The Official X-Men & Friends Thread!

[The Jack Rabbitt]

But she'd still be cool....

Just change it to Deadpool & Jubilee. Drop that Cable sucker.

[Magnum V.I.]

Just change it to Deadpool & Jubilee. Drop that Cable sucker.

I Like Cable!

I even liked Soldier X!

Such a cool 90's character. But I do want a solo Deadpool book.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I Like Cable!

I even liked Soldier X!

Such a cool 90's character. But I do want a solo Deadpool book.

eh, Cable is alright. I only made it two issues into Soldier X, though.
There were some good moments in his solo book years ago, especially the Casey/Ladronn stuff.
I just don't know if he needs to stick around in Cable&Deadpool. Some of the best issues of that series have been sans Cable. Just relegate him to X-Men for awhile.

[Magnum V.I.]

eh, Cable is alright. I only made it two issues into Soldier X, though.
There were some good moments in his solo book years ago, especially the Casey/Ladronn stuff.
I just don't know if he needs to stick around in Cable&Deadpool. Some of the best issues of that series have been sans Cable. Just relegate him to X-Men for awhile.

I know, Carey seems to be using him well.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

cable is what keeps me from reading the book usually (I've only bought the GLA issue in the last year). Deadpool/Jubilee as a book gets my vote! Imagine all the inappropriate jokes about her relationship with Wolverine as a start...

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I know, Carey seems to be using him well.

Yup

cable is what keeps me from reading the book usually (I've only bought the GLA issue in the last year). Deadpool/Jubilee as a book gets my vote! Imagine all the inappropriate jokes about her relationship with Wolverine as a start...

Exactly.

[Magnum V.I.]

Deadpool Jubilee Rock.

[bairdduvessa]

Just change it to Deadpool & Jubilee. Drop that Cable sucker.

yes!

[Scotty]

Didn't Ms. Lee Loose her powers?

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Didn't Ms. Lee Loose her powers?

Yup.

[bairdduvessa]

supposedly she's gonna be important this summer

[The Jack Rabbitt]

supposedly she's gonna be important this summer

...when she joins the cast of Cable & Deadpool

You heard it here first.

[Matt O.]

What issue of C&D did DeadPoo appear in? I've really just got to check it out for myself.

[bairdduvessa]

What issue of C&D did DeadPoo appear in? I've really just got to check it out for myself.

lol rabbitt OUR creation has gone to far

[Matt O.]

lol rabbitt OUR creation has gone to far

You made it sound real:x

[The Jack Rabbitt]

lol rabbitt OUR creation has gone to far

:rofl:

I could not be more pleased.

[bairdduvessa]

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=59308&page=855&highlight=deadpoo

post 8543 is the beginning of the origin

[bairdduvessa]

new x-men 3'xs. the art fell to shit and i just don't care for the story, but the carnage was fun

[The Jack Rabbitt]

new x-men 3'xs. the art fell to shit and i just don't care for the story, but the carnage was fun

I look forward to reading this. Soon, very soon.

[bairdduvessa]

I look forward to reading this. Soon, very soon.

eh

[Matt O.]

new x-men 3'xs. the art fell to shit and i just don't care for the story, but the carnage was fun

Except for the Niko issue, the art's always been really meh. And the dialogue always falls flat for me.

[Magnum V.I.]

Everytime I read a New X-Men comic it feels like I'm watching a snuff film. And I secretly enjoy it.

[bairdduvessa]

Everytime I read a New X-Men comic it feels like I'm watching a snuff film. And I secretly enjoy it.

teen agers getting killed makes me happier than a pedophile in your basement!

[Magnum V.I.]

teen agers getting killed makes me happier than a pedophile in your basement!

Man, New X-Men makes me happy. Now Baird, our mission is to infiltrate the world of comics and get one creator to use Gmilf in a comic. Preferably Santos.

[bairdduvessa]

Man, New X-Men makes me happy. Now Baird, our mission is to infiltrate the world of comics and get one creator to use Gmilf in a comic. Preferably Santos.

mission accepted

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Man, New X-Men makes me happy. Now Baird, our mission is to infiltrate the world of comics and get one creator to use Gmilf in a comic. Preferably Santos.

Noooooooooo. Santos would be on my side: GILF!

[Magnum V.I.]

mission accepted

:rock:
Noooooooooo. Santos would be on my side: GILF!

He would totally say Gmilf.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

He would totally say Gmilf.

Pffft. Well if he did, he'd be WRONG.

[bairdduvessa]

Pffft. Well if he did, he'd be WRONG.

you're like maggot, oh so wrong

[The Jack Rabbitt]

you're like maggot, oh so wrong

You're making Hoppy cry.

[Magnum V.I.]

Pffft. Well if he did, he'd be WRONG.

You're Wrong!

you're like maggot, oh so wrong

:rofl:

You're making Hoppy cry.

yeah well if it makes you feel any better he screamed as the fire ripped through his flesh.

[bairdduvessa]

You're making Hoppy cry.

lockhead > hoppy

[bairdduvessa]

night guys

[The Jack Rabbitt]

lockhead > hoppy

Perhaps. But its spelled Lockheed.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

A) How many of the 198 remaining mutants (and is this before or after the mutants murdered in New X-Men) were shown to be living on the game preserve Xavier's was turned into?

2) Jamie Madrox was stated to be a throwback to the days of unsuccessful mutations (unsuccessful because they happened at birth rather than puberty and were usually killed) and I was wondering who else is in that category. Beast and Nightcrawler to be certain but how many otehrs are there? I get from X-Factor that these are very much also mutants but just a slightly different class. Did 'no more mutants' miss this sub-class and we could conceivably have more than 198 in actuality?

[bairdduvessa]

A) How many of the 198 remaining mutants (and is this before or after the mutants murdered in New X-Men) were shown to be living on the game preserve Xavier's was turned into?

2) Jamie Madrox was stated to be a throwback to the days of unsuccessful mutations (unsuccessful because they happened at birth rather than puberty and were usually killed) and I was wondering who else is in that category. Beast and Nightcrawler to be certain but how many otehrs are there? I get from X-Factor that these are very much also mutants but just a slightly different class. Did 'no more mutants' miss this sub-class and we could conceivably have more than 198 in actuality?

so many to remember

[bairdduvessa]

lots this week
cable/deadpool 40!, Ultimate X-Men 82, Uncanny 468 and X-Factor 19

[The Jack Rabbitt]

lots this week
cable/deadpool 40!, Ultimate X-Men 82, Uncanny 468 and X-Factor 19

All but Ultimate X-Men for me.

Uncanny and X-Factor from the shop.
C&D (:rock:) from DCBS.

[bairdduvessa]

All but Ultimate X-Men for me.

Uncanny and X-Factor from the shop.
C&D (:rock:) from DCBS.

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[The Jack Rabbitt]

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Why :twisted:?

[bairdduvessa]

because i felt like it.


so do we get to see more awesomeness of bob?

[The Jack Rabbitt]

because i felt like it.


so do we get to see more awesomeness of bob?

I hope so, but I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't. Isn't this issue the Cable/X-Men centric one (somewhat tying into the current arc in X-Men)?

[bairdduvessa]

I hope so, but I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't. Isn't this issue the Cable/X-Men centric one (somewhat tying into the current arc in X-Men)?

bob must get a cameo

[The Jack Rabbitt]

bob must get a cameo

...or a spinoff!

Jubilee and Bob: Agent of Hydra

[bairdduvessa]

...or a spinoff!

Jubilee and Bob: Agent of Hydra

yes!-and they can track down and kill a resurrected maggot

[The Jack Rabbitt]

yes!-and they can track down and kill a resurrected maggot

Why must you torment me so?

Can they adopt the slugs after they kill Maggott, at least?

[bairdduvessa]

Why must you torment me so?

Can they adopt the slugs after they kill Maggott, at least?

one of his slugs was kept by sinister in a jar

[Vonn Hennigar]

Whooooo Uncanny X-Men. I'm going to read all 12 in a row this weekend (For the first time too) and i'm looking forward to it. Especially since with no monthly wait, it'll read much better i'm sure but then again everything does.

[Matt O.]

Whooooo Uncanny X-Men. I'm going to read all 12 in a row this weekend (For the first time too) and i'm looking forward to it. Especially since with no monthly wait, it'll read much better i'm sure but then again everything does.

Are you still buying many trades, Vonn?


It was pretty solid writing, but the plot was pretty horrendous.

[bairdduvessa]

Whooooo Uncanny X-Men. I'm going to read all 12 in a row this weekend (For the first time too) and i'm looking forward to it. Especially since with no monthly wait, it'll read much better i'm sure but then again everything does.

i really think it would read a hell of a lot better in trade

[The Jack Rabbitt]

one of his slugs was kept by sinister in a jar

Really? Awesome.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

i really think it would read a hell of a lot better in trade

I'd like to sit down and re-read 'em all sometime this week, but I doubt I'll find the time.

[bairdduvessa]

Really? Awesome.
yea, he stole it form some kid. the other one was gassed with maggot
I'd like to sit down and re-read 'em all sometime this week, but I doubt I'll find the time.

i don't know where i've put all the issues lol

[The Jack Rabbitt]

yea, he stole it form some kid. the other one was gassed with maggot


At least one survived. Now I shall wait patiently for it to be used in a story somewhere.

[bairdduvessa]

At least one survived. Now I shall wait patiently for it to be used in a story somewhere.

they are about to resurect the fossilized remains but too late bender throws it in lava?

[ronmol3x]

Whats your favorite Xmen trade?

[Vonn Hennigar]

Whats your favorite Xmen trade?

Essential X-Men 2 (120-144, Annual 3-4) w Chris Claremont; a John Byrne, Brent Anderson, George Pérez, John Romita Jr.). [From Marvel Comics: Marvel continues its Essential series with this companion edition to The Essential X-Men. At a whopping 528 pages, this bargain-priced collection gathers The Uncanny X-Men #120-145.]

If you don't enjoy this, you're an idiot. Plain and simple.

[Matt O.]

Think a few people will be interested in this:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10568

[bairdduvessa]

x-cutioner's song. it's what was there when i started to read, and it still is my favorite story

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Think a few people will be interested in this:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10568

I cant wait for Deadpool/GLI

[bairdduvessa]

Think a few people will be interested in this:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10568

baird's a happy, happy guy

[HomerGator]

Whats your favorite Xmen trade?

My favorite will always be The Dark Phoenix Saga. Kickass lineup, great villains, insane Jean Grey, what's not to like?

[The Jack Rabbitt]

My favorite will always be The Dark Phoenix Saga. Kickass lineup, great villains, insane Jean Grey, what's not to like?

Such a good story.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I officially hate you people. I probably will be picking up Cable\Deadpool tomorrow (only my second ever of the current run) and I have this mortal fear I will enjoy it enough to add it to my pull list. I blame each and every one of you for this!

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I officially hate you people. I probably will be picking up Cable\Deadpool tomorrow (only my second ever of the current run) and I have this mortal fear I will enjoy it enough to add it to my pull list. I blame each and every one of you for this!

I accept this blame.

[bairdduvessa]

I officially hate you people. I probably will be picking up Cable\Deadpool tomorrow (only my second ever of the current run) and I have this mortal fear I will enjoy it enough to add it to my pull list. I blame each and every one of you for this!

the blame shall be worth it. although i don't know if you will know what the fuck is going on

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I just started picking up Carey's awful X-Men series because the crossover's coming. I can take a book written by Fabian in the middle of storylines. The guy's pretty much old school when it comes to his books being accessible.

[Foggy's Pal]

X-Factor consistently has a phenomenal story. Jamie Madrox is quickly becoming one of my favorite protagonist. If this book had a big name artist, it could be the top selling X-book. (I'm talking Finch, Cassaday, McNiven) To me, the art on this book has been average at best, yet it is still one of my favorites. That, to me, says a lot about Peter David's ability.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

X-Factor consistently has a phenomenal story. Jamie Madrox is quickly becoming one of my favorite protagonist. If this book had a big name artist, it could be the top selling X-book. (I'm talking Finch, Cassaday, McNiven) To me, the art on this book has been average at best, yet it is still one of my favorites. That, to me, says a lot about Peter David's ability.

I disagree about the art. I love Raimondi's work.

I just got back from the shop with the new issue. Can't wait to dig in.

[Lanowar]

X-Factor consistently has a phenomenal story. Jamie Madrox is quickly becoming one of my favorite protagonist. If this book had a big name artist, it could be the top selling X-book. (I'm talking Finch, Cassaday, McNiven) To me, the art on this book has been average at best, yet it is still one of my favorites. That, to me, says a lot about Peter David's ability.

X-Factor's good but I wish we'd get more time with the supporting cast for a long time it seems more like Madrox and pals.

As for C&D hot damn the little book that people thought could'nt gets itself a crossover that might increase sales past the loyal 65 readers!

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

i want to like X-Factor more than I do but I really don't like almost the entire cast, or at least PAD's takes on them. I do like Ramondi's art better than any of the others but I think the approach PAD is taking here would work better with a solo project. Not that I'd like a solo ongoing for Jamie but most of the cast feel like afterthoughts rather than co-stars. is there another X character that would benefit from the brains and inventiveness of PAD? I'd say Rogue but I am still feeling the aftereffects of too much gambit and Rogue over too many years.

[Foggy's Pal]

i want to like X-Factor more than I do but I really don't like almost the entire cast, or at least PAD's takes on them. I do like Ramondi's art better than any of the others but I think the approach PAD is taking here would work better with a solo project. Not that I'd like a solo ongoing for Jamie but most of the cast feel like afterthoughts rather than co-stars. is there another X character that would benefit from the brains and inventiveness of PAD? I'd say Rogue but I am still feeling the aftereffects of too much gambit and Rogue over too many years.

He could do some great stuff with Darwin. He is really yet to be explored.

[Foggy's Pal]

I disagree about the art. I love Raimondi's work.

I just got back from the shop with the new issue. Can't wait to dig in.

Unfortunately, the art is not consistent. too many change ups.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Anyone else disappointed in X-Factor this week? I'm beginning to realize that the only thing seperating this book from the other D list collection of heroes in New Excalibur is the quality of the writer. I just don't think even PAD is going to keep me reading much longer if the stories are all about people I don't care about doing things that really don't matter. At least it was a damn sight better than the train wreck Ultimate X-Men 82 was. The art and story did the impossible and became worse than preceeding issues. I think the only book that looked worse this week was Countdown 50 and the only one written worse was that godawful shit between the covers of All Star Batman And Robin 5. When did Frank Miller morph into 80's Howard Chaykin anyway? I wish I still had his DD run in my collection to wipe the vile taste of ASBAR from my brain. At least Uncanny was kick ass. Loved the ending beyond belief and the re-mutantification cancels out at least one of New X-Men's murders so we stay at 198.

Did I ramble? Oops...

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Yeah, okay, I have a mad love for the obscure horrible X-villains. I am loving that so many are popping up in X-Factor.

Uncanny this week was pretty decent. The action battle scene could've probably been done better and I'm still not a huge fan of Tan's work. The ending was what really sold me. Even though we'd basically already predicted the outcome, it was great to see it on paper. The death in the issue didn't bother me nearly as much as I thought it would. After it happened, I said to myself, "Huh. I'm okay with this. There's some good story potential in the offing."

[Vonn Hennigar]

Any guesses as to who the new Creative Team will be on Wolverine? Jeph Loeb and Simone Bianchi's run ends in July so unless these upcoming Solicits are simply a fill-in we'll know by Tuesday.

Crossing my fingers for a Marc Guggenheim reunion. His Civil War arc was an absolute blast and even though i think Humberto Ramos isn't suited to such an book if that's what it'll take for Marc to come back i'll be all for it.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Any guesses as to who the new Creative Team will be on Wolverine? Jeph Loeb and Simone Bianchi's run ends in July so unless these upcoming Solicits are simply a fill-in we'll know by Tuesday.

Crossing my fingers for a Marc Guggenheim reunion. His Civil War arc was an absolute blast and even though i think Humberto Ramos isn't suited to such an book if that's what it'll take for Marc to come back i'll be all for it.

Sigh. I'm so far gone when it comes to Wolverine that I can't even imagine attempting to muster the energy it would require to become excited for a creative team on Wolverine. However, from what I hear, it sounds like anything would be better than Loeb's run.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Sigh. I'm so far gone when it comes to Wolverine that I can't even imagine attempting to muster the energy it would require to become excited for a creative team on Wolverine. However, from what I hear, it sounds like anything would be better than Loeb's run.

I read Wolverine #50-52 yesterday and it has it's up's and downs. Simone Bianchi's stuff looks great and everything that has nothing to do with the horrible flashbacks is actually quite good. Wolverine vs Sabretooth,Black Panther,Storm etc etc.

But these stupid horrifically bad flashbacks with the Lupines and the pre-historic shit is as bad an idea as i've seen in comics this decade. I literally have no clue what the fuck Loeb's thinking. I can only hope that it'll be ignored by everyone else forever.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I read Wolverine #50-52 yesterday and it has it's up's and downs. Simone Bianchi's stuff looks great and everything that has nothing to do with the horrible flashbacks is actually quite good. Wolverine vs Sabretooth,Black Panther,Storm etc etc.

But these stupid horrifically bad flashbacks with the Lupines and the pre-historic shit is as bad an idea as i've seen in comics this decade. I literally have no clue what the fuck Loeb's thinking. I can only hope that it'll be ignored by everyone else forever.

Yep, that would be the horrible crap I've heard rumblings of here and there. Sounds like one incredible bizarre and unneccessary retcon.

And I plan on ignoring it completely, made all the easier by not actually reading the issues in question.

[bairdduvessa]

so much great x-mess....so much fun. fatman no know where to start

[Vonn Hennigar]

I read Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk # 1 & 2 yesterday.

Okay first it's LATE disgustingly so and it's a disgrace.

But... Damn that was fun. Absolutely LOVED it and i want to see Damon Lindelof write more comics. Just get the scripts in before publishing and stop looking like a bunch of retards whenever stuff like this happens.

[bairdduvessa]

cable/deadpool. Art sucked. It was really uneven. SOme scenes were great, then wicked bad. BUt story wise it was a lot of fun. For the best few months we've seen the inner workings of Wade...now we see Nate. And I know people like to dump on Fabian, but damn does he know inner psyches of these characters.. Art 1 x. Story 4.5 xs

Uncanny-sadly ever copy in my store was damaged. But damn, this was the best issue of the arch. SO much chaos. SO much fun. ANd surprises I didn't see coming. the fucking skunk lady is an x-men now! :boogie: I'm not happy with one thing though xavier getting his powers back. Sigh. 4.5 xs

Ultimate X-Men-not as good as last issue. Cyke and Jean are arguing over school policy. Toad is sent on a mission. Kurt meets the Morlocks. Bishop begins forming his team (mother fucking pyro beyatches!)
3.5 x's

[bairdduvessa]

I read Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk # 1 & 2 yesterday.

Okay first it's LATE disgustingly so and it's a disgrace.

But... Damn that was fun. Absolutely LOVED it and i want to see Damon Lindelof write more comics. Just get the scripts in before publishing and stop looking like a bunch of retards whenever stuff like this happens.

agreed

[bairdduvessa]

did i mention that in c/d we have a strip poker game featuring deadpool, bob, alex, outlwaw and sandi?

[Matt O.]

cable/deadpool. Art sucked. It was really uneven. SOme scenes were great, then wicked bad. BUt story wise it was a lot of fun. For the best few months we've seen the inner workings of Wade...now we see Nate. And I know people like to dump on Fabian, but damn does he know inner psyches of these characters.. Art 1 x. Story 4.5 xs

Uncanny-sadly ever copy in my store was damaged. But damn, this was the best issue of the arch. SO much chaos. SO much fun. ANd surprises I didn't see coming. the fucking skunk lady is an x-men now! :boogie: I'm not happy with one thing though xavier getting his powers back. Sigh. 4.5 xs

Xavier got his powers back? Shit. I wanted him to be depowered for a longer amount of time. I get mine from DCBS either tomorrow or Saturday.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Uncanny-sadly ever copy in my store was damaged. But damn, this was the best issue of the arch. SO much chaos. SO much fun. ANd surprises I didn't see coming. the fucking skunk lady is an x-men now! :boogie: I'm not happy with one thing though xavier getting his powers back. Sigh. 4.5 xs


I'm a big fan of Hepzibah joining the X-crew. I love it.

And I agree about Xavier's powers. But I think we all knew it was going to happen at some point.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

did i mention that in c/d we have a strip poker game featuring deadpool, bob, alex, outlwaw and sandi?

:eek:

I can't wait to read this!

[bairdduvessa]

Xavier got his powers back? Shit. I wanted him to be depowered for a longer amount of time. I get mine from DCBS either tomorrow or Saturday.
sadly yes
I'm a big fan of Hepzibah joining the X-crew. I love it.

And I agree about Xavier's powers. But I think we all knew it was going to happen at some point.

yea we knew it was going to happen, i wanted there to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more time

[Matt O.]

sadly yes


yea we knew it was going to happen, i wanted there to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more time

Can he still walk? It seems like he's only been allowed one or another, powers or legs.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

yea we knew it was going to happen, i wanted there to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more time

But look on the bright side:

We now have cat lady and got rid of Havok/Polaris in one fell swoop!

[bairdduvessa]

Can he still walk? It seems like he's only been allowed one or another, powers or legs.
yes he can
But look on the bright side:

We now have cat lady and got rid of Havok/Polaris in one fell swoop!

mmmmmm new pussy. wait what?

i have rather not really enjoyed uncanny this past year. but now....now I definately can't wait to see what happens next. even if it does involve *yawn*storm*yawn*

[Matt O.]

But look on the bright side:

We now have cat lady and got rid of Havok/Polaris in one fell swoop!

Woah, we did? Do tell. I'm too impatient to wait for my shipment to arrive.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

mmmmmm new pussy. wait what?

i have rather not really enjoyed uncanny this past year. but now....now I definately can't wait to see what happens next. even if it does involve *yawn*storm*yawn*

I've been underwhelmed lately but its still been fairly solid.
And I am fucking stoked for the next arc.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Woah, we did? Do tell. I'm too impatient to wait for my shipment to arrive.

Havok, Polaris, Rachel, and Korvus were all stranded in Shi'Ar space with Raza and Ch'od. This group is now the new Starjammers and have made it their mission to hunt down and kill Vulcan. Meanwhile, Hepzibah is stranded on Earth with the x-crew.

[Matt O.]

yes he can


mmmmmm new pussy. wait what?

i have rather not really enjoyed uncanny this past year. but now....now I definately can't wait to see what happens next. even if it does involve *yawn*storm*yawn*

Aghhh..... Storm sucks now. And I've been extremely disappointed by Uncanny, especially since Bru is one of my top 3 favorite writers working today. I'm trade-waiting from now on.

[Ryan F]

But look on the bright side:

We now have cat lady and got rid of Havok/Polaris in one fell swoop!

skunk lady, you mean.

[Matt O.]

Havok, Polaris, Rachel, and Korvus were all stranded in Shi'Ar space with Raza and Ch'od. This group is now the new Starjammers and have made it their mission to hunt down and kill Vulcan. Meanwhile, Hepzibah is stranded on Earth with the x-crew.

Ah..... cool. I'm good with that. Looks like Bru didn't have to compress the story too much at the end there.

I'd probably give the series a 5.8/10 as a whole, before reading the last issue.

[bairdduvessa]

Aghhh..... Storm sucks now. And I've been extremely disappointed by Uncanny, especially since Bru is one of my top 3 favorite writers working today. I'm trade-waiting from now on.

this arc would be way better in trade

[The Jack Rabbitt]

skunk lady, you mean.

eh, whatever. ;-)

[The Jack Rabbitt]

this arc would be way better in trade

I really should bust out all twelve and read 'em back-to-back

[Matt O.]

I really should bust out all twelve and read 'em back-to-back

Or you can buy the oversized hardcover:D

[bairdduvessa]

Ah..... cool. I'm good with that. Looks like Bru didn't have to compress the story too much at the end there.
i'm leaning to a 6-6.5
I'd probably give the series a 5.8/10 as a whole, before reading the last issue.

I really should bust out all twelve and read 'em back-to-back

let me know!

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Or you can buy the oversized hardcover:D

Fuck that. I have the issues already.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

let me know!

Aye aye, captain!

[bairdduvessa]

Aye aye, captain!

that's more like it maggot!

[The Jack Rabbitt]

that's more like it maggot!

poor poor Maggott

[Matt O.]

Fuck that. I have the issues already.

But..... it reads better that way:(

[bairdduvessa]

poor poor Maggott

heh, heh he's all gasy

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Google Guggenheim. I can't remember where or when but I swear he said he had another Wolverine arc coming up, maybe after whoever is next. Me? I won't read anotehr Wolverine series unless they bring back Madripoor and Patch...

Oh, and the Cable and Deadpool was a good deal of fun and I probably will read it from now on.

[bairdduvessa]

Google Guggenheim. I can't remember where or when but I swear he said he had another Wolverine arc coming up, maybe after whoever is next. Me? I won't read anotehr Wolverine series unless they bring back Madripoor and Patch...

Oh, and the Cable and Deadpool was a good deal of fun and I probably will read it from now on.

!!!!!

[bairdduvessa]

i realised i forgot to review x-factor. 4xs great art, great story Abyss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but no hellen keller jokes. I am pumped. and i mean PUMPED to see this all come to a head and soon

[Foggy's Pal]

i realised i forgot to review x-factor. 4xs great art, great story Abyss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but no hellen keller jokes. I am pumped. and i mean PUMPED to see this all come to a head and soon

The only problem I ever have with X-Factor is the art. It's just not consistent. What is consistent is the great storytelling. This, for me, is the best X book. I'm still calling for a big name artist- won't happen, but I think Gaydos would be appropriate here.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

i realised i forgot to review x-factor. 4xs great art, great story Abyss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but no hellen keller jokes. I am pumped. and i mean PUMPED to see this all come to a head and soon

I was sooo happy to see him show up.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

So is Marrow an ex-Mutant or not? With her visual not altered at all she can't be a flatscan.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

So is Marrow an ex-Mutant or not? With her visual not altered at all she can't be a flatscan.

It would seem that she no longer has her mutant powers.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

But if her x-gene is gone she should look like an ordinary woman. It fels to me that no one at marvel has put any real thought into the effects of de-powering.

[Matt Jay]

But if her x-gene is gone she should look like an ordinary woman. It fels to me that no one at marvel has put any real thought into the effects of de-powering.
If they outline the effects to every detail they limit the present and future creativity of their writers.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

And they open themselves up to people only losing their powers but very clearly being mutants.

Anywho, in the shower I thought up two more ways out: Josh Foley can give people an x-gene or I don't know, the 198 can start breeding like rabbits?

[bairdduvessa]

roman. chaos magic. the results were chaotic. when blob's lost his powers in the past he was instantly thin. this time he has extra skin.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Feels sloppy. Maybe when we have the inevitable X-Book creative team turnover things will get better. I wouldn't mind seeing a whole new team on Adjectiveless X-Men and New Excalibur just cancelled.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Feels sloppy. Maybe when we have the inevitable X-Book creative team turnover things will get better. I wouldn't mind seeing a whole new team on Adjectiveless X-Men and New Excalibur just cancelled.

I hope not. I am loving Carey and Bachalo on X-Men.

[HomerGator]

I hope not. I am loving Carey and Bachalo on X-Men.

Ditto.

Personally, I think between Astonishing X-Men, X-Men, Uncanny X-men, New X-Men, and X-Factor (sorry, Excalibur doesn't count for me), we have a whole lot of really great runs going. I wouldn't mind at all if the creative teams on these books stay for quite a while (although we know Whedon/Cassaday won't be around for a whole lot longer, and X-Factor doesn't have a regular penciller-STILL).

[Matt O.]

Ditto.

Personally, I think between Astonishing X-Men, X-Men, Uncanny X-men, New X-Men, and X-Factor (sorry, Excalibur doesn't count for me), we have a whole lot of really great runs going. I wouldn't mind at all if the creative teams on these books stay for quite a while (although we know Whedon/Cassaday won't be around for a whole lot longer, and X-Factor doesn't have a regular penciller-STILL).

I thought Pablo Raimiondi was the regular penciller, he's just a little slow. I hope so, he gave us by far the best issues of the run.

[HomerGator]

I thought Pablo Raimiondi was the regular penciller, he's just a little slow. I hope so, he gave us by far the best issues of the run.

Well, that's what they said, but then we get Koi Phan (I think that's his name) doing the last few issues.

[lonesomefool]

Ramiondi is still the X-Factor artist, Pham is just doing a fill-in. Ramiondi isnt all that fast, so expect him to be on for 4 or so issues in a row, and then a couple of fill-in's.

Carey is fine on X-Men, but I would like to see a new artist. Bachalo's art is too confusing, there were a lot of panels in the latest X-Men, where honestly, I couldnt tell what was happening.

[Foggy's Pal]

Ramiondi is still the X-Factor artist, Pham is just doing a fill-in. Ramiondi isnt all that fast, so expect him to be on for 4 or so issues in a row, and then a couple of fill-in's.

Carey is fine on X-Men, but I would like to see a new artist. Bachalo's art is too confusing, there were a lot of panels in the latest X-Men, where honestly, I couldnt tell what was happening.

Unfortunately, Raimondi has only done 5 of the 18 issues. the last three have been fill in. Three off is too much.

[lonesomefool]

Unfortunately, Raimondi has only done 5 of the 18 issues. the last three have been fill in. Three off is too much.

Raimiondi wasnt the artist for the first year though, so he actually hasnt been that so far. And three issues off is a bit much, but it wouldnt be so bad if Marvel had chosen a fill-in artist whose style was actually attractive to look at. Pham's artwork looks half done at times.

[HomerGator]

Unfortunately, Raimondi has only done 5 of the 18 issues. the last three have been fill in. Three off is too much.

That's what I'm saying. If you do three issues, then there's fill-ins for the next six, then you do two more, etc, you are NOT the book's 'regular penciller'.

It's amazing to me how few guys there are out there than can draw 11 or 12 issues a year. That's one of the reasons I love guys like Mark Bagley and John Romita JR. Not only are they excellent artists and amazing storytellers (Both of them), but you don't have to wait forever for their books to come out (and their books are always worth the very short wait. Always).

[Matthew Brown]

Claremont's first arc on Exiles just ended.

THOUGHTS? Can no man do wrong with this title?

[bairdduvessa]

Claremont's first arc on Exiles just ended.

THOUGHTS? Can no man do wrong with this title?

not reading it

[HomerGator]

Claremont's first arc on Exiles just ended.

THOUGHTS? Can no man do wrong with this title?

I don't normally read Exiles, but I have to say that the lineup is very intriguing. I love the fact that they're using Spider-Man 2099 (and Longshot!).

Should I be reading it? Or is written in that Claremont style that we all are so damn familiar with?

[Matthew Brown]

I don't normally read Exiles, but I have to say that the lineup is very intriguing. I love the fact that they're using Spider-Man 2099 (and Longshot!).

Should I be reading it? Or is written in that Claremont style that we all are so damn familiar with?

It's actually pretty damn good. He brought his pet character with him, but he seems to be surprisingly comfortable with the rest of the cast, and is crafting fun stories with underlying hints at something bigger with the multiverse.

[lonesomefool]

As long as Claremont is writing the book, I'm not buying. I tried the first issue, and it reminded me of everything I dont like in a Claremont written comic, dialogue was weak, pointless fight scene and just generally too "old fashioned" of a writing style for my tastes. Glad people are enjoying it though.

[MabusRex]

i realised i forgot to review x-factor. 4xs great art, great story Abyss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but no hellen keller jokes. I am pumped. and i mean PUMPED to see this all come to a head and soon

I said it in the review thread, but I'm right there with ya! Wonder if now that Kurt's back on earth, he'll try and find his half-brother.

Just hoping Nils sees he's on the wrong side before it's too late.

[bairdduvessa]

I said it in the review thread, but I'm right there with ya! Wonder if now that Kurt's back on earth, he'll try and find his half-brother.

Just hoping Nils sees he's on the wrong side before it's too late.

me too

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I think Astonishing should end with Whedon leaving the book. Maybe start a volume two if Whedon wants to play in the X-Arena again or if someone of equal status wants an X book. I just can't think of anyone out there I would give the book too. Vaughn maybe but he doesn't to play at Marvel for the time being. Keeping the book going just to keep it going is pointless. If this company delays Civil War because of an incredibly slow artist and won't renew Young Avengers because of its creative team, it'd make sense to end Astonishing with twenty-four.

And Exiles? If you don't like Claremont, don't go anywhere near it. I like the guy's classic style (and oh boy, is this typical Claremont) and even I can barely tolerate this book and New Excalibur.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I don't normally read Exiles, but I have to say that the lineup is very intriguing. I love the fact that they're using Spider-Man 2099 (and Longshot!).


I'm soooooooooooooooooo fucking happy that Spidey 2099 is being used. :boogie:

[Vonn Hennigar]

I went on the reading spree of reading sprees this weekend.

I'm now up to date with Uncanny,X-Men and X-Factor after having not read any of them for close to a years worth of issues.

The verdict?

Uncanny - Solid but padded. The X-Men went most of the series not doing all that much all considered but the last issue really went out with a bang imo and i ended up enjoying it quite a bit. 7.5/10

X-Men - I love the roster and Lady Mastermind could be a X staple character for years after this. But the Children Of The Vault are meh. It's never a good idea to introduce tons of different villains all at once especially when it's thematically similar to the Neo and the Weapon X rejects in Morrisons X-Men run. Plus the stupid flying ship...:nonono2: Still i like how they're handling Sabretooth and i've enjoyed the 2 subsequent 3 part stories with the evil Rogueish villain and the Mummandrai. Just don't kill Rogue or i'll hurt someone 7/10

X-Factor - Orgasmic Bliss. Jamie Madrox & Layla Miller may be my 2 favorite characters right now and i love everything about the book. I'm glad they wrapped up the SI plotline and moved on. The art meanwhile i feel has been really strong despite they're being about 6 of them through 19 issues.
9/10

[bairdduvessa]

I went on the reading spree of reading sprees this weekend.

I'm now up to date with Uncanny,X-Men and X-Factor after having not read any of them for close to a years worth of issues.

The verdict?

Uncanny - Solid but padded. The X-Men went most of the series not doing all that much all considered but the last issue really went out with a bang imo and i ended up enjoying it quite a bit. 7.5/10

X-Men - I love the roster and Lady Mastermind could be a X staple character for years after this. But the Children Of The Vault are meh. It's never a good idea to introduce tons of different villains all at once especially when it's thematically similar to the Neo and the Weapon X rejects in Morrisons X-Men run. Plus the stupid flying ship...:nonono2: Still i like how they're handling Sabretooth and i've enjoyed the 2 subsequent 3 part stories with the evil Rogueish villain and the Mummandrai. Just don't kill Rogue or i'll hurt someone 7/10

X-Factor - Orgasmic Bliss. Jamie Madrox & Layla Miller may be my 2 favorite characters right now and i love everything about the book. I'm glad they wrapped up the SI plotline and moved on. The art meanwhile i feel has been really strong despite they're being about 6 of them through 19 issues.
9/10

did you read the current cable/deadpool? it ties in with x-men quite well

[Matt O.]

I had some issues with the character they killed off in Uncanny. Anyone else feel like there wasn't enough build-up?

[Vonn Hennigar]

did you read the current cable/deadpool? it ties in with x-men quite well

No, i've still only read the 1st trade of Cable/Deadpool (Issue's 1-6). Didn't impress me. It's on my list but way down there.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I had some issues with the character they killed off in Uncanny. Anyone else feel like there wasn't enough build-up?

Nah. It's a strong way to go out (Being killed by your own son) and with his replacements in Havok/Polaris/Rachel temporary or not it still outweighs the negative of him being dead. He showed up once every 2 years for 10 pages anyway so no big deal. Especially if Skunky turns out to be a solid addition to the X-team.

[bairdduvessa]

No, i've still only read the 1st trade of Cable/Deadpool (Issue's 1-6). Didn't impress me. It's on my list but way down there.

:banned:

it gets better after that. WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better.

Hell in HoM the only thing Wade wanted was to use the bathroom

the current issue deals with cable and is actually very good, but not nearly as great as the recent deadpool arc

[Matt O.]

Nah. It's a strong way to go out (Being killed by your own son) and with his replacements in Havok/Polaris/Rachel temporary or not it still outweighs the negative of him being dead. He showed up once every 2 years for 10 pages anyway so no big deal. Especially if Skunky turns out to be a solid addition to the X-team.

I'm just really picky on deaths of supporting characters. I just can't help but feel like killing 30+ year-old characters should be done more sparingly then it has been recently. Also, I respect writers who build up a character before their death. Warpath I would have found less painful, since Bru was the one to make him cool again. Still, I'm excited for the potential story.

[bairdduvessa]

I'm just really picky on deaths of supporting characters. I just can't help but feel like killing 30+ year-old characters should be done more sparingly then it has been recently. Also, I respect writers who build up a character before their death. Warpath I would have found less painful, since Bru was the one to make him cool again. Still, I'm excited for the potential story.

me? i', waiting for the inevitable native american skunk baby

[The Jack Rabbitt]

No, i've still only read the 1st trade of Cable/Deadpool (Issue's 1-6). Didn't impress me. It's on my list but way down there.

The first arc was about the weakest of the series, iirc.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Nah. It's a strong way to go out (Being killed by your own son) and with his replacements in Havok/Polaris/Rachel temporary or not it still outweighs the negative of him being dead. He showed up once every 2 years for 10 pages anyway so no big deal. Especially if Skunky turns out to be a solid addition to the X-team.

Agreed. The death didn't bother me really at all. In short, it worked for me.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I'm just really picky on deaths of supporting characters. I just can't help but feel like killing 30+ year-old characters should be done more sparingly then it has been recently. Also, I respect writers who build up a character before their death. Warpath I would have found less painful, since Bru was the one to make him cool again. Still, I'm excited for the potential story.

I'd've been pissed if they killed Warpath. Warpath's character is far more interesting and is actually going to be used. Corsair rarely shows up, and when he does it is in fairly forgettable stories (for the most part, anyway).

[HomerGator]

I'm soooooooooooooooooo fucking happy that Spidey 2099 is being used. :boogie:

Oh, FUCK yeah.

(I have a really cool picture I was going to post, but for some fucking reason when I click on the "Insert Image", nothing fucking happens.)

Anyone else ever have this problem?

[HomerGator]

Agreed. The death didn't bother me really at all. In short, it worked for me.

Same here. I just wish they'd show Cyclops' reaction. They probably won't, but it's his dad, too, you know.

[joeAR]

Same here. I just wish they'd show Cyclops' reaction. They probably won't, but it's his dad, too, you know.


Speaking of Scott and Corsair, wasn't this the last comic they saw each other in?


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/joeAR1/cyc.gif

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Oh, FUCK yeah.

(I have a really cool picture I was going to post, but for some fucking reason when I click on the "Insert Image", nothing fucking happens.)

Anyone else ever have this problem?

I never use the "insert image". I just manually type in the image tags and I never have any problems.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I'd imagine that we have to see Cyke's reaction at some point. Provided that he makes it back from Breakworld, that is.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I'd imagine that we have to see Cyke's reaction at some point. Provided that he makes it back from Breakworld, that is.

Don't try to fit Astonishing X-Men in the timeline it'll just make your head explode. But reading the arcs they all take place in short amounts of time relatively speaking. I guess we can't say where until the arc is over and someone's dead.

Still hoping Joss doesn't kill anybody actually. Plus am i the only one who noticed the similaritys between Hulk the Worldbreaker of Sakaar and Colossus the worldbreaker of Breakworld?

Strange to have 2 similar yet strange plotlines running so close to each other.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Don't try to fit Astonishing X-Men in the timeline it'll just make your head explode. But reading the arcs they all take place in short amounts of time relatively speaking. I guess we can't say where until the arc is over and someone's dead.

Still hoping Joss doesn't kill anybody actually. Plus am i the only one who noticed the similaritys between Hulk the Worldbreaker of Sakaar and Colossus the worldbreaker of Breakworld?

Strange to have 2 similar yet strange plotlines running so close to each other.

You're not the only one, anymore. I'm surprised I missed that.

And yeah, I don't really suspect anyone to die. But I don't think everyone is coming back, either.

[bairdduvessa]

Speaking of Scott and Corsair, wasn't this the last comic they saw each other in?


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/joeAR1/cyc.gif

i think so

[bairdduvessa]

heh. i only have one comic this week. TOTAL. X-Men 199. See y'all thursday or friday

[The Jack Rabbitt]

heh. i only have one comic this week. TOTAL. X-Men 199. See y'all thursday or friday

Damn.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

It looks like a light week for me too. There are thirteen books coming out I'll buy plus two I forgot from the past two weeks and any that scream out to me from the wall. That's down from the twenty-one I bought last week.

[bairdduvessa]

did anybody read the solicit plots for endangered species?

[Matt O.]

You're not the only one, anymore. I'm surprised I missed that.

And yeah, I don't really suspect anyone to die. But I don't think everyone is coming back, either.

I don't think that it was intentional for WWH and AXM to have similarites, just a strange coincidence.

And my mindset is, that if Joss has a good story to tell, he "earned" a death, so I wouldn't be too mad if he killed someone off.

Looks like it could be Cyclops, from the end of the last issue.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I don't think that it was intentional for WWH and AXM to have similarites, just a strange coincidence.

And my mindset is, that if Joss has a good story to tell, he "earned" a death, so I wouldn't be too mad if he killed someone off.

Looks like it could be Cyclops, from the end of the last issue.

As long as Beast makes it back, I'm a happy camper.

[Matt O.]

As long as Beast makes it back, I'm a happy camper.

I'm the opposite, let him die:twisted:


Henry, Logan, and Emma are safe because of the roles they play in other X-books.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I'm the opposite, let him die:twisted:


Henry, Logan, and Emma are safe because of the roles they play in other X-books.

We know for sure that Emma is safe?

I know the other two are, but I didn't know she was.

[bairdduvessa]

I'm the opposite, let him die:twisted:


Henry, Logan, and Emma are safe because of the roles they play in other X-books.

colossus too

[The Jack Rabbitt]

colossus too

so that narrows it down to Cyke or Kitty?

or that Armor chick, I suppose.

[Matt O.]

colossus too

Wuh? Where's he showing up? I was sure they'd keep his fate up in the air.

[bairdduvessa]

Wuh? Where's he showing up? I was sure they'd keep his fate up in the air.

x-men 202

[HomerGator]

I'd imagine that we have to see Cyke's reaction at some point. Provided that he makes it back from Breakworld, that is.

You would think so, but it seems like any time the last few years that there is a major death in the X-universe, it's pretty much glossed over. We never see any conversations about anything. For instance, the only place we saw anything about people's feelings about Scott making out with one of the X-Men's worst enemies on his wife's grave just after she died, and then shacking up with her in his and Jean's bedroom, was in an issue of X-Men Unlimited in which Havok and Marvel Girl both basically admitted that Scott is a complete and utter douchebag now.

I have a feeling that we've seen all the reactions on Earth we're GOING to see concerning the murder of.....well....you know who. (Can we stop marking spoilers for this? Doesn't everyone know by now?)

[The Jack Rabbitt]

You would think so, but it seems like any time the last few years that there is a major death in the X-universe, it's pretty much glossed over. We never see any conversations about anything. For instance, the only place we saw anything about people's feelings about Scott making out with one of the X-Men's worst enemies on his wife's grave just after she died, and then shacking up with her in his and Jean's bedroom, was in an issue of X-Men Unlimited in which Havok and Marvel Girl both basically admitted that Scott is a complete and utter douchebag now.

I have a feeling that we've seen all the reactions on Earth we're GOING to see concerning the murder of.....well....you know who. (Can we stop marking spoilers for this? Doesn't everyone know by now?)

...I dunno. I'll be angry if they don't address Scott's reaction at some point.

[Matt O.]

We know for sure that Emma is safe?

I know the other two are, but I didn't know she was.

I read that Emma has a big mentoring role in New X-Men.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I read that Emma has a big mentoring role in New X-Men.

yeah, but when? No one has any idea when Astonishing is actually supposed to take place, do they?

[HomerGator]

...I dunno. I'll be angry if they don't address Scott's reaction at some point.

Same here. The main thing I've been missing from the X-books for awhile now is that sense that they're a part of this community. The different teams may be doing completely different things, but every now and then they used to have an issue, or at least part of an issue, where everyone kind of deals with all the shit they've been going through. I always loved those issues, when the X-Men were hanging around the mansion, trying to pretend everything's ok, meanwhile Scott won't leave the Danger Room, Wolverine is out fighting, or drinking, or cutting stuff up (or probably all three), Storm has a heart to heart with Kitty, Bobby and Hank blow off some steam, etc etc.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like when these books just jump from six part story to six part story, they end up bypassing a lot of the things that were always great about the X-Men in the first place.

[HomerGator]

yeah, but when? No one has any idea when Astonishing is actually supposed to take place, do they?

I think Astonishing is one of those stories that we'll have a decent enough idea about when it happens/happened once the whole thing's been told (so after the Annual or Giant-Size issue, I guess).

[Matt O.]

yeah, but when? No one has any idea when Astonishing is actually supposed to take place, do they?

Well, we're assuming that it will fit somewhere in there.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Same here. The main thing I've been missing from the X-books for awhile now is that sense that they're a part of this community. The different teams may be doing completely different things, but every now and then they used to have an issue, or at least part of an issue, where everyone kind of deals with all the shit they've been going through. I always loved those issues, when the X-Men were hanging around the mansion, trying to pretend everything's ok, meanwhile Scott won't leave the Danger Room, Wolverine is out fighting, or drinking, or cutting stuff up (or probably all three), Storm has a heart to heart with Kitty, Bobby and Hank blow off some steam, etc etc.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like when these books just jump from six part story to six part story, they end up bypassing a lot of the things that were always great about the X-Men in the first place.

Agreed. I love the standalone, fallout issues. Both Claremont and Lobdell used to do that quite well and it is something that has been lacking. However, those issues almost always came after very large every-book-encompassing megacrossovers. Perhaps we'll have some good fallout issues after the Endangered Species storyline.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I think Astonishing is one of those stories that we'll have a decent enough idea about when it happens/happened once the whole thing's been told (so after the Annual or Giant-Size issue, I guess).

Well, we're assuming that it will fit somewhere in there.

Well, right. My point was that we don't know where it fits in yet. It could very well happen after the recent issues of NXM that showed Emma still in her "teaching" role.

[Matt O.]

Agreed. I love the standalone, fallout issues. Both Claremont and Lobdell used to do that quite well and it is something that has been lacking. However, those issues almost always came after very large every-book-encompassing megacrossovers. Perhaps we'll have some good fallout issues after the Endangered Species storyline.

Fallout issues are my favorite parts of events. My favorite part of House of M was Generation M, and IMO the best thing to come out of Civil War was The Confession.

[bairdduvessa]

santo has mentioned he doesn't know who colossus is

[HomerGator]

santo has mentioned he doesn't know who colossus is

Which bothered me, considering how he's been in a training exercise with Colossus.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Santo is a bit of an idiot, though.

[bairdduvessa]

Santo is a bit of an idiot, though.

true

[Vonn Hennigar]

Who's Santo, that Grey Thing rip-off?

Still haven't read New X-Men aside from the House Of M tie-in issues. I refuse to start unless i can begin with the New Mutants re-launch which preceded it first.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Who's Santo, that Grey Thing rip-off?

Still haven't read New X-Men aside from the House Of M tie-in issues. I refuse to start unless i can begin with the New Mutants re-launch which preceded it first.

Yep, he's the gray thing. Codename of Rockslide.

[bairdduvessa]

Who's Santo, that Grey Thing rip-off?

Still haven't read New X-Men aside from the House Of M tie-in issues. I refuse to start unless i can begin with the New Mutants re-launch which preceded it first.

Yep, he's the gray thing. Codename of Rockslide.

he no longer looks like jack kirby's thing (ha!) they changed that uber quick post HoM

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

May I just say I really, really hated X-Men 199? So Rogue is now the world's worst sufferer of multiple personality disorder, murderous, and still dying of that plague? She, Cannonball, and Iceman were the only members of this team I liked and with Bobby continuing the X-Men Family's longest string of bad girlfriend choices that's down to Sam now. If I had my way Lady Mastermind and Lady Sentinel would both be gone. Sabretooth now has no reason to be on the team and hasn't since the Children were believed destroyed. If he returns next issue it will be out of character and coming up with a new reason why he needs to join and the team needs to accept him would just be too much. And Cable? Ugh. On a side-note, why is Fabian still with Marvel? Cable/Deadpool is his second book he's had screwed with in the last year because TPTB have decided some other book is more important.
My suggestions for the book beyond a writer with a better idea for it and an artist whose work is easier to follow? I don't know. I'm not a comic professional. I just know what I like and X-Men hasn't been it since Mike Carey took it on. Maybe there are too many X-Books? Cancel Adjectiveless and Astonishing as well as New Excalibur. Let's make do with Uncanny, New X-Men, Exiles, and of course the Wolverine books (economics demands that) until there's actual creative and economic demand. Maybe there wouldn't be X-Books I hate if there were actual reasons for them to exist beyond the fact they have existed. And maybe cancel X-Factor, release the extraneous characters back into the wild, and let PAD have his Madrox solo book since that's mostly what he's been doing anyways.

And if Adjectiveless continues, here's my perfect line up: Archangel, Aurora, Cannonball, Diamond Lil, Iceman, Madison Jeffries, Northstar, and Wolfsbane. I don't think I'll ever see this team but Aurora and Northstar would be an amazing addition to this team. Alpha Flight writers, even John Byrne, failed to see the devastating potential of two super speedsters on one team. Take any big battle any X-Team has been in over the years and imagine adding the twins. Plus, this is the new millenium and maybe we can get a scene finally of Aurora and Northstar hitting a bar together or fighting over the same guy. Iceman would be perfect...

[Matt O.]

May I just say I really, really hated X-Men 199? So Rogue is now the world's worst sufferer of multiple personality disorder, murderous, and still dying of that plague? She, Cannonball, and Iceman were the only members of this team I liked and with Bobby continuing the X-Men Family's longest string of bad girlfriend choices that's down to Sam now. If I had my way Lady Mastermind and Lady Sentinel would both be gone. Sabretooth now has no reason to be on the team and hasn't since the Children were believed destroyed. If he returns next issue it will be out of character and coming up with a new reason why he needs to join and the team needs to accept him would just be too much. And Cable? Ugh. On a side-note, why is Fabian still with Marvel? Cable/Deadpool is his second book he's had screwed with in the last year because TPTB have decided some other book is more important.
My suggestions for the book beyond a writer with a better idea for it and an artist whose work is easier to follow? I don't know. I'm not a comic professional. I just know what I like and X-Men hasn't been it since Mike Carey took it on. Maybe there are too many X-Books? Cancel Adjectiveless and Astonishing as well as New Excalibur. Let's make do with Uncanny, New X-Men, Exiles, and of course the Wolverine books (economics demands that) until there's actual creative and economic demand. Maybe there wouldn't be X-Books I hate if there were actual reasons for them to exist beyond the fact they have existed. And maybe cancel X-Factor, release the extraneous characters back into the wild, and let PAD have his Madrox solo book since that's mostly what he's been doing anyways.

And if Adjectiveless continues, here's my perfect line up: Archangel, Aurora, Cannonball, Diamond Lil, Iceman, Madison Jeffries, Northstar, and Wolfsbane. I don't think I'll ever see this team but Aurora and Northstar would be an amazing addition to this team. Alpha Flight writers, even John Byrne, failed to see the devastating potential of two super speedsters on one team. Take any big battle any X-Team has been in over the years and imagine adding the twins. Plus, this is the new millenium and maybe we can get a scene finally of Aurora and Northstar hitting a bar together or fighting over the same guy. Iceman would be perfect...

Northstar is dead.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Northstar is dead.

Not anymore.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Northstar is dead.

Not funny.

[lonesomefool]

I am fine with Carey, I mean realistically, his run IMO is ten times better than anything Milligan could have been kicking out. I do agree the book needs a new artist though, honestly if Ramos and Bachalo decided to stop drawing one day, I wouldnt shed a single tear.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Well, I like what Carey is doing and I'm an old-school Bachalo fan. In short, I really dig adjectiveless right now. But thats just this fan's opinion. ;-)

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I am fine with Carey, I mean realistically, his run IMO is ten times better than anything Milligan could have been kicking out. I do agree the book needs a new artist though, honestly if Ramos and Bachalo decided to stop drawing one day, I wouldnt shed a single tear.

Okay, you got me there. If the choice were only those two writers, I would pick Carey in a New York second. Which is weird because after Enigma I thought Milligan could do no wrong but yes, Milligan was one of the three worst X-writers ever.

[Matt O.]

Not anymore.

Wuh? Since when? Who would ever come up with a story that dictated he come back?

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Wuh? Since when? Who would ever come up with a story that dictated he come back?

Read the newest X-Men Annual.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Read the newest X-Men Annual.

That took place after his resurrection in the first/second? issue of the current Carey/Bachalo run.

Did anyone take a close look at the next issue blurb at the back of X-Men #199?

It had the David Finch cover of course but also 2 variants featuring the X-Men vs The Marauders!

But the real exciting thing is who's part of the Marauders... Gambit,Sunfire,Exodus,Random,Vertigo,Scalphunter and friends including Lady Mastermind??? Noooooooo :cry:

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

That took place after his resurrection in the first/second? issue of the current Carey/Bachalo run.

Did anyone take a close look at the next issue blurb at the back of X-Men #199?

It had the David Finch cover of course but also 2 variants featuring the X-Men vs The Marauders!

But the real exciting thing is who's part of the Marauders... Gambit,Sunfire,Exodus,Random,Vertigo,Scalphunter and friends including Lady Mastermind??? Noooooooo :cry:

...and the first part of my wish list comes true...

[Matt O.]

Read the newest X-Men Annual.

Reading that in the oversized hardcover.

[youdontknowme]

imo x men is the best its been in yrs

but i dont really like ramos for x men

howabout they switch between bachelo and joemad

[HomerGator]

May I just say I really, really hated X-Men 199? So Rogue is now the world's worst sufferer of multiple personality disorder, murderous, and still dying of that plague? She, Cannonball, and Iceman were the only members of this team I liked and with Bobby continuing the X-Men Family's longest string of bad girlfriend choices that's down to Sam now. If I had my way Lady Mastermind and Lady Sentinel would both be gone. Sabretooth now has no reason to be on the team and hasn't since the Children were believed destroyed. If he returns next issue it will be out of character and coming up with a new reason why he needs to join and the team needs to accept him would just be too much. And Cable? Ugh. On a side-note, why is Fabian still with Marvel? Cable/Deadpool is his second book he's had screwed with in the last year because TPTB have decided some other book is more important.
My suggestions for the book beyond a writer with a better idea for it and an artist whose work is easier to follow? I don't know. I'm not a comic professional. I just know what I like and X-Men hasn't been it since Mike Carey took it on. Maybe there are too many X-Books? Cancel Adjectiveless and Astonishing as well as New Excalibur. Let's make do with Uncanny, New X-Men, Exiles, and of course the Wolverine books (economics demands that) until there's actual creative and economic demand. Maybe there wouldn't be X-Books I hate if there were actual reasons for them to exist beyond the fact they have existed. And maybe cancel X-Factor, release the extraneous characters back into the wild, and let PAD have his Madrox solo book since that's mostly what he's been doing anyways.

And if Adjectiveless continues, here's my perfect line up: Archangel, Aurora, Cannonball, Diamond Lil, Iceman, Madison Jeffries, Northstar, and Wolfsbane. I don't think I'll ever see this team but Aurora and Northstar would be an amazing addition to this team. Alpha Flight writers, even John Byrne, failed to see the devastating potential of two super speedsters on one team. Take any big battle any X-Team has been in over the years and imagine adding the twins. Plus, this is the new millenium and maybe we can get a scene finally of Aurora and Northstar hitting a bar together or fighting over the same guy. Iceman would be perfect...

By wanting Diamond Lil and Madison Jeffries on the X-Men, as well as wanting Wolfsbane somewhere other than the excellent X-Factor, any points you had are now moot.

Sorry, dem's de breaks.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

By wanting Diamond Lil and Madison Jeffries on the X-Men, as well as wanting Wolfsbane somewhere other than the excellent X-Factor, any points you had are now moot.

Sorry, dem's de breaks.

Ding. I agree.

[HomerGator]

imo x men is the best its been in yrs

but i dont really like ramos for x men

howabout they switch between bachelo and joemad

Um... Joe Mad is a bit busy, doing Ultimates 3.

[bairdduvessa]

x-men 199-was quick, enjoyable and fun. and you didn't need to read c/d. i really love what carey is doing especially the changes ands possible betrayals.

i am however slighly bummed that cable has again lost his powers but what he is doing with rogue seems like it will be quite kick ass

again the art hurts the story, but not by much this time 3.87 x's

[bairdduvessa]

I am fine with Carey, I mean realistically, his run IMO is ten times better than anything Milligan could have been kicking out. I do agree the book needs a new artist though, honestly if Ramos and Bachalo decided to stop drawing one day, I wouldnt shed a single tear.

agreed

[Vonn Hennigar]

What are Cable's powers anyway?

My mind is still stuck in 1992 when all he did was shoot guns and move tools with his TK.

I know he eventually reached his potential "Stryfe" style level but that was a bit much for him so they toned it down but as of now i have no clue what's going on with him.

[bairdduvessa]

What are Cable's powers anyway?

My mind is still stuck in 1992 when all he did was shoot guns and move tools with his TK.

I know he eventually reached his potential "Stryfe" style level but that was a bit much for him so they toned it down but as of now i have no clue what's going on with him.

he was a telepath/tk user who's powers were weakened because he was constantly trying to hold back the to virus. when the virus died his powers went off the charts. he began to burn himself out ala nate grey and decided to do the whole "messiah thing" in c/d

[Vonn Hennigar]

What's the story with that stupid Spear i saw Cable hauling around for a while.

:nonono2:

[bairdduvessa]

What's the story with that stupid Spear i saw Cable hauling around for a while.

:nonono2:

it amplified his tk

[Vonn Hennigar]

it amplified his tk

So it was a ... Magical Spear?

:surrend:

[bairdduvessa]

So it was a ... Magical Spear?

:surrend:

lol a futuristic weapon created by that mole looking dude

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

By wanting Diamond Lil and Madison Jeffries on the X-Men, as well as wanting Wolfsbane somewhere other than the excellent X-Factor, any points you had are now moot.

Sorry, dem's de breaks.

What seriously does Rahne bring to the table in X-Factor? 'Grr, I'm feral girl sometimes and feel guilty about it the rest of the time and a prophecy says I will kill!' Please. Nothing new is being said with her so cut her loose. I'd rather have her in limbo than reduced to filler. Plus, I will scream if I see her drawn one more time with a wolf's head photo shopped in on a crude female form!

and what's wrong with Lil and Madison? If we can ignore that awful series that allegedly killed Maggot, they were wonderful in the last true Alpha Flight series. Stand up guy married to a woman more prone to doing the wrong thing? Sounds like Emma and Scott but it was done by them first.

[bairdduvessa]

What seriously does Rahne bring to the table in X-Factor? 'Grr, I'm feral girl sometimes and feel guilty about it the rest of the time and a prophecy says I will kill!' Please. Nothing new is being said with her so cut her loose. I'd rather have her in limbo than reduced to filler. Plus, I will scream if I see her drawn one more time with a wolf's head photo shopped in on a crude female form!

and what's wrong with Lil and Madison? If we can ignore that awful series that allegedly killed Maggot, they were wonderful in the last true Alpha Flight series. Stand up guy married to a woman more prone to doing the wrong thing? Sounds like Emma and Scott but it was done by them first.

Rahne brings the "kid sister" role to the series. a voice of reason against madrox (and guido's) off beat personalities. i love where she is.

maddison jeffrie's is being brain washed by concold. again that is perfect gor him, because he is tragic.

[youdontknowme]

Um... Joe Mad is a bit busy, doing Ultimates 3.

true but think of how much more marvel could sell by having joe mad back on the characters he got started on

[NickT]

X-Men 199 was good.


Wisdom 6 was a great end to a great mini.

"Oh, fantastic. We've got an army made up of fairies and Beatles and we're fighting H.G. Wells' Martians and bloody Jack the Rippers. Who's next? Dick Van Dyke? Mr. Bean? John Cleese and his dead Parrot?" :lol:

[bairdduvessa]

X-Men 199 was good.


Wisdom 6 was a great end to a great mini.

"Oh, fantastic. We've got an army made up of fairies and Beatles and we're fighting H.G. Wells' Martians and bloody Jack the Rippers. Who's next? Dick Van Dyke? Mr. Bean? John Cleese and his dead Parrot?" :lol:

i only read the firs issue and wasn't impressed. i may pick up the trade though

[Kefky]

i only read the firs issue and wasn't impressed. i may pick up the trade though

It got MUCH better as it went along.

[bairdduvessa]

It got MUCH better as it went along.

sweet. i look forward to it then.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Wisdom was such a good mini. Its too bad it was passed up by almost everybody. I look forward to reading the final ish.

[Vonn Hennigar]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Vonn_Hennigar/x-men-endangered-species-2007051802.jpg


:twisted:

[NickT]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Vonn_Hennigar/x-men-endangered-species-2007051802.jpg


:twisted:
That was a brilliant April fools joke to play on Logan.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

They're killing Storm? :boogie:

A man can dream, right?

[Kefky]

A man can dream, right?

TWO men can dream together! We'll make it happen through sheer force of will! :thumb:

[Vonn Hennigar]

Uh you did notice the Kitty Pryde,Hank McCoy,Scott Summers tombstones too right :)

Plus Wolverine's looking pretty old in that picture too.

[HomerGator]

true but think of how much more marvel could sell by having joe mad back on the characters he got started on

I'd much rather see him try something new than go back to the X-Men. There are too many great artists out there waiting their turn on the characters to keep giving the gig to people who have been there, done that.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

TWO men can dream together! We'll make it happen through sheer force of will! :thumb:

:thumb:

Uh you did notice the Kitty Pryde,Hank McCoy,Scott Summers tombstones too right :)

Plus Wolverine's looking pretty old in that picture too.

Shhh. Quiet with your logic!

[bairdduvessa]

damn you guys had my hopes up for a dead weather mutant

[The Jack Rabbitt]

damn you guys had my hopes up for a dead weather mutant

Have faith. It could still happen!

[Vonn Hennigar]

I'd rather it be Black Panther dying to save his wife.

This recent FF arc just has me convinced T'Challa's just not a Marvel character. In fact i'd say he's the most DC character Marvel has.

Kill em and replace him with a new warrior from Wakanda.

It'll never happen but to me T'Challa = Snoozeville.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I say give Black Panther back to Priest. His BP series was the shit.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I say give Black Panther back to Priest. His BP series was the shit.

This sounds like the a-typical internet response.

I'd say the odds of you actually having read Black Panther as being no better than 50/50.

Unless everyone who actually was reading Priests BP is coincidentally also a comic book message poster.

[bairdduvessa]

This sounds like the a-typical internet response.

I'd say the odds of you actually having read Black Panther as being no better than 50/50.

Unless everyone who actually was reading Priests BP is coincidentally also a comic book message poster.

i didn't read priest's run!

[Vonn Hennigar]

i didn't read priest's run!

I read the first trade and it was fine. Mark Texiera always kicks ass but i'm not dying to track the rest of it down.

I just don't think he's a very intriguing character to support an long-term ongoing comic.

See also Aquaman.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

This sounds like the a-typical internet response.

I'd say the odds of you actually having read Black Panther as being no better than 50/50.

Unless everyone who actually was reading Priests BP is coincidentally also a comic book message poster.

Yawn. Whatever, dude. You should know me well enough by now to know that I'm not talking out of my ass. I read the whole damn run while it was published.

[bairdduvessa]

How Were Priest's Deadpool Issue?

[The Jack Rabbitt]

How Were Priest's Deadpool Issue?

eh, iirc, they weren't all that great. Its been awhile since I read them, though.

[bairdduvessa]

eh, iirc, they weren't all that great. Its been awhile since I read them, though.

bummer

[Matt O.]

Preview of X-Men #200


http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=114105

[Vonn Hennigar]

Looking good but i'll send Marvel $ 1.32 if they can tell someone to stop drawing Iceman like a 14 year old twat.

Spiked Hair = :nonono2:

[bairdduvessa]

Preview of X-Men #200


http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=114105

:thumb:

[bairdduvessa]

just read funeral for a freak and the dd/dp annual.

funeral was decent, definitely not the best dp story ever. in fact a lot of it was weak. But it led us to Gail's historic run.
3 x's

the annual. Is it sad that i thought the best part was weasel and foggy comparing super hero best buds? And Mr. Hammer trying to trade...?
3.10 x's

[HomerGator]

Man, I really don't like Ramos on X-Men.

[Kefky]

Meh, I'm a kinda pissed two people are drawing it. Multiple artists\inkers have been a curse for the x line in the last two decades.

[Johnny C. TheLastHorseman]

Man, I really don't like Ramos on X-Men.

That's ok, I really, really do. I'll take him on this book over Bachalo any day. And I say that as a pretty big Bachalo fan.

[Kefky]

That's ok, I really, really do. I'll take him on this book over Bachalo any day. And I say that as a pretty big Bachalo fan.

Why are you saying it's okay? 'Cause you're making for his dislike with your like? :lol:

[Johnny C. TheLastHorseman]

Because I'm cool with differing opinions. It's ok that he doesn't like Ramos' X-Men, that's cool. I, on the other hand, love his X-Men.

[HomerGator]

Because I'm cool with differing opinions. It's ok that he doesn't like Ramos' X-Men, that's cool. I, on the other hand, love his X-Men.

Exactly. I'll still buy the X-Men issues that Ramos does, because I really like Mike Carey's writing and I really like the characters.

I really like Bachalo, but I think this book needs a regular artist that doesn't have the anime/manga influence.

I'm sure there are people that feel pretty much the exact opposite, and that's cool, too.

[HomerGator]

X-Bump!

[Vonn Hennigar]

Layla Miller

Will her powers/motivations ever be explained?

Should they?

Also Rictor. Gay for Pietro or just good pals?

[bairdduvessa]

Layla Miller

Will her powers/motivations ever be explained?

Should they?

Also Rictor. Gay for Pietro or just good pals?

layla is pietro's daughter from the future

[Foggy's Pal]

Layla Miller

Will her powers/motivations ever be explained?

Should they?

Also Rictor. Gay for Pietro or just good pals?

Layla needs to remain a mystery. That's what makes her so fun. When she throws that shit like marrying Jamie- priceless. Rictor is a bitch- nuff said.

[HomerGator]

Layla Miller

Will her powers/motivations ever be explained?

Should they?

Also Rictor. Gay for Pietro or just good pals?

Concerning Layla, I think less is more, at least for the time being. Somewhere down the road, I'm sure we'll get a lot more backstory and explanations for how her powers work, etc.

Rictor's not gay, but I wouldn't say his tastes were exactly "normal". Consider he used to hook up with Wolfsbane on the regular, and you'll see what I mean.