The Official X-Men & Friends Thread!

[Johnny C. TheLastHorseman]

Wait- I thought Rictor WAS gay, and PAD has just ignored that since starting X-Factor?

[Magnum V.I.]

Wait- I thought Rictor WAS gay, and PAD has just ignored that since starting X-Factor?

From Wiki Reality:


In X-Factor #14, a scene between Jamie Madrox and Rictor included a conversation that addresses Rictor's potential bisexuality in a non-committal, joking way. When Jamie asks Rictor if he was joking, Rictor says:

'Course. Not that the guy/guy thing is. .. it's just that Pietro's semi-evil. And ... Gimme a little credit, huh?

As of yet, Rictor's bisexuality is neither confirmed nor denied. The ambiguity still remains as X-Factor writer Peter David points out in an interview from livewireworld.net:

I have much more fun tweaking the fans than actually spelling anything out. If I definitely ... I certainly don't think we could say at this point that Rictor is definitively gay. I think we could make the argument that he's bi, but I don't see the point at this juncture in spelling it out – not because of any sense of homophobia or anything like that but out of a sense that I think it's more entertaining and more thought-provoking if we keep it ambiguous.
Rictor made this passing comment in #14 where he talks about gayness and then he says ‘not that I have any problem with it myself' and there are some people who interpreted it as a Seinfield ‘not that there's anything wrong with that' kind of thing and there are some people, including Rich Johnson (who reported that this exchange definitely made clear that Rictor was gay) ... I think it's much more interesting to have Rictor's comments be a litmus test for the agenda of the readers than if you just show him involved in some sort of bisexual relationship.

[Johnny C. TheLastHorseman]

Ok, that makes me feel better, but still a little annoyed. This is 2007, and comics are supposed to be a progressive medium, they need to stop being ashamed of having gay characters.

[Magnum V.I.]

Ok, that makes me feel better, but still a little annoyed. This is 2007, and comics are supposed to be a progressive medium, they need to stop being ashamed of having gay characters.

They aren't, but Rictor is Bi and I like PAD's reasoning.

[Johnny C. TheLastHorseman]

Eh, they did it with Beast, they did it with Rictor. It seems like instead of just sticking to their guns, they kinda put the feelers out and if they don't like the reaction, they go back on it. Seems a tad cowardly, and a little insulting, to me.

[Magnum V.I.]

Eh, they did it with Beast, they did it with Rictor. It seems like instead of just sticking to their guns, they kinda put the feelers out and if they don't like the reaction, they go back on it. Seems a tad cowardly, and a little insulting, to me.

They Didn't make Beast Gay. In Morrison's X-Men he stated he was Gay and then later told Scott he only did it because they were suppossed to stand up for the minorities and since they were dominant then that Beast was Branching out. I think PAD is pretty distinct and might never answer it, but Rictor Likes Snails as well as clams.

[Johnny C. TheLastHorseman]

And that was a very lame excuse. I do not believe for a second that that was the original intent. It's blatantly obvious that Morrison gave into outside pressure, and changed his mind.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Yes but Beast isn't gay.

Trying to shoe-horn him in as one was terrible. Might as well make Jimmy Olsen gay too.

Well okay that would make sense actually.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

They Didn't make Beast Gay. In Morrison's X-Men he stated he was Gay and then later told Scott he only did it because they were suppossed to stand up for the minorities and since they were dominant then that Beast was Branching out. I think PAD is pretty distinct and might never answer it, but Rictor Likes Snails as well as clams.

I am so stealing that and never giving you credit.

[Magnum V.I.]

I am so stealing that and never giving you credit.

That's ok Because I totally stole it From Kirk Douglas's Spartacus :)

[Johnny C. TheLastHorseman]

Yes but Beast isn't gay.

Trying to shoe-horn him in as one was terrible. Might as well make Jimmy Olsen gay too.

Well okay that would make sense actually.

Making him gay and then chickening out on it and going back on it is infinitely more terrible than just making him gay. Keep him straight, or make him gay, but don't don't flip flop on it (unless that's actually part of the story). That's my problem with Rictor, not that he isn't gay, but that he was, then he wasn't, now he's bi? Eh, seems like they're just not wanting to ruffle some feathers.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Was Rictor ever really intended to be gay? Only Fabian knows. I never got that feeling back in the day. I always took people thinking that as the fact that Rictor and 'Star were paired so much and each character was pretty much boring. Seeing a gay subtext was a way for the readers to make the two more interesting in the absence of the writers doing it. Now that X-Factor reveal on Rictor? I totally took that as out and out saying Rictor being bi, even tho' I really don't believe bi men really exist. Bi women, yes, but not bi men.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I FINALLY read Son Of M tonight.

Holy fuck, is that a good comic book! I was most impressed with how organic and natural the story felt. Pietro's depressed without his powers,trys to kill himself,Crystal takes him to Attilan,Pietro wants to be exposed to the Terrigen Mists,Black Bolt says fuck that so Pietro steals em and then wants to restore all the other poor mutants lost powers. The Inhumans get pissed, the O.N.E. find out and take the mists back because they don't want more "mutants" running around and the Inhumans declare War.

Fucking brilliant and makes perfect sense. Throw in the great character stuff with Crystal,Magneto and especially Luna and you've got yourself one of the best mini-series to come down the pike in a while.

10/10

Now i got to get my hands on Silent War pronto.

[bairdduvessa]

I FINALLY read Son Of M tonight.

Holy fuck, is that a good comic book! I was most impressed with how organic and natural the story felt. Pietro's depressed without his powers,trys to kill himself,Crystal takes him to Attilan,Pietro wants to be exposed to the Terrigen Mists,Black Bolt says fuck that so Pietro steals em and then wants to restore all the other poor mutants lost powers. The Inhumans get pissed, the O.N.E. find out and take the mists back because they don't want more "mutants" running around and the Inhumans declare War.

Fucking brilliant and makes perfect sense. Throw in the great character stuff with Crystal,Magneto and especially Luna and you've got yourself one of the best mini-series to come down the pike in a while.

10/10

Now i got to get my hands on Silent War pronto.

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[HomerGator]

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[Matt O.]

Yes but Beast isn't gay.

Trying to shoe-horn him in as one was terrible. Might as well make Jimmy Olsen gay too.

Well okay that would make sense actually.

I thought that was pretty clearly Morrison's intention in ASS. I remember a few comments by Jimmy that were giving some really strong hints.

[bairdduvessa]

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i was agreeing

[HomerGator]

i was agreeing

Yeah, I know, I was just bored and matching your punctuation with punctuation.

[Marcdachamp]

They Didn't make Beast Gay. In Morrison's X-Men he stated he was Gay and then later told Scott he only did it because they were suppossed to stand up for the minorities and since they were dominant then that Beast was Branching out. I think PAD is pretty distinct and might never answer it, but Rictor Likes Snails as well as clams.

No, that was Beast's excuse. He was actually trying to get back at Trish Tilby for the way she ditched him when he had his secondary mutation. It was very obvious that was the intention, particularly the way Beast said it.

[bairdduvessa]

No, that was Beast's excuse. He was actually trying to get back at Trish Tilby for the way she ditched him when he had his secondary mutation. It was very obvious that was the intention, particularly the way Beast said it.
that is correct and you win!
Yeah, I know, I was just bored and matching your punctuation with punctuation.

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[Kefky]

Saw something interesting in newsarama's best shots today, about this week's wolverine:

I had almost given up on this arc; as a matter of fact I was only planning on buying the next issue because I love the black and white variants that showcase Bianchi’s and Silvestri’s gorgeous art. With this issue I have reversed my opinion. In this issue Loeb clarifies certain events that have been bugging readers since the beginning of this arc. The issue of Thornn and Feral are effectively addressed and a more dangerous big bad, one who towers over Sabretooth, is revealed.


I bailed on the arc after the second issue, but I'm actually a bit intrigued now.

[HomerGator]

Well, that's good to know. I was going to be rather peeved if none of the "what the fuck?" moments were explained.

[Kefky]

This week's LITG has a rumor about Cornell taking over new-excalibur! Man, I hope it comes true! :D

http://comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13

[bairdduvessa]

This week's LITG has a rumor about Cornell taking over new-excalibur! Man, I hope it comes true! :D

http://comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13

i wish they kept tierry on it. i honestly have been intrigued by what claremont is going to pull next-and how kick ass he would have been ten years ago!

[bairdduvessa]

i think i am about to be banned, so um guys take care and instant message me some time (i'm on vacation form the 1st through 12th though)
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[YouStayClassy]

i think i am about to be banned, so um guys take care and instant message me some time (i'm on vacation form the 1st through 12th though)
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Whu? NO!

[Magnum V.I.]

Whu? NO!

I miss you Classy.

[YouStayClassy]

I miss you Classy.

Right back at you. Being on here is like being back home.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I just read Wisdom on Monday no less. Pretty good book but i was underwhelmed until the 6th and final issue which impressed me enough.

Get him and a stable art-team on Excalibur and i'll be happy. But i'm way behind on my Excalibur reading anyway (Issue's 1-7) so i'm not sure how high/low the quality of the book is right this minute.

[Magnum V.I.]

Right back at you. Being on here is like being back home.

So are you Back for good?! You're sort of Incognito man. What's up? PM me if you don't want to drag it out in this thread.

[Magnum V.I.]

I just read Wisdom on Monday no less. Pretty good book but i was underwhelmed until the 6th and final issue which impressed me enough.

Get him and a stable art-team on Excalibur and i'll be happy. But i'm way behind on my Excalibur reading anyway (Issue's 1-7) so i'm not sure how high/low the quality of the book is right this minute.

It's......Mediocre. I still enjoy it but I seriously am looking to trim some books and it's on my Cut list. The day I don't like it anymore I'll get rid of it, but with the story the way it goes, It might be soon.

[YouStayClassy]

What's crazy is Excalibur already has an awesome artist: Jeremy Haun. He drew the AMAZING Image series Battle Hymn, as well as the best thing to come out of Civil War: the Captain America/Iron Man 1-shot. Good stuff there.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Well i'm a BIG fan of the Excalibur roster right now,Captain Britain,Juggernaut,Dazzler,Peter Wisdom!

Awesomesauce, just throw in Black Knight and Micromax and i'll be happy.

Plus i'm TIRED of the classic Excalibur multi-verse/timestream/fucking weird shit stuff.

It's old, i'm bored of it just start telling some good ol regular ass kickery plots and leave that stuff behind for once.

[Magnum V.I.]

What's crazy is Excalibur already has an awesome artist: Jeremy Haun. He drew the AMAZING Image series Battle Hymn, as well as the best thing to come out of Civil War: the Captain America/Iron Man 1-shot. Good stuff there.

I just think Claremont's Story telling is.....Stale now. It doesn't interest me. And I don't like his take on the characters, and he can't NOT use Psylocke in any book he writes.

[Lyfeforce]

What's crazy is Excalibur already has an awesome artist: Jeremy Haun. He drew the AMAZING Image series Battle Hymn, as well as the best thing to come out of Civil War: the Captain America/Iron Man 1-shot. Good stuff there.

I agree. some lovely stuff.

also: CLASSY!!! new name?

[YouStayClassy]

I just think Claremont's Story telling is.....Stale now. It doesn't interest me. And I don't like his take on the characters, and he can't NOT use Psylocke in any book he writes.

I haven't read New Ex since that strange Chamber issue, but yeah.... Claremont is very stuck in the past. And Psylocke... JUST KILL HER OFF FOR GOOD! Or make her British again in purple body armor. One of the two.

[YouStayClassy]

I agree. some lovely stuff.

also: CLASSY!!! new name?

My new duds. Classy's on a... how you say.... vacation right now.

[Magnum V.I.]

I haven't read New Ex since that strange Chamber issue, but yeah.... Claremont is very stuck in the past. And Psylocke... JUST KILL HER OFF FOR GOOD! Or make her British again in purple body armor. One of the two.

I mean Claremont wants Chamber as the new Apocalypse. But Damn.....he needs to try a new style of writing really, change things up instead of recycling and stuff.

[YouStayClassy]

I mean Claremont wants Chamber as the new Apocalypse. But Damn.....he needs to try a new style of writing really, change things up instead of recycling and stuff.

I would LOVE to see him to an ICON book. Something with absolutely no old material for him to draw upon.

[Magnum V.I.]

I would LOVE to see him to an ICON book. Something with absolutely no old material for him to draw upon.

Shit even a MAX title would be good for me. Something where he can splash around in unfamiliar territory.

[YouStayClassy]

Shit even a MAX title would be good for me. Something where he can splash around in unfamiliar territory.

Oo! I bet a Claremont MAX would would be HELLA disturbing. I read his entire X-Men run before I sold it off, he really was ahead of his time with the mature audience themes and all.

[Magnum V.I.]

Oo! I bet a Claremont MAX would would be HELLA disturbing. I read his entire X-Men run before I sold it off, he really was ahead of his time with the mature audience themes and all.

I know, and now it seems like he's all behind in the times :lol:

[YouStayClassy]

I know, and now it seems like he's all behind in the times :lol:

The wonderful world of comics, right there.

Geez, so I wonder what Claremont will be doing? He still has Exiles, right?

[Magnum V.I.]

The wonderful world of comics, right there.

Geez, so I wonder what Claremont will be doing? He still has Exiles, right?

Sadly :(

It's not too bad but again...PSYLOCKE! She's in it and she's like a fucking panacea for the book. She HAS to be there for them to win and shit. I liked Winnick Exiles and I wish he would come back and write it forever.

[Vonn Hennigar]

This is coming from someone who's never read a single page of Exiles let alone an issue.

But i think it had a good run and it's time to put a bullet in it's head. Let it hit 100 issues and pull the plug already.

Re-launch What If? instead and disperse the cast to other books/limbo.

[Magnum V.I.]

This is coming from someone who's never read a single page of Exiles let alone an issue.

But i think it had a good run and it's time to put a bullet in it's head. Let it hit 100 issues and pull the plug already.

Re-launch What If? instead and disperse the cast to other books/limbo.

I sort of agree. I loved it because it was like Sliders mixed with Quantum Leap. It had an awesome feel to it and the characters rocked. But it's sort of run it's course I agree. I'd want at least Winnick to write the last arc then.

[HomerGator]

i think i am about to be banned, so um guys take care and instant message me some time (i'm on vacation form the 1st through 12th though)
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Guh?

[NickT]

This is coming from someone who's never read a single page of Exiles let alone an issue.

But i think it had a good run and it's time to put a bullet in it's head. Let it hit 100 issues and pull the plug already.

Re-launch What If? instead and disperse the cast to other books/limbo.
The fact that it has hit 100 makes me think that the book should stick around.

[HomerGator]

The fact that it has hit 100 makes me think that the book should stick around.

I dunno, I see both sides of the argument. On one hand, Exiles is a gimmicky book, and it's possible that the series has run its course. VillageIdiot said it was Sliders meets Quantum Leap, and I think that's an excellent comparison. Like those shows, Exiles has a really cool premise, some really cool characters, and some crazy situations.

Keep in mind, those shows each had decent runs, but probably should have ended well before they did.

That said, it's hard for me to argue against the existence of ANY book that features Spider-Man 2099.

[HomerGator]

bump

[YouStayClassy]

bump

X-Statix "Back From The Dead" is the best X-arc of the 2000s.

Discuss.

[Vonn Hennigar]

X-Statix never did it for me personally.

I read the first X-Force trade collecting the beginning of the run and was left shrugging my shoulders at the whole thing.

[YouStayClassy]

X-Statix never did it for me personally.

I read the first X-Force trade collecting the beginning of the run and was left shrugging my shoulders at the whole thing.

X-Statix was pretty different from X-Force, where it basically abandoned the premise of the team dying each issue and starting to focus on the core characters for a couple of years. What sucks is it was cancelled just as it was REALLY starting to take off.

I can only imagine how much more awesome the arc would've been if it'd been about Princess Diana like it was supposed to be.

[HomerGator]

X-Statix was pretty different from X-Force, where it basically abandoned the premise of the team dying each issue and starting to focus on the core characters for a couple of years. What sucks is it was cancelled just as it was REALLY starting to take off.

I can only imagine how much more awesome the arc would've been if it'd been about Princess Diana like it was supposed to be.

I firmly believe the juggling they had to do with regards to the Diana story and the move to Marvel Knights killed the book for good.

[YouStayClassy]

I firmly believe the juggling they had to do with regards to the Diana story and the move to Marvel Knights killed the book for good.

The Marvel Knights was the kiss of death for damn near all the books at the time. Funny how Captain America escaped only to be canned months later.

[HomerGator]

The Marvel Knights was the kiss of death for damn near all the books at the time. Funny how Captain America escaped only to be canned months later.

What were the other books, besides X-Statix, that were put in MK the same month? I remember it seemed like just about none of them belonged under the imprint....

[YouStayClassy]

What were the other books, besides X-Statix, that were put in MK the same month? I remember it seemed like just about none of them belonged under the imprint....

Let's see.... Captain America, the end of Bruce Jones' Godawful Hulk run (seriously, his 4 issue arc with Iron Man was the WORST).... and I know there was 1-2 more.....

[YouStayClassy]

Oh yeah, District X was another. And I swear there was one more....

[HomerGator]

Oh yeah, District X was another. And I swear there was one more....

Was that the same month they launched MK Spider-Man?

[joeAR]

Oh yeah, District X was another. And I swear there was one more....


Wolverine.

[joeAR]

Let's see.... Captain America, the end of Bruce Jones' Godawful Hulk run (seriously, his 4 issue arc with Iron Man was the WORST).... and I know there was 1-2 more.....


I think i'm about the only person on this board who loved Jone's Hulk run.

[YouStayClassy]

Was that the same month they launched MK Spider-Man?

That was awhile later, IIRC. Because the Marvel Knights moves happened right before Avengers Disassembled, and MK Spider-Man was after that... I think. I'm going off some hazy memories here.

[YouStayClassy]

I think i'm about the only person on this board who loved Jone's Hulk run.

I LOVED it from 34 up to the Absorbing Man arc. LOVED IT! It was so paranoid inducing and gripping. Then it got about as bad as a comic can possibly get. Seriously, the four issue arc with Iron Man is easily a top 10 worst story ever candidate for me.

[HomerGator]

That was awhile later, IIRC. Because the Marvel Knights moves happened right before Avengers Disassembled, and MK Spider-Man was after that... I think. I'm going off some hazy memories here.

Well, I know the beginning of MK Spider-Man was before Disassembled, judging from Spidey's confrontation with the Avengers... also, the Avengers show up during his fight with the Sinister Twelve.

[HomerGator]

I LOVED it from 34 up to the Absorbing Man arc. LOVED IT! It was so paranoid inducing and gripping. Then it got about as bad as a comic can possibly get. Seriously, the four issue arc with Iron Man is easily a top 10 worst story ever candidate for me.

The series lost a lot when Romita left, for me. I liked Deodato's run, especially his Abomination story, but the whole Mr. Blue as Betty with a new face thing kind of turned me off.

[YouStayClassy]

The series lost a lot when Romita left, for me. I liked Deodato's run, especially his Abomination story, but the whole Mr. Blue as Betty with a new face thing kind of turned me off.

I've always wondered is that what he really had planned, or was that an editorial decision. It's just so damn nonsensical to have been planned out years in advance.

[YouStayClassy]

And seriously, how awesome was JRJR's art during Jones' run? That one page of the Hulk looking at his reflection and realizing he was bald should be in a museum somewhere....

[HomerGator]

I've always wondered is that what he really had planned, or was that an editorial decision. It's just so damn nonsensical to have been planned out years in advance.

Yeah, I read the last few issues twice and I still am not quite sure what the fuck happened. Something with the Leader. :surrend:

Darrick Robertson's Hulk is awesome, though.

[YouStayClassy]

Yeah, I read the last few issues twice and I still am not quite sure what the fuck happened. Something with the Leader. :surrend:

Darrick Robertson's Hulk is awesome, though.

The ending was for sure rushed, because he signed that exclusive DC contract out of nowhere. I've heard he had at least 6-7 more issues planned out instead of that nonsensical thing we got with the Leader's.... floating head. Or something.

[HomerGator]

And seriously, how awesome was JRJR's art during Jones' run? That one page of the Hulk looking at his reflection and realizing he was bald should be in a museum somewhere....

My personal favorite was the issue in which Banner sticks up for that kid against the drug runners/gangbangers/whatever, and they're talking all kinds of shit.

The last page is the alley they were in, completely trashed, with the dudes strewn about all over the place, and the leader of the group has a pole wrapped around him, and he's stuttering "H-H-Hu-H".

That's always been a personal favorite.

[YouStayClassy]

My personal favorite was the issue in which Banner sticks up for that kid against the drug runners/gangbangers/whatever, and they're talking all kinds of shit.

The last page is the alley they were in, completely trashed, with the dudes strewn about all over the place, and the leader of the group has a pole wrapped around him, and he's stuttering "H-H-Hu-H".

That's always been a personal favorite.
Hell yes. Jones NAILED what the Hulk (and Bruce) should be about in those early days.

[HomerGator]

Hell yes. Jones NAILED what the Hulk (and Bruce) should be about in those early days.

And then?

Well, then I guess he started taking crazy pills....:crazy:

[YouStayClassy]

And then?

Well, then I guess he started taking crazy pills....:crazy:

Maybe he cracked under the pressure of all the intersecting character lines. Like that bit he had in the 50s where all those characters from the diner kept killing each other, the hell was that about?

[HomerGator]

Maybe he cracked under the pressure of all the intersecting character lines. Like that bit he had in the 50s where all those characters from the diner kept killing each other, the hell was that about?

Yeah, that made about as much sense as a duck wearing clown make-up.

Um.....and.....X-Men stuff.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I wonder how bad this week's issue of Wolverine will suck?

[joeAR]

I wonder how bad this week's issue of Wolverine will suck?


I've been digging the current arc so it probably won't suck for me.

[HomerGator]

I wonder how bad this week's issue of Wolverine will suck?

I already read it. It's actually not nearly as bad as the rest of the story has been so far. We get some explanations for what exactly has been going on, and some more hints about the big bad that even Sabretooth is scared of. It's also got one of my favorite last pages in a long while. :D

[NickT]

New CBR column: X-Position - http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10703

[HomerGator]

New CBR column: X-Position - http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10703

I can't wait for this!

Quick question.... do we know if this event is going to have the books crossing over, like in X-Cutioner's Song, or just telling similar stories, like in Fall of the Mutants or Phalanx Covenant?

[Vonn Hennigar]

I can't wait for this!

Quick question.... do we know if this event is going to have the books crossing over, like in X-Cutioner's Song, or just telling similar stories, like in Fall of the Mutants or Phalanx Covenant?

I think it's going to be a Hard Crossover but i cant say for certain.

Plus Phalanx Covenant was a Hard crossover too just in 3 different parts.

[joeAR]

I can't wait for this!

Quick question.... do we know if this event is going to have the books crossing over, like in X-Cutioner's Song, or just telling similar stories, like in Fall of the Mutants or Phalanx Covenant?


I already buy all of the x-books so either way i'll be getting it.

[HomerGator]

I already buy all of the x-books so either way i'll be getting it.

Yeah, same here :D

I was just curious, as I tend to prefer the X-Cutioner's Song style of crossover. I'm really looking forward to X-Men 200-not just because of the main story (which I am anxiously awaiting) with the Marauders, but because of the beginning of the back-up story with the Beast.

Doesn't the Extinction one-shot come out about the same time as X-Men 200?

[HomerGator]

bumpity

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I already buy all of the x-books so either way i'll be getting it.

Same here.

[HomerGator]

So, is the whole event going to be the back-up stories (the 17 parter!)?

Or is that like the world's longest preview before the actual Extinction event?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

So, is the whole event going to be the back-up stories (the 17 parter!)?

Or is that like the world's longest preview before the actual Extinction event?

I think the backups are the event. But I'm not certain.

[Vonn Hennigar]

No the back-ups are the lead in to the actual crossover/event in the fall.

[HomerGator]

No the back-ups are the lead in to the actual crossover/event in the fall.

I love that. There's a freaking 17 (17!!!) part story leading up to the BIG story.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I love that. There's a freaking 17 (17!!!) part story leading up to the BIG story.

Well the back-ups are going to be small i believe (4 Pages Each?) so it's really just a 4 issue mini if you include the One-Shot Prologue.

[HomerGator]

Well the back-ups are going to be small i believe (4 Pages Each?) so it's really just a 4 issue mini if you include the One-Shot Prologue.

They're actually eight pages. And seeing as how I already get all the books they're going to be in, and I LOVE the Beast, I'll be reading all of them.

[Matt O.]

I think it's going to be a Hard Crossover but i cant say for certain.

Ugh...... I hate hard crossovers. Looks like I'm going to be dropping X-Factor for a few months. If I hear good things I might pick up this event in trade.

No the back-ups are the lead in to the actual crossover/event in the fall.


Yup.

[HomerGator]

Ugh...... I hate hard crossovers. Looks like I'm going to be dropping X-Factor for a few months. If I hear good things I might pick up this event in trade.




Yup.

Do you already get the four books the crossover is going through?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Y'know, I really don't mind that this is a hard crossover. The X-books have done some really fun hard crossovers in the past and I have high hopes for this one, as well.

[HomerGator]

Y'know, I really don't mind that this is a hard crossover. The X-books have done some really fun hard crossovers in the past and I have high hopes for this one, as well.

That's what I'm saying. Inferno, X-Tinction Agenda, X-Cutioner's Song, Phalanx Covenant..... I'm not saying they were all great, but each one had some really cool character moments, really great action, and lasting effects, and all were hard crossovers (some more-so than others).

[HomerGator]

Holy shit, I just read the newest issue of Wolverine, and a certain someone, I'm not going to say who, finally dies!! I've been waiting for this for so long... since she was introduced, really.

[HomerGator]

x-bump!

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Holy shit, I just read the newest issue of Wolverine, and a certain someone, I'm not going to say who, finally dies!! I've been waiting for this for so long... since she was introduced, really.

Who? I will never buy an issue of Wolverine again until the day I die so feel free to spoil away...

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Holy shit, I just read the newest issue of Wolverine, and a certain someone, I'm not going to say who, finally dies!! I've been waiting for this for so long... since she was introduced, really.

Who?

Better not be Jubilee!

[HomerGator]

Since you guys asked so nicely.....

Feral is dead as fuck. Thank you, Sabretooth!

[joeAR]

Since you guys asked so nicely.....

Feral is dead as fuck. Thank you, Sabretooth!


I was very surprised to see that.

[HomerGator]

I was very surprised to see that.

Yeah, well, you should see what Sabretooth is doing to her corpse. He must have been REALLY hungry....

[joeAR]

Yeah, well, you should see what Sabretooth is doing to her corpse. He must have been REALLY hungry....


Sabretooth's a hungry boy. Let the man eat all he wants.

[HomerGator]

Just because I'm bored, and don't have to be at work for another hour:

What are your favorite moments from the following crossovers?

Mutant Massacre
Fall of the Mutants
Inferno
X-Tinction Agenda
X-Cutioner's Song

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Since you guys asked so nicely.....

Feral is dead as fuck. Thank you, Sabretooth!

Ah. I suppose I'm okay with that.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Yeah, well, you should see what Sabretooth is doing to her corpse. He must have been REALLY hungry....

Gross. :sick:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Just because I'm bored, and don't have to be at work for another hour:

What are your favorite moments from the following crossovers?

Mutant Massacre
Fall of the Mutants
Inferno
X-Tinction Agenda
X-Cutioner's Song

Thats gonna take some thinking. I'll get back to this later.

[HomerGator]

Here's mine:

Mutant Massacre: Without question, it's the Wolverine/Sabretooth throwdown. Alan Davis makes Sabretooth one of the scariest villains I've ever seen, and the fight between him and Logan is one of the most vicious I've seen in a Marvel comic to this day.

Fall of the Mutants: I have a tie here, both from the X-Factor issues. One is the introduction of Archangel (who I miss!), and the other is that Scott and Jean finally get over themselves and get back together here (the first time since Jean 'came back to life', over two years before!).

Inferno: I love the Amazing Spider-Man issue when he fights the Lizard, but X-Men wise, I'd have to say Cyclops OBLITERATING Sinister with a big ass 'fuck you' optic blast.

X-Tinction Agenda: Hodge dumps Archangel and Wolverine in a pit and makes them fight in front of their teammates, Archangel rips Logan up pretty damn badly (I miss Archangel!).

X-Cutioner's Song: I like the way the X-Men and X-Factor band together to hunt down X-Force. Especially the bit where Wolverine heads the remaining X-Force members off. I also dig the bit where Wolverine and Bishop are fighting Cable, and someone blasts him through a wall, only to have him emerge heavily armed, and says "I'm the LAST guy you want to kick into a gun rack." (or something along those lines)

[HomerGator]

astonishing x-bump

[Vonn Hennigar]

Damn, Wolverine was actually pretty good this week. I still think Jeph Loebs a damn fool for fucking with Wolverine continuity like this but i'm hoping for some kind of mind-whammy by this new mystery Romulus fella where it's all bullshit.

Still fun issue all around.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Just because I'm bored, and don't have to be at work for another hour:

What are your favorite moments from the following crossovers?

Mutant Massacre
Fall of the Mutants
Inferno
X-Tinction Agenda
X-Cutioner's Song

Mutant Massacre - Wolverine vs Sabretooth Round 1. (Well not really round 1 more like round 38 but you get the gist of it).

Fall Of The Mutants - Doug Ramsey = :dead:

Inferno - Madelyne Pryor's Costume

X-Tinction Agenda - Wolverine vs Havok!!!

X-Cutioner's Song - Cable,Bishop and Wolverine sitting around on Cable's space station waiting for the X-Men before attacking Stryfe's base.

Bishop - "I'm Bored"
Wolverine - "Me Too"
Bishop - "Let's Go"
Cable - "Were Gone"

Much funnier in the actual book of course.

[HomerGator]

Mutant Massacre - Wolverine vs Sabretooth Round 1. (Well not really round 1 more like round 38 but you get the gist of it).

Fall Of The Mutants - Doug Ramsey = :dead:

Inferno - Madelyne Pryor's Costume

X-Tinction Agenda - Wolverine vs Havok!!!

X-Cutioner's Song - Cable,Bishop and Wolverine sitting around on Cable's space station waiting for the X-Men before attacking Stryfe's base.

Bishop - "I'm Bored"
Wolverine - "Me Too"
Bishop - "Let's Go"
Cable - "Were Gone"

Much funnier in the actual book of course.

All great moments, especially Doug Ramsey. :D

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

So, am I the only one who actually liked Doug?

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I loved Doug's character so I'm gonna have to pick Inferno, even tho' Magik was written out. I loved the Goblin Queen and would pay money to see her back. Maddy as GQ was hot enough to make a gay boy sit up and take notice.

[HomerGator]

So, am I the only one who actually liked Doug?

Seems that way. Sorry.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Seems that way. Sorry.

:cry:

[HomerGator]

:cry:

If it's any consolation, he at least came back to life-albeit merged with the equally lame Warlock to create an even LAMER character with a horrid name- DOUGLOCK!

I'm sure you already knew this. I just wanted to rub it in. :D

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Doug died and Birdbrain got to live. There's no justice in a comic book world.

[joeAR]

Just because I'm bored, and don't have to be at work for another hour:

What are your favorite moments from the following crossovers?

Mutant Massacre
Fall of the Mutants
Inferno
X-Tinction Agenda
X-Cutioner's Song


Mutant Massacre: Sabretooth vs Pysloche
Fall of the Mutants: Angel returns as Archangel
Inferno: X-Men vs Xfactor
X-Tinction Agenda: Tie, The beautifully drawn Wolvie vs Havok/Wolive vs Archangel and the Death of Warlock
X-Cutioner's Song: Apocalypse begging Archangel to kill him and Archangel refusing, basically telling Apocalypse to suffer.

[HomerGator]

Mutant Massacre: Sabretooth vs Pysloche
Fall of the Mutants: Angel returns as Archangel
Inferno: X-Men vs Xfactor
X-Tinction Agenda: Tie, The beautifully drawn Wolvie vs Havok/Wolive vs Archangel and the Death of Warlock
X-Cutioner's Song: Apocalypse begging Archangel to kill him and Archangel refusing, basically telling Apocalypse to suffer.

All great choices. Especially the ones you made for Mutant Massacre and X-Cutioner's Song.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

If it's any consolation, he at least came back to life-albeit merged with the equally lame Warlock to create an even LAMER character with a horrid name- DOUGLOCK!

I'm sure you already knew this. I just wanted to rub it in. :D

Warlock was NEVER lame! :mad:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Synopsis: Caliban and Leech enter the lower sewers after Cal senses activity - and they get ambushed. An explosion rocks Caliban. A small group of Morlocks (comprised of powered and powerless – I think) kidnap Leech. Masque does something nasty to Caliban. Meanwhile, Xavier (with his returned powers) overhears Valerie Cooper's mind and discovers that Magneto is still alive. Xavier uses Cerebra to try to locate Magneto, but it doesn't work. He does sense Caliban approaching the mansion, though. Caliban arrives, the ONE don't like it, but Warpath and Nightcrawler spirit him away to the infirmary, after Storm arrives and tells them to back the fuck off or they’ll have a diplomatic problem. And the Morlocks begin to seek out Magneto for some insidious reason.

This was a fun issue for me. I love the Morlocks and they’re used in fine form here. I’m also glad to see Skids return, as I’ve always liked her character. It was great to see Hepzibah learning to accept her new life on Earth and I like the possibility of a Corsair discussion between her and Cyclops. Storm was used well in this issue, which is saying a lot since I haven’t liked her character in some time.

Larroca’s art has improved a lot from earlier X-work and a bit from his newuniversal work. Its certainly not as photocrappy as the latter. Its actually some of the best stuff I’ve seen from him and that makes me happy.

Good start for the new arc. I look forward to the rest.

[HomerGator]

It's SO hard not to "click to reveal". Unfortunately, I won't be able to get my comics until at least tomorrow, probably Friday :(

Any other X-books out today?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

It's SO hard not to "click to reveal". Unfortunately, I won't be able to get my comics until at least tomorrow, probably Friday :(

Any other X-books out today?

Nope. I don't think so, anyway.

[Kefky]

I really liked this week's uncanny too. The Shi'Ar storyline bored the crap outta me, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this one. The art was gorgeous.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I really liked this week's uncanny too. The Shi'Ar storyline bored the crap outta me, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this one. The art was gorgeous.

I was greatly impressed by Larroca this issue. His newuniversal work has been bugging me, but this stuff was great.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

It's funny but I go t he opposite way on this issue of Uncanny. The only part of the art I did like was the cover. This looked rushed as opposed to Larroca's work on newuniversal and I preferred Zephrem Cochrane there as opposed to his appearance here. I thought the art looked rushed and oddly distended in places. The story was great. It was a set up issue but Brubaker gets that even those need action. Maybe he should Kirkman lessons because there's been little action over in Ultimate even in the non-setup issues.

[HomerGator]

I really liked this week's uncanny too. The Shi'Ar storyline bored the crap outta me, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this one. The art was gorgeous.

Hmmm. Other than the art (for the most part) I really enjoyed The Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire.

Oh, well, to each their own, I guess.

[HomerGator]

Just read the newest Uncanny X-men, and I thought it was awesome. Salvador's art was just....wow (although since when does Valerie Cooper look just like Hillary Clinton?).

This is an extremely interesting line-up we get here, and I love it! Storm, Warpath, Nightcrawler, Professor X, Hepzibah, and Caliban (!!!!!).

I would never think of that group as a team of X-Men, but it works! It's akin to the line-up we get in Mike Carey's X-Men: a few vets, a new face or two, and at least one member that most would never consider, yet oddly work.

Also, the Morlocks looking for Magneto? Two Magneto sightings in the last week? Oh, lord, I can't wait for a well-written Magneto tearing shit up!!

[Vonn Hennigar]

Just finished Uncanny this week and enjoyed it save for a couple of wonky faces. (Val Cooper looks 45 and ugly instead of the blonde sexpot we all know and love for some reason)

2 Questions.

A) The Book = The Book Of Destiny i presume? If so :rock:
B) Masque. I thought that fucker was dead. Then again the last time i remember seeing him was getting shivved in the back by Shatterstar wayyyyy back in X-Force # 4 or 5 or so.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

B) Masque. I thought that fucker was dead. Then again the last time i remember seeing him was getting shivved in the back by Shatterstar wayyyyy back in X-Force # 4 or 5 or so.

Yeah, I thought Masque was dead, too. Oh, well. I enjoyed seeing him pop up with the Morlocks.

[HomerGator]

Yeah, I thought Masque was dead, too. Oh, well. I enjoyed seeing him pop up with the Morlocks.

The last time I saw Masque was in the last issue of X-Treme X-Men I bought, I think it was the first part of Storm: The Arena (blech). Masque had transformed himself into a woman (.....), and given Callisto tentacles instead of arms.

[HomerGator]

I'm suprised we've had so little opinions on Uncanny X-Men. With so much change going on in the book, and with the reappearance of quite a few characters we haven't seen in a while, one would think people would either be excited or pissed.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

The last time I saw Masque was in the last issue of X-Treme X-Men I bought, I think it was the first part of Storm: The Arena (blech). Masque had transformed himself into a woman (.....), and given Callisto tentacles instead of arms.

Oy. Once again, I'm glad I steered clear of the majority of X-Treme X-Men.

[HomerGator]

Oy. Once again, I'm glad I steered clear of the majority of X-Treme X-Men.

Yeah, trust me, you should be. The early issues with Larocca weren't ALL bad, but they weren't good, either. Between that whole series, and the Milligan/Austen runs, I've got a whole HEAPING mess of shitty X-Men comics.

Also, 1000th post! :boogie:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Yeah, trust me, you should be. The early issues with Larocca weren't ALL bad, but they weren't good, either. Between that whole series, and the Milligan/Austen runs, I've got a whole HEAPING mess of shitty X-Men comics.

Also, 1000th post! :boogie:

I read a bit of the early stuff (first dozen issues or so) and it wasn't horrible but it wasn't too good, either.

Congrats!

[Vonn Hennigar]

NRAMA: Looking at the bigger X picture, Endangered Species is coming up – so where do the adventures of the spacelost X-Men and Vulcan pick up from here?

EB: I believe there's a mini-series in the works called: X-Men: Emperor Vulcan that spins out of the whole Shi'ar arc. I'm not writing it, Chris Yost, of New X-Men fame is, though. I've read the outline and seen the first cover, and it's great stuff. It's going to really surprise people. I don't know the release date, but it's not too far away, for people angry about Rachel being left out there. That's the one character readers seemed to really be upset about me leaving out in space, but she's got a great story ahead of her, I promise.

:rock:

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Emperor Vulcan? Good! latest Uncanny? Not as good as the previous 12 parter. I dislike Larrocca's art anymore when it's in an X-book. Is therea difference between how this and newuniversal are printed? I also pretty much don't care about any Morlocks besides Callisto and Marrow.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I'm curious to see what Leech looks like next time we see him. It's clear to me at least that Masque has total control over his flesh altering powers now and can do more than just disfigure.

Hell Leech could be looking like he did in X-Men : The Last Stand now that i think about it.

[HomerGator]

I'm curious to see what Leech looks like next time we see him. It's clear to me at least that Masque has total control over his flesh altering powers now and can do more than just disfigure.

Hell Leech could be looking like he did in X-Men : The Last Stand now that i think about it.

Any moves whatsoever to make anything in the comics remotely like anything in X3 will receive an automatic :banned:

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Did you read the Yost interview at CBR? To quote him "Karma I don't know about, but I hope she shows up somewhere— she rules." Doesn't Yost co-wrote the series set in the school Karma still works for and is advisor to the children who star in the series he co-writes? Karma was never written out of New X-Men officially. K-Y just have forgotten she's on teh school grounds. Maybe someone should point this out to them?

[HomerGator]

Did you read the Yost interview at CBR? To quote him "Karma I don't know about, but I hope she shows up somewhere— she rules." Doesn't Yost co-wrote the series set in the school Karma still works for and is advisor to the children who star in the series he co-writes? Karma was never written out of New X-Men officially. K-Y just have forgotten she's on teh school grounds. Maybe someone should point this out to them?

I see your point, but..... it's Karma. Who cares? (Besides you, obviously...)

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I see your point, but..... it's Karma. Who cares? (Besides you, obviously...)

I care. I have a serious soft spot for the old New Mutants.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I care. I have a serious soft spot for the old New Mutants.

What's Sunspot up to nowadays?

Running the Hellfire Club still? (Sigh)

[HomerGator]

I care. I have a serious soft spot for the old New Mutants.

I guess I'm in the minority, but other than Cannonball and mmmaaayyybe Sunspot (oh, and Darkchilde), the New Mutants always struck me as lame.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

What's Sunspot up to nowadays?

Running the Hellfire Club still? (Sigh)

Yeah, I think so... maybe. That plot point really needs to be touched upon at some point.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I guess I'm in the minority, but other than Cannonball and mmmaaayyybe Sunspot (oh, and Darkchilde), the New Mutants always struck me as lame.

I take it you never read the original series?

[HomerGator]

Yeah, I think so... maybe. That plot point really needs to be touched upon at some point.

Yeah... recent Claremont = crap.

Sunspot even being a part of the Hellfire Club doesn't fit to me (other than the fact that he's rich, and I think his father was a member). Why the hell would Roberto work with those fuckers?

And wasn't Sage hanging out with him? I don't really remember, but if she was, and now she's in England (or whatever), then is he on his own?

[Vonn Hennigar]

They need to have my favorite Cyborg mother fucker Donald Pierce come back for revenge and attempt to take the Hellfire Club as his own once and for all.

Could make a pretty cool New Excalibur arc actually.

[HomerGator]

I take it you never read the original series?

Actually, a lot more than I'd care to admit. I just never connected with the characters. I like a few New Mutants stories, but I just never gave a damn. The book just struck me as the "B" team, and I didn't care about the "B" team.

When they becamse X-Force, they seemed to me like they had made it to the big leagues, so to speak. A lot of that probably had to do with people like Cable, Shatterstar, Warpath, and Domino being on board.

I will say that now that I'm older, I can see the appeal of the "B" teams. A lot of times they have the best books, actually. But, despite knowing this, and knowing that the vast majority of the New Mutants grow up to become either X-Men or competent superheroes in their own right, I still find it near impossible to care about them (other than the three I mentioned earlier).

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Yeah... recent Claremont = crap.

Sunspot even being a part of the Hellfire Club doesn't fit to me (other than the fact that he's rich, and I think his father was a member). Why the hell would Roberto work with those fuckers?

And wasn't Sage hanging out with him? I don't really remember, but if she was, and now she's in England (or whatever), then is he on his own?

It fits somewhat for Roberto, as his family has a history of association with the Hellfire Club. It gives him a good in, if he's to work undercover or to try and change the club for the better.

Yeah, she was involved with that, wasn't she? hmm.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

They need to have my favorite Cyborg mother fucker Donald Pierce come back for revenge and attempt to take the Hellfire Club as his own once and for all.

Could make a pretty cool New Excalibur arc actually.

Can he have a new set of Reavers, too? Those fuckers rocked, until they killed 'em all off, anyway.

[Vonn Hennigar]

What ever happened to Gideon?

Or the Upstarts/Eternals in general?

Is Sam the "There Can Be Only One" Left???

[Vonn Hennigar]

Can he have a new set of Reavers, too? Those fuckers rocked, until they killed 'em all off, anyway.

Naturally.The Reavers were fucking awesome. Plus you can bring them back no problemo. Throw in some new badass members and you got ass kicking villains in less than an issue.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Naturally.The Reavers were fucking awesome. Plus you can bring them back no problemo. Throw in some new badass members and you got ass kicking villains in less than an issue.

Sounds awesome to me. That whole era of the X-Men has been forgotten for entirely too long.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

What ever happened to Gideon?

Or the Upstarts/Eternals in general?

Is Sam the "There Can Be Only One" Left???

No idea. I don't think we've seen any of them in many years.

[Vonn Hennigar]

In X-Force #52, all of the Externals were killed (except for Selene, Apocalypse, and Cannonball). Gideon was not spared and was killed by Selene, an energy vampire.

Sounds like the dreaded new writer thinks this old sub-plot sucks routine and wraps it up as quickly/terribly as he can. Gotta love the 90's.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

In X-Force #52, all of the Externals were killed (except for Selene, Apocalypse, and Cannonball). Gideon was not spared and was killed by Selene, an energy vampire.

Sounds like the dreaded new writer thinks this old sub-plot sucks routine and wraps it up as quickly/terribly as he can. Gotta love the 90's.

Okay, I remember that issue now (written by Loeb). But for some reason, I thought Gideon came back later...

[Vonn Hennigar]

He was okay but the Green Hair for no reason pissed me off. It's fine for some when there's a reason for it. Gamma Rays - Hulk,She-Hulk,Doc Samson etc but when Polaris just has green hair for no reason it drives me nuts.

Or Pink Hair whatever. That goes double for Face Tattoos that aren't real tattoos but are just like a red stripe on their face circa Image 1992-1995.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I actually want both Karmas back. The way Shan defeated her brother WAY back in Team-Up 100 never made sense to me. If Tran comes back we'd have Good Karma and Bad Karma, puns too good for me to resist.

And didn't the Highlander people effective put an end to the eXternals with legal threats? Internet was in its infancy then so the stories weren't spread as pervasively now. I hada been told by someone back then the Highlander people did what the Champions people did recently.

And the Reavers would be cool with a lot fo new blood and minus that weird ass cyborg lady. Beef them up with more Wolverine victims again. Not that there are as many as there were. Wolverine's been neutered lately.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I actually want both Karmas back. The way Shan defeated her brother WAY back in Team-Up 100 never made sense to me. If Tran comes back we'd have Good Karma and Bad Karma, puns too good for me to resist.

And didn't the Highlander people effective put an end to the eXternals with legal threats? Internet was in its infancy then so the stories weren't spread as pervasively now. I hada been told by someone back then the Highlander people did what the Champions people did recently.

And the Reavers would be cool with a lot fo new blood and minus that weird ass cyborg lady. Beef them up with more Wolverine victims again. Not that there are as many as there were. Wolverine's been neutered lately.

He killed at least 47,000 Hydra Agents alone just a couple years back.

As for the Externals/Highlander thing i can see there bing problems so maybe that explained it's relatively quick death.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

He killed at least 47,000 Hydra Agents alone just a couple years back.

As for the Externals/Highlander thing i can see there bing problems so maybe that explained it's relatively quick death.

Ah, shit, I forgot about the Highlander controversy. That probably explains it.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

He killed at least 47,000 Hydra Agents alone just a couple years back.

As for the Externals/Highlander thing i can see there bing problems so maybe that explained it's relatively quick death.

New rule: No citing comics examples that happened while I wasn't collecting for a few years to prove me wrong.

[HomerGator]

Can he have a new set of Reavers, too? Those fuckers rocked, until they killed 'em all off, anyway.

YES! They CRUCIFIED Wolverine, for God's sake! They're too awesome to stay gone.

[HomerGator]

New rule: No citing comics examples that happened while I wasn't collecting for a few years to prove me wrong.

I know, I hate that :D

[Vonn Hennigar]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/65894733778.33.GIF

Yes it is as awesome as it looks. No seriously this issue kicks 43 shades of ass.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/65894733778.33.GIF

Yes it is as awesome as it looks. No seriously this issue kicks 43 shades of ass.

Hmmm, I do love the Reavers. I may have to keep an eye out for this issue.

[HomerGator]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/65894733778.33.GIF

Yes it is as awesome as it looks. No seriously this issue kicks 43 shades of ass.

My question is: how many of the Reavers did Frank manage to kill/mangle?

[HomerGator]

bump

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

X-books this week:

Cable/Deadpool 41
Exiles 95
New X-Men 39

And Mystic Arcana: Magik is somewhat an X-book, I suppose.

Note: this is still just the expected list from diamond. The real list will be up later, and if there're changes I'll correct this post to reflect that.

For me this week: All four of the above, but all from DCBS, so reviews won't be up until the weekend or early next week, depending on when my shipment arrives.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Marauder article on newsarama:

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=116170

[HomerGator]

Right on, I can't wait for New X-Men.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Right on, I can't wait for New X-Men.

Me, neither. Though the end of the last issue pissed me off a bit. That better have been a ruse of some sort.

[HomerGator]

Me, neither. Though the end of the last issue pissed me off a bit. That better have been a ruse of some sort.

You mean with Belasco ripping David's heart out?

I don't think it's a ruse, but I DO think that Elixir is going to use his power, combined with his new knowledge, to somehow heal David. Or, David will join the growing list of dead kids that just weren't X-Men material.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

You mean with Belasco ripping David's heart out?

I don't think it's a ruse, but I DO think that Elixir is going to use his power, combined with his new knowledge, to somehow heal David. Or, David will join the growing list of dead kids that just weren't X-Men material.

Yeah, the dead David thing. Did not like that one bit. I didn't like Anole's arm getting cleaved off, either, but I think he'll be okay.

Good point about Elixir healing David. He did mention earlier in the issue that he's refining his power and even mentioned something about healing the dead, didn't he?

[HomerGator]

Yeah, the dead David thing. Did not like that one bit. I didn't like Anole's arm getting cleaved off, either, but I think he'll be okay.

Good point about Elixir healing David. He did mention earlier in the issue that he's refining his power and even mentioned something about healing the dead, didn't he?

He says something along the lines of "No matter how bad he hurts them, I can heal them." As far as Vic's arm getting cleaved off, I think he'll be all right, considering he's essentially a chameleon, and having lived in an area practically overrun with chameleons, I can tell you for certain that they can regenerate missing limbs (tails for sure, at least). I bet Vic grows his arm back.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

He says something along the lines of "No matter how bad he hurts them, I can heal them." As far as Vic's arm getting cleaved off, I think he'll be all right, considering he's essentially a chameleon, and having lived in an area practically overrun with chameleons, I can tell you for certain that they can regenerate missing limbs (tails for sure, at least). I bet Vic grows his arm back.

Nice. I hadn't thought about his possible ability to regenerate limbs. Makes perfect sense and I'm kicking myself for not having thought of it.

[HomerGator]

Nice. I hadn't thought about his possible ability to regenerate limbs. Makes perfect sense and I'm kicking myself for not having thought of it.

I have a feeling that if anyone isn't going to make it out of this, it's one of the new kids, like Pixie, Match, etc.

Also, I can't WAIT to see how Hellion and Surge try to get into Limbo!

And the Darkchilde!!!!:boogie:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I have a feeling that if anyone isn't going to make it out of this, it's one of the new kids, like Pixie, Match, etc.

Also, I can't WAIT to see how Hellion and Surge try to get into Limbo!

And the Darkchilde!!!!:boogie:

Yes. Me an very excited.

Though I don't really consider any of the kids to be "new kids" at this point. They'll all been around at least since NXM #1, I think.

[HomerGator]

Yes. Me an very excited.

Though I don't really consider any of the kids to be "new kids" at this point. They'll all been around at least since NXM #1, I think.

Point. I'll say "new to the "New X-Men" squad". I actually only recognized Vic, Match, and Nezhno. And Blindfold, of course.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Point. I'll say "new to the "New X-Men" squad". I actually only recognized Vic, Match, and Nezhno. And Blindfold, of course.

Does Nezhno have a codename? I noticed when they put up his name in the caption box, they put "Gentle" next to it. Is that his codename? If so, this is the first I've heard of it and I think it's a crappy codename.

[HomerGator]

Does Nezhno have a codename? I noticed when they put up his name in the caption box, they put "Gentle" next to it. Is that his codename? If so, this is the first I've heard of it and I think it's a crappy codename.

Seriously. That codename sucks as much as any of the other horrible X-Men codenames, such as "Jean Grey" "Dani Moonstar" "Douglock" and "Celia Reyes".

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I actually kinda liked the name "Douglock"... :surrend:

[HomerGator]

I actually kinda liked the name "Douglock"... :surrend:

Dude. I know you liked Cypher and Warlock, and I know you actually, for some reason, liked Douglock, but you liked the NAME Douglock?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Dude. I know you liked Cypher and Warlock, and I know you actually, for some reason, liked Douglock, but you liked the NAME Douglock?

I think it must have grown on me. That's the only explanation.

[YouStayClassy]

I think it's amazing Jean Grey was her codename for such a long time.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I think it's amazing Jean Grey was her codename for such a long time.

Yeah. She shoulda just gone with Marvel Woman or something. Anything.

[YouStayClassy]

Yeah. She shoulda just gone with Marvel Woman or something. Anything.

I always thought it was weird Sue Storm got the Woman upgrade, but Jean never did....

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I always thought it was weird Sue Storm got the Woman upgrade, but Jean never did....

Yeah, no kidding. I hadn't even thought about that inconsistency until just now.

[YouStayClassy]

Yeah, no kidding. I hadn't even thought about that inconsistency until just now.

Honestly, I can't remember what incident prompted Sue Storm becoming the Invisible Woman (I really want to say it was her "killing" the Psycho Man), but whatever she'd been through was a cakewalk compared to all the crap Jean Grey went through. One of the most tormented characters in comics, she is.

[Kefky]

They shoulda just stuck with "Phoenix". It's not like there's anything special about Jean aside from that anyway.

[YouStayClassy]

They shoulda just stuck with "Phoenix". It's not like there's anything special about Jean aside from that anyway.

Nothing whatsoever, but it didn't have positive connotations until Seagle tried to give her an ounce of personality.

[Kefky]

Nothing whatsoever, but it didn't have positive connotations until Seagle tried to give her an ounce of personality.

Let's be honest, the only time the character even worked was during the Claremont\Cockrum\Byrne period.


And no, I didn't forget Morrison.

[YouStayClassy]

Let's be honest, the only time the character even worked was during the Claremont\Cockrum\Byrne period.


And no, I didn't forget Morrison.

She was in Morrison's run?





Oh yeah, she filled the hole in the ground that Scott made out with Emma on top of!

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Nothing whatsoever, but it didn't have positive connotations until Seagle tried to give her an ounce of personality.

I was so mad when that entire plotline dropped off the face of the earth.

[YouStayClassy]

I was so mad when that entire plotline dropped off the face of the earth.

I still go into a rabid rage at when I think of the epic that could have been Seagle's and Kelly's runs (Magneto stopping the Earth arc excepted).

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I still go into a rabid rage at when I think of the epic that could have been Seagle's and Kelly's runs (Magneto stopping the Earth arc excepted).

Me, too! Damn you editorial!

[YouStayClassy]

Me, too! Damn you editorial!

Man, do I miss Kelly's Morrow. I cannot believe how much Marvel has screwed up her character since he quit writing her.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Man, do I miss Kelly's Morrow. I cannot believe how much Marvel has screwed up her character since he quit writing her.

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who liked Kelly's Maggott...

[YouStayClassy]

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who liked Kelly's Maggott...

I LOVED Maggot when he first appeared, with his mysterious connections to Magneto. Joe Mad drew him all big and imposing, and he was just immediately this awesome character.

But then..... it went very very wrong when he went over to X-Men. Suddenly he was this skinny little freak, anything interesting about him was over, and criminey, that origin issue.....

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Douglock was a pretty cool name and I preferred the character to the Warlock incarnation that followed it. Jean Grey? Preferred Madeline Pryor and even preferred the Goblin Queen to Dark Phoenix. It would probably help if they reset Jean back a few years (I know the exact spot it would work in) and give her a code name. Mentat?

[Vonn Hennigar]

Mentat???

That's... well it's fucking terrible.

I prefer Gingertits.

[YouStayClassy]

Douglock was a pretty cool name and I preferred the character to the Warlock incarnation that followed it. Jean Grey? Preferred Madeline Pryor and even preferred the Goblin Queen to Dark Phoenix. It would probably help if they reset Jean back a few years (I know the exact spot it would work in) and give her a code name. Mentat?

Well, that's because Madeline Pryor was one of the greatest female characters in X-history. Kind hard not to prefer her over ol' "Dull-As-Dishwater-Girl" Jean Grey.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Well, that's because Madeline Pryor was one of the greatest female characters in X-history. Kind hard not to prefer her over ol' "Dull-As-Dishwater-Girl" Jean Grey.

Now I miss Madelyne again.

[YouStayClassy]

Now I miss Madelyne again.

If I ever got into comics, she'd be my #1 dream project. I think the only female character I love in comics more is Mary Jane.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

If I ever got into comics, she'd be my #1 dream project. I think the only female character I love in comics more is Mary Jane.

Red heads rule.

[YouStayClassy]

Red heads rule.

Huh! I never really thought about that.... Wonder if that's my subconscious crying out there?

[HomerGator]

Well, that's because Madeline Pryor was one of the greatest female characters in X-history. Kind hard not to prefer her over ol' "Dull-As-Dishwater-Girl" Jean Grey.

Wow. I feel like I'm the only one that loved Jean. X-Factor was my favorite mutant book growing up, and I always liked her, and I always liked Scott more when he was with her.

I must be in the minority, because I also can't stand Emma Frost in the Jean/Professor role, and I like Scott less, now that he's shacking up with her.

[YouStayClassy]

Wow. I feel like I'm the only one that loved Jean. X-Factor was my favorite mutant book growing up, and I always liked her, and I always liked Scott more when he was with her.

I must be in the minority, because I also can't stand Emma Frost in the Jean/Professor role, and I like Scott less, now that he's shacking up with her.

I was never crazy about Jean as a kid. I mean, in X-Factor she was okay but didn't do a heck of a lot. By the time Inferno rolled around, I began to outright hate her because I thought it was so unfair Maddy died and she didn't.

When I read Age of Apocalypse, and saw how good she really could work with Wolverine, I started hating her being married to Scott because it showed me there really was nothing going on between them interesting at all.

Morrison's run was like a gift from the Gods.

[HomerGator]

I was never crazy about Jean as a kid. I mean, in X-Factor she was okay but didn't do a heck of a lot. By the time Inferno rolled around, I began to outright hate her because I thought it was so unfair Maddy died and she didn't.

When I read Age of Apocalypse, and saw how good she really could work with Wolverine, I started hating her being married to Scott because it showed me there really was nothing going on between them interesting at all.

Morrison's run was like a gift from the Gods.

Blasphemy! Blasphemy, I say!

[YouStayClassy]

Blasphemy! Blasphemy, I say!

I've also loved Emma since Lobdell worked his magic with her. Morrison and Whedon have only helped to spread that love. :)

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I've also loved Emma since Lobdell worked his magic with her. Morrison and Whedon have only helped to spread that love. :)

Amen, brother.

[HomerGator]

I've also loved Emma since Lobdell worked his magic with her. Morrison and Whedon have only helped to spread that love. :)

Eyes...my eyes!

[YouStayClassy]

Amen, brother.

Scott Lobdell is SEVERELY missed from the comics' realm. I'll never really understand how he fell out of grace so quickly....

[HomerGator]

Scott Lobdell is SEVERELY missed from the comics' realm. I'll never really understand how he fell out of grace so quickly....

I actually liked a lot of Lobdell's writing on the X-Men books. Wasn't the first issue he wrote by himself the one where Storm is going to agree to marry Forge, but he passes up the chance to be happy in order to help Mystique, who really needed his help?

[YouStayClassy]

Eyes...my eyes!

Name me one thing Jean's done since the Dark Phoenix saga. Go!

[Vonn Hennigar]

I think if/when Jean Grey gets resurrected they just shack her up with Wolverine eventually.

Either that or Angel, but he's been persona non grata for the last decade now.

I still don't know why his wings are back and he's not blue anymore :? Damn my sabbatical 1995-1998!!!

Okay on second thought that may have been the single best time to NOT be reading comics but my point stands.

[HomerGator]

Name me one thing Jean's done since the Dark Phoenix saga. Go!

Do you want an example of some action she's taken/been responsible for, or are you saying something more like defining moments?

[YouStayClassy]

I actually liked a lot of Lobdell's writing on the X-Men books. Wasn't the first issue he wrote by himself the one where Storm is going to agree to marry Forge, but he passes up the chance to be happy in order to help Mystique, who really needed his help?

That was one of his first ones. I think his first fulltime issue was 288, but he'd been "plotting" several issues before that. I'd have to check the web to verify.

[YouStayClassy]

Do you want an example of some action she's taken/been responsible for, or are you saying something more like defining moments?

A defining moment, something we can remember her by.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Name me one thing Jean's done since the Dark Phoenix saga. Go!

Her and Scott raising Nathan in the future were some damn good stories.

Gene Ha!!
Apocalypse!
Stryfe!!

:rock:

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I'm stumped.

[HomerGator]

A defining moment, something we can remember her by.

What Vonn said, and I'd have to point out that in Inferno, she essentially single-handedly saved the X-Men and X-Factor from the Goblin Queen (before Scott did the same v Mr Sinister).

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Her and Scott raising Nathan in the future were some damn good stories.

Gene Ha!!
Apocalypse!
Stryfe!!

:rock:

I respectfully disagree. I thoroughly disliked that mini and blame it for the truly awful one with Mister Sinister set in the past.

[YouStayClassy]

Her and Scott raising Nathan in the future were some damn good stories.

Gene Ha!!
Apocalypse!
Stryfe!!

:rock:

Eh, it was well written but Scott played a pretty big role in that.

And that is one of those storylines that's embarassing to talk about with somone who isn't a comics fan... "so Scott and Jean, on their honeymoon, they travel into the future to raise their techno-virus stricken son...."

[Vonn Hennigar]

That issue where she kicked Victor's ass all over his cell in the X-Basement was aces.

"You're a firecracker Creed,
Me, I'm an Atom Bomb."

Or something to that effect anyway.

[YouStayClassy]

What Vonn said, and I'd have to point out that in Inferno, she essentially single-handedly saved the X-Men and X-Factor from the Goblin Queen (before Scott did the same v Mr Sinister).

In that weird head tripping issue? Okay, that's fair.

But that was also in 1989!

[HomerGator]

In that weird head tripping issue? Okay, that's fair.

But that was also in 1989!

OK, but you also have to keep in mind that she and Scott were sort of a package deal a lot of times, in that any time one of them was in some horrible situation, the other would bail them out. Like in X-Factor 68, when Jean enters baby Nathan's mind to save his life, only to find Apocalypse waiting there for her.

Most characters here would have a defining moment: face to face with a monster with incredible power, outmatched and alone. Instead, Jean yells for Scott to get off his ass and come save his girl and his son, and he promptly "kills" Apocalypse.

Also, there weren't a lot of "character-defining" moments in the mid-late '90s for a lot of characters that weren't dark, brooding, murderers, or carrying huge weaponry. Cyclops, Beast, Banshee, Storm, Nightcrawler, etc went a long time without any tangible change to their characters, and Jean was no exception.

It may be fair to describe her as boring; Scott gets that a lot, too. But I liked her and it kills me that a "reformed" villain has taken her place, and there have been very very few moments of any X-Men looking at this situation and going "What the fuck? This is wrong!"

[YouStayClassy]

OK, but you also have to keep in mind that she and Scott were sort of a package deal a lot of times, in that any time one of them was in some horrible situation, the other would bail them out. Like in X-Factor 68, when Jean enters baby Nathan's mind to save his life, only to find Apocalypse waiting there for her.

Most characters here would have a defining moment: face to face with a monster with incredible power, outmatched and alone. Instead, Jean yells for Scott to get off his ass and come save his girl and his son, and he promptly "kills" Apocalypse.

Also, there weren't a lot of "character-defining" moments in the mid-late '90s for a lot of characters that weren't dark, brooding, murderers, or carrying huge weaponry. Cyclops, Beast, Banshee, Storm, Nightcrawler, etc went a long time without any tangible change to their characters, and Jean was no exception.

It may be fair to describe her as boring; Scott gets that a lot, too. But I liked her and it kills me that a "reformed" villain has taken her place, and there have been very very few moments of any X-Men looking at this situation and going "What the fuck? This is wrong!"

TOTALLY agree on the last sentence there. Oh man, that's an understatement.

But really, a lot of those characters did get some good development.

Henry McCoy had a nice run in X-Factor when he became the furred Beast again and had to deal with that or his imprisonment at the hands of the Dark Beast (which I never understood why it wasn't concluded in the core X-Men book).

Nightcrawler had a lot (and I can't say it was all good, but still....) in terms of embracing his faith under the writing of Claremont and Austen (yeah... moving on). And one thing I'll give Austen, having Kurt pushed into being leader was a nice touch.

Storm did languish for a LONG time after Claremont left the book, Lobdell never did much with her. Claremont made up for it when he started X-Treme though.

Banshee had the whole Generation X teacher role going on, as well as his complicated relationship with Emma. He even went out like a man thanks to Peter David.

[HomerGator]

TOTALLY agree on the last sentence there. Oh man, that's an understatement.

But really, a lot of those characters did get some good development.

Henry McCoy had a nice run in X-Factor when he became the furred Beast again and had to deal with that or his imprisonment at the hands of the Dark Beast (which I never understood why it wasn't concluded in the core X-Men book).

Nightcrawler had a lot (and I can't say it was all good, but still....) in terms of embracing his faith under the writing of Claremont and Austen (yeah... moving on). And one thing I'll give Austen, having Kurt pushed into being leader was a nice touch.

Storm did languish for a LONG time after Claremont left the book, Lobdell never did much with her. Claremont made up for it when he started X-Treme though.

Banshee had the whole Generation X teacher role going on, as well as his complicated relationship with Emma. He even went out like a man thanks to Peter David.

As far as Nightcrawler, you're right, a lot of his development wasn't good. But Austen wasn't writing until 2003 (I think). I'm talking more about the 90's.

You're absolutely right about Banshee. Bad example. He probably got more development than the majority of X-characters.

[YouStayClassy]

As far as Nightcrawler, you're right, a lot of his development wasn't good. But Austen wasn't writing until 2003 (I think). I'm talking more about the 90's.

You're absolutely right about Banshee. Bad example. He probably got more development than the majority of X-characters.

Yeah, I honestly don't know a thing that happened to Kurt once he left the X-Men for Excalibur. I imagine with him leading the team he got some good stories, but I've never read them.

And it wasn't until that issue of X-Factor I realized I LOVE Banshee. I really really miss him.

[HomerGator]

Yeah, I honestly don't know a thing that happened to Kurt once he left the X-Men for Excalibur. I imagine with him leading the team he got some good stories, but I've never read them.

And it wasn't until that issue of X-Factor I realized I LOVE Banshee. I really really miss him.

I got the issue of Uncanny where Banshee cuts a fucking MOUNTAIN IN HALF with his sonic scream. I think they were fighting Moses Magnum, but still. It took him out of commission for a while, and every time I read the Dark Phoenix Saga I wish he could go with them (when they're leaving Muir Island).

On a side note, does anyone else think Iceman should have been involved somehow in the Dark Phoenix story? I know the roster was pretty full already, but it just didn't seem right that Scott, Warren and Hank were there, Jean was of course there, and Bobby was nowhere in sight. :(

[YouStayClassy]

I got the issue of Uncanny where Banshee cuts a fucking MOUNTAIN IN HALF with his sonic scream. I think they were fighting Moses Magnum, but still. It took him out of commission for a while, and every time I read the Dark Phoenix Saga I wish he could go with them (when they're leaving Muir Island).

On a side note, does anyone else think Iceman should have been involved somehow in the Dark Phoenix story? I know the roster was pretty full already, but it just didn't seem right that Scott, Warren and Hank were there, Jean was of course there, and Bobby was nowhere in sight. :(

I never thought about that, but you're totally right.

Bobby.... now there's a guy who can never seem to break into the upper echelon of characters. He's had so many chances too, but the next X-writer always seems to undo that.

Simonson made him superpowerful, but that didn't last long.

Lobdell started making him very interesting for the first time in forever, but after Rogue and Gambit hooked back up that was done for.

Kelly seemed to be grooming him to be a leader, but the stupid Hunt For Xavier but a halt to that.

Austen turned him back into a whiny bitchy loser, and Milligan didn't do much to improve that.

When I stopped buying comics, there were positive signs, as Carey seemed to be making him back into a man again.

[HomerGator]

I never thought about that, but you're totally right.

Bobby.... now there's a guy who can never seem to break into the upper echelon of characters. He's had so many chances too, but the next X-writer always seems to undo that.

Simonson made him superpowerful, but that didn't last long.

Lobdell started making him very interesting for the first time in forever, but after Rogue and Gambit hooked back up that was done for.

Kelly seemed to be grooming him to be a leader, but the stupid Hunt For Xavier but a halt to that.

Austen turned him back into a whiny bitchy loser, and Milligan didn't do much to improve that.

When I stopped buying comics, there were positive signs, as Carey seemed to be making him back into a man again.

Mike Carey loves Iceman, and I'm sure by the time he's done with him, Bobby will be in a new place, character wise.

He's certainly been carrying his share of the load recently, that's for sure.

[HomerGator]

bump

[xanderharris]

Here are Bairdduvessa's Marvel and X Title reviews for the past couple weeks:

x-23 - good strong finish art beautiful 4 x's

new excallibur-i think i missed an issue, 3 xs

uncanny art was great until val cooper became old, i like this story better 3.75 x's

new x-men-art hurt it, strong/curious story 4 xs

cable deadpool-excellent, cable had funny moment 4.5 xs

punisher48 - damn fine reading

new avengers blew my mind

daredevil 4.8 just for the cliffhanger

bonus x-review

loners 3 never read a single issaue only bought because of hollow...i'm lost 3xs

[Kefky]

There's a bit of info in this week's x-position that may interesting some of you guys:

A handful of readers have sent emails about the next inquiry, but I'll let Tim Gunn say it for the record: "I wanted to know if the 'Endangered Species' back-ups will all be collected in a single trade?"

They will be, Tim. So if that's your format of choice, there is hope for you yet, Tim.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

A handful of readers have sent emails about the next inquiry, but I'll let Tim Gunn say it for the record: "I wanted to know if the 'Endangered Species' back-ups will all be collected in a single trade?"

They will be, Tim. So if that's your format of choice, there is hope for you yet, Tim.

Nice. That's good to know. I'll be getting all the singles, anyway, but its nice that they're offering up that option for people.

[Matt O.]

Nice. That's good to know. I'll be getting all the singles, anyway, but its nice that they're offering up that option for people.

Yeah, I only buy one of those books monthly so it's good for me. I still think it's a bit of a cheap trick, though, and it'll only put a short-lived spike in New X-Men/X-Factor sales.

[Magnum V.I.]

So how goes it my Non Skrullian friends? :shifty:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

So how goes it my Non Skrullian friends? :shifty:

Necessito PhotoShop!

[Magnum V.I.]

Necessito PhotoShop!

Soy Use-o MS Paint.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I was the ORIGINAL Skrull damnit!!!

This reminds me that Annihilation Conquest hits next week though :ecstatic:

[Magnum V.I.]

I was the ORIGINAL Skrull damnit!!!

This reminds me that Annihilation Conquest hits next week though :ecstatic:

.Yes...But we were told not to reveal ourselves so soon! :mad:

I mean...Annihilation Conquest looks to be fucking amazing.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Soy Use-o MS Paint.

Nevah!

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

This reminds me that Annihilation Conquest hits next week though :ecstatic:

Already? Shit, I'm still reading the second Annihiliation HC.

[Vonn Hennigar]

.Yes...But we were told not to reveal ourselves so soon! :mad:

I mean...Annihilation Conquest looks to be fucking amazing.

Annihilus and his lackeys will pay for what they've done to our empire.

Revenge shall be sweet.

[Magnum V.I.]

Already? Shit, I'm still reading the second Annihiliation HC.

And it's fucking Awesome isn't it?

[Magnum V.I.]

Annihilus and his lackeys will pay for what they've done to our empire.

Revenge shall be sweet.

Once we use Earth as our New Throne Planet We Shall be unstoppable and the Kree Scum will Also Pay!

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

And it's fucking Awesome isn't it?

Sure is!

[Magnum V.I.]

Sure is!

:thumb: It's damn awesome in the end too.