The Official X-Men & Friends Thread!

[Matt O.]

Is the Shadow King still trapped on the psychic plane?

I loved that guy, kick-ass villain with unlimited potential.

He was in that "Dark X-Men" arc:?

That's when I took a break from the X-Men

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

He was in that "Dark X-Men" arc:?

That's when I took a break from the X-Men

Oh yeah. Thats about when I dropped New Excalibur.
Anyone know what the resolution of that story was?

[bairdduvessa]

Oh yeah. Thats about when I dropped New Excalibur.
Anyone know what the resolution of that story was?

it wasn't. it is supposed to continue on soon

[Matt O.]

Oh yeah. Thats about when I dropped New Excalibur.
Anyone know what the resolution of that story was?

Yeah, Chris Claremont was no longer allowed to write anything canon:razz:

[Vonn Hennigar]

He was in that "Dark X-Men" arc:?

That's when I took a break from the X-Men

Ah, i haven't read that New Excalibur story yet, the 2nd tpb just came out on Wednesday but i'm too damn poor at the moment. :sad:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

it wasn't. it is supposed to continue on soon

Ah, gotcha. Thanks.

[Matt O.]

Ah, i haven't read that New Excalibur story yet, the 2nd tpb just came out on Wednesday but i'm too damn poor at the moment. :sad:

Dude, save your money:no:

[Supajoe]

Dude, save your money:no:

http://www.bjacked.net/LuvToHunt/forums/phpBB2/modules/gallery/albums/album01/Beat_Dead_Horse.jpg

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Is the Shadow King still trapped on the psychic plane?

I loved that guy, kick-ass villain with unlimited potential.

Last we saw Shadow King he was getting Psylocke's psychic katana right in his head (or whoever's head he was in) as she disappeared from the 616. Shadow KIng should be retired for long enough for the bad taste of that story to be forgotten. It was so bad I didn't even remember exactly how he was defeated without looking for the issue on the spinner.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Since the X-Men are already de facto registered, that does officially put them under the purview of The Initiative, right? We'll have to assume that would make Reyes their Initiative liaison. Now what I'd like to see is The Initiative come to an X-Men team with a mutant-centric mission. Hell, what I'd like even more is to see Astonishing X-Men be revamped to BE The Initiative based team of X-Men. Now that would be cool!

[bairdduvessa]

Since the X-Men are already de facto registered, that does officially put them under the purview of The Initiative, right? We'll have to assume that would make Reyes their Initiative liaison. Now what I'd like to see is The Initiative come to an X-Men team with a mutant-centric mission. Hell, what I'd like even more is to see Astonishing X-Men be revamped to BE The Initiative based team of X-Men. Now that would be cool!

they are registered but i don't think the gov't can make them do anything

[Vonn Hennigar]

X-Books Sales For February 2007

5 143.97 ASTONISHING X-MEN #20 $2.99 MAR
6 116.85 WOLVERINE #51* $2.99 MAR
17 99.81 UNCANNY X-MEN #483 $2.99 MAR
18 94.87 WOLVERINE ORIGINS #11 $2.99 MAR
19 91.03 X-MEN #196 $2.99 MAR
22 78.84 X-MEN ANNUAL #1 $3.99 MAR
24 77.39 ULTIMATE X-MEN #79 $2.99 MAR
44 53.60 X-MEN PHOENIX WARSONG #5 (Of 5) $2.99 MAR
45 50.66 X-23 TARGET X #3 (Of 6) $2.99 MAR
47 45.98 X-FACTOR #16 $2.99 MAR
49 44.66 NEW X-MEN #35 $2.99 MAR
63 38.13 EXILES #91 $2.99 MAR
67 36.50 NEW EXCALIBUR #16 $2.99 MAR
68 36.16 NEW EXCALIBUR #17 $2.99 MAR
73 31.97 CABLE DEADPOOL #37 $2.99 MAR
80 30.21 X-MEN FIRST CLASS #6 (Of 8 ) $2.99 MAR

[Matt O.]

X-Books Sales For February 2007

5 143.97 ASTONISHING X-MEN #20 $2.99 MAR
6 116.85 WOLVERINE #51* $2.99 MAR
17 99.81 UNCANNY X-MEN #483 $2.99 MAR
18 94.87 WOLVERINE ORIGINS #11 $2.99 MAR
19 91.03 X-MEN #196 $2.99 MAR
22 78.84 X-MEN ANNUAL #1 $3.99 MAR
24 77.39 ULTIMATE X-MEN #79 $2.99 MAR
44 53.60 X-MEN PHOENIX WARSONG #5 (Of 5) $2.99 MAR
45 50.66 X-23 TARGET X #3 (Of 6) $2.99 MAR
47 45.98 X-FACTOR #16 $2.99 MAR
49 44.66 NEW X-MEN #35 $2.99 MAR
63 38.13 EXILES #91 $2.99 MAR
67 36.50 NEW EXCALIBUR #16 $2.99 MAR
68 36.16 NEW EXCALIBUR #17 $2.99 MAR
73 31.97 CABLE DEADPOOL #37 $2.99 MAR
80 30.21 X-MEN FIRST CLASS #6 (Of 8 ) $2.99 MAR

Disappointing that Wolverine sells 2.5 times more than X-Factor:(

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Disappointing that Wolverine sells 2.5 times more than X-Factor:(

I could not agree more.

[bairdduvessa]

woot c/d made a comeback!

[Matt O.]

I could not agree more.

Nothing but Hulk is as good as X-Factor when it comes to David's work. It's improved so much since Pablo Raimiondi joined. The issue when Jamie met his priest duplicate was the best of the month for me.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

they are registered but i don't think the gov't can make them do anything

Tell that to SHIELD draftees, She-Hulk and Wonder Man.

And should Bishop be officially drummed out? I think so. He went against the group consensus willfully and should feel the consequences. Maybe he should be shipped off to The Initiative training gulag...

[bairdduvessa]

Tell that to SHIELD draftees, She-Hulk and Wonder Man.

And should Bishop be officially drummed out? I think so. He went against the group consensus willfully and should feel the consequences. Maybe he should be shipped off to The Initiative training gulag...

bishop now is an agent of one. i think the gov't would like to do everything in their power to not rely on mutants for anything.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Which makes zero sense to me. You have a resource here and one that's had its own training center, Xavier's Institute, that has been doing for some time what The Initiative puports to be all about. You'd think Stark would cherry pick some of the teachers at least or maybe send some of the super powered kids to be tutored alongside the New X-Men at least.

[Matt O.]

Which makes zero sense to me. You have a resource here and one that's had its own training center, Xavier's Institute, that has been doing for some time what The Initiative puports to be all about. You'd think Stark would cherry pick some of the teachers at least or maybe send some of the super powered kids to be tutored alongside the New X-Men at least.

Too many ethical issues are involved. It's smartest for government to avoid mutants at all cost.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Which makes zero sense to me. You have a resource here and one that's had its own training center, Xavier's Institute, that has been doing for some time what The Initiative puports to be all about. You'd think Stark would cherry pick some of the teachers at least or maybe send some of the super powered kids to be tutored alongside the New X-Men at least.

Why would Tony entrust kids to Xavier when he knows ol Chuck is the master of turning kids to his side? He's basically an uber cult leader without any of the bad stuff.

They're going to train these kids themselves with 100% govt supervision, letting them go to Westchester would be a major mistake on his part.

[YouStayClassy]

So how do the X-Men fit into the post Civil War world, registration wise? Like is Wolverine a wanted felon now since he pals around with the Avengers? But that can't be, or else She Hulk would have arrested him when he was in her post Civil War book.... arhg! So confusing!

[bairdduvessa]

So how do the X-Men fit into the post Civil War world, registration wise? Like is Wolverine a wanted felon now since he pals around with the Avengers? But that can't be, or else She Hulk would have arrested him when he was in her post Civil War book.... arhg! So confusing!

somebody in the civil war thread mentioned that wolverine knows where the bodies are, so the gov't is just letting him run around like always

[YouStayClassy]

somebody in the civil war thread mentioned that wolverine knows where the bodies are, so the gov't is just letting him run around like always

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice. That is a completely satisfactory explanation!

[bairdduvessa]

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice. That is a completely satisfactory explanation!

i thought so.

dude how did your comp die?

[YouStayClassy]

i thought so.

dude how did your comp die?

First the mouse and keyboard ports completely quit working, and then the fan overheated and melted part of my motherboard. It was NUTS, and one of those things that could only happen to me.

I did rip my hard drive out of there, so I'm praying someday I'll be able to salvage those contents....

[Matt O.]

First the mouse and keyboard ports completely quit working, and then the fan overheated and melted part of my motherboard. It was NUTS, and one of those things that could only happen to me.

I did rip my hard drive out of there, so I'm praying someday I'll be able to salvage those contents....

That sucks, man.

What was on the hard drive?

[bairdduvessa]

First the mouse and keyboard ports completely quit working, and then the fan overheated and melted part of my motherboard. It was NUTS, and one of those things that could only happen to me.

I did rip my hard drive out of there, so I'm praying someday I'll be able to salvage those contents....

ok. so our crashes weren't connected

[YouStayClassy]

That sucks, man.

What was on the hard drive?

90 gigs of MP3s in addition all of my stories and art, videos.... basically my whole dang'd life... :(

[bairdduvessa]

90 gigs of MP3s in addition all of my stories and art, videos.... basically my whole dang'd life... :(

i know what that's like now :-(

i blame the phalanx

[Matt O.]

90 gigs of MP3s in addition all of my stories and art, videos.... basically my whole dang'd life... :(

I thought this board was your life:razz:


Was any of it backed up?

[bairdduvessa]

night kiddos

[Matt O.]

night kiddos

:?

It's 11:00 AM:)

[bairdduvessa]

:?

It's 11:00 AM:)

3rd shift

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Ah, i missed Classy...

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

ok. so our crashes weren't connected

BUt he has the possibility of salvaging files. :-D

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

night kiddos

Morning

[Matt O.]

Semi-Spoilers for the Shiar arc of Uncanny X-Men from June solicits

Preview of #487:
UNCANNY X-MEN #487
Written by ED BRUBAKER
Pencils and Cover by SALVADOR LARROCA
THE EXTREMISTS Part 1 (of 5)!
The X-Men are back from space! Well, half of them, anyway. The team is shattered, broken and separated. The group that has returned to earth is finding it much worse than how they left it-- especially underground. Attacks in the Morlock Tunnels immediately grab the X-Men’s attention. What do these attacks have to do with the future of the mutant race? Maybe special guest-star Storm can get to the bottom of all this!
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99


So who do you guys think isn't returning? I heard Nightcrawler is involved in the next arc, which I'm extremely happy about, him being my favorite X-Man.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Semi-Spoilers for the Shiar arc of Uncanny X-Men from June solicits

Preview of #487:
UNCANNY X-MEN #487
Written by ED BRUBAKER
Pencils and Cover by SALVADOR LARROCA
THE EXTREMISTS Part 1 (of 5)!
The X-Men are back from space! Well, half of them, anyway. The team is shattered, broken and separated. The group that has returned to earth is finding it much worse than how they left it-- especially underground. Attacks in the Morlock Tunnels immediately grab the X-Men’s attention. What do these attacks have to do with the future of the mutant race? Maybe special guest-star Storm can get to the bottom of all this!
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99


So who do you guys think isn't returning? I heard Nightcrawler is involved in the next arc, which I'm extremely happy about, him being my favorite X-Man.

Well, we know Xavier is returning. I'm guessing Darwin is coming back, since it is one of Bru's new characters. I would guess that Rachel is staying in space with Korvus. And I wouldn't be surprised if Havok (and maybe Polaris) stayed as well, perhaps to help out Daddy Summers with the Starjammers. I do want Nightcrawler and Warpath to return.

[Matt O.]

Well, we know Xavier is returning. I'm guessing Darwin is coming back, since it is one of Bru's new characters. I would guess that Rachel is staying in space with Korvus. And I wouldn't be surprised if Havok (and maybe Polaris) stayed as well, perhaps to help out Daddy Summers with the Starjammers. I do want Nightcrawler and Warpath to return.

Xavier and Nightcrawler are the only certainties. I wouldn't be suprised if they killed Warpath off after making him one of the coolest 'new" X-men in years. Darwin's fate is a toss-up, Bru already killed all of the other awsome characters from X-Men 1.5 from Deadly Genesis.

[bairdduvessa]

BUt he has the possibility of salvaging files. :-D
hush you

[bairdduvessa]

i'm pretty sure we know that chuck, kurt and warpath are returning. i think bru has said has much.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

i'm pretty sure we know that chuck, kurt and warpath are returning. i think bru has said has much.

Sweet. I'm stickin with my theory, then.

[bairdduvessa]

Sweet. I'm stickin with my theory, then.

the again i haven't slept in a week

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

the again i haven't slept in a week

And I'm on medication.

[bairdduvessa]

And I'm on medication.

what a fine pair of posters we are

[bairdduvessa]

x-factor question. I've been rereading X-Factor Visionaries Peter David Volume 1. There seems to be a reoccuring character a scientist (of either asian or african desent). He is seen building an exosuit throuh several of the issues, only to screw up in some way.

Did anything ever happen with him?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

what a fine pair of posters we are

Indeed.

I feel sorry for the poor souls that actually read the majority of our posts.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

x-factor question. I've been rereading X-Factor Visionaries Peter David Volume 1. There seems to be a reoccuring character a scientist (of either asian or african desent). He is seen building an exosuit throuh several of the issues, only to screw up in some way.

Did anything ever happen with him?

Hmm. That sounds very familiar, but I really can't remember what happens. Sorry, dude.

[bairdduvessa]

Hmm. That sounds very familiar, but I really can't remember what happens. Sorry, dude.
to uncannyxmen.net i go!

[bairdduvessa]

...or not, the page seems to be down

[Ryan F]

x-factor question. I've been rereading X-Factor Visionaries Peter David Volume 1. There seems to be a reoccuring character a scientist (of either asian or african desent). He is seen building an exosuit throuh several of the issues, only to screw up in some way.

Did anything ever happen with him?

Mostly just a running gag.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/chalkervicxfactor.htm

[bairdduvessa]

Mostly just a running gag.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/chalkervicxfactor.htm

that is just classic

[Vonn Hennigar]

Apparantly the next few New X-Men issues are going to form one big image...

So uh here it is!

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Vonn_Hennigar/blogNXM2Bquad2Bcover.jpg

[bairdduvessa]

Apparantly the next few New X-Men issues are going to form one big image...

So uh here it is!

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Vonn_Hennigar/blogNXM2Bquad2Bcover.jpg

now that's the type of gimick i can get behind! i wonder if the alternate cover for x-men 200 can match up to this

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

The last one there looks awesome.

Bring back the darkchilde!

[bairdduvessa]

uncannyxmen.net interwiew with mike carey
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/article/showquestion.asp?faq=12&fldAuto=323


what's his personal web site?

[Vonn Hennigar]

Mike Carey - "The X-Men will be facing off against the Marauders"

:ecstatic:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Mike Carey - "The X-Men will be facing off against the Marauders"

:ecstatic:

:rock:

[bairdduvessa]

'm stoked for everything in there...except husk. i hope that hussy dies

[Ryan F]

Mike Carey - "The X-Men will be facing off against the Marauders"

:ecstatic:

Yeah, that's great. By far the most under-rated x-villains. They kicked the X-Men's asses several times and went on a genocidal tear. Having Sabretooth on the X-Men for the fight will be good too.

[Kefky]

This week's x-men was fucking excellent. Wonderful character work, the return of a Morrison story element, and top-notch Bachalo art. Couldn't be happier.

X-factor was great too, but I really, REALLY hope Ramiondi's coming back. :cry:

[bairdduvessa]

Cable/Deadpool 38-4 x's. Dun Issue featuring none other than agent x!
alex has been hired to steal a device from Hydra one that can cure any disease or make a new one. After decimating the Hydra base he finds the machine only it's too big too move. While bs'ing with the hydra agents he doesn't realize that they used the machine on him. Giving him crippling arthritis. We cut to three weeks later where we find a still three inch deadpool being hired by Sandi and outlaw (swoon) to rescue Hayden. Wade of course demands four good reasons. Sandi refuses but Outlaw says it may be fun. For those who don't now either character-they are endowed to say the least. So Wade and Weasel find their way to a Hydra base due to a blogger named Bob th Hydra Agent. Whike Weasel talks about all the technical stuff they will need to do to get in...Wade sneaks off and blows things up. He then hitches into the base holding on to a guys show, takes out a shit load of Hydra agents AND the commandeers one. The one? Well it's none other than Bob, Deadpool wonders if this means Bob will get his own mini series now. So the two of them fight their way through the base (bob apologizing the whole way through to his now dead hydra agents) only to discover Alex has become morbidly obese. And whats worse? The change is permanent (hydra called it the American Gene). Wade "convinces" the hydra scientists to help him out. Next we see is Bob driving a forklift carrying the machine and alex while a full grown deadpool is kicking major ass. He then convinces Bob to help him escape. Only Bob doesn't really know how to fly an escape jet...it doesn't stop them from trying.
AAfter the escape Alex and Wade begin talking about why Wade would risk his life for him. Wade admits its because he is jealous of Alex's success. Alex admits DP is the better guy and asks Wade to take of Agency X until he loses a few pounds.
The last page we see is Sandi and Outlaw tied up by none other than T-RAY who wants vengeance against both Deadpool and Agent X for stealing his identity, one strip of flesh at a time!

x-factor 17-This series keeps getting better and better. Seriously it
is! 4.5 x'sIt opens at X-mas time where an Undersecretary of defense is attacked by a stuffed elephant, with a card reading..."we want out powers back-X0Cell. we find Jamie still hunting down is dupes. One is a detective who claims to be the worlds greatest detective (then takes stabs at batman). The dupe knows more about Jamie than Jamie does and doesn't want to give back the info because it will hurt the real deal. We find out that he has been investigating a dirty cop who seems to be invincible legally speaking. The dupe the pulls out a gun and shoots the oncoming cop, and is turn gun downed. Jamie is devastated. Just then Butterfly calls and informs him to come home right away. Rictor and Rhane argue about Pietro being evil as well as her refusal to talk to him (rictor). Rictor than makes a huge mistake by saying the only reason she is upset is because Jamie's dupes didn't try and seduce her. Things are about to get ugly when a kid scream for help. The two rush off and save the kid, only to find out that the muggers are feds the kid got away and that they are now surrounded by cape killers. Stron Guy and Layla are just chilling eating ice cream. Guido hates the nae of the ice cream because it is too cute, so she suggests calling it "Smelly Armpits" and not to worry because she's stalked up on it. Guido asks if she is expecting an army right in time for the cape killers to crash in and say they are under arrest for suspicion of aiding a terrorist. Layla then offers the cape killers her "Smelly Armpits" to the soldiers disgust. Madrox arrives in tine to see his neighborhood look like a gulag. He is then taken to Val Cooper who is hiring him to find out who or what this X-Cell is so that his comrades can be cleared of all charges. The leader is the same boy from earlier. The issue ends with the boy beging Pietro for help.

x-23 # 4, 4x's Fast Read. We learn more about the history between Kimura and X-23 Turns out that they made Kimura to be the one thing X-23 can't kill. She was her handler and anytime X23 faled any mission, missed a rendezvous point by a few seconds, or if she was lied too, Kimura would kick the shit out of her. Cap and Matt are asking if X023 killed the mother and daughter. She didn't at least not yet. She did kill the bad dude though, but not before he called out a mayday. The house is invaded, x23 gets her aunt and cousin to the basement. X23 then kicks the fucking shit out of the Facility guys but Kimura shows up and breaks her neck. The end. REAL FAST READ! but damn the art is pretty

x-men 97 3.5 x's. Would have been higher but i hate the art, so i took half an x away (it is improving though). this issues takes place on Providence were the team went to get Rogue medical help form last issue. The team breaks off to groups but not before Cable warns Lady Mastermind that he is Judge, Jury and Executioner on his island. Basically the group break up is this. Cable to do administrative work. Iceman and Mystique watch over Rogue and flirt. Karmina and Same freeze Sabertooth in a temporal portal, then debate the ethics of killing him (they are both pro dead kitty cat in talk). Lady Mastermind goes and finds a hypno therapist to help put her under. Her reasoning? To kind what ever is in her skull. The creature takes control of her, defeats iceman and mystique cable puts her/it down but it jumps over to mystique and tries to explain that is a creature like Cassandra nova was. It is not here to fight though, it's here because it needs telepaths to protect it from Hecatomb who also wants to eat the Earth

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

See, the latest X-Men is why I stopped reading it. I also dislike Astonishing but at least I enjoy complaining about it online. What I don't get is that Lady Mastermind has had her mind invaded by a creature who was killed by Xavier before he was born in utero? Huh? God, there's a reason the Morrison years are barely referenced and this and the Collective are prime examples of why,

[Kefky]

Cassandra is A mummudrai, not THE.

[bairdduvessa]

See, the latest X-Men is why I stopped reading it. I also dislike Astonishing but at least I enjoy complaining about it online. What I don't get is that Lady Mastermind has had her mind invaded by a creature who was killed by Xavier before he was born in utero? Huh? God, there's a reason the Morrison years are barely referenced and this and the Collective are prime examples of why,

Cassandra is A mummudrai, not THE.

ding ding ding

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

So it's someone else's dead unborn twin?

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I'll be reading X-Men again for a bit just so's I'm not lost when the X-Over starts but this issue helped me remember one of the reasons why I don't like Carey's writing nearly as much as I enjoy interviews with the guy: He doesn't do mysteries in the way I understand them. He doesn't explain things and calls them mysteries. I always thought mysteries were something that you have a decent shot at unravelling with the information you have on hand and you can't do that in a Carey book. Now, I'd read a monthly interview with him and pay top dollar but his books leave me cold...

[bairdduvessa]

I'll be reading X-Men again for a bit just so's I'm not lost when the X-Over starts but this issue helped me remember one of the reasons why I don't like Carey's writing nearly as much as I enjoy interviews with the guy: He doesn't do mysteries in the way I understand them. He doesn't explain things and calls them mysteries. I always thought mysteries were something that you have a decent shot at unravelling with the information you have on hand and you can't do that in a Carey book. Now, I'd read a monthly interview with him and pay top dollar but his books leave me cold...

to each their own. i think mr carey probably works best as a trade writer, at least that is my experience with him and his writings (lucifer, hellblazer). i don't think i would have enjoyed lucifer nearly as much as i have in single issue installments. howeveer i am still loving his run

[Vonn Hennigar]

So what do you guys think about these X-Force teases they keep dropping in interviews?

Cancel Cable & Deadpool and have them join X-Force along with Domino,Shatterstar,Meltdown,Sunspot and a few other faces old and new.

I'd dig it.

[bairdduvessa]

So what do you guys think about these X-Force teases they keep dropping in interviews?

Cancel Cable & Deadpool and have them join X-Force along with Domino,Shatterstar,Meltdown,Sunspot and a few other faces old and new.

I'd dig it.

i say just drop the cable part ant let deadpool and agency x run rampent

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

X-Factor 17
8 x's out of 10 (would've probably been nine if not for fill in art)

Another great issue, dealing with Jamie tracking down and seeking to reincorporate another dupe. I love the scene where Jamie meets this dupe and they have their cryptic conversation. PAD manages to lay a few seeds here for future stories in a great way. Uber? Who or what is that? And evidently there is quite a bit more to Jamie's powers than we all thought. Seems to me that PAD has some very clear ideas on where he wants to take this title for the foreseeable future. I, for one, want him to remain on this title for a *long* time. Raimondi's art is definitely missed this issue, though the fill-in art isn't bad. The upcoming X-Cell storyline (which really gets started next issue) looks to be interesting, as X-Factor is going to have to go head-to-head with Pietro. And i like the the ringleader of X-Cell is a kid (or at least I would assume so - since he no longer has mutant powers of any kind, I take it that what we see is what we get, if you will).

Highly recommended.

[Vonn Hennigar]

i say just drop the cable part ant let deadpool and agency x run rampent

Yeah but Marvel wants people to buy the book remember?

It's already the lowest selling X-Book of the bunch.

Giving Deadpool new characters to bounce off of while using a recongnizable team name to give it a boost sounds perfect to me.

Just let C&D hit 50 issues and then bam Early 2008 X-Force is back and this time they're not pandering to self-loathing Comix fanboys :twisted:

[joeAR]

So what do you guys think about these X-Force teases they keep dropping in interviews?

Cancel Cable & Deadpool and have them join X-Force along with Domino,Shatterstar,Meltdown,Sunspot and a few other faces old and new.

I'd dig it.


Wait, this is the first that i've heard of this. The first word that immidietly comes to mind is no. Hell no as a matter of fact but it all really depends on the execution.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

So what do you guys think about these X-Force teases they keep dropping in interviews?

Cancel Cable & Deadpool and have them join X-Force along with Domino,Shatterstar,Meltdown,Sunspot and a few other faces old and new.

I'd dig it.

I'd love to see a new X-Force series. Just as long as its nothing like the trainwreck that the last X-Force mini was. The line-up you suggest sounds pretty good to me. I'd definitely want Sunspot and Boomer (she'll always be Boomer to me), not so sure about Shatterstar. If Warpath wasn't being used in UXM, I'd say use him.

On the other hand, I don't want them to cancel C&D - I'm loving that book.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

i say just drop the cable part ant let deadpool and agency x run rampent

At this point they really should re-title C&D to Deadpool & Deadpool.

[bairdduvessa]

At this point they really should re-title C&D to Deadpool & Deadpool.

twice as much fun!

[Fake Pat]

I just picked up the newest issue of Adjectiveless on a whim.

Holy HELL, is Bachalo on in this issue.
I don't think i'm down for the big #200, but I'm definitely gonna get the rest of this arc.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I'd add Forge,Caliban and Danielle Moonstar to the new and improved X-Force just for the hell of it.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I'd add Forge,Caliban and Danielle Moonstar to the new and improved X-Force just for the hell of it.

where is Caliban these days, anyhow?

[joeAR]

I'd add Forge,Caliban and Danielle Moonstar to the new and improved X-Force just for the hell of it.


What would be the purpose of the X-Force book though? Each X-Book right now has a purpose and Adj. less X-Men pretty much already took X-Force's purprose.

[Vonn Hennigar]

What would be the purpose of the X-Force book though? Each X-Book right have has a purpose and Adj. less X-Men pretty much already took X-Force's purprose.

The same purpose as Cable & Deadpool, which it would be replacing. As in none really but fun regardless.

[Matt O.]

Need some honest advice here: is C&D worth buying? It seemed to slump a bit for a while there and I took it off my pull list. People disagree with me on this, but i think tie-ins help it. The Civil War issues were the best in a long while.

[joeAR]

The same purpose as Cable & Deadpool, which it would be replacing. As in none really but fun regardless.


Oh well in that case Hellz Yeah i can get behind this book.

[joeAR]

Need some honest advice here: is C&D worth buying? It seemed to slump a bit for a while there and I took it off my pull list. People disagree with me on this, but i think tie-ins help it. The Civil War issues were the best in a long while.


It's really picked up since Civil War also. I definitley recomend it.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Let's call it "Deadpool & X-Force!" (complete with exclamation).

[Matt O.]

I don't want X-Force, reminds me of the 90s



Anyone else notice that they finally got rid of the pointless stickied threads?:boogie:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I don't want X-Force, reminds me of the 90s



Anyone else notice that they finally got rid of the pointless stickied threads?:boogie:

I don't even remember what the other ones were... :dunno:

[Matt O.]

I don't even remember what the other ones were... :dunno:

Cap 25 and Confession. Both fantastic books, but 100 posts was more than enough.

[bairdduvessa]

where is Caliban these days, anyhow?

running around with shatterstar

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

running around with shatterstar

wait, was Caliban in the recent X-Force mini?
I bought and read all those, but I think I blocked 'em all from my brain.

[bairdduvessa]

wait, was Caliban in the recent X-Force mini?
I bought and read all those, but I think I blocked 'em all from my brain.

he was. he was also in 198 and civil war x-men. he was x-forces mole among the 198

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

he was. he was also in 198 and civil war x-men. he was x-forces mole among the 198

Nice. I steered clear of 198 and Civil War: X-Men. Good to see my pal Caliban getting some play.

[bairdduvessa]

Need some honest advice here: is C&D worth buying? It seemed to slump a bit for a while there and I took it off my pull list. People disagree with me on this, but i think tie-ins help it. The Civil War issues were the best in a long while.

'm biased so i can't really give you an neutral opnion. the books haven't been as great as they have been, but if you want a quick fun read then check them out.

cable/deadpool is not for everyone.

[bairdduvessa]

Nice. I steered clear of 198 and Civil War: X-Men. Good to see my pal Caliban getting some play.

in the x-froce mini he was basically a mute monster if i remember correctly. in cw:x he was like savage hulk.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

cable/deadpool is not for everyone.

but its definitely for me!

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

in the x-froce mini he was basically a mute monster if i remember correctly. in cw:x he was like savage hulk.

Lame.

[bairdduvessa]

but its definitely for me!
so if you like professional derailers you'll like cable/deadpool!
Lame.

i mean as a limited intellegence and a shit load of bulk

[YouStayClassy]

X-Men Civil War wasn't that bad, really. However 198 was so deeply rooted in the District X book, I was completely lost since I never read it.

[bairdduvessa]

X-Men Civil War wasn't that bad, really. However 198 was so deeply rooted in the District X book, I was completely lost since I never read it.

district x was good, gotham central was way better

[YouStayClassy]

district x was good, gotham central was way better

Yeah, it really doesn't get much better than Gotham Central.

Heh, DC let Ed Brubaker go. The fools....!

[bairdduvessa]

Yeah, it really doesn't get much better than Gotham Central.

Heh, DC let Ed Brubaker go. The fools....!

now if only marvel could patch things up with rucka.

[Kefky]

I think it's a safe bet that Cable and Bishop will be involved in the new x-force incarnation, since Alonso's been hinting for a while now that he had big plans for them.


And that annoys the hell outta since me I really like the more down-to-earth take on them that the x-books are doing right now. *sigh*

[YouStayClassy]

now if only marvel could patch things up with rucka.

I'm not really sure where Rucka would fit in though. I mean hell, every book has a damn near perfect creative team and we sure as hell don't need more. Seriously, after Thor launches they should put a moritorium on new books for awhile.

Not that I can afford them anymore, but geez.... this year is going to be NUTS!

[bairdduvessa]

I think it's a safe bet that Cable and Bishop will be involved in the new x-force incarnation, since Alonso's been hinting for a while now that he had big plans for them.


And that annoys the hell outta since me I really like the more down-to-earth take on them that the x-books are doing right now. *sigh*
cable and bishop would not be a good team together, they both are different in phillosophy. Plus Cable isn't liked by the gov't bishop is so willing to serve
I'm not really sure where Rucka would fit in though. I mean hell, every book has a damn near perfect creative team and we sure as hell don't need more. Seriously, after Thor launches they should put a moritorium on new books for awhile.

Not that I can afford them anymore, but geez.... this year is going to be NUTS!
i wish he never left wolverine

[Vonn Hennigar]

cable and bishop would not be a good team together, they both are different in phillosophy. Plus Cable isn't liked by the gov't bishop is so willing to serve

i wish he never left wolverine

I thought his Wolverine was meh at best, when Mark Millar and John Romita Jr came on i barely remembered Rucka's name.

[YouStayClassy]

I thought his Wolverine was meh at best, when Mark Millar and John Romita Jr came on i barely remembered Rucka's name.

Yeah, I must agree with this as well. I think Rucka's Wolverine was so good at the time because of how not so good it was the last few issues of his first book. Kinda made them seem a lot better.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Yeah, I must agree with this as well. I think Rucka's Wolverine was so good at the time because of how not so good it was the last few issues of his first book. Kinda made them seem a lot better.

I was still bitter about the re-launch so close to Issue #200 and Robertson's HobbiWolverine plus the Nu-Marvel nothing happens approach killed it for me early.

[YouStayClassy]

I was still bitter about the re-launch so close to Issue #200 and Robertson's HobbiWolverine plus the Nu-Marvel nothing happens approach killed it for me early.

God, I think I shot blood out of my eyes when I heard it wasn't going to hit 200. That's still nothing to DC ending JSA before #100 though.... :-?

[bairdduvessa]

I thought his Wolverine was meh at best, when Mark Millar and John Romita Jr came on i barely remembered Rucka's name.
out side of his final issue i hate millar's run. and i despise jrjr's art

[Kefky]

IMO, Rucka's Wolverine had some wonderful character work, but the stories were wonky at best. The last storyline was really, really, really, really, really(REALLY) bad.

[HomerGator]

out side of his final issue i hate millar's run. and i despise jrjr's art

Bairdduvessa, I like you. You make me laugh quite a bit.

But you are so wrong about this that I think I might have to kill you.

Am I kidding?

[Vonn Hennigar]

out side of his final issue i hate millar's run. and i despise jrjr's art

You sir are a damn fool.

John Romita Jr is the New King and that last WWII issue was horrible. Hey Wolverine instead of letting those Nazis kill you how bout you know...Kick their ass and free all those poor Jews???

[Vonn Hennigar]

IMO, Rucka's Wolverine had some wonderful character work, but the stories were wonky at best. The last storyline was really, really, really, really, really(REALLY) bad.

Was that the 7 issue Native storyline? Was it as bad as Paul Jenkins Wolverine : The End?

Shudder.

[YouStayClassy]

Was that the 7 issue Native storyline? Was it as bad as Paul Jenkins Wolverine : The End?

Shudder.

Paul Jenkins The End?!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooo!

There is no way in HELL Paul "Peter Parker and Hellblazer" Jenkins wrote that. NO WAY!

[Vonn Hennigar]

Paul Jenkins The End?!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooo!

There is no way in HELL Paul "Peter Parker and Hellblazer" Jenkins wrote that. NO WAY!

I thought it was common knowledge there are actually 2 different Paul Jenkins?

The talented writer of many many classics (Inhumans :rock: ) and his evil twin who sullys his name occasionally.

[HomerGator]

Paul Jenkins The End?!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooo!

There is no way in HELL Paul "Peter Parker and Hellblazer" Jenkins wrote that. NO WAY!

You never know, good ol' Paul's spent quite a bit of time rather fucked up on painkillers and various medications over the last year or so...

[Kefky]

Was that the 7 issue Native storyline? Was it as bad as Paul Jenkins Wolverine : The End?

Shudder.

No, but not many things in this world are THAT bad. ;)

Paul Jenkins The End?!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooo!

There is no way in HELL Paul "Peter Parker and Hellblazer" Jenkins wrote that. NO WAY!

Say, did you happen to read CW frontline 11? :lol:

[Vonn Hennigar]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/96793332051.1.GIF

:nonono2:

I did think the Professor X angle was clever but that really was it.

[bairdduvessa]

i'm sorry. jrjr too me is way to catooney for something as seriously brutal as wolverine enemy of the state. i liked him on the exiles, i liked him on spider man, but i have always haetd him with whatever else he has drawn that i have read.

i do appreciate his speed though

[YouStayClassy]

No, but not many things in this world are THAT bad. ;)



Say, did you happen to read CW frontline 11? :lol:

Frontline 11 was freaking Shakespeare compared to the End.

[Kefky]

Frontline 11 was freaking Shakespeare compared to the End.

Heh. You shoulda been here when people were whining about it. Fuck, I think the whole internet was. With that, and the captain marvel one-shot, Jenkins got all the online hate he'll need for the rest of his career just with this one event. :lol:

[HomerGator]

Heh. You shoulda been here when people were whining about it. Fuck, I think the whole internet was. With that, and the captain marvel one-shot, Jenkins got all the online hate he'll need for the rest of his career just with this one event. :lol:

Don't forget the two-page poems in Frontline. Those were shit on quite a bit, as well.

[bairdduvessa]

Don't forget the two-page poems in Frontline. Those were shit on quite a bit, as well.

i liked those :surrend:

[Vonn Hennigar]

Speedball becoming Penance?

Come on that was shit on a stick terrible.

Again i blame his evil twin.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Whoa whoa whoa. Baird doesn't like jrjr? The hell is going on? :crazy:

[HomerGator]

Speedball becoming Penance?

Come on that was shit on a stick terrible.

Again i blame his evil twin.

I didn't mind the fact that Speedball was becoming Penance, I just hated the way they did it. Just really really really out of character, and I blame the editors who assign Jenkins to these stories, even though he admits he has no idea who the characters are, or has read little or nothing about them/with them in it (Speedball and Captain Marvel).

That said, I really do like Paul Jenkins. I hold out hope that he'll get to do his Sentry ongoing.

[bairdduvessa]

Whoa whoa whoa. Baird doesn't like jrjr? The hell is going on? :crazy:

i never have. i started off and on picking up comics around the end of x-cutioners when i was a lad, and i remember uncanny 300 coming out and going, the art stinks, so i'll stick with the blue team!

[Vonn Hennigar]

I didn't mind the fact that Speedball was becoming Penance, I just hated the way they did it. Just really really really out of character, and I blame the editors who assign Jenkins to these stories, even though he admits he has no idea who the characters are, or has read little or nothing about them/with them in it (Speedball and Captain Marvel).

That said, I really do like Paul Jenkins. I hold out hope that he'll get to do his Sentry ongoing.

I don't mind the concept just the execution and it has nothing to do with ol Speedball continuity.

In Frontline itself Speedball continues to rightfully declare himself innocent of all wrongdoing, now if he just said fuck it, i can't win i give up i could accept that.

But instead all of a sudden he feels responsible for all those deaths and then essentially mutiliates himself.

Now feeling guilty is normal, of course he'd like to go back and change things, hell his friends are dead along with hundreds of innocents, anyone would feel bad about that and wish they would have done something different but that segment in Frontline # 10 was just so out of nowhere it came off horrible imo.

[HomerGator]

i never have. i started off and on picking up comics around the end of x-cutioners when i was a lad, and i remember uncanny 300 coming out and going, the art stinks, so i'll stick with the blue team!

I say again. I like you, but you are the wrongest person in all of wrongtown. You're so fucking wrong that it defies logic and belief.

I'm sorry. I mean no offense, even to someone as wrong and misguided as you, you poor soul.

SO wrong.

[HomerGator]

I don't mind the concept just the execution and it has nothing to do with ol Speedball continuity.

In Frontline itself Speedball continues to rightfully declare himself innocent of all wrongdoing, now if he just said fuck it, i can't win i give up i could accept that.

But instead all of a sudden he feels responsible for all those deaths and then essentially mutiliates himself.

Now feeling guilty is normal, of course he'd like to go back and change things, hell his friends are dead along with hundreds of innocents, anyone would feel bad about that and wish they would have done something different but that segment in Frontline # 10 was just so out of nowhere it came off horrible imo.

Yup.

[bairdduvessa]

I say again. I like you, but you are the wrongest person in all of wrongtown. You're so fucking wrong that it defies logic and belief.

I'm sorry. I mean no offense, even to someone as wrong and misguided as you, you poor soul.

SO wrong.

people said the same thing about jesus

except in that case they were right! :twisted:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I say again. I like you, but you are the wrongest person in all of wrongtown. You're so fucking wrong that it defies logic and belief.

I'm sorry. I mean no offense, even to someone as wrong and misguided as you, you poor soul.

SO wrong.

...but how do you really feel?

[bairdduvessa]

ok my stomachs settled time to do my actual work

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Are there really that many people nuts for JRJR's work? I've always thought it serviceable and workmanlike at best. And did anyone read Gaiman's Eternals? It was bad enough that Gaiman didn't even bring his C game but it looked like JRJR got tired of drawing in the middle of panels some tiems. Ugh. He's part of the reason I won't be buying World War Hulk.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I don't mind the concept just the execution and it has nothing to do with ol Speedball continuity.

In Frontline itself Speedball continues to rightfully declare himself innocent of all wrongdoing, now if he just said fuck it, i can't win i give up i could accept that.

But instead all of a sudden he feels responsible for all those deaths and then essentially mutiliates himself.

Now feeling guilty is normal, of course he'd like to go back and change things, hell his friends are dead along with hundreds of innocents, anyone would feel bad about that and wish they would have done something different but that segment in Frontline # 10 was just so out of nowhere it came off horrible imo.

Jenkins said in an interview that Speedball came to the conclusion he was wrong all along and would have to make himself over into Penance while he was unconscious. No lie. Made me wish I'd read the series the same way.

[bairdduvessa]

Are there really that many people nuts for JRJR's work? I've always thought it serviceable and workmanlike at best. And did anyone read Gaiman's Eternals? It was bad enough that Gaiman didn't even bring his C game but it looked like JRJR got tired of drawing in the middle of panels some tiems. Ugh. He's part of the reason I won't be buying World War Hulk.

again i liked it for eternals and spider-man

[bairdduvessa]

grrrrrr new joe fridays this week has a lot of x-related material but this board refuses to let me paste text and post it.

so um go read it. He answers questions regarding wolvierne's status, namor's mutant powers, endangered speices check list etc

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

grrrrrr new joe fridays this week has a lot of x-related material but this board refuses to let me paste text and post it.

so um go read it. He answers questions regarding wolvierne's status, namor's mutant powers, endangered speices check list etc

What? You can't paste? That sucks.

I'll post the relevant stuff.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

NRAMA: Endangered Species?

JQ: This is the place to be, the ground floor, where the groundwork will be laid for this November's X-Men event. It will run across 17 consecutive weeks and it leads to, yeah like I'm going to tell you yet, but let's just say that Endangered Species and the event it leads into will be the thing X-fans (and comic fans) will be talking about in way they haven't since the days of Mutant Massacre, Inferno, and Fall of the Mutants!

NRAMA: X-Men: First Class. A reader has a pretty astute question about a series such as this, but for now, why did this series beg to be continued indefinitely?

JQ: As Jeff Parker showed in the incredibly well-received mini, there are plenty of stories to tell of Xavier's first five students. The playground that was set up between X-Men #1 and Giant-Sized X-Men #1 was an incredibly interesting place and full of fertile ground to cover. It's going to be an interesting - and surprising - ride!

Question: If the whole point of the X-Men is to be "feared and hated by a world they've sworn to protect", and the message has always been "peaceful co-existence", how can the drastically reduced number of mutants play any sort of relevance in the post-Civil War world? The world at large no longer has to fear that their son or daughter may grow up to be a mutant, they no longer have to fear that the new neighbors down the street are mutants, and with government oversight over super-beings including the remaining mutants, what, honestly, does the general public have to fear from the X-Men more so than they do other super-heroes, registered or not?

Maybe, hopefully, this year's X-Men event will address some of these questions, but from where I sit now, it seems like the reduction of Mutants to make them "relevant" and/or "special" has instead made them pointless. 200 individuals is not a minority, it's an almost ignorable anomaly.

JQ: Great question, AreJaye, and we will address it because this is exactly the reason the mutant population has been whittled down. The clock is ticking and pressure is one.

Also, remember, as far as the general population is concerned, there could be new mutants being born today, nothing is for certain and that to me makes for some interesting story telling. With the every growing mutant population there were two ways to go, one was just have mutants take over and eventually be the only species which I think would eventually get pretty dull or the second would be to put them in a pressure cooker where time is literally running out. We chose the latter.

Question: I don't like coming into a story mid-arc if it can be avoided, so could you please reveal exactly what issue numbers in Uncanny X-Men, New X-Men, and X-Factor will be starting the Endangered Species backups so that those of us not getting them currently can know when exactly to start reading them?

JQ: Sure thing, Dalarsco. First you're going to want to pick up the Endangered Species On- Shot on sale June 20th. The back-up stories begin in the huger than huge X-Men #200. After that it goes in Uncanny X-Men #488, X-Factor #21, and New X-Men #40. And then so on and so forth.

Question: It was announced that the Endangered Species one-shot will be followed by a 17-part back up story in the various X-Men titles.

Are there any plans to collect these stories or will we have to buy all of those books to read it?

JQ: While we're still working on how it will all get collected, RunawayMouse, it wont be until after the events that the back up stories lead to.

I think thats all the relevant bits.

[bairdduvessa]

What? You can't paste? That sucks.

I'll post the relevant stuff.

since november whether i am at home or at work ths board won't let me paste any text unless it's from the board itself. it sucks. once in a while i can get a sentence from wikipedia in.

thanks for posting all the quotes there

[Vonn Hennigar]

That's a great reader question from that one dude about the insignificance of mutants that i honestly never considered.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

since november whether i am at home or at work ths board won't let me paste any text unless it's from the board itself. it sucks. once in a while i can get a sentence from wikipedia in.

thanks for posting all the quotes there

No problemo. I think I got all of it.

[bairdduvessa]

That's a great reader question from that one dude about the insignificance of mutants that i honestly never considered.
agreed
No problemo. I think I got all of it.

i believe so

[bairdduvessa]

has anybody been reading silent war? if so how wasit/is it?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

has anybody been reading silent war? if so how wasit/is it?

I passed on this but am keeping the option to trade.

[bairdduvessa]

I passed on this but am keeping the option to trade.

i had no choice but t pas it up at the time. which bummed me out because i loved Son of M. And I have a feeling that something huge is going to come out of that plus what Pietro is doing over in X-Factor

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

i had no choice but t pas it up at the time. which bummed me out because i loved Son of M. And I have a feeling that something huge is going to come out of that plus what Pietro is doing over in X-Factor

I meant to grab Son of M in trade, but I ... um... forgot. Damn, i need to get that. Maybe they'll put out an OHC of Son of M/Silent War. That'd be fun. :-)

I'm digging Pietro's appearances in X-Factor, though.

[bairdduvessa]

I meant to grab Son of M in trade, but I ... um... forgot. Damn, i need to get that. Maybe they'll put out an OHC of Son of M/Silent War. That'd be fun. :-)

I'm digging Pietro's appearances in X-Factor, though.

son of m was so effing good. Espeicaly in comparson to how bland 198 was. the characterization of Pietro was amazing, although his new powers are a little confusing. It is also why i think Layla Miller may be Luna from the future.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

son of m was so effing good. Espeicaly in comparson to how bland 198 was. the characterization of Pietro was amazing, although his new powers are a little confusing. It is also why i think Layla Miller may be Luna from the future.

:shock: interesting...

[Vonn Hennigar]

Son Of M is almost impossible to find now.

Marvel needs to go back to print on that trade pronto!

Someone get Jennifer Grunwald on the phone

[bairdduvessa]

:shock: interesting...

it is just a theory that i'm sure if it was true would be retconned in 5 years

(in my mind gen x's penance is a yugoslovian girl not some strange st croix family thing)

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Son Of M is almost impossible to find now.

Marvel needs to go back to print on that trade pronto!

Someone get Jennifer Grunwald on the phone

Shit, don't tell me that. I fell asleep at the wheel, dammit! :mad:

[bairdduvessa]

Son Of M is almost impossible to find now.

Marvel needs to go back to print on that trade pronto!

Someone get Jennifer Grunwald on the phone

which only leads more to my theory that something huge is going to happen soon

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

which only leads more to my theory that something huge is going to happen soon

or maybe it leads to my theory of a Son of M/Silent War OHC...

[bairdduvessa]

or maybe it leads to my theory of a Son of M/Silent War OHC...

...or that yes

(btw i love the avatar)

[Matt O.]

Son Of M is almost impossible to find now.

Marvel needs to go back to print on that trade pronto!

Someone get Jennifer Grunwald on the phone

I've seen a lot of copies around. Have you not read it yet? Great series.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

(btw i love the avatar)

Thank ye kindly. :thumb:

[bairdduvessa]

with all the sub human species (mutant, inhuman, atlantian, neo, children of the vault, cargas, etc) do you think that those repowered by peitro will be considered human or mutant, or a new species all together?

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

with all the sub human species (mutant, inhuman, atlantian, neo, children of the vault, cargas, etc) do you think that those repowered by peitro will be considered human or mutant, or a new species all together?

I kinda just assumed that they would be considered mutant, but you pose an interesting question...

[Matt O.]

with all the sub human species (mutant, inhuman, atlantian, neo, children of the vault, cargas, etc) do you think that those repowered by peitro will be considered human or mutant, or a new species all together?

I'm guessing they'll just be given a new name, people won't know WHAT they are.

[bairdduvessa]

I kinda just assumed that they would be considered mutant, but you pose an interesting question...

without the x-gene they will not be considered gentically to be homo superior. And they are not genetically inhumans either

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

without the x-gene they will not be considered gentically to be homo superior. And they are not genetically inhumans either

homo remarkable, perhaps?

[Vonn Hennigar]

homo remarkable, perhaps?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Big_Gay_Al.gif.gif :cool:

[bairdduvessa]

homo remarkable, perhaps?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Big_Gay_Al.gif.gif :cool:

hahahahahhahahahahahahahaahahhaahhaahahahahahahah

[bairdduvessa]

bored again. back to work i guess.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

bored again. back to work i guess.

Me also bored. But luckily also floating on medication. :thumb:

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

without the x-gene they will not be considered gentically to be homo superior. And they are not genetically inhumans either

Mybe they could be lumped in with Jamie Maddrox? BTW, are all mutants who manifest their powers at birth the same category as Jamie?

[Vonn Hennigar]

Mybe they could be lumped in with Jamie Madrox? BTW, are all mutants who manifest their powers at birth the same category as Jamie?

Jamies considered a totally normal mutant he just has the unusual position of exhibiting his powers from birth instead of adolescence.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Jamies considered a totally normal mutant he just has the unusual position of exhibiting his powers from birth instead of adolescence.

PAd established in the previous X-Factor arc that Jamie being empowered from birth made him anything but a totally normal mutant. It's six steps away from my spinner and I'm exhausted or I'd quote exactly...

[bairdduvessa]

Mybe they could be lumped in with Jamie Maddrox? BTW, are all mutants who manifest their powers at birth the same category as Jamie?
i've been wondering about this too. beast's abilities were presant at birth, so were leeche's right?
PAd established in the previous X-Factor arc that Jamie being empowered from birth made him anything but a totally normal mutant. It's six steps away from my spinner and I'm exhausted or I'd quote exactly...

that's what he said. then again Tryp (i think that was the villains name) could be wrong

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

i've been wondering about this too. beast's abilities were presant at birth, so were leeche's right?


that's what he said. then again Tryp (i think that was the villains name) could be wrong

Jamie acknowledged that possibility but declared that the villains rarely lie to you about this kind of thing. The big lies come from your friends.

[bairdduvessa]

finished x-factor visionaries peter david volume 2. Not as much fun as the first volume (maybe because the first 2 and 4th issues are from the hulk). overall the second volume seems to fall flat. Jamie's dialog is too forced.But still a fun read. Poor Reaper.

[twigglet]

I just reread old PAD X-factor, wonderful stuff.

I've just ordered the first 6 issues of Bill and Claremonts New Mutant run, and will soon have Gen X 1-18 (I love Jubilee, this was a must buy) as well as the original Longshot mini.

Looking forward to them all.

[bairdduvessa]

I just reread old PAD X-factor, wonderful stuff.

I've just ordered the first 6 issues of Bill and Claremonts New Mutant run, and will soon have Gen X 1-18 (I love Jubilee, this was a must buy) as well as the original Longshot mini.

Looking forward to them all.

sweet. and jubilee loving is welcome here!

[twigglet]

Good, she's my favorite character pretty much ever, if it wasn't for me watching the X-men TAS when I was about 7 or 8 and loving her character, I wouldn't be reading comics now.

I don't know what to do about this Endagered series, I might drop some comics and start reading all the X-men series, I love my New X-men trades, and Uncanny and X-men seem to be firing on all cylinders.

Plus, I'm getting less comics recently.

[Eric Williams]

I just reread old PAD X-factor, wonderful stuff.

I've just ordered the first 6 issues of Bill and Claremonts New Mutant run, and will soon have Gen X 1-18 (I love Jubilee, this was a must buy) as well as the original Longshot mini.

Looking forward to them all.
Very cool - they NEED to collect Generation X in some form of graphic novel (hardcovers, trade paperbacks, omnibus).

[bairdduvessa]

Very cool - they NEED to collect Generation X in some form of graphic novel (hardcovers, trade paperbacks, omnibus).

i'm still waiting for essential deadpool

[twigglet]

Very cool - they NEED to collect Generation X in some form of graphic novel (hardcovers, trade paperbacks, omnibus).

I thought the first 10 or so which I read were great.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I just reread old PAD X-factor, wonderful stuff.

I've just ordered the first 6 issues of Bill and Claremonts New Mutant run, and will soon have Gen X 1-18 (I love Jubilee, this was a must buy) as well as the original Longshot mini.

Looking forward to them all.

Awesome. There's a lot of fun stuff in there. You're in for a good time. :-D

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Good, she's my favorite character pretty much ever, if it wasn't for me watching the X-men TAS when I was about 7 or 8 and loving her character, I wouldn't be reading comics now.

I don't know what to do about this Endagered series, I might drop some comics and start reading all the X-men series, I love my New X-men trades, and Uncanny and X-men seem to be firing on all cylinders.

Plus, I'm getting less comics recently.

Yay. Go X-Men. :thumb:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

i'm still waiting for essential deadpool

Fuck that. Deadpool Omnibus is what we need.

[Matt O.]

Fuck that. Deadpool Omnibus is what we need.

They've got to have a demographic of at least 3 people for an omnibus:razz:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

They've got to have a demographic of at least 3 people for an omnibus:razz:

Quiet you.

[Matt O.]

Quiet you.

Ah, you silly rabbit.......

[HomerGator]

sweet. and jubilee loving is welcome here!

Isn't Jubilee like sixteen?

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Depends on who her costars are. Husk and Shadowcat being aged so they could have sex with adults muddies all the rest of the younger cast's ages.

[bairdduvessa]

Fuck that. Deadpool Omnibus is what we need.
yes!
They've got to have a demographic of at least 3 people for an omnibus:razz:
i'd buy 3!
Isn't Jubilee like sixteen?

her age fluctuates more than franklin richards

[Matt O.]

yes!

i'd buy 3!

So they've sold like 4?:p

[bairdduvessa]

So they've sold like 4?:p

that is at least 15 more than the dazzler trade

[iGotKittyPryde]

Depends on who her costars are. Husk and Shadowcat being aged so they could have sex with adults muddies all the rest of the younger cast's ages.

Weeell... Kitty was 13 and a half, what 20 years ago? I know Marvel time is flexible and all, but she started attending college recently before the events of Astonishing, so I'm thinking she's 18. So... that's 4 and a half years. That's not THAT bad, in terms of aging her. Especially since she's had a ton of "birthday" issues.

[bairdduvessa]

Weeell... Kitty was 13 and a half, what 20 years ago? I know Marvel time is flexible and all, but she started attending college recently before the events of Astonishing, so I'm thinking she's 18. So... that's 4 and a half years. That's not THAT bad, in terms of aging her. Especially since she's had a ton of "birthday" issues.

welcome to the thread

[iGotKittyPryde]

welcome to the thread

Well thank you. I just re-started posting and needed to try to come to defense of the aging of Ms. Pryde, because for some reason (let's go with sheer awesomeness) she's a favorite of mine. Plus because it'd be kind of bizarre if they left Kitty alone, age-wise. I mean, does anyone really want the bratty 13 year old Kitty still running around the meanstream universe? Not that it's not a good character, but she's moved beyond it... albiet after some "eh" variations on her character over the years (the super-extreme thrillseeker with Wolverine claw Kitty, for instance... not that cool).

Astonising-era Kitty is aged just right for the character, still young but not a kid. And Jubes seems to be not that much younger... I mean, didn't she have an office job in one of her last appearances? THAT to me is a mistake... Jubes should stay as like 16.

Here's a question: how old is Rachel?

[bairdduvessa]

Well thank you. I just re-started posting and needed to try to come to defense of the aging of Ms. Pryde, because for some reason (let's go with sheer awesomeness) she's a favorite of mine. Plus because it'd be kind of bizarre if they left Kitty alone, age-wise. I mean, does anyone really want the bratty 13 year old Kitty still running around the meanstream universe? Not that it's not a good character, but she's moved beyond it... albiet after some "eh" variations on her character over the years (the super-extreme thrillseeker with Wolverine claw Kitty, for instance... not that cool).

Astonising-era Kitty is aged just right for the character, still young but not a kid. And Jubes seems to be not that much younger... I mean, didn't she have an office job in one of her last appearances? THAT to me is a mistake... Jubes should stay as like 16.

Here's a question: how old is Rachel?

kity was 17 when illyanna died...
rachel...um same age i'd assume (as kitty)
now figure out cable's age

[iGotKittyPryde]

In a lot of these cases the exact age doesn't matter. Cable, for instance, well... I mean, he's an older adult male. I mean, maybe 40-something? But he's an adult. Characters like Kitty, Jubilee, Franklin Richards etc. that started as children, it's much more important, because the difference of what you can do with a 16 year old character and a 20 year old character is much more distinct.

Most of the X-Men characters, I'd say are just Marvel aged "adult". I don't think anyone is going to say "why Cyclops, clearly he's 34!" because what does it matter, to any story.

I wish, on some level, though, that they'd set up a consistent aging device. Obviously the "year= a year" model makes no sense, but setting up where "x number of issues passed in this years time". Of course I say this after making the point that it doesn't matter, but it'd help with aging the younger characters in a sensical manner.

[bairdduvessa]

In a lot of these cases the exact age doesn't matter. Cable, for instance, well... I mean, he's an older adult male. I mean, maybe 40-something? But he's an adult. Characters like Kitty, Jubilee, Franklin Richards etc. that started as children, it's much more important, because the difference of what you can do with a 16 year old character and a 20 year old character is much more distinct.

Most of the X-Men characters, I'd say are just Marvel aged "adult". I don't think anyone is going to say "why Cyclops, clearly he's 34!" because what does it matter, to any story.

I wish, on some level, though, that they'd set up a consistent aging device. Obviously the "year= a year" model makes no sense, but setting up where "x number of issues passed in this years time". Of course I say this after making the point that it doesn't matter, but it'd help with aging the younger characters in a sensical manner.

agreed. Luna is established around 6 years of age, franklin should be 11 or 12 by that logic right?

[Vonn Hennigar]

Cable's pretty clearly in his Mid-40's.

He had a son Genesis who had to be about 20. In terms of real-time he's about
2052 i'd say.

[YouStayClassy]

The question is how old was Kitty when Wisdom popped her cherry?

[bairdduvessa]

The question is how old was Kitty when Wisdom popped her cherry?

one day over the age of consent!

[YouStayClassy]

one day over the age of consent!

Hellz yeah!

[iGotKittyPryde]

The question is how old was Kitty when Wisdom popped her cherry?

Pfft... probably under 18. Wisdom is kind of a douche though, so it's not quite as crazy as Colossus' kind of creepy relationship with her.

[bairdduvessa]

Hellz yeah!

i looked up my state's law. it's 16 unless they were leading a chaste life before that, then it's 18. what the fuck does that mean?

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

It means your state doesn'tgive a rat's ass on the well being of who they think are sluts...

[iGotKittyPryde]

i looked up my state's law. it's 16 unless they were leading a chaste life before that, then it's 18. what the fuck does that mean?

Can't say I can make heads or tails of it. More pertinent though is English laws... since, I mean they were Excaliburing it up and all...

[bairdduvessa]

Can't say I can make heads or tails of it. More pertinent though is English laws... since, I mean they were Excaliburing it up and all...

kitty was a member of shield while underage...she may have legally been declared an adult

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Kitty was old enough under British law. I wonder about the citizenship status. Where the US members of that team (and the current one) in the country under work visas? Might be an interesting angle to visit, especially if someone wants to get Cain Marko or Alison Blair out of the country. 'Course, Nocturne would be the most problematic due to her nonexistent staus in the 616. That will be moot when she ships out again. A shame that, as I find her interesting where she is (or did pre-stroke).

[iGotKittyPryde]

kitty was a member of shield while underage...she may have legally been declared an adult

That's a really really weird idea. Because legally being declared an adult really seems like a fairly frail ethical cover for the act. So... maybe it wasn't illegal but it was still shady. But... again, Wisdom's a douche so it's not exactly character assisination...

[iGotKittyPryde]

Kitty was old enough under British law. I wonder about the citizenship status. Where the US members of that team (and the current one) in the country under work visas? Might be an interesting angle to visit, especially if someone wants to get Cain Marko or Alison Blair out of the country. 'Course, Nocturne would be the most problematic due to her nonexistent staus in the 616. That will be moot when she ships out again. A shame that, as I find her interesting where she is (or did pre-stroke).

I think am interesting story for the future would be someone from the future or another dimension or one of those things dealing with not being an existing person. I mean, not having a Social Security number because you didn't exist is an interesting conundrum, at least as a subplot. It's the type of thing that would be interesting in an X-Factor sort of comic, maybe...

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

That's a really really weird idea. Because legally being declared an adult really seems like a fairly frail ethical cover for the act. So... maybe it wasn't illegal but it was still shady. But... again, Wisdom's a douche so it's not exactly character assisination...

I keep starting to defend Wisom but then I remember that he is a douche and that's exactly why I like him. I was pretty pissed at how short lived he and Kitty's relationship was and how down she seems to be on the man since. Wasn't it her that cheated on him? Tho' to be honest, I haven't been happy that Kitty's back at all. I thought her reasons for retiring made a lot of sense and just because Whedon wanted her to bump uglies with the inferior Peter is not a good enough reason to go back on that.

[iGotKittyPryde]

I keep starting to defend Wisom but then I remember that he is a douche and that's exactly why I like him. I was pretty pissed at how short lived he and Kitty's relationship was and how down she seems to be on the man since. Wasn't it her that cheated on him? Tho' to be honest, I haven't been happy that Kitty's back at all. I thought her reasons for retiring made a lot of sense and just because Whedon wanted her to bump uglies with the inferior Peter is not a good enough reason to go back on that.

I'll admit, her reasons for re-tiring were good, and reasons for coming back not exactly fantastic, but she's been written SO well by Whedon, that I don't really mind. I'd like to see a future story kind of get into her head and figure out where her old reasons and her new status quo co-exist and why, but for the moment I'm fine that Joss has her and is writing her so well... of course if she ends up, oh I don't know, dead in the new Astonishing arc, well... I'll be pretty pissed.

[bairdduvessa]

I think am interesting story for the future would be someone from the future or another dimension or one of those things dealing with not being an existing person. I mean, not having a Social Security number because you didn't exist is an interesting conundrum, at least as a subplot. It's the type of thing that would be interesting in an X-Factor sort of comic, maybe...

heh legally cable is a toddler

[bennymatthewtaylor]

heh legally cable is a toddler

Mentally, Deadpool is a toddler.

Cable showed up with a space station the size of a city in the 70s full of super technology. His main problem would have been that society wasn't computerized enough for him to take advantage of... You have to wonder if Graymalken acted as an orbital defensive position to many stray invasion fleets not specifically mentioned by history if he was too concerned about the timeline in the beginning?

[bairdduvessa]

Mentally, Deadpool is a toddler.

Cable showed up with a space station the size of a city in the 70s full of super technology. His main problem would have been that society wasn't computerized enough for him to take advantage of... You have to wonder if Graymalken acted as an orbital defensive position to many stray invasion fleets not specifically mentioned by history if he was too concerned about the timeline in the beginning?

heh in the beginning his only concern seemed to be training cannonball to become a super soldier

(true fact cable was originally supposed to be cannonball from the future not Nate Summers)

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Really? What about who Bishop's Traitor was originally intended to be. Anyone ever know? There's now way it was to be Xavier.

[bairdduvessa]

Really? What about who Bishop's Traitor was originally intended to be. Anyone ever know? There's now way it was to be Xavier.

gambit was the whiteness. Gambit was also supposed to be a manifestation of that nate kid who also created sinister-before fabian, PAD, lobdell and all fixed that!

[bairdduvessa]

ok let me try and put this into english.
mr sinister was supposed to be the evil manifestation of a mutant named nate who could never grow up. for some reason nate hated scott from back when they were orphans together. to spy on the x-men he created a good version of sinister named gambit. gambit was supposed to be a spy (which is very evident in his early appearances).

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

ok let me try and put this into english.
mr sinister was supposed to be the evil manifestation of a mutant named nate who could never grow up. for some reason nate hated scott from back when they were orphans together. to spy on the x-men he created a good version of sinister named gambit. gambit was supposed to be a spy (which is very evident in his early appearances).

Indeed.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

So no one knows the Image boys first choice as traitor?

[Vonn Hennigar]

So no one knows the Image boys first choice as traitor?

Seems pretty clear-cut it was supposed to be Gambit.

[Ryan F]

Seems pretty clear-cut it was supposed to be Gambit.

Wasn't it a little too clear cut?

I thought I heard somewhere that Bishop was going to be the traitor in some wacky timeloop irony. i may have just made that up. Lack of planning ahead was a major problem with early 90s X-Men, so they probably had no idea.

[Kefky]

No one at marvel probably knew who it was, Gambit was just the really, really obvious bait. As with anything that came out of the x-office during the '90's, they were probably planning on making it up as they go along.


And then they forgot about it. .-.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I never took it to be Gambit. He was The Witness and I never thought it (originally) written that he could be both. Onslaught was such a huge cluster fuck that I wish any other resolution to The Traitor storyline had been used.

[bairdduvessa]

Wasn't it a little too clear cut?

I thought I heard somewhere that Bishop was going to be the traitor in some wacky timeloop irony. i may have just made that up. Lack of planning ahead was a major problem with early 90s X-Men, so they probably had no idea.

that was on a marvel universe series three card

[HomerGator]

Ugh. This reminds me why the X-Men used to suck so bad.

[HomerGator]

So I'll pose everyone a question:

Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, New X-Men, or X-Factor? Or even Exiles?

I'm leaving out Astonishing (because I think pretty much everyone will say it), Cable/Deadpool, and the Wolverine books. Just the team books (minus Astonishing).

I think they're all kickass right now (don't read Exiles, though). If I had to chose a favorite, it'd probably be Carey's X-Men, because I like all the tripped out, Morrison-esque villains and characterization.

The others are ALL really good right now, though.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

So I'll pose everyone a question:

Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, New X-Men, or X-Factor? Or even Exiles?

I'm leaving out Astonishing (because I think pretty much everyone will say it), Cable/Deadpool, and the Wolverine books. Just the team books (minus Astonishing).

I think they're all kickass right now (don't read Exiles, though). If I had to chose a favorite, it'd probably be Carey's X-Men, because I like all the tripped out, Morrison-esque villains and characterization.

The others are ALL really good right now, though.

I think New X-Men is the most kick ass with the breakneck speed, great characterizations, and the feeling that any character's next mistake could be fatal. A close second for me is Uncanny followed by X-Factor, Excalibur, Exiles, Astonising, and way in last place X-Men by Carey. If it weren't part of that 17 part back up crossover I wouldn't be reading it. I dropped X-Men from my pull list after the team took down the Beaubier twins and picked up 197 so I wouldn't feel lost when the X-over starts. Still hated it too.

[HomerGator]

I think New X-Men is the most kick ass with the breakneck speed, great characterizations, and the feeling that any character's next mistake could be fatal. A close second for me is Uncanny followed by X-Factor, Excalibur, Exiles, Astonising, and way in last place X-Men by Carey. If it weren't part of that 17 part back up crossover I wouldn't be reading it. I dropped X-Men from my pull list after the team took down the Beaubier twins and picked up 197 so I wouldn't feel lost when the X-over starts. Still hated it too.

What do you think of Skottie Young replacing Paco Medina on pencils?

As far as Carey's X-Men, diffierent strokes for different folks, I guess. I really enjoy it, despite the art sometimes (Ramos).

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

[QUOTE=HomerGator;2892730]What do you think of Skottie Young replacing Paco Medina on pencils?QUOTE]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Do I need to be any clearer on how I feel about the artistic change on New X-Men?

[HomerGator]

[QUOTE=HomerGator;2892730]What do you think of Skottie Young replacing Paco Medina on pencils?QUOTE]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Do I need to be any clearer on how I feel about the artistic change on New X-Men?

Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel. I'm confident in the abilities of the writing team, but I'm just not a fan of Skottie's. Nothing personal against the guy, I met him at a MegaCon and he was really cool. Just don't think his style is right for the book.

[bairdduvessa]

So I'll pose everyone a question:

Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, New X-Men, or X-Factor? Or even Exiles?

I'm leaving out Astonishing (because I think pretty much everyone will say it), Cable/Deadpool, and the Wolverine books. Just the team books (minus Astonishing).

I think they're all kickass right now (don't read Exiles, though). If I had to chose a favorite, it'd probably be Carey's X-Men, because I like all the tripped out, Morrison-esque villains and characterization.

The others are ALL really good right now, though.
even with with the art carey's x-men, but x-factor rules
What do you think of Skottie Young replacing Paco Medina on pencils?

As far as Carey's X-Men, diffierent strokes for different folks, I guess. I really enjoy it, despite the art sometimes (Ramos).
boooooooooooooooooooooooo

[lonesomefool]

I say X-Factor, it's one of the best books on the market right now

The other books are good, though I really havent been following New X-Men, and that doesnt look to be changing with the upcoming art change.

I also dont read Exiles, but that's because I dont touch Claremont books, if I wanted to read comics from the 70's, I would actually read comics that came out in the 70's.

[Akira]

I just realized that I'm buying Wolverine, Wolverine:Origins, Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, Astonishing X-Men, and X-Factor. I haven'nt bought this many x-titles on a regular basis, ever. Last time I bought close to this many was in the late 80s/early 90s when I was buying X-Men, Uncanny, X-Factor, and Generation X. It's such a great time to be an X-Fan :D

[Ryudo]

I'm buying AXM and X-Factor.

When AXM, you know, comes out. :surrend:

[iGotKittyPryde]

It's tough for me to choose between X-Factor and Astonishing, but past them Uncanny is generally a good read. I *was* reading X-Men but the art just put me off. I haven't been reading NXM because at a certain point it was kind of overkill... sort of literally. X-23 has been all right, but I'm mildly disappointed with it. It's generally just too quick a read. I bought the first 2 issues of Loeb's Wolverine and they were some of the most dreadfully terrible comics I've read... Origins isn't AS bad but it started off as the most boring nothing happening comic I was reading and slowly things started happening and I found myself wishing for the days when nothing was happening. Daken may be the worst new character created in comics in the last few years (the best, imo, being Layla Miller)...

[bairdduvessa]

I just realized that I'm buying Wolverine, Wolverine:Origins, Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, Astonishing X-Men, and X-Factor. I haven'nt bought this many x-titles on a regular basis, ever. Last time I bought close to this many was in the late 80s/early 90s when I was buying X-Men, Uncanny, X-Factor, and Generation X. It's such a great time to be an X-Fan :D

welcome to the thread!

[bairdduvessa]

dead week this week, only
ult x-men 80*
and
wolverine 52

and we are so close to a thousand replies too

[Ryudo]

ult x-men 80*


Unfortunately, UltXM is dead to me.

[bairdduvessa]

Unfortunately, UltXM is dead to me.

its going to trade after the current arc for me

but those who read it or wolverine please, PLEASE post reviews

[Ryudo]

please, PLEASE post reviews

Oh yeah, the latest issue of X-Factor was pretty sweet.

[bairdduvessa]

Oh yeah, the latest issue of X-Factor was pretty sweet.

i leave that book drooling every month

[iGotKittyPryde]

Ugh... I'm hoping they get Kirkman off Ultimate soon so I can start reading it again. I like Invincible. I like Ant-Man. Team-Up was all right. Ultimate X-Men? Horrible. I mean, the biggest thing is Nightcrawler going evil, because it's... just wrong. The Ultimate books are supposed to provide sort of a cross between classic and modern takes on the characters. Changing the make-up of a character like Longshot is fine by me, but Nightcrawler? Gah. And the Magical arc was pretty mediocre too. I did like the Lilandra/Phoenix arc, outside of the Magician subplot but the Annual just killed my interest in the book.

I'm hoping the get Kirkman off the book, and soon. I don't know who I'd have replace him but they'll have their work cut out for them in repairing the book. And to think Vaughn's run was rather good... *sigh*

[iGotKittyPryde]

Wow... I just realized... my two least favorite X-books are the only two coming out... and not that long ago, they were two of my favorite X-books... (I loved Enemy of the State *and* BKV's Ultimate).

Oh well, saves me money at least...

[bairdduvessa]

Wow... I just realized... my two least favorite X-books are the only two coming out... and not that long ago, they were two of my favorite X-books... (I loved Enemy of the State *and* BKV's Ultimate).

Oh well, saves me money at least...

yup

[Ryan F]

So I'll pose everyone a question:

Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, New X-Men, or X-Factor? Or even Exiles?

I'm leaving out Astonishing (because I think pretty much everyone will say it), Cable/Deadpool, and the Wolverine books. Just the team books (minus Astonishing).

I think they're all kickass right now (don't read Exiles, though). If I had to chose a favorite, it'd probably be Carey's X-Men, because I like all the tripped out, Morrison-esque villains and characterization.

The others are ALL really good right now, though.

I think I'd go Carey as well, with David's X-Factor a close second (though it's pretty much apples and oranges with those two). Brubaker is third (and he's my favorite writer right now - I think he just made the Shi`ar arc about four issues too long). Kyle and Yost on New X-Men are solid as well, and I feel like they are also on the verge of breaking through. My only other x-book is Astonishing.

Yep, it is a great time to be an x-fan. Crossovers killed my interest in the books in the early 90s, but with this group of writers, I'm actually really looking forward to the upcoming x-over.

Also, yay for Storm returning to uncanny. If Wolverine can do two teams, two solos, and a bunch of guest appearances, Storm can do two teams and a supporting role in Black Panther.

[iGotKittyPryde]

Ugh... I wish Storm *wasn't* coming back. She's my least favorite regular X-character... I was quite happy to have her away from any books I was reading. I don't really know what puts me off her. But I was happy to be able to avoid her...

[Ryan F]

Ugh... I wish Storm *wasn't* coming back. She's my least favorite regular X-character... I was quite happy to have her away from any books I was reading. I don't really know what puts me off her. But I was happy to be able to avoid her...

I don't think she's been written well for about twenty years, but back in the day, she was definitely one of my favorites. I trust Bru to rejuvenate the character a bit.

[Matt Jay]

Also, yay for Storm returning to uncanny. If Wolverine can do two teams, two solos, and a bunch of guest appearances, Storm can do two teams and a supporting role in Black Panther.
They've been getting better about Wolverine, haven't they? Astonishing barely comes out so it's like he's just in three titles a month. I would love to see a "Wolverine Watch" thread documenting his monthly appearances. Then, after awhile, someone could do a graph so we can see his busiest times of the year. Would someone with more ambition like to take up the task? I'm lazy.

[Ryan F]

They've been getting better about Wolverine, haven't they? Astonishing barely comes out so it's like he's just in three titles a month. I would love to see a "Wolverine Watch" thread documenting his monthly appearances. Then, after awhile, someone could do a graph so we can see his busiest times of the year. Would someone with more ambition like to take up the task? I'm lazy.

I'm not that bothered by Wolverine. If you just assume that the guy has no down time, I think it's perfectly reasonable that he could appear in so many places at once (considering that the typical comic book arc is probably a day or two worth of action). I just think that Storm deserves the same treatment - Wolverine and Storm should always have an X-team, even if they are in the Avengers and FF.

[iGotKittyPryde]

Wolverine is fine at the moment although it seems a bit odd that the X-Men were staying out of it, Wolverine didn't get involved in the final fight and *then* Wolverine rejoins the New Avengers. Frankly, it seems like a good excuse to get him out of the Avenger mix for a while (or for the X-Men to not want him around). Heck, while I don't mind the number of books he's in, it might be nice to just have him away in his solo books for a while once Astonishing ends.

If nothing else, the NA connection is a very good reason for the X-Men to kick him out. Well, that and attacking Sabertooth for no reason in his solo book recently...

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

dead week this week, only
ult x-men 80*
and
wolverine 52

and we are so close to a thousand replies too

Damn. Nothing for me.


edit - Post 1000!!!