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Doug
04-18-2007, 05:04 AM
I found this link on CNN.com to one of the killer's classmate's blog.

Link to CNN article:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/18/vtech.shooting/index.html

Link to blog:
http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/

In the blog are copies of two of the killer's one act plays, Richard McBeef and Mr. Brownstone.

I read both plays last night, and purley on critical level, they are bad. They are very cliched, the dialog is week (hell, in Mr. Brownstone he just writes the lyrics to the Guns 'N' Roses song for three pages), and I don't get the point of the plays. Richard McBeef tries to be shocking, but it just comes off as very amaturish, and Mr. Brownstone is just as bad.

Bill?
04-18-2007, 05:12 AM
so you're saying that the homicidal maniac wasn't exactly a literary genius? too bad. I was still hoping he could turn his reputation around.

Doug
04-18-2007, 05:16 AM
so you're saying that the homicidal maniac wasn't exactly a literary genius? too bad. I was still hoping he could turn his reputation around.

I'm just saying for an English Major he wasn't a very good writer.

Also the news is making a big deal out of how one of his teachers pulled him out of class and taught him one-on-one because his writing disturbed her so much.

Based on just these two writing samples I don't find it disturbing, just bad.

Jim T.
04-18-2007, 05:17 AM
I'd love to know what kind of grades this guy got - for an English major, he's pretty terrible. This stuff reads like high school level writing and I'm surprised he would have been this far along in that major and still be this bad.

ZombieSpeedball
04-18-2007, 05:31 AM
The dude wrote like a fucking dumbass. Which is good, the asshole doesn't deserve to be talented.

Bill?
04-18-2007, 05:35 AM
I'm just saying for an English Major he wasn't a very good writer.

Also the news is making a big deal out of how one of his teachers pulled him out of class and taught him one-on-one because his writing disturbed her so much.

Based on just these two writing samples I don't find it disturbing, just bad.

talented people never go crazy. they go "eccentric".

Mike
04-18-2007, 05:43 AM
Read those last night. Sounds like they were written by a kid who thought cursing was still "cool." Obviously has authority/adult male issues as well. How is he an English major?

twigglet
04-18-2007, 05:51 AM
This stuff reads like high school level writing

Most of the people in my high school write much much much better than that.

Gregory
04-18-2007, 05:52 AM
I'm not reading them. The plays shouldn't be world famous just because they were written by a mass murderer. More people will know these works than the play that just won the Pulitzer for fiction.

twigglet
04-18-2007, 05:58 AM
I'm not reading them. The plays shouldn't be world famous just because they were written by a mass murderer. More people will know these works than the play that just won the Pulitzer for fiction.

Meh, it's like reading mein kampf, I know it's probably wrong but curiosity gets me interested to see if any of the sick bastards personality comes through in his writing, reading those pieces of text, it's obvious he was a mixed up fucker.

The Cheap-Arse Film Critic
04-18-2007, 06:00 AM
It's worrying to me just how many people with the capacity to kill also think they possess some sort of artistic talent. Maybe it has something to do with ego. All artists are essentially egotistical people, just some are better at hiding it and better with people than others.

I include myself in this statement.

Jef UK
04-18-2007, 06:03 AM
There are plenty of English majors who are bad writers. Ticking off a box when you choose your major doesn't magically turn you in to the pinnacle of performance in that major.

xyzzy
04-18-2007, 06:05 AM
There are plenty of English majors who are bad writers. Ticking off a box when you choose your major doesn't magically turn you in to the pinnacle of performance in that major.

Of course not, but after several years of classes, you generally expect people to learn something.

Jef UK
04-18-2007, 06:15 AM
Of course not, but after several years of classes, you generally expect people to learn something.

I'm sure he and any other bad creative writers do learn something by being English majors: how to write papers on works in the Western Canon. Being an English major isn't taking 4 years worth of playwriting classes. Being an English major doesn't make you a talented writer. Being an English major doesn't offer you much practing experience in creative writing at all. You can maybe fit in 2 creative writing classes in your tenure. Besides, all you need is a 2.5 to graduate, right?

I'm not defending the guy. I just don't get the, "for an English major, his plays sure were bad!" mentality.

The Stig
04-18-2007, 06:37 AM
The comments page is just hilarious:



1. This is something written by a senior in college? It reads and sounds like something a 9th grader might write.
Stacy (http://=/) at 2:28PM (http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/#c4510350) on Apr 17th 2007

2. Hey Stacy, how about you keep your rude comments to yourself. The point of their story wasn't supposed to be so you could talk about their writing. You're supposed to reflect on the events that took place yesterday and realize what a tragedy it is. So many people lost people they loved or had people hurt because of some psychotic persons selfish acts.
Madeline at 2:37PM (http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/#c4510505) on Apr 17th 2007

3. You are the one that sounds like an idiot: Get a life Stacy.
MonMon at 2:39PM (http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/#c4510560) on Apr 17th 2007

4. Stacy,
I don't even know how to comment on what you just wrote. Maybe, grow up!!
Roxie at 2:40PM (http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/#c4510559) on Apr 17th 2007

5. Hey you twit - - - we aren't reading it for correct grammar or English. It is written about his twisted mind. Get focused moron. . . :o(
Scott at 2:41PM (http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/#c4510527) on Apr 17th 2007

Yeah, Stacy, you inhuman monster! How dare you disrespect the dead by... criticizing the killer's writing?

Just a little oversensitive, aren't they?

Criden
04-18-2007, 07:10 AM
The comments page is just hilarious:



Yeah, Stacy, you inhuman monster! How dare you disrespect the dead by... criticizing the killer's writing?

Just a little oversensitive, aren't they?

I think they thought she was talking about the AOL guy's post...but still, yeesh.

JABSEN
04-18-2007, 07:12 AM
I think they thought she was talking about the AOL guy's post...but still, yeesh.I don't know. If you read what that Scott guy wrote. It seems like they know she's referring to the plays.

Criden
04-18-2007, 07:25 AM
I don't know. If you read what that Scott guy wrote. It seems like they know she's referring to the plays.

That's true. It seemed like some thought that, but it also seemed like others thought she was talking about the AOL posting:


19. Stacy was talking about the actual play Richard McBeef which does indeed sound like a young adolescent boy wrote it...She was not saying the note written by Ian MacFarlane, was juvenile...The note is what the two of you are referring to...go read the actual play and you will understand
Jessica at 2:47PM on Apr 17th 2007

Drkemerld73
04-18-2007, 07:29 AM
I'm not sure if he wanted to be a writer, but what if he was doing it so he could be a teacher? Or maybe even go back and teach English in South Korea?

Just a thought.

silverboy
04-18-2007, 08:18 AM
Hell, even Charles Manson wrote some good songs.

Craig C
04-18-2007, 08:41 AM
Just reading one of the play's was bad I couldn't even bring myself to read the other one. And I got to agree with the reply's from a lot of people there as well why wasn't this turned in to the Dean or someone of authority so they could have tried to have gotten this kid some help?

The Cheap-Arse Film Critic
04-18-2007, 08:42 AM
This guys stuff reads like I'm afraid mine does. I really hope it doesn't.

RebootedCorpse
04-18-2007, 08:48 AM
This guys stuff reads like I'm afraid mine does. I really hope it doesn't.

Post it and we'll compare.
Then report you to authorities.:grope:

Bill?
04-18-2007, 08:51 AM
This guys stuff reads like I'm afraid mine does. I really hope it doesn't.

feel free to check yourself into the nut house before everyone you know ends up on CNN talking about what an angry young loner you were.

The Cheap-Arse Film Critic
04-18-2007, 08:52 AM
feel free to check yourself into the nut house before everyone you know ends up on CNN talking about what an angry young loner you were.

I wasn't talking about the subject matter.

More the quality of it. This kid was shit.

Mister Mets
04-18-2007, 09:05 AM
How long til people start referencing that stuff in their own work?

It's going to happen soon.

glk
04-18-2007, 09:12 AM
In film school, a ton of students made really violent short films because at the time they were all imitating Natural Born Killers and Pulp Fiction. But they all sucked and no one killed anyone.

Doug
04-18-2007, 09:23 AM
How long til people start referencing that stuff in their own work?

It's going to happen soon.

Removed bad joke that I did not want misinterpreted.

chazbot
04-18-2007, 10:36 AM
sooo...... how long until there is a porno or porn star called Richard McBeef?

I'm just saying is all.

Special Agent Bachman
04-18-2007, 10:58 AM
Wow, those plays are the worst I've ever read in my life.