The Official X-Men & Friends Thread!

[The Jack Rabbitt]

:thumb: It's damn awesome in the end too.

I can't wait to get the next HC.

[HomerGator]

AAAA! I want a photoshop skrull face! SO jealous...

[The Jack Rabbitt]

AAAA! I want a photoshop skrull face! SO jealous...

Join us!

One... of.... us. One of us.

[HomerGator]

Join us!

One... of.... us. One of us.

I would gladly do so, especially if someone was awesome enough to photoshop a skrull face over my dog's..... :D

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I would gladly do so, especially if someone was awesome enough to photoshop a skrull face over my dog's..... :D

heh. So far we've just been using paint, as none of us actually have photoshop. Hence why they look kinda... rough.

[Magnum V.I.]

heh. So far we've just been using paint, as none of us actually have photoshop. Hence why they look kinda... rough.

But Us Skrull like Character in our personal Photo's....

:shifty:

[The Jack Rabbitt]

But Us Skrull like Character in our personal Photo's....

:shifty:

:shifty:

[HomerGator]

:shifty:

:scared:

[The Jack Rabbitt]

So, I finished the Wisdom mini today. I know not very many people out there bothered to read this mini and it's really too bad. This book was incredible. Great writing, fantastic art, wonderful ending.

Buy the trade, people. Or pick up the singles, if you can. You won't regret it.

I give the whole thing an 8.5/10.

[Magnum V.I.]

So, I finished the Wisdom mini today. I know not very many people out there bothered to read this mini and it's really too bad. This book was incredible. Great writing, fantastic art, wonderful ending.

Buy the trade, people. Or pick up the singles, if you can. You won't regret it.

I give the whole thing an 8.5/10.

But do you have to be a fan of Wisdom? His recent New Excalibur self does not interest me at all.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I read Wisdom and it was fine until that brilliant last issue with the Don't Click Again Mother-Fucker!Killraven reveal and then it shot up to an 11/10 comic.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

But do you have to be a fan of Wisdom? His recent New Excalibur self does not interest me at all.

He is completely different in this mini. AKA, he is written well.

I don't think you need to be a Wisdom fan, though it certainly won't hurt.

And it has John the Skrull of the Skrull Beatles!

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I read Wisdom and it was fine until that brilliant last issue with the Don't Click Again Mother-Fucker!Killraven reveal and then it shot up to an 11/10 comic.

I loved the ending. Fucking fantastic.

[Magnum V.I.]

He is completely different in this mini. AKA, he is written well.

I don't think you need to be a Wisdom fan, though it certainly won't hurt.

And it has John the Skrull of the Skrull Beatles!

I must buy this then.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

The only ONLY problem I had with the mini was the characterization of Alistaire Stuart. Seemed way off, to me. But, if you don't know who that is, it surely wouldn't bother you.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Not quite as good as the recent Union Jack mini-series either.

When writers go to the trouble of explaining what happened to other potential heroes who should be helping out aka Excalibur,Captain Britain or Micromax i swoon.

[Magnum V.I.]

Not quite as good as the recent Union Jack mini-series either.

When writers go to the trouble of explaining what happened to other potential heroes who should be helping out aka Excalibur,Captain Britain or Micromax i swoon.

I seriously enjoyed Union Jack. but I was annoyed with Blade when Vampires started showing back up in London after Union Jack killed them all in Issue 1.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I've been meaning to check out the Union Jack mini.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

When writers go to the trouble of explaining what happened to other potential heroes who should be helping out aka Excalibur,Captain Britain or Micromax i swoon.

Indeed. Makes things so much nicer.

[Matt O.]

I've been meaning to check out the Union Jack mini.

It's okay. Nothing spectacular, but solid nonetheless.

[HomerGator]

It's okay. Nothing spectacular, but solid nonetheless.

The Raab/Cassaday Union Jack mini is pretty nice, but the Gage/Perkins one is fucking tits.

[YouStayClassy]

The Raab/Cassaday Union Jack mini is pretty nice, but the Gage/Perkins one is fucking tits.

One of the best minis of 2006, by far.

That Gage is going to be HUGE on day.

[HomerGator]

One of the best minis of 2006, by far.

That Gage is going to be HUGE on day.

I have a feeling he's going to be a Spider-Man writer. Not necessarily one of the new ones coming after One More Day, but someday.

I'm really looking forward to his World War Hulk:X-Men mini (with Andrea Divito!!!!). If that goes well, maybe he'll get some more work in the X-universe....

[YouStayClassy]

I have a feeling he's going to be a Spider-Man writer. Not necessarily one of the new ones coming after One More Day, but someday.

I'm really looking forward to his World War Hulk:X-Men mini (with Andrea Divito!!!!). If that goes well, maybe he'll get some more work in the X-universe....

After that PHENOMENAL Captain America/Iron Man Civil War one shot, I'd hand him the keys to anything he wanted to write.

[Vonn Hennigar]

That WWH: X-Men mini is the PERFECT project for a guy like Christos Gage.

A concept that Chuck Austen couldn't fuck up, a story that makes actual sense and it'll be just plain fun.

I think it'll outsell Frontline and Incredible Hulk itself actually.

[HomerGator]

After that PHENOMENAL Captain America/Iron Man Civil War one shot, I'd hand him the keys to anything he wanted to write.

Couldn't agree more.

[HomerGator]

That WWH: X-Men mini is the PERFECT project for a guy like Christos Gage.

A concept that Chuck Austen couldn't fuck up, a story that makes actual sense and it'll be just plain fun.

I think it'll outsell Frontline and Incredible Hulk itself actually.

I don't know about Chuck Austen not being able to fuck it up...

The Hulk vs the X-Men will probably be the highest selling tie-in (although I bet Incredible Hulk is the best).

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

How many ways did New X-Men kick ass this week? The death toll has slowed down (and even reversed!) and Magik, whichever version she turns out to be, is amazing. Young still is in my top ten least favorite artists but I've gotta admit Limbo was made for his style. Now, if only we can get some assurance the One True Magik will be featured here or some other X-Title for ever and ever from this point one I'll be a happy camper indeed!

[Matt O.]

I have a feeling he's going to be a Spider-Man writer. Not necessarily one of the new ones coming after One More Day, but someday.

I'm really looking forward to his World War Hulk:X-Men mini (with Andrea Divito!!!!). If that goes well, maybe he'll get some more work in the X-universe....

He fits in with Wacker's hint.

SGW

Slott Gage ???????

[Vonn Hennigar]

He fits in with Wacker's hint.

SGW

Slott Gage ???????

Wieringo???

[Matt O.]

Wieringo???

Maybe, but I got the impression that he was talking about writers.



I really would love Ringo on Spider-Man, though.

[Vonn Hennigar]

X-Men : Messiah Complex

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• Chapter 1: (X-Men: Messiah Complex One Shot).
• Chapter 2: (Uncanny X-Men #492)
• Chapter 3: (X-Factor #25)
• Chapter 4: (New X-Men #44)
• Chapter 5: (X-Men #206)
• Chapter 6: (Uncanny X-Men #493)
• Chapter 7: (X-Factor #26)
• Chapter 8: (New X-Men #45)
• Chapter 9: (X-Men #207)
• Chapter 10: (Uncanny X-Men #494)
• Chapter 11: (X-Factor #27)
• Chapter 12: (New X-Men #46)
• Chapter 13: (X-Men #208 )

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=116920

[Matt O.]

As I mentioned in another thread, I'm worred about this crossover. The multiple-writer projects always seem to end badly, and this will force me to drop X-Factor for a few months. I probably will get the eventual HC, though.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

X-Men : Messiah Complex

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• Chapter 1: (X-Men: Messiah Complex One Shot).
• Chapter 2: (Uncanny X-Men #492)
• Chapter 3: (X-Factor #25)
• Chapter 4: (New X-Men #44)
• Chapter 5: (X-Men #206)
• Chapter 6: (Uncanny X-Men #493)
• Chapter 7: (X-Factor #26)
• Chapter 8: (New X-Men #45)
• Chapter 9: (X-Men #207)
• Chapter 10: (Uncanny X-Men #494)
• Chapter 11: (X-Factor #27)
• Chapter 12: (New X-Men #46)
• Chapter 13: (X-Men #208 )

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=116920

:rock:

[Vonn Hennigar]

As I mentioned in another thread, I'm worred about this crossover. The multiple-writer projects always seem to end badly, and this will force me to drop X-Factor for a few months. I probably will get the eventual HC, though.

Why would you drop X-Factor? Unless you're not reading nor plan to read Uncanny,X-Men or New X-Men hence this project isn't aimed toward you.

[HomerGator]

I can't wait for this, but is it just me, or does that first Silvestri cover really suck?

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I can't wait for this, but is it just me, or does that first Silvestri cover really suck?

I don't think it sucks, though the second is quite a bit better, imo.

[Matt O.]

Why would you drop X-Factor? Unless you're not reading nor plan to read Uncanny,X-Men or New X-Men hence this project isn't aimed toward you.

X-Factor is my only X-title, and putting it in the middle crossover is going to make me drop it.

[HomerGator]

I don't think it sucks, though the second is quite a bit better, imo.

I dunno, I've never seen his appeal as an artist, personally.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Wizard : Beast appears to be the focus character of “Endangered Species.” Will there be a character that “Messiah” focuses on more than any other in the four respective X-books?

LOWE: The main character in the whole thing, the character that takes the most prominence, would be Cyclops. He steps up and becomes a leader, like we all knew he had in him, but he might not have shown all that much lately. He takes a very large role in this, but there are a bunch of others. This spans all the X-Men characters. X-23 has a big role in it. Wolverine, of course. Angel has one of his bigger roles in recent memory in this. Jamie Madrox and Layla Miller play very significant roles. I could probably give you a list, but Cyclops, Professor X, Mystique and Mr. Sinister are really huge—they’re on the first cover.

:rock:

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Good for Cyke!

But I want Beast to have a major role in this, too, and I don't see him listed. :mad:

[Vonn Hennigar]

Good for Cyke!

But I want Beast to have a major role in this, too, and I don't see him listed. :mad:

He gets captured by Mr.Sinister in Endangered Species and is experimented upon.

Until he makes his triumphant escape and comes back as APE-BEAST!!!

Fuck Frank " Mashed Potatoes" Quitely in the Ear!!!

[The Jack Rabbitt]

He gets captured by Mr.Sinister in Endangered Species and is experimented upon.

Until he makes his triumphant escape and comes back as APE-BEAST!!!

Fuck Frank " Mashed Potatoes" Quitely in the Ear!!!

I'd be cool with that. I don't mind cat-beast, but I do miss ole Ape-Beast.

[Vonn Hennigar]

As Day Two of the Heroes Convention wrapped up in Charlotte, several Marvel Comics writers sat down and discussed upcoming stories. On the panel were Matt Fraction, Peter David, Christos Gage, Jeff Parker and Daniel Way.

It was David who provided some insight into one of the bigger announcements so far, the “Messiah Complex” storyline, set to run throughout the X-books this fall. “'Messiah Complex' deals with mutants being an endangered species,” said David, “and what happens when Cerebra detects the birth of a child with the X-gene.” He went on to say that both the Marauders and Purifiers also find out about the child, who then disappears, prompting a race to see who can find the baby first. “We had a mutant summit a couple of month ago and beat out the story. It's twelve parts over four books for three months.”

David added that as a result of the events in “Messiah Complex,” there will be a shake-up in the status quo for several of the teams, with his own X-Factor team gaining a member and possibly losing one as well.

Well damn. I might as well make it official i'm calling it, the mutant child will be Wanda Maximoff and Clint Barton's. I said this earlier in another thread but i want it saved here for posterity's sake if it somehow comes to pass.

[jugglersdespair]

[I]Well damn. I might as well make it official i'm calling it, the mutant child will be Wanda Maximoff and Clint Barton's. I said this earlier in another thread but i want it saved here for posterity's sake if it somehow comes to pass.

That's a good theory but I think they're looking for that super strong infant that was mentioned in the news recently.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070530/strong_toddler_070530/20070530?hub=Health

[Howlett]

He gets captured by Mr.Sinister in Endangered Species and is experimented upon.

Until he makes his triumphant escape and comes back as APE-BEAST!!!

Fuck Frank " Mashed Potatoes" Quitely in the Ear!!!

Okay, I just came in to take a quick look at what was going on in this thread and THIS was one of the first posts I read :lol:

Vonn, you just made my fucking buddy list :rofl:

[HomerGator]

Wizard : Beast appears to be the focus character of “Endangered Species.” Will there be a character that “Messiah” focuses on more than any other in the four respective X-books?

LOWE: The main character in the whole thing, the character that takes the most prominence, would be Cyclops. He steps up and becomes a leader, like we all knew he had in him, but he might not have shown all that much lately. He takes a very large role in this, but there are a bunch of others. This spans all the X-Men characters. X-23 has a big role in it. Wolverine, of course. Angel has one of his bigger roles in recent memory in this. Jamie Madrox and Layla Miller play very significant roles. I could probably give you a list, but Cyclops, Professor X, Mystique and Mr. Sinister are really huge—they’re on the first cover.

:rock:


There isn't a single thing in that answer by Nick Lowe that doesn't make me happy :D

Cyclops has always been, by far, my favorite X-character.

[Vonn Hennigar]

September 2007 Solicitations are up for the X-Books.

Marc Guggenheim back on Wolverine!!! :rock:

UNCANNY X-MEN #490
Written by ED BRUBAKER
Pencils & Cover by SALVADOR LARROCA
"EXTREMISTS"
Why are the Morlocks terrorizing innocent people? What is their endgame? That's what Storm and the X-Men are trying to find out. All the while, Professor X and Nightcrawler are on the trail of Magneto! Part 4 (of 5)
FEATURING ENDANGERED SPECIES CHAPTER 10
Beast heads to mutant town with BISHOP! Looking for samples of mutant DNA, Beast turns to drug dealers selling MGH-mutant growth hormone. And he does NOT like what he finds!
40 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

X-FACTOR #23
Written by Peter David
Pencils & Cover by Pablo Raimondi
"The Isolationist" Part 3 of 4.
Layla Miller is in over her head, and her survival hinges on the one man who wants to see her dead. The plan of Josef Huber, the Isolationist, is revealed, but X-Factor may not be around to stop it. And Monet and Siryn take an elevator.
FEATURING ENDANGERED SPECIES Chapter 11
Guest starring FORGE, Beast examines the effect that M-Day had on alternate futures via Forge's technology. And the future looks bleak!
40 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

NEW X-MEN #42
Written by CHRISTOPHER YOST & CRAIG KYLE
Pencils & Cover by SKOTTIE YOUNG
"CHILDREN OF X-MEN"
Mutants are now an endangered species, and the New X-Men realize that they may well be the LAST X-Men! After the events of "Quest for Magik," several of the kids have been changed forever, and the Astonishing X-Men are finally taking some time to get to know their students. But after everything the team has been through… who even wants to be an X-Man? New powers, new relationships, new team members, all on the road to the X-event of the decade! Part 1 (of 2)
FEATURING ENDANGERED SPECIES Chapter 12
Tired of dead ends with current mutants, Beast turns to the family that has sired the most mutants on Earth-the Guthries. The family that produced two X-MEN and may hold the key to save the mutant race.
40 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

X-MEN #203
Written by MIKE CAREY
Pencils & Cover by HUMBERTO RAMOS
As the Xavier Academy reels from Exodus's attack and the Marauders' true goals emerge, the X-Men finally find themselves in a position to take the offensive. But only if Iceman and Cannonball deliberately walk into an ambush from which they may not emerge alive.
FEATURING ENDANGERED SPECIES Chapter 13
Beast's alliance with Dark Beast is put to the test as scientific inquiry turns into cold-blooded murder!
40 PGS./Rated A …$2.99

X-MEN: EMPEROR VULCAN #1 (of 5)
Written by CHRISTOPHER YOST
Penciled by PACO DIAZ
Cover by BILLY TAN
It's brother versus brother and the outcome could decide the fate of billions. UNCANNY X-MEN'S "Rise and Fall of the Shi'Ar Empire" continues here! Vulcan is the Shi'Ar Emperor and Havok is leading the rebellious Starjammers. But who is really right and who is really wrong?
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

CABLE & DEADPOOL #45
Written by FABIAN NICIEZA
Penciled by REILLY BROWN
Cover by SKOTTIE YOUNG
A living legend. A super soldier. A horrible tragedy that continues to rock the Marvel Universe. Would Deadpool hold any of these things sacred? CAPTAIN AMERICA is about to find out! But wait, isn't Cap dead, you ask? Of course he is, but then... how can he be teaming up with our favorite Merc With A Mouth and his trusty sidekick, BOB, Agent of Hydra...?
Maybe Bucky can provide a clue...
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

X-MEN: FIRST CLASS #4
Written by JEFF PARKER
Penciled by ROGER CRUZ
Cover by ERIC NGUYEN
All the custom-made oversized shoes are missing. Someone's cleaned out the pantry of all the candy. Warren is missing one of his cars. Cerebro, what do your calculations say?
ROAD TRIP... HANK AND BOBBY-STYLE.
32 PGS./Rated A …$2.99

EXILES #98
Written by CHRIS CLAREMONT
Penciled by RONAN CLIQUETTE
Cover by TOM COKER
While Psylocke and Kitty Pride are fighting off an army of intruders, the team is faced with the shocking truth of the rivalry between this Earth's Victor Von Doom and Reed Richards. Plus, Miguel O'Hare (Spider-Man 2099) and Gwen Stacy's relationship is taken to the edge.
32 PGS./Rated A …$2.99

NEW EXCALIBUR #23
Written by CHRIS CLAREMONT
Penciled by JEREMY HAUN
Cover by BILLY TAN
"BATTLE FOR ETERNITY"
Everything is at stake. The country. The world. The universe. The multi-verse. Captain Britain and the remains of New Excalibur are alone to stop Albion and his forces. But if this cover says anything about our heroes' chances, all of reality is in big trouble.
32 PGS./Rated A …$2.99

WOLVERINE #57
Written by MARC GUGGENHEIM
Penciled by SCOTT KOLINS
Cover by ARTHUR SUYDAM
Marc Guggenheim returns to the title that launched his Marvel Comics career with an arc whose title says it all: "The Death of Logan." Following up on plot threads left over from Marc's blockbuster "Vendetta" arc, this new story promises to take Marvel's feral mutant to the limit -- and beyond! He's aided and abetted by none other than Scott Kolins, using the groundbreaking new style he's employed in the sold-out OMEGA FLIGHT series! 'Nuff said!
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99

WOLVERINE: ORIGINS #17
Written by DANIEL WAY
Art by STEVE DILLON
Cover by MARKO DJURDJEVIC
"Our War," Part 2 (of 5)
The greatest story never told continues! It's 1942 and Logan has traveled to occupied France to take Cap up on his offer-problem is, Cap already has a partner. Needless to say, Bucky isn't exactly thrilled to find out that he wasn't Cap's first choice. Who is this scruffy outlaw, anyway? And why is he here, now? What's his stake in all this? All very good questions…
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99

[Matt O.]

Two more months of X-Factor until my editorially-mandated X-hiatus.

[Vonn Hennigar]

The Marauders will FUCK you up!

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Oh Mystique, you damn whore :nonono2:

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Uncanny, X-Factor, New X-Men, X-Men, Cable/Deadpool, Exiles for me.

[Marcdachamp]

The Marauders will FUCK you up!

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Oh Mystique, you damn whore :nonono2:

Is that Nitro? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. :D

Cable and Deadpool sounds great. Sadly, so does Wolverine:Origins. I swore I was done with that book, but...

[Vonn Hennigar]

Is that Nitro? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. :D

Cable and Deadpool sounds great. Sadly, so does Wolverine:Origins. I swore I was done with that book, but...

That's not Nitro it's Riptide.

[Marcdachamp]

That's not Nitro it's Riptide.

Damn.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Damn.

Nitro was seen in last weeks Sub-Mariner # 1 though.

He's still alive and being kept prisoner in Atlantis being treated surprisingly well, he's still pretty pissed off though. I can only assume he's being subdued by a power inhibitor of some kind.

Either way it's only a matter of time till he breaks free and raises some hell.

[Matt O.]

Nitro was seen in last weeks Sub-Mariner # 1 though.

He's still alive and being kept prisoner in Atlantis being treated surprisingly well, he's still pretty pissed off though. I can only assume he's being subdued by a power inhibitor of some kind.

Either way it's only a matter of time till he breaks free and raises some hell.

How was the issue? Submariner probably can't hold down enough readers for a monthly, but if this mini is well-recieved I could certainly see Marvel putting more out.

[skylar]

I have X-Men on my mind. I am not sure if its because I'm on the outskirts of Hong Kong at the end of a business trip, because I spent the day riding around mainland China on trains without a good book to read, because I've read all 206 pages of this thread, or because I'm an X-Men addict and have been for the last 11 years, or all of the aforementioned, but no matter, I have X-Men on my mind.

In no particular order here is what x-topics are racing through my brain:

-Warpath and his flight? Does he still have it? Why haven't we seen it? I want an explanation! My hope is that he does still have it, but like how Psylocke circa X-men 1 - 10 would say she could take out a villian from far away with her telepathy but prefers to physically fight them because its more satisfying, I hope that Warpath just prefers using his super agility, reflexes, and speed over his flight. I like the idea of a mutant with excessive powers that they don't even always like using and having that contrasted with mutants who get shitty powers like Beak. Warpath essentially has a set of "perfect powers" similar to M but more physical than psychic and he just prefers some over others. I think that's cool. Anyway, moving on...

--Cannonball. I'm obsessed. I don't know why. I love that on the daily, he's an immortal mutant and when he uses his powers he's completely invulnerable. If he's not paying attention you still can't kill him and if he is, you can't even touch him. That and he's just a badass. If Jean evolved into the phoenix force Cannonball evolved into whatever the NovaCorps sucked their power from. Plus he took down Gladiator. I wanna see him sucker punch Sentry next.

--Iceman. Give me more. I hope he's involved in Messiah Complex. I'd like to see him step up and let everyone know he's the next big thing. I just need more Iceman that's all I know. I wanna see a buddy book with him and Cannonball.

--I have this bloodlust rage for the death and destruction of all future/alternate timeline mutants, in particular, Rachel Grey, Cable, Bishop, and Dark Beast and Holocaust. The only character that I have ever been ok with that falls into this category is X-Man and that was only after he was Counter-Xised.

--Can we please have more Angel but not in a sucky way. I want to see him kill Gambit. First the man is responsible for making him loose his wings. Then he goes traitor on his teammates and joins Apocalypse to take up the role of Death, the role that Angel was forced into thanks to Gambit in the first place. I really wanna see him do something really nasty to Gambit. If Gambit drank Apocalypse blood to turn into Death I wonder what would happen if he drank Angel's healing blood. I hope something gross.

--Can we all just realize Emma has been a good guy for a long time, she's just a bitch. How come no one stepped up and said "A villian is training our current youth" in the Generation X days. I mean, she'd come over and have tea with Xaiver. I remember this very clearly. No one said a word. She's just a mean person, but not a traitor. That angle is boring. Just keep her mean and nasty, but she gets more flack than Rogue and Rogue wasn't a sweety when she first met the X-men. Hell now she's Lorna Dane bat-shit nuts. Emma shows some boobs and everyone goes up and arms....(i'm not sure if i'm talking about the characters or us or both)

--Phoenix needs to return burn out everything that doesn't work (namely her alternate timeline children) and then go hang out with Iceman, Cannonball, Storm, Angel (and maybe Northstar and Colossus) as the Mighty/Flying/Cunty X-men/(gold team was cooler than the blue team any day of the week).

That's all for now but there is more. I can't stop.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Phoenix needs to return burn out everything that doesn't work (namely her alternate timeline children) and then go hang out with Iceman, Cannonball, Storm, Angel (and maybe Northstar and Colossus) as the Mighty/Flying/Cunty X-men/(gold team was cooler than the blue team any day of the week).

That's all for now but there is more. I can't stop.

I want Jean back too but the baggage is too much. I say she wasn't disintegrated at the end of 137(?) but that machine popped her into the future and that coccoon she was later found in was the Phoenix Force creating the perfect host. You don't invalidate any of the stories. 'Course, in my whole storyline, all the future mutants turn out to be from the present with false memories so they can act as sleeper agents for the Phoenix Force and in the end Bishop turns out to be an LA cop with a wife and kids missing him, Cable is Corsair's uncle, and Rachel the product of an affair between Corsair and Jean's sister...

[skylar]

I want Jean back too but the baggage is too much. I say she wasn't disintegrated at the end of 137(?) but that machine popped her into the future and that coccoon she was later found in was the Phoenix Force creating the perfect host. You don't invalidate any of the stories. 'Course, in my whole storyline, all the future mutants turn out to be from the present with false memories so they can act as sleeper agents for the Phoenix Force and in the end Bishop turns out to be an LA cop with a wife and kids missing him, Cable is Corsair's uncle, and Rachel the product of an affair between Corsair and Jean's sister...

Ok, that's fine too, but I still want her to eat them. They are among my least favorite characters along with Gambit who needs to suck on Angel's anti-apocalypse cajun killing blood.

What if Jean is just some cosmically crazy nutcase who has no handle on death due to a first-handle mental experience of it as a youth when she watches her friend die. All the weird inconsistencies are her own internal inconsistencies within her memory that due to the nature of her powers manifiest themselves in real life. I dunno, I always saw her like that, even before the movie. Now that its film cannon it could be a useful save. I'm sure you could work out all sorts of details this way and get her back. She's got cool visuals and they need her alive to explore her friendship with Iceman, a relationship that has amazing potential and was only touched on once and was then ruined by the appearance of the x-babies.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

The best medicine for Gambit is just being ignored. He's one of my top three loathed X-Men and has been since his character led to so much shit going wrong for Rogue. Maybe they should do a Gambit mini that's a play off the death of Rasputin? Each issue could have Gambit killed in another spectacular way until there's no doubt he'd never coming back again...

[skylar]

The best medicine for Gambit is just being ignored. He's one of my top three loathed X-Men and has been since his character led to so much shit going wrong for Rogue. Maybe they should do a Gambit mini that's a play off the death of Rasputin? Each issue could have Gambit killed in another spectacular way until there's no doubt he'd never coming back again...


i am not concerned how its done, as long as its done. i'm still rooting for an angel/gambit no holds barred rip your fucken throat out fight. angel is so much cooler to the point that apocalypse gave him razor wings and he gave gambit super human farts. i mean, if your going to be death blue, you should at least hope your master gives you razor wings and not super-flatulence.

further my top favorite x-men as of right this second: iceman, cannonball, phoenix, storm, and angel.

(but while characters like iceman and phoenix are usually always in my top 5, i like my favorite x-men in groups of 5, so there are days when it might be phoenix iceman rogue mystique nightcrawler - its kinda connect the dots, kevin bacon thing but with x-men instead).

my least favorite characters include rachel grey, cable, bishop, gambit, and with number 5 varying depending on my mood. it was 5 minutes ago, x-23 but i changed my mind and i like her now and its currently rockslide. I hope belasco crushes him into tiny pebbles and exlir tries to heal him but the best he can do is get the pieces smooth enough to play a decent game of marbles and gives up, because hellion invites him over to play Wii instead.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

X-books this week:

X-Men: Endangered Species One-Shot
X-Men: First Class HC

[HomerGator]

X-books this week:

X-Men: Endangered Species One-Shot
X-Men: First Class HC

You're really going to like First Class. It's awesomesauce :D

[The Jack Rabbitt]

You're really going to like First Class. It's awesomesauce :D

I can't wait. I'm really looking forward to it.

[Vonn Hennigar]

With all this talk of Dark Beast lately i'm wondering...

Whatever happened to Sugarman?

God, worst name ever :nonono2:

[YouStayClassy]

With all this talk of Dark Beast lately i'm wondering...

Whatever happened to Sugarman?

God, worst name ever :nonono2:

Didn't he die when X-Factor ended?

[The Jack Rabbitt]

With all this talk of Dark Beast lately i'm wondering...

Whatever happened to Sugarman?

God, worst name ever :nonono2:

I actually like the character of Dark Beast. When Claremont isn't writing him, anyway.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Didn't he die when X-Factor ended?

No clue.

Is that when Havok got sucked into Mutant X World out of the blue?

Too long ago for me to remember.

[YouStayClassy]

No clue.

Is that when Havok got sucked into Mutant X World out of the blue?

Too long ago for me to remember.
Yeah it was.

But apparently Sugar Man died in Claremont's Excalibur book. Callisto and Omega Sentinel killed him.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I want Dark Beast to be hooked on Kick and look something like this...

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97794297722.153.GIF

Why?

Cause i like it that way Goshdarnit!

[The Jack Rabbitt]

No clue.

Is that when Havok got sucked into Mutant X World out of the blue?

Too long ago for me to remember.

I don't remember what happened to Sugar Man, at all.

Ah, Mutant X. I remember thee fondly.

[YouStayClassy]

I don't remember what happened to Sugar Man, at all.

Ah, Mutant X. I remember thee fondly.

One of the best things Mackie's ever done, even if the forumula was BEYOND..... er, formulaic.....

[Vonn Hennigar]

Pete Wisdom's Ex-Wife falls on hard times :(

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Vonn_Hennigar/fairy.jpg

This will only make sense if you've actually read the recent Wisdom mini-series. And no i have no idea what the fuck this actually is.

[GrandMaster Funk]

One of the best things Mackie's ever done, even if the forumula was BEYOND..... er, formulaic.....

I loved Mutant X, very underrated book IMO.

[HomerGator]

I don't remember what happened to Sugar Man, at all.

Ah, Mutant X. I remember thee fondly.

You liked Mutant X?

I'd like to rip it, because I generally don't like 'alternate Earth' stories, but I've honestly never read an issue. It started just about when I was getting out of comics, and it was done before I got back in.

I like Havok, but I dunno....

[YouStayClassy]

You liked Mutant X?

I'd like to rip it, because I generally don't like 'alternate Earth' stories, but I've honestly never read an issue. It started just about when I was getting out of comics, and it was done before I got back in.

I like Havok, but I dunno....

It doesn't break any molds whatsoever (and like I said earlier, is quite formulaic), but it's so damn fun and really is nice-spirited for a book with such a dark premise. Mackie hit a home run on almost every single issue.

But I'm a DIEHARD Havok fan (hell, he's one of my top 5 X-Men), so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

[HomerGator]

It doesn't break any molds whatsoever (and like I said earlier, is quite formulaic), but it's so damn fun and really is nice-spirited for a book with such a dark premise. Mackie hit a home run on almost every single issue.

But I'm a DIEHARD Havok fan (hell, he's one of my top 5 X-Men), so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

I like Havok. I wouldn't say he's in my top five (the original five are my top five), but he's definitely in my top ten.

[YouStayClassy]

I like Havok. I wouldn't say he's in my top five (the original five are my top five), but he's definitely in my top ten.

Havok from Uncanny 219 to 251 made me a lifelong fan of his. Claremont was in El Zono during that time.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Havok from Uncanny 219 to 251 made me a lifelong fan of his. Claremont was in El Zono during that time.

Even..Roma :?

and...

sniff

The Siege Pierilous :surrend:

[YouStayClassy]

Even..Roma :?

and...

sniff

The Siege Pierilous :surrend:

Once the Adversary tore out of that guy's skin, anything was fair game.

And I LOVE(D) the Siege Perilous with all my little black heart. One of the greatest ideas in X-Men history. Word.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Once the Adversary tore out of that guy's skin, anything was fair game.

And I LOVE(D) the Siege Perilous with all my little black heart. One of the greatest ideas in X-Men history. Word.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Vonn_Hennigar/freak.gifGah!

Even my 10/11 year old self knew that was shite. It gave us some good stuff when they came back i'll admit, Piotr the soft-spoken painter living his dream life,Havok the Genoshan Magistrate Badass,the new Psylocke and most importantly Rogue nekkid in Australia.

But the actual concept of the Siege was head scratching and i still fail to see how it fits into the X-Mythos at all from a thematic standpoint.

[HomerGator]

Havok from Uncanny 219 to 251 made me a lifelong fan of his. Claremont was in El Zono during that time.

For me, it was the X-Tinction Agenda when I started to like him (I'm not sure if I even knew who he was before that; it hadn't been long since I'd started reading comics).

I really liked the idea that he was Cyclops' younger brother, and he was always living in the shadow of this great superhero leader that everyone (except Scott himself) believed could do no wrong- would never fail.

I also really dug the idea that he and Scott were immune to each others' powers (a trait I think Gabriel Summers should share-that would be cool). That meant that every time they fought, it would have to be hand-to-hand. I remember when Scott was trying to 'pound some sense' into Alex's brainwashed head, there's a panel with the two of them fighting on the ground, and while they're grappling on the ground, they're both throwing off these huge amounts of energy that are flying around and blowing all kinds of shit up.

I also like that while Wolverine has always had an adversarial relationship with Scott, he seems to actually like Havok, even to the point where he sometimes treats him like a little brother.

Plus, I was reading X-Factor when Peter David took over and Havok was the new leader, and I grew to like him even more than most of the Giant-Size era team.

[YouStayClassy]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Vonn_Hennigar/freak.gifGah!

Even my 10/11 year old self knew that was shite. It gave us some good stuff when they came back i'll admit, Piotr the soft-spoken painter living his dream life,Havok the Genoshan Magistrate Badass,the new Psylocke and most importantly Rogue nekkid in Australia.

But the actual concept of the Siege was head scratching and i still fail to see how it fits into the X-Mythos at all from a thematic standpoint.

I donno, it'd really been brewing since the Forge mysticism element came into the book with the Lifedeath I & II books. You had the Adversary, Roma's gift of not existing to the world, and the Siege Perilous was the next step of that.

It gave Claremont the perfect ending to most of the stories that'd been brewing since Madelyne Pryor came into the picture, and created dozens more like the ones you listed. Especially naked Rogue falling out of the ceiling.

[HomerGator]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Vonn_Hennigar/freak.gifGah!

Even my 10/11 year old self knew that was shite. It gave us some good stuff when they came back i'll admit, Piotr the soft-spoken painter living his dream life,Havok the Genoshan Magistrate Badass,the new Psylocke and most importantly Rogue nekkid in Australia.

But the actual concept of the Siege was head scratching and i still fail to see how it fits into the X-Mythos at all from a thematic standpoint.

I gotta say, I wasn't a fan of the Siege Perilous, either. I wasn't a fan of the X-Men dealing with Roma, either. I feel like that stuff should be left for Captain Britain, or at the most, Excalibur.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

X-Men First Class? Those hideous costumes take me out of the story, epsecially since these stories are supposed to happen between issues and no one on the team ever wore anything like them ever.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

eh, I liked the Siege Perilous. I dug the whole X-Men in the outback thing, too.

[HomerGator]

Because I'm bored:

What is your favorite era/team in X-Men history?

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Because I'm bored:

What is your favorite era/team in X-Men history?

I liked the Silvestri issues when Psylocke didn't look like a ninja slut yet. I keep on hoping the purple butterfly look will come back...

[Marcdachamp]

Because I'm bored:

What is your favorite era/team in X-Men history?

This is gonna sound crazy, but one of my favorites was somewhere in the '90's, probably around AoA/Onslaught/Bastion. AoA was fantastic, and Joe MAD drew the best Rogue, Bobby and Gambit.

My personal favorite may be late in Morisson's run with Austen on Uncanny. You had Grant doing awesome stuff and Austen finally got a permanent artist in Larocca and he was writing his best stuff. "She Lies with Angels" was terrific and that Wolvie/Xavier story in Genosha perfectly set up Astonishing. It was just like, a year of awesome leading into Cassaday and Whedon, which continues to impress.

[skylar]

This is gonna sound crazy, but one of my favorites was somewhere in the '90's, probably around AoA/Onslaught/Bastion. AoA was fantastic, and Joe MAD drew the best Rogue, Bobby and Gambit.

My personal favorite may be late in Morisson's run with Austen on Uncanny. You had Grant doing awesome stuff and Austen finally got a permanent artist in Larocca and he was writing his best stuff. "She Lies with Angels" was terrific and that Wolvie/Xavier story in Genosha perfectly set up Astonishing. It was just like, a year of awesome leading into Cassaday and Whedon, which continues to impress.

I would duck and cover if I were you, someone may throw something at you. :o)

For me, the best era was AOA and Morrison's stuff. Either, I loved them both.

As per Austen, I thought the idea of the groups of mutants with similar powers coming together was great, the execution sucked though. Should never have started with it with the wolverine-esque mutants. Should have started with the telepaths since they have been doing it for years anyway. Psychics were always very pro-psychic anyway and I think he could have extended that very naturally and came up with a way to throw them off their high horse and develop a group of mutants with a different power that takes center stage as the power to have if you are a mutant. But i don't think it'd have been being a wolf or having wings. I'd have made it an Iceman centered story. He's the antithesis of a telekinetic anyway...They move things (and on a molecular level at times). He stops (re: freezes) things (on a molecular level) sometimes. It'd have been more fun and shown him as the sorta anti-phoenix too; if she burns away what doesn't work, maybe he keeps around what does.

Oh well. At least Jay Guthrie is dead. I hated him, didn't fit with the Guthrie power set that was developing. (cannonball exudes an energy field from his skin, husk has a sub-dermal skin reaction that changes her structural make-up, that's how i see it in my head at least).

--skylar

[HomerGator]

This is gonna sound crazy, but one of my favorites was somewhere in the '90's, probably around AoA/Onslaught/Bastion. AoA was fantastic, and Joe MAD drew the best Rogue, Bobby and Gambit.

My personal favorite may be late in Morisson's run with Austen on Uncanny. You had Grant doing awesome stuff and Austen finally got a permanent artist in Larocca and he was writing his best stuff. "She Lies with Angels" was terrific and that Wolvie/Xavier story in Genosha perfectly set up Astonishing. It was just like, a year of awesome leading into Cassaday and Whedon, which continues to impress.

Hmm... I don't think I've ever seen someone praising Chuck Austen...

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Hmm... I don't think I've ever seen someone praising Chuck Austen...

There's a first time for everything, I suppose.

[twigglet]

Generation X's team is the best team for me.

Mainstream X-books, nothing gets better than Joss' Astonishing, add in Nightcrawler and it'd be amazing :D

[HomerGator]

My favorite group of X-Men is the original five, both as X-Men and as X-Factor.

But the group I liked the most as a kid was the Claremont/Byrne/Smith team: Cyclops, Storm, Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, Colossus, Wolverine, and Rogue.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Okay, anyone else seriously disappointed in X-Men Endangered Species? Sure, it looked pretty. I like Eaton's work a lot but there wasn't much for him to work with. It was a book of nothing happening and it didn't happen in the most boring way possible. Would it have killed them to be a little more dynamic in this set up for the back ups?

[joeAR]

Because I'm bored:

What is your favorite era/team in X-Men history?


God so freaking many eras so i'll just go with issue numbers:
125-137 (Proteus and the Dark Phoenix Saga)
162-175 (The paul smith issues)
274-277 (The X-Men in space with the starjammers against Skrulls plus amazing Jim Lee art)
Age of Apacalypse
Astonshing X-Men (Whedon and Cassaday)

[HomerGator]

God so freaking many eras so i'll just go with issue numbers:
125-137 (Proteus and the Dark Phoenix Saga)
162-175 (The paul smith issues)
274-277 (The X-Men in space with the starjammers against Skrulls plus amazing Jim Lee art)
Age of Apacalypse
Astonshing X-Men (Whedon and Cassaday)

I really dug the team from issues 274 to 277. The first Uncanny X-men issue I ever read was 276, with the cover that makes it look like Logan has just killed Professor X.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Baird's review of Endangered Species:

i'm not sure if i loved it or hated it, the same with which mutant kicked
the bucket. there were some beautifully well done scenes (logan's future,
shaw and charels). u just think there would have been a more immediate
impact if it was an actual x-man. and yet by the same token the fact that it
was some kid who wasn't being a hero was amazing as well.

i have no review rating for you because it has yet to set in.

[Matt O.]

Baird's review of Endangered Species:

i'm not sure if i loved it or hated it, the same with which mutant kicked
the bucket. there were some beautifully well done scenes (logan's future,
shaw and charels). u just think there would have been a more immediate
impact if it was an actual x-man. and yet by the same token the fact that it
was some kid who wasn't being a hero was amazing as well.

i have no review rating for you because it has yet to set in.

We miss you Baird:surrend:

Can't believe it's a perma-ban:(

[Eric Williams]

Endangered Species was pretty neat, actually.
Very unconventional for an X-Book, in that it was all exposition, but it's a really good way to get the uninformed get caught up in the happenings of the X-titles.

I found the splash page of future Wolverine standing over everyone's graves to be particularly resonant, as well as the scene with Bishop and Scott and Logan's little bit at the end.
One of the issue's biggest strengths was Eaton's ability to capture everyone's facial nuances. If it wasn't for him. this book would have been completely dull.

So I can understand why some people might have found it boring and uneventful, especially for the $3.99 price tag. I, however, really enjoyed it - a great setup for the next year, or so.

[HomerGator]

Endangered Species was pretty neat, actually.
Very unconventional for an X-Book, in that it was all exposition, but it's a really good way to get the uninformed get caught up in the happenings of the X-titles.

I found the splash page of future Wolverine standing over everyone's graves to be particularly resonant, as well as the scene with Bishop and Scott and Logan's little bit at the end.
One of the issue's biggest strengths was Eaton's ability to capture everyone's facial nuances. If it wasn't for him. this book would have been completely dull.

So I can understand why some people might have found it boring and uneventful, especially for the $3.99 price tag. I, however, really enjoyed it - a great setup for the next year, or so.

That pretty much sums up my feelings. It's very clear to me that Mike Carey actually loves these characters as much as any of the fans do (and I think that can be said about all of the X-writers right now), the result of which is the great character scenes this is made up of; in particular Sam/Bobby/Bishop's conversation, the Professor's confrontation with Sebastian Shaw (!!), and Scott/Logan conversation (which was fantastic).

[Vonn Hennigar]

Just read the Endangered Species one-shot and while i can understand complaints about it being on the dull side i still enjoyed it.

I don't know if it needed to be a one-shot lead off especially when most of it is simply dealing with the realization that these characters are the last of their kind. We and "they" all knew this already. But still Scot Eaton shines here and the Sebastian Shaw tease is enough for me. Come on Shaw,take back the Hellfire Club from that brazilian tranny already and start kicking some ass!

7/10

[Lanowar]

I read Cable & Deadpool 41 today I loved the fight scene with Sabertooth in which Deadpool just shoots him to shit.

Endangered Species was cool I liked the whole Shaw/Xaiver convo too and Mercury's comments to seemed to rung in my mind.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

X-books on sale this week:

CABLE DEADPOOL #42 $2.99
ULTIMATE X-MEN #83 $2.99
WOLVERINE BLOOD & SORROW TP $13.99
WOLVERINE ORIGINS #15 $2.99
WORLD WAR HULK X-MEN #1 (OF 3) $2.99
X-FACTOR #20 $2.99
X-MEN #200 $3.99
X-MEN FIRST CLASS VOL 2 #1 $2.99


For me: C&D, X-Factor, X-Men, and maybe World War Hulk: X-Men.

[bennymatthewtaylor]

How often has Hulk fought the X-Men? Wouldn't Bishop be able to suck him dry as easily as Katie Power did a couple weeks back? Hell, why not give leech a shot at the big guy?

[HomerGator]

X-books on sale this week:

CABLE DEADPOOL #42 $2.99
ULTIMATE X-MEN #83 $2.99
WOLVERINE BLOOD & SORROW TP $13.99
WOLVERINE ORIGINS #15 $2.99
WORLD WAR HULK X-MEN #1 (OF 3) $2.99
X-FACTOR #20 $2.99
X-MEN #200 $3.99
X-MEN FIRST CLASS VOL 2 #1 $2.99


For me: C&D, X-Factor, X-Men, and maybe World War Hulk: X-Men.

Dude, you should deffinitely get WWH:X-Men. My LCS owner let me read his preview copy last Wednesday, and it's badass!

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Dude, you should deffinitely get WWH:X-Men. My LCS owner let me read his preview copy last Wednesday, and it's badass!

Seconded. The issue was fantastic and made me forget every doubt I had about the necessity of this mini. Gage needs a high profile book starting yesterday!

[Pat Loika]

X-Men 200 was brilliant, as was WWH: X-Men.

LOVED that last page of 200, where we saw who Hank was talking to...

P.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Anyone else get the Cable book too? I read it first and ruined a quarter of X-Men 200 but if I'd read them the other way around I wouldn't have felt the need to more than skim Cable & Deadpool.

Oh, and Ultimate X-Men was yet again my least favorite of all purchases the week it comes out. I think I'd have to buy a Liefeld book the same week as the next issue to break this streak now.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Dude, you should deffinitely get WWH:X-Men. My LCS owner let me read his preview copy last Wednesday, and it's badass!

Heh. I actually did pick this up today, on a whim. It was rather enjoyable, though not too much happened. Some fun fight scenes, even if I do disagree with the Beast's tactics. I think I'll be picking up the other two issues.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Anyone else get the Cable book too? I read it first and ruined a quarter of X-Men 200 but if I'd read them the other way around I wouldn't have felt the need to more than skim Cable & Deadpool.


Hmm... I'll be getting both of these books this weekend/monday when my DCBS shipment arrives. I think I'll read X-Men first and C&D second...

[Johnny C. TheLastHorseman]

X-Men #200 was easily my favorite issue of Carey's run yet, definitely felt more like an X-Men comics than any of his previous issues. Not that any of his issues have been "bad" just that they haven't really felt all that "X-Menny". This one did.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

X-Men 200: Okay so Mystique is a traitor? Saw that coming but not like this. I'd kinda hoped it would make sense. See, these Marauders appear to have been formed in response to the Decimation and Raven joined the team before that. And seriously, who doesn't think that what Mystique did at the end of the issue won't wind up helping the good guys somehow in the end?

Oh, and the back up was a wee bit more interesting than the one shot and it's cool how in so few pages a better start was made to this story than we've seen in most new ongoings beginnings.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Baird reviews:

daredevil 98-good, i wanted more suspense form last month, but damn fun

ult x-men 83-the art was shite, but the set ups weren't bad 2.9 x's

x-factor 20-was holy fuck insane/great/fun. i seriously love this comic,
and everything in there. 3.5 x's

cable/deadpool42-i'm not sure if this book of x-men 200 has me more pumped.
I wish the dialogue matched up better between the two issues, but c'est la
vie. Serriously I am pumped to see what happens next in c/d especially
seeing the ending (damnit bryan go to the f'ing store) i love in c/d that cable's flashback scenes look almost liefieldesq
4.75 x's

x-men 200-lots of great twists and turns, lots of me being pumped lots of
goodies. I"m not a fan of a few things 1. there weren't that many pin ups.
2. the dialog didn't match c/d. 3. thunderbird one still isn't in the team
picture and 4. i was unable to get the fitch versions of the covers, i do
have the ramos covers though.

[Ryan F]

Baird reviews:

daredevil 98-good, i wanted more suspense form last month, but damn fun

ult x-men 83-the art was shite, but the set ups weren't bad 2.9 x's

x-factor 20-was holy fuck insane/great/fun. i seriously love this comic,
and everything in there. 3.5 x's

cable/deadpool42-i'm not sure if this book of x-men 200 has me more pumped.
I wish the dialogue matched up better between the two issues, but c'est la
vie. Serriously I am pumped to see what happens next in c/d especially
seeing the ending (damnit bryan go to the f'ing store) i love in c/d that cable's flashback scenes look almost liefieldesq
4.75 x's

x-men 200-lots of great twists and turns, lots of me being pumped lots of
goodies. I"m not a fan of a few things 1. there weren't that many pin ups.
2. the dialog didn't match c/d. 3. thunderbird one still isn't in the team
picture and 4. i was unable to get the fitch versions of the covers, i do
have the ramos covers though.

All three T-Birds are there. He's next to Warpath.

[Ryan F]

So....

X-Factor #20 spoilers:

Layla Miller is not a mutant? Guesses? Are we back to the old HoM theory that she's a proxy created by Wanda?

[iGotKittyPryde]

So....

X-Factor #20 spoilers:

Layla Miller is not a mutant? Guesses? Are we back to the old HoM theory that she's a proxy created by Wanda

She's a Skrull. One of the Skrulls was around for the House of M, realized she was a proxy, and then impersonated her and is using her so as to use X-Factor to do certain things in the mutant community...


That's my guess anyway...

[Akira]

Ugh, times like this I have having to wait to get my books. I gotta get home and rip into my delivery

[The Jack Rabbitt]

So....

X-Factor #20 spoilers:

Layla Miller is not a mutant? Guesses? Are we back to the old HoM theory that she's a proxy created by Wanda?

Man, I've no idea. But, I can't wait to find out.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Ugh, times like this I have having to wait to get my books. I gotta get home and rip into my delivery

I feel your pain. I'm dying to read X-Men 200. In fact, I had a dream last night that I read it.

[HomerGator]

Heh. I actually did pick this up today, on a whim. It was rather enjoyable, though not too much happened. Some fun fight scenes, even if I do disagree with the Beast's tactics. I think I'll be picking up the other two issues.

What part of Beast's tactics do you disagree with?

[Kefky]

What part of Beast's tactics do you disagree with?

Why didn't he ask the hulk why he wanted to see Xavier? Why didn't he ask Xavier why the Hulk wanted to see him? Why didn't he just let the Hulk in to see him?

Honestly, I loved the art and the fighting, but the reasons behind the fighting seemed pretty lame to me. Specially the reason why the Hulk went there in the first place. It's like he was bored and went looking for a fight.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Why didn't he ask the hulk why he wanted to see Xavier? Why didn't he ask Xavier why the Hulk wanted to see him? Why didn't he just let the Hulk in to see him?

Honestly, I loved the art and the fighting, but the reasons behind the fighting seemed pretty lame to me. Specially the reason why the Hulk went there in the first place. It's like he was bored and went looking for a fight.

Yup. You nailed the problems I had with the issue.

[Kefky]

Yup. You nailed the problems I had with the issue.

And Xavier hiding inside the mansion after the Hulk almost tears one of the kids in half...? :no:

[Vonn Hennigar]

Damn Marvel for releasing that upcoming cover showing Mystique with the Marauders!!!

Still X-Men # 200 was a lot of fun and that last page still had me gasping a bit. I do want more insight into why Gambit and Sunfire are doing what they're doing though.

[Vonn Hennigar]

What exactly was Quicksilver planning to do to Layla Miller in X-Factor # 20?

It seemed he was seconds away from killing her but that's not the way i want to see Pietro handled.

Sure he's not an respected Avenger anymore and his mental state is questionable but he's not going to resort to outright murder of a girl Luna's age would he?

* Yes i know he killed that guard in Son Of M to steal the Terrigen Crystals but that's different dammit!

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

What exactly was Quicksilver planning to do to Layla Miller in X-Factor # 20?

It seemed he was seconds away from killing her but that's not the way i want to see Pietro handled.

Sure he's not an respected Avenger anymore and his mental state is questionable but he's not going to resort to outright murder of a girl Luna's age would he?

* Yes i know he killed that guard in Son Of M to steal the Terrigen Crystals but that's different dammit!

Silent War 6 established an out clause for Pietro if any future writer wants to feature a version of the character that isn't bug fucking nuts.

[Vonn Hennigar]

So does anyone believe Cable and Rogue really are Dead?

As for Mystique, why is she so pissed off? I know in Late 2000 early 2001 she turned into a real bitch killing Moira and all that. But BKV's Mystique mini showed her as relatively stable.

Any guesses?

[Magnum V.I.]

So does anyone believe Cable and Rogue really are Dead?

As for Mystique, why is she so pissed off? I know in Late 2000 early 2001 she turned into a real bitch killing Moira and all that. But BKV's Mystique mini showed her as relatively stable.

Any guesses?

I thought Moira died of the Legacy Virus?

[Vonn Hennigar]

I thought Moira died of the Legacy Virus?

Uh Moira's human.

And no Mystique killed her.


* Yes, i know the Legacy Virus eventually was threatening to spread to humans but i still enjoy mocking sometimes.

[Magnum V.I.]

Uh Moira's human.

And no Mystique killed her.


* Yes, i know the Legacy Virus eventually was threatening to spread to humans but i still enjoy mocking sometimes.

I as out of comics when she died but they kept referring to her as the first Human to die from the disease. But I guess not.

[HomerGator]

And Xavier hiding inside the mansion after the Hulk almost tears one of the kids in half...? :no:

Um... if you go back and re-read it, he's focusing on using Cerebra. He even says he has to completely focus, and "shut everything else out". At the same time, Beast is working the New X-Men out, and the Hulk shows up. Very shortly thereafter (the majority of this issue happens in a matter of minutes, if not seconds), the Professor greets Hulk at the door.


As far as Hank letting the Hulk in? WTF? Are you crazy? Everyone's seen what the Hulk did to Black Bolt, and they know he's planning on smashing. All Hank knows is the Hulk is right in front of him, pissed off and demanding to come in, and meanwhile he's got a group of kids he's trying to evacuate. He had to buy them time, and he's got a group of X-Men (fledgling X-Men, yes, but these kids have been through a huge amount of shit in a small amount of time) with him to do just that.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

So, I just read Endagered Species and X-Men 200.

Endangered Species was alright, but not too much happened. At all. As a setup issue, it didn't really set much up.

X-Men 200, on the other hand, seriously rocked! :rock:

[The Jack Rabbitt]

So does anyone believe Cable and Rogue really are Dead?

As for Mystique, why is she so pissed off? I know in Late 2000 early 2001 she turned into a real bitch killing Moira and all that. But BKV's Mystique mini showed her as relatively stable.

Any guesses?

Cable: no way. They kept mentioning teleportation technology. He got away, I'm sure of it.

Rogue: I somewhat hope so.

As for Mystique's actions, I've no idea at this point. Her character jumps around so much, it's hard to keep track. Maybe she's a skrull. :D

[The Jack Rabbitt]

http://homepage.mac.com/aalgar/pics/misc/scream.jpg

[Kefky]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=11066

Hi-Fi sounds like he really enjoyed your latest issue. “‘X-Men' #200 really makes Mystique more intriguing than ever. I can see her planning this all along because she hates the X-Men, but how could she do that to Rogue? Does that mean that all she said to her daughter about how much she cares for her was a big lie? I mean, she even saved her life in the Annual when there was no one looking. I'd also like to know if we're going to see a Rogue/Mystique confrontation before the crossover ends.”

Hi-Fi, that's the most crucial question to come out of #200, I think – and I don't want to say anything either way in terms of answering it. I agree, it's a conundrum. Even within #200 itself, Mystique is tearing strips off Emma for not moving quickly enough or decisively enough to deal with Rogue's condition.

You can count on that confrontation.

Man, I hope he's not planning on playing the insanity card here... We've been down THAT road before.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=11066



Man, I hope he's not planning on playing the insanity card here... We've been down THAT road before.

I agree.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Uncanny X-Men 488:

:rock: Another great issue from Bru. I loved loved the interaction between Hepzibah and the other X-Men (notably Warpath). She works great on this team. Larroca's art continues to impress and the story moves along nicely. I look forward to more. And:
I am soooo happy that Caliban is back to his old form, being all small and scrawny and whatnot. He did not work as a hulking tough guy creature, imo
8.5/10

The backup was awesome, too. Go Beast! 8/10

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Uncanny X-Men 488:

:rock: Another great issue from Bru. I loved loved the interaction between Hepzibah and the other X-Men (notably Warpath). She works great on this team. Larroca's art continues to impress and the story moves along nicely. I look forward to more. And:
I am soooo happy that Caliban is back to his old form, being all small and scrawny and whatnot. He did not work as a hulking tough guy creature, imo
8.5/10

The backup was awesome, too. Go Beast! 8/10


There were some things about part one I didn't like plot or art wise but they weren't present this time. I preferred the space epic to be sure but the ground based team is turning out to be okay. I didn't like what Skids was party to or the fact asshole Charlie is back (and trying out the new 'tude on the undeserving Val) but as the whole issue is a major step up from last issue the complaints don't hurt my enjoyment of the book. 4 out of 5 x's!

[Vonn Hennigar]

Just finished reading Uncanny X-Men # 488 and it's another strong issue but i'm disappointed at Darwin's TOTAL disappearance, has he even been mentioned in the last 2 issues? Plus uh is ANYONE going to tell the story of Cyclops being told his father is dead and his brother is essentially "Lost" in space? Things like that really bug me, and i can't see Joss Whedon or Mike Carey handling it so it'll probably fall through the cracks until the Big Shi'ar mini in the fall. That's too long and makes the events seem trivial when no one seems to care.

Masque as usual is a major ass-clown and i also loved Hepzibah's interaction with the team. She could be a fun addition to the team. The Charlie X and Nightcrawler mission to find Magneto is very very interesting and to be honest it overpowers the main plot. Surprised at the Morlock reveal about the future clairvoient, i was expecting the Books Of Destiny myself. Salvadors stuff looks good but a few of his faces look off in places,especially Val Cooper's regression from Super-Model/Govt Agent to homely looking chick.

Still good stuff all around, the back-up meanwhile makes perfect sense. The High Evolutionary HAD to be involved in this concept in some way so i'm happy they're doing it but Mark Bagley's stuff here was phoned in.

Overall though, solid stuff all around 7/10

[Matt O.]

Just finished reading Uncanny X-Men # 488 and it's another strong issue but i'm disappointed at Darwin's TOTAL disappearance, has he even been mentioned in the last 2 issues? Plus uh is ANYONE going to tell the story of Cyclops being told his father is dead and his brother is essentially "Lost" in space? Things like that really bug me, and i can't see Joss Whedon or Mike Carey handling it so it'll probably fall through the cracks until the Big Shi'ar mini in the fall. That's too long and makes the events seem trivial when no one seems to care.

Masque as usual is a major ass-clown and i also loved Hepzibah's interaction with the team. She could be a fun addition to the team. The Charlie X and Nightcrawler mission to find Magneto is very very interesting and to be honest it overpowers the main plot. Surprised at the Morlock reveal about the future clairvoient, i was expecting the Books Of Destiny myself. Salvadors stuff looks good but a few of his faces look off in places,especially Val Cooper's regression from Super-Model/Govt Agent to homely looking chick.

Still good stuff all around, the back-up meanwhile makes perfect sense. The High Evolutionary HAD to be involved in this concept in some way so i'm happy they're doing it but Mark Bagley's stuff here was phoned in.

Overall though, solid stuff all around 7/10

I was really against the Corsair death, largely because we likely won't see the emotional impact any time soon. And I have to argue that Scott needs to be there.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I was really against the Corsair death, largely because we likely won't see the emotional impact any time soon. And I have to argue that Scott needs to be there.

Scott needs to be where?

In Shi'Ar space?

But despite me being okay with the Corsair development, i'm also just as disappointed at the lack of follow-up.

Again i'm sure this will be handled in the upcoming Mini-Series but to not show Scott reacting in any way to these HUGE personal developments is very surprising.

[joeAR]

When did Rogue lose Ms. Marvel's powers?

[Matt O.]

Scott needs to be where?

In Shi'Ar space?

But despite me being okay with the Corsair development, i'm also just as disappointed at the lack of follow-up.

Again i'm sure this will be handled in the upcoming Mini-Series but to not show Scott reacting in any way to these HUGE personal developments is very surprising.

I think he should have been at least in close vicinity when Corsair died, but he's completely removed from it all.


I hear this arc like the last is moving extremely slowly, is that true? This is the only Brubaker book I'm currently not buying, and his arcs aren't usually so decompressed.

[Vonn Hennigar]

When did Rogue lose Ms. Marvel's powers?


She still flys and is super-strong/tough right? So i'd say never.

I know she gained Sunfire's powers in her short-lived ongoing series (Back 2/3 years ago when Marvel decided to give every X-Man an ongoing at basically the same time only to see them cancelled at issue # 12 or earlier despite being pretty solid reads)

Gambit
Rogue
Nightcrawler
Jubilee
District X (Which was basically a Bishop book)
Anyone else i'm missing?

And they wonder why the X-Men have slipped in sales so much over the last 3 years.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I think he should have been at least in close vicinity when Corsair died, but he's completely removed from it all.


I hear this arc like the last is moving extremely slowly, is that true? This is the only Brubaker book I'm currently not buying, and his arcs aren't usually so decompressed.

I'm not a good indicator of pace in singles. I'm so used to reading full arcs in trade and all pacing problems all but disappear in that format.

Everything seems to move slowly in singles. It's not like when i was a kid.

It feels like reading a single chapter of a book. Then waiting a month to read the next, But reading 80 books a month or so plays fucking havoc with my memory sometimes.

Overall though, this arc doesn't move any different from say Bru's Daredevil run, at least to me.

[Matt O.]

I'm not a good indicator of pace in singles. I'm so used to reading full arcs in trade and all pacing problems all but disappear in that format.

Everything seems to move slowly in singles. It's not like when i was a kid.

It feels like reading a single chapter of a book. Then waiting a month to read the next, But reading 80 books a month or so plays fucking havoc with my memory sometimes.

Overall though, this arc doesn't move any different from say Bru's Daredevil run, at least to me.

You still buying many trades now?

With my memory, I always desperately need that recap page.

[Vonn Hennigar]

You still buying many trades now?

With my memory, I always desperately need that recap page.

I'm still poor, but hopefully next month, i'll get back and start buying up all the books i've missed. But i have read most of the books by now but i still want em on my bookshelve.

I think only Y: The Last Man,The Walking Dead and Ex Machina are books i'm behind on nowadays.

And yes the recap page is a truly great tool and i can't fathom why DC Comics doesn't use one.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

She still flys and is super-strong/tough right? So i'd say never.

I thought Rogue lost the MsM powers at the same time she was depowered and lost the ability to recall any powers she had absorbed in the past. Wasn't the Sunfire thing a way to undo that mistake without having her re-absorb MsM?

[HomerGator]

I just read the new Uncanny X-Men and X-Factor 20, and I thought both were kickass.

I was a little pissed that the Endangered Species backup pushed the book's price up a dollar. I thought the ES issues were solicited as 2.99....

I really liked the interaction between Caliban and Warpath; it's nice to see people remember they were teammates for a while on X-Force.
I also continue to enjoy Hepzibah's presence on the team, I'd like her to stay a little while.
Looking forward to the next stages of Charles and Kurt's search for Magneto.
One complaint, same as last issue, WHERE THE HECK IS DARWIN!?!?
Also, nice to have Storm back in an X book.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Fuck me, I didn't even notice UXM was 3.99 till it was just mentioned. :mad:

[HomerGator]

Fuck me, I didn't even notice UXM was 3.99 till it was just mentioned. :mad:

Yeah, we paid an extra buck for the eight page Endangered Species story :(

If every issue of Endangered Species is four bucks, I"ll drop them and wait for the trade. This is getting crazy.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Yeah, we paid an extra buck for the eight page Endangered Species story :(

If every issue of Endangered Species is four bucks, I"ll drop them and wait for the trade. This is getting crazy.

eh, if the backups maintain this level of quality, though, I have no problem with the extra buck, I suppose.

[Matt O.]

eh, if the backups maintain this level of quality, though, I have no problem with the extra buck, I suppose.

It's kind of a pain in the ass for people only buying 1 or 2 X-Books, though. I might not even bother to read them in X-Factor, if only because I'll have no idea what the hell's going on.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

It's kind of a pain in the ass for people only buying 1 or 2 X-Books, though. I might not even bother to read them in X-Factor, if only because I'll have no idea what the hell's going on.

It looks as if they will have a recap page before each of the backups, so you shouldn't be too lost.

[Matt O.]

It looks as if they will have a recap page before each of the backups, so you shouldn't be too lost.

But...... I'm not even paying the money for that story:(



Oh well, I get to gush over Eaton, Perkins & Bagley.

[Matt O.]

Just checked DCBS, doesn't look like they're charging the extra buck for all the issues.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Just checked DCBS, doesn't look like they're charging the extra buck for all the issues.

Yeah, I didn't think they were listed as 3.99 on DCBS. Curious.

[Lanowar]

I read X-Men 200 and... is it me or did you not get the impression Cable had "died" when reading it. Only afterwards when I read Cable & Deadpool I realized actually what had happened.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I read X-Men 200 and... is it me or did you not get the impression Cable had "died" when reading it. Only afterwards when I read Cable & Deadpool I realized actually what had happened.

Fuck, I don't remember. I read C&D and X-Men back-to-back.

[HomerGator]

I read X-Men 200 and... is it me or did you not get the impression Cable had "died" when reading it. Only afterwards when I read Cable & Deadpool I realized actually what had happened.

I only read X-Men 200, and I didn't get the impression Cable was dead from reading it...

What did Cable/Deadpool say (or show) differently?

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I only read X-Men 200, and I didn't get the impression Cable was dead from reading it...

What did Cable/Deadpool say (or show) differently?

A giant explosion of the data core with Cable front and center

[HomerGator]

A giant explosion of the data core with Cable front and center

I dunno.... I just really doubt he's dead.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I dunno.... I just really doubt he's dead.

Oh, I do, too.

[HomerGator]

Oh, I do, too.

After all the crap Cable's survivied, I doubt a blast from Sunfire, a shot from Gambit, and a computer exploding did him in.

I look for Cable to beat the shit out of something rather soon (or soon after he gets better).

[The Jack Rabbitt]

After all the crap Cable's survivied, I doubt a blast from Sunfire, a shot from Gambit, and a computer exploding did him in.

I look for Cable to beat the shit out of something rather soon (or soon after he gets better).

It was a pretty big fucking blast, but I suspect he just teleported at the last second.

[HomerGator]

It was a pretty big fucking blast, but I suspect he just teleported at the last second.

Man, I can't wait for the next issue of X-Men!!! I think since the new creative teams took over, the team books in the X-Men universe are as good as they've been in a long time, maybe ever, if you look at all of them as a whole.

Brubaker's Uncanny does a great job of giving the characters their old voices back, as well as furthering their stories along with new chapters to long running stories (so far we've had the Shi'ar, the Starjammers, the Morlocks, and soon: Magneto!). If only I could figure out where Darwin has been the last two issues...

Carey's X-Men is, in a word, fantastic. I love the unpredictability that book has going right now, and I loooooove the way Carey sees these characters and their universe, and although he is adding new material to the mythos, does a great job of embracing what has come before and building on it.

Kyle and Yost have been kicking ass since Decimation, IMO. New X-Men is a great team book. 'Nuff said!

Peter David + X-Factor = I'm a happy panda.

Astonishing is kind of outside the group right now, and probably will remain that way, which is fine. Whedon and Cassaday kick so much ass on that book... I never want either one to leave! :D

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I agree with the above post.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I just wish Astonishing didn't hold its characters hostage with it being so damn slow and seeming to all take place within a few day period.

[iGotKittyPryde]

I read X-Men 200 and... is it me or did you not get the impression Cable had "died" when reading it. Only afterwards when I read Cable & Deadpool I realized actually what had happened.

Yeah, I thought the big death was supposed to be Rogue when I read it. I just thought Cable got caught in an explosion. Which would be enough for me to think someone else had died but something about Cable I guess just made me think he was probably just rather hurt, especially since, unlike most comic deaths of late there was no "Hey look, it's the body! Hey look someone is sadly cradling it in their arms! BE SAD!" moment to clue me in.

[HomerGator]

I just wish Astonishing didn't hold its characters hostage with it being so damn slow and seeming to all take place within a few day period.

Well, to be fair, it would be much closer to on time had John Cassaday not taken the time to draw the Fallen Son: Iron Man issue. I know what you mean, though. It would be nice to have it on time every month.

[skylar]

i really liked uncanny 488 but i just want to know can warpath still fly? i will not rest till this is addressed in the books.

--skylar

[The Jack Rabbitt]

i really liked uncanny 488 but i just want to know can warpath still fly? i will not rest till this is addressed in the books.

--skylar

...when did Warpath fly?

[skylar]

...when did Warpath fly?

X-Force CounterX issues. Warren Ellis decided to take Warpath's rampage to the skies as well. I like him with the additional power. It gives him that perfect power set short of telepathy. I think its a fun constrast when you have mutants like nightcrawler. I think it would be great if he had it but just preferred not to use it; he finds it boring, prefers running around at high speeds and getting sweaty.

--Skylar

[The Jack Rabbitt]

X-Force CounterX issues. Warren Ellis decided to take Warpath's rampage to the skies as well. I like him with the additional power. It gives him that perfect power set short of telepathy. I think its a fun constrast when you have mutants like nightcrawler. I think it would be great if he had it but just preferred not to use it; he finds it boring, prefers running around at high speeds and getting sweaty.

--Skylar

Interesting. For some reason, I actually dropped X-Force early into the CounterX stuff, so I wasn't aware of this flying ability. It seems a bit out of place, but it could work, I suppose.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

X-related books coming out this week:

DEADPOOL GLI SUMMER FUN SPECTACULAR $3.99
EXILES #96 $2.99
NEW EXCALIBUR #21 $2.99
ULTIMATE X-MEN #84 $2.99
X-FACTOR #21 $2.99
X-MEN PHOENIX WARSONG PREMIERE HC $19.99

For me: Deadpool/GLI (:rock:) and X-Factor (:boogie:)

Yes, I've finally dropped Exiles. I've been reading it since the get-go, but it's lost me, now. :( Though, I'll still probably pick up the Miggy-centric one in a couple months.

[skylar]

Only X-Factor for me, arguably my favorite X-Book at the moment. Madrox has become the coolest character this side of Wolverine

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Only X-Factor for me, arguably my favorite X-Book at the moment. Madrox has become the coolest character this side of Wolverine

I :heart: X-Factor. Peter David is doing some fantastic work on the title. It might be my favorite X-title, but I'm not sure. X-Men and Uncanny are both excellent right now, too.

Wolverine, on the other hand.... bleck.

[Jef UK]

Just got the Uncanny Omnibus Vol. 1! Second print. You can get it on DCBS for $60. Meanwhile, people are still selling it for $200 on Amazon.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Just got the Uncanny Omnibus Vol. 1! Second print. You can get it on DCBS for $60. Meanwhile, people are still selling it for $200 on Amazon.

I'm strongly considering putting that on my next DCBS order. But since I have almost all of the singles, I'm thinking of getting the Fantastic Four Omnibus instead...

[Matt O.]

I :heart: X-Factor. Peter David is doing some fantastic work on the title. It might be my favorite X-title, but I'm not sure. X-Men and Uncanny are both excellent right now, too.

Wolverine, on the other hand.... bleck.

X-Factor is my favorite title right now. It's always at the top of my stack.

[Jef UK]

I'm strongly considering putting that on my next DCBS order. But since I have almost all of the singles, I'm thinking of getting the Fantastic Four Omnibus instead...

I have most of the singles too, but I need a readable copy. I don't bust out those old issues from the longboxes any more.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I have most of the singles too, but I need a readable copy. I don't bust out those old issues from the longboxes any more.

yeah, that's why I've been considering getting the omnibus, too. My wallet is going to fucking hate me if I pick this up.

[Jef UK]

yeah, that's why I've been considering getting the omnibus, too. My wallet is going to fucking hate me if I pick this up.

This and the Cap Omnibus made my wallet just kick me in the nuts.

[Jef UK]

Also, it'll be nice to fill in the holes in my collection that I never grabbed as a kid, via reading the omnibus. That came out weird, but know what I mean? Reading wise, I missed some as a youngster.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

This and the Cap Omnibus made my wallet just kick me in the nuts.

I'm passing on the Cap omnibus, but I do have the next volume of Jack Kirby's Fourth World on the order, as well as the afore-mentioned FF Omnibus.

[Matt O.]

yeah, that's why I've been considering getting the omnibus, too. My wallet is going to fucking hate me if I pick this up.

I'm just going to buy it when it's released off InStockTrades. Spread the spending.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Also, it'll be nice to fill in the holes in my collection that I never grabbed as a kid, via reading the omnibus. That came out weird, but know what I mean? Reading wise, I missed some as a youngster.

I totally know what you mean. I :heart: the omnibiiiii

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I'm just going to buy it when it's released off InStockTrades. Spread the spending.

But... it's cheaper through DCBS. Typically, anyway.

[Matt O.]

But... it's cheaper through DCBS. Typically, anyway.

A little, but not too much. Especially since it's not a special 50% anyway.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

A little, but not too much. Especially since it's not a special 50% anyway.

Right, right. Hmm...

[spencerdidyrmom]

Astonishing is kind of outside the group right now, and probably will remain that way, which is fine. Whedon and Cassaday kick so much ass on that book... I never want either one to leave! :D

Has anyone heard anything about the rumors of Travis Charest taking over art chores on Astonishing after Cassady? My friend mentioned that he heard that rumor, just curious to see if anyone else has.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Has anyone heard anything about the rumors of Travis Charest taking over art chores on Astonishing after Cassady? My friend mentioned that he heard that rumor, just curious to see if anyone else has.

Hmm. I've not heard that rumor.

[lonesomefool]

Has anyone heard anything about the rumors of Travis Charest taking over art chores on Astonishing after Cassady? My friend mentioned that he heard that rumor, just curious to see if anyone else has.

Cant see it happening, especially since Charest typically is lucky to put out 2 issues a year. The guy is horribly slow and just doesnt seem interested in doing super hero comics. I still think it's gonna be Jeph Loeb writing with Ed McGuennis on art.

[Matt O.]

Cant see it happening, especially since Charest typically is lucky to put out 2 issues a year. The guy is horribly slow and just doesnt seem interested in doing super hero comics. I still think it's gonna be Jeph Loeb writing with Ed McGuennis on art.

Wow....... I was planning on dropping it after #24 no matter what, but that would be :nonono2:

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Why not cancel Astonishing? It was created as Whedon's showcase and should end with him.

[YouStayClassy]

Cant see it happening, especially since Charest typically is lucky to put out 2 issues a year. The guy is horribly slow and just doesnt seem interested in doing super hero comics. I still think it's gonna be Jeph Loeb writing with Ed McGuennis on art.
The strange thing is Charest was able to do a near monthly back when he was doing Wildcats, and his art suffered very little. After Wildcats though, he changed and became UBER slow.
Why not cancel Astonishing? It was created as Whedon's showcase and should end with him.

$$$$ is why it won't be cancelled. The fact Marvel only publishes two main X-books just HAS to be killing them.

[HomerGator]

Wow....... I was planning on dropping it after #24 no matter what, but that would be :nonono2:

Well, before you drop it after 24, you should probably pick up the Annual or Giant-Size issue that wraps up the entire run :D

[HomerGator]

Why not cancel Astonishing? It was created as Whedon's showcase and should end with him.

Agreed.

[Kefky]

$$$$ is why it won't be cancelled. The fact Marvel only publishes two main X-books just HAS to be killing them.

I don't know... The book only sells because of Whedon, and I can't think of any "superstar" writers available at marvel right now who could maintain those numbers.

Marvel could always surprise me, but I dunno.

[YouStayClassy]

I don't know... The book only sells because of Whedon, and I can't think of any "superstar" writers available at marvel right now who could maintain those numbers.

Marvel could always surprise me, but I dunno.

Short of having Bryan Singer do his long rumored run, I can't think of anyone that could top Whedon.

And I'm talking in terms of star power, not well written stories or anything.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I agree that it should be canceled after Whedon's run.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

And to those who think money would keep it afloat: At Marvel lately, there has been a slight trend towards artistic integrity trumping sheer mercantile concerns. Civil War and Ultimates still would have sold as well without HItch and McNiven doing every issue but they chose to go the delay route. Plus returning the Astonishing cast into the pool of available characters would mean Carey wouldn't have to scrape the bottom of the barrel the next time he wants an X-Men line up.

[Hellboy Jr.]

And to those who think money would keep it afloat: At Marvel lately, there has been a slight trend towards artistic integrity trumping sheer mercantile concerns. Civil War and Ultimates still would have sold as well without HItch and McNiven doing every issue but they chose to go the delay route. Plus returning the Astonishing cast into the pool of available characters would mean Carey wouldn't have to scrape the bottom of the barrel the next time he wants an X-Men line up.

WHOA. This isn't about your post I just have to tell you your name is a MOUTHFUL.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

WHOA. This isn't about your post I just have to tell you your name is a MOUTHFUL.

Yeah, I was using it as a password a few places and didn't realize what I was doing when I signed up here. I think I'm stuck with it until I die...

[The Jack Rabbitt]

X-Factor this week was pretty good, even though not too much happens. There is some interesting character development, especially where Rahne and Rictor are concerned. And Guido gets an interesting offer. I give it an 8/10
As for the backup: Not as good as the previous chapter, but decent. Damn that Evolutionary is cryptic. 6/10

[Hellboy Jr.]

Yeah, I was using it as a password a few places and didn't realize what I was doing when I signed up here. I think I'm stuck with it until I die...

You can always change it . . . I have to admit I like the "Roman" part though!

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

You can always change it . . . I have to admit I like the "Roman" part though!

Tell me how and I'm on it like a potato chips on bologna! Only, I think Fred would be a better follow up and be more in line with the Doctor Who theme...

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

X-Factor this week was pretty good, even though not too much happens. There is some interesting character development, especially where Rahne and Rictor are concerned. And Guido gets an interesting offer. I give it an 8/10.

Rahne and Ric was cool,