Williams has no clue. Aquaman will likely be cancelled by 60, and this new guy will be a footnote in two years.

Yay!

Not to derail the thread but going to high school and having a girlfriend really cuts down on my ability to post in comic book forums. Fucking girlfriend and International Baccalaureate Program!

[John Drake]

Aquaman & Hawkman

The hilarious adventures of Orin and a guy with wings trying to fly under the sea.

[Foolish Mortal]

Dude, I am about to fill you with awesomeness at the stupid.

Tad Williams chewing out Aquaman fans for not supporting his "vision" and engaging in a bit of emotional blackmail.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=113888
Young creators should take note of that thread on how not to have a dialogue with readers.

[Ray G.]

Aquaman & Hawkman

The hilarious adventures of Orin and a guy with wings trying to fly under the sea.

I'd buy it.

Really, they just need to go to Will Pfeifer and say "We're so very sorry. Here, please fix this for us" and let him have a miniseries to try to make a go of it.

[The Doctor]

Aquaman & Hawkman

The hilarious adventures of Orin and a guy with wings trying to fly under the sea.

I'd buy it:shifty:

[Hock]

The only other board that's really worth "recruiting" from is Comic Bloc. I find them to be a pretty rational crew, even though the very structured and heavily moderated posting there doesn't lend itself to great camraderie. But there's a lot of really passionate, informed DC fans there.

I don't get wierd looks when I talk about Anarky, Outburst, or Spoiler THERE. :miffed:

So that's where all the weirdo's like you congregate to be among their own kind. Good to know.

[John Drake]

I'd buy it.

Really, they just need to go to Will Pfeifer and say "We're so very sorry. Here, please fix this for us" and let him have a miniseries to try to make a go of it.
:rock:

But the problem is..they would never do that. It wasn't selling under Pfeifer, and it won't sell under Pfeifer now. They need Mark Waid and Mike Wieringo on that book NOW!

I'd buy it:shifty:
Orin would be Deadpool and Hawkman would be Cable. And Hawkman would challenge Orin to a race in the sky.

[jamestolliver]

I was just rereading Morrison first JLA arc, New World Order, and realized for the first time that in the scene where the White Martians are performing public executions, they had already killed Wolverine and were about to kill Dr. Doom. I got a good chuckle out of that.

[The Doctor]

:rock:

But the problem is..they would never do that. It wasn't selling under Pfeifer, and it won't sell under Pfeifer now. They need Mark Waid and Mike Wieringo on that book NOW!

Orin would be Deadpool and Hawkman would be Cable. And Hawkman would challenge Orin to a race in the sky.

Indeed.

Which Aquaman is it in Kingdom come?

[lonesomefool]

Yay!

Not to derail the thread but going to high school and having a girlfriend really cuts down on my ability to post in comic book forums. Fucking girlfriend and International Baccalaureate Program!

:)

Yeah, I'm kinda in the same position, I still post quite a bit, but not as much as I used to, I'm in the middle of switching jobs, and me and the girlfriend have been spending quite a bit of time together. Plus, I'm generally happier so I find it harder to post about how much I dislike Dan Didio's direction for DC ;)

[John Drake]

Indeed.

Which Aquaman is it in Kingdom come?
Haven't read that yet.

[lonesomefool]

Aquaman is a joke character in the eye's of many, I mean Entourage pretty much pointed out all the stuff most fans see when it comes to Aquaman, the guy is best known for riding a sea horse and wearing orange and green. I think the character had his chance to become popular again, and that was with Busiek and Guice, but the delay's killed the momentum of the character and then Williams came on and the quality dropped as well.

Same thing happened with Hawkman, DC had that character with some momentum with back-to-back solid runs by Johns/Morales and Palmiotti and Gray/Bennett, and then Chaykin and Simonson came on, the quality dropped and now the book is canned.

[Ray G.]

Aquaman is a joke character in the eye's of many, I mean Entourage pretty much pointed out all the stuff most fans see when it comes to Aquaman, the guy is best known for riding a sea horse and wearing orange and green. I think the character had his chance to become popular again, and that was with Busiek and Guice, but the delay's killed the momentum of the character and then Williams came on and the quality dropped as well.

Same thing happened with Hawkman, DC had that character with some momentum with back-to-back solid runs by Johns/Morales and Palmiotti and Gray/Bennett, and then Chaykin and Simonson came on, the quality dropped and now the book is canned.

Not to mention that the book stopped being about Hawkman.

Hawkgirl is a pretty weak character who only Johns has really been able to make us care about.

[The Doctor]

Haven't read that yet.

I enjoyed it more second reading.

[John Drake]

I enjoyed it more second reading.

I'll get to it enventually. The art looks amazing from what I have seen.

[The Doctor]

I'll get to it enventually. The art looks amazing from what I have seen.

The art for me probably made the book better than it is.

The main problem I had with it is I had no bloody clue who anyone was.

I know my way around DC but there was a lot of new characters and I was like 'wait they're releated to who now?'

However once I read all the special features at the back I understood who everyone was and that's why I enjoyed it more second time round.

[John Drake]

The art for me probably made the book better than it is.

The main problem I had with it is I had no bloody clue who anyone was.

I know my way around DC but there was a lot of new characters and I was like 'wait they're releated to who now?'

However once I read all the special features at the back I understood who everyone was and that's why I enjoyed it more second time round.
Ahh, I think I'll be fine. Over the last two years I've learned a lot about DC. I like that badass Superman!

[The Doctor]

Ahh, I think I'll be fine. Over the last two years I've learned a lot about DC. I like that badass Superman!

It wasn't exsisting ones it was new ones that were linked to old ones that puzzled me slightly.

[John Drake]

It wasn't exsisting ones it was new ones that were linked to old ones that puzzled me slightly.

Ohhh okay, I'll keep that in mind.

[The Doctor]

Ohhh okay, I'll keep that in mind.

:D

The last part and the epilogue really turned it around.

For me anyway.

[John Drake]

:D

The last part and the epilogue really turned it around.

For me anyway.

Did you enjoy it more than Marvels?

[The Doctor]

Did you enjoy it more than Marvels?

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I haven't read Marvels yet.

[John Drake]

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I haven't read Marvels yet.

me neither. I was asking to decide which one to read first :lol:

[The Doctor]

me neither. I was asking to decide which one to read first :lol:

Flip a coin.

[jamestolliver]

Did you enjoy it more than Marvels?

I enjoyed more then Marvels but I really enjoyed both.

[bairdduvessa]

I enjoyed more then Marvels but I really enjoyed both.

same here.

i read marvels senior year of highschool (so 8 years ago) and it was great. Kingdom Come about 3 years ago.

Marvels is more well how do i describe it. It feels more realistic. and Is fun. Kingdom Come has more of a wonderment to it.

[GrandeMaestro Fünke]

Both are good, but I think Marvels might be a disappointed when read after Kingdom Come.

[bairdduvessa]

Both are good, but I think Marvels might be a disappointed when read after Kingdom Come.

i can see that.

the art is amazing though

[Matt O'Keefe]

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I haven't read Marvels yet.

It's of my personal opinion that Marvels might be the best mainstream comic ever (as in everything Marvel and DC ever published)

[Matt O'Keefe]

For any Friday Night Lights fans out there (in other words Ray orDJ) I've been watching the first half of the season online, since I came to it late. Fantastic, and I love the start of Matt & Julie's relationship. I'm going to watch episode 6 and then watch them chronologically since they're starting with the seventh when they do reruns on Sunday over the Summer. I can't wait for the DVD and then the second season. Who wants to make the official thread when it comes closer to the start of season 2? This is definitely my favorite show on television, the only ones that come close to it for me are Studio 60 and LOST.

[Vonn Hennigar]

The next creative team on Justice League Of America...

Writers - Jim Krueger and Alex Ross
Penciller - Doug Braithwaite
Covers - Alex Ross

You heard it here first.

[Ray G.]

The next creative team on Justice League Of America...

Writers - Jim Krueger and Alex Ross
Penciller - Doug Braithwaite
Covers - Alex Ross

You heard it here first.

If they manage to pull that off...

Magnificence.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I'd love it. The only problem would be cutting Ed Benes loose which seems like not exactly a great move to make for morale.

Hey thanks for launching our number 1 title and doing a great job Ed but here go do this arc of Aquaman now.

[Ray G.]

I'd love it. The only problem would be cutting Ed Benes loose which seems like not exactly a great move to make for morale.

Hey thanks for launching our number 1 title and doing a great job Ed but here go do this arc of Aquaman now.

Hm...maybe Benes goes to GA/BC? That's a title needing a high-profile launch, and he did a great job drawing Canary and the Arrows.

[Matt O'Keefe]

The next creative team on Justice League Of America...

Writers - Jim Krueger and Alex Ross
Penciller - Doug Braithwaite
Covers - Alex Ross

You heard it here first.

Wishful thinking or do you have something to back this up with?

[Vonn Hennigar]

Hm...maybe Benes goes to GA/BC? That's a title needing a high-profile launch, and he did a great job drawing Canary and the Arrows.

Maybe. DC sure seems in a hurry to launch that book considering their double shipping both the GA and BC mini's 2 months in a row so far.

Any word on the art-team on Wonder Woman when Gail Simone takes over?

[lonesomefool]

Maybe. DC sure seems in a hurry to launch that book considering their double shipping both the GA and BC mini's 2 months in a row so far.

Any word on the art-team on Wonder Woman when Gail Simone takes over?

Not sure on who is the new Wonder Woman artist, I kinda assumed that Dodson was sticking around, but I am probably wrong on that.

That JLA team would be interesting, if only because it would be interesting to see Ross write in the DCU of today, since he seem's to hate any change.

[Ray G.]

Not sure on who is the new Wonder Woman artist, I kinda assumed that Dodson was sticking around, but I am probably wrong on that.

That JLA team would be interesting, if only because it would be interesting to see Ross write in the DCU of today, since he seem's to hate any change.

The thing is, he probably won't. Ross would likely refuse to use several of Meltzer's characters because they're too modern. Vixen and Hawkgirl, for sure, are on the way out if he takes over.

[bairdduvessa]

personally alex ross and his obsession with the silver age reemergence would turn me off-if i read it

[bairdduvessa]

night folks

[Vonn Hennigar]

The thing is, he probably won't. Ross would likely refuse to use several of Meltzer's characters because they're too modern. Vixen and Hawkgirl, for sure, are on the way out if he takes over.

In every JLA layout i've seen him do, Alex Ross has Hawkgirl in it.

Someone needs to put a bullet in Geo-Idiots head first before any other roster shift takes place.

[The Doctor]

It's of my personal opinion that Marvels might be the best mainstream comic ever (as in everything Marvel and DC ever published)

I'll get round to it eventually.

[Ray G.]

In every JLA layout i've seen him do, Alex Ross has Hawkgirl in it.

Someone needs to put a bullet in Geo-Idiots head first before any other roster shift takes place.

Yes, but he's probably drawing Shayera, not Kendra. Ross hates all new characters.

[SteveZegers]

Yes, but he's probably drawing Shayera, not Kendra. Ross hates all new characters.

God bless that man!

[lonesomefool]

Yes, but he's probably drawing Shayera, not Kendra. Ross hates all new characters.

Yep, that's why I tend to think he isnt involved, plus, if Ross is going to paint over Brathwaite's pencil's again, there is no way the book could pull off a monthly schedule, which is something DC needs to think about since with Countdown involved with the DCU, they need the book's to keep coming out on time so it doesnt throw a wrench in either book.

Plus, as enjoyable as Justice is, I dont know if I would want it monthly, I would prefer to see someone with a more "progressive" attitude on the book, Ross should just stick to his mini's and specials, all the while making the HEAT guy's look normal.....

[Ray G.]

Yep, that's why I tend to think he isnt involved, plus, if Ross is going to paint over Brathwaite's pencil's again, there is no way the book could pull off a monthly schedule, which is something DC needs to think about since with Countdown involved with the DCU, they need the book's to keep coming out on time so it doesnt throw a wrench in either book.

Plus, as enjoyable as Justice is, I dont know if I would want it monthly, I would prefer to see someone with a more "progressive" attitude on the book, Ross should just stick to his mini's and specials, all the while making the HEAT guy's look normal.....

IMO, what they need to do is find a top-tier artist and pair him with a popular up-and-coming writer who's willing to commit to an extended run on the book to really define this new incarnation of the title.

My dream team: Christos Gage and Phil Jiminez.

[Hock]

IMO, what they need to do is find a top-tier artist and pair him with a popular up-and-coming writer who's willing to commit to an extended run on the book to really define this new incarnation of the title.

My dream team: Christos Gage and Phil Jiminez.

They should keep Benes on the book, he's done a good job. As for writer, Waid, Rucka, or Simone would all be good picks.

[Matt O'Keefe]

They should keep Benes on the book, he's done a good job. As for writer, Waid, Rucka, or Simone would all be good picks.

My dream writer would be Kurt Busiek.

[The Doctor]

My dream writer would be Kurt Busiek.

What is he doing at DC apart from Superman?

[GrandeMaestro Fünke]

IMO, what they need to do is find a top-tier artist and pair him with a popular up-and-coming writer who's willing to commit to an extended run on the book to really define this new incarnation of the title.

My dream team: Christos Gage and Phil Jiminez.

Gage would be great, but it would be odd if he took over while writing Authority as well. Although I would love to see those two on the book.

[Ray G.]

My dream writer would be Kurt Busiek.

His last run on JLA was horrid, but he was sick at the time. Given how amazing his Superman run is, I'd be down for that, as long as he was willing to commit to, say, a two-year run. DC really needs someone who's willing to truly establish the feel of this new JLA. Lord knows Meltzer didn't.

[John Drake]

IMO, what they need to do is find a top-tier artist and pair him with a popular up-and-coming writer who's willing to commit to an extended run on the book to really define this new incarnation of the title.

My dream team: Christos Gage and Phil Jiminez.

Yes! That's what I want, a huge run. Or at least more than 12 issues. And Gage would fit just fine. He can do action and character moments, without being too dense of a read (Busiek tends to do this sometimes).

[Matt O'Keefe]

His last run on JLA was horrid, but he was sick at the time. Given how amazing his Superman run is, I'd be down for that, as long as he was willing to commit to, say, a two-year run. DC really needs someone who's willing to truly establish the feel of this new JLA. Lord knows Meltzer didn't.

I'm going back and reading a lot of Busiek's older stuff right now, especially Astro City. Amazing stuff, and as I said Marvels is one of my favorite stories. I'm just going to avoid the comics he did during his sick period (what were the years of that BTW?)


Anyone else think that Countdown is the start of the crumbling of events? I'm guessing there are quite a few people that don't want Countdown that will drop books like Superman or All-New Atom because of the tie-ins. Makes me happy that I'm shifting to trade for a lot of my books.

[Matt O'Keefe]

Yes! That's what I want, a huge run. Or at least more than 12 issues. And Gage would fit just fine. He can do action and character moments, without being too dense of a read (Busiek tends to do this sometimes).

I loved his Casualties of War one-shot, but it was extremely dense.

[lonesomefool]

Busiek would be ok, but I think there are better choices, honestly I am pretty lukewarm toward's Busiek, he rocks really hard on stuff like Marvels and Astro City, but on a lot of his super hero work he tends to be a bit too "old fashioned".

My JLA pick would be Greg Rucka and Ed Benes, though Gage and Jiminez would rock as well.

[The Doctor]

I'm going back and reading a lot of Busiek's older stuff right now, especially Astro City. Amazing stuff, and as I said Marvels is one of my favorite stories. I'm just going to avoid the comics he did during his sick period (what were the years of that BTW?)


Anyone else think that Countdown is the start of the crumbling of events? I'm guessing there are quite a few people that don't want Countdown that will drop books like Superman or All-New Atom because of the tie-ins. Makes me happy that I'm shifting to trade for a lot of my books.

Every time anything happens in comics its the end of times so no.

[Matt O'Keefe]

What is he doing at DC apart from Superman?

He has a secret project that was pushed back a year.



And I love Busiek's old-fashioned style. Not everything has to feel modern. He combines the best of the Silver Age with the sensibilities of today IMO.

[Matt O'Keefe]

Every time anything happens in comics its the end of times so no.

I just mean for sales. I think Countdown might incent DC (and possibilly Marvel) to tone down on the events.

[The Doctor]

I just mean for sales. I think Countdown might incent DC (and possibilly Marvel) to tone down on the events.

It all depends.

[lonesomefool]

Anyone else think that Countdown is the start of the crumbling of events? I'm guessing there are quite a few people that don't want Countdown that will drop books like Superman or All-New Atom because of the tie-ins. Makes me happy that I'm shifting to trade for a lot of my books.

Busiek was sick from about 2001-2004 I think.

As for the events, here is my take.

First off, DC fucked up. Big time. Countdown should NEVER have tied into the DCU. Much like 52, they should have kept it off in it's own little "world", acknowledging any MAJOR events, but just focusing on the character's in the book. Now, they are tieing into other books, which may get Countdown readers to buy Atom for a couple of issues, but once Countdown stop's crossing over into Atom, those Countdown reader's will leave. Marvel saw this with Civil War, they had Blade do a Civil War tie-in, sale's doubled, maybe even tripled for one issues. The next issue was a regular Blade story, and sale's were back in the gutter, now the book is canned. 99% of the reader's who buy Countdown and plan on buying the Atom stories, will not stick around. Add to that, regular Atom reader's who may be on the fence about the book, now are being asked to buy a book they may not already buy, and they might jump. DC fucked up with Countdown on so many level's, they got greedy, plain and simple. Didio saw the sale's on 52 and thought he could do even better by having Countdown tie-into the DCU, but in the long run it's gonna hurt the books. I think at the end of Countdown, it will be a perfect example of why Dan Didio has no clue and should not be running the 2nd biggest comic book company in America.

I dont think it's the total end of events though, I think Countdown will sell solid throughout, and I think World War Hulk is gonna be comic's "summer blockbuster", but I do think the "events" trend peaked with Civil War, and now we are on the downside of it. In a couple of year's we will once again see more "stand-alone" stories, before another wave of "event comics" fever hits.

[Olivier E.]

I think that WW3 proved that it's important that Countdown, has to have a lot of tie-ins.

[bairdduvessa]

live damn you!

[The Doctor]

live damn you!

This is what happends when we talk DC.;)

[bairdduvessa]

This is what happends when we talk DC.;)

i know right?

[The Doctor]

i know right?

You are in this case, right.

[bairdduvessa]

You are in this case, right.

i am always

[Ray G.]

I'm going back and reading a lot of Busiek's older stuff right now, especially Astro City. Amazing stuff, and as I said Marvels is one of my favorite stories. I'm just going to avoid the comics he did during his sick period (what were the years of that BTW?)


Anyone else think that Countdown is the start of the crumbling of events? I'm guessing there are quite a few people that don't want Countdown that will drop books like Superman or All-New Atom because of the tie-ins. Makes me happy that I'm shifting to trade for a lot of my books.

As long as they sell, there will still be events. I wouldn't be surprised if after Countdown and Final Crisis, DC tries to dial it back for a while, though. Just to keep people from getting completely burned out.

[bairdduvessa]

As long as they sell, there will still be events. I wouldn't be surprised if after Countdown and Final Crisis, DC tries to dial it back for a while, though. Just to keep people from getting completely burned out.

too late