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Arion
10-13-2009, 08:27 PM
So, what do you guys think???
Is Magneto truely joining the X-Men?? Is he back to take his asteroid home since Cyke took it without his permission??? How cool would Magnus look in an X-Man uniform???
I think he shouldn't wear the regular X-Men uniform...
Dr. Chaos
10-13-2009, 09:20 PM
So, what do you guys think???
Is Magneto truely joining the X-Men?? Is he back to take his asteroid home since Cyke took it without his permission??? How cool would Magnus look in an X-Man uniform???
I'm hoping he tries to covertly challenge Cable for his position as Hope's mentor. Possibly nurturing a darker side in her.
Cyclops may allow Magneto to play ball but be we all know he's probably not been the most well put together individual mentally.
Mutant Jesus Christ sounds like the kind of project he would be interested in.
Svady
10-13-2009, 10:31 PM
What happens to Cable's book? Doesn't he seem like he would play a pretty big role in all of this? I'm surprised it's not been announced as being involved. I hope it's not being canceled. It was starting to really pick up, I thought.
artimoff
10-13-2009, 11:08 PM
I'm going to guess that X-Force will be about Cable, Hope & others on the team & that his solo book will end.
Isn't Cable, like, super old now?
artimoff
10-13-2009, 11:46 PM
Isn't Cable, like, super old now?
He's a comic character in a sci-fi universe. Anything can happen.
But yeah, he's super old.
Svady
10-14-2009, 11:01 AM
I guess it makes the most sense for him to join them now that the mission of his solo book is over. I have this bad feeling that he may just get killed off, though.
Spidey616
10-14-2009, 02:08 PM
Speaking of Cable, some Steve Dillon pages from the "A Girl Named Hope" backups
http://i.newsarama.com/images/X-Men_AGirlNamedHope_Preview1.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/X-Men_AGirlNamedHope_Preview2.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/X-Men_AGirlNamedHope_Preview3.jpg
Arion
10-14-2009, 05:19 PM
Isn't Cable, like, super old now?
As far as I know there should be no discrimination against old people...
Zac Goyette
10-14-2009, 05:47 PM
I liked the new issue and thought that it was really interesting, but am I the only one who had a tough time buying that Magneto would bow before Cyclops?
Spidey616
10-15-2009, 07:38 PM
Exclusive Marvel Preview - X-MEN LEGACY #228 (http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=31312)
Arion
10-15-2009, 08:21 PM
I liked the new issue and thought that it was really interesting, but am I the only one who had a tough time buying that Magneto would bow before Cyclops?
I say if he bows before Cyclops then it's not the real Magneto.
MabusRex
10-15-2009, 09:14 PM
Sorry, but I officially can't stand Fraction's Professor X...
Arion
10-16-2009, 10:58 AM
Sorry, but I officially can't stand Fraction's Professor X...
Would it be OK if I ask why?
artimoff
10-16-2009, 05:15 PM
Sorry, but I officially can't stand Fraction's Professor X...
Wern't the Professor & magneto good friends the last few times they've met in both New Excalibur & House of M? Then in Legacy they were kinda chummy.
joeAR
10-16-2009, 05:31 PM
I hate to say it but I actually liked something about Greg Lands art in the latest Uncanny. When Magneto threw his helmet to Cyclops you actually see the electronics inside. I'm not sure if anybody's actually done that before.
Bandit Chimera
10-16-2009, 05:36 PM
Wern't the Professor & magneto good friends the last few times they've met in both New Excalibur & House of M? Then in Legacy they were kinda chummy.
Yeah but it was actually just volume 3 of Excalibur (the one on Genosha) I actually really enjoyed Claremont's writing on that book.....not so much on New Excalibur (the one with Pete Wisdom and Captain Britian)
marco19
10-16-2009, 05:42 PM
i was just thinking with yost and kyle wrapping up their x-force run after the next crossover second coming ,,hoepfully we can have duane swierczinki move over to x-force, with cable, yost and kyle take over uncanny x-men and fraction either takes on thor or maybe a new avenger book. Fraction run has just been blah, not as bad as people say but nowhere as good as it could be, and this last mageto issue was just plain bad
joeAR
10-16-2009, 06:07 PM
Wern't the Professor & magneto good friends the last few times they've met in both New Excalibur & House of M? Then in Legacy they were kinda chummy.
True but Xaiver probably knows about Magneto "attacking" the X-Men in Uncanny 500
Cardinal Braxiatel
10-17-2009, 11:16 PM
I say if he bows before Cyclops then it's not the real Magneto.
It's the real Magneto if he knows that this act will disarm Scott so he can get close enough to enact whatever plan he has in motion...
HomerGator
10-19-2009, 07:51 PM
I don't get the Uncanny hate. I'm loving this book so much more than I was with Brubaker at the helm. As far as the Mags bowing to Scott, I can see it. Scott has accomplished what Mags has been trying to accomplish for over 500 issues! It was a public display of Magneto admitting that Scott has become bigger than he and Charles were; that he is the third option to the Xavier or Mageto question. It's not like he was bowing to Cyclops in subservience. He was just showing the X-Men he wasn't there for a fight, as he was showing Scott respect. People making such a big deal...
Besides, it's not like he's not going to do some crazy shit down the line.
Spidey616
10-19-2009, 07:53 PM
Advance X-Solicitations, January 2010 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23357)
Fantomex!
HomerGator
10-19-2009, 08:06 PM
Random question for the thread: Who are some of your favorite X-characters (X-Men, villains, supporting characters, etc) that are more obscure? For instance, not 'Magneto' or 'Wolverine', but more like 'Cypher' or 'Douglock' or 'Artie'.
For me, I'd say I always liked Caliban, Cameron Hodge, Deathbird, the Brood, Master Mold, Sauron, Freedom Force, and about three or four dozen others...
Spidey616
10-20-2009, 02:44 PM
Exclusive First Look: DEADPOOL #17 (http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=31391)
X,X Baby! :)
MabusRex
10-20-2009, 03:12 PM
Random question for the thread: Who are some of your favorite X-characters (X-Men, villains, supporting characters, etc) that are more obscure? For instance, not 'Magneto' or 'Wolverine', but more like 'Cypher' or 'Douglock' or 'Artie'.
For me, I'd say I always liked Caliban, Cameron Hodge, Deathbird, the Brood, Master Mold, Sauron, Freedom Force, and about three or four dozen others...
Abyss, baby! And maybe Anole (worst name for a gay character...ever!). And though not an X-Character but IS a mutant: Ricochet.
Fake Pat
10-20-2009, 03:16 PM
I don't get the Uncanny hate.
Chalk it up to the terrible, terrible art.
Dr. Chaos
10-20-2009, 03:41 PM
Exclusive First Look: DEADPOOL #17 (http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=31391)
X,X Baby! :)
Deadpool: Hey, Nate! I was this close to banging Domino..damn, it was awesome.
Cable: Hope...close your eyes, sweetheart.
*loads gun*
Spidey616
10-20-2009, 07:21 PM
CBR interview with Mike Carey on X-Men: Legacy
Mike Carey's "Legacy" (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23387)
HomerGator
10-20-2009, 07:40 PM
I :heart: Mike Carey's X-Men.
Spidey616
10-21-2009, 02:35 PM
CBR X-Position with Kyle and Yost and X-Force #20 Preview
X-POSITION: Craig Kyle and Chris Yost (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23398)
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/3644/prv3644_pg2.jpg
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/3644/prv3644_pg3.jpg
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/3644/prv3644_pg4.jpg
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/3644/prv3644_pg5.jpg
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/3644/prv3644_pg6.jpg
joeAR
10-21-2009, 02:44 PM
I don't get the Uncanny hate. I'm loving this book so much more than I was with Brubaker at the helm. As far as the Mags bowing to Scott, I can see it. Scott has accomplished what Mags has been trying to accomplish for over 500 issues! It was a public display of Magneto admitting that Scott has become bigger than he and Charles were; that he is the third option to the Xavier or Mageto question. It's not like he was bowing to Cyclops in subservience. He was just showing the X-Men he wasn't there for a fight, as he was showing Scott respect. People making such a big deal...
Besides, it's not like he's not going to do some crazy shit down the line.
:thumb:
HomerGator
10-21-2009, 03:05 PM
:wave:
AMERICA DAVE
10-21-2009, 03:11 PM
Hey guys, I would like to catch up with Fraction's X-Men, what's the trades order? Thanks.
Spidey616
10-22-2009, 06:59 PM
Dark Reign: The List - Wolverine Preview (http://comics.ign.com/articles/103/1038244p1.html)
Marvel Boy, Fantomex, the World! :rock:
The Kiai
10-22-2009, 07:05 PM
Dark Reign: The List - Wolverine Preview (http://comics.ign.com/articles/103/1038244p1.html)
Marvel Boy, Fantomex, the World! :rock:
Why don't I own this!?!?!?!?!?! :mad:
John Drake
10-22-2009, 07:33 PM
Hey guys, I would like to catch up with Fraction's X-Men, what's the trades order? Thanks.
1. Manifest Destiny. Collects Uncanny X-Men #500-503, X-Men Free Comic Book Day #1, and Manifest Destiny: Dazzler, Karma, Mercury/X-23, Colossus, Emma Frost, Graymalkin & Juggernaut.
http://www.amazon.com/Manifest-Destiny-Uncanny-X-Men-Vol/dp/078513817X/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256264929&sr=8-4
That's the hardcover. Here's the TPB http://www.amazon.com/Uncanny-X-Men-Vol-Manifest-Destiny/dp/0785124519/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256264992&sr=1-8
But it says it's coming out in November, for some reason.
2. Lovelorn. Collects Uncanny X-Men #504-507 & Annual.
http://www.amazon.com/Uncanny-X-Men-Vol-2-Lovelorn/dp/0785129995/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256264929&sr=8-1
3. Sisterhood. Collects Uncanny X-Men #508-512.
http://www.amazon.com/Uncanny-X-Men-Sisterhood-Matt-Fraction/dp/0785141057/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256264962&sr=1-2
4. Dark Avengers/Uncanny X-Men: Utopia (not out yet!).
Dr. Chaos
10-23-2009, 09:26 AM
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/10/23/the-blackest-side-of-deadpool-deadpool-noir-by-mike-benson/
Coming soon: Uncanny Deadpool, Mercenary Comics, Wade Tales, Deadpool: Origins, Deaad: Son of Deadpool, Crimson Comedian: Deadpool, Journey into Deadpool, Marvel Adventures Deadpool featuring guns that shoot beans, flags and water, Deadpool 2099 and Deadpool: The ironic eighth ongoing thats supposed to make fun of the other seven ongoings.
AMERICA DAVE
10-23-2009, 09:31 AM
1. Manifest Destiny. Collects Uncanny X-Men #500-503, X-Men Free Comic Book Day #1, and Manifest Destiny: Dazzler, Karma, Mercury/X-23, Colossus, Emma Frost, Graymalkin & Juggernaut.
http://www.amazon.com/Manifest-Destiny-Uncanny-X-Men-Vol/dp/078513817X/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256264929&sr=8-4
That's the hardcover. Here's the TPB http://www.amazon.com/Uncanny-X-Men-Vol-Manifest-Destiny/dp/0785124519/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256264992&sr=1-8
But it says it's coming out in November, for some reason.
2. Lovelorn. Collects Uncanny X-Men #504-507 & Annual.
http://www.amazon.com/Uncanny-X-Men-Vol-2-Lovelorn/dp/0785129995/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256264929&sr=8-1
3. Sisterhood. Collects Uncanny X-Men #508-512.
http://www.amazon.com/Uncanny-X-Men-Sisterhood-Matt-Fraction/dp/0785141057/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256264962&sr=1-2
4. Dark Avengers/Uncanny X-Men: Utopia (not out yet!).
Thanks!
RoShambo
10-23-2009, 09:57 AM
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/10/23/the-blackest-side-of-deadpool-deadpool-noir-by-mike-benson/
Coming soon: Uncanny Deadpool, Mercenary Comics, Wade Tales, Deadpool: Origins, Deaad: Son of Deadpool, Crimson Comedian: Deadpool, Journey into Deadpool, Marvel Adventures Deadpool featuring guns that shoot beans, flags and water, Deadpool 2099 and Deadpool: The ironic eighth ongoing thats supposed to make fun of the other seven ongoings.
SOLD!!:lol:
THWIP!
10-23-2009, 10:05 AM
i was just thinking with yost and kyle wrapping up their x-force run after the next crossover second coming ,,hoepfully we can have duane swierczinki move over to x-force, with cable, yost and kyle take over uncanny x-men and fraction either takes on thor or maybe a new avenger book. Fraction run has just been blah, not as bad as people say but nowhere as good as it could be, and this last mageto issue was just plain bad
I don't know what it is about Fraction and that book but I am just not a fan. And to me it's weird that I don't like his X-Men but love his Iron Man. At the beginning I thought it was just too cutesy. It was weird to see Wolverine refer and keep referring to someone as girly girl. And don't get me started on those captions. I fucking hate those things so much.
I think the book has gotten better since he started his run but nowhere near as good as when Brubaker was on, I enjoyed the hell out of his run. I just feel that with this current are it's going to be stretched out a lot. It's an 8 issue arc and the second issue came out and it read like this arc was going to take forever to get to the point.
I'm going to rough it out with Uncanny through the X-Over because I'm really pumped for that. But there's a good chance I'll be dropping the book after if Fraction is still on. But I'd love for Yost and Kyle to take over.
THWIP!
10-23-2009, 10:07 AM
Random question for the thread: Who are some of your favorite X-characters (X-Men, villains, supporting characters, etc) that are more obscure? For instance, not 'Magneto' or 'Wolverine', but more like 'Cypher' or 'Douglock' or 'Artie'.
For me, I'd say I always liked Caliban, Cameron Hodge, Deathbird, the Brood, Master Mold, Sauron, Freedom Force, and about three or four dozen others...
The whole team Mike Carey had pre Messiah CompleX. I love Ice Man, Mystique, Rouge, Cable, Canonball, Gambit, and X-23. Those are some of my favorite X-Men Characters.
Spidey616
10-23-2009, 10:18 AM
Some of next week's X Title previews
New Mutants #6 (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3661&disp=table)
Wolverine: Weapon X #6 (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3674&disp=table)
X-Factor #50 (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3675&disp=table)
X-Men Forever #10 (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3676&disp=table)
HOOKS
10-23-2009, 11:58 AM
I'm going to rough it out with Uncanny through the X-Over because I'm really pumped for that. But there's a good chance I'll be dropping the book after if Fraction is still on. But I'd love for Yost and Kyle to take over.
With Yost and Kyle leaving X-FORCE, and another creative line-up shake-up post-Second Coming, it wouldn't surprise me to see them take-over the book, or UNCANNY X-MEN becoming something akin to AMAZING SPIDER-MAN with a brain trust and revolving creative teams.
It wouldn't surprise me to see CABLE, NEW MUTANTS and maybe X-MEN LEGACY cancelled to allow for a weekly UNCANNY book. Mike Carey, Fraction, Yost, Kyle, and Zeb Wells as the brain trust, Swierczynski taking over X-FORCE, and Claremont, Ellis and David doing their thing on their respective titles. Considering UNCANNY is the top-selling X-Book and the Spider-Man project being a success, it'd make sense.
You'd still have your X-Men books that do different things for different audiences (ASTONISHING, X-FACTOR, X-FORCE, FOREVER, Whatever The New Title Is Going To Be Post-Second Coming), drop the books whose sales combined equal one issue of UNCANNY or ASTONISHING, while the top-selling book comes out multiple times a month and sells like hot-cakes.
Arion
10-23-2009, 09:04 PM
I don't know what it is about Fraction and that book but I am just not a fan. And to me it's weird that I don't like his X-Men but love his Iron Man. At the beginning I thought it was just too cutesy. It was weird to see Wolverine refer and keep referring to someone as girly girl. And don't get me started on those captions. I fucking hate those things so much.
I think the book has gotten better since he started his run but nowhere near as good as when Brubaker was on, I enjoyed the hell out of his run. I just feel that with this current are it's going to be stretched out a lot. It's an 8 issue arc and the second issue came out and it read like this arc was going to take forever to get to the point.
I'm going to rough it out with Uncanny through the X-Over because I'm really pumped for that. But there's a good chance I'll be dropping the book after if Fraction is still on. But I'd love for Yost and Kyle to take over.
Now I'm intrigued. I need to see a pic of those captions...
Spidey616
10-23-2009, 10:22 PM
New Steve Dillon pages for "X-Men: A Girl Named Hope"
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1256331549.jpg
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1256331551.jpg
HOOKS
10-24-2009, 12:55 PM
Chris Claremont's working on a new X-Title.
NEW MUTANTS FOREVER debuts in the Spring. Takes place right after his run ended, the two-part Hellions storyline in NEW MUTANTS #54 (I think).
joeAR
10-24-2009, 01:56 PM
I don't know what it is about Fraction and that book but I am just not a fan. And to me it's weird that I don't like his X-Men but love his Iron Man. At the beginning I thought it was just too cutesy. It was weird to see Wolverine refer and keep referring to someone as girly girl. And don't get me started on those captions. I fucking hate those things so much.
I think the book has gotten better since he started his run but nowhere near as good as when Brubaker was on, I enjoyed the hell out of his run. I just feel that with this current are it's going to be stretched out a lot. It's an 8 issue arc and the second issue came out and it read like this arc was going to take forever to get to the point.
I'm going to rough it out with Uncanny through the X-Over because I'm really pumped for that. But there's a good chance I'll be dropping the book after if Fraction is still on. But I'd love for Yost and Kyle to take over.
Ha, i've loved the captions. "Cyclops, owner of a jetpack." How is that not awesome?
Omega Flight
10-24-2009, 04:11 PM
With Yost and Kyle leaving X-FORCE, and another creative line-up shake-up post-Second Coming, it wouldn't surprise me to see them take-over the book, or UNCANNY X-MEN becoming something akin to AMAZING SPIDER-MAN with a brain trust and revolving creative teams.
It wouldn't surprise me to see CABLE, NEW MUTANTS and maybe X-MEN LEGACY cancelled to allow for a weekly UNCANNY book. Mike Carey, Fraction, Yost, Kyle, and Zeb Wells as the brain trust, Swierczynski taking over X-FORCE, and Claremont, Ellis and David doing their thing on their respective titles. Considering UNCANNY is the top-selling X-Book and the Spider-Man project being a success, it'd make sense.
You'd still have your X-Men books that do different things for different audiences (ASTONISHING, X-FACTOR, X-FORCE, FOREVER, Whatever The New Title Is Going To Be Post-Second Coming), drop the books whose sales combined equal one issue of UNCANNY or ASTONISHING, while the top-selling book comes out multiple times a month and sells like hot-cakes.
No it doesn't. Spider-Man is a single character, the X-Men line is full of myriad teams. Forcing the X-Men line into that situation makes it difficult for people let's say who want to buy X-Force but not New Mutants into buying a book they don't want.
And you realize how difficult it is to get out Spider-Man just thrice monthly right?
I don't know what it is about Fraction and that book but I am just not a fan. And to me it's weird that I don't like his X-Men but love his Iron Man. At the beginning I thought it was just too cutesy. It was weird to see Wolverine refer and keep referring to someone as girly girl. And don't get me started on those captions. I fucking hate those things so much.
I think the book has gotten better since he started his run but nowhere near as good as when Brubaker was on, I enjoyed the hell out of his run. I just feel that with this current are it's going to be stretched out a lot. It's an 8 issue arc and the second issue came out and it read like this arc was going to take forever to get to the point.
I'm going to rough it out with Uncanny through the X-Over because I'm really pumped for that. But there's a good chance I'll be dropping the book after if Fraction is still on. But I'd love for Yost and Kyle to take over.
Dude the captions are awesome nuff said. And I have to disagree Fraction's run is leaps and bounds better than Bru's run. It actually feels fun.
Robert James
10-24-2009, 11:44 PM
Fraction's run just really hasn't kept my interest, while I've been *loving* X-Force. But Uncanny has just felt really average since issue #500, so I've dropped it after Utopia. I've really enjoyed Carey's run but Acuna's art just doesn't do much for me, especially on an X-Men title.
THWIP!
10-24-2009, 11:49 PM
Fraction's run just really hasn't kept my interest, while I've been *loving* X-Force. But Uncanny has just felt really average since issue #500, so I've dropped it after Utopia. I've really enjoyed Carey's run but Acuna's art just doesn't do much for me, especially on an X-Men title.
Me and you are on the same wave length.
THWIP!
10-24-2009, 11:54 PM
Dude the captions are awesome nuff said. And I have to disagree Fraction's run is leaps and bounds better than Bru's run. It actually feels fun.
The way I feel about the captions is my opinion. I hate them so I skip over them in the comics, nuff said.
I'd like to know why you think that Fraction on the book is better than Brubaker other than you just saying it's more fun and you it's leaps and bounds better. That doesn't mean anything to me. Why is it better?
THWIP!
10-24-2009, 11:59 PM
With Yost and Kyle leaving X-FORCE, and another creative line-up shake-up post-Second Coming, it wouldn't surprise me to see them take-over the book, or UNCANNY X-MEN becoming something akin to AMAZING SPIDER-MAN with a brain trust and revolving creative teams.
It wouldn't surprise me to see CABLE, NEW MUTANTS and maybe X-MEN LEGACY cancelled to allow for a weekly UNCANNY book. Mike Carey, Fraction, Yost, Kyle, and Zeb Wells as the brain trust, Swierczynski taking over X-FORCE, and Claremont, Ellis and David doing their thing on their respective titles. Considering UNCANNY is the top-selling X-Book and the Spider-Man project being a success, it'd make sense.
You'd still have your X-Men books that do different things for different audiences (ASTONISHING, X-FACTOR, X-FORCE, FOREVER, Whatever The New Title Is Going To Be Post-Second Coming), drop the books whose sales combined equal one issue of UNCANNY or ASTONISHING, while the top-selling book comes out multiple times a month and sells like hot-cakes.
I don't know man. I think it all works fine right now. And as cool as it would be to have a 3x a month X-Men book I think ithe main reason that it works with Spider-Man is because it's his book and his book only. With the X-Men, there are a lot of them, especially now since they all live in the same place. It would just be too much.
HOOKS
10-25-2009, 03:23 AM
No it doesn't. Spider-Man is a single character, the X-Men line is full of myriad teams. Forcing the X-Men line into that situation makes it difficult for people let's say who want to buy X-Force but not New Mutants into buying a book they don't want.
No one said anything about merging books with different themes together, but rather taking the place in the publication schedule if some books are canceled. And UNCANNY X-MEN would be a good filler for NEW MUTANTS - and since there is going to be a new Chris Claremont New Mutants book in late Spring, I chose that one to use as an example of a canceled book, since I really don't see the market supporting two New Mutants books.
Besides, the X-Men line is going to be different post-SC, so we don't know the direction of any
And you realize how difficult it is to get out Spider-Man just thrice monthly right?
No, of course I don't, which is why I didn't list a possible brain-trust of writers or even think about the fact that UNCANNY X-MEN was bi-weekly with just one writer for a long time. :lol:
I don't know man. I think it all works fine right now. And as cool as it would be to have a 3x a month X-Men book I think ithe main reason that it works with Spider-Man is because it's his book and his book only. With the X-Men, there are a lot of them, especially now since they all live in the same place. It would just be too much.
Part of my thinking, other than sales, also lies in the fact that since the X-Men today are essentially The Mutant Population ("We're all X-Men now"), you could have different arcs featuring different teams of X-Men. Not books with different directions like X-FACTOR or X-FORCE, but actual teams of X-Men.
It wouldn't even need to be three times a month. Twice a month would work just as well, as Claremont has done before, and as Fraction has stated in the past he would love to see happen at some point.
Howlett
10-25-2009, 05:28 AM
Me and you are on the same wave length.
So YOU two are the voices I've been hearing that were agreeing with me! :shock:
The way I feel about the captions is my opinion. I hate them so I skip over them in the comics, nuff said.
I'd like to know why you think that Fraction on the book is better than Brubaker other than you just saying it's more fun and you it's leaps and bounds better. That doesn't mean anything to me. Why is it better?
I'm with you dude. Those captions are annoying as fuck. And Bru's run was waaaaaaay better than Fraction's. I'm enjoying his work on Iron Man and other stuff I've read of his, but his X-Men just isn't doing it for me at all. Bru made me care about the X-Men in space for god sake! Fraction hasn't really made me care about anyone so far. I think the only arc I've enjoyed much so far was Utopia.
Though, a small part of that is the art for his run too. Land and Dodson just don't work for me on this book at all.
ValeriaK
10-25-2009, 08:06 AM
Fraction has this little problem called "incorrect characterization". Never in a million would Storm have snapped at Emma like she did post Utopia just because, or simply agree to Scott's plan to do what Magneto always wanted to do, nor Charles would have snapped at Magneto simply by seeing him after he had fully reconciled with him in Legacy... He should read a little more about the characters he's writing before writing them I guess.
joeAR
10-25-2009, 08:11 AM
Fraction has this little problem called "incorrect characterization". Never in a million would Storm have snapped at Emma like she did post Utopia just because, or simply agree to Scott's plan to do what Magneto always wanted to do, nor Charles would have snapped at Magneto simply by seeing him after he had fully reconciled with him in Legacy... He should read a little more about the characters he's writing before writing them I guess.
Yes but that was before Charles knew about Magneto "attacking" the X-Men in #500.
ValeriaK
10-25-2009, 08:20 AM
that doesn't really make sense, suddenly he is going to attack someone he considers a friend because of what he is told secondhand without allowing him to explain himself? sorry but those few words at the beginning of last issue didn't sound like they were Charles' words at all (plus Land's horrible art didn't help)
Fake Pat
10-25-2009, 08:32 AM
Fraction has this little problem called "incorrect characterization". Never in a million would Storm have snapped at Emma like she did post Utopia just because, or simply agree to Scott's plan to do what Magneto always wanted to do, nor Charles would have snapped at Magneto simply by seeing him after he had fully reconciled with him in Legacy... He should read a little more about the characters he's writing before writing them I guess.
If the argument over what a character would do comes down to "I (some random person) don't think character X would do Y" versus "I (writer/editor/etc who actually gets to decide what character X would do) think character X would do Y", which is exactly what's happening here, the random person is flat-out incorrect.
Sorry.
Matthew Brown
10-25-2009, 08:39 AM
that doesn't really make sense, suddenly he is going to attack someone he considers a friend because of what he is told secondhand without allowing him to explain himself? sorry but those few words at the beginning of last issue didn't sound like they were Charles' words at all (plus Land's horrible art didn't help)
I would think it'd be like if he accepted an addict's tearful promise to get clean, and then heard later he was on some street corner offering blowjobs for enough money for a fix. Mags may act like a decent human being every once and a while, but he always does the cackling supervillain thing as soon as you turn your back on him. And even if he was my best friend, I sure as hell wouldn't want him in my house at this point.
rwsmith
10-25-2009, 08:40 AM
Man, a weekly or even thrice monthly Uncanny X-men written by Kyle, Yost, Carey and Fraction sounds awesome to me! With it coming out that frequently they could easily rotate the cast from arc to arc and get everyone some significant panel time IMO. One arc written by Kyle & Yost might revolve around Cyclops, Emma, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Storm, Angel and X-23. Then the next written by Carey is Rogue, Cable, Iceman, Cannonball, Psylocke and Colossus. The next is Fraction who uses Cyclops, Emma, Beast, Northstar, Dazzler, Armor and Namor. And so on and so forth. It would be great IMO.
And moving both Duane Swiercynski and Cable over to X-Force would be great too. He could go back to leading the proactive mutant strike force with Domino, Warpath, Archangel, Psylocke, Elixir and Cloak and Dagger. Something like that. I figure by the end of Kyle and Yost's run on X-Force Wolverine will have finallly put his foot down and decided that X-23 needs to get away from all of the hardcore violence and try to be human again, so I replaced her with Psylocke. And Cloak would replace Vanisher as the team's transport (since you can't keep the guy around and dying from a brain tumor forever, right?), and of course Dagger just comes along with him. Works for me.
GrandMaster Funk
10-25-2009, 09:41 AM
Fraction's run just really hasn't kept my interest, while I've been *loving* X-Force. But Uncanny has just felt really average since issue #500, so I've dropped it after Utopia. I've really enjoyed Carey's run but Acuna's art just doesn't do much for me, especially on an X-Men title.
I think Acuna's art is the perfect fit for an X-book, I'm loving it.
Also put me in the camp that's against making Uncanny three issues a month book. I prefer the idea of separate X-squads.
Raydawggie
10-25-2009, 11:54 AM
If the argument over what a character would do comes down to "I (some random person) don't think character X would do Y" versus "I (writer/editor/etc who actually gets to decide what character X would do) think character X would do Y", which is exactly what's happening here, the random person is flat-out incorrect.
Sorry.
But that's not what's happening here.
This is prior appearances showing one thing, vs. the current appearance showing another. I totally agree with you on creator-owned properties, but it's entirely possible for a writer on a continuous property to get something flat-out wrong.
Fake Pat
10-25-2009, 11:56 AM
But that's not what's happening here.
This is prior appearances showing one thing, vs. the current appearance showing another. I totally agree with you on creator-owned properties, but it's entirely possible for a writer on a continuous property to get something flat-out wrong.
Has any amount of time passed in between?
Raydawggie
10-25-2009, 12:01 PM
Has any amount of time passed in between?
Depends. Some cases, yes, although it's hard to tell how much with comics.
Regardless, unless there was some kind of trigger to change things, it seemed out of step. In the case of Xavier and Magneto, it was directly contradictory of their last appearance on page together.
I think that's the better term, actually. Contradictory, not out-of-character.
HomerGator
10-25-2009, 12:09 PM
Personally, I'm digging all of the X-books that I'm reading (Uncanny, Legacy, X-Force, X-Factor, Wolverine:Origins). I think they're all really good, but they're also all really different (which is so great for someone like myself that grew up reading them in the late 80's early 90's).
Omega Flight
10-25-2009, 12:27 PM
The way I feel about the captions is my opinion. I hate them so I skip over them in the comics, nuff said.
I'd like to know why you think that Fraction on the book is better than Brubaker other than you just saying it's more fun and you it's leaps and bounds better. That doesn't mean anything to me. Why is it better?
That's true. I was mostly messin with my own opinion.
As for what I enjoy about Fractions. I dunno the characterization I enjoy moreso, along with the art (save Greg Land) and the story situations.
Dr. Chaos
10-28-2009, 10:21 AM
Marvel's Sr Sales VP on Deadpool's rise to mini and ongoing tyranny:
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/091028-gabriel-diamond.html
March's Deadpool Corps 5th week event, which will feature one-shots starring Deadpool, Lady Deadpool (introduced in Merc with a Mouth #7), the new Kid Deadpool, Headpool (the zombie head of Deadpool), and Dogpool, the Deadpool dog, respectively, will all feature a $2.99 cover price (at least that was the plan at the time of the interview).
Gabriel then spoke about the rising popularity of Deadpool and the fact that everything Marvel is publishing featuring the character is selling out.
"I think nearly every single issue of Deadpool since we relaunched it last year has sold out," he said. "The 'Suicide Kings' stuff all sold out. We went back to press on three or four of those books. Deadpool: Merc with a Mouth is all sold out, and we went back to press with the first two of those. I imagine Deadpool #900 will sell out by the time this interview goes up.
"And I also announced, kind of as a joke, that since a lot of people didn’t get to read Deadpool #800, we’ll be going back to press on that sometime next year, too. The never-before-seen reprint of Deadpool #800."
Gabriel credited editor Axel Alonso "claiming" the character and investing in him as keys to his rise.
"Deadpool was all by himself, and when he came back and it was big, we decided we were just going to push the limits with him a little bit, and that’s paid off. Then the announcement for the Deadpool movie, I believe, came out right after our announcement of Deadpool: Merc with a Mouth – and we haven’t heard anything new about the movie – but that kind of opened the flood gates even more.
"And it doesn’t hurt when people are putting out quality books people want to read. I’ve heard, even from people that confess Deadpool isn’t their favorite character, that they’ve been loving his stuff right now. And if you look at the Classic Deadpool trades right now, they’ve been far outselling other Classic trades.
"It doesn’t make sense not to capitalize on that right now. Someone shouted out, 'Why?' after the Deadpool Corps announcement at the Summit. And I jokingly shouted back, 'Because it’s making you money.'"
Nice preview art of the Deadpool Corps in the link with Kid Deadpool rocking dual lightsabers (!). Don't know if we've seen that piece before yet.
RoShambo
10-28-2009, 12:43 PM
Marvel's Sr Sales VP on Deadpool's rise to mini and ongoing tyranny:
Nice preview art of the Deadpool Corps in the link with Kid Deadpool rocking dual lightsabers (!). Don't know if we've seen that piece before yet.
You forgot the link, but the pic's been posted in one of the Deadpool threads.
Not sure about in this thread though. (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/091028-gabriel-diamond.html)
Spidey616
10-28-2009, 12:51 PM
Speaking of Deadpool, this week's X-Factor #50 Letter Column PAD hints at a strong possibility of DP making an appearance. SIRYN + WADE! :)
Dr. Chaos
10-28-2009, 12:51 PM
Ah. Sorry about that.
*fixed*
When we finally get an official Deadpool thread, can we name it Wade's DPU mega tangled thread and friends?
RoShambo
10-28-2009, 02:23 PM
Ah. Sorry about that.
*fixed*
When we finally get an official Deadpool thread, can we name it Wade's DPU mega tangled thread and friends?
I brought it up in another thread.
We probably should set up an Official Deadpool Thread.
There are at least 7 Deadpool-related threads that have been posted in this month(in other words they're active), and I see some duplication between them.
Arion
10-28-2009, 06:01 PM
Speaking of Deadpool, this week's X-Factor #50 Letter Column PAD hints at a strong possibility of DP making an appearance. SIRYN + WADE! :)
That could be fun .
Spidey616
10-28-2009, 11:19 PM
Based on the preview for X-Factor #200 in this week's issue, it's gonna be awesome!
Guido "So Shatterstar you like Gladiator movies? Why am I not surprised." :)
UltimateFactor
10-29-2009, 04:26 AM
I....had no idea...Nate Grey was coming back. FUCK I need to finish off these remodel payments so I can get back into comics!! :surrend:
HomerGator
10-29-2009, 08:20 PM
I just caught up on the last few issues of X-Factor yesterday, and I have to say I really liked the way PAD tied up the loose plot thread of Jamie's second dupe from Messiah Complex we never heard from again. Still not sure what I think about the Layla revelations.
Dr. Chaos
11-03-2009, 05:16 PM
Girscher's Crisis of Infinite Deadpools:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23563
X-Position: Peter David
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23573
Guess who has been making Siryn feel good? :)
I can't think of anybody better to have "my baby was just killed by being absorbed by his father" rebound sex.
Spidey616
11-03-2009, 07:39 PM
Awesome! Can't wait for some X-Factor Deadpool action :)
Also up at IGN The Final Days of Dark Reign (http://comics.ign.com/articles/104/1040899p2.html) with Emma Frost and Namor and UXM #518 preview art
http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/104/1040899/the-final-days-of-dark-reign-20091103020817678.jpg
http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/104/1040899/the-final-days-of-dark-reign-20091103020819709.jpg
http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/104/1040899/the-final-days-of-dark-reign-20091103020811850.jpg
http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/104/1040899/the-final-days-of-dark-reign-20091103020813631.jpg
http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/104/1040899/the-final-days-of-dark-reign-20091103020815600.jpg
The Kiai
11-03-2009, 08:54 PM
Just in case any of you Deadpool fans are interested:
http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=184855
joeAR
11-04-2009, 07:44 AM
Congradulations to Kyle, Yost, and Zeb Wells for making Doug Ramsey interesting to me in well ever.
Arion
11-04-2009, 07:48 AM
Based on the preview for X-Factor #200 in this week's issue, it's gonna be awesome!
Guido "So Shatterstar you like Gladiator movies? Why am I not surprised." :)
I'm sure it's going to be great .
leviathan
11-04-2009, 07:51 AM
Congradulations to Kyle, Yost, and Zeb Wells for making Doug Ramsey interesting to me in well ever.
I've always been a Cypher fan, but yeah - these three have made him an incredibly awesome character in the span of a mere 3 issues. Really looking forward to seeing where this storyline goes.
Arion
11-04-2009, 07:59 AM
I always thought I was the only Doug Ramsey fan. I just absolutely loved that character back then...
leviathan
11-04-2009, 08:16 AM
I always thought I was the only Doug Ramsey fan. I just absolutely loved that character back then...
We should form a club! Doug and Illyana were the two characters I missed the most after Fall of the Mutants and Inferno basically took them off the map. Its great to see both of them back.
Spidey616
11-04-2009, 08:17 AM
Jason Pearson preview art for the upcoming X-Force Annual
Exclusive First Look: X-FORCE ANNUAL #1 (http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=31696)
http://i.newsarama.com/images/XFORCE020B001_col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/XFORCE020B003_col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/XFORCE020B005_col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/XFORCE020B009_col.jpg
MabusRex
11-04-2009, 10:19 AM
Jason Pearson preview art for the upcoming X-Force Annual
Exclusive First Look: X-FORCE ANNUAL #1 (http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=31696)
Why call it an X-Force annual if it's a Wolverine solo adventure? Bah!
I do like the backup, "Undeadpool". heh.
Howlett
11-04-2009, 10:28 AM
Jason Pearson preview art for the upcoming X-Force Annual
Exclusive First Look: X-FORCE ANNUAL #1 (http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=31696)
http://i.newsarama.com/images/XFORCE020B001_col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/XFORCE020B003_col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/XFORCE020B005_col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/XFORCE020B009_col.jpg
Not bad, but that is one horrible panel of Warpath. Looking forward to the issue though. More X-Force is always more gooderer.
Spidey616
11-05-2009, 09:27 AM
X-Force #21 Preview (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3758&disp=table)
artimoff
11-05-2009, 09:46 AM
We should form a club! Doug and Illyana were the two characters I missed the most after Fall of the Mutants and Inferno basically took them off the map. Its great to see both of them back.
Yes, Doug & Illyana were the reasons I read New Mutants after Bill Siefjqhjfkdjkfdth left.
MabusRex
11-05-2009, 09:46 AM
I had completely forgot that many of those characters were dead. This is going to be brutal!
GrandMaster Funk
11-05-2009, 09:55 AM
I had completely forgot that many of those characters were dead. This is going to be brutal!
I think a few them weren't even really dead before this event. Like Shinobi Shaw
WhindamPryce
11-05-2009, 01:15 PM
Jason Pearson preview art for the upcoming X-Force Annual
Exclusive First Look: X-FORCE ANNUAL #1 (http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=31696)
http://i.newsarama.com/images/XFORCE020B001_col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/XFORCE020B003_col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/XFORCE020B005_col.jpg
http://i.newsarama.com/images/XFORCE020B009_col.jpg
Not a fan of the art. But I loves me some X-Force, so I'm there.
Spidey616
11-05-2009, 01:56 PM
Dark X-Men #1 PREVIEW (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3760&disp=table)
Love the identity Mystique uses on that last page :)
panco
11-05-2009, 02:10 PM
Dark X-Men #1 PREVIEW (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3760&disp=table)
Love the identity Mystique uses on that last page :)
Hope this one isn't coming too late.
It will span on four issues so there will be Dark X-Men and some Siege at the same time. It will be strange having one story unfolding on one side (Dark X-Men) and another finishing on another (well the whole Dark reign).
Matthew Brown
11-05-2009, 02:46 PM
Dark X-Men #1 PREVIEW (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3760&disp=table)
Love the identity Mystique uses on that last page :)
I'm so excited!
Arion
11-05-2009, 07:13 PM
We should form a club! Doug and Illyana were the two characters I missed the most after Fall of the Mutants and Inferno basically took them off the map. Its great to see both of them back.
It will be an exclusive club .
The first New Mutant story I read was the Asgardian Wars annual, written by Claremont with art by Arthur Adams. I absolutely loved that issue, I was instantly a fan of the title. And, of course, for some reason I can't really explain, Doug was my favorite character.
Kurt Russell Crowe
11-06-2009, 01:26 AM
Whats up with them doing this Necrosha thing in the middle of Blackest Night? Seems really odd.
joeAR
11-06-2009, 06:25 AM
Whats up with them doing this Necrosha thing in the middle of Blackest Night? Seems really odd.
Halloween. Odd timing, yes, but Kyle and Yost have been planting seeds for it since they took over New X-Men 3 years ago.
joeAR
11-06-2009, 06:37 AM
Not sure if it's been posted but preview of X-Force 21
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3758&disp=table
Arion
11-06-2009, 12:54 PM
Halloween. Odd timing, yes, but Kyle and Yost have been planting seeds for it since they took over New X-Men 3 years ago.
Indeed .
Santana
11-06-2009, 08:49 PM
Senyaka is a very visually appealing character. Clayton Crain draws him even better than Joe Q did.
HomerGator
11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
Necrosha was really great, as expected. Excellent job all around. BUT...
HOLY BALLS! Astonishing X-Men!
artimoff
11-06-2009, 11:11 PM
Not sure if it's been posted but preview of X-Force 21
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3758&disp=table
Rusty is dead? When did that happen? And I forgot that Stonewall & Super Sabre even existed.
Howlett
11-07-2009, 05:12 AM
Rusty is dead? When did that happen? And I forgot that Stonewall & Super Sabre even existed.
Haven't read the preview but I'm assuming you're talking about Rusty Collins? He was killed by Holocaust in X-Men 42 (I think. It was the issue just after the Age of Apocalypse).
Foggy's Pal
11-07-2009, 05:37 AM
Necrosha was really great, as expected. Excellent job all around. BUT...
HOLY BALLS! Astonishing X-Men!
From this I take it you like Astonishing? I keep hearing bad things about it. I'm just now finishing Ghost Boxes, and i love it. Not sure what all the complaints are about. (I could see the art being an issue, as always) Everyone hear enjoy it? Dislike it?
Howlett
11-07-2009, 05:59 AM
From this I take it you like Astonishing? I keep hearing bad things about it. I'm just now finishing Ghost Boxes, and i love it. Not sure what all the complaints are about. (I could see the art being an issue, as always) Everyone hear enjoy it? Dislike it?
I'm think the last two issues have been okay, but still suffer from Ellis's dialogue. I hated the first arc. Dialogue aside, it started okay enough but by about the midway point I was bored to tears and when it got to the issue with the reveal as to who the big bad was, that was painful to read. Couple that with the bullshit they pulled with the 2 issue Ghost Boxes mini and I really don't have fond thoughts at all for that opening arc.
If he could just quit it with making every character sound like they're trying (and failing) to sound like one of his original creations, I think the current arc might actually have a bit more promise.
artimoff
11-07-2009, 08:28 AM
Haven't read the preview but I'm assuming you're talking about Rusty Collins? He was killed by Holocaust in X-Men 42 (I think. It was the issue just after the Age of Apocalypse).
Ah.. I stopped reading X-Men ( for the most part) when Claremont took Kurt & Kitty of fthe team & only came back when Joe Kelly & Steven Segal were the writing team.
joeAR
11-07-2009, 08:36 AM
From this I take it you like Astonishing? I keep hearing bad things about it. I'm just now finishing Ghost Boxes, and i love it. Not sure what all the complaints are about. (I could see the art being an issue, as always) Everyone hear enjoy it? Dislike it?
I wasn't a fan of Ellis's first arc but the past 2 issues have been great, IMO.
Cardinal Braxiatel
11-07-2009, 10:18 AM
I don't get the Uncanny hate. I'm loving this book so much more than I was with Brubaker at the helm. As far as the Mags bowing to Scott, I can see it. Scott has accomplished what Mags has been trying to accomplish for over 500 issues! It was a public display of Magneto admitting that Scott has become bigger than he and Charles were; that he is the third option to the Xavier or Mageto question. It's not like he was bowing to Cyclops in subservience. He was just showing the X-Men he wasn't there for a fight, as he was showing Scott respect. People making such a big deal...
Besides, it's not like he's not going to do some crazy shit down the line.
I have to agree that the book is better without Brubaker. His Cap run proves he can handle a large ensemble but he was piss poor at handling a team. There's a difference. His issues were too static and boring and the pacing of his arc was like sleepwalking. I liked some of his concepts but started dreading each new issue.
Cardinal Braxiatel
11-07-2009, 10:19 AM
Chris Claremont's working on a new X-Title.
NEW MUTANTS FOREVER debuts in the Spring. Takes place right after his run ended, the two-part Hellions storyline in NEW MUTANTS #54 (I think).
Oh god, yes! Hopefully we'll have Doug Ramsey there too. I loved the world's most useless mutant. He and Ilyana were also my fave NM's...
Foggy's Pal
11-07-2009, 03:49 PM
I'm think the last two issues have been okay, but still suffer from Ellis's dialogue. I hated the first arc. Dialogue aside, it started okay enough but by about the midway point I was bored to tears and when it got to the issue with the reveal as to who the big bad was, that was painful to read. Couple that with the bullshit they pulled with the 2 issue Ghost Boxes mini and I really don't have fond thoughts at all for that opening arc.
If he could just quit it with making every character sound like they're trying (and failing) to sound like one of his original creations, I think the current arc might actually have a bit more promise.
I enjoy the dialogue, and for the most part am only a few years into really reading X-men, so I wouldn't really know if the character sounds right or not. I've only read, X-Factor-all of PAD, X-Men Legacy, Young X-Men, Uncanny under Fraction, and a few assorted current X books. Without all the prior knowledge, this is a fun read.
Spidey616
11-10-2009, 08:49 PM
X-POSITION: Nick Lowe (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23668)
Plus some great Dodson and Land art for UXM!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1257891950.jpg
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1257892233.jpg
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1257892253.jpg
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1257892376.jpg
Matthew Brown
11-11-2009, 03:33 PM
I loved Dark X-Men. X-Man is back, baby! Hopefully for good.
Cardinal Braxiatel
11-11-2009, 05:41 PM
I have decided to forgive Bianchi for that painfully awful art on Astonishing because of how amazing the art looks for the cover of Dark X-Men #2...
Foggy's Pal
11-11-2009, 05:56 PM
Still fairly new to many X-characters, but I've really enjoyed the first 2 parts of Necrosha. It is some crazy goodness.
Spidey616
11-12-2009, 02:39 PM
Nation X: Birth of a Nation (http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10271.Nation_X~colon~_Birth_of_a_Nati on)
Some great talent and stories involved.
http://marvel.com/i/content/10271new_storyimage-38059186%7C527.0092226614x800.jpg
http://marvel.com/i/content/10271new_storyimage-48059190%7C523.36448598131x800.jpg
http://marvel.com/i/content/10271new_storyimage-58059191%7C522.53429131287x800.jpg
http://marvel.com/i/content/10271new_storyimage-68059194%7C520.83333333333x800.jpg
http://marvel.com/i/content/10271new_storyimage-78059195%7C513.80860629416x800.jpg
joeAR
11-12-2009, 03:36 PM
Nation X: Birth of a Nation (http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10271.Nation_X~colon~_Birth_of_a_Nati on)
Some great talent and stories involved.
http://marvel.com/i/content/10271new_storyimage-38059186%7C527.0092226614x800.jpg
http://marvel.com/i/content/10271new_storyimage-48059190%7C523.36448598131x800.jpg
http://marvel.com/i/content/10271new_storyimage-58059191%7C522.53429131287x800.jpg
http://marvel.com/i/content/10271new_storyimage-68059194%7C520.83333333333x800.jpg
http://marvel.com/i/content/10271new_storyimage-78059195%7C513.80860629416x800.jpg
Don't know about you but I would be terrified if Colossus ran up to me in his armored form.
HomerGator
11-12-2009, 04:01 PM
I'm suprised we haven't had a scene with Wolverine freaking out about Mags hanging out.
Arion
11-12-2009, 07:12 PM
I have to agree that the book is better without Brubaker. His Cap run proves he can handle a large ensemble but he was piss poor at handling a team. There's a difference. His issues were too static and boring and the pacing of his arc was like sleepwalking. I liked some of his concepts but started dreading each new issue.
I totally understand it. Anyway, Brubaker always needs a lot of issues to tell a story .
Spidey616
11-13-2009, 08:21 PM
Some early X solicits up at superpouvoir.com
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/Superpouvoir/Previews7/57384new_storyimage-27955010%7C527111.jpg
NEW MUTANTS #10
COVER BY: Adam Kubert
WRITER: Zeb Wells
PENCILS: Paul Davidson
Why do the New Mutants exist? Why are they a team? Cyclops runs the X-Men as one giant army, not separate squads. So, why do the New Mutants exist as a squad? The answer isn’t what you expect. Rated T …$2.99
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/Superpouvoir/Previews7/62574new_storyimage-27954911%7C527111.jpg
DARK X-MEN #4
COVER BY: Mike Choi
WRITER: Paul Cornell
PENCILS: Leonard Kirk
INKS: Jay Leisten
COLORED BY: Brian Reber
LETTERED BY: Robert Steen
What has X-Man done to Norman Osborn? Whatever it is, it must be extreme because the Dark X-Men are making a journey into Osborn’s mind to fix it! But once they’re in, can they survive the depths of madness they find in the dark corners of Norman’s mental minefield? Rated T …$3.99
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ASTONISHING X-MEN #34
COVER BY: Phil Jimenez
WRITER: Warren Ellis
PENCILS: Phil Jimenez
THE STORY:
“eXogenetic” Part 4 Gruesome Bio-Sentinels. Genetically-augmented Brood. Someone is taking the X-Men’s biggest threats and making them nightmares. As Cyclops and his team struggle to survive long enough to confront the one responsible, their tormentor has something even more horrible awaiting them! Rated T …$2.99
IN STORES: February 10, 2010
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S.W.O.R.D. #4
COVER BY: Michael Del Mundo
WRITER: KIERON GILLEN
PENCILS: Steven Sanders
THE STORY:
Beast, Brand and her crew face an assult on multiple fronts as they go on the run and STILL have stop more than one alien insurgency. Can they upend Gyrich’s plot and stop the invasions in one fell swoop? Rated A …$2.99
IN STORES: February 10, 2010
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X-MEN: PIXIE STRIKES BACK #1
COVER BY: Stuart Immonen
WRITER: Kathryn Immonen
PENCILS: Sara Pichelli
INKS: Sara Pichelli
COLORED BY: Christina Strain
LETTERED BY: Robert Steen
Pixie, X-23, Armor, Mercury and Blindfold face a new kind of hell: high school! Things get even worse when Pixie’s mother shows up on Utopia demanding to see her daughter. Discover the truth about Pixie, inculding the answer to something even SHE doesn’t know: the identity of her father- one of the most dangerous X-Villains ever! Rated A …$3.99
The Kiai
11-13-2009, 09:32 PM
I'm in love with that New Mutants cover.
I want to take it behind the gym and get it pregnant. :heybaby:
HomerGator
11-14-2009, 05:28 PM
Great covers! I'm curious to see the X-Factor, X-Force, Uncanny X-Men, etc. ones.
So, who do we think is Pixie's father?
RoShambo
11-14-2009, 06:39 PM
Great covers! I'm curious to see the X-Factor, X-Force, Uncanny X-Men, etc. ones.
So, who do we think is Pixie's father?
Holocaust/Nemesis, I think?
marco19
11-14-2009, 07:10 PM
all signs from the recent hulk interview last few sentences on CBR point to whilce portacio being the artist for the next arc of AStonishing x-men, , him and w ellis have a good working relationship back from their run on x-force 6 or 7 years ago
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23703
HomerGator
11-14-2009, 10:54 PM
Holocaust/Nemesis, I think?
What makes you say that?
Cardinal Braxiatel
11-15-2009, 06:44 AM
Didn't the writer give the clue according to the color of Pixie's dad? From what I recall, this fits...
Zac Goyette
11-15-2009, 08:11 AM
That New Mutants cover is badass, and so is the Dark X-Men cover.
Marcdachamp
11-15-2009, 08:56 AM
Finally got a copy of X-Men: The List. So glad I did, I loved it. I really like Namor as an X-Man. The last scene between him and Osborn was perfect. A great "Superman and Luthor" type scene.
RoShambo
11-15-2009, 09:10 AM
What makes you say that?
Didn't the writer give the clue according to the color of Pixie's dad? From what I recall, this fits...
This. :)
Yeah, I remember there was an interview and they said something about him being a 8'2" tall yellow Xmen villian(or something like that?).
If you go back a bunch of pages in this thread, we discussed it a little bit.
From one of my earlier posts:
Holocaust/Nemesis?
:D
That was my first thought also.
I poked around a little, and found Marvel.com has his height listed as 6'3", but comicvine has:
Characteristics
Height:6'3" (unarmored);7'9"(armored)
Weight:269 lbs(unarmored);789 lbs(armored)
Eyes:Blue(nemesis);Red(holocaust).
Hair:Blond(nemesis);Bald(Holocaust)
I think he's our best bet.
Spidey616
11-16-2009, 09:19 AM
ADVANCE X-SOLICITATIONS, FEBRUARY 2010 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23727)
Foggy's Pal
11-18-2009, 03:32 AM
Getting caught up with the titles. Just finished the Utopia crossover- really liked it, really like the way Scott was handled.
Question: Beast is in horrible shape in Utopia, losing his power, his fur, etc. Is it explained how he is just fine in the issues that follow Utopia? Did I miss an issue?
Spidey616
11-18-2009, 09:04 AM
Not really, I think Fraction addressed it somewhere saying that the effects of the Omega Machine are just temporary hence why he's back to full health.
Arion
11-18-2009, 05:17 PM
I'm in love with that New Mutants cover.
I want to take it behind the gym and get it pregnant. :heybaby:
It's one of Kubert's best covers.
Fake Pat
11-18-2009, 05:21 PM
all signs from the recent hulk interview last few sentences on CBR point to whilce portacio being the artist for the next arc of AStonishing x-men, , him and w ellis have a good working relationship back from their run on x-force 6 or 7 years ago
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23703
I really hope you're wrong.
Santana
11-18-2009, 05:21 PM
Can someone give me a synopsis of the xbooks since they moved to California? The only books I have paid attention to are Cable and X-force since that happened.
Cardinal Braxiatel
11-18-2009, 07:01 PM
Time passed. Beast healed. It's a symptom of how plot driven Uncanny's become. None of these characters have any kind of a life anymore besides what is thrown at them battle-wise. I realized today that I can't recall any character moments from the series in quite some time that don't involve Emma, Doctor Nemesis, and Scott. Colossus and Pixie had a brief moment each last year but that's about it...
rwsmith
11-18-2009, 07:05 PM
all signs from the recent hulk interview last few sentences on CBR point to whilce portacio being the artist for the next arc of AStonishing x-men, , him and w ellis have a good working relationship back from their run on x-force 6 or 7 years ago
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23703
I actually thought he was probably going to be jumping on a revamped X-Force after 'Second Coming,' probably with Cable being folded into that book (and perhaps Duane Swiercynski writing it). Just my theory. But it could be Astonishing with Ellis as well. He and Jiminez alternating every arc would be cool in my book.
Santana
11-18-2009, 07:14 PM
Time passed. Beast healed. It's a symptom of how plot driven Uncanny's become. None of these characters have any kind of a life anymore besides what is thrown at them battle-wise. I realized today that I can't recall any character moments from the series in quite some time that don't involve Emma, Doctor Nemesis, and Scott. Colossus and Pixie had a brief moment each last year but that's about it...
Who is Doctor Nemesis?
Andres Pacheco
11-18-2009, 07:17 PM
Who is Doctor Nemesis?
I dont know if you've read the latest X-force but he's the guy in the white suit taking care of X-23.
Santana
11-18-2009, 07:19 PM
I dont know if you've read the latest X-force but he's the guy in the white suit taking care of X-23.
Not yet. Will look into that.
SpecialK
11-18-2009, 07:22 PM
Who is Doctor Nemesis?
I think he created the Human Torch? I'd have to go back and read when they recruit him. He's always in a white suit with a white hat.
GrandMaster Funk
11-18-2009, 07:23 PM
Who is Doctor Nemesis?
He invented the original Human Torch. Beast recruited him as part of his super science team.
THWIP!
11-18-2009, 07:26 PM
I loved Dark X-Men. X-Man is back, baby! Hopefully for good.
Seriously? That book was terrible.
THWIP!
11-18-2009, 07:29 PM
I didn't know Warren Ellis was going to continue his run on AXM after the Jimenez arc. I thought he was just doing 12 issues. I haven't been in love with his run, so depending on who draws it depends if I stick around.
The Kiai
11-18-2009, 07:29 PM
He invented the original Human Torch. Beast recruited him as part of his super science team.
Phineas Horton is Dr. Nemesis???? :mistrust:
SpecialK
11-18-2009, 07:31 PM
Phineas Horton is Dr. Nemesis???? :mistrust:
It's James Bradley. Apparently he was Horton's partner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Nemesis
The Kiai
11-18-2009, 07:33 PM
It's James Bradley. Apparently he was Horton's partner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Nemesis
Oooohhhhhh...
Fake Pat
11-18-2009, 08:26 PM
I didn't know Warren Ellis was going to continue his run on AXM after the Jimenez arc. I thought he was just doing 12 issues. I haven't been in love with his run, so depending on who draws it depends if I stick around.
I thought I had heard 4 arcs with different big-name artists, a la Millar's deal with Ultimate Avengers.
Foggy's Pal
11-19-2009, 03:18 AM
I thought I had heard 4 arcs with different big-name artists, a la Millar's deal with Ultimate Avengers.
That's good news; I'm enjoying Ellis' run. Ghost Box was pretty good, and the current arc is quite a bit more fun.
Matthew Brown
11-19-2009, 06:53 AM
Seriously? That book was terrible.
Oh god, if that's really empirical fact I might need to see a doctor. Because I found the characterizations delightful, the art great as always with Kirk, and the first issue a pretty decent set up to the return of one of my favorite characters. But obviously I'm wrong and suffering some sort of brain degeneration problem...
Thank you, Thwip. You may have saved my life.
joeAR
11-19-2009, 07:11 AM
He invented the original Human Torch. Beast recruited him as part of his super science team.
He's one of my favorite characters in the book. He's what if Warren Ellis was an X-Character.
Foggy's Pal
11-20-2009, 07:48 AM
As I've said before, I'm not a long time reader of X-Men. My favorite X book is X-Factor. I've read it since the beginnning of PAD's run. It seems to me to be the friendliest of the books because it is self contained for the most part. I read the Messiah Complex which was OK, nothing mind blowing. Since then I've read X-Men Legacy and have enjoyed it, Astonishing which is decent, and X-Factor. Recently I've picked up some back issues of Uncanny-Utopia and the few issues that have followed. I've also been reading the Necrosha crossover. Typically, I don't like to read books that crossover all the time, but I wanted to give the X verse a try. My impressions so far are that the writers feel it is important to throw every character at their disposal in the books, and that the books must be explosive. (outside of X-Factor and Astonishing). I can follow the stories but have to look characters up from time to time. the stories also seem to lack character driven stories. Am I reading these correctly? How do you established X folks feel about the books? I'm definitely going to read through 2nd coming, but I just want some opinions on the state of the X-books with their current writers.
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